As someone who plays with siblings. We were all disappointed that we could not use the new characters and the characters we didn’t already have unlocked. We played it for a good minute even after the game closed down since local was available. We had everything unlocked, emotes, skins all the characters at that time. It was fun and amazing. I really hope they go back to how it was for local.
@@oddgoblin1400 not everyone played the "beta" were it was easier to get characters, new people literally only get shaggy as a permanent and what ever character is on weekly rotating temporarily
@@oddgoblin1400be mindful of people who say that. They could actually be dumb enough to think that having everything in the beta when the server shut down counts as them "Owning" them
A dev has addressed that they’re working on most of these things, but they didn’t talk about the features that are missing, to me this is really important. Not seeing any stats after a game in 2v2s just makes me feel really empty and idk how good I really did
Shit is so ass they removed everything for no fucking reason I can t see my place in global stats and they fucked up the character progresion and many other things
5:05 I thank god I saved all 30 of my character tickets, and after watching this ? I’ll be saving them UNTIL a character I REALLY want is released and I’ll spend 1 ticket to get them
People aren't hating for no reason, they removed features and created a worse version of the beta, as if that was possible. I'm sorry it's true. But Player First Games have no one but themselves to blame at this point.
They removed so many things from the game it's so weird... Also, who tf asked for WB to change the speed of the game?? Am I wrong for thinking nobody asked for that type of shit???
Regardless of the speed changes (which I actually like): Why are post-game stats gone? Why can’t I edit my controls when in the lab? Why can’t people try characters before they buy them? Why no ranked or roadmap for future ranked? Why is the UI clunky and often laggy? Those are just the ones off the top of my head. Idek how it’s possible to spend a year and remove features like that, which everyone enjoyed.
I agree they removed a good amount of features for no reason at all the leaderboards, character rewards, perks, etc. but you’re hating a lil too much the beta was fantastic and that’s why it gained so my traction I really feel like they’ll listen to the community and fix the things we want although I think the game speed is in a good spot there’s time to react and counter play now it’s not all just rundown and spam anymore people hate things that take skill lol
I think Void wasn’t really saying they were complaining for no reason, though. In fact he agreed with a lot of the complaints as far as Grindy unlocks and removed features went. The real frustration seemed to be with people calling the gameplay itself garbage just because it’s slower.
@@snowsneh9427 which move breaks armour for batman? Edit: there's a perc but it needs me to fully charge my attacks which is not worth it cause I get hit before I can do it
@@amekgomo5250 but I can say this wonder woman is dangerous, the Lasso pulling you in while she’s hitting you with the shield and shielded Or bananas, guards rush down, breaking through a lot
They've removed some things that make no sense, like being able to try out characters before purchasing them, and also how are locals gonna work?? The characters are all locked..
So agree that it’s way too hard to unlock characters. They’re way too stingy with the currency that I’ve only been able to unlock one additional character despite having played a few hours a day since release
@@j0eyhz620you can’t just use that argument if tons of gameplay is locked behind currency or grinding for insane amounts of time. Fortnite is free to play but everything essential to the game is available outside of cosmetics. If you didn’t play the beta, you can basically get 1 character then have to grind for months if you don’t spend money.
Yea characters cost 3k fight currency, then you do rift missions that give you literally 10 currency, fucking 10. If you complete an entire rift you could get up to maybe 150 and that’s gonna take an hour or 2 of your time. After that you can’t even do many rifts anyway. Battle pass is gonna take months because of how slow the progression is even though there are slightly better rewards.
I love how you stated that you love NASB 1. Personally that game wasn't fun for me, but you thought it was fun and having to enjoy games while being your true self as a content creator is really great message. I love Multiversus Beta and played it even when it was dying with like only 300-400 people left on it and played it until they shut it down. While the new release of Multiversus still has those issues. I'm still enjoying it right now and I'm not afraid to say that MVS is one of my favorite fighting games
A lot of the issues for me are that stuff just became objectively worse between the open beta and the full release. Input buffer(i have a theory for why they did this but still), endgame stats, leaderboard, testing/using all characters locally, and character colors.
I'm shocked at how infrequent the input buffer issue is brought up. I can deal with the game being slower, but it also feels clunky, which I think just isn't very fun to work around.
The fact I can’t watch 4 bots duke it out is crazy. One human has to be playing for some dumb odd reason in local play and custom games. We don’t even have FFA online
Yeah idk the homepage feel more easy for me and wheres “ the lab” option😢, now the home page is same like battle royal game, idk the full release on felt pretty cheap looking
i’m just confused on why they got rid of the ko and damage screen, the top leaderboard screen so i you can see where you rank, and other small features like that
Remember that they moved the game to a whole new engine, so missing features aren't things they took out, they just didn't put back in for some reason. Could be time, not thinking it's that important, or just forgetting
I like the game. It has room for improvement, the combat feels great, I like the meter limiting dodge spam. Game is a bit predatory on micro-transactions and could do with a bit more grindable stuff from just playing fights, but overall combat feels really great.
A few things I want to add to this The rift minigame is pretty terrible 2v2 needs to allow for clinch co-op The cosmetic requirements for rift missions are a terrible idea Could use some bug fixes I’ve seen both involve models and characters getting locked into smear frames and can’t do anything
@@jmurray1110 needing the graphic t bugs me to no end that I feel I HAVE to spend my fighter currency on Velma. That's assuming those graphic nodes aren't also asking for non velma characters to get more stars... extremely predatory corpo microtransactions.
Ive noticed such a hostility when it comes to platform fighters, which gets worse if it isnt smash bros almost like these expectations are set above a standard that every game must follow
I have noticed this too. I don’t typically like boiling down entire community opinions like that but I thinks it’s clearly observable right now. Between Melee’s movement and tech depth being so beloved and Ultimate being packed to the brim with content and 90 characters, I don’t think either side of the community will ever really be satisfied with other platform fighters to the fullest. Thats why Rivals was smart enough to carve out their own niche. I hope MVS is smart enough to do the same while still listening to important feedback, because tbh I feel like trying to appease the “smash community” is a non-starter right now.
Multiverses literally got worse ppl get disconnected mid game then u have trash hitboxes can’t practice with locked characters and they removed attack decay for no reason tired of watching shaggy mains spam the same kick over and over
@@piplonf8591the first thing I completely understand but the second complaint just sounds like your hate getting your butt kicked because you’re losing
would like to see some changes to how the game rewards you. The rift mode is very tedious and rewards you with very little (right now after the easy mode just a node in the Agent Smith roadmap if you complete an entire level's difficulty), I'm hoping for there to be more character gems you can get as you ramp up the difficulty. I don't like that there are those button-gems that are exclusive to singleplayer yet can still be bought/upgraded for real money, it's basically like having some spirits in Smash Ult. that can be upgraded with real money. Would also like the training mode to work a bit better (like in the beta), right now it feels clunky when you want to change settings. I like that you can change characters right there, but even the smallest changes requires the stage to reload, sometimes with weird inconsistencies. In the same vein, would like to try out characters even just for a bit, it was a great feature in the beta that I'd like to see again, but I guess since it was a beta they might have just had it for beta sake. The Item Shop is the biggest blunder though for me, I don't like their pathetic daily deals section for things I already have unlocked from the beta, at least make them things I might actually want to buy like character discounts or skin discounts. The bundles feel overpriced, but when stacking it up against games like fortnite it's pretty comparable. There are discounts if you have stuff in the bundles, but I can't tell if that works out like a better deal or not. I like that I can buy any skin when I want, but you can't see that in the shop, just in the fighter select screen. New fighters are priced weird too, Joker is double everyone else in fighter points but with gems it's only 250 more, incentivizing using real money on him. Despite all of this AND the unmentioned connectivity issues I've experienced, I'm having tons of fun playing this game again. I feel like it's more fun than the beta was, though I only played the beta for about 2 months before falling behind on everything and dropping the game for others. I want to continue following the game, but that depends on how the team goes about updating and adding more to the game.
The skins I bought in the beta are gone. At this point they got it. Not even gonna try and get that sorted out. Edit: it’s been almost two weeks now. Sony said they couldn’t help. Pfg never got back to me. I think they robbed me lmfao
I never comment on things, however I think the game feels pretty good. One thing I didn’t like about MVS beta was everyone just dodge jumping everywhere with invincibility. I love the new meter system and how it demands people to pay attention to what happening rather than just spamming your best attacks. Now I will say the speed was jolting to me when I first launched and it took me a day to adjust and I play 200 hours of the beta.
I feel like the dodging was necessary since there are so many bullshit moves like Bugs rocket/safe, Shaggy side b, Velma speech bubbles, etc. With the movement nerfed you can play Banana Guard and spam side b to win tournaments
You can't play MultiVersus with keyboard only. Inputting a neutral special sometimes results in a bug where the dodge button ("L" on the keyboard), once pressed, not only does a different move/attack but also makes your character being controlled by a bot so you got no control over your character anymore. In this case so severe, your character just jumps off the map because of this bug. It makes the game literally unplayable for keyboard players at this point. Either you stop using neutral attacks or dodge with "shift" or "middle mouse click" which obviously shouldn't be a solution. (also not sure if this would prevent the bug from happening, so, idk.) I created a new Profile in my keyboard software (Wootility) to rebind my keyboard inputs into controller ones so I can play the game without issues. Yes I reinstalled the game. I even reset my whole pc. I tried changing some keybindings. Friends of mine experience the same "bot taking over your controls, dodge not working" bug as well. Please fix! :c
MVS is genuinely fun but that and goodwill from the beta are the only things keeping it in good graces right now. This release is objectively backwards from the beta from the UI, leaderboards, stats tracked, mastery rewards, monetization etc. I feel you on wanting to just enjoy the game but in a year following the disastrous flop that was Suicide Squad it’s REALLY hard to not feel like MultiVersus isn’t here to immediately foot the 200 million dollar bill for Warner Bros.
Apparently saying “Yes this game has problems that I hope get resolved, but I still enjoy my time with the game” makes you a “paid shill” or “apologist”.
@@lihzzahrdspeed6631 1000%! Ive voiced my concerns and hope that it gets updated to be better. Meanwhile, others are already saying the games dead when it hasn’t even been a week.
The Beyblade community was the same way. Always wanting to get negative. Now it died out. I'm saying this as a Beytuber with almost 12k subs on another account. People just wanted me to hate hate hate but I didn't. I just wanted to play with toys.
Ive been playing the game and I found myself liking it more than the beta! It feels less reliant on spamming dodges and making smarter choices. Game is also better to spectate for 2v2. There totally are things to critique the game on like features, bugs and progression. The gameplay is sick and I hope PFG gives people time to get used to the changes before they make it like beta again.
I’ve been playing with my cousin almost the entire year before release, and it was so nice and fun to be able to play everyone. Now we have to unlock characters to use them in local? I don’t think player first games realizes that was a stupid mistake, I learned about each character and who I wanted to unlock through the lab gameplay. Idk how but they made the game worse…
Dude, I can't even express how much I appreciate what you had to say. I went on Reddit and Twitter to see if everyone else was enjoying the game as much as I was, and I was met with such an overwhelming force of negativity that it killed my excitement a little bit. I was ecstatic for the future of the game, but with the general reaction I've seen, it seems like the playerbase is going to die out quicker than the Beta did. I fully acknowledge the game has its issues, but what game doesn't? And what happened to having a bit of patience? I'm confident that the devs are trying their absolute best, why not give it a few weeks to allow them to get settled in and fix some of the more prominent issues? All in all, I'm loving the game. The leaked characters (especially *him*) have me so hyped for the future, and I am glad to see someone else willing to speak out and say they're actually enjoying the game, too!
Look at what the devs promised in Season 2, and how they botched the trajectory of this game completely. It's no wonder people are very disappointed with all the changes, when it's an inferior version of a Beta. There is NO excuse for that. Sorry that people were genuinely let down in more ways than they imagined.
@@grdfhrghrggrtwqqu Tony addressed why the game fell off so hard in a recent interview, the main reason being that their team was just too small to handle the release schedule they were trying to maintain. As far as the changes, I think that *most* of the changes are actually great. The speed is too slow, but it's far better than the pure chaos that the beta was. And in regards to this being an "inferior" version of the beta, that is completely your opinion. I personally am having a great time, as much or even more than I did in the beta. I hate that people are let down, but I honestly think that if we just give the devs a little time, they will fix most of what people are unhappy with. Just my opinion, but going off of Tony and the team's constant presence on Twitter trying to help out any folks who are running into bugs, I do believe they are listening and care about what we all think.
Hey Void! Glad you are enjoying the game. In the hbox video he assumed you couldn’t speak truth on the game because of a contract. He was corrected in the video.
I feel you on what you said on the intro. I get criticizing the game but sometimes it feels like people aren't saying bad things about the game because they want it to improve but instead because they want to hate on it and make others agree that it is bad
People are upset for good reason. No matter what way people phrase it, this is not the same game we played in beta and spent money on and for alot of us it just sucks.
The worst part is I had over 8,000 gold. Could have spent to get 2-4 fighters. They lied & said everything will carry over. They stole it all from me & gave me a stupid player card for it.🤬
My main disappointment is how weak the combo game is now. I'm totally fine with the game speed being lowered, but the fact that we went from 8+ moves in an optimal combo to 3-4 tops feels pretty bad.
Void, I appreciate you man. I really like the game too! And I'm really grateful to you for being honest. I'm hyped for the future of the game, and hope to see you continue to enjoy it dude.
I don't think its too slow at all. Feels way better than how it was before. My biggest dislike is that even when I turn character outlines off, the enemy still has a red hue over the entire character. It's like I'm fighting a red blob
I’m on ps5, for me 1v1 is pretty solid. But 2v2 and rifts with my friend is pretty much unplayable. Nearly every game desynchs or sometimes my game or his game (he plays on series x) will crash.
idk i feel like "room to improve" is a bit of an understatement, theres so much about this game rn thats not only worse then the beta but are just super scummy and anti consumer, not being able test characters in training mode is super scummy in every way possible and it feels way harder to actually earn characters without paying up, this on top of the game functioning significantly worse then it did in the beta and being unplayable on xbox, i understand you wanna be positive but there's so much wrong with the state of the game that goes beyond a rough launch i feel like your under selling it
the game might be very grindy, however so might be other games i will probably take league as an example to multiversus. not only is it a grind to unlock characters in league but u also can pay up for characters in the game so i dont get ur point about the "grindy" characters
My problem was that short hops are gone the camera so zoomed in too much and some rework moves got changed like Velma yelling into the mic from full screen and her normals seemd slow.
I definitely understand how your feeling, this community feeling was very apparent in Brawlhalla where people loved to complain about BMG yet would still continue playing because they like they game. I understand being passionate but I also think there should be positivity and positive reinforcement
6000 for joker is actually a joke in street fighter 6 they have a currency called rental tickets where you can use thoes to try out characters they let you hop in training with them And casual mode for a whole hour
I spent $10 to get the Battle Pass the day the game came out so that I could play with Jason Voorhees and grind up towards the Uber Jason skin. Last night, I finished all my weekly and daily missions, and afterwards I literally could not gain any more experience to progress in the Battle Pass. The game does not just give Battle Pass experience for playing it!
You should be able to buy fighter currency and it should be dirt cheap. Either that or it should be able to be earned much faster. Honestly, that is my only problem with the monetization structure.
If it’s too fast paced people will complain because they can’t compete with better players. If it’s too slow people will complain because newer players have an easier time fighting them. You can’t win
I'm very excited to try the game once they reintroduce the buffer option, which they said the removal of it was accidental. I LOVE multiversus, and I want desperately for it to stick around
Appreciate your authenticity!! Stay true to you! Negative click baiting may get engagement fast but it doesn't create longevity nor builds a loyal community. Keep doing you!! 🙌🏾
One thing i want for this game is a stock mode for FFA/2vs2 it kinda sucks that its a score system for that mode in custom rooms where whoever gets that amount of points when which makes games go by so quick
I don't understand why some people have this and others don't. I play at least 2 hours of PVP a day and I've only been kicked from one match. I hope your issues get resolved.
not a defense of removed features but an explanation. the game was rebuilt in unreal 5. that means alot had to be re-added and ported over. probably why the menu is different and imo worse. the leaderboards, and the removal of locked characters not being unlocked in the lab thing. its due to this rebuild of the engine change. and when you have to rebuild everything it can very much slip up. especially smaller things. im enjoying multiversus but hope they fix some stuff. i think the speed is fine its just that moves feel sticky and i hate how it lines up your inputs sometimes. but i hope for improvement!
Ive been playing since day one of the beta and Im enjoying the new game a ton but I understand why people would be upset and I dont like why theres no damage count and rank with character
Mvs is pretty much unplayable for xbox. Tons of stuttering, frames dropping and disconnects online. Even playing solo missions is rough. Hope the devs patch it soon
Glad someone pointed this out. Especially that one stupid moving lab map that just lags the whole game for everyone and drops the frames. The game is wayy worse than it was in the beta even with the trash netcode
You are my favorite multiversus content creator and player and I love hearing your opinions and you takes on the game. I truly do wish people would give this game more of a chance it just seems like everyone is shitting on it so fast and they haven’t played it and figured anything out yet
icl i had the same opinion about the speed but once you start playing and get used to it it feels normal and it feels like if the game were to speed up it would feel too fast
I hope the devs are smart and ignore the sweaty players and make the game better for casuals. A big casual player base can create a new competitive scene eventually instead of trying to please the competitive scene that already exists for platform fighters. Plus, this business model they are going for won't work with a small sweaty player base at all, they really need tons of casuals to support the game. Trying to please everyone will kill the game again.
@@EliteGrimm Exactly, but Tony feels a bit shaky. I hope they don't rush some features for the competitive scene like end game stats. That feature is totally non-casual, it is stuff that casuals hate, they don't want to be blamed for losses and feel like crap after matches with 0 damage. The end game stats should be visible only on ranked matches, not on casuals.
NASB1 was just ridiculously mashy. Every character was short-hop and spam one broken move (the last nairbender, mikey dair, etc) Multiversus is horribly slow and floaty. They're both on the extreme ends and bad because of it.
I kinda agree. But I do think Nasb 2 dying so soon when it was a better game then the first is sad to see. Hopefully it at least sold well so third time can maybe be the charm
@@SionReaver I dont think theres gonna be a 3rd time, the problem was after nasb1 and the issues on launch its name was just dragged through the mud and there simply just no one talking about the game so no new people are gonna play it. The entire game series is just not gonna work out
Game is not slow. You haven't adapted. Stop trying to move like the old game with dodge jump. Spend as little time airborne and you will see your speed
@@SionReaveryeah pissed me off NASB2 just as fast if not faster. Really was hyped. Seems like people lose interest whenevr there isn’t a ton of content monthly. They’re spoiled.
Honestly gameplay aside, my main gripe with this game is that it's a live service game with hundreds of micro transactions. We love to complain about any other game that does stuff like this like redfall or Kill the Justice League, but for some reason it's okay when multiversus does it. I understand it's free to play, but if all of this is at the cost of it being free, I'd rather the game just be 20-40 dollars or something.
I really love this damn game, and seeing this amount of negativity really damn hurt me. Was speed actually that important? The slower speed feels so much better.
@@300apes I can understand why people are upset about the other stuff, but I don’t understand the anger over speed. Beta was just a large dodge and speed fest that made combat pretty frustrating
Fast paced combat was an appealing concept to a lot of people especially in comp on beta. Imagine how many people would stop playing call of duty if it was literally 3x slow speed. The games the same, just a lot mechanics and mind games go out the window.
@@tylersweeney9749 it definitely wasn’t that big of a slowdown. But idk if you watch mfs tournaments but the dodge spam was insane. Maybe they can revert it to make everyone happy but it just doesn’t look good when watching your or other people gameplay back. It’s looks so spammy and mashy vs actual skill
No ones talking about local all the characters are locked whilst in the open beta it was free this is a shame I was so happy fir multuversus be somehow they got worse
I really enjoy the game. The speed is not a problem for me at all, I think the input delay is more of a problem. The speed in which your attacks come out is noticeable, but the actual speed that a character moves is completely fine and I think people are getting them mixed up I also do agree that the fighter currency earned from PVP should be higher, but I think the reason it’s low is that so people try the PVE mode, which is loaded with it. It’s a fun mode and I feel people aren’t giving it a fair shot
The game speed isn’t as bad as people are making it seem there are some characters that are harder to use than other but they just want to complain I’m gonna play regardless just cause I love Warner brother studios properties
2:39 Absolutely! This doesn't only happen with platform fighters but in all gaming. There's this tendency for people to judge/speak about things that they've never played or cared from the start and is getting annoying. So much unwanted negativity everywhere that maybe for you or for me wont matter in the longrun but there is people out there that feel scared to say they like or enjoy a game because there's a "negative" buzz around it and that buzz is mostly BS. I always say "Too many people judge, too little people play". It happened to me with the recent Hellblade 2 that i adore and is now happening with Multiversus which i'm having a blast.
I think he's mainly saying he feels ostracized for enjoying the game while everyone and their mother is criticizing and hating it. Tbh pfg did it to themselves
The fact this community is nit picking a FREE game to this degree is telling to the quality of those individuals. AAA game companies that demand a box price and a monthly service fee. Hey I'm right there with you. Or the games thst let you pay to rent the game but never own. Multiversus as it is now. Is a GOOD GAME. appreciate the free good game.
I find that is great to hear you put your foot down and be transparent on what you are feeling about the game. I love MVS, and i really want the game to succeed, but people shouldn't feel attacked because of this, nor should MVS lovers attack you because you don't stay. If the game doesn't improve, is totally understandable if you don't feel like playing it anymore, but for the mean time, at least lets have some fun and leave the devs to cook, if they do of course. And lets hope they do.
Honestly I think Multiversus has the most toxic casual player base I've ever seen. They're constantly crying like children over the dumbest stuff and confidentiality talking about stuff they have no idea about. The subreddit is a cesspool
Look at Season 2. The devs shot themselves in the foot on communication front big time, and let a lot of people down. People aren't outraged for no reason or because they want to, but because they have no choice since they essentially have to. The Devs will have to listen or find out if their game holds water the hard way. It doesn't get any more simple than that.
Nothing is immune from criticize. Acting like a million dollar company's heavily monetized live service game can do no wrong and has no flaws does nothing to inprove the very flawed game.
Void just doesnt like being negative or say bad things about games/characters or balance but that doesnt mean the problems dont exist we should ignore them. If you want the game to last these issues must be addressed or the game will die
Nah, what hbox said is that hes not sure you and nakat are able to voice your actual opinions because of how closely invovled youve been with the studio. Which, hes not wrong, and most of the time creators are bound to some sort of contract where they can only say certain things. Heck, not that long ago marvel rivals studio had a written agreement saying that anyone who played the alpha couldnt say or imply anything negative about it. So i dont think its worth getting worked up over that.
I'm convinced that the real reason people are complaining about Multiversus' speed is because they have nothing better to do. It's a lot of fun as it is (although I've never been a huge fan of free-to-play-with-in-game-purchases games) and if people are gonna keep complaining about it, they can just quit playing. I never played Beta, so maybe I'm wrong, but I still think people need to stop complaining about it.
So the game is noticeably slower when compared with the beta. The game isn't inherently 'slow' now, just slower. The game is fine as it is and it just will take time to adjust to, including the Dodge meter which slows down movement as well, since Dodge jumping was a standard in the beta.
No the game is just slower, hitstop is insanely high where, especially in 2s, you get git and it feels like your charachter is frozen for over a second. Movement feels choppy and the game being slow wouldnt that big of an issue if charachters werent so fucking floaty
Nothing better to do? Sure we do! It’s called playing a better game than this crap! Rather go back to NASB2 then play this turtle game. The beta was ALREADY slow to begin with and they make it even slower? You realize it’s slower than smash brawl right? Which is mind boggling ….. it’s boring. You get rewarded for having slow reaction time. Especially characters like Jason and iron giant. You can see their moves coming a mile away and easily dodge them or beat them with your faster frame moves…. That’s not balanced
@@Hinokami777 I dropped it after like an hour. Rivals of Aether 2 comes out this year and that developer actually cares about making a good platform fighter, not just a smash clone.
This game is AMAZING! Duos gives the vibe of if one person played Nana and another played Popo. Later on in time, the coop combos are gonna be unREAL! P.S. people just want something to whine about. They dont remember the days you had to go to someone's house to have someone to play against. That was TRULY unfortunate
What I think they should do is release an “all fighters pack” similar to what Bh does. Pay one set price (WB will probably make it expensive) to get all the characters and future characters. Sure we can grind but it’s really tedious to do so.
The currency model, menus, and lack of communication about most features being gone didn't really set this game up for success. I like the gameplay, just everything else about the game got worse for no good reason. We had a good menu, good training mode, good ways to earn characters and cosmetics. Now, its fucking utter shit, and you can't tell me they didn't know what people liked. Don't care if it was WB exec's making the decision or not, it feels like a mobile game with how convoluted the menus are and how bad earning characters is.
Love MVS but I'm curious as to some of the decisions made during development.. • The UE4 to UE5 change in order to accommodate Netcode? • UE4 to UE5 change for graphically fidelity? • What's done is done, just thinking that maybe if PFG stuck to UE4 we would have more progress into MVS' development instead of rebuilding it on UE5..
I love the game right now. I think the camera should back up a little bit. I love the speed! I definitely do miss the damage and KO’s on the end screen. It’s honestly so cool
Speed the game up like 20% and it’s fine. But the problem is there are tons of other issues. It’s got SO many issues beyond just the speed. VOID, this is specifically to you. The issue isn’t that it’s not okay to talk about liking the game, but this shit is gonna die if they DONT fix the issues. Thats the problem. And I love this game so it would suck for it to die.
I honestly am a lot more into this than I thought I would be after the beta. It feels a lot better to play than it looks. The main issues I have are just that its maybe a bit too grindy and of course the connection issues rn, but those may end up being changed down the line.
@@ixojoh1445imo unlocking characters takes way too long. you really can only unlock them after every 5 levels. once you get to 15 it takes like an hour to get to 16, now add that to 20. There needs to be way more ways unlocking characters than non stop grinding online
I love how much you love nasb 1. As a nasb player, I'm so happy that you say you love it too. What was different with nasb 2 that you don't like it as much?
It’s fun if you turn your brain off and play your dailies and laugh at the cartoon characters beating the life out of each other. If you take it any more seriously than that, yeah it’s stupid and mashy. I could care less about playing this in any competitive sense, though, so I’m good. Also it was super uncool of Hbox to put words in your mouth like that
Tbh, and I could be wrong but it could be some things are on hold due to not releasing everything at once. Like the beta didn't immediately release with leaderboard and ranked mode. Maybe that will come later along with stats, etc
Unfortunately, I didn't have a lot of characters that I had in the beta, so that sucks, but I'm still having a tone of fun. They should really have all the characters unlocked in local play though.
unlock characters on local play, speed up the game a bit, add end-of-game stats back, bring back character leaderboard rankings... lots of small stuff that they could pull back from the beta without completely reversing direction that'd make this game infinitely better.
1:58 THIS! CANT VOID JUST LIKE A GAME FOR JUST FOR THE SAKE OF LIKING THE GAME?! I even commented on this on his vid that you didnt have early access like the other people like NAKAT and you those were your genuine thoughts
IDK if morty is bugged or if he is meant to be this strong he is nuts, but also very bugged especially when splitting the nades sometimes it splits and it goes flying off the map or it just does not split
Not having unlocked characters on local play is going to fuck local tournaments.
I hate that I can’t fuck around with characters with my friends, I hate that I have to grind just to have fun with friends
Training was one thing but local is insane
You can do both of those. Go into training and you can use any character you want. And local play is also there.
They have confirmed they are going to be fixing this
I unlocked all characters in beta, I'm o ly missing joker for now
As someone who plays with siblings. We were all disappointed that we could not use the new characters and the characters we didn’t already have unlocked. We played it for a good minute even after the game closed down since local was available. We had everything unlocked, emotes, skins all the characters at that time. It was fun and amazing. I really hope they go back to how it was for local.
I'm confused all the characters I had unlocked are still unlocked
@@oddgoblin1400 not everyone played the "beta" were it was easier to get characters, new people literally only get shaggy as a permanent and what ever character is on weekly rotating temporarily
@@idkyoua I thought they said they played during the beta and had everything unlocked, but don't have everything unlocked now.
point is u cant use locked characters in local@@oddgoblin1400
@@oddgoblin1400be mindful of people who say that. They could actually be dumb enough to think that having everything in the beta when the server shut down counts as them "Owning" them
A dev has addressed that they’re working on most of these things, but they didn’t talk about the features that are missing, to me this is really important. Not seeing any stats after a game in 2v2s just makes me feel really empty and idk how good I really did
Where you see this?
it was not a dev bruh it was a reddit mod
Shit is so ass they removed everything for no fucking reason I can t see my place in global stats and they fucked up the character progresion and many other things
Yea ik
@McPoof making alot of assumptions there lmao
5:05 I thank god I saved all 30 of my character tickets, and after watching this ? I’ll be saving them UNTIL a character I REALLY want is released and I’ll spend 1 ticket to get them
Ah, from the Founder’s Pack back in the beta? Big brain move. I envy you 😂
👑 Your patience is godly lol
Bro, run back my 1v1 lol ain’t no way we played 30 games and I only got one f*cking stock, f*ck Banana Guard man 😂
Big brain indeed. Grind the current ones, then spend on new/upcoming ones you like.
They make you spend tickets before you spend fighter currency
People aren't hating for no reason, they removed features and created a worse version of the beta, as if that was possible. I'm sorry it's true. But Player First Games have no one but themselves to blame at this point.
They removed so many things from the game it's so weird... Also, who tf asked for WB to change the speed of the game?? Am I wrong for thinking nobody asked for that type of shit???
Regardless of the speed changes (which I actually like):
Why are post-game stats gone? Why can’t I edit my controls when in the lab?
Why can’t people try characters before they buy them?
Why no ranked or roadmap for future ranked?
Why is the UI clunky and often laggy?
Those are just the ones off the top of my head. Idek how it’s possible to spend a year and remove features like that, which everyone enjoyed.
@@Tiphou it was a little to hectic before it didn't reward playing smart and making right choices.
I agree they removed a good amount of features for no reason at all the leaderboards, character rewards, perks, etc. but you’re hating a lil too much the beta was fantastic and that’s why it gained so my traction I really feel like they’ll listen to the community and fix the things we want although I think the game speed is in a good spot there’s time to react and counter play now it’s not all just rundown and spam anymore people hate things that take skill lol
I think Void wasn’t really saying they were complaining for no reason, though. In fact he agreed with a lot of the complaints as far as Grindy unlocks and removed features went. The real frustration seemed to be with people calling the gameplay itself garbage just because it’s slower.
Whats lacking:
Leaderboards
Easier way to gain currencies and unlock characters
Post game stats
NERF SHEILDS or give us more options to handle them
two of those are already in the game with the shields and Rifts the
for shields just use your armor break move
@@snowsneh9427 which move breaks armour for batman?
Edit: there's a perc but it needs me to fully charge my attacks which is not worth it cause I get hit before I can do it
@@amekgomo5250 sounds like a skill issue because I’ll be holding that up hit waiting landed seven times out of 10
@@amekgomo5250 but I can say this wonder woman is dangerous, the Lasso pulling you in while she’s hitting you with the shield and shielded Or bananas, guards rush down, breaking through a lot
Camera zoom options would be good
Agreed. Give people an option to change how far it goes out
They've removed some things that make no sense, like being able to try out characters before purchasing them, and also how are locals gonna work?? The characters are all locked..
I want the option to be able to watch 4 bots fight eachother too. That being missing is so weird. Every other platform fighter has it
It’s a bug, stated to be fixed in the next patch
So agree that it’s way too hard to unlock characters. They’re way too stingy with the currency that I’ve only been able to unlock one additional character despite having played a few hours a day since release
It’s free to play
it is free to play , but it is way too grindy just to unlock a character rn @@j0eyhz620
You get 5 to 10 currency when you get a toast. Soo try farming with co op ig?
@@j0eyhz620you can’t just use that argument if tons of gameplay is locked behind currency or grinding for insane amounts of time. Fortnite is free to play but everything essential to the game is available outside of cosmetics. If you didn’t play the beta, you can basically get 1 character then have to grind for months if you don’t spend money.
Yea characters cost 3k fight currency, then you do rift missions that give you literally 10 currency, fucking 10. If you complete an entire rift you could get up to maybe 150 and that’s gonna take an hour or 2 of your time. After that you can’t even do many rifts anyway. Battle pass is gonna take months because of how slow the progression is even though there are slightly better rewards.
I love how you stated that you love NASB 1. Personally that game wasn't fun for me, but you thought it was fun and having to enjoy games while being your true self as a content creator is really great message.
I love Multiversus Beta and played it even when it was dying with like only 300-400 people left on it and played it until they shut it down. While the new release of Multiversus still has those issues. I'm still enjoying it right now and I'm not afraid to say that MVS is one of my favorite fighting games
Faxts
What's NASB 1
@@AteIes acronym for Nickeleodon all star brawl 1
literally how i feel about this rn- i love all of NASB 1, NASB 2 and Multiversus so much ❤❤❤
I love the game right now and I hate all "brawl" genre games. The only other brawl I played was when I was a kid on the Wii. Ssbb
I'm starting to think they weren't actually ready to release the game yet but became worried that fans were growing impatient
Being able to use all the characters in training mode and also having some sort of character trial token like in SF6 is definitely a must have
A lot of the issues for me are that stuff just became objectively worse between the open beta and the full release.
Input buffer(i have a theory for why they did this but still), endgame stats, leaderboard, testing/using all characters locally, and character colors.
I'm shocked at how infrequent the input buffer issue is brought up. I can deal with the game being slower, but it also feels clunky, which I think just isn't very fun to work around.
The fact I can’t watch 4 bots duke it out is crazy. One human has to be playing for some dumb odd reason in local play and custom games. We don’t even have FFA online
Yeah idk the homepage feel more easy for me and wheres “ the lab” option😢, now the home page is same like battle royal game, idk the full release on felt pretty cheap looking
i’m just confused on why they got rid of the ko and damage screen, the top leaderboard screen so i you can see where you rank, and other small features like that
Remember that they moved the game to a whole new engine, so missing features aren't things they took out, they just didn't put back in for some reason. Could be time, not thinking it's that important, or just forgetting
I like the game. It has room for improvement, the combat feels great, I like the meter limiting dodge spam. Game is a bit predatory on micro-transactions and could do with a bit more grindable stuff from just playing fights, but overall combat feels really great.
WB games usually have bad micros.
No fr the game is really good everyone just hopping on the trend to hate
A few things I want to add to this
The rift minigame is pretty terrible
2v2 needs to allow for clinch co-op
The cosmetic requirements for rift missions are a terrible idea
Could use some bug fixes I’ve seen both involve models and characters getting locked into smear frames and can’t do anything
@@jmurray1110 needing the graphic t bugs me to no end that I feel I HAVE to spend my fighter currency on Velma. That's assuming those graphic nodes aren't also asking for non velma characters to get more stars... extremely predatory corpo microtransactions.
Well it's gonna have micro-transactions it a free game. But it's better if they don't overdue it
Ive noticed such a hostility when it comes to platform fighters, which gets worse if it isnt smash bros
almost like these expectations are set above a standard that every game must follow
I have noticed this too. I don’t typically like boiling down entire community opinions like that but I thinks it’s clearly observable right now. Between Melee’s movement and tech depth being so beloved and Ultimate being packed to the brim with content and 90 characters, I don’t think either side of the community will ever really be satisfied with other platform fighters to the fullest. Thats why Rivals was smart enough to carve out their own niche. I hope MVS is smart enough to do the same while still listening to important feedback, because tbh I feel like trying to appease the “smash community” is a non-starter right now.
I mean I feel like coming back from a 1 year delisting from your beta and coming back worse is reasonable to be mad at
@@dongledude9448nobody said anything about the criticism being unreasonable. Just that smash players are more prone to criticism than most
Multiverses literally got worse ppl get disconnected mid game then u have trash hitboxes can’t practice with locked characters and they removed attack decay for no reason tired of watching shaggy mains spam the same kick over and over
@@piplonf8591the first thing I completely understand but the second complaint just sounds like your hate getting your butt kicked because you’re losing
would like to see some changes to how the game rewards you. The rift mode is very tedious and rewards you with very little (right now after the easy mode just a node in the Agent Smith roadmap if you complete an entire level's difficulty), I'm hoping for there to be more character gems you can get as you ramp up the difficulty. I don't like that there are those button-gems that are exclusive to singleplayer yet can still be bought/upgraded for real money, it's basically like having some spirits in Smash Ult. that can be upgraded with real money.
Would also like the training mode to work a bit better (like in the beta), right now it feels clunky when you want to change settings. I like that you can change characters right there, but even the smallest changes requires the stage to reload, sometimes with weird inconsistencies. In the same vein, would like to try out characters even just for a bit, it was a great feature in the beta that I'd like to see again, but I guess since it was a beta they might have just had it for beta sake.
The Item Shop is the biggest blunder though for me, I don't like their pathetic daily deals section for things I already have unlocked from the beta, at least make them things I might actually want to buy like character discounts or skin discounts. The bundles feel overpriced, but when stacking it up against games like fortnite it's pretty comparable. There are discounts if you have stuff in the bundles, but I can't tell if that works out like a better deal or not. I like that I can buy any skin when I want, but you can't see that in the shop, just in the fighter select screen. New fighters are priced weird too, Joker is double everyone else in fighter points but with gems it's only 250 more, incentivizing using real money on him.
Despite all of this AND the unmentioned connectivity issues I've experienced, I'm having tons of fun playing this game again. I feel like it's more fun than the beta was, though I only played the beta for about 2 months before falling behind on everything and dropping the game for others. I want to continue following the game, but that depends on how the team goes about updating and adding more to the game.
The skins I bought in the beta are gone. At this point they got it. Not even gonna try and get that sorted out.
Edit: it’s been almost two weeks now. Sony said they couldn’t help. Pfg never got back to me. I think they robbed me lmfao
They said they are fixing the problem
@@harveywhitby8934good to know for those that will still be playing
@harveywhitby8934 Shouldn't be a problem to begin with😂😂😂 It's 2024 these inept developers can't even get a game right when they RERELEASE IT😂😂😂😂
@@300apesI said the same thing they had a whole year to get their crap together
Yeah it’s pretty pathetic. I’m happy all my stuff came through but launch for so rough i can’t keep up hope for long
The game is really fun, I really like it but I could see why some people dont.
I never comment on things, however I think the game feels pretty good. One thing I didn’t like about MVS beta was everyone just dodge jumping everywhere with invincibility. I love the new meter system and how it demands people to pay attention to what happening rather than just spamming your best attacks. Now I will say the speed was jolting to me when I first launched and it took me a day to adjust and I play 200 hours of the beta.
I do want to add I think not getting exp for playing is very odd, and makes me not want to play along with not having ranked or a leaderboard.
@valicass they already said the no exp is a bug
I feel like the dodging was necessary since there are so many bullshit moves like Bugs rocket/safe, Shaggy side b, Velma speech bubbles, etc. With the movement nerfed you can play Banana Guard and spam side b to win tournaments
@@aaronphan6514 you can now dodging and parry to deal with the bs.
@@TEExJAY24 you can still set those moves up brother. Watch the twitch rivals tournament. Banana fair and side b is broken
You can't play MultiVersus with keyboard only. Inputting a neutral special sometimes results in a bug where the dodge button ("L" on the keyboard), once pressed, not only does a different move/attack but also makes your character being controlled by a bot so you got no control over your character anymore. In this case so severe, your character just jumps off the map because of this bug. It makes the game literally unplayable for keyboard players at this point. Either you stop using neutral attacks or dodge with "shift" or "middle mouse click" which obviously shouldn't be a solution. (also not sure if this would prevent the bug from happening, so, idk.)
I created a new Profile in my keyboard software (Wootility) to rebind my keyboard inputs into controller ones so I can play the game without issues.
Yes I reinstalled the game. I even reset my whole pc. I tried changing some keybindings. Friends of mine experience the same "bot taking over your controls, dodge not working" bug as well.
Please fix! :c
MVS is genuinely fun but that and goodwill from the beta are the only things keeping it in good graces right now. This release is objectively backwards from the beta from the UI, leaderboards, stats tracked, mastery rewards, monetization etc.
I feel you on wanting to just enjoy the game but in a year following the disastrous flop that was Suicide Squad it’s REALLY hard to not feel like MultiVersus isn’t here to immediately foot the 200 million dollar bill for Warner Bros.
THANK YOU!
Everyone is so negative about EVERYTHING now adays online. I’m in the same camp and just wanna enjoy what I like.
Same it’s like I understand their complaints but they just need to calm the f down
Apparently saying “Yes this game has problems that I hope get resolved, but I still enjoy my time with the game” makes you a “paid shill” or “apologist”.
@@lihzzahrdspeed6631 1000%! Ive voiced my concerns and hope that it gets updated to be better. Meanwhile, others are already saying the games dead when it hasn’t even been a week.
The Beyblade community was the same way. Always wanting to get negative. Now it died out. I'm saying this as a Beytuber with almost 12k subs on another account. People just wanted me to hate hate hate but I didn't. I just wanted to play with toys.
need them to add the swap neutral and side control option back asap
facts man feels so weird jabbing with a tilt and tilting with a jab
Ive been playing the game and I found myself liking it more than the beta! It feels less reliant on spamming dodges and making smarter choices. Game is also better to spectate for 2v2. There totally are things to critique the game on like features, bugs and progression. The gameplay is sick and I hope PFG gives people time to get used to the changes before they make it like beta again.
I’ve been playing with my cousin almost the entire year before release, and it was so nice and fun to be able to play everyone. Now we have to unlock characters to use them in local? I don’t think player first games realizes that was a stupid mistake, I learned about each character and who I wanted to unlock through the lab gameplay. Idk how but they made the game worse…
Dude, I can't even express how much I appreciate what you had to say. I went on Reddit and Twitter to see if everyone else was enjoying the game as much as I was, and I was met with such an overwhelming force of negativity that it killed my excitement a little bit. I was ecstatic for the future of the game, but with the general reaction I've seen, it seems like the playerbase is going to die out quicker than the Beta did. I fully acknowledge the game has its issues, but what game doesn't? And what happened to having a bit of patience? I'm confident that the devs are trying their absolute best, why not give it a few weeks to allow them to get settled in and fix some of the more prominent issues?
All in all, I'm loving the game. The leaked characters (especially *him*) have me so hyped for the future, and I am glad to see someone else willing to speak out and say they're actually enjoying the game, too!
Look at what the devs promised in Season 2, and how they botched the trajectory of this game completely. It's no wonder people are very disappointed with all the changes, when it's an inferior version of a Beta. There is NO excuse for that. Sorry that people were genuinely let down in more ways than they imagined.
@@grdfhrghrggrtwqqu Tony addressed why the game fell off so hard in a recent interview, the main reason being that their team was just too small to handle the release schedule they were trying to maintain.
As far as the changes, I think that *most* of the changes are actually great. The speed is too slow, but it's far better than the pure chaos that the beta was. And in regards to this being an "inferior" version of the beta, that is completely your opinion. I personally am having a great time, as much or even more than I did in the beta.
I hate that people are let down, but I honestly think that if we just give the devs a little time, they will fix most of what people are unhappy with. Just my opinion, but going off of Tony and the team's constant presence on Twitter trying to help out any folks who are running into bugs, I do believe they are listening and care about what we all think.
@@grdfhrghrggrtwqqugame feels better to me not sure what is inferior about it
You can't ask for patience when the game was down for a year and it came back worse than before
The game is so much less fun than the beta for me. I bleed for that shit. This is too slow man can’t get into it as much
Hey Void! Glad you are enjoying the game. In the hbox video he assumed you couldn’t speak truth on the game because of a contract. He was corrected in the video.
I feel you on what you said on the intro. I get criticizing the game but sometimes it feels like people aren't saying bad things about the game because they want it to improve but instead because they want to hate on it and make others agree that it is bad
People are upset for good reason. No matter what way people phrase it, this is not the same game we played in beta and spent money on and for alot of us it just sucks.
The worst part is I had over 8,000 gold. Could have spent to get 2-4 fighters.
They lied & said everything will carry over. They stole it all from me & gave me a stupid player card for it.🤬
My main disappointment is how weak the combo game is now. I'm totally fine with the game speed being lowered, but the fact that we went from 8+ moves in an optimal combo to 3-4 tops feels pretty bad.
Naw I love that change
@@LucidLukawhy?
@@LucidLuka zzzzz
Yeah there's definitely something off with it now.
@@aaronphan6514cause bro sucks at platform fighters
Void, I appreciate you man. I really like the game too! And I'm really grateful to you for being honest. I'm hyped for the future of the game, and hope to see you continue to enjoy it dude.
I don't think its too slow at all. Feels way better than how it was before. My biggest dislike is that even when I turn character outlines off, the enemy still has a red hue over the entire character. It's like I'm fighting a red blob
They confirmed they are speeding the game up can’t remember the Reddit post but a official person confirmed that
Its a bit slower than intended because of the lag spikes (i have a ps4) and the outlines do suck, i wanna see the character models 😢
@@MintTastic phooey. They already have the 5% movement speed perk. They should just buff that alittle instead
@@johnny0sksux eh I’d rather it be faster without a perk I don’t like how slow it is compared to the beta
You can turn that feature off on the settings @@Lukas-py4dr
Idk if its just me but xbox series X is just unplayable for me...
yea im on last gen n it was ass. I used jake up special and it crashed my game 😂😂😂
I’m on ps5, for me 1v1 is pretty solid. But 2v2 and rifts with my friend is pretty much unplayable. Nearly every game desynchs or sometimes my game or his game (he plays on series x) will crash.
I’ve had several disconnects. Luckily it doesn’t count as a loss. Still disappointing to see so many connectivity issues.
@@brandonjauregui9475 1v1s not but lags sometimes
Same, I hope it gets fixed.
idk i feel like "room to improve" is a bit of an understatement, theres so much about this game rn thats not only worse then the beta but are just super scummy and anti consumer, not being able test characters in training mode is super scummy in every way possible and it feels way harder to actually earn characters without paying up, this on top of the game functioning significantly worse then it did in the beta and being unplayable on xbox, i understand you wanna be positive but there's so much wrong with the state of the game that goes beyond a rough launch i feel like your under selling it
the game might be very grindy, however so might be other games i will probably take league as an example to multiversus. not only is it a grind to unlock characters in league but u also can pay up for characters in the game so i dont get ur point about the "grindy" characters
Yeah I can kinda agree I am a bit disappointed we can’t just grind pvp for fighter currency like we could with gold in the beta.
My problem was that short hops are gone the camera so zoomed in too much and some rework moves got changed like Velma yelling into the mic from full screen and her normals seemd slow.
I definitely understand how your feeling, this community feeling was very apparent in Brawlhalla where people loved to complain about BMG yet would still continue playing because they like they game. I understand being passionate but I also think there should be positivity and positive reinforcement
6000 for joker is actually a joke in street fighter 6 they have a currency called rental tickets where you can use thoes to try out characters they let you hop in training with them And casual mode for a whole hour
The tnj pro discord server has found a new loop for tnj
😁Can get a link pls
where can i find the discord?
Shhhhh tryna keep the agenda going strong and the sauce within the tnj circles 🤣
@@HeyHedgehog Mb hedge ill keep it a secret
@@tinyneighborGatekeeping is corny.
I spent $10 to get the Battle Pass the day the game came out so that I could play with Jason Voorhees and grind up towards the Uber Jason skin. Last night, I finished all my weekly and daily missions, and afterwards I literally could not gain any more experience to progress in the Battle Pass. The game does not just give Battle Pass experience for playing it!
Unpopular opinion: Multiversus is better being this slow and it’s good that you can‘t air dodge infinitely.
You should be able to buy fighter currency and it should be dirt cheap. Either that or it should be able to be earned much faster. Honestly, that is my only problem with the monetization structure.
If it’s too fast paced people will complain because they can’t compete with better players. If it’s too slow people will complain because newer players have an easier time fighting them. You can’t win
Keep going void! Please dont stop bro you're such an inspiration. Thank you for being you bro.
I hate how floaty it is, why is it so difficult to make a gravity based game?
That will happen when you bsse your gameplay around being airborne.
I'm very excited to try the game once they reintroduce the buffer option, which they said the removal of it was accidental. I LOVE multiversus, and I want desperately for it to stick around
Appreciate your authenticity!! Stay true to you! Negative click baiting may get engagement fast but it doesn't create longevity nor builds a loyal community. Keep doing you!! 🙌🏾
One thing i want for this game is a stock mode for FFA/2vs2 it kinda sucks that its a score system for that mode in custom rooms where whoever gets that amount of points when which makes games go by so quick
I like the game but every match is laggy or instantly disconnected. I have wired connection and no lag on any other game
I don't understand why some people have this and others don't. I play at least 2 hours of PVP a day and I've only been kicked from one match. I hope your issues get resolved.
The servers are overwhelmed, they need more and better servers
not a defense of removed features but an explanation.
the game was rebuilt in unreal 5. that means alot had to be re-added and ported over. probably why the menu is different and imo worse.
the leaderboards, and the removal of locked characters not being unlocked in the lab thing. its due to this rebuild of the engine change. and when you have to rebuild everything it can very much slip up. especially smaller things.
im enjoying multiversus but hope they fix some stuff. i think the speed is fine its just that moves feel sticky and i hate how it lines up your inputs sometimes. but i hope for improvement!
Ive been playing since day one of the beta and Im enjoying the new game a ton but I understand why people would be upset and I dont like why theres no damage count and rank with character
Mvs is pretty much unplayable for xbox. Tons of stuttering, frames dropping and disconnects online. Even playing solo missions is rough. Hope the devs patch it soon
Glad someone pointed this out. Especially that one stupid moving lab map that just lags the whole game for everyone and drops the frames. The game is wayy worse than it was in the beta even with the trash netcode
You are my favorite multiversus content creator and player and I love hearing your opinions and you takes on the game. I truly do wish people would give this game more of a chance it just seems like everyone is shitting on it so fast and they haven’t played it and figured anything out yet
They literally had an ENTIRE YEAR to fix this mess. There's no excuse AT ALL.
The game feels good. I wouldn't mind if they sped it up a little. I want a block mechanic/button and grabs like smash.
There is a block mechanic, and there's at least one character that can grab
The characters have moves that grabs and the game has always focused on dodging rather than blocking
Play steven universe 🤞🏽
icl i had the same opinion about the speed but once you start playing and get used to it it feels normal and it feels like if the game were to speed up it would feel too fast
nasb 2 with attack cancels is fun
I hope the devs are smart and ignore the sweaty players and make the game better for casuals. A big casual player base can create a new competitive scene eventually instead of trying to please the competitive scene that already exists for platform fighters. Plus, this business model they are going for won't work with a small sweaty player base at all, they really need tons of casuals to support the game. Trying to please everyone will kill the game again.
Us sweats will stay even if the game isn't good but the game with die without casuals being happy.
@@EliteGrimm Exactly, but Tony feels a bit shaky. I hope they don't rush some features for the competitive scene like end game stats. That feature is totally non-casual, it is stuff that casuals hate, they don't want to be blamed for losses and feel like crap after matches with 0 damage. The end game stats should be visible only on ranked matches, not on casuals.
NASB1 was just ridiculously mashy. Every character was short-hop and spam one broken move (the last nairbender, mikey dair, etc)
Multiversus is horribly slow and floaty.
They're both on the extreme ends and bad because of it.
I kinda agree. But I do think Nasb 2 dying so soon when it was a better game then the first is sad to see. Hopefully it at least sold well so third time can maybe be the charm
@@SionReaver I dont think theres gonna be a 3rd time, the problem was after nasb1 and the issues on launch its name was just dragged through the mud and there simply just no one talking about the game so no new people are gonna play it. The entire game series is just not gonna work out
Nasb2 was dead on release. It is a cash grab that was not ment to survive more than 3 months
Game is not slow. You haven't adapted. Stop trying to move like the old game with dodge jump. Spend as little time airborne and you will see your speed
@@SionReaveryeah pissed me off NASB2 just as fast if not faster. Really was hyped. Seems like people lose interest whenevr there isn’t a ton of content monthly. They’re spoiled.
the first section was real as fuck, it's annoying to like a game that the public has deemed bad, it's rough.
They need to add rank, it doesn’t matter how good the game is with no rank it will die
What's the point in adding ranked if you can't even see the stats at the end of a match?
Not yet there are tons of people still lagging and DCing, if they add ranked that will make them even more mad when they DC and lose
You can see the ranked option when clicking what game mode to play. It's dark but it's coming.
being able to see more detailed stats in the career tab would be great as well as show me after match damage
Honestly gameplay aside, my main gripe with this game is that it's a live service game with hundreds of micro transactions. We love to complain about any other game that does stuff like this like redfall or Kill the Justice League, but for some reason it's okay when multiversus does it. I understand it's free to play, but if all of this is at the cost of it being free, I'd rather the game just be 20-40 dollars or something.
where's the gacha?
Bruh skins do not matter at all.
If this wasn't free to play it would be dead in a week like NASB2
Literally everything is unlockable. You don’t have to buy anything and you can still access every character.
tf are u on abt
Im just happy theyre addressing almost all the issues people are having and saying they're working on it
I really love this damn game, and seeing this amount of negativity really damn hurt me. Was speed actually that important? The slower speed feels so much better.
Theres a lot more problems than the speed😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@300apes I can understand why people are upset about the other stuff, but I don’t understand the anger over speed. Beta was just a large dodge and speed fest that made combat pretty frustrating
Fast paced combat was an appealing concept to a lot of people especially in comp on beta. Imagine how many people would stop playing call of duty if it was literally 3x slow speed. The games the same, just a lot mechanics and mind games go out the window.
@@tylersweeney9749 it definitely wasn’t that big of a slowdown. But idk if you watch mfs tournaments but the dodge spam was insane. Maybe they can revert it to make everyone happy but it just doesn’t look good when watching your or other people gameplay back. It’s looks so spammy and mashy vs actual skill
No ones talking about local all the characters are locked whilst in the open beta it was free this is a shame I was so happy fir multuversus be somehow they got worse
I loved nasb1 & I also loved multiverse beta
I really enjoy the game. The speed is not a problem for me at all, I think the input delay is more of a problem. The speed in which your attacks come out is noticeable, but the actual speed that a character moves is completely fine and I think people are getting them mixed up
I also do agree that the fighter currency earned from PVP should be higher, but I think the reason it’s low is that so people try the PVE mode, which is loaded with it. It’s a fun mode and I feel people aren’t giving it a fair shot
The game speed isn’t as bad as people are making it seem there are some characters that are harder to use than other but they just want to complain I’m gonna play regardless just cause I love Warner brother studios properties
And I’m not sayin there isn’t issues but people are blowing it way out of proportion
2:39 Absolutely! This doesn't only happen with platform fighters but in all gaming. There's this tendency for people to judge/speak about things that they've never played or cared from the start and is getting annoying. So much unwanted negativity everywhere that maybe for you or for me wont matter in the longrun but there is people out there that feel scared to say they like or enjoy a game because there's a "negative" buzz around it and that buzz is mostly BS.
I always say "Too many people judge, too little people play". It happened to me with the recent Hellblade 2 that i adore and is now happening with Multiversus which i'm having a blast.
I don't think it's a matter of hating a game yall just give games too much grace
I think he's mainly saying he feels ostracized for enjoying the game while everyone and their mother is criticizing and hating it.
Tbh pfg did it to themselves
@@Nightwinger5100pretty much, it’s hard to like something when everyone else tells you can’t
The fact this community is nit picking a FREE game to this degree is telling to the quality of those individuals. AAA game companies that demand a box price and a monthly service fee. Hey I'm right there with you. Or the games thst let you pay to rent the game but never own. Multiversus as it is now. Is a GOOD GAME. appreciate the free good game.
yall crashing out over a game that's unstable with countless bugs is crazy free game or not they expect to make money from it
@@blakkavrahm03_surf6 hence why that should be their first priority
I find that is great to hear you put your foot down and be transparent on what you are feeling about the game. I love MVS, and i really want the game to succeed, but people shouldn't feel attacked because of this, nor should MVS lovers attack you because you don't stay. If the game doesn't improve, is totally understandable if you don't feel like playing it anymore, but for the mean time, at least lets have some fun and leave the devs to cook, if they do of course. And lets hope they do.
Honestly I think Multiversus has the most toxic casual player base I've ever seen. They're constantly crying like children over the dumbest stuff and confidentiality talking about stuff they have no idea about. The subreddit is a cesspool
Look at Season 2. The devs shot themselves in the foot on communication front big time, and let a lot of people down. People aren't outraged for no reason or because they want to, but because they have no choice since they essentially have to. The Devs will have to listen or find out if their game holds water the hard way. It doesn't get any more simple than that.
have u seen smash? lol
Dude the game just came out, why are you saying "most toxic casual player base I've ever seen".
You are aware this game had an open beta yes? Lol@@ewfkjwbehjfbewkhfgwehjyf632
Nothing is immune from criticize. Acting like a million dollar company's heavily monetized live service game can do no wrong and has no flaws does nothing to inprove the very flawed game.
Void just doesnt like being negative or say bad things about games/characters or balance but that doesnt mean the problems dont exist we should ignore them. If you want the game to last these issues must be addressed or the game will die
Nah, what hbox said is that hes not sure you and nakat are able to voice your actual opinions because of how closely invovled youve been with the studio. Which, hes not wrong, and most of the time creators are bound to some sort of contract where they can only say certain things. Heck, not that long ago marvel rivals studio had a written agreement saying that anyone who played the alpha couldnt say or imply anything negative about it. So i dont think its worth getting worked up over that.
Void you’re my favorite MVS creator because of your positivity, please don’t stop!
I'm convinced that the real reason people are complaining about Multiversus' speed is because they have nothing better to do. It's a lot of fun as it is (although I've never been a huge fan of free-to-play-with-in-game-purchases games) and if people are gonna keep complaining about it, they can just quit playing. I never played Beta, so maybe I'm wrong, but I still think people need to stop complaining about it.
So the game is noticeably slower when compared with the beta. The game isn't inherently 'slow' now, just slower.
The game is fine as it is and it just will take time to adjust to, including the Dodge meter which slows down movement as well, since Dodge jumping was a standard in the beta.
No the game is just slower, hitstop is insanely high where, especially in 2s, you get git and it feels like your charachter is frozen for over a second. Movement feels choppy and the game being slow wouldnt that big of an issue if charachters werent so fucking floaty
Nothing better to do? Sure we do! It’s called playing a better game than this crap! Rather go back to NASB2 then play this turtle game. The beta was ALREADY slow to begin with and they make it even slower? You realize it’s slower than smash brawl right? Which is mind boggling ….. it’s boring. You get rewarded for having slow reaction time. Especially characters like Jason and iron giant. You can see their moves coming a mile away and easily dodge them or beat them with your faster frame moves…. That’s not balanced
@@Hinokami777 I dropped it after like an hour. Rivals of Aether 2 comes out this year and that developer actually cares about making a good platform fighter, not just a smash clone.
@@Hinokami777 Womp Womp.
This game is AMAZING! Duos gives the vibe of if one person played Nana and another played Popo.
Later on in time, the coop combos are gonna be unREAL!
P.S. people just want something to whine about. They dont remember the days you had to go to someone's house to have someone to play against. That was TRULY unfortunate
Hbox did say that but that happens to people in gaming
What I think they should do is release an “all fighters pack” similar to what Bh does. Pay one set price (WB will probably make it expensive) to get all the characters and future characters. Sure we can grind but it’s really tedious to do so.
The currency model, menus, and lack of communication about most features being gone didn't really set this game up for success.
I like the gameplay, just everything else about the game got worse for no good reason. We had a good menu, good training mode, good ways to earn characters and cosmetics. Now, its fucking utter shit, and you can't tell me they didn't know what people liked. Don't care if it was WB exec's making the decision or not, it feels like a mobile game with how convoluted the menus are and how bad earning characters is.
Love MVS but I'm curious as to some of the decisions made during development..
• The UE4 to UE5 change in order to accommodate Netcode?
• UE4 to UE5 change for graphically fidelity?
• What's done is done, just thinking that maybe if PFG stuck to UE4 we would have more progress into MVS' development instead of rebuilding it on UE5..
I feel like a lot of people don't like playing platform fighters in a way that isn't like smash.
I love the game right now. I think the camera should back up a little bit. I love the speed!
I definitely do miss the damage and KO’s on the end screen. It’s honestly so cool
There is an in-between between the speed of NASB1 and MultiVersus. It's called NASB2.
Duddee that game is quite literally underrated. Aside from the fact they are grtting more DLC, I need there to be more ATLA characters
@@trentoliver5357more ATLA characters? Lol, by the end of the upcoming Dlc, there would be 5 ATLA characters, same amount as Spongebob characters
Speed the game up like 20% and it’s fine. But the problem is there are tons of other issues. It’s got SO many issues beyond just the speed. VOID, this is specifically to you. The issue isn’t that it’s not okay to talk about liking the game, but this shit is gonna die if they DONT fix the issues. Thats the problem. And I love this game so it would suck for it to die.
Anything the “Worlds Greatest Gamer” says I’m with idc. No one else has that title so no one else’s opinion would matter
That's pretty sad
Dick riiiiiiiider!
aight dis kinda crazy☠️
Mf glazing
Doing tricks on it
I honestly am a lot more into this than I thought I would be after the beta. It feels a lot better to play than it looks. The main issues I have are just that its maybe a bit too grindy and of course the connection issues rn, but those may end up being changed down the line.
yeah game is grindy but it's a bit too much.
yet the game itself isn’t enough, i deleted the game til it’s fixed
@@thruthevoidwhat needs to be fixed if you don’t mind asking
@@ixojoh1445imo unlocking characters takes way too long. you really can only unlock them after every 5 levels. once you get to 15 it takes like an hour to get to 16, now add that to 20. There needs to be way more ways unlocking characters than non stop grinding online
Bro we’re literally grinding for no reason game needs to be fixed
@@ssgranksss224what needs to be fixed?
I love how much you love nasb 1. As a nasb player, I'm so happy that you say you love it too. What was different with nasb 2 that you don't like it as much?
It’s fun if you turn your brain off and play your dailies and laugh at the cartoon characters beating the life out of each other. If you take it any more seriously than that, yeah it’s stupid and mashy. I could care less about playing this in any competitive sense, though, so I’m good. Also it was super uncool of Hbox to put words in your mouth like that
I'll still watch Void because he's dope but the game is not okay in it's current state.
Tbh, and I could be wrong but it could be some things are on hold due to not releasing everything at once. Like the beta didn't immediately release with leaderboard and ranked mode. Maybe that will come later along with stats, etc
Unfortunately, I didn't have a lot of characters that I had in the beta, so that sucks, but I'm still having a tone of fun. They should really have all the characters unlocked in local play though.
I have a 4070 and the game is running 120 fps... but it doesnt feel like 120 its feels like less than 60 if someone knows why help please.
unlock characters on local play, speed up the game a bit, add end-of-game stats back, bring back character leaderboard rankings... lots of small stuff that they could pull back from the beta without completely reversing direction that'd make this game infinitely better.
Why no damage after or ring outs after game? Where are the leaderboards?????
1:58 THIS! CANT VOID JUST LIKE A GAME FOR JUST FOR THE SAKE OF LIKING THE GAME?! I even commented on this on his vid that you didnt have early access like the other people like NAKAT and you those were your genuine thoughts
IDK if morty is bugged or if he is meant to be this strong he is nuts, but also very bugged especially when splitting the nades sometimes it splits and it goes flying off the map or it just does not split
Besides Server issues my biggest problem is that my skins are all gone i dont know what to do