warner music claimed my video for defending their copyright in a lawsuit they lost the copyright for

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  • @adamneely2915
    @adamneely2915  4 роки тому +14143

    Update - the claim was released, i briefly made this video unlisted, but now i relisted it.

    • @jpaulo_ap
      @jpaulo_ap 4 роки тому +130

      No

    • @Sleeepy.
      @Sleeepy. 4 роки тому +506

      Thank goodness

    • @adancein
      @adancein 4 роки тому +21

      Nice

    • @williamlee7304
      @williamlee7304 4 роки тому +88

      what a journey

    • @ErikNonIdle
      @ErikNonIdle 4 роки тому +469

      I'm genuinely happy for you. What a complete clusterfuck, man.

  • @t2hk_
    @t2hk_ 4 роки тому +4813

    Warner: Hey your lawsuit is trash!
    Adam Neely: Yeah I agree!
    Warner: Well I disagree!

    • @niaford690
      @niaford690 4 роки тому +75

      Big Bulk
      >a taste of his own medicine
      Oh, you mean informing the masses about a dangerous precedent that is being put into play? oh heavens no! clearly he's at fault for informing the masses that people are trying to make it so nobody can ever make music again! oh the inhumanity!

    • @Manas-co8wl
      @Manas-co8wl 4 роки тому +2

      I'll show you medicine

    • @ericsaibotXD
      @ericsaibotXD 4 роки тому

      lmao this comment is underrated XD

    • @pepprpaste
      @pepprpaste 4 роки тому +16

      Big Bulk You seem like the type who listens to underground artists for the simple purpose of being different. It was the small artist who went after the big company and won for a stupid reason. If he gets shamed, he brought it upon himself. Little artists who aren't scummy about the way they create music aren't affected by this guy's video. Only the assholes who try to capitalize on a big companys success and earn easy money are the ones that are affected. and they deserve it.

    • @TheReal4th
      @TheReal4th 4 роки тому +8

      Big Bulk
      Why is a total non-musician like you arguing about music in Adam’s channel? You probably didn’t even understand a droplet of his arguments in the original video lmao. If you were actually educated enough to understand his points, you wouldn’t be saying any of these bullshit. Get out of here and go listen to your redundant pop music. Didn’t anybody ever teach you to not talk about things you have no idea about?

  • @enersha
    @enersha 4 роки тому +4238

    this act of incompetence explains how they lost such a suit that they should have won

    • @saxyrep1
      @saxyrep1 4 роки тому +91

      👏😂 Dude, that's exactly what I was about to post. Props !

    • @sylvainmichaud2262
      @sylvainmichaud2262 4 роки тому +189

      Maybe the same person worked on both cases.
      Ironically, by confounding both "melodies" in this instance, they simply validated their adversaries' case while trying to screw someone who was defending their case.
      Now that's incompetence !
      Twice !

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 4 роки тому +20

      And they're still being ripped off by their lawyers it appears.

    • @AnyDrug
      @AnyDrug 4 роки тому +16

      You really think WMG wanted to win this suit ... I mean, instead of creating a precedential case for all their hidious claims to come.

    • @IsraelCountryCube
      @IsraelCountryCube 4 роки тому +1

      @@sylvainmichaud2262 LET THEM HAVE THE CORONAVIRUS AND SHOVE IT UP THEIR AS*H*LES!

  • @GadgetAddict
    @GadgetAddict 2 роки тому +599

    Warner looking at this video, with their finger over the "claim" button 🙈

    • @silvo5955
      @silvo5955 2 роки тому +3

      hello person from 2 days ago

    • @stxrenegade
      @stxrenegade 2 роки тому +3

      @@silvo5955 hello person from 6 hours ago.

    • @samfrostinjapan
      @samfrostinjapan 2 роки тому +3

      @@stxrenegade Hello person from 3 hours ago.

    • @slothysoap4589
      @slothysoap4589 2 роки тому +2

      @@samfrostinjapan Hello person from 6 hours ago

    • @clesilver220
      @clesilver220 2 роки тому +1

      @@slothysoap4589 hello person fom 13 hours ago

  • @cekobidonq
    @cekobidonq 4 роки тому +16625

    We are reaching levels of greed that shouldn't even be possible.

    • @Hey_Jamie
      @Hey_Jamie 4 роки тому +177

      cekobidonq Trump is the president. What do you expect.

    • @viccyyboii3308
      @viccyyboii3308 4 роки тому +558

      @@Hey_Jamie Shut the fuck up, Trump has nothing to do with music you ass, gtfo.

    • @calamari3064
      @calamari3064 4 роки тому +356

      *EA WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE A SEAT*

    • @viccyyboii3308
      @viccyyboii3308 4 роки тому +5

      @@calamari3064 How are they greedy?

    • @calamari3064
      @calamari3064 4 роки тому +249

      @@viccyyboii3308 I can name dozens of examples my dear friend

  • @deltasword1994
    @deltasword1994 4 роки тому +2256

    Not only did they bite the hand that was feeding them, they tried ripping the whole arm off.

    • @DJdoppIer
      @DJdoppIer 4 роки тому +35

      Perfect metaphor.

    • @ThatLaloBoy
      @ThatLaloBoy 4 роки тому +82

      Not only that. They ripped off the wrong arm.

    • @anarchy8968
      @anarchy8968 4 роки тому +6

      They also tried to do that with a kittens jaw

    • @namedafteracar3645
      @namedafteracar3645 4 роки тому +2

      The time has come execute Order 66, *me clicks likes and makes it 666*

    • @emilymonahan5232
      @emilymonahan5232 4 роки тому +1

      @@namedafteracar3645 *sweats in I want to like the comment but I don't want to disrupt the like number*

  • @redmed10
    @redmed10 4 роки тому +2960

    Record companies would sue music teachers in classrooms if they could.

    • @fakiirification
      @fakiirification 4 роки тому +391

      You honor, We will prove through preponderance of evidence, that this "teacher" was teaching "children" in a "classroom" the Major key of C, which we have used extensively through out our vast catalog of music, and therefor infringed upon our intellectual property rights.

    • @ghhg-je8wv
      @ghhg-je8wv 4 роки тому +60

      They do.....

    • @JaBryDa
      @JaBryDa 4 роки тому +209

      They can and they have. Disney has sued teachers and school systems for playing their movies for non educational reasons, pretty bs.

    • @AshnSilvercorp
      @AshnSilvercorp 4 роки тому +42

      Technically because of the lack of fair use laws in Europe, they can sue any teacher that attempts to even play one example...

    • @verybarebones
      @verybarebones 4 роки тому +122

      They'd rather stop new music from being created than lose a single cent they might be able to earn. This proves copyright doesnt protect artistic creation anymore. I see no reason for it to exist at this point, you dont need corporations producing and distributing albums so they shouldn't be protected.

  • @Galahadfairlight
    @Galahadfairlight 2 роки тому +180

    The most egregious part is that a human actually watched the video that was defending their company, using the music under fair use provision, decided "fuck him", picked the wrong section for copyright and still claimed it anyway.
    The Mens Rea behind that is so staggeringly self harming

    • @rideronthedrumbeat
      @rideronthedrumbeat 2 роки тому +8

      Absolutely no chance they watched the video. It's the first appearance of (what they THOUGHT) was the Dark Horse ostinato in the video. They probably watched up to there, went "haha, gottem, easy money", then filed the claim, disregarding the rest of the video's content.

  • @DavidGossettMusic
    @DavidGossettMusic 4 роки тому +65389

    Let me remind you... this is the company that aggressively held the rights for "Happy Birthday."

    • @doggy7210
      @doggy7210 4 роки тому +2728

      Seriously?

    • @AlasdairGR
      @AlasdairGR 4 роки тому +4065

      Better start sending Cease & Desists to every family in the world.

    • @tannerteddo
      @tannerteddo 4 роки тому +2866

      @@doggy7210 Both the music and lyrics are in public domain in both the European Union and United States. The copyright expired in the European Union on January 1, 2017. In the United States, a federal court ruled in 2016 that Warner/Chappell's copyright claim was invalid and there was no other claim to copyright.

    • @doggy7210
      @doggy7210 4 роки тому +881

      @@tannerteddo Warner is out of control! This is worse than that time Micheal Jackson bought out Paul McCartney's songs

    • @tannerteddo
      @tannerteddo 4 роки тому +323

      Doggy ...yep. They are truly scum

  • @ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785
    @ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785 4 роки тому +7218

    Warner attorneys: Yeah, this is big brain time

    • @Redd56
      @Redd56 4 роки тому +7

      Yes

    • @aisukyubu6470
      @aisukyubu6470 4 роки тому +13

      Big brain ,pea brain choices.

    • @Pause4011
      @Pause4011 4 роки тому +47

      Well, now he's a felon for music theft right? So his testimony becomes invalid, proving that they don't actually own the rights to the melody, thus they can't claim the video, which makes him not a felon thereby making his testimony admissible again, which makes it claimable again, and now we're back at the first part of this sentence...

    • @aisukyubu6470
      @aisukyubu6470 4 роки тому

      @@Pause4011 yez

    • @vonnichikun6532
      @vonnichikun6532 4 роки тому +5

      They’ll use the ad revenue to pay the attorneys guys

  • @roryross3878
    @roryross3878 4 роки тому +16542

    You should inform the Joyful Noise people that their song is being claimed by the company they just beat in court

    • @eanschaan9392
      @eanschaan9392 4 роки тому +1772

      That would be absolute gold.

    • @amalthea25
      @amalthea25 4 роки тому +76

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @rajatgupta1850
      @rajatgupta1850 4 роки тому +292

      He has to cut deal with Joyful noise also.

    • @yggdrasil9039
      @yggdrasil9039 4 роки тому +73

      I would love to see that

    • @CallMeCamTV
      @CallMeCamTV 4 роки тому +537

      @@rajatgupta1850 a small price to pay for sweet, sweet justice

  • @chrisxd146
    @chrisxd146 2 роки тому +157

    2 years late but this was highly amusing to watch unfold at the time. Its also a lesson on how dangerous the music industry is with publishing companies wuick to the trigger on filing copyright claims for songs they don't even own.
    There really needs to be a revision to the DMCA that allows defendents to receive double the monetary value in damages for every false filing made (and have legal fees covered). At least then content creators can get some compensation for having to deal with a publishing companies shit.

    • @FNLNFNLN
      @FNLNFNLN 2 роки тому +4

      DMCA should be an innocent until proven guilty thing. Nothing happens to the offending content until the claimant can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the infringed material both belongs to them, and falls outside of fair use.

    • @ternalator
      @ternalator 2 роки тому +2

      @@FNLNFNLN That would be far too reasonable and time consuming for the vultures to bother with. Far better for them to just prey on the public 🙄

  • @UltraAntiEverything
    @UltraAntiEverything 4 роки тому +3491

    Adam: "Let's defend free artistic creativity"
    Warner: *bursts in shirtless* "NOT ON MY WATCH!"

    • @PTNLemay
      @PTNLemay 4 роки тому +42

      And then Warner shoots himself in the foot.

    • @lukelim5094
      @lukelim5094 4 роки тому +3

      Is warner gonna rape adam.... Oh right.

    • @bluesap7318
      @bluesap7318 4 роки тому +5

      You forgot one big detail... those *BIG* and *HAIRY* nipples!

    • @angelgabriel1825
      @angelgabriel1825 3 роки тому +2

      @@PTNLemay
      warner: NOT ON MY WATCH
      *PULLS GUN*
      warner:*shoots it self on the foot*.... shit

  • @andreidragostin
    @andreidragostin 4 роки тому +10963

    Adam: Warner didn't steal this.
    Judge: Warner DID steal this.
    Warner: Adam stole this.
    Adam: What?!

    • @pongchannel.
      @pongchannel. 4 роки тому +21

      Lol

    • @michaeledmunds7266
      @michaeledmunds7266 4 роки тому +183

      @Bum Face Gammon "f*ck it, we all stole it."
      Communism

    • @joseph3062
      @joseph3062 4 роки тому +6

      @@michaeledmunds7266 Soyuz nerushimy respublik svobodnykh spotilla naveki velikaya rus

    • @michaeledmunds7266
      @michaeledmunds7266 4 роки тому +5

      @@joseph3062 Это именно то, чего я бы хотел сказать от Иосифа Сталина.

    • @MiguelSantos-kc6vw
      @MiguelSantos-kc6vw 4 роки тому +12

      @Bum Face Gammon you must be fun for free economies

  • @McNeal22
    @McNeal22 4 роки тому +2362

    This is the biggest bruh moment I've ever seen

  • @xiaowei1374
    @xiaowei1374 3 роки тому +13

    “Life is a cruel teacher. She loves to give you the test first and the lesson later.” - Daymond John

  • @CarlosPerez-hm7gf
    @CarlosPerez-hm7gf 4 роки тому +7178

    ‘Why did you sting me?” the frog asked the scorpion. “You’ve doomed us both!”
    “Because it’s my nature,” said the scorpion.

    • @insightfulpropaganda6797
      @insightfulpropaganda6797 4 роки тому +462

      Honestly I never appreciated that fable before. This is a prime example.

    • @therealcat5794
      @therealcat5794 4 роки тому +309

      The scorpion asked the frog for a ride across the river right?

    • @edisonmoreira
      @edisonmoreira 4 роки тому +82

      @@therealcat5794 Yes.

    • @mrcroob8563
      @mrcroob8563 4 роки тому +45

      Except that implies Adams video did anything for them. Hes not saving them, he made a youtube video that no one involved is going to see or care about lol.

    • @jixish1768
      @jixish1768 4 роки тому +1

      @@edisonmoreira no

  • @JazzGuitarNoob
    @JazzGuitarNoob 4 роки тому +843

    "It hurts itself in its confusion."

    • @nickl2854
      @nickl2854 4 роки тому +8

      pretty much

    • @aluisiomagalhaes4478
      @aluisiomagalhaes4478 4 роки тому +19

      Careful, Nintendo may copyright claim you for this. They are huge asses with this.

    • @Atlasburn
      @Atlasburn 4 роки тому +1

      I want to up vote, but it's at 420 xD

    • @NoahStolee
      @NoahStolee 4 роки тому

      😂😂

    • @Metal73Mike
      @Metal73Mike 4 роки тому

      Brilliant XD XD

  • @darthhiro7425
    @darthhiro7425 4 роки тому +1600

    I guess they deserved to lose the suit if they can’t tell their own song

    • @Hiroheim
      @Hiroheim 4 роки тому +12

      You are me.. but evil!

    • @auseryt
      @auseryt 4 роки тому +15

      I actually the opposite would be right. They should have won the case BECAUSE no one can tell the difference.

    • @SethbotStar
      @SethbotStar 4 роки тому +22

      @@auseryt Joyful noise was first, so, unless somebody has a time machine, i would think that Warner would deserves to loose if they can't even tell.

    • @auseryt
      @auseryt 4 роки тому +2

      @@SethbotStar As far as i understood it, the point of the video they sued because of was not when comparing to Joysful, but to a part that was played by the video maker. They didn't failed to distinguish joyful from their song, but the play in the video to their song.

    • @emmanuelsinger1513
      @emmanuelsinger1513 4 роки тому +14

      Stefan Ionescu the copyright claim was filed by the defendant WB, representing Katy Perry's Dark Horse.
      Flame was suing Katy Perry (WB); Adam defended Katy (WB); WB claimed Adam's video, based on the section of it where Flame's Joyful Noise played.
      This might as well have been used as evidence by the plaintiff.

  • @takieddinbalti6956
    @takieddinbalti6956 2 роки тому +6

    "You shouldn‘t have lost the lawsuit, it‘s not fair"
    "Who are you calling a loser?? We will show what’s not fair"
    "wait wat"

  • @Poison12012
    @Poison12012 4 роки тому +2379

    “You defended us you, so you’re on our side. So you wouldn’t mind if we take your money too”

    • @thelyric2751
      @thelyric2751 4 роки тому +30

      sounds like a Rule of Acquisition

    • @michaeledmunds7266
      @michaeledmunds7266 4 роки тому +58

      @@thelyric2751 Rule of Acquisition 111: "Treat people in your debt like family... exploit them."

    • @riftvallance2087
      @riftvallance2087 4 роки тому +13

      @@michaeledmunds7266 Men of culture I see

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 4 роки тому +17

      @Michael Edmunds Rule of Acquisition 211: Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them.

    • @riftvallance2087
      @riftvallance2087 4 роки тому +11

      Rule 10 is the most appropriate here. Greed is eternal.

  • @KrazyCouch2
    @KrazyCouch2 4 роки тому +2379

    Warner: It's not copying!
    Also Warner: *Stop copying...*

    • @rigovalentine
      @rigovalentine 4 роки тому +35

      Sounds like a young karen at school during a test

    • @andromedagalaxy990
      @andromedagalaxy990 4 роки тому

      @@rigovalentine lmao

    • @omarsoub_._
      @omarsoub_._ 4 роки тому +2

      @@rigovalentine some company didnt speak to the manager within

    • @kslavvko
      @kslavvko 4 роки тому +2

      Me: stop listening to the Warner stuff :) if possible ;)

    • @uccidi
      @uccidi 4 роки тому +3

      worse: warner : It's not copying!
      Also Warner: HOW DO YOU EVEN DARE TO DEFEND US WITHOUT GIVING US MONEY!?!
      Adam: Mates, you told me to pay you for the sounds they made,not the ones you made. if you can't notice, maybe they are right...

  • @protonjinx
    @protonjinx 4 роки тому +5115

    Warner: Your honor! Dark Horse is nothing like Joyful Noise!
    Also Warner: Your honor! Adams reproduction of Joyful Noise infringes on our Dark Horse copyright!

    • @DrewKime
      @DrewKime 4 роки тому +309

      Exactly. Warner is admitting that Dark Horse is so similar to Joyful Noise that their own employee can't tell the difference. Which means either they are knowingly infringing, or they believe the similarity to be trivial.

    • @Ragnar_Aevarsson
      @Ragnar_Aevarsson 3 роки тому +51

      Judge: but we agreed that your Dark Horse was infringing the rights of Joyful Noise so your claim is 300% invalid

    • @SO-fb4ef
      @SO-fb4ef 3 роки тому +1

      Saved me 5 mins thanks

    • @luketurner314
      @luketurner314 3 роки тому +3

      Reminds me of Legal Eagle's outro of "... and I'll see you in court." That and Ace Attorney

    • @segueoyuri
      @segueoyuri 3 роки тому +6

      have you ever heard of lawyers? That's a summary of their daily activities lmao

  • @illturralli
    @illturralli 2 роки тому +18

    Warner bros: "I have copyright claimed C"
    Everyone else: "C what?"
    Warner bros: "The chord C, we use it in our songs, so it's ours"

  • @BlueprintScience
    @BlueprintScience 4 роки тому +2329

    Nobody:
    Warner: "Quick, sue our defenders!"

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 4 роки тому +45

      Backstabbing is s sport in the corporate world, especially in the entertainment industry.

    • @hendrik6720
      @hendrik6720 4 роки тому +15

      @@slappy8941 literal sport. I'm actually surprised, weirdly Delighted, shocked, disgusted, and jealous that I'll never reach that level of shamelessness.

    • @cobaltclaw5136
      @cobaltclaw5136 4 роки тому +10

      A boring dystopia

    • @DukeApples
      @DukeApples 4 роки тому +3

      When you lose the lawsuit, then the Defenders must have sucked and deserves punishment 😂😂

    • @hendrik6720
      @hendrik6720 4 роки тому +5

      @@cobaltclaw5136 accurate to a fault. The WORST kind of dystopia, second only to 1984.

  • @LEFT4BASS
    @LEFT4BASS 4 роки тому +2766

    So to recap:
    Adam defends Warner-Chapel’s right to Dark Horse.
    Warner-Chapel loses right to Dark Horse.
    Warner-Chapel proceeds to stab Adam in the back, trying to claim his video for using the melody of Dark Horse, but instead cites the part where he plays Joyful Noise, the song they claim not to have stolen, even though they no longer have the legal rights to either melody.

    • @stockyphilb7663
      @stockyphilb7663 4 роки тому +143

      "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect." 🤣🤔🤯

    • @codyhill6238
      @codyhill6238 4 роки тому +273

      You missed the extra part where in the lawsuit too, where they claimed that it wasnt even their melody, but instead a background sound - then claimed the video because it was the melody.

    • @sponchtnb
      @sponchtnb 4 роки тому +2

      Lol

    • @leiners7241
      @leiners7241 4 роки тому

      lol

    • @betalars
      @betalars 4 роки тому +21

      No. They are not trying to claim the video.
      They just claim it and get away with all the money.

  • @Sonathan1893
    @Sonathan1893 4 роки тому +1854

    This is the best example why UA-cam shouldn't just blindly accept all copyright claims by big companies.

    • @deadbeef576
      @deadbeef576 3 роки тому +37

      But thats how they make money

    • @pittagiiya
      @pittagiiya 3 роки тому +63

      You don't even have to be a big company. You can be a random guy

    • @PieMan061
      @PieMan061 2 роки тому +76

      I don't understand how UA-cam thinks the default should be "guilty until proven innocent". But I mean, they were bought out by Google and Google did remove their "Don't be evil" slogan...

    • @MrWizardjr9
      @MrWizardjr9 2 роки тому +10

      what else can youtube do? if they are issues a DMCA takedown they have to comply and it is up to you to fight the takedown in the courts

    • @justanoman6497
      @justanoman6497 2 роки тому +21

      @@PieMan061 They don't have a choice. If they don't comply with a takedown/claim, they can be then sued. Why would they take any risk of being sued when there is nothing in it for them even if they end up winning? They'd at best break even, and that's pretty much an impossibility in American legal system, you don't get reimbursed for your time and effort, only costs if that. And that's not to consider the damages they would suffer if they lost, however minute that might be in a particular case.
      Now, had it been YT's bot misidentifying stuff, you might sort of a have a point. While YT is sort of required to monitor content on their own, there is no specific legal requirement for them to be as zealous about it as they are.. I think, I'm not 100% sure. But when it comes to a manual claim/takedown, YT only stands to lose at rejecting them. So it is perfectly normal for them to not intervene and let the two sides fight it out among themselves.
      DMCA is a piece of *beep* created by people who doesn't understand how the internet works and lobbied by the "companies". In an ideal world, the claimed party or the platform should be able to sue for cost and additional damages on a frivolous claim, then the platform would have an incentive to actually step in and regulate claims, as they could make some money off of it (on average).

  • @Gkitchens1
    @Gkitchens1 2 роки тому +22

    The system for copyright claims is totally broken and they need to be held accountable.

  • @patrickhunter
    @patrickhunter 4 роки тому +1395

    There's so much irony in all of this that you'd think Adam is a steel manufacturer

    • @EvadingFate
      @EvadingFate 4 роки тому +50

      Dad, is that you?

    • @thescoobymike
      @thescoobymike 4 роки тому +20

      2/10

    • @natstewgirl
      @natstewgirl 4 роки тому +39

      He'd be such a great alloy to their cause too, but instead, they've sunk their case.

    • @raulperez2308
      @raulperez2308 4 роки тому +23

      i'm steeling all of these

    • @Mettyunuabona_
      @Mettyunuabona_ 4 роки тому +3

      Steele Adam and their smash hit album The Royal Scam...

  • @timesink8947
    @timesink8947 4 роки тому +3792

    This is fine, everything is fine, copyright law is fine as it is, nothing to see here.
    Signed,
    UA-cam

    • @Mtaalas
      @Mtaalas 4 роки тому +50

      Copyright law might be, but the fact that you need deep pockets to defend yourself against others, even if you're in the right, is completely ass backwards.

    • @maverickdoe6984
      @maverickdoe6984 4 роки тому +12

      @@Mtaalas Wooosh!

    • @Mtaalas
      @Mtaalas 4 роки тому +20

      @@maverickdoe6984 there's a difference between the law and what you need for the law to be realized in practice.

    • @DominicAirola
      @DominicAirola 4 роки тому +5

      Timesink I’ve looked into your account and nowhere can I find evidence that you actually work for UA-cam let alone have the authority to represent an opinion held by the entire company. Preeeeetty sure you’re just a big phony!

    • @Zathas
      @Zathas 4 роки тому +5

      Dominic Airola He may be phony, but at least he’s not phony bologna. That’d be despicable.

  • @JBrander
    @JBrander 4 роки тому +1363

    UA-camr: **defends warner's rights on their own music**
    Warner: *YOU DARE SPEAK ILL ABOUT ME??*

    • @whuspr
      @whuspr 4 роки тому +3

      you just made my day

    • @lukecalumlyonwrath7723
      @lukecalumlyonwrath7723 4 роки тому +4

      Yep. They're that brain-dead.

    • @BeowulfAbroad
      @BeowulfAbroad 4 роки тому +2

      Warner Bros also copyrighted Meatcanyon’s “Wabbit Season”, sooo..... yeahZz

    • @skeltek7487
      @skeltek7487 4 роки тому +1

      They lost the lawsuit. The point is, even after loosing, they now claim, that the competitors melody is inreality theirs. Shouldnt there be an extra massive retribut... fine for having lost a lawsuit and then not exactly repeating but commiting an even worse crime?

    • @dexterousmuffin
      @dexterousmuffin 4 роки тому +1

      WHOMST HAVE AWAKEN THE ANCIENT ONE

  • @KhanhTheLearner
    @KhanhTheLearner 2 роки тому +3

    To Warner: why on this goddamn universe would you ever backstab THE PERSON WHO WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU???

  • @hulkslayer626
    @hulkslayer626 4 роки тому +1939

    Contact Joyful's legal team and let them know Warner is trying to claim THEIR melody so they can sue them and win AGAIN!! Mayne then they'll learn their lesson. I know it goes against the whole spirit of the video in the first place but fuck them for that!

    • @Xplora213
      @Xplora213 4 роки тому +115

      Hulk Slayer this is actually the best way forward.

    • @epsilomtrent932
      @epsilomtrent932 4 роки тому +35

      Xplora213 legally no. That’s double jeopardy. unless the legal team files it as a separate claim under different circumstances. Besides, it would look more like Joyful’s team would rather file a complaint on Warner so that they would receive the revenue rather than going through the arduous process of filing another lawsuit, much less a lawsuit with similar circumstances. But that’s just my two cents. I could be wrong tho, so if anyone could correct me on this, much appreciated.

    • @Xplora213
      @Xplora213 4 роки тому +47

      Casual's Breakfast an injunction against acting as if they maintained full copyright... if you steal something you can’t claim warranty on it.

    • @Aplesedjr
      @Aplesedjr 4 роки тому +86

      Casual's Breakfast it’s not double jeopardy. This is at a different time and in different circumstances.

    • @brandenrobinson9411
      @brandenrobinson9411 4 роки тому +64

      @@epsilomtrent932: The principle of double jeopardy applies only to criminal cases, and only in some circumstances (after mistrials, criminal defendants get retried all the time, and furthermore double jeopardy does not apply to distinct federal vs. state prosecutions for the same underlying actions).
      This is a civil lawsuit, a.k.a. a "tort". A.k.a. "equity" as opposed to "law". There are analogues of "double jeopardy" in torts; as I understand it, they usually go under the label of various forms of "estoppel" (collateral, promissory, etc.). IANAL, TINLA, ad libitum ad nauseam.

  • @thechugg4372
    @thechugg4372 4 роки тому +1690

    "they used 5 notes that are not even ours..... claim that melody"
    "sir that's protected by copyright la-"
    "this is youtube who gives a shit"

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 4 роки тому +43

      ... and now we know how they lost the lawsuit.

    • @nika9479
      @nika9479 4 роки тому +2

      Best tldr ever xD

    • @karlrovey
      @karlrovey 4 роки тому +1

      @@gorkyd7912 Another artist said the same thing and started the lawsuit. He got a musicologist to lie on stand and say the line was truly unique in music (it isn't, similar lines are littered through music over the centuries). In reality, the line in question is such a basic musical figure that no one should be able to claim copyright over it.

    • @royisabau5
      @royisabau5 4 роки тому +1

      Karl Rovey it’s fraudulent all the way down

    • @DocKrazy
      @DocKrazy 4 роки тому

      Seemes pretty accurate, yes

  • @Jimmy_Johns
    @Jimmy_Johns 4 роки тому +3526

    UA-camr: *defends Warner*
    Warner: “So you have chosen... death”

  • @thomasadkins7159
    @thomasadkins7159 2 роки тому +3

    This is an example of "no good deed goes unpunished".
    No one expects to interrupt a burglary in progress and then be accused of robbery by the victim. Yet, there it is.

  • @Music-tg5is
    @Music-tg5is 3 роки тому +2439

    *Warner:* _"All your musics are belong to us!"_

    • @paolo2763
      @paolo2763 3 роки тому +37

      appropriate username

    • @afloofyvixen9514
      @afloofyvixen9514 3 роки тому +8

      You have no chance to survive take your time

    • @indridcold8433
      @indridcold8433 3 роки тому +9

      It is just like other nations muscling into China's ancestral fishing waters. The nerve of the other nations! Do they not know that China's ancestral waters extend from their shores up to 24,000 miles?

    • @jeanlue
      @jeanlue 3 роки тому +1

      Yup.

    • @randomaccount-dq1jq
      @randomaccount-dq1jq 3 роки тому +4

      Nothing screams Frivolous law suits more than U.S multi billion dollar companies.
      When they waste money the government let's them write it off on the taxes they pay instead.

  • @remboldt03
    @remboldt03 4 роки тому +4624

    So.. to summarize:
    1. You defended the company, they gave you a copyright claim
    2. They don't even have the copyrights to the song they've claimed
    3. You didn't even use their song.. .

    • @ItsAsparageese
      @ItsAsparageese 4 роки тому +386

      4. The part in question was argued by the claimants as not even being the "melody" yet they characterized it that way in the claim anyway 🤣

    • @fmager149
      @fmager149 4 роки тому +30

      Seems about right

    • @Superunstable
      @Superunstable 4 роки тому +22

      Oh the irony is so good!😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @GauerSE
      @GauerSE 4 роки тому +55

      5. they claimed their song was in the wrong part of the video

    • @swaggyp1219
      @swaggyp1219 4 роки тому +13

      Hotel trivago

  • @gabriels1163
    @gabriels1163 4 роки тому +9772

    Since they manually claimed it, it shows that you were specifically targeted and that they ignored the rules and laws in order to steal your money. Easy win lawsuit.

    • @alakani
      @alakani 4 роки тому +815

      On behalf of everyone who can't afford to defend themselves, I hope Adam pursues this

    • @gabriels1163
      @gabriels1163 4 роки тому +540

      @Ceyhun ay If there is proof that warner knowingly and illegally claimed copyright on a legal video, which there does appear to be, they are in deep shit. Doesn't matter how much money they have for lawyers.

    • @amotz561
      @amotz561 4 роки тому +290

      @@gabriels1163 You'd be surprised

    • @Andy-xd5dj
      @Andy-xd5dj 4 роки тому +46

      You will never win in a lawsuit against that

    • @gabriels1163
      @gabriels1163 4 роки тому +218

      @@Andy-xd5dj Correct, because they would settle long before it got to a court.

  • @wally99szarek
    @wally99szarek 3 роки тому +13

    This is honestly a good representation of the music industry as a whole. They want money and are willing to fuck over everyone, especially the creators, to get it.

  • @thomasfoster4091
    @thomasfoster4091 4 роки тому +763

    The irony is too much to handle. Lol 😂 “that’s our melody!!.. uh no, that’s joyful noise... Oh yeah, we meant that our melody is totally different.” Sucks that UA-camrs have so little recourse.

    • @monamuller8969
      @monamuller8969 4 роки тому +12

      I just ask myself are they really that dumb or do they think they can get away with it.

    • @GlidingBoulder
      @GlidingBoulder 4 роки тому +4

      @@monamuller8969 if they can make money, they'd sell happy ending socks to a sock factory.

    • @VolleyballHighlights2024
      @VolleyballHighlights2024 4 роки тому

      this is not irony...it's contradiction...they're just stupid

    • @simplig1272
      @simplig1272 4 роки тому +3

      @@monamuller8969 they know they can get away with it. warner chapel and other music copyright holders pump big money into yt to defend their copyrights, which in turn rigs the scales toward the copyright claimers rather than the content creators, who has hard time even getting someone from yt to review the claim. and even if a claim is found to be baseless the ad money for that time when it was claimed is already in the claimers pocket.

    • @monamuller8969
      @monamuller8969 4 роки тому +2

      @@simplig1272 They don´t have to return the money they falsely claimed? So in other words they make money in claiming copyrights. Doesn´t matter if the song was really in the video. 😐

  • @martinkunev
    @martinkunev 4 роки тому +1133

    I don't think companies face any consequences for a wrongful claim of "copyright". They can just attack anybody and get away with it. Best case - they get some money, worst case - nothing changes.

    • @johncrowerdoe5527
      @johncrowerdoe5527 4 роки тому +57

      There used to be US laws about "copyright misuse" and penalties for false millenium copyright strikes. But enforcement is severely lacking, with the deviant UA-cam system further dilutes the law.

    • @waterandafter
      @waterandafter 4 роки тому +7

      @@johncrowerdoe5527
      Gotta pay a lawyer if you want to sue.

    • @johncrowerdoe5527
      @johncrowerdoe5527 4 роки тому +7

      @@waterandafter Petty cash is not a real punishment.

    • @HughNeutron
      @HughNeutron 4 роки тому +23

      John Crower Doe Not to mention these massive corporations have massive legal teams on payroll already. They're literally losing money if they're not actively suing people.

    • @espurrseyes42
      @espurrseyes42 4 роки тому +17

      You CAN take a copyright claim up to the courts and sue the company, but the majority of people don't have money to throw around on lawsuits let alone the time and patience to deal with the hassle of setting up a lawsuit. That's the only reason companies can just false claim YTers and not get in trouble for it. Even if the drop the claim later, it doesn't matter since they still get your ad money up until that point. YT or the courts definitely need to set up a system to make the claimants not get any of the revenue while the claim is being challenged and to make the companies pay back said revenue if they drop the claim.

  • @rontarrant
    @rontarrant 4 роки тому +1017

    Lesson to take away from this: never trust a corporation.

    • @beaconofwierd1883
      @beaconofwierd1883 4 роки тому +37

      Why would you ever trust a machine designed to maximize profit? It’s literally designed to run you over and turn your remains into money.

    • @patrickbodine6010
      @patrickbodine6010 4 роки тому +1

      Corporate lawyers.

    • @deoxal7947
      @deoxal7947 4 роки тому +4

      *Never trust a service you're not paying for and is closed source

    • @deoxal7947
      @deoxal7947 4 роки тому +1

      @@beaconofwierd1883 no

    • @beaconofwierd1883
      @beaconofwierd1883 4 роки тому +6

      Deoxal so you trust the light industry to not rig their lamps to break early? Or your phone company not to change charger just to force you to pay more? Or your pharmasutical company not to get you hooked on their drug? Or your aircraft manifacturer not to skip tests? All of these are services you pay for, all of these are examples of how coorporations screw you over to make an extra dollar, in some of the cases even literally kill people to get that cash.
      Fortunatley the government steps in sometimes, but this is not a bug in the coorporation, it is the desired feature: profit above all else.

  • @dougrorison1211
    @dougrorison1211 2 роки тому +6

    I am with you Adam. I too have had a copyright claim on one of my videos for playing a well known melody of a pop song on my guitar in the Australian bush! I don't make any money from my videos at all but once again big business will rake up even more profits from any ad revenue that might be generated. I was actually pleased that what I played was actually recognised!! My guitar playing must be improving!! What a world we now live in eh?

  • @tttiiny
    @tttiiny 4 роки тому +140

    the phrase "it really do be a bruh moment" works so well in this situation

  • @AdamTheBen
    @AdamTheBen 2 роки тому +1

    OMFG man returning here after your new copyright video to remember the lawsuits and omg I'm speechless by how stupid/ironic this is xD

  • @fisgust
    @fisgust 4 роки тому +1366

    Physical manifestation of "It hurt it self in it's confusion".

    • @cassiopiao1910
      @cassiopiao1910 4 роки тому +9

      Hahahahahah perfect comment

    • @zigfaust
      @zigfaust 3 роки тому

      BRUH

    • @chrisb.7787
      @chrisb.7787 3 роки тому +7

      Come on charmillion I know your not that stupid. Use fire punch. Chamillionaire hurt itself in it's confusion. Charmillion has fainted. O come on throws Gameboy 😒.

    • @viardent8823
      @viardent8823 3 роки тому +1

      they hurt themselves into stealing thousands of dollars?

    • @mannequin1832
      @mannequin1832 3 роки тому

      Im effin dead bruh LOL

  • @Minecraft10892
    @Minecraft10892 4 роки тому +1734

    Just take them to court, they dont have a track record of winning

    • @neonLegend3003
      @neonLegend3003 4 роки тому +54

      Jlsajfj They... They actually do. They won a lot of lawsuits, for example Katy Perry’s song and Mumbo Jumbo’s intro. But who cares they already removed the copyright claim

    • @imaginative6315
      @imaginative6315 4 роки тому +53

      @@neonLegend3003 Those were not lawsuits

    • @flamo2666
      @flamo2666 4 роки тому +14

      neon The legend those aren’t lawsuits my dude.

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat 4 роки тому +6

      track record of winning? Im sure they have claimed ownership of one.

    • @Minecraft10892
      @Minecraft10892 4 роки тому +1

      Nekogami-Crystal wins, this is my favourite

  • @TheLaxOne
    @TheLaxOne 4 роки тому +852

    This here is some level 7 spicy copyright nonsense

    • @MaddesG1
      @MaddesG1 4 роки тому +10

      They dont deserve actual musicians support for their musical productions in song writing

    • @linussundstrom1
      @linussundstrom1 4 роки тому +7

      Warner Bros coming through with that Freeform Avant-garde Copyright Claiming 🔥🔥🔥

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 4 роки тому

      Or Karma? 🤣 Defend the devil.

  • @asifishan1221
    @asifishan1221 3 роки тому +3

    This is the most biggest and the weirdest betrayal of all time

  • @Anans1_Spyd3r
    @Anans1_Spyd3r 4 роки тому +3901

    They should be a penalty for false strikes. Also that employee who did the manual strike should be penalized
    EDIT: While I have everyone's Attention: I think UA-camrs should have a collective moment of silence with a shared hashtag to bring attention to this gross abuse of the system. A few seconds each video.

    • @CocoWantsACracker
      @CocoWantsACracker 4 роки тому +131

      People make mistakes. If you want to single out the employee as the culprit, you're opening the door to their (proven antisocial) company to fire them and try to get credit for having dealt with the issue so promptly and drastically. Therefore, this should be entirely on the company as a whole and its policies being all kinds of wrong, regardless which of their representatives filed the claim.

    • @Anans1_Spyd3r
      @Anans1_Spyd3r 4 роки тому +171

      @@CocoWantsACracker I would agree with you except it is very clear they did not watch the entire video for the context. If they did a proper investigation they wouldn't have the same faulty outcome

    • @user-lo7pe8cj4h
      @user-lo7pe8cj4h 4 роки тому +75

      @@CocoWantsACracker people make mistakes but this looks like carelessness/lack of training. I'm not a professional and i could instantly tell that it wasn't dark horse. if it's their job they shouldn't make mistakes like this especially on this video where its relevant to a court case, it should've been handled with more care i believe x

    • @chaddaifouche536
      @chaddaifouche536 4 роки тому +34

      @@CocoWantsACracker Well, the legal penalty (which should definitely exist !!!) should be for the corporation no doubt and shouldn't be concerned with the employee... but the corporation should probably penalize the employee (I'm not used to defending corporations... this feels weird) since given the history exposed by Adam, the legal team was aware and supportive of the video, so the decision to *manually* claim on this video (for Joyful Noise 9 s part of the background...) had to be a stupid mistake. Now if the guy was new he may not deserve to be fired, but he should definitely be told never to make such a frivolous claim again.

    • @NerdGlassGamingPA
      @NerdGlassGamingPA 4 роки тому +1

      and the company too

  • @JenniferSnaps
    @JenniferSnaps 4 роки тому +2873

    Dude, what really pisses me off about this is the fact that you don't need to have musical knowledge to comprehend that part isn't Dark Horse, you just have to pay attention to the video.

    • @Thebigcoffee
      @Thebigcoffee 3 роки тому +27

      The video reminded me of the time my family was so insistent that Katy Perry was wrong upon finding out what was happening

    • @0Clewi0
      @0Clewi0 3 роки тому +17

      They probably outsource people to do this manually, they wouldn't be paying attention and probably try to find the first part it happens

    • @turt4533
      @turt4533 3 роки тому +7

      no way someone can be this stupid... right?
      I was hoping that maybe youtube's shitty algorithm picked it up and told warner about it and they just listened to the clip without actually watching the video and said "yeah thats dark horse alright!".

    • @tonymouannes
      @tonymouannes 2 роки тому +6

      @@0Clewi0 but that doesn't justify it. The moment you mention that you are playing someone's else a music, fair use allows you to play it for a few seconds. No justification needed. So the fact that they are mentioned in the title and the extract is only a couple seconds long, is enough not to claim it.

    • @0Clewi0
      @0Clewi0 2 роки тому +2

      @@tonymouannes but the person is just doing the job requested to them to do, of course the company is acting like an industrial fishing boat that uses double nets to catch fish smaller than it's allowed, I'm not depending them. It's like blaming the barista for coffee being hugely unethical.

  • @oddarneroll
    @oddarneroll 4 роки тому +2381

    This behavior of the industry makes me want to pirate music, just for the he'll of it.

    • @hekkn
      @hekkn 4 роки тому +128

      He'll

    • @ccelik97
      @ccelik97 4 роки тому +164

      I do "pirate" everything that's for my personal use and I don't give a damn about it really, the big "production" companies can sux my ass for being what they are. The only times I kind of try to pay back is when there's a unique idea by some honest individuals and that mostly happens in the form of an open source app/service; not anything off of netflix or spotify may I say.
      Oh and I block ads(&anti adblockers) and trackers wherever and whenever I can and it works really well.

    • @JohnnyHotovson
      @JohnnyHotovson 4 роки тому +33

      @@ccelik97 dare I say it, based?

    • @ccelik97
      @ccelik97 4 роки тому +8

      @@JohnnyHotovson I don't understand your question.

    • @JohnnyHotovson
      @JohnnyHotovson 4 роки тому +26

      @@ccelik97 it's just a dumb meme, basically I called you a cool guy :D I have the same mindset as you about this

  • @OwOraTheWitch
    @OwOraTheWitch 2 роки тому

    Warner: "Someone help me! It's so hard to walk with this bullet hole in my foot"

  • @gregggo
    @gregggo 4 роки тому +1987

    Here is an idea: add strike system for people claiming videos - if their claim gets proven to be wrong, and the video being fair use, after 3 strikes certain entity (person or company) can not do copyright claims anymore, assuming that they abuse the copyright system or do inaccurate analysis in purpose to steal as much money as they can from UA-cam content creators.
    Making only one side accountable (as it currently is) is a recipe for abuse.

    • @gregggo
      @gregggo 4 роки тому +195

      ​@@DingDingTheUA-camBuddy
      Why would you have to prove malicious intent? It`s like asking someone who stole your wallet, was it in purpose to make you feel bad, or just to get some extra money. Intent is a subjective thing.
      The thing is it doesn't even matter whether someone intends on copyrighting anything he can to get more money or not - because even if someone doesn't and simply made mistake, this means it was inaccurate analysis... other words, that person didn't even put enough effort to make sure it's correct, which results in harming content creators and their work.
      You have to understand that it's a job for many of those people, so it's a serious thing... it's not just some random forum reporting system, where you can make a new account and nickname or just leave it, and it wouldn't affect your livelihood.

    • @thepinkestpigglet7529
      @thepinkestpigglet7529 4 роки тому +24

      That wouldn't work three mistakes doesn't mean they should loose the ability to defend their copyright should an actual infringement occur.
      Also to understand people don't usually make copyright claims it's usally bots

    • @gregggo
      @gregggo 4 роки тому +76

      @@thepinkestpigglet7529
      It would obviously apply only to manual copyright claims, like the one shown in the video above. It shows very well, that these companies don't really care and just try to get as much money as they can. Even if it's not all of them, this video (and many more i've seen in the past about this topic) show there is a problem which needs solution. As for "automatic copyright claims" i'm not sure how it works exactly, but if it doesn't require a person to confirm it, it should be required to confirm by the entity which would claim rights to it, and then automatically turn into "manual claim" - since they were given the chance to judge the content in the video.
      Consider this... you put a lot of work into creating content, and someone claims rights to its monetization based on few seconds in your clip which basically contains a lot more of your actual content - which essentially means they steal your copyrighted content.
      So how otherwise would you protect your copyright? This is a publishing website, not a court, and if UA-cam content creators need only 3 strikes to be taken down, why should it not apply to the other side the same way? If someone is abusing certain feature, he shouldn't have access to it.
      I recommend you watching these videos, to show you how broken this system is:
      ua-cam.com/video/ieErnZAN5Eo/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/Mz14Ul-r63w/v-deo.html

    • @shaunmark1
      @shaunmark1 4 роки тому +17

      Wouldn't work, UA-cam would lose a ton of money when the first lawsuit sprang. Your intent is good, but you would need to put a lot more thought into this.

    • @gregggo
      @gregggo 4 роки тому +5

      @@shaunmark1 What lawsuit?

  • @Celastrous
    @Celastrous 4 роки тому +817

    This is insane, this sounds like a joke with how many layers of ridiculous this has in it

    • @joestinson99
      @joestinson99 4 роки тому +11

      Sean Demers I first read this comment as “many lawyers of ridiculousness” and that seemed perfectly appropriate.

    • @autumnhd
      @autumnhd 4 роки тому

      how many layers of irony are you on
      like, maybe 5 or 6 right now, my dude
      you are like a baby, watch this
      SUCC

    • @natchu96
      @natchu96 4 роки тому

      I feel like corporations do stupid things to their own detriment every other day these days, it's hard for me to be surprised...

  • @RickStewart1776
    @RickStewart1776 4 роки тому +779

    Imagine the same set of principles applied to woodworking.
    Patent Office: "I'm sorry sir, you cannot saw notches into a board, apply glue, then clamps on two pieces of wood to form a 90 degree angle. This technique is patented."

    • @domninin
      @domninin 4 роки тому +20

      Well that is actually how patents work lmao, the only difference is that patents aren't held forever but copyright is

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez 4 роки тому +59

      @@domninin Actually - that's NOT how patents work. I have five patents, I understand the process. If there is "prior art" in the area you cannot patent the prior art. You have to prove how what you're doing is different than the prior art, or how what you're doing changes or improves the prior art and then you can patent the "new" (novel) technology improvements - you just can't claim the prior art portion. In the case of gluing boards together to make a 90-degree joint, there is demonstrated prior art in that field going back thousands of years - patent application denied.

    • @RickStewart1776
      @RickStewart1776 4 роки тому +12

      @@domninin I understand, but they don't apply to any hand-made items that I can think of. Yes, you can patent a particular look design of a chair, but you cannot patent the joinery of a chair. Dovetails are not patentable. I put forward that certain parts of music should also not be patentable.

    • @thomyohansen3961
      @thomyohansen3961 4 роки тому +19

      Dominik T copyright does expire some 100 years+- after it’s created/author died. See free distribution of every Shakespeare play. Basically anything published before 1924 is public domain now.

    • @domninin
      @domninin 4 роки тому +5

      @@buckhorncortez well the same applies to copyright too. You can't copyright an instrument or a specific sound or a Melody that existed before, but you can copyright new melodies

  • @angrykermit3192
    @angrykermit3192 2 роки тому

    Warner Music was like "Hey, thanks for having our backs on the whole Dark Horse thing. Now give me your lunch money"

  • @MLing-q5x
    @MLing-q5x 4 роки тому +468

    Watch, this video will be claimed as copyright for 3:06-3:09 for the use of dark horses melody

    • @hakancarlsson2881
      @hakancarlsson2881 4 роки тому +7

      Well if they were serious about the first one they kind of have to. .. Stupid as hell of course....

    • @jagasvara
      @jagasvara 4 роки тому +4

      claimception

    • @TheNinnyfee
      @TheNinnyfee 4 роки тому +1

      By the company that LOST the lawsuit and now claims money for other people's music.

    • @serzjuh79
      @serzjuh79 4 роки тому +2

      Ever heard MOMENTS IN LOVE by Artful Noise? Song from 80's

  • @kylezo
    @kylezo 4 роки тому +1628

    I think these frivolous claims, like frivolous lawsuits, should be actionable. They caused actual harm by forcing you to deal with a fraudulent claim.

    • @gedalyahreback2133
      @gedalyahreback2133 4 роки тому +144

      They are actionable, but the legal maneuver is expensive for a lot of people. A quick-counter-claims court to deal with these things, now with so many low-resource artists and creators, should be available to contest frivolous copyright claims.

    • @sofakingonmynuts1438
      @sofakingonmynuts1438 4 роки тому +12

      @@gedalyahreback2133 Then these corp fuks will push the lawsuit all the way to supreme court, the whole time both sides pay to be there and the loser pays everyone back

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 3 роки тому +15

      @@JumboCod91 oh, sweet sweet summer child.

    • @Ed-1749
      @Ed-1749 3 роки тому +4

      @@JumboCod91 yes, but will he be able to convince a lawyer to go against warner?

    • @Posiman
      @Posiman 3 роки тому +3

      Lindsay Ellis has a video with Devin from LegalEagle on counter-claims.

  • @laurynastruskauskas6586
    @laurynastruskauskas6586 4 роки тому +310

    Imagine if they claimed this video too for the same 10seconds...

  • @saltypork101
    @saltypork101 2 роки тому +2

    The music industry: "make profit not friends"
    Former friends of the music industry: "well ok then"

  • @rachelplummer4579
    @rachelplummer4579 3 роки тому +533

    This kinda reminds me of the time my dad pulled over to help someone who was just hit by a car and when the victim was asked to identify the car that hit him, he pointed to my dad’s car

    • @silic8873
      @silic8873 3 роки тому +69

      Did another car hit him again?

    • @showermeincrushedbathroomt4067
      @showermeincrushedbathroomt4067 3 роки тому +15

      @@zylve2520 Agreed

    • @thankyouverymuch
      @thankyouverymuch 3 роки тому +120

      Hopefully your dad's car didn't coincidentally have damage on it that matched the other car's damage, so it should have been clear to the legal folks that it couldn't have been your dad.

    • @littlefox_100
      @littlefox_100 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly

    • @zeldafan5515
      @zeldafan5515 3 роки тому +33

      What a piece of dog shit , that "victim" is horrible

  • @StevenViets2006
    @StevenViets2006 4 роки тому +722

    This is the same company that claimed every single one of Mumbo Jumbo's videos for like a 1 second clip of a non copyrighted song because the creator of the non copyrighted song used a fraction of a second long noise thats from another copyrighted song even know it's literally unnoticeable to the ear

    • @NekuroMC
      @NekuroMC 3 роки тому +51

      which mumbo jumbo the Minecraft youtuber?

    • @renzallen8251
      @renzallen8251 3 роки тому +42

      @@NekuroMC yes

    • @BuzzaB77
      @BuzzaB77 3 роки тому +10

      Doesn't matter how long the sample was, a sample is still a sample.

    • @crashbash8549
      @crashbash8549 3 роки тому +158

      @@BuzzaB77 actually it does matter

    • @frozenweevil4022
      @frozenweevil4022 3 роки тому +79

      @@BuzzaB77 Actually the FTC begs to differ

  • @darkjanggo
    @darkjanggo 4 роки тому +1540

    Ironic. He could save others from copyright claims, but not himself.

    • @Mistersheeaun
      @Mistersheeaun 4 роки тому +62

      Is it possible to learn this power

    • @phigibo
      @phigibo 4 роки тому +74

      "i can guide others to a treasure I cannot posses"

    • @williamle1884
      @williamle1884 4 роки тому +20

      tbf he couldn't, since Joyful still won the lawsuit but he tried lmao

    • @alenemakrush5057
      @alenemakrush5057 4 роки тому +3

      @@phigibo literally watching infinity war rn 👌👌

    • @cliffw.bowman1589
      @cliffw.bowman1589 4 роки тому +15

      @@Mistersheeaun
      Not from a Jedi.

  • @JonatasAdoM
    @JonatasAdoM 2 роки тому

    I have never forgotten about that video and 2 years later UA-cam recommends me a sequel.

  • @arthurfranklin9315
    @arthurfranklin9315 4 роки тому +501

    "Some scientists claim that Hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more Stupidity than Hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa

    • @johnthompson1928
      @johnthompson1928 4 роки тому +18

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

    • @arthurfranklin9315
      @arthurfranklin9315 4 роки тому +11

      LOL, don't use the Einstein quote! He never said it, so it's an example of Stupidity. (Misinformation spread since the '90s at least)

    • @johnthompson1928
      @johnthompson1928 4 роки тому +12

      @@arthurfranklin9315 Frederick S. Perls wrote a book called "Gestalt Therapy Verbatim" published in 1969 saying Einstein said that quote to him.

    • @topcat8804
      @topcat8804 4 роки тому +3

      I just claimed the copyright to hydrogen, so you owe me.

    • @helugoconache
      @helugoconache 4 роки тому

      Actually Zappa fighted warner bros as well

  • @lewis2916
    @lewis2916 4 роки тому +779

    “Warner stole Joyful Noise”
    “No I didn’t”
    “Yes you did”
    “Fine, but now I’m going to steal Joyful Noise again from someone else”

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron 4 роки тому +4

      no joy FOR YOU

    • @TheGalacticWest
      @TheGalacticWest 4 роки тому +1

      @@chronosschiron Sad noise.

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron 4 роки тому

      @@TheGalacticWest
      stop using any of there shit im getting sick of people that use stuff thats too simular or what not get original and drop it into content id and prob solved
      1100 vids and no claims or strikes
      have a nice day

    • @TheGalacticWest
      @TheGalacticWest 4 роки тому +2

      @@chronosschiron what are you on about

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron 4 роки тому

      @@TheGalacticWest
      what are you on ?

  • @zacredington4776
    @zacredington4776 4 роки тому +155

    The individual responsible for that claim should lose their job.
    Jesus Christ what an embarrassment.

    • @tiagodarkpeasant
      @tiagodarkpeasant 4 роки тому +9

      lose his job for doing his job ? it is stupid, but that is what his business tells him to do, when a fake claim is all it takes and there is zero repercutions why even care ?

    • @toby-jeanne_almy
      @toby-jeanne_almy 4 роки тому +3

      Thank you. This $h*t-for-brainz employee needs to be assigned to the company mail route. Perhaps that would suit their skill set better. Zero competence.

    • @ModMINI
      @ModMINI 4 роки тому +3

      This is absolute total incompetence. A call to the PR department should fix this fast. (Note - the company dropped their claim, probably after someone there was told about the terrible publicity)

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky 4 роки тому +1

      @@toby-jeanne_almy You assume they actually work directly for the publisher. This crap is probably outsourced, like some Fiver gig.

    • @toby-jeanne_almy
      @toby-jeanne_almy 4 роки тому +1

      @@crnkmnky 🤣🤣🤣 honestly.. that's probably the truth the way that business is running. Fivver law students running the case, and fivver $.50 hourly workers copyright claiming everyone. Gotta keep that coin!😂

  • @juliettedemaso7588
    @juliettedemaso7588 2 роки тому

    Warner: This riff isn’t copyrighted material!
    Also Warner: This riff is copyrighted material!

  • @Narf030
    @Narf030 4 роки тому +1643

    Someone get this over to Legal Eagle, I'd like to see what he has to say about it

  • @nostaticatall
    @nostaticatall 4 роки тому +436

    The music industry is bound and determined to kill itself. No one seems to know why.

    • @walterhicks5520
      @walterhicks5520 4 роки тому +15

      LMAO,...fucking stop. Have you actually LISTENED to todays 'entertainers'? Pimps, drug dealers and pedophiles. ALL of them. "No one seems to know why?" They're criminals/whores and addicts first and foremost, not 'entertainers' but as a secondary source of income.

    • @jasoncarto
      @jasoncarto 4 роки тому +5

      Because idiots keep pumping life into it. LET. IT. DIE.

    • @nostaticatall
      @nostaticatall 4 роки тому +11

      @@walterhicks5520 That's because most of the newer talent has figured out that they can make a living at this on their own and aren't using big labels. What I don't understand is why the industry insists on trying to keep people from appreciating and being exposed to the older stuff when guys like Adam Neely and Rick Beato are using it for teaching purposes and in the process basically doing the best kind of promotion imaginable for the very product they're supposedly trying to sell. They've lost their minds. they deserve to go down but it's a shame that younger people aren't being exposed to some quality music because of these dinosaurs.

    • @benjaminshields9421
      @benjaminshields9421 4 роки тому +3

      No way in hell itll kill itself. Maybe in your social bubble, but almost everyone else listens to new music and artists.

    • @nostaticatall
      @nostaticatall 4 роки тому +4

      @@benjaminshields9421 LOL! My "social bubble"?It's got nothing to do with me. Do you realize how much the industry has diminished in sales since it's height in the late 90s? It's widely known. The information is out there. People working IN THE INDUSTRY acknowledge this and lament it, frequently.

  • @Teguvas
    @Teguvas 4 роки тому +499

    I have patented and claimed every "A" note. You can't play an "A" even in a chord without paying me, also that is my frequency. I have a patent pending for the timing too :P

    • @AussieCleetus
      @AussieCleetus 4 роки тому +17

      440 Hz or 432 Hz?

    • @candle_eatist
      @candle_eatist 4 роки тому +7

      @@AussieCleetus 20hz - 20,000hz can be A

    • @AussieCleetus
      @AussieCleetus 4 роки тому +12

      @@candle_eatist I hereby redefine all frequencies to the note A for purposes of this thread

    • @candle_eatist
      @candle_eatist 4 роки тому +3

      And for money..... Yea that too

    • @TakaComics
      @TakaComics 4 роки тому +8

      I have slightly detuned all of my guitar strings.

  • @TwinShards
    @TwinShards 2 роки тому +1

    Warner: Hippity Hoppity
    Every sound in the Universe is now my property.

  • @guyonyoutube1803
    @guyonyoutube1803 4 роки тому +721

    "I’m fed up with the idiots… the ever-widening gap between people who know how to make movies and the people who green-light the movies" - Sean Connery
    Now just apply this to the music industry. They don't know the difference between one note and another. They just know the difference between a 20$ bill and a 100$ bill.

    • @TaeKwonHottie
      @TaeKwonHottie 4 роки тому +5

      One's trash and the other is toilet paper?

    • @dnmr
      @dnmr 4 роки тому +1

      one can only buy two bananas

    • @Momoka7
      @Momoka7 4 роки тому

      Yeah, pencil pushers that only try to optimize $ flushing back. And mind you, not only bringing back as much $ to cover the initial costs plus bonus ... the bonus has to be as as high as the original costs ... so doubling(or better tripling) the money ...

    • @Lidoi1
      @Lidoi1 4 роки тому

      80$

    • @guyonyoutube1803
      @guyonyoutube1803 4 роки тому

      @@Momoka7 Exactly!

  • @DJKingArthur
    @DJKingArthur 4 роки тому +2681

    DEAR UA-cam: Why a youtuber lost 100% of royalties IF the “copyright claim” is ONLY for 15 seconds of a 9 minute video ??? Here is an idea for you. EXAMPLE: IF 15 Seconds in a 9 minute video represent a 2.7% Then you should split the royalties of the video the same way. UA-camr retains 97.2% of royalties of his video and the “ company “ gets the 2.7% THAT IS FAIR RIGHT?

    • @LegoEddy
      @LegoEddy 4 роки тому +35

      How does this comment only have 4 likes?!

    • @LornWandrr
      @LornWandrr 4 роки тому +89

      @@LegoEddy Because 97.2 + 2.7 amount to 99.9, not 100. You're welcome ;-p

    • @lastanetaarion
      @lastanetaarion 4 роки тому +144

      @@LornWandrr 0,1% goes to YT :P.

    • @lastanetaarion
      @lastanetaarion 4 роки тому +64

      You're absolutely right. But you would have to use your brain and in corporations they have none :D ;). For them simple percentages are on the level of quantum physics equations, lol...

    • @LegoEddy
      @LegoEddy 4 роки тому +45

      @@lastanetaarion that's way too oversimplified and you know that. It is not constructive for the discussion. I guess it may be that google was just forced by the licensors. They probably just said "either you give us 100% or we dont allow you do use any of our stuff"

  • @smitisan4984
    @smitisan4984 4 роки тому +662

    So Warner is getting ad revenue for Joyful Noises's "melody?" He should sue them.

    • @Lefers94
      @Lefers94 4 роки тому +20

      UA-cam holds the revenue for claimed videos and only gives the money the creator or claimant once the claim has been resolved one way or another. So Warner didn't make any money off this. It's another story if they claim it and disable adds, but that apparently didn't happen here.

    • @zonkedmc
      @zonkedmc 4 роки тому +2

      there's an update in the comments

    • @Fex.
      @Fex. 4 роки тому

      He doesn't hold the copyright for Joyful Noises -melody so that's not gonna happen.

    • @bobdownes162
      @bobdownes162 4 роки тому

      Never 'take on' Big Companies.The proces could take years and years to resolve, and your pockets would be well empty.
      They would most likely have about 20 Lawyers handling their case .

    • @gondolaone7748
      @gondolaone7748 4 роки тому +6

      @@Lefers94 they actually do make money in the period that it's claimed since it's often 'resolved' before the creator can do anything. UA-cam favors the big companies and publishers so the creator only gets revenue from the point after which the video has been 'reclaimed'. To get the revenue from the claimed period back you would have to start legal actions and that's too expensive to be fruitful. That's how they make money. That's why there are whole companies that just claim thousands of videos every day on behalf of big publishers. Never underestimate the greed of big companies. Given the opportunity they will screw you over for a few bucks.

  • @drewdabbs418
    @drewdabbs418 2 роки тому

    This has to be some intern trolling while the boss is having lunch

  • @Downhillknight
    @Downhillknight 4 роки тому +444

    Anyone: *breaths*
    Warner Chappell: “is that copyright infringement I hear?”

    • @chromaslighthouse8211
      @chromaslighthouse8211 4 роки тому +5

      Brian mcdermott *i smell copyright*

    • @Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood
      @Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood 4 роки тому +5

      Katy Perry breathed in our music video so we own the copyright!

    • @ottovonbismarck5007
      @ottovonbismarck5007 4 роки тому +1

      Brian mcdermott you have a loicence for that oxygen?

    • @Panzer_Runner
      @Panzer_Runner 4 роки тому +1

      Content used : Breathing
      Content found during : 0:00 - 0:00
      Copyright owners : Fucking Warner

    • @w3irdn3rd
      @w3irdn3rd 4 роки тому +3

      Sounds a lot like you just sampled 4′33″ !

  • @shikhorwahed
    @shikhorwahed 4 роки тому +223

    Writers dream of coming up with this amount of irony in a story.

    • @feyasatos
      @feyasatos 4 роки тому +9

      As an aspiring author, that is 100% correct

    • @Arma070
      @Arma070 4 роки тому +3

      You can't make this shit up XD

  • @JoaoRenatoBail
    @JoaoRenatoBail 4 роки тому +147

    That's exactly why the music industry is completely dead. Honestly, this system is completely broken

  • @switch1e
    @switch1e Рік тому +1

    Copyright law is such a scam. I've dealt with tons of phony claims like this before. It's absurd.

  • @dougsholly9323
    @dougsholly9323 4 роки тому +314

    The whole copyright system in UA-cam is a complete disaster. The problem is, through fear of being responsible for even a single copyright violation through inaction, their policies and procedures guarantee this kind of nonsense.

    • @hotpenguin607
      @hotpenguin607 4 роки тому +8

      And companies actually hire ppl whose duty is to abuse THIS system on UA-cam,c laim all the videos and fuck up ppl who are using those materials for fair use

    • @louisvictor3473
      @louisvictor3473 4 роки тому +5

      The system has two purposes, and two purposes only: make google not have to waste money or time fighting rich people on court (i.e. people who can actually afford a proper legal battle with google), and assure google will never be even accused of being liable for anything should such a large player actually take them to court. Ensuring fairness or that all parties abide by the actual law isn't even on the list.

    • @CTSSTC
      @CTSSTC 4 роки тому +2

      They probably pay someone minimum wage or a 3rd world country to file these claims,, then they make money off of it. They can't afford not to at least try and get that free money that others have worked so hard on : [

    • @nicknomski8399
      @nicknomski8399 4 роки тому

      Google has a special relationship with Sony, Warner-Chappel et al.
      You get carte blanche and we all get rich.

  • @doctorhouse4961
    @doctorhouse4961 4 роки тому +483

    I'm waiting for the sequel to this when Warner Bros claims this video because you played "their melody" at 3:06 lmao

    • @aonodensetsu
      @aonodensetsu 4 роки тому +43

      wrong warner but it makes this comment funnier

    • @NinjarioPicmin
      @NinjarioPicmin 4 роки тому +20

      lmao warner bros

    • @evilhutdug4665
      @evilhutdug4665 4 роки тому

      Doctor House It ain’t Warner Bros man, they don’t make music

  • @WelshSwordsman
    @WelshSwordsman 4 роки тому +1024

    "If you let the snake free, it will come back to bite you the next day." - Chinese Proverb

    • @acccident3349
      @acccident3349 4 роки тому +15

      I think that chinese story about the farmer saving a snake life and it biting him fits more... Unless that's exactly the story that you are talking about

    • @keithvickers6183
      @keithvickers6183 4 роки тому +3

      @@acccident3349 Fuckin' A

    • @MarcV_IndieGameDev
      @MarcV_IndieGameDev 4 роки тому +2

      "Better to set the snake free, then wait for it to come back the next day, so you can bite it" +1 on snake mofo! - crazy UA-cam man

  • @stevenharder308
    @stevenharder308 2 роки тому

    Another layer of irony: their confusion sort of buries your original defense (of them).

  • @crazygamecrafter8830
    @crazygamecrafter8830 3 роки тому +343

    remember when mumbo jumbo got 400+ videos claimed for a 4 second clip at the start of each video he used with permission because it used a drum sample from warner?

    • @tilsgee
      @tilsgee 3 роки тому +47

      Shit. This is getting out of hand.
      Imagine playing some notes that sounds like David guetta's music.
      And still get claimed. Even if you play it accidentally

    • @A2ne
      @A2ne 3 роки тому +60

      technically warner was legally in the right, which in my opinion, highlights just how dumb the laws surrounding this are

    • @ahreuwu
      @ahreuwu 3 роки тому +11

      Tom Scott briefly went over this in his copyright video. Basically, Warner was correct and they had the rights to the music, because the producer that Mumbo had asked permission for was actually sampling a song from Warner, so the permission that Mumbo had didn't have any validity and Warner has the copyright.

    • @brown56765
      @brown56765 3 роки тому +49

      Actually, the person who produced the music had payed WC to use the sample in his song, then Mumbo payed the producer to use the song. So Mumbo had a legal right to use that sample in the context of the song and WC's claim was invalid.
      But UA-cam's copyright system is so f**ked that WC doesn't need to do 5 minutes of research to make sure they didn't sell that sample before claiming all the ad revenue from 400+ videos they have no right to...

    • @marcodvbr8641
      @marcodvbr8641 3 роки тому +3

      THE WANT THE MUMBOOO MONEEEEYYYYYYYY

  • @ronhans6678
    @ronhans6678 4 роки тому +816

    Simple summary: Adam tried helped Warner. Instead of thanks he got stabbed in his back.

  • @drcanoro
    @drcanoro 4 роки тому +1183

    so.. Katy Perry team is saying that in fact, they did infringe in Flame's copyright?

    • @leen3942
      @leen3942 4 роки тому +17

      Holy

    • @Mnomphalos
      @Mnomphalos 4 роки тому +55

      Yup, and they put it in writing.

    • @enricosantini3154
      @enricosantini3154 4 роки тому +9

      legally they did maybe it was just an ironic thing to do also choosing the wrong "melody"

    • @casym5921
      @casym5921 4 роки тому +49

      Well, considering the time frame flagged depicts Joyful Noise's melody and not Dark Horse. I think really what they're claiming is that Joyful Noise copied Dark Horse 6 years before Dark Horse was published. lol

    • @kslavvko
      @kslavvko 4 роки тому +21

      @@enricosantini3154 don't use the word "ironic" because the Alanis Moriset's people will come and claim your comment too :D

  • @ErikBernhardt
    @ErikBernhardt 2 роки тому

    "I never thought the company of face eating leopards would eat MY face!"

  • @cigmorfil4101
    @cigmorfil4101 4 роки тому +2151

    This "copyright strike" is clear evidence that Warner did infringe: they claim directly that the extremely short section you used to show the observation from the earlier work is part of their work; in other words they are admitting it was copied in to their work and reinforcing their defeat in the copyright lawsuit.
    I hope you pointed this out to UA-cam.
    You may not be worried about the loss of ad revenue, but corporations only look at one thing: money.
    Corporations need to learn the meaning of "don't bit the hand that feed you."
    Unfortunately, it is more than just copyright infringement now.
    They have gained pecuniary advantage through false representation - they have gained your ad revenue (the pecuniary advantage) by claiming the section of your video which is from an earlier work as theirs (false representation with the copyright lawsuit loss showing it and this adding extra proof of that lawsuit loss and evidence against any appeal) - ie they have committed *FRAUD.*
    I'm sure that is something the SEC would be interested in.

    • @ajgamingfun
      @ajgamingfun 4 роки тому +84

      Oh, the SEC would probably LOVE to hear about this one

    • @ItsDomke
      @ItsDomke 4 роки тому +98

      @FinalEvilElpis How is that not infringing? They literally just claimed that a part of a song they do not hold copyright to was theirs. It doesn't matter at all that they did so out of sheer incompetence, they still did it.

    • @vaderbuckeye36
      @vaderbuckeye36 4 роки тому +52

      @FinalEvilElpis no matter what he says, the courts said that there was infringement, and the portion of the video cited for their claim was taken from joyful noise, which they DEFINITELY don't hold the rights to.

    • @GABE_is_here
      @GABE_is_here 4 роки тому +34

      @FinalEvilElpis the court has decided that they did infringe the copyright so blatantly claiming that part of the video is already infringing the copyright

    • @Pomme843
      @Pomme843 4 роки тому +26

      @FinalEvilElpis They infringed according to their own knowledge. If a person did what Warner Music Group did, it would be called perjury

  • @ayrondalankohlerminks6136
    @ayrondalankohlerminks6136 4 роки тому +313

    Judge: attack Warner. Joyful Noise: attack Warner. Adam: Defends Warner. Warner: attacks Adam. Warner: attacks Warner.

    • @Keznen
      @Keznen 4 роки тому +59

      Warner is confused! It hurt itself in its confusion!

    • @Tyranitar.
      @Tyranitar. 4 роки тому +15

      @@Keznen
      judge used perish song! everyone will now get sued in 3 turns!

  • @ethanchambers02
    @ethanchambers02 4 роки тому +256

    this is easily the most sympathetically frustrated i’ve ever felt

  • @ericneely8821
    @ericneely8821 2 роки тому

    WOO I randomly found another Neely...
    Edit: thanks for the vid, I liked it, keep up the good work. LOVE for the Music

  • @digilyd
    @digilyd 3 роки тому +909

    The youtube copyright engine is designed apparently with the intent of promoting frivolous claims. I have had claims against classical music recordings for violating pop songs that stole from the classical work. I have had a copyright claim for a year 17xx single flute oeuvre with an arrangers claim. Just frivolous. I have also had claims against a horse show video that just had environtal noise where music happened to be reproduced good enough for a robot to recognize it. The principle I have learned is that if it is environmental and via microophone then it constitutes environmental noise and not music in copyrightable form. I have given up. If there is a claim, I remove the video to prevent them from posting ads in my uploaded videos.

    • @AVeryRandomPerson
      @AVeryRandomPerson 3 роки тому +86

      Yep. I've been claimed for music somebody was playing in their apartment…100 feet away.

    • @Nezumi--
      @Nezumi-- 3 роки тому +52

      Twoset Violin did a video about Star Wars music which sounded like Korngold and other composers... and possibly should've been still under copyright. they laughed about it, that if they played the original piece, Disney might sue them for playing the copied music. ... for playing it.. themselves....
      There's something strange when musicians have to fear playing music because of a corporation...

    • @dominikmuller5021
      @dominikmuller5021 3 роки тому +26

      @@alansmithee419 I guess the claim didn't come from the person playing, but from the copyright holder to the song... which makes it really weird - can't record a video now my neighbor is practicing the piano...

    • @alansmithee419
      @alansmithee419 3 роки тому +7

      @@dominikmuller5021 Yes, obviously it would come from the people who wrote the music the person was playing.
      The point is it doesn't matter whether you put someone else's work in yours on purpose or by accident - it's still there either way and the same laws do and should apply.

    • @OljeiKhan
      @OljeiKhan 3 роки тому +40

      Oh my. Let me get this straight musician plays a piece of classical music , the company holding the rights to the work of a pop artist who stole bits and pieces of that classical piece gets to file a copyright claim ; AND IT GETS APPROVED?! Wtf is that?
      Honestly we should set up an independent musician's foundation and start copyrighting every single note. Oh you are a new rapper and your single has a G flat in it? How dare you steal other people's work... It also has an A? Outrageous... I hope there's no B in it.

  • @FreerunMediaService
    @FreerunMediaService 4 роки тому +341

    This is going on every day, every second of the day. I got one copyright during my audio broadcast from Fox Sports of all people. They claimed the track of the Spin doctors - Two Princes. I filed an appeal against it and they dropped it a week later but even then, this makes very clear that every company is trying to get every cent for every part of a second. It's not about the music anymore, it's all about claiming the #%$% out of everything.

    • @wilbursoderberg9533
      @wilbursoderberg9533 4 роки тому +8

      Record companies have always been about the money.

    • @joshuagrahambrown
      @joshuagrahambrown 4 роки тому +11

      I uploaded a 30 second video which had footage from Ant Man, and Disney claimed it. Fair enough, Disney owns Marvel & I used their footage.
      Except I always upload my videos as Private to begin with, and the claim was immediate - before I’d even made it viewable. How did they find my video to claim it?!

    • @geekthegirl6961
      @geekthegirl6961 4 роки тому +3

      Disgusting. They are counting on their army of bottom-feeding lawyers to intimidate you into submission, knowing full well that there's no basis for their claim. And it is never about the music for these people.

    • @dragonexpert8323
      @dragonexpert8323 4 роки тому +5

      @@joshuagrahambrown Most likely the automated Content Id system which is way overaggressive. Half the time it tries to claim my Pokemon Go videos because of background music at the mall where I play. After I beat their asses in the appeal, most companies have left me alone when I upload videos with background music now.

    • @FoxbatCS
      @FoxbatCS 4 роки тому +1

      Worse, it shows them that it is very easy for them to waste small creator's time, which I consider to be an abuse of the system in itself. They can create a chilling effect for small content creators to participate in a platform that clearly spells the end of their business model.

  • @facundocorradini
    @facundocorradini 4 роки тому +84

    This took the definition of "irony" to a whole new level.

  • @thatspaceacademydude
    @thatspaceacademydude 2 роки тому +1

    Im glad you made the video. You should have, and you have our support. Keep up the great work, and keep us updated!

  • @qwerty_and_azerty
    @qwerty_and_azerty 4 роки тому +652

    You should have posted this on the main channel. I know it’s not your “usual” content, but people need to know about this. Just as much as they need to know about the frivolous nature of these lawsuits.

    • @chroni3659
      @chroni3659 4 роки тому +21

      I didn’t even realize this wasn’t the main channel until I read this comment lol

    • @patrickleslie1991
      @patrickleslie1991 4 роки тому +17

      He doesnt want another copyright claim or possible strike on the main channel. It is probably smart to post it via this one instead.

    • @Exploshi
      @Exploshi 4 роки тому

      @The Tired Horizon why would they?

    • @matthewv789
      @matthewv789 4 роки тому +2

      exploshi Three (copyright) strikes and you’re out, on UA-cam. That’s why they call them strikes.

  • @noffpoppin
    @noffpoppin 3 роки тому +548

    This is hilarious. Warner can't tell the difference between Joyful Noise and Dark Horse, the difference between fair use and infringement, the difference between an ally and a rival.

    • @cousinegg1278
      @cousinegg1278 3 роки тому +8

      They can't tell their asshole from a broomstick. They're a bunch of corporate robots.

    • @ohnemar4285
      @ohnemar4285 2 роки тому

      Yop, summa summarum:
      Warner is Warner.

    • @sriharshacv7760
      @sriharshacv7760 2 роки тому +2

      Snakes are snakes.

    • @Gem-Ex
      @Gem-Ex 2 роки тому

      Don\t spread naive foolishness. Wake up.