Zenless Zone Zero Tier List - All Characters Ranked in 1.1

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  • @alicemadness2959
    @alicemadness2959 Місяць тому +53

    In my opinion, on my experience, Lucy should be A tier as minimun, maybe S tier. Amazing atk buff to any friendly unit, so little combat time, if you max out basic attack her off field damage become very good and you dont really need the faction buff to make her work, you can use her in any team like Nicole. If you add her M6 + a character that can exploit that (currently only Piper) then she become kinda broken. I would put her above Seth and Rina without a doubt, same level than Nicole.

    • @emmanuellalfakzuala252
      @emmanuellalfakzuala252 Місяць тому

      I feel like Lucy only sounds good on paper, like yeah the atk bonus is great and all and she has low field time but every support character has low field time. She is terrible at crowd management, which is something very important in shiyu defense, nicole on the hand is great at it, I'd even say she's the best in the game.

    • @alicemadness2959
      @alicemadness2959 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@emmanuellalfakzuala252 I agree that Nicole is perhaps the best but she is a little bit limited to playing with burst dps or ether characters. On the other hand Lucy not that much. Many people don't realize how much she contributes because they think that using ex special is enough, and they only raise that skill with mediocre discs because "she's just a support" If you raise her basic attack you significantly increase the damage/daze multiplayer of her pigs turning her into a decent off field dps, her only weakness are enemies that move a lot like Thanatos or like you say, crowd management.
      I invite you if you have the resources and want to do some test to build her with 1/2 crit value (50/60 - 100/120) and Atk in slot 5 and 6 and maybe you will like her more.

    • @tomnguyen7807
      @tomnguyen7807 Місяць тому +3

      @@alicemadness2959 im taking notes 🎉

    • @emmanuellalfakzuala252
      @emmanuellalfakzuala252 Місяць тому

      @alicemadness2959 I have her at lvl 50, wengine lvl is 40, maybe it's bc I don't have her signature weapon, only one i got is the one from the shop I already have atk% on her slots all maxed out but she is just ok, I think she'd perform better in a s11 team, but i only have Neko and Corin. When I'm using her it's as if I'm not really feeling her atk bonus being significant, so I'd rather just have Neko, Anby and Nicole instead.

    • @Mugetsu192
      @Mugetsu192 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@emmanuellalfakzuala252lucy with and without her sig is night and day unfortunately..

  • @krabling
    @krabling Місяць тому +88

    Anby has the S-tier wallpaper though.

    • @bruceleeroyjr5981
      @bruceleeroyjr5981 Місяць тому +3

      Don’t forget about corin

    • @skysheep747
      @skysheep747 Місяць тому +6

      Andy is S tier unit if you have skills. I frame abuse is basically a 3rd skill for her.

    • @danha3107
      @danha3107 Місяць тому +2

      amen brother

  • @pejahmein2301
    @pejahmein2301 Місяць тому +61

    Lucy at S. Soukaku is pretty much glued to Ice Team while Lucy can be used as a general team support on many comps and this is with M6 too.

    • @artemgavrilov4223
      @artemgavrilov4223 Місяць тому +1

      Soukaku generally gives more atk buff, 1000 vs 600 of Lucy

    • @cringemorecringe4549
      @cringemorecringe4549 Місяць тому +2

      Deserves it just for her cute boars

    • @pejahmein2301
      @pejahmein2301 Місяць тому +3

      @@artemgavrilov4223 I can give up the +400 attack any day just to have smooth transition in between characters on my comp. Soukaku just feels so clunky to me and slow on switch compare to Lucy. Even on my new account, outside of ice teams I rather not use her.

    • @devoreking
      @devoreking Місяць тому +4

      @@artemgavrilov4223thats if you only look at the stats however Lucy has much less field time overall and smoother quick assists transition

    • @lushen952
      @lushen952 Місяць тому

      Why is soukaku glued to ice teams but Nicole isn't glued to ether? Both have half their kit related to element. The other half is a 1000 atk buff on a long duration - who the hell thinks that's less than Nicole's buff?

  • @baemonrawr
    @baemonrawr Місяць тому +26

    Lucy with signature weapon r5 gives about 1000 atk (600 + .16*2500atk unit = 1k) with very little on field time. Not as strong compared to soukaku buffs in ice team due to ice pen but it is team wide and has better uptime. M6 contributes good damage if characters have multi hit ex specials, so future 5 stars will benefit. At lvl 50 good rellics, I may hit 50-60k total damage from 6-7 hits from piper ex at end game shiyu.

    • @oyah999
      @oyah999 Місяць тому +1

      m6 and r5 is pretty heavy requirement tho

  • @Vasharan
    @Vasharan Місяць тому +2

    I agree that Rina can be deceptively powerful. Her 3s Shock extension doesn't just make Disorder easier to apply, since both Shock and Disorder damage scale with remaining time (base 10s), it's a free 30% Electric Shock damage that doesn't even need Rina on field to apply.
    She really can't carry or DPS on her own, though so falls off hard when your other team members are locked out. But as Support to rotate in every now and then, she's amazing.

  • @DTolen
    @DTolen Місяць тому +22

    Nekomata won´t be a tier 0 charachter ever, but at this point she is far from showing her true potential. Unllike most DPS charachters, she doesn´t want to be played with a stunner, because her core needs her to be able to perfect dodge. There´s no supports from her element, and she doesn´t have the best sinergy with most of the members of her faction. Maybe she´ll be the one who bennefits more when Caesar comes out, because she will fit in a team with Caesar, and Nicole, or Caesar and Lucy, and have full sinergy with them. She won´t be tier 0, but she´ll be more usable

    • @WhiteTrashDiva
      @WhiteTrashDiva Місяць тому +1

      njaaa. . get her M1, and she very much wants to attack stunned enemies, get her engine on her, and she becomes a stun-burst dps, quick assisted in to let loose

    • @snaplaw1654
      @snaplaw1654 Місяць тому

      Corin M6 Will use that attack buff better than neko :)

    • @gestalthat7717
      @gestalthat7717 Місяць тому +3

      Yo I was surprised when I played her agent story quest. I didn't expect her to be so fun to play. When I saw her initially I wrote her off as just another cat girl, but after playing her in game and getting a feel for dodging I kinda am hoping to snipe her if ever I fail my 50:50's.

    • @lushen952
      @lushen952 Місяць тому

      She still wants dazd because her dps gets multiplied and that's higher than doing perfect dodges.

    • @exuvia9039
      @exuvia9039 Місяць тому

      Defending neko huh ...

  • @0Avi0
    @0Avi0 Місяць тому +10

    Bump up Lucy a tier, the fact that she can get her value out quicker than Soukaku makes her on the same level.

    • @coolzulu4178
      @coolzulu4178 Місяць тому +4

      This. Just because she doesn't have her perfect team yet like Soukaku, doesn't mean she shouldn't be high tier, because her buffs are valuable

    • @Vindicative1
      @Vindicative1 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@coolzulu4178she goes up after Burnice, I think.

  • @snaplaw1654
    @snaplaw1654 Місяць тому +4

    I love that people sleep on koleda she’s super flexible for both electric and fire teams due to her faction and also she stuns faster than lycon I have both and I stand by this a full energy koleda will literally stun enemy bosses in 2 specials

    • @Alecajuice
      @Alecajuice Місяць тому +5

      Koleda definitely has the fastest stun but unfortunately stun speed isn’t everything. If you don’t have the resources to follow up on the stun, such as energy and decibels, you can’t do any damage during the stun window anyway. That’s why she works better with DPS like soldier 11 that don’t have DPS downtime. And unfortunately her buffing is pretty mid, that’s why Lycaon and Qingyi are higher tier.

  • @imAgentR
    @imAgentR Місяць тому

    This was helpful. I just happened to run a team of Anby, Grace, Nicole but also had Anby at point instead of Grace.
    Had no idea about DPS or anything..

  • @darrianceragland7963
    @darrianceragland7963 Місяць тому +1

    I think it’s better in this kinda game to rank by teams than units

  • @zxcxzxc
    @zxcxzxc Місяць тому +2

    Lucy and Ben are pretty underrated imo

  • @jean-thomato
    @jean-thomato Місяць тому

    I cleared with anton-seth-nicole team for 2nd half and jane-grace-lucy team for first half... both main dps lvl 55 other units are lvl 40 only
    anton def needs more appreciation and i use him with seth for shock applier to get the 4pc buff, they go crazy together

  • @poliwb1
    @poliwb1 Місяць тому +1

    lucy tops all 4 star support.
    soukaku buffs 1 ally, long animation, slow movement, stacks reliant
    nicole def shred duration too short, grouping and invisibility is kinda nice tho
    lucy deals more damage even off field, long invisibility frames, buffs ATK for entire team including the bangboo and three boars

    • @tamho6202
      @tamho6202 Місяць тому

      Buff atk for entire team but for what while only your dame carry takes advantage 😂

    • @poliwb1
      @poliwb1 Місяць тому

      disorder team have two Anomaly units...
      also stun units build damage too since impact is not a substat.
      Lucy is just overall better

    • @Mugetsu192
      @Mugetsu192 Місяць тому

      ​@@tamho6202yes because god forbid hoyo releases off field dps in their games RIGHT?

    • @leduq2383
      @leduq2383 Місяць тому

      @@tamho6202 My m6 crit dmg build seth begs to differ. I drop a nuke every time I do his charge attack after Lucy buff and then switch to Jane with both Seth and Lucy buff active. Lucy is goated in this team.

  • @ThisIsmadness-j3o
    @ThisIsmadness-j3o Місяць тому +3

    you just said somebody put seth there because of jane = relevance ....and said anton can move up due to his relevance in clearing shiyu
    So why cant seth be up in the tier list based on he can used in a jane doe team? And seth feels much smoother and playable in comparison to Anton...Anton feels clanky af

  • @SupaRush
    @SupaRush Місяць тому +2

    Lucy best A rank support in game

  • @polsky6446
    @polsky6446 Місяць тому

    I think Rina will only works well with her sign w-engine (giving her more Pen% and buff on her w-engine) or having M1 (the dolls will stay 5s more longer)

  • @Vindicative1
    @Vindicative1 Місяць тому

    My Girl Nicole finally getting that recognition she deservesss

  • @danha3107
    @danha3107 Місяць тому

    btw could you talk about that new Camellia event WEngine? I’ve yet to see any calcs on how effective it is but maybe it’s just cause ZZZ is extra difficult to simulate

  • @xPhenom41x
    @xPhenom41x Місяць тому

    I like that Billy is getting some love.

  • @TheXInvador
    @TheXInvador Місяць тому

    Lucy is A or S tier imo, she hits almost as fast as Nicole, gives you boars that do a bit of DOT and applies some anomaly. What I find much stronger is Nekomata. I built every limited char on 60 but Nekomata performs quite competitively. Being a fast paced attacker gives you the opportunity to either on field her or to play her burst style, similar to Ellen. I’d put her into good tier. S11 does feels a good chunk worse than her.

  • @tetravisum
    @tetravisum Місяць тому

    You put Rina in "Good" at M0, but I keep hearing from people that Rina really wants her M1 to keep her ability active, I wonder how important that is

  • @ezemi_ow
    @ezemi_ow Місяць тому

    new sub, great video

  • @MarkFin9423
    @MarkFin9423 Місяць тому

    I would rate ben and soldier 11 as niche. Ben is only usable for a fire team and easily replaced once a koleada is in a player's account. Soldier 11 has a use but has an unnecessary skill ceiling, get's hard blocked in shinyu defense if the fight does not have fire weakness since she will do 0 damage compared to limited character who can steam roll the restriction. Not to mention, soldier 11 is such a mediocre character in practice, even a limited character like burnice will easily power-creep soldier 11.
    That's why people should put a pause on building a fire team if they are building a second team as in a couple of banners, both soldier 11, and koleada will be replaceable as I know not everyone has an ice team. I repeat, fire team getting hard powercrept soon, save those polychromes.

  • @DaedLizrad
    @DaedLizrad Місяць тому +4

    I have hated that tier list since I first saw it. 4 stars should generally be evaluated at c6 since they get there with time and the idea of tier 0 should be characters so good that they dont need team consideration or flexible enough to be dropped in most any team comp.

    • @revo5124
      @revo5124 Місяць тому

      It's still early game you think the will put it at c6? Smh think dude

    • @DaedLizrad
      @DaedLizrad Місяць тому +5

      @revo5124 First off, learn to read, please.
      Second off on just the budget packs. I have 4 c6, 2c5, and the rest are at least c3 so yeah, it's not unreasonable at all.

  • @dennistonrockstone
    @dennistonrockstone Місяць тому

    Ben, Burnice & Jane is going to cook 🔥🔥🔥

  • @raydough874
    @raydough874 Місяць тому

    I thought Ellen got powercrept by Zhu Yuan and Jane Doe teams

  • @detachmentalist
    @detachmentalist Місяць тому

    So long as the Defender class continues to be lumped straight into "Support", Prydwen's list will never ever be valid to me.
    (Even though Attacker and Anomaly DPS are split into two different categories)

  • @redcronojm
    @redcronojm Місяць тому

    i like Anton, but i already got Ellen and Jane Doe

  • @muhzulfikar5759
    @muhzulfikar5759 Місяць тому

    Lucy jane or grace jane ?, im leaning towards grace because i wanna can keep farming freedom blues for both of them in one go, oh and the bangboo, is officer cui is better than plugboo ?

  • @neologismx
    @neologismx Місяць тому

    M0 (or C0) lists are kinda useless, specifically as time goes on Purpose start getting m4 or m6 A ranks.
    Agree that a m6 Seth really fits in the high tier

  • @DorothyHall-j4d
    @DorothyHall-j4d Місяць тому

    681 Satterfield Brook

  • @FrostShard1337
    @FrostShard1337 Місяць тому +1

    0:00 3rd party's list
    4:22 EODGamer's tier list

  • @gerfe2
    @gerfe2 Місяць тому

    Seth is very underrated I want to mention a few things people seem to be overlooking.
    1) Seth's shield and daze is largely wasted on Jane since she doesn't need either of these. His anomaly prof buff also does less for her since she's already at 600+ w/ her kit and there's diminishing returns on multiplicative damage calculations. Piper on the other hand needs his shield, needs his daze, and since she has ZERO anomaly prof in her kit she benefits largely from the buff. I point this out to show that the people basing his kit ONLY around being paired with Jane are overlooking over half of his kit. The guy can stun as often as anby, can proc shock as often as piper can proc assault, brings shields..he's NOT just there for the 100 anomaly buff. But Jane mains aren't paying attention to any of this.
    2) There is a not yet recognized distinction between anomaly buildup units and anomaly prof units. Anomaly buildup units are going to be for disorder comps and in opposition to units like Jane who really just want to be left alone to build anomalies on their own. There will absolutely be a 5star version of Piper at some point that builds anomaly 2-3x faster than Jane and that unit will function very differently and require a totally different comp.
    3) His shock anomaly is INSANELY overlooked. People point out that Jane does like 600k w/ her anomaly proc and Seth only does like 40k so they think it's inconsequential. The thing is, shock procs up to 10 times and disorder procs the remaining amount. Meaning that his 40k proc is actually going to do 400k as long as you have constant damage output or proc disorder. People are REALLY overlooking him due to the lack of a big # on the proc. He builds an entire shock gauge in his def assist + EX + enhanced basic. He's an absolute God for disorder comps like w/ Piper. I've done well over 1m disorder damage due to his shock.
    Seth/Piper/Rina can rival Jane's DPS it just requires a lot more investment and more effort from your playstyle. Jane is going to replace Seth VERY quickly w/ new support S ranks but Seth will re-emerge when we get an anomaly unit that centers more on disorder than Jane did.

  • @60sto80s2
    @60sto80s2 Місяць тому

    Anton like sokaku is conditional he need rina or grace otherwise c6 anton does nothing by himself

    • @revo5124
      @revo5124 Місяць тому

      If I have both Rina and grace is c0 anton worth it?

  • @WardDeborah
    @WardDeborah Місяць тому

    01177 Trevor Shoals

  • @matthewpranataa
    @matthewpranataa Місяць тому +1

    it's unfortunate that their tierlist is based on the most optimal team instead of actual character value which is pretty misleading since like most people don't read that and just assume these are the best characters

  • @outthere6465
    @outthere6465 Місяць тому

    I run my 2nd team with Anton Grace Anby,
    Should I replace Anby with Koleda?

    • @outthere6465
      @outthere6465 Місяць тому

      Or should I just ditch Anton and find a new second team, I kinda feel that i’m wasting resources with Anton since he’s down at the bottom tier.

    • @SuperRamos619
      @SuperRamos619 Місяць тому

      Oh, you need two teams for this game too?

    • @outthere6465
      @outthere6465 Місяць тому

      @@SuperRamos619 yyyep

  • @Balalek
    @Balalek Місяць тому

    Lucy is the best sup

  • @GenesisGaming_
    @GenesisGaming_ Місяць тому

    Lucy and rina are both equal to seth, may be they are more good support than him

  • @WilbertBaker-z4i
    @WilbertBaker-z4i Місяць тому

    Raynor Orchard

  • @HarringtonAgatha
    @HarringtonAgatha Місяць тому

    58593 Conroy Shore

  • @DeborahSaylor-v3r
    @DeborahSaylor-v3r Місяць тому

    Marcel Green

  • @lushen952
    @lushen952 Місяць тому +4

    You are dead wrong about Seth the guy is being overlooked and underrated. He is consistently outdamaging Piper in discord comps and occasionally his dps is alarming close to Jane if built properly.
    The issue is everyone is putting all their relics on Jane and then feel like Seth is wasting time. If you build his anomaly up he's very close to an anomaly unit because he builds shock like crazy with his weapon and kit while also providing shields AND a support kit. In fact, I would wager Seths dps when built is higher than ANY 4star in the entire game. His anomaly procs hit often and proper disks can make them hit really hard.
    He's jack of all trades but they actually managed to make him work really well despite being master of none. But the people that play him as though he's only a support are playing him so insanely wrong it's ridiculous. He needs disks more than Jane - if you give then with equal treatment they are much closer than a 4star and a 5star have any business being.
    This is only talking about his Anomaly contribution I haven't even mentioned his support buffs, bizzarely high daze, and shield...he's easily tier 0.

    • @TheMandanga
      @TheMandanga Місяць тому

      Which discord?

    • @lushen952
      @lushen952 Місяць тому

      @@TheMandanga discord is a term in the game for when you proc two anomalies. Not the chat messenger Discord.

    • @SirMitsuruji5
      @SirMitsuruji5 Місяць тому

      He needs cinemas? Only have him c2

    • @lushen952
      @lushen952 Місяць тому +1

      @@SirMitsuruji5 c2 is stopping point. C4 just adds daze and c6 kinda overrated.

    • @userundentified
      @userundentified Місяць тому +1

      @@lushen952its disorder not discord 😭😭😭

  • @IvanZero-r3y
    @IvanZero-r3y Місяць тому

    78626 Lemke Motorway

  • @ninjablade2
    @ninjablade2 Місяць тому +1

    I think the fact Koleda provides burst stun is really being under valued here~! The fact she can swap in and instantly stun is such a valuable thing for any team where you want the main DPS to be on field for as much time as possible
    I'm guessing this list isn't considering sig W-engines and that may be colouring my perspective a bit, but I use her with Jane and Ellen and it's just so easy to swap into her, pop the enemies stun gauge and then instantly go back to DPS-ing~

    • @deboyz1014
      @deboyz1014 Місяць тому

      Piper + Rina M2 + Nekomata a good team? Or should I replace Rina with Lucy?

    • @ninjablade2
      @ninjablade2 Місяць тому

      @@deboyz1014 Hmmm, that's tough cause it depends how ya built Piper
      The big issue with the team is Neko doesn't really feel like she's fulfilling a purpose and you'd probably be better off with a stunner in her place
      Lucy, Piper and a stunner can be a pretty solid team, but if you don't have one built atm then Lucy Piper and Neko would probably perform decently for ya~