If Jett and Raze, and even Neon gets their movement abilities slowed by slow abilities and reduced distance. Thats would actually make sage and Harbor a bit more meta probably
@funkycrawler619 i believe harbor smokes aren't meant to be pushed similar to viper orbs is to delay they enemy from pushing, teammates shouldn't be pushing your harbor util
@@UrFada Why not? All other smokes, including Viper smokes, your teammates can combo with a Pop Flash to gain more space (which is what a Controller is meant to be for). His smokes hindering your team (even if slightly) still makes no sense.
ult even has animation??... that's the worst visual I have ever seen in a video game .. Mario bros mushroom 🍄 coming out from the boxes has more frames than vyse steel garden vfx
if sage’s wall is up before the vyse wall gets proc’d it will break the segments of the sage wall, but keep the ones that aren’t affected by shear. I saw it on a video yesterday from a diff UA-camr
But literally, Omen's flash is the best ability. Best to use it on retakes (with ur tp even). In most cases, you don't have time to flank and be careful around trips.
The amount of damage razorvine does is based on how far you go when it’s activated from where you were standing or how far you travel when you enter it if it’s already active. It’s all distance based.
this shit giga useful. the vines with lineups gonna be like sage slow but now they're on an agent that's actually useful really is a hybrid init senti.
Hey! will you do another mythbusting video? and i have a really interesting question: when you have the option: "always equip strongest weapon" (after using utility and such) will it swap to your primary even when its jammed or automatically give you your secondary?
2:51 What about Yoru ult before Steel Garden? Will the jammed effect be placed on Yoru while he's invisible and then affect him when he comes out of ult?
@@azari_osaka verticality ≠ timing (+ if you updraft before for example "Brims molly" activates you wont take damage until you land, does not work if you updraft when you are standing in active molly)
3:36 it’s similar placement like the cypher Cam. Plus the flash was definitely not optimal but it is stupidly annoying to have a correct placement at B main window.
This agent is broken. If you think about it, the wall can seperate a whole team and allow the other team to kill one group then leave beofre the next half gets there
I think we can make a fall death using the phenomenon that the wall pushes away the enemy. Is it possible to install a vertical wall in the Abyss B danger zone?
I'm interested if you can peak through the razorvine to get an angle where people won't see you as easily, similar to those sage walls where you peak under the wall or opping behind a shielded Iso.
iirc phoenix ult is the only ultimate aside from resses (clove and sage) that cleanses status effects But also that could be because it counts as a res, as you do die
I also found this weird spot the other day trying to learn lineups on ascent it lands on a piece of roof above heaven but it slows anyone going up boxes and in the corner of heaven even though it can’t be seen
It's not a myth bust but I'm wanting to know something since the release, how does the flash retrieving works? Sometimes u didn't use it and you retrieve it and can use again instantly, but sometimes there is a 20 sec cool down even if u don't use it
What happens if you put a Sage wall perpendicular on top of an unactivated Vyse wall like a bridge? Can you walk over it without activating it? Or does the Sage wall get destroyed or boosted when the trap is activated? What about the reverse? Can you put the Vyse wall on top of a Sage wall? What happens when the Sage wall goes away?
Maybe now the controller will have to enter the site by their util like omen did and then the rest will support them i also had a question that can you use vyse flash through sage or vyse wall?
what about a raze boombot or any util that moves on its own like skye dog or sova drone or what if you use throwables like kayo flash, raze nade, satchels etc?
That elevation part made me wonder, does the razorvine work like KAY/O molly, hitting people heaven and hell ? Since we see it hits on the sides no matter the height but does it affect right under a surface too (like gekko molly on tube bind b site)
What if you place Shear not directly on the line of spike. More like the one Sage wall trick to block off the defuse or even getting to the spike. Would that work?
What if you just walk past the wall and the run back where you came from? the wall takes a bit to come up so ig that ability won't be good to trap enemies, instead stall them
What happens if the wall is rising near you but you'd be pushed inside map geometry? Do you slide upwards, clip inside map geometry, or does the unbreakable break?
Interesting how both omen skills can counter her, just like lore accurate omen where vyse was shitting everyone until omen came
tru
He also used the Sheriff. A secondary. Bro had her number all along
@Argosaxelcaos i completely missed that, your completely right
If Jett and Raze, and even Neon gets their movement abilities slowed by slow abilities and reduced distance. Thats would actually make sage and Harbor a bit more meta probably
Probably
i hope this does become the meta, a more defensive yet agressive meta
Harbor slow in general just needs a buff and not affect teammates...never understood why he is a smoker who has smokes that hinder his team.
@funkycrawler619 i believe harbor smokes aren't meant to be pushed similar to viper orbs is to delay they enemy from pushing, teammates shouldn't be pushing your harbor util
@@UrFada Why not? All other smokes, including Viper smokes, your teammates can combo with a Pop Flash to gain more space (which is what a Controller is meant to be for). His smokes hindering your team (even if slightly) still makes no sense.
"Indestructible" Wall
that answers the questions, immovable objects vs unstoppable force
Wasn't this the case with all utility lol
💀💀💀
Bro its a game
As the age-old adage goes "spin to win"
Impressive visual effects on the razor wire elevation test
Agree. Props to design team for attention to that.
it's actually the same, you can only see where the vines end because they would normally clip into the floor
The vfx is literally the same .. vines usually goes under the terrain that's why you couldn't see that... but it's literally.. the same vfx
But L for the ultimate animation
ult even has animation??... that's the worst visual I have ever seen in a video game .. Mario bros mushroom 🍄 coming out from the boxes has more frames than vyse steel garden vfx
I feel like vyse+kj would be super cool, imagine there’s a razor vine where you are and then all of a sudden a kj Molly pops up
Vyse and Kay/O would go hard. Guns away and abilities away
Yo congrats on 100k. You’re the most underrated Val creator ever. Don’t know how this didn’t happen sooner
5:50 Vyse has the voiceline "wall destroyed", so even though you can't break her Shear, Riot did intend on it being able to be destroyed in some ways.
Damn you're almost at 100k subs. Congrats man you deserve it!
He did it!
Vyse'wall: I'm indestructible
Spike/Moving door: Oh really?
The stacked razor vines became Minecraft Cave Noises
Congrats on 100k!
@9:01 man has to hit the range after this LMAOOOOOOOOO
wait, if i play spike rush that means i only have knife when getting vyse ult?
no it’s only for your primary weapon not sidearm
@@kolidmmyeah but in spike rush you don't get a sidearm
Yes.
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8:18 HOLY SHART THAT JUMPSCARED ME 😭
skill issue
how did that jumpscare you 💀
No it didn’t 💀
How did that scare you ??😂
the sound it made was funny ngl, meme worthy
Love this type of video, efficient and informative. Thanks!
Vyse with Neon's ult + Iso's Undercute/Clove's Meddle & KAY/O would be nuts.
100 k sub congrats bro i remeber your first videos and now u are so big keep goinn
Congrats on 100k
congrats on 100k! you well deserve it
what about updraft dash away from the razor vine
obviously
Pretty sure it works the same way Sage’s orb works. Only ground units get damaged.
Ofc it would it’s literally just a molly
I mean you will be in the air so yeah it’s like a molly
Congratulations on hitting 100k subs in advance 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Congrats on 100k man
CONGRATS ON 100K!
what happens if you place vyse's wall on a choke point then have sage wall it, then someone breaks a block and walks through?
if sage’s wall is up before the vyse wall gets proc’d it will break the segments of the sage wall, but keep the ones that aren’t affected by shear.
I saw it on a video yesterday from a diff UA-camr
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love ur content btw :)
i guess omen is the best agent to go flank since u can literally dodge every sentinel resource with his moveset
But literally, Omen's flash is the best ability. Best to use it on retakes (with ur tp even). In most cases, you don't have time to flank and be careful around trips.
nope.
why would u go flank as an omen? are u iron?
@@okok-eg1op any agent can go flank lmfao ure def silver at best
@@zzz-ld2fjcertain agent for sure better at flanking
The amount of damage razorvine does is based on how far you go when it’s activated from where you were standing or how far you travel when you enter it if it’s already active. It’s all distance based.
congrats on your 100k! ❤
this shit giga useful. the vines with lineups gonna be like sage slow but now they're on an agent that's actually useful
really is a hybrid init senti.
Congratulations on 100K 🎉
you are so close to 100k keep it up!!
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I just wrote in your other video that when is the second part coming out lol 😂😂
No one cares stfu
Congratulations in advance on 100k subscribers
Congrats with 100k subs bro!
100 more till 100K!! congrats
Hey! will you do another mythbusting video? and i have a really interesting question: when you have the option: "always equip strongest weapon" (after using utility and such) will it swap to your primary even when its jammed or automatically give you your secondary?
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2:51 What about Yoru ult before Steel Garden? Will the jammed effect be placed on Yoru while he's invisible and then affect him when he comes out of ult?
probably not because reyna doesnt get it during dismiss
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what happens when vyzes wall comes into contact with deadlocks wall?
That razorvine lineups would be interesting to see in vct
Reyna's dismiss can literally even survive the spike explosion 💀 there's very few rhings it cant go through
I think that updrafting out of the ult might be possible, Jett might need to updraft before VYSE ults and dont land until she lands.
???? what part of verticality doesn’t affect the ultimate do u not understand
How the hell would you time that? You can never know for sure when someone is gonna ult
@@azari_osaka verticality ≠ timing (+ if you updraft before for example "Brims molly" activates you wont take damage until you land, does not work if you updraft when you are standing in active molly)
@@isaacantonius9308 Yeah, timing is in the dirt, but it would be interesting if it would work
are you stupid
as an earphone user, i thank you for the -10db edit 🙏
3:36 it’s similar placement like the cypher Cam. Plus the flash was definitely not optimal but it is stupidly annoying to have a correct placement at B main window.
what if once jett is in razorvine and then she jumps and holds space to glide will she be able to get out without taking damage
This agent is broken. If you think about it, the wall can seperate a whole team and allow the other team to kill one group then leave beofre the next half gets there
Try putting a sage wall infront of vyse wall trap and moving does that make the whole team cross the wall ??
Good video. Does Jett jump/updraft dash over razorwine take damage? Does razorwine affect hell when activated heaven?
let go kanga almost 100k subs!🥳🥳
I love her. I can't wait to play her!!!
Damn didnt know you had the champions buddy congrats on the win kanga
0:30 is jump + dash high enough to dodge the damage?
Yes
Thank you for another video :)! What is the trajectory of her Razor Vine? is it equivalent to a viper molly?
Yeah from what I saw it's the same as her molly and brim's too
for something thats supposed to counter duelists its surprisingly good at letting them through
LETS GOOO he did the thing i asked if the reyna dismiss activate the wall
I think we can make a fall death using the phenomenon that the wall pushes away the enemy.
Is it possible to install a vertical wall in the Abyss B danger zone?
I'm interested if you can peak through the razorvine to get an angle where people won't see you as easily, similar to those sage walls where you peak under the wall or opping behind a shielded Iso.
its interesting how she gets a voiceline for her wall being destroyed
iirc phoenix ult is the only ultimate aside from resses (clove and sage) that cleanses status effects
But also that could be because it counts as a res, as you do die
You know what? I think the wall can be used as a trip on spike fr.
I also found this weird spot the other day trying to learn lineups on ascent it lands on a piece of roof above heaven but it slows anyone going up boxes and in the corner of heaven even though it can’t be seen
vyse and cypher site lockdown combo would be nasty to see if well executed
you walk past a wall into a trip. certain death is imminent.
Does vyse's thorns works like kayo molly behind corners too?
It would be cool if her slow would have a spherical shape to it so it can obscure vision but not exactly like a smoke
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100k LESSGOOO
What if you place the wall next to the spike so there is no space to diffuse?
Vyse: I'm the best agent, you agents cant do nothing to me
Chamber, Omen, Yoru : excuse me Madame
It's not a myth bust but I'm wanting to know something since the release, how does the flash retrieving works? Sometimes u didn't use it and you retrieve it and can use again instantly, but sometimes there is a 20 sec cool down even if u don't use it
What happens if you put a Sage wall perpendicular on top of an unactivated Vyse wall like a bridge? Can you walk over it without activating it? Or does the Sage wall get destroyed or boosted when the trap is activated?
What about the reverse? Can you put the Vyse wall on top of a Sage wall? What happens when the Sage wall goes away?
Maybe now the controller will have to enter the site by their util like omen did and then the rest will support them i also had a question that can you use vyse flash through sage or vyse wall?
Can you test if Vyse says "Good Hit" even if the enemies dodge the flash?
i think a 'half flash' still counts as flash, same with skye
does wingman or skye dog take damage when going through vines? wingman goes to defuse spike will it take damage? if so, how much? enough to kill?
Myth: when you ULT then disabled enemies gun. If iso ULT what happened ??????
both iso and the enemy will get their guns back, no matter if iso or the enemy had their gun blocked
@@eleventhcaptain8718 ohhhhh, super thanks, arigato ☺️☺️
Can you jump out of the razorvine? Like, bunny hop your way out without taking damage? Updrafting it?
what about a raze boombot or any util that moves on its own like skye dog or sova drone or what if you use throwables like kayo flash, raze nade, satchels etc?
I think this new agent will shake up the meta, instead of falling off and be basically unplayed like Harbor or Deadlock.
The outlaw would be pretty good with this character
Let's go 🎉
That elevation part made me wonder, does the razorvine work like KAY/O molly, hitting people heaven and hell ?
Since we see it hits on the sides no matter the height but does it affect right under a surface too (like gekko molly on tube bind b site)
Doesn't seem like it, when I tried it on A heaven Ascent for example only heaven had the vines and damage, not hell
@@KangaValorant ok thanks a lot man keep doing ur vids its super useful !
kj and vyse 😭I’m terrified
Can you sort of bait vyse's wall to go up whilst making it back to your team instead of getting trapped onto site?
Does shear still go up if Jett updrafts over? Or raze satchels over?
What if you place Shear not directly on the line of spike. More like the one Sage wall trick to block off the defuse or even getting to the spike. Would that work?
Its Tuesday that it releases elsewhere in the world, not thursday
03:55 you can't place vyse flash in buy phase so it's still a pretty obvious spot.
what about neon movement the entrying then 'e' backwards? can it be done in time before wall comes up?
If Yoru places a stationary tp on top of where the Vyse's wall is set up, will the tp break or get pushed up?
What if you just walk past the wall and the run back where you came from? the wall takes a bit to come up so ig that ability won't be good to trap enemies, instead stall them
can u jump off abyss to dodge the ult and like yoru/omen tp up jett updraft or whatever??
and can you dodge the ult with yorus ult?
What happens if the wall is rising near you but you'd be pushed inside map geometry? Do you slide upwards, clip inside map geometry, or does the unbreakable break?
Talking about lineups, what trajectory does her molly thing has?
KJ molly
Same as Viper / Brimstone