This message needs to be broadcasted to those that believe endlessly chasing materialism will bring them fulfillment. I can't believe that something so seemingly obvious isn't just self-evident. Jordan basically built his public image off of relaying the importance of adopting responsibility, but it's bewildering how he's one of a select few public figures that actively verbalize this.
" THEE message " is out here . . . on the internet. What more do you want ???? You can lead a horse to water. But you can't make it drink. And BTW greed is a normal part of our nature as intelligent animals. More is always better than less . . . is the common wisdom. Even spiritual folks have to struggle against idolatry. Paul wrote *COVETOUSNESS (greed) IS IDOLATRY.* Don't take my word. Look it up.
"The materialist is sure that history has been simply and solely a chain of causation, just as the [lunatic] is quite sure that he is simply and solely a chicken. Materialists and madmen never have doubts." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy
God i love this dude. Always so simple yet incredibly complex in making people understand what they know... but dont live by. Thanks Jordan. Yet again.
I still see the cape on your back Jordan, you're such an inspiring hero. That cape just turned into a silly and amazing suit, it's still there though I can see it like it never left.
Exactly I figured this out when I was 5 and knew I was gona be screwd. 35 years later hey at least Im not stuck in those shit structures but I’m just replanting myself without that and beginning to learn to move forward not just for me but for my daughter.we are our tribe and village right now just learning to walk in a direction from here. It’s hard starting that later in life never having any friends or family. People wonder why they see you as not having much worth and the predators look for the ones who are alone and going through hard times. (No fuck off if you’re a predator) lol but I’ve come a very long way lol lots I have come to realise to help others and I’m still learning. Im happy I’m out of the red zone and this is the fun part. I have worth I’ve given myself permission to come out and be expressed now. Yay. Winning lol
I read a meme saying "therapy is fine but what lot of people want in life is money". I think this message sorta correlates with this video. Being in a social structure such as marriage, frienships and religion is so vital - and those are the exact things suffering in cruel modern cities. I hope technology may bridge some gap i.e. make easy for ppl to connect with like minded ppl who believe in a cause greater than life. But real life interaction still can't be replaced!
I do agree with you, thank you for saying again It means the world to me 🌍💞 Love watching anything that comes up on here and it gets me thinking about life and it worth it 😊Amen 💕
Exactly! Helps one develop a heart of gratitude. And gratitude is a well-spring of mental and physical health in so many ways. (And people will want to be around a person like that.)😊
So Good For All Children Walking.. All Vote On Own Mirror .. All Arrived As One Baby.. Trough All History.. One At The Time.. Alpha & Omega. The End.. Warnings.. You All Wear A Very Simple System.. I Am The Monster In The Mirror.. No One Change God.. Pure Love.. Amen
You’re right, this is brilliant. This is how we maintain integration within ourselves and society. We are relational beings. Without my friends and family for sure, I’d eventually skew my view of reality. I think we all do this, like you illustrated. And yes, friends should be enjoyable, why choose unenjoyable friends?:) We are responsible for guiding potential friends on how to handle our hearts. I’m in no way saying I’m right here, I don’t know enough to do that anyway, but this caught my attention, you’ve said before that your spouse plus you equals a whole individual. Scripture also indicates the two will become one. But there are two ways I see this: two incomplete individuals forming a new and better creation together; and two incomplete individuals relying on each other to complete what’s lacking in them, which I believe can tend towards codependency (I don’t have a better word for it) or even idolatry of one another. It seems self/laterally focused, idk. I’m probably taking this train of thought too far, but there is a less desirable end to allowing someone else to make up too much of our shortcomings. Isn’t there? I don’t want my husband to become my world. We should inhabit a new space, and for me, the focus would be aspiring to God’s will for the union in carrying out His call upon it. And one might say, well that’s marriage, you’ll end up half a person if anything happens to your spouse. Does it have to be that devastating? Does marriage mean losing yourself into someone else? Or is it better understood as forming something stronger in addition to both individuals forming a union that has a call of God on it? I’m highly God-oriented so it doesn't make sense to me without Him being at the head of everything.
Very thoughtful.🩵 I agree. With God at the center, everything else will work for our good...eventually. Though we are not spared suffering. It's the conduit to wisdom and quality of faith. Blessings to you. 💛
To be happy have a good life with a family, friends, and good job? I mean duh, who didn't know this? Not having those things is why people are depressed.
It's interesting, I went to an event on depression in London once and the crux of the event was that other people make us depressed, not ourselves. Not sure I agree but I do believe to some extent that happiness is a choice, that depression is a kind of negative self assessment on one's life/self. Society and even ourselves (negative/unhealthy thinking styles) can play a role imo in feeding depression: You should be this, you should be that, what's wrong with you, I don't like you, etc, etc.''
“Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. Mathematicians go mad, and cashiers; but creative artists very seldom. I am not, as will be seen, in any sense attacking logic: I only say that this danger does lie in logic, not in imagination.” - G.K Chesterton
7:02 They need their social hierarchy when they thoroughly enjoy the game of dominating the others, obviously. Alone with their thoughts would torment them more than the average person. Can’t silence the conscience when alone, undistracted for long enough. That’s the punishment. No one to bully but themselves, and they’re damn good at it. Those who live more isolated lives, on the verge of being social outcasts, comfortably-can also have great thinking minds and have contributed much to the advancement of the entirety of mankind. (Think N.Tesla) Plenty of employment opportunities are very solo-oriented like long distance truckers, astronauts, farmers, etc with very little social interaction. Hermits used to be lucky 🍀 Social integration in environments where their social circles aren’t the best (over dramatic workplace dynamics, snooty church culture, poorly managed educational facilities, hostile environments, rough neighborhoods, etc) it isn’t integration if they’re present in the location physically, surrounded by people, yet rejected, ignored, tolerated, victimized or vilified. Constant rejection and alienation harms the psyche just as well as isolation.
Powerful observations. I see harmony in what both of you are saying. The older I get, the more comfortable I am with irony and dichotomy. Thanks for adding your comments.
THANK YOU 🙏 VERY MUCH ! You’ve put some psychological , emotional , mental issues into perspective !!! 👋👍🙏👁️💟✝️🇨🇦🍁🇭🇷 I believe you are NOT The kinda person that tears people down so it would be VERY interesting to hear your analysis of my situation 🤔
Yes; clever good people who walk their talk with common sense and helpful advice; it's not rocket science to treat your self and fellow human beings respect and kindness. @@curtiste3235
An ego that lacks identity may play the role of a saboteur to survive. This is because the ego has no other reason to exist without an identity. The ego will conduct its own shadow activities, including acting as a saboteur if the situation calls for it. The saboteur is an ego sub-personality that makes choices that result in behaviors contrary to our intentions because we got negative external feedback. The purpose of the saboteur is to bring us back home to the truth of who we are. The ego's job is to feel important, and its survival depends on it. The ego needs to fight and defend itself, and needs negative situations to arise so it can have something to do, worry about, or something to change.
He might as well have been describing Aspegers, at least from my viewpoint. I wasn't feeling especially depressed until I heard that shopping list of things I don't really have, then it reminded me lol! But then I remembered I'm an Aspie or at least that's the only useful diagnosis I've ever had, and although I recognise not all Aspies are the same (I only ever knew one and he decided to shuttle off this mortal coil) I just figure this IS my lot - it doesn't really matter that I know what I'd prefer my life to be, it's like wanting to win the lottery - it just ain't gonna happen at my age and in my particular circumstances, so I just have to make the best of a bad situation. And it wasn;t much different when younger - in some ways a whole lot worse because at a young age you EXPECT to be able to achieve all those things - I'm at that age where you don;t really give a s... what people think of you. I love JP though for his clarity.
Same, I've only recently had a chance of stability to start realigning myself to be able to start making progress to somewhat approximate being a normal person. But it's hard, man...
I respect you both here. I'm so glad you are voicing your unique stories. 💛 (My son is an Anspie, 27) It IS hard! And, I'm so glad you are still here and plowing forward! You are so worth it! You have so much to contribute. And the fact that you are watching JP says a lot about you. I know I don't know you personally, but I've never met an aspie I didn't like and found engaging, smart, funny, and gifted. I'm ending prayers, blessing and virtual hugs for "staying in the game", of LIFE ❣️ I believe in you. 🌟 Never give up! Your potential for growth has no ceiling even if some paths aren't an option. Your superpower is thinking outside the box! With trusted guidance (friends, mentors, teachers, God), you can do amazing things - maybe not everything - but a good, productive, and meaningful life. You can do it. Just do "the next right thing." 🎵
@@curtiste3235 Thank you very much for your kind thoughts and wishes. I think the Aspie thing is a lot easier as you get older because it's more acceptale for an older person to be a bit eccentric - they just think it's age related - and I hardly care any more anyway! Nothing to lose I suppose. Best wishes to your son and yourself and anyone else involved in coping with this added complication. Personally, I like to keep myself as occupied as possible because it's a good age to live in, in some respects - (bottle half full and all that) - Even though I don't have kids, I feel lucky to be treated like a surrogate Dad by my friend's kids, who then grow up and have their own kids, so now I;m more like a Grandad - but not actually. I just have the stick and love moaning as I walk up the stairs! But seriously, kids are so funny as well as demanding, I just love the way they put on me and hoover up money - They keep me (relatively) fit and my wallet empty but repay me with so many smiles you can't buy. I could chat all day - you may have noticed - but one of said kids now needs me to go on an errand. Hope things pan out well for you all!
Proclamation: The Wilderness Tabernacle is a picture of Heaven and Earth. Exodus 26:13 makes Pi Pi was first recorded by Moses in 1440 BC. Josephus the Historian's description of the Tabernacle in 94 AD was inaccurate. This was rediscovered in 2015 AD. 330 Exodus 26 :7 15 Exodus 26:9, 12 - 1 Exodus 26:13 makes Pi = 314 Exodus 26:7-9, 12-13 The Tabernacle had 11 curtains, each 30 cubits long. Therefore, all the curtains together were 11 x 30 = 330 cubits long. One of these 11 curtains was to be folded in half. Therefore, the adjusted length is 330 - 15 = 315 cubits. The same folded curtain is to have half a cubit of material hanging off at both ends of the Tabernacle. Since there are two ends, that adds up to 2 x 0.5 = 1 cubit. Therefore, the final adjusted length is 315 - 1 = 314 cubits. 3.14 = 314 circumference/100 diameter ≈ π ratio (100 cubit court per Exodus 27:9-18) Exodus 26:13 makes Pi
Having a fabulous life and yet profoundly unhappy is clinical depression. Having an externally horrible life and struggling to survive is “Person in trouble”. Clinical depression is treated with meds. Exogenous depression, which literally means to be pressed down, is a natural reaction to horrible external factors out of one’s control. This is treated with behavioural psychology as in how to respond.
Good question. I enjoy being around people who cultivate a positive outlook, good hygiene, express gratitude, and show an interest in others. I don't enjoy being around people who cultivate complaining, blaming, who have deceptive agendas, are too aggressive or lack empathy (narcissist). That's just me. Maybe gathering honest feedback might be a good place to start. (Just remember to be kind to yourself and that change takes time.) Many people are afraid of honest feedback (normal) but it's a lot faster and accurate than obsessive self-analysis and mind-reading. I like to study people and read biographies of people I admire. I try to use them as a living template for developing 'likeable' (and other) chatactetistics. I do note though that JP points out in other presentations that if a person is "too likeable" they may be off putting and a red flag, as well. (Ie... "Clingers," con-persons, co-dependant, and perhaps candidates for abuse.) How about you? How do you define likeability?
My thoughts on meaning (incoming essay): I feel like understanding reality in the context of a video game can be useful to some limited extent. In a video game you know (I would hope) what the purpose of the video game is, you will usually find out the bigger picture (or get told straight away) and discover the details of the game (more so as you play it). Given this, you can apply logic/etc/whatever to how YOU want to play the game. Obviously life is not exactly like a video game, there is (as far as I'm aware) no consciousness inside a video game, among many other dissimilarities. But real life is a bit like being thrown into a video game whereby you don't choose your character. Like all characters (I assume) you start off mostly ignorant. You don't choose the point in time/history you are in, etc, etc. You don't know the rules of the video game (laws of nature, etc), you don't KNOW the bigger picture (including whether the 'video game' has a creator or not, etc). You are (imo) both individually and collectively unlikely to 'figure out' the 'video game' of life during your/our life time. With the intergenerational transfer and development/recording of 'knowledge' hopefully our ignorance decreases over time. And so my point being, it's no wonder people struggle. Beliefs about this 'video game' that help us know how to orient our character within the video game (e.g. the bigger picture, the details, who our character is, etc, etc) are what enables us (imo) to have meaning, purpose, satisfaction, etc, in life. As I said, video games have no consciousness, reality is not a video game. Because consciousness exists (including suffering), morality is a real concept and something worth pursuing/holding on to. But my point is, looking at reality, to some extent, as like being thrown into a strange video game where we don't even know if it's a video game or not is imo conceptually helpful to benefiting people in life (regarding how to orient themselves, etc). I wish I had this view/mindset in my late teens/early 20s. I would have told myself to investigate reality, arrive at high level beliefs about the bigger picture (existential beliefs), the details (how reality works) and my character (who am I?), etc. Once I've established enough of these related beliefs I will (I think) find meaning, find purpose and begin to actually start my life. Note: this doesn't assume a one size fits all answer. Some will say the bigger picture is a particular kind of God and so that will affect how they interact with/view the 'video game' of life.'. Also. in my opinion, some aspect (perhaps a lot) of life are speculative and given the diversity of perspectives/points of view, variety of orientation would exist even without this level of speculation. Hope that all makes sense. Thanks for reading.
I want you to be the most powerful person in North America because of your history no one can stop themselves trusting you ,,, it’s life you have lived morally but in the end after a lot of pain you got heaven in this world and hereafter,,, sycopaths greens are at this age don’t have friends and hell is waiting for them before sleep and hereafter ,,🐝
JBP must be getting his suits from Don Cherry's tailor. In seriousness though, I grew up with a narcissistic parent. When the parent puts their emotional needs before the child, and belittles the child to boost their own fragile ego, the child learns to socially disconnect and suppress their own needs as a survival mechanism. So for a longest time I didn't believe I needed anyone, or was even good enough for anyone. People in these situations also tend to develop insecure attachment styles, which often results in the (unintentional) self-sabotage of intimate relationships. It's only in the last couple years I've come to understand why I do what I do, and even now in my late 30s, I still struggle with it. But once you know the mechanics of it, that's when you can start fixing it. I think one of the most insidious things about the modern world is it enables people with crappy lives to engage in pseudo-social connections. Whether it's mass media, social media, online activism, cancel culture, pr0n, online games, etc. It makes people feel like they have meaning and are part of a group, when they're really experiencing neither. Of course the mass atomization of society predates the internet. But I liken the situation today to Homer trying to jump Springfield Gorge. A slow jump followed by a sudden and hard fall, hitting every crag and outcrop on the way down. This is why online discourse has gotten so toxic beyond the mere trolls of years past. It's a big problem that nobody's really taking seriously. In fact governments and big corporations are making big profits off it. But with mental health problems reaching pandemic levels among Gen Z and Gen A, we do need a serious rethink of our society's relationships with technology and each other. You can't put the genie back in the bottle, but you can change what you wish for.
Well, yeah, but what if you have (or had) a partner committed to deceit and perfidy? What if your biggest flaws, your worst weaknesses are (were) 1) that you learned to tamp down your impulses to fight back, to suppress your desire to fight for the truth and your own well-being, because you were psychologically and physically battered as a child, and 2) it is (was) completely beyond your ability to imagine that someone would pursue (hotly and vigorously) a sexual relationship, a marriage and children, from an operating paradigm of deceit and perfidy, even admitting it when confronted about it? Try putting your sanity in order with those preconditions.
That sounds awful. I'm sorry if you went through all that. 😢 I think JP can only cover so much in a 10-minute clip. He does have much longer videos that address some of those serious issues. I also really like "Therapy in a Nutshell" and "The Crappy Childhood Fairy" for mental health/relationship help. I hope you find peace and don't give up. 💛🙏💛 You are worth it. There are answers out there. Please keep looking and searching. JP is an amazing resource, but no one person will have all the answers and tools needed. And often, those answers come one piece at a time. I wish you well and pray you find healing and hope in some of these suggestions. I'm sorry for the pain you've gone through. 💔
Yes, Dr Peterson’s inclusion of being married as an automatic beneficial thing in your life doesn’t take into account the vast numbers of abusers and cheaters out there who get married under false pretenses.
"Isn't that wonderful?" said the little grey alien "Soon we will all be together!" "Soon everybody will know his place." Historian Prof. David Jacobs "Walking Among Us". "Freedom is our highest value", said Freya Therefore it is an abomination and a heresy to incarcerate anybody. Other solutions must be found, such as being sent to Coventry.
Good place to start! Are you growing there? Do you have a mentor? (Are you a mentor to someone?) Do you need or want more resources for growth and development? Just curious. Maybe this community can help expand those options? I'll try to check back soon.
Sanity is not all about coming from the mind. Proverbs says, “A happy face means a glad heart. The point is, if you talk the talk, be sure you walk the walk. As regards having someone, whether a spouse or a partner or a child or a friend, if you’ll be on the same page, then you’ll probably become sane in both your words and actions.
"As you think celestial, you will view trials and opposition in a new light. When someone you love attacks truth, think celestial, and don’t question your testimony. The Apostle Paul prophesied that “in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe. Seek guidance from voices you can trust-from prophets, seers, and revelators and from the whisperings of the Holy Ghost, who “will show unto you all things what ye should do.” Please do the spiritual work to increase your capacity to receive personal revelation." - Russell M Nelson, president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
This is a sidenote given the topic at hand, but its rather ironic that your quote is from a member of the Latter-Day Saints (i.e the Mormons). For in many Christian circles we don't see Mormons as Christians, but rather, as a large cult teaching false doctrines about Christ that are counter to what the Gospels in Scripture teaches. False doctrines such as God Himself having a wive--outside the Church being His bride; Jesus Christ and Satan being angels, and therefore brothers to each other; painting an afterlife picture where the Saints will rule over whole planets, with their multiple wives, etc, etc. It's sad, too, because I have personally met some Mormons in the (US) Army, and they were some of the kindness, smartest, humblest, and most gentlest and most loving, souls that I ever met in my life. So, I'm not saying all of this because I hate Mormons, on the contrary: I love them. I'm saying all of this because their teachings, their view of Christ (and God), is not one that is supported by what the Bible says, or indicates. Such false doctrines are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Imagine life is a game, and you chose to come here in a world where you're evolutionary dependent on ppl you don't even wanna be around. I would say you'd have to be insane to conceive of such a difficult game.
Or maybe you have a terrible life BECAUSE you are depressed for the reason(s) that are causing the terrible life, e.g. feeling lost in life, not sure what to do with your life, struggling to cope with life, to understand life. It's not either or, they can be connected. I watched one video ages ago that said depression is basically, if I remember correctly, ''I give up'', trying in life but failing (at least perceptually) and giving up.
This s such bullshit - people have abusive families and they have to stay away - the workplace is usually toxic with bullies and sexual harrassment etc. and church is often just as toxic. You need a healthy relationship with a spouse and a healthy environment Not perfect but healthy.
I'm very wary of people who say what I do and don't need. Not saying I disagree but I am wary, I won't just agree/accept what is being said, I will think critically first and foremost; perhaps more so than usual.
I'm a fan of JP, but sometimes I think you should stop seeking mental health advice and just live. If you get caught up in self-help constantly, you're not helping yourself. You're getting too much into your own thoughts and I think that can be a non-productive way of going about life. Go about your day, there's a beautiful day outside waiting.
Mr Peterson, I understand that you are really well read and know a whole lot of words. I am way more impressed with a man who uses normal common language, and not near as many descriptive and refining words to convey a message. Your style convinces me that you get some thrill from seeming really intelligent and presenting yourself as some final authority. If you want common people to understand rather than just follow, please use smaller words and not near so many. who are you trying to impress??? Thank you
I don’t want a partner. I don’t want friends. I have no family. I do have religion, but no church. I am not social, but I love everyone. I love Jordan, but I don’t fit in his box.
He is insane and cant see it himself. The irony. Being honest, logical, rational and truthful is being sane. But because most people are liars and self deceivers, they will never know sanity.
This message needs to be broadcasted to those that believe endlessly chasing materialism will bring them fulfillment. I can't believe that something so seemingly obvious isn't just self-evident. Jordan basically built his public image off of relaying the importance of adopting responsibility, but it's bewildering how he's one of a select few public figures that actively verbalize this.
The revolution has begun.
As well as hedonism
" THEE message " is out here . . . on the internet. What more do you want ???? You can lead a horse to water. But you can't make it drink. And BTW greed is a normal part of our nature as intelligent animals. More is always better than less . . . is the common wisdom. Even spiritual folks have to struggle against idolatry. Paul wrote *COVETOUSNESS (greed) IS IDOLATRY.* Don't take my word. Look it up.
"The materialist is sure that history has been simply and solely a chain of causation, just as the [lunatic] is quite sure that he is simply and solely a chicken. Materialists and madmen never have doubts."
G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy
When they’re ready to hear it, they’ll find him
God i love this dude. Always so simple yet incredibly complex in making people understand what they know... but dont live by. Thanks Jordan. Yet again.
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Thank you Dr.Peterson for waking us and improving our lives. God bless you and your family sir
Fake shill account
I feel your pain Jordan and responsibility you have for this world.
I still see the cape on your back Jordan, you're such an inspiring hero. That cape just turned into a silly and amazing suit, it's still there though I can see it like it never left.
Exactly I figured this out when I was 5 and knew I was gona be screwd. 35 years later hey at least Im not stuck in those shit structures but I’m just replanting myself without that and beginning to learn to move forward not just for me but for my daughter.we are our tribe and village right now just learning to walk in a direction from here. It’s hard starting that later in life never having any friends or family. People wonder why they see you as not having much worth and the predators look for the ones who are alone and going through hard times. (No fuck off if you’re a predator) lol but I’ve come a very long way lol lots I have come to realise to help others and I’m still learning. Im happy I’m out of the red zone and this is the fun part. I have worth I’ve given myself permission to come out and be expressed now. Yay. Winning lol
Brilliant, sanity in an insane world.
Clear and self evident as usually
this great man is
OMG the timing of this video couldn't be more perfect!! Thank YOU, Jordan Peterson!!
Thank you, Dr. Peterson. I hope one day I am capable of saving myself and even others.
I read a meme saying "therapy is fine but what lot of people want in life is money". I think this message sorta correlates with this video. Being in a social structure such as marriage, frienships and religion is so vital - and those are the exact things suffering in cruel modern cities. I hope technology may bridge some gap i.e. make easy for ppl to connect with like minded ppl who believe in a cause greater than life. But real life interaction still can't be replaced!
For me, this clarified what he means in his books when he mentioned we outsource sanity. Guess I needed it broken down Barney style.
I do agree with you, thank you for saying again
It means the world to me 🌍💞
Love watching anything that comes up on here and it gets me thinking about life and it worth it 😊Amen 💕
Thank you Dr Peterson
Not one of the ways to stay sane is to watch UA-cam videos yet, here we are, watching JB Peterson.
That does not apply to watching JB Peterson
Lol...,
Ironic isn't it? 😊
The older I get the more comfortable I am with irony.
Rule #32: Enjoy the little things.
Exactly! Helps one develop a heart of gratitude. And gratitude is a well-spring of mental and physical health in so many ways. (And people will want to be around a person like that.)😊
Thank you very much Doctor
Thanks for the positivity, I needed it
Love the Jacket!
And I listen to your lectures
I find your perspective thought-provoking
And I smile alot
Thanks for that
Me, too! 🤭
9:20 "You are so crazy that it takes a village to keep you sane" 😀
Spot on
Praise the lord
Preach!
The maxim holds true. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Genius is expecting the same, and getting thiem
Strength in numbers...number one to healing aspects! Navajo have specialized skills in healing medicine. 😉👍❤
So Good For All Children Walking..
All Vote On Own Mirror ..
All Arrived As One Baby..
Trough All History..
One At The Time..
Alpha & Omega.
The End..
Warnings..
You All Wear A Very Simple System..
I Am The Monster In The Mirror..
No One Change God..
Pure Love..
Amen
You’re right, this is brilliant. This is how we maintain integration within ourselves and society. We are relational beings.
Without my friends and family for sure, I’d eventually skew my view of reality. I think we all do this, like you illustrated. And yes, friends should be enjoyable, why choose unenjoyable friends?:) We are responsible for guiding potential friends on how to handle our hearts.
I’m in no way saying I’m right here, I don’t know enough to do that anyway, but this caught my attention, you’ve said before that your spouse plus you equals a whole individual. Scripture also indicates the two will become one. But there are two ways I see this: two incomplete individuals forming a new and better creation together; and two incomplete individuals relying on each other to complete what’s lacking in them, which I believe can tend towards codependency (I don’t have a better word for it) or even idolatry of one another. It seems self/laterally focused, idk.
I’m probably taking this train of thought too far, but there is a less desirable end to allowing someone else to make up too much of our shortcomings. Isn’t there? I don’t want my husband to become my world. We should inhabit a new space, and for me, the focus would be aspiring to God’s will for the union in carrying out His call upon it. And one might say, well that’s marriage, you’ll end up half a person if anything happens to your spouse. Does it have to be that devastating? Does marriage mean losing yourself into someone else? Or is it better understood as forming something stronger in addition to both individuals forming a union that has a call of God on it? I’m highly God-oriented so it doesn't make sense to me without Him being at the head of everything.
Very thoughtful.🩵
I agree. With God at the center, everything else will work for our good...eventually. Though we are not spared suffering. It's the conduit to wisdom and quality of faith.
Blessings to you. 💛
To be happy have a good life with a family, friends, and good job? I mean duh, who didn't know this? Not having those things is why people are depressed.
"Are you depressed or do you just have a horrible life?" They skip this question when they teach you to be a therapist and they really shouldn't.
It's interesting, I went to an event on depression in London once and the crux of the event was that other people make us depressed, not ourselves. Not sure I agree but I do believe to some extent that happiness is a choice, that depression is a kind of negative self assessment on one's life/self. Society and even ourselves (negative/unhealthy thinking styles) can play a role imo in feeding depression: You should be this, you should be that, what's wrong with you, I don't like you, etc, etc.''
“Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. Mathematicians go mad, and cashiers; but creative artists very seldom. I am not, as will be seen, in any sense attacking logic: I only say that this danger does lie in logic, not in imagination.” - G.K Chesterton
Very interesting. ❤
Wait... what about Vincent Vangoh? 🤔
Sanity is a stable bridge between subjective and objective
Interesting.
@@curtiste3235 not as interesting as insanity is knowing it is U that builds it. But where did you start to build it
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Two Tone Jordan.
Best thing i ever did!! So far.
And I ain't done yet, just getting started
7:02 They need their social hierarchy when they thoroughly enjoy the game of dominating the others, obviously.
Alone with their thoughts would torment them more than the average person. Can’t silence the conscience when alone, undistracted for long enough. That’s the punishment. No one to bully but themselves, and they’re damn good at it.
Those who live more isolated lives, on the verge of being social outcasts, comfortably-can also have great thinking minds and have contributed much to the advancement of the entirety of mankind. (Think N.Tesla)
Plenty of employment opportunities are very solo-oriented like long distance truckers, astronauts, farmers, etc with very little social interaction.
Hermits used to be lucky 🍀
Social integration in environments where their social circles aren’t the best (over dramatic workplace dynamics, snooty church culture, poorly managed educational facilities, hostile environments, rough neighborhoods, etc) it isn’t integration if they’re present in the location physically, surrounded by people, yet rejected, ignored, tolerated, victimized or vilified.
Constant rejection and alienation harms the psyche just as well as isolation.
Powerful observations.
I see harmony in what both of you are saying. The older I get, the more comfortable I am with irony and dichotomy.
Thanks for adding your comments.
THANK YOU 🙏 VERY MUCH ! You’ve put some psychological , emotional , mental issues into perspective !!! 👋👍🙏👁️💟✝️🇨🇦🍁🇭🇷
I believe you are NOT The kinda person that tears people down so it would be VERY interesting to hear your analysis of my situation 🤔
Me, too.
Wouldn't it be amazing!
We need some JP acolytes/apprentices so he doesn't have to be everywhere.
I guess I can dream... 💭
Yes; clever good people who walk their talk with common sense and helpful advice; it's not rocket science to treat your self and fellow human beings respect and kindness.
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Well. I just learned life changing informations.
I agree with everything except having kids. Love this man!
An ego that lacks identity may play the role of a saboteur to survive. This is because the ego has no other reason to exist without an identity. The ego will conduct its own shadow activities, including acting as a saboteur if the situation calls for it.
The saboteur is an ego sub-personality that makes choices that result in behaviors contrary to our intentions because we got negative external feedback. The purpose of the saboteur is to bring us back home to the truth of who we are.
The ego's job is to feel important, and its survival depends on it. The ego needs to fight and defend itself, and needs negative situations to arise so it can have something to do, worry about, or something to change.
30 seconds in and this is revolutionary thinking
I love that about JP!
“Nobody Move Nobody Get Hurt” - Yellowman
He might as well have been describing Aspegers, at least from my viewpoint. I wasn't feeling especially depressed until I heard that shopping list of things I don't really have, then it reminded me lol! But then I remembered I'm an Aspie or at least that's the only useful diagnosis I've ever had, and although I recognise not all Aspies are the same (I only ever knew one and he decided to shuttle off this mortal coil) I just figure this IS my lot - it doesn't really matter that I know what I'd prefer my life to be, it's like wanting to win the lottery - it just ain't gonna happen at my age and in my particular circumstances, so I just have to make the best of a bad situation. And it wasn;t much different when younger - in some ways a whole lot worse because at a young age you EXPECT to be able to achieve all those things - I'm at that age where you don;t really give a s... what people think of you. I love JP though for his clarity.
Same, I've only recently had a chance of stability to start realigning myself to be able to start making progress to somewhat approximate being a normal person. But it's hard, man...
I respect you both here.
I'm so glad you are voicing your unique stories. 💛
(My son is an Anspie, 27)
It IS hard! And, I'm so glad you are still here and plowing forward!
You are so worth it! You have so much to contribute. And the fact that you are watching JP says a lot about you.
I know I don't know you personally, but I've never met an aspie I didn't like and found engaging, smart, funny, and gifted.
I'm ending prayers, blessing and virtual hugs for "staying in the game", of LIFE ❣️
I believe in you. 🌟 Never give up! Your potential for growth has no ceiling even if some paths aren't an option. Your superpower is thinking outside the box! With trusted guidance (friends, mentors, teachers, God), you can do amazing things - maybe not everything - but a good, productive, and meaningful life.
You can do it. Just do "the next right thing." 🎵
@@curtiste3235 Thank you very much for your kind thoughts and wishes. I think the Aspie thing is a lot easier as you get older because it's more acceptale for an older person to be a bit eccentric - they just think it's age related - and I hardly care any more anyway! Nothing to lose I suppose. Best wishes to your son and yourself and anyone else involved in coping with this added complication. Personally, I like to keep myself as occupied as possible because it's a good age to live in, in some respects - (bottle half full and all that) - Even though I don't have kids, I feel lucky to be treated like a surrogate Dad by my friend's kids, who then grow up and have their own kids, so now I;m more like a Grandad - but not actually. I just have the stick and love moaning as I walk up the stairs! But seriously, kids are so funny as well as demanding, I just love the way they put on me and hoover up money - They keep me (relatively) fit and my wallet empty but repay me with so many smiles you can't buy. I could chat all day - you may have noticed - but one of said kids now needs me to go on an errand. Hope things pan out well for you all!
Proclamation:
The Wilderness Tabernacle is a picture of Heaven and Earth. Exodus 26:13 makes Pi
Pi was first recorded by Moses in 1440 BC. Josephus the Historian's description of the Tabernacle in 94 AD was inaccurate. This was rediscovered in 2015 AD.
330 Exodus 26 :7
15 Exodus 26:9, 12
- 1 Exodus 26:13 makes Pi
= 314
Exodus 26:7-9, 12-13
The Tabernacle had 11 curtains, each 30 cubits long. Therefore, all the curtains together were 11 x 30 = 330 cubits long.
One of these 11 curtains was to be folded in half. Therefore, the adjusted length is 330 - 15 = 315 cubits.
The same folded curtain is to have half a cubit of material hanging off at both ends of the Tabernacle. Since there are two ends, that adds up to 2 x 0.5 = 1 cubit. Therefore, the final adjusted length is 315 - 1 = 314 cubits.
3.14 = 314 circumference/100 diameter ≈ π ratio (100 cubit court per Exodus 27:9-18)
Exodus 26:13 makes Pi
Read "Who Made the Moon" for discussions about mensuration.
Best person on YT
Few can so eloquently describe my horrible life.
Ouch!💥 I felt that.
I hope things get better.
Hang in there, friend. 💛
I feel your despair; I pray some how other, there has been a turn up for the better.
Having a fabulous life and yet profoundly unhappy is clinical depression. Having an externally horrible life and struggling to survive is “Person in trouble”.
Clinical depression is treated with meds.
Exogenous depression, which literally means to be pressed down, is a natural reaction to horrible external factors out of one’s control. This is treated with behavioural psychology as in how to respond.
If I need other people to stay sane, then I am insane, because everyone else is also insane.
Muy bueno 👌🏻
Makes me think of this Krishnamurti quotation "It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
So, how do you know those friends or people would “enjoy the time with you”?
Good question.
I enjoy being around people who cultivate a positive outlook, good hygiene, express gratitude, and show an interest in others.
I don't enjoy being around people who cultivate complaining, blaming, who have deceptive agendas, are too aggressive or lack empathy (narcissist).
That's just me.
Maybe gathering honest feedback might be a good place to start. (Just remember to be kind to yourself and that change takes time.)
Many people are afraid of honest feedback (normal) but it's a lot faster and accurate than obsessive self-analysis and mind-reading.
I like to study people and read biographies of people I admire. I try to use them as a living template for developing 'likeable' (and other) chatactetistics.
I do note though that JP points out in other presentations that if a person is "too likeable" they may be off putting and a red flag, as well.
(Ie... "Clingers," con-persons, co-dependant, and perhaps candidates for abuse.)
How about you?
How do you define likeability?
My thoughts on meaning (incoming essay):
I feel like understanding reality in the context of a video game can be useful to some limited extent. In a video game you know (I would hope) what the purpose of the video game is, you will usually find out the bigger picture (or get told straight away) and discover the details of the game (more so as you play it). Given this, you can apply logic/etc/whatever to how YOU want to play the game.
Obviously life is not exactly like a video game, there is (as far as I'm aware) no consciousness inside a video game, among many other dissimilarities. But real life is a bit like being thrown into a video game whereby you don't choose your character. Like all characters (I assume) you start off mostly ignorant. You don't choose the point in time/history you are in, etc, etc.
You don't know the rules of the video game (laws of nature, etc), you don't KNOW the bigger picture (including whether the 'video game' has a creator or not, etc). You are (imo) both individually and collectively unlikely to 'figure out' the 'video game' of life during your/our life time. With the intergenerational transfer and development/recording of 'knowledge' hopefully our ignorance decreases over time.
And so my point being, it's no wonder people struggle. Beliefs about this 'video game' that help us know how to orient our character within the video game (e.g. the bigger picture, the details, who our character is, etc, etc) are what enables us (imo) to have meaning, purpose, satisfaction, etc, in life.
As I said, video games have no consciousness, reality is not a video game. Because consciousness exists (including suffering), morality is a real concept and something worth pursuing/holding on to. But my point is, looking at reality, to some extent, as like being thrown into a strange video game where we don't even know if it's a video game or not is imo conceptually helpful to benefiting people in life (regarding how to orient themselves, etc).
I wish I had this view/mindset in my late teens/early 20s. I would have told myself to investigate reality, arrive at high level beliefs about the bigger picture (existential beliefs), the details (how reality works) and my character (who am I?), etc. Once I've established enough of these related beliefs I will (I think) find meaning, find purpose and begin to actually start my life.
Note: this doesn't assume a one size fits all answer. Some will say the bigger picture is a particular kind of God and so that will affect how they interact with/view the 'video game' of life.'. Also. in my opinion, some aspect (perhaps a lot) of life are speculative and given the diversity of perspectives/points of view, variety of orientation would exist even without this level of speculation.
Hope that all makes sense. Thanks for reading.
Interesting.
You're a deep thinkier.
Respect. 💛
@@curtiste3235 Thanks, I appreciate that :)
I want you to be the most powerful person in North America because of your history no one can stop themselves trusting you ,,, it’s life you have lived morally but in the end after a lot of pain you got heaven in this world and hereafter,,, sycopaths greens are at this age don’t have friends and hell is waiting for them before sleep and hereafter ,,🐝
Where can I find the full clip for this? Thank you
God's blessings from Bay City Michigan
That’s what the outdoors in nature is for
Who has the link to the full video?
Sure wish I could come see you when you're in Texas in April!! Tickets..$400!
JBP must be getting his suits from Don Cherry's tailor. In seriousness though, I grew up with a narcissistic parent. When the parent puts their emotional needs before the child, and belittles the child to boost their own fragile ego, the child learns to socially disconnect and suppress their own needs as a survival mechanism. So for a longest time I didn't believe I needed anyone, or was even good enough for anyone. People in these situations also tend to develop insecure attachment styles, which often results in the (unintentional) self-sabotage of intimate relationships. It's only in the last couple years I've come to understand why I do what I do, and even now in my late 30s, I still struggle with it. But once you know the mechanics of it, that's when you can start fixing it.
I think one of the most insidious things about the modern world is it enables people with crappy lives to engage in pseudo-social connections. Whether it's mass media, social media, online activism, cancel culture, pr0n, online games, etc. It makes people feel like they have meaning and are part of a group, when they're really experiencing neither. Of course the mass atomization of society predates the internet. But I liken the situation today to Homer trying to jump Springfield Gorge. A slow jump followed by a sudden and hard fall, hitting every crag and outcrop on the way down. This is why online discourse has gotten so toxic beyond the mere trolls of years past. It's a big problem that nobody's really taking seriously. In fact governments and big corporations are making big profits off it. But with mental health problems reaching pandemic levels among Gen Z and Gen A, we do need a serious rethink of our society's relationships with technology and each other. You can't put the genie back in the bottle, but you can change what you wish for.
It has taken me 63 years to figure out that I am an idiot. Haunted by past mistakes and have lost the will to live.
Like your suits!
It's about Environment.
Well, yeah, but what if you have (or had) a partner committed to deceit and perfidy? What if your biggest flaws, your worst weaknesses are (were) 1) that you learned to tamp down your impulses to fight back, to suppress your desire to fight for the truth and your own well-being, because you were psychologically and physically battered as a child, and 2) it is (was) completely beyond your ability to imagine that someone would pursue (hotly and vigorously) a sexual relationship, a marriage and children, from an operating paradigm of deceit and perfidy, even admitting it when confronted about it? Try putting your sanity in order with those preconditions.
That sounds awful.
I'm sorry if you went through all that. 😢
I think JP can only cover so much in a 10-minute clip. He does have much longer videos that address some of those serious issues.
I also really like "Therapy in a Nutshell" and "The Crappy Childhood Fairy" for mental health/relationship help.
I hope you find peace and don't give up. 💛🙏💛
You are worth it. There are answers out there. Please keep looking and searching. JP is an amazing resource, but no one person will have all the answers and tools needed. And often, those answers come one piece at a time.
I wish you well and pray you find healing and hope in some of these suggestions.
I'm sorry for the pain you've gone through. 💔
Yes, Dr Peterson’s inclusion of being married as an automatic beneficial thing in your life doesn’t take into account the vast numbers of abusers and cheaters out there who get married under false pretenses.
"Insanity is doing the exact same thing and expect things to change."
"Isn't that wonderful?" said the little grey alien
"Soon we will all be together!"
"Soon everybody will know his place."
Historian Prof. David Jacobs "Walking Among Us".
"Freedom is our highest value", said Freya
Therefore it is an abomination and a heresy to incarcerate anybody.
Other solutions must be found, such as being sent to Coventry.
I don't have any of that except church.
Good place to start!
Are you growing there?
Do you have a mentor? (Are you a mentor to someone?)
Do you need or want more resources for growth and development?
Just curious.
Maybe this community can help expand those options?
I'll try to check back soon.
Who else saw the JP post, clicked and paused to hit the like before listening?
Was this in St. Louis?
Sanity is not all about coming from the mind. Proverbs says, “A happy face means a glad heart. The point is, if you talk the talk, be sure you walk the walk.
As regards having someone, whether a spouse or a partner or a child or a friend, if you’ll be on the same page, then you’ll probably become sane in both your words and actions.
"As you think celestial, you will view trials and opposition in a new light. When someone you love attacks truth, think celestial, and don’t question your testimony. The Apostle Paul prophesied that “in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”
There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe. Seek guidance from voices you can trust-from prophets, seers, and revelators and from the whisperings of the Holy Ghost, who “will show unto you all things what ye should do.” Please do the spiritual work to increase your capacity to receive personal revelation."
- Russell M Nelson, president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
This is a sidenote given the topic at hand, but its rather ironic that your quote is from a member of the Latter-Day Saints (i.e the Mormons).
For in many Christian circles we don't see Mormons as Christians, but rather, as a large cult teaching false doctrines about Christ that are counter to what the Gospels in Scripture teaches. False doctrines such as God Himself having a wive--outside the Church being His bride; Jesus Christ and Satan being angels, and therefore brothers to each other; painting an afterlife picture where the Saints will rule over whole planets, with their multiple wives, etc, etc.
It's sad, too, because I have personally met some Mormons in the (US) Army, and they were some of the kindness, smartest, humblest, and most gentlest and most loving, souls that I ever met in my life. So,
I'm not saying all of this because I hate Mormons, on the contrary: I love them. I'm saying all of this because their teachings, their view of Christ (and God), is not one that is supported by what the Bible says, or indicates. Such false doctrines are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Well said.
That suit makes me think that JP is one trauma away from becoming a real life Joker.
9:05 - that's the narcissist's perspective
Dope fit
Imagine life is a game, and you chose to come here in a world where you're evolutionary dependent on ppl you don't even wanna be around. I would say you'd have to be insane to conceive of such a difficult game.
Or maybe you have a terrible life BECAUSE you are depressed for the reason(s) that are causing the terrible life, e.g. feeling lost in life, not sure what to do with your life, struggling to cope with life, to understand life. It's not either or, they can be connected. I watched one video ages ago that said depression is basically, if I remember correctly, ''I give up'', trying in life but failing (at least perceptually) and giving up.
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Most days it feels like two cats in a bag - looking for SOME agreement!!!
This s such bullshit - people have abusive families and they have to stay away - the workplace is usually toxic with bullies and sexual harrassment etc. and church is often just as toxic. You need a healthy relationship with a spouse and a healthy environment
Not perfect but healthy.
Abusive families existing doesn't negate the need for positive family interaction, though.
"Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you"
“There are no sane people, just unchecked”;)
Random psyhologist
10 ways?
I saw true dreams
I'm very wary of people who say what I do and don't need. Not saying I disagree but I am wary, I won't just agree/accept what is being said, I will think critically first and foremost; perhaps more so than usual.
Read Elpis Israel... ?
This video is turning me insane.
Doc, are you inviting Norm Finkelstein or not? You have zero reasons to avoid talking to him and over 100 to urgently do it.
Sane-ism 😮?
I'm a fan of JP, but sometimes I think you should stop seeking mental health advice and just live. If you get caught up in self-help constantly, you're not helping yourself. You're getting too much into your own thoughts and I think that can be a non-productive way of going about life. Go about your day, there's a beautiful day outside waiting.
You are so insane that you need a village to keep you sane😮!!!
Good talk, but at first heating this guy with that jacket and tie talk about sanity was some kind of test.
I find that meaning finds us automatically. We don’t need to find it. We just naturally put meaning to everything. And it can be a problem
Mr Peterson,
I understand that you are really well read and know a whole lot of words.
I am way more impressed with a man who uses normal common language, and not near as many descriptive and refining words to convey a message.
Your style convinces me that you get some thrill from seeming really intelligent and presenting yourself as some final authority.
If you want common people to understand rather than just follow, please use smaller words and not near so many.
who are you trying to impress???
Thank you
I can’t find meaning because it means I have to be apart of this shameful society. I’d rather not.
God and The Serpent story...What is the purpose of Life? To realize you have never spent a moment outside of Garden of Eden.
I am saint physic
_______ 5:09
Thanks for honoring my freedom of speech.
Well-constituted individual?
“I act as if God exists, and I’m terrified he might.” ~ Jordan Peterson
I don’t want a partner. I don’t want friends. I have no family. I do have religion, but no church. I am not social, but I love everyone. I love Jordan, but I don’t fit in his box.
And take the occasional coma if you can afford it
going to build another car. don't tell me what to do not my dad
False interpretations don’t give you meaning only Jesus does
Stay off the internet, especially social media
He is insane and cant see it himself. The irony. Being honest, logical, rational and truthful is being sane. But because most people are liars and self deceivers, they will never know sanity.