How Did Orkney Change Scottish History?
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Orkney may proclaim its Norse identity, but Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey visits historical locations to see how much Orkney has been linked to royal intrigues in Scottish history
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Surely Orkney is an archipelago, not "an" island...
Forty years ago used to regularly deal over the phone with an Orcadian named Gordon Jolly, as English colleagues could not understand him and always passed his calls to me: my family are from Dumbarton, but I found his accent nearly impenetrable, invariably asking him to repeat himself three or for times before I got it: he was totally chilled, unoffended, willing to keep going until this numpty Briton got it.
It would be most interesting to hear more history of our islands, often ignored and forgotten. Excellent programme 👍 🏴🏴
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Yes! Include Orkney in a whole tour! Beautiful and historic place! Thanks for all the great videos and history!
I second that proposal!
I'm Norwegian by loyalty and genetics, and my family is from Orkney. My tartan is Sinclair ancient hunting. I've been to Scotland once.
It's kind of hard to explain to people.
Would absolutely love to hear more Orcadian history 🙏🏽
Yes, yes, yes, please include Orkney in Scotland History Tours! As soon as I saw where you were standing at the start of this video, I recognized you were in Kirkwall, across the street from St. Magnus Cathedral. The Earl's Palace and the Bishop's Palace are right next to each other, across from the cathedral. There is so much history in one location, spanning a couple of centuries. I love Orkney and Shetland!
I love your channel. I have deep Scottish heritage and I am very interested in learning more about Scottish history, culture, folklore, food, pretty much all of it. Your channel is an excellent way to learn and be entertained at the same time. You have great charisma and I am a big fan of the channel. 😊
Brilliant
Bruce is great -but a saintee
The people of Orkney speak like the people from Aberdeen.
I went to Orkney for a week with my dad in about 1960/61. He was a representative for a veterinary company and travelled all over Scotland. I used to go with him as often as I could. The week in Orkney is still probably the most memorable I've had so far, the Isle of Man was another with a part in Scottish history.
You're right even a week is not long enough to explore all of Orkney. It's an amazing place. My outstanding memory is having a picnic lunch at the Stenness Standing Stones.
I hope you went on the ferry from Scrabster to Stromness across the Pentland Firth.
More Orcadian history would great.
Hail ! Thain of Orkney !
Orkney!? Definitely top Scottish tour material.
Despite living in New Zealand, and having no Orcadian roots, I’ve travelled all the way to Orkney twice for holidays. I find it super interesting, and it would certainly make for some great material for more of your excellent videos
Thanks for coming to Orkney! We don’t get enough love for how amazing historically and aesthetically the islands are! You also have the best pronunciation of Orkney and other place names I’ve ever heard from anyone outside of Orkney, let alone I’ve never really heard anyone who wasn’t from Orkney make a video about here without saying “the Orkney’s” so thanks so much! Please come back!
Our family had the privilege of visiting Orkney in 2016, and we've longed to go back ever since. It's history is deep, unique, and fascinating. Plus the best Scotch distillery tour of the many we've enjoyed all over the world ;).
A definite YES please include a full tour of Orkney in another video. My ancestors come from there and are related to James Fea who captured the famous Orkney pirate John Gow.....that would be fun for your subscribers to know more about. Very little is spoken of the Scottish pirates and their role in whisky smuggling that became standard practice for the next 150 years due to the increase of taxes from 1644......and of course Scotland's most northern distillary Highland Park in Kirkwall !!
Another excellent lesson - thank you Bruce & team! :) It is so fascinating to think of all the layers of migration and conquering that resulted in the mix that is now Scotland. I feel both like I learned something and am entertained every time I listen to your work.
Very interesting! Thank you, Bruce!
Definitely more Orkney stuff Bruce. What a place
Another simple, historical tale of complex intermixed relationships. ❤
So much information in such a short time. You must have a photographic memory my friend.
Hello Sir; you caused me to do a laugh out loud spit take with a mouth full of my morning mug of tea when you cracked the joke line "about not getting into discussing it ", yet another time to dry off my telephone screen... Thanks, I needed that laughter first thing in the morning to begin my day with a smile on my face and a memory to chuckle about for the rest of my day. Your killing me man!! And I enjoy every moment of it. Keep on teaching me the history of my ancestors please.❤ ✌️
Ps. please Sir may I have some more - about Orkney history.
Wow Bruce, that was a synopsis not only of the Orkneys but of just about every great nighttime soap opera ever done!😁 It's sad and cool all at the same time to us who love history but it became everyday news to the inhabitants after a while. I had a wonderful acquaintance from Orkney during the 1990s. When I mentioned that even now, their government seemed to change almost constantly, he replied "Aye. When I'm home I look at the paper ever mornin' ta see who's leadin' us that day. "!!!😆 They are a hard working people with a tremendous sense of humor! Very glad you showcased them here. I look forward to your future videos about the Orkney Islands. The history books here in the States don't know that they exist!
George Mackay Brown of Orkney is a genius writer / poet
a weaving of true creativity , folklore , history and poetry woven together
I would love to hear more about Orkney history in your Scottish Tour. I just love your channel, it tells me so much about Scotland. History, particularly our Scottish history, can be so complicated and this one was much so.
I used to live and work with Scotland and miss in terribly. I'm so fortunate that my friends and I were able to visit Orkney and learn about its rich history, culture, and mythologies. The landscape is stunning and it was fascinating to visit many of Orkney's historical sites like Maes Howe.
Great stuff as ever Bruce. Another great Orcadian “what if…” is:
“What if Haakon IV of Norway hadn’t died in Orkney in December 1263?”
He had gone there to over-winter after the autumn gales (rather more than a Scottish army) had prevented him from landing his army on the Ayrshire coast - the event known in Scottish history as “The Battle of Largs”. The fact that he was over-wintering there and had not returned to Norway suggests an intention to return to the Scottish mainland the following spring. This wasn’t a “Viking Raiding party” it was a full scale army of Norse and their Manx and Norse-Gael allies, one of his generals was “King Dugald of the Isles” - probably Dugald MacRuairi recognised as King of the “Sudreyjar” (southern isles - ie the inner and outer Hebrides) by the Norse.
Haakon’s original purpose was ostensibly to reassert the Norse claim to these islands (as far south as Arran and Bute and probably including a chunk of Argyll), a claim that was every bit as valid as that of any king of Scotland. But if he hadn’t died and HAD returned and landed his formidable army in southern Scotland there would at the very least have been no Treaty of Perth that ceded them to Scotland.
Furthermore, major Norse victories (not beyond the realms of probability) would have utterly changed the course of Scottish history - bearing in mind this was only 23 years before the death of Alexander III triggered the succession struggle that ended with the English conquest. What if Scotland had by that time become - like its islands - a fief of Norway, ruled by Norse-Gael Kings?
Yes!
More Orkney, please! Been three times, and "still" haven't seen everything!
Once again you’ve entertainingly revealed the fascinating complexity of Scottish history.
So fortunate to have toured the Orkneys in 2019. Saw pretty much everything to see. One of our best days ever.
❤love your channel Mr Bruce ☘️
Thank you kindly
The salacious scandal of this beautiful place is undeserving but also intriguing at the same time. Keep it up Mr.Fumey haste ye back 🥃 the story is so much better than any soap opera or reality television
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This is on my to visit list, Hoy Island, HAEY Norse, O hEochaidh Fiatach dynasty ancestry and history truly amazing thinking of the past and today how we have all come along way, thank you for what you do, very much enjoying your channel, all the very best, health and happiness.
It’s always a treat to hear, “…in the mean time, let me tell ya a story.”
History with humor (when appropriate, because there’s a fair amount of tragedy, as well), and the future effects of the actions taken in response the the circumstances. Thank you!!!
Absolutely would love to hear of the history as from Australia.
I do enjoy the information as well as the education you give me and my family. Thank you so much.
So nice of you
Thank you! It is fascinating to see and hear about where my ancestors lived and the historical moments during their lives.
You could talk about the Orkney men how became workers and factors for the Hudson Bay Company. I am sure that would be quite the story. Also I would like to see your take of a very Scottish story of the “battle “ of Seven Oaks where a bunch of Scottish fur company owners riled things up in the Red river valley that caused the death of several Scottish crofters over some dried meat. Cheers
One of the "who do you think you are" episodes did someone who had an ancestor who did that. Lost both feet to frostbite.
Love your content. You are brilliant.
Thank you so much 😀
It is an excellent video with information as usual.
So nice of you
Thanks!
Ah thanks
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this Bruce. I definitely would love to visit Orkney. Family tales mentioned they vacationed there. I think it’s “vacationed”. My instincts think they were hiding out from people going after Templars. I’ll figure it out one day ☺️
Thank you/
Cool video Bruce 😎👍👍
Thanks 👍
I love Orkney! I’m an Anglophile Yank who was too broke to travel abroad until my mid-40s, but on my first trip 11 years ago, my mom and I went to Britain. She had been there a few times before, so she let me plan our itinerary. I had first heard about Orkney when I saw Simon Schama’s History of England miniseries, which began on the islands, and I was fascinated. So, I planned our trip to mostly cover northern England and Scotland after a few days in London. We ended with three days in Orkney, and it was my favorite region of the entire trip (my favorite single spot was Rievaulx Abbey). We hit all of the major spots on Mainland, including both Earl’s Palaces and the Broch of Birsay. I definitely hope to return some day and see even more, including going to some of the other islands like Rousay and Hoy.
In Sanday now lol been here 3 weeks, love your channel, going to Shetland for November 👍
Quality content as always Mr Fummey! 🖤
Much appreciated!
Another really interesting vid Bruce. I really must get up to Orkney someday. It looks a magical place.
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I'm from the Netherlands and I visited Shetland and Orkney just last year! It was very nice seeing the Bishop's Palace on Orkney and Scalloway Castle on Shetland, and meeting that old bastard Earl Patrick :)
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours At the Scalloway Museum, accross from Scalloway Castle, I bought a nice little booklet on the castle and on Patrick which in truth was not a booklet at all but a folded piece of printed paper. It said that when they wanted to execute Patrick he was unable to say the Lord's Prayer because he just did not know it, so they had to move the execution to a later time so that they could teach it to him :)
Recently discovered I descend from Euphemia Elphinstone through DNA and FamilySearch. Read an article that noted Orkney. Now finding your video! 🤯 Needless to say my mind is blown. I want to see, I have to see how far this genealogical rabbit hole goes. I knew Endsley was Scottish, but I never knew anything past the 1700’s when they came to America.
As a lover of all things history I am truly enjoying your videos. One day I hope to visit Scotland and see it for myself. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and enthusiasm for history! -from Texas
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It’s no that sunny this weekend!
It is in Perth
My ancestors by the name of Mudie/Moodie (in Dutch: Mudde) were some of the most ancient Lowland families to trace their ancestry back to Norsemen living on the Orkney Islands, claiming descendance from Harald Maddadsson. It is said in the Orkneyinga Saga. As such I very much would like to visit the Orkney Islands, in particular Mousa Broch.
Thank you for the stories, from Holland.
Fiona Grahame and I have a chapter about Patrick Stewart in our book Rebel Orkney (and in iScot about Thorfinn the Mighty). Let us know when you're coming back to Orkney Bruce. I enjoyed your show.
Thank Yah for all the work Yah do. I would like to learn more about the Orkney if your want to share .
Marvelous way to start my day! Thank you very much and have a great week! Ah. I see that you've been having a spot of bad weather. May things improve mightily!
It's been fine by me
Orkney is lovely with really lovely people. Thank you Bruce and yes please.
Mind seeing you at Birsay. Glad to have found your channel
Aye beuy good to see you up in Orkney. Be grand to get a wee tour o nort isles too. Make for a grand video on Gilbert Balfour at Notland castle, Westray
Another interesting snippet of the History of Scotland. As always, Bruce, an excellent post and I thank you for sharing 🌞
Many thanks
YES!
I adore everything that you do!
Orkney? Yes please ❤
One of my grandfathers was born in Kirkwall but the family moved to Edinburgh when he was just 5. Despite living the rest of his life in Edinburgh, Grandad never went back to Orkney because he thought it was rather a dull place (and told me not to bother going there myself). What a mistake! Anyway I did eventually go there in the week that would have been his 100th birthday and was absolutely fascinated with the history, from the Neolithic settlement at Skara Brae to the scuttled German Navy ships still partly visible in Scapa Flow - and lots more besides. I think few inhabitants of its Central Belt realise how important Orkney was in the early development of Scotland and that's a shame. I suppose, like me, they were not taught about Orkney in history lessons at their primary schools.
4:50, Ha, ha, ha, just couldn't stop laughing. Perfect delivery there, Bruce.
Orkney's been great each time I've visited -- lovely culture, lovely views.
Bruce, do a video about the mutants of Dundee!
yes please orkney tours
Great video as always my friend, love learning more about our history.
❤My mum told me my biological Dad is from Orkney 🇳🇴
Ohhh
I just learned a new word, although I understood its meaning from the context. I have never before seen the word "subsumed."
If I'd been asked to recite the joining of Scotland into the UK, I'd have likely said "absorbed." I love learning near words. Subsumed sounds so much better.
Every day's a school day
Another great educational video. How about a video on somewhere very obscure and remote, such as Benbecula or the Monach Islands?
Send the travel budget and I'll get it done😎
I'd love to visit Orkney at some point. My family has a connection to Orkney. My understanding is after windup on the loosing side of a clan war my ancestors lost their lands and were exiled to the Orkney. Don't know if any family is left in Orkney as most immigrated to the US in the 1820s and 1840s.
Yes would love to do a tour that Included Orkney.
Earls Palace, I thought that's where you were. I have visited 3 times and still have family there who recognise me as a misplaced son.
Thanks for making me enjoy history again.
Could you do one on Elgin? Bonnie Prince Charlie visit and also the wolf of badenoch and his burning of the cathedral 👍👍
See you in Lossiemouth 👍
I made one in Elgin about the last clan battle
Thanks for another great video Bruce!🏴 I loved it as usual...
Another brilliant video! Thank you!
Yes, please include Orkney. Neat stuff.
I lived at Stromness and later at Kirkwall, I was only a wee/peidy girl, very lovely, great time for me. Every year there was a pagent with a Queen of the Orkanys, I think it was for the Norwigen Princsess that married a Scottish King, Norway gave the islands to Scotland for her dowery.
Please let me know, was it not Malcom and Margaret?
Another great video, mòran taing. Any chance you’d consider making a video on John Murdoch? I’ve just recently learned about him and I think he’s one of the most underrated figures in Scottish history
I love all your videos. You take me to Scottland just watching them. Thank you❤
Always a good day when I wake up to a new video from this channel! Thanks again for your time!
I would love to hear more about Orkney sadly I’ve never been 👍🏴
I'm an American. I know so little of Scottish history, almost all of what you present is new to me. I'd like to hear about the islands or wherever else you want to go.
I love your style👍
Thank you sir
A video should be done on how men from Orkney influenced the fur trading in canada and now indigenous people in canada have ties to the people of orkney.
I hope you'll make one of my live shows in Canada in 2024. Shows in Halifax, Annapolis, New Glasgow, Moncton, Montreal, Perth , Ottawa, Toronto, Fergus, Seaforth, Calgary, Vancouver and Victoria. Most of the details are here www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
would love to. In meantime will post on social media because I am sure many people would enjoy see you in person.
Orkney has just added to the sum total of history thats all!
Have you done a video about Stornoway ?
About?
I have a book called skull and Saltire which mentions about the earl of Orkney Patrick Stewart also known as his pirate name Black Pate. He was also a victim of piracy as well from the English pirate Henry Gywnn, Patrick Stewart committed piracy around the same year Ruari the Turbulent was committing piracy. It also mentions in the book skull and Saltire that Patrick Stewart was also a bit like Ruari the Turbulent with his lifestyle like fine wine's.
@2:20 James III looks like he's got a lazy eye hahaha
...or a bad portrait painter. I guess we'll never know
Another cracking video Bruce, found it very interesting as part of my family traveled from Orkney to South Otago as part of the Scottish immigration scheme and free Church settlement. (Coincidentally, I named my son Torin, but that was more of an homage to a place on Skye, as mum is a McLeod...then I figured out it was the wrong mob of McLeods.... 😅)
Yeah. please. Orkney is the land of one of my ancesters.
I would love to visit Orkney. My husband's family came from there. Years ago someone from Orkney with the same last name contacted my father-in-law. (this was before the internet and quick, easy communications. I think he wanted to find out about what my FIL know about his family history in the US. Our last name apparently is common there. We visited Scotland a few years ago on tour but it did not go to Orkney. I've been trying to talk my husband into going ever since.
'Nother great presentation😎👍👏👏👏
Place🏴 is much more diverse for history and even ethnicity than any would ever readily let on.
... always wanted to make my way up there - or to Shetland.
Our lot come mainly from the Borders.
I'd met up with some lads a few years ago (fishermen up fae 'the broch' who'd both spent much time up around Orkney) who, after hearing the name said, "Aye, that's a 'north isles' name."
🤔... who'd have ever known... 😁
Aye that's a great idea Bruce would love to hear more about the history of the Orkneys all the best from the kingdom of Fife 😅
Interesting, this video makes me question the stories I thought I understood.
Thank you. Looks like I got some reading to do. The book recommendation is nice, thanks!
I hope to better understand where the early settlers of Iceland were retreating from. I should have known it was far more complicated than just some Norewegian (Rognvald) trying to claim a land already owned by the Picts and failing.
Please, let us see more of this gorgeous island!
Excellent!
Upvote from me,again,Bruce,espec. as it involved my family 😁: the Stewart 'revolt' in Orkney(1614) was put down by George Sinclair,5th Earl of Caithness,although initially George had given control of the LE forces to his illeg. half-bro.Henry Sinclair [my lineal ancestor],who bizarrely had a seizure and died,on the eve of the mainland fleet setting sail over to Kirkwall ! 👍
The Sinclairs of Caithness were the eventual family reps. of Thorfinn the Mighty,Jarl of Orkney-Shetland;and had a score to settle with the Northern Isles due to George and Henry's gt.-grandfather John Sinclair,3rd Earl of Caithness,dying in the 'internal' clan battle of Summerdale(1529) previously ! 🙄
P.S. Sinclair is still the most prominent family surname in the Northern Isles today.👌
I presume you know that the name Sinclair is from the Norman French Saint-Clair. Although the original Normans from Saint-Clair might not have been of Norse origin, they could well have been, so we'd have Vikings from Sweden/Denmark ending up in northern France, generations later crossing over to England, then their descendants moving up to Scotland with David I and moving further north in later centuries to get to finally battle with their x-times removed cousins in Orkney.
@@alicemilne1444 sounds pretty close to me in all fairness
@@alicemilne1444 Yes,I know,been a Clan Sinclair genealogist/historian for about 35-40 years now: it would seems that the 1379 granting of Norwegian Earldom of Orkney[and the Lordship of Shetland] to William Sinclair of Rosslyn/Roslin meant all the converging Viking bloodlines coming together again.👌👍
Orkney and shetland are a neglected part if Scotland. That is by others design. We need to look after them more. Like all Scottish islands. 🏴
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Please please do a quick vidya on Scot’s (no really proper scoats ) Hogmanay cos there is a few jackanapes out there that ken hee-haw tbf especially on the internet please brucie please no really please
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Hi Bruce! I definitely enjoy your tours and the history you give. I'm proud of my lineage, but if late I was told that because I was born in America I have no right to claim my heritage. What is your thoughts on this if you choose to answer. I know it's a possibility sticky question.
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I'm oten told by Americans that because my dad was from Ghana I have no right to claim Scottish heritage
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Thank you and my opinion is the blood is in our veins so we can claim it and be proud. I guess I am who I am and we can claim our heritage how ever we wish. ☺️🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸
Have a great day.