Mike, I came back to this video a bunch of times and once again yesterday as I was about to coat my 65 brake parts (shields, dust covers) and my steering rack protection plate. Thanks for the great video and all good advice!
Hello matlecomte You are very welcome=) I hope the video is of some good help. POR -15 is some amazing product but it is sensitive to its coating process for sure. Good Luck! and please let us know how your parts turn out!
Glad to see someone doing their own restoration, excellent work as well, instead of paying some shop 200K or more for the same. More satisfaction in doing it yourself as well.
Thanks Bob Yes restoration shops can be quite expensive and the higher the quality the higher it gets..Top level restos can reach 300-400K and more depending whats going on.. I agree with you there is great satisfaction in knowing the work and doing things yourself=)
This shows the value of planning the details, as well as experience with the materials. First Class work. The finished vehicle will be much better than new.
Hi Patrick Thanks so much for the nice compliment! and welcome to the channel I see you are a hands on guy too..Thats great! Its very rewarding to be handy and try things Restorations can really test us!
In Scotland, we have some terrible weather and an unhealthy obsession with road salt. I'm currently reluctant to drive even my old 996 without first discovering an effective approach to rust protection. Any suggestions would be welcome. Cheers.
Hi Patric WoW! Scotland is quite popular with Porsche brand..996 a beautiful car! Your timing is excellent Im working on a video this weekend and covering the undercoating process and behind the scenes coatings Ill try to help out and give you my thoughts on products and process there Thanks for the question and best of luck with those salty roads Cheers!
Hi Mike. It's fantastic watching the progress on your car and picking up great tips and techniques. :-) Have you had experience with POR-15 on previous projects? Have any of them seen much weather? How did they hold up long term? I sandblasted and painted my 914/4 engine tins with Wurth Rust Guard about 30 years ago. My understanding at the time was Wurth was just applying their label over top of the POR-15 can, and it certainly seemed to be the case. The engine has sat stored in an unheated garage in Toronto, Canada since then, and while it's still adhered well, there's definitely a patina to it. In places it almost looks like 120 grit sandpaper that has had a thin coat of semi-gloss paint applied over it. Now that I'm finally back to working on my project I'm also considering POR-15 for suspension bits and things that will not see much UV. Cheers, Dave.
Hello Dv Thanks Im not sure what Wurth was using for paint chemistry but it doesn't sound like a polyurethane finish..or it could have been but not necessarily high temperature rated. POR does make a proper engine coating suitable for high temps. I don't have any long time experience with POR-15 or experience with it in extreme weather conditions. I do have some longtime experience working with various finishes over the years. I would rate POR-15 a 10 out of 10 if applied correctly under correct conditions for durability and sealing. It would be a hard to break it down if not exposed to longterm UV. I think it would outlast just about any product on the market over a given period of say 50 years. Even powder coating will eventually fail under extreme UV or harsh conditions. Its worth a try! Try it on a couple small suspension parts and see if you like its results. Best purchased in pint size cans as once the lid is opened the air exposure will shorten the can life. Good Luck!
Hello Phillip Im a big fan of thread sealant/locker..Its a good lubricant threading in the screws, nuts and bolts. I don't like oil as eventually they will loosen up. I generally give my hardware a good cleaning if they are coated with any manufacturing oil before installing Also after electroplating any hardware it is extremely dry and thread sealant really help the thread in without galling
Will begin re-assembly of suspension parts during the next few weeks as its starting to get cold here!!! some fun and easy winter work in a cozy warm shop=)) Targeting for February finish paint..Temps will be very predictable 70 degrees
I have trouble believing that sandblasted part wont start rusting especially with only 1 coat. 2k green etch primer first or epoxy then 1 coat of the por15 would seem to be 10X safer if por15 will bond properly it...
any one with experience applying over car original painted NON-RUSTED undersides as a preventive step for a first winter in NE or is the topcoat the way to go
Hi Ricky you're welcome=) POR 15 sticks best on freshly sandblasted bare metal and can be used as a primer..I don't know if it will stick to your primer but perhaps try some test spot first and see. Im not familiar with RC900 but have used some rust converters.. I would think you should be okay there but a test first might save some trouble just to be safe. Good Luck!
Hi Mike! I'm right now going through this process and I was wondering if you would recommend this over powder coating and why? I have powdercoating easily available close to my house and price is very cheap. This two pieces from the video would be around 20$. I'm just wondering if the finish would be as hard with powder coating as it looks it is with POR 15.
Hello Eazr4u I don't think I would recommend POR 15 over powder coating but I would put it on even plane with harness and ability to control the project without sending things out. Its a beautiful finish and finishes similar to porcelain. Powder coating is a great finish also but I'm not a huge fan of heating up metals unnecessarily I prefer a cold finish .. but its mainly preference Either way you decide they are both good choice!
Hi Bob POR is a great finish for trim bits and suspension. It really doesn't need any top coating unless exposed to UV for extended periods of time. Works best straight up! I like it better than powder..almost a porcelain looking finish and very tough
Mike, I came back to this video a bunch of times and once again yesterday as I was about to coat my 65 brake parts (shields, dust covers) and my steering rack protection plate. Thanks for the great video and all good advice!
Hello matlecomte
You are very welcome=) I hope the video is of some good help.
POR -15 is some amazing product but it is sensitive to its coating process for sure.
Good Luck! and please let us know how your parts turn out!
Glad to see someone doing their own restoration, excellent work as well, instead of paying some shop 200K or more for the same. More satisfaction in doing it yourself as well.
Thanks Bob
Yes restoration shops can be quite expensive and the higher the quality
the higher it gets..Top level restos can reach 300-400K and more depending
whats going on..
I agree with you there is great satisfaction in knowing the work and doing things yourself=)
This shows the value of planning the details, as well as experience with the materials. First Class work. The finished vehicle will be much better than new.
Hi Patrick
Thanks so much for the nice compliment! and welcome to the channel
I see you are a hands on guy too..Thats great! Its very rewarding to be handy and try things
Restorations can really test us!
In Scotland, we have some terrible weather and an unhealthy obsession with road salt. I'm currently reluctant to drive even my old 996 without first discovering an effective approach to rust protection. Any suggestions would be welcome. Cheers.
Hi Patric
WoW! Scotland is quite popular with Porsche brand..996 a beautiful car!
Your timing is excellent
Im working on a video this weekend and covering the undercoating process and behind the scenes coatings
Ill try to help out and give you my thoughts on products and process there
Thanks for the question and best of luck with those salty roads
Cheers!
Mike thanks for all the detail and sharing your techniques. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Hi Bronco
Its my pleasure=)
Hopefully some of this stuff can be helpful and head off potential problems
Thanks for the comment!
Yes! An action video!!! Thanks again.
Thanks! I’m going to be doing this tomorrow and yours was one of the best!
Good Luck CR!
@@MikesRestorations came out awesome! Your technique was key, thank you again.
You remind me of Bob ross at the painting part. Happy little trees
Thanks emilkungen..we want a happy little Porsche=)
Hi Mike. It's fantastic watching the progress on your car and picking up great tips and techniques. :-) Have you had experience with POR-15 on previous projects? Have any of them seen much weather? How did they hold up long term? I sandblasted and painted my 914/4 engine tins with Wurth Rust Guard about 30 years ago. My understanding at the time was Wurth was just applying their label over top of the POR-15 can, and it certainly seemed to be the case. The engine has sat stored in an unheated garage in Toronto, Canada since then, and while it's still adhered well, there's definitely a patina to it. In places it almost looks like 120 grit sandpaper that has had a thin coat of semi-gloss paint applied over it. Now that I'm finally back to working on my project I'm also considering POR-15 for suspension bits and things that will not see much UV. Cheers, Dave.
Hello Dv Thanks
Im not sure what Wurth was using for paint chemistry but it doesn't sound like a polyurethane finish..or it could have been but not
necessarily high temperature rated. POR does make a proper engine coating suitable for high temps.
I don't have any long time experience with POR-15 or experience with it in extreme weather conditions.
I do have some longtime experience working with various finishes over the years. I would rate POR-15 a 10 out of 10 if applied
correctly under correct conditions for durability and sealing. It would be a hard to break it down if not exposed to longterm UV.
I think it would outlast just about any product on the market over a given period of say 50 years.
Even powder coating will eventually fail under extreme UV or harsh conditions.
Its worth a try! Try it on a couple small suspension parts and see if you like its results.
Best purchased in pint size cans as once the lid is opened the air exposure will shorten the can life.
Good Luck!
What do you recommend on preventing rust on the threads? just a little threadlocker or oil on the bolt?
Hello Phillip
Im a big fan of thread sealant/locker..Its a good lubricant threading in the screws, nuts and bolts.
I don't like oil as eventually they will loosen up.
I generally give my hardware a good cleaning if they are coated with any manufacturing oil before installing
Also after electroplating any hardware it is extremely dry and thread sealant really help the thread in without galling
That stuff's amazing
Hey Phil
Yes I agree its quite the wonder coating
Perfect for restorations!
Mike M And so the re-build begins ?
Will begin re-assembly of suspension parts during the next few weeks as
its starting to get cold here!!! some fun and easy winter work in a cozy warm shop=))
Targeting for February finish paint..Temps will be very predictable 70 degrees
Did you also do the inside of the car's pan with POR15?
I have trouble believing that sandblasted part wont start rusting especially with only 1 coat. 2k green etch primer first or epoxy then 1 coat of the por15 would seem to be 10X safer if por15 will bond properly it...
any one with experience applying over car original painted NON-RUSTED undersides as a preventive step for a first winter in NE or is the topcoat the way to go
OK to get into a threaded hole just run a tap into the hole after the rust seal is thoroughly dry
Hi Bob
Great Tip=)Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the video. Do you know if POR15 will go down well over primer or Dinitrol Rc900 rust converter?
Many thanks
Hi Ricky you're welcome=)
POR 15 sticks best on freshly sandblasted bare metal and can be used as a primer..I don't know if it will stick to your primer but perhaps try some test spot first and see. Im not familiar with RC900 but have used some rust converters..
I would think you should be okay there but a test first might save some trouble just to be safe.
Good Luck!
Hi Mike! I'm right now going through this process and I was wondering if you would recommend this over powder coating and why? I have powdercoating easily available close to my house and price is very cheap. This two pieces from the video would be around 20$. I'm just wondering if the finish would be as hard with powder coating as it looks it is with POR 15.
Hello Eazr4u
I don't think I would recommend POR 15 over powder coating but I would put it on even plane with harness and ability to control the project without sending things out. Its a beautiful finish and finishes similar to porcelain.
Powder coating is a great finish also but I'm not a huge fan of heating up metals unnecessarily
I prefer a cold finish .. but its mainly preference
Either way you decide they are both good choice!
are you putting a coating over the POR or leaving it as is? I think the POR must be as tough or tougher than powder coat
Hi Bob
POR is a great finish for trim bits and suspension. It really doesn't need any top coating unless exposed to UV for extended periods of time.
Works best straight up!
I like it better than powder..almost a porcelain looking finish and very tough