Practice...Practice.. Practice .. Record your Pastor or who ever, off the board best to get a direct out of just their mic if possible. Then put the recording in a DAW. That way you can work with the sound "off line" . Or you can play the recording through the system and practice boosting and cutting different frequencies. One of the best pieces of advice I got when I started mixing was "Learn your frequencies.." Much like a musician learns notes learn to identify the frequencies..
Great tutorial as always! I would like a guide that's a bit more comprehensive though, that deals with how a headset mic should sit next to the face, how to soundcheck (preacher always whispers with the soundcheck then booms during the sermon), how to prevent breathing noises in the mic (rolling up the hpf helps a bit there), how to prevent those saliva noises (which frequencies to look at), how to evaluate and prevent feedback, etc. Just got thrown into the deep end (I like that) behind the mixer and need some really good pointers to do more than just pushing the fader. One thing though... it's amazing how many sound tech tutorials there are on youtube with crappy, badly mixed intro music and a voice or voice-over that sounds really bad. You would think the sound tech tutorials are not only nice to learn, but at a minimum really nice to listen to soundqualitywise. Not so. Amazing. However... your tutorials sound great!!! Always perfect! Thanks!
Practice, Practice, Practice!!! We don't need the practice Randy. What we need is some payin' gigs!! Sorry, couldn't help myself. Really enjoy the videos and they have helped me tremendously. I just installed a Behringer X32 Rack for our church and all the new tech. is kicking my butt. But, I keep learning. Thanks.
I just had my first tech solo, only 2 months after starting to mix, I’m self taught so being called out by the pastor in the middle of a preaching was very embarrassing 😭 thanks for this info
Thanks for the reply, I actually agree. Unfortunately I don’t think I have ever heard that version of the saying until now. “Permanent “ is much more accurate than “perfect”. Now I can actually use that phrase without some sort of caveat.
Hmm. Recently took over AV at my small church. Equipment is all 1992 Peavy (spelling?) And so I have a basic sound board. I'll just find some recordings of our very dynamic pastor, former USMC, and mess with my high mid low knobs. I have a full graphic equalizer that has mechanical dip switches but it isnt in the loop right now. Signal compressor is off too because it is 28 years old and I couldnt figure out how to use it....
Maybe it's time for an upgrade? BTW stay away from the graphic EQ unless you have no other options. Makes the response really lumpy and strange - quite far from linear or smooth
I use Ken Nordine’s Word Jazz, silly poems with Ken’s Legendary voice, he was “The Voice” you heard during the coming attractions at the movie theater. I usually get a few curious looks from anyone who happens to hear my sound check. I also look for the shyest person and have them check the mic, i want someone who is terrified of public speaking because i know they will pucker, lower their voice in proportion to what they hear coming from the PA, i find this is great for setting for the absolute worst potentially feedback inducing presenters, .....if you do this, make sure you have something for them to read, the point is to ring out without truly torturing them, tho watching them initially squirm can be entertaining......silver lining, this may help them overcome stage fright and fear of public speaking....you will probably have to bribe them, did somebody say donuts??? And make sure to let them know how much you appreciate their assistance, everyone loves a please and thank you sandwich with extra slices of thank yous.....once again, as some people get uncomfortable with praise, this may make them squirm, oh psychology how i love thee..then slap a compressor, usually a multiband so i can zero in on the proximity effect that may arise from potential capsule eaters....with the high threshold and ratio...by planning for the worst, ive found i can dial in a speaking voice pretty quickly, without feeding back versus setting for the ideal and then having to slice and dice my way to a feedback free somewhat ok sound...Love your videos, i have referenced them when im teaching classes for my IATSE local
I did one on handheld mics, and touched a bit on wireless. Let me know if you still have questions after this one: ua-cam.com/video/sk96h-E9V94/v-deo.html
heres what we have and dont have. what we dont have in our service. No bands or intruments. just singing. we have 5 mics general only one used at a time. looking for a mixer that can be controlled via an iPad. probably 12 channel at most. Now preachers mic. Should it be equed, compressed and reverbed?
Soundcraft has a nice tablet-controlled system, as well as the Behringer Xair18. Yes - you'll need some EQ and compression, but no reverb on speaking mics in my opinion.
If I can isolate it during sound check, I'll try to get the sound-checker (if not the pastor) to carefully move so that they're on the edge of the feedback, and then pull it out as I find it with my EQ (or RTA if I have one). If it's on the fly... gotta just try and be a sound ninja. But hopefully you can avoid that.
Great Lesson. I am a Live Sound Engineer and I have a rental company. I am looking for Used D&B or L acoustic V dosc boxes for sale . Also, an SSL Console, Let me know if you know any equipment available for sale.
thanks James! I have had some difficulty with momentary speakers with the good old SM58 and I tell them the ice cream cone technique. They almost always then hold the mic close but usually bring it close vertically so a LOT of breath intake comes through the side of the mic. Any frequencies on the fly that we can dial that breath out?
Unfortunately, the same frequencies of the breath sound are the “presence” in the actual words, so you’re sunk there. You’ll either need a different mic or different technique and placement
Avoid Sound Tech Solo ?!? Newbee question coming or just Maybe I’m to tired 😴 after working nights shifts but it’s my first time hearing that expression and don’t get it 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ could U fill me in on what it means!
Get the mic as close to the source as possible, and get a directional mic. They even make cardioid headset mics if that’s what they want to do. But don’t underestimate a handheld mic (if they’ll hold it the right way) to get the best signal-to-noise ratio
Agson Purba / Attaway’s advice is spot on. From experience, I have had excellent results with headsets, both omnidirectional and cardioid. If the pastor is unwilling to use a headset, I have used cardioid condenser Lav’s; however, the success of these is dependent on several factors. For those who speak loud enough, but simply have a voice that is difficult to reproduce accurately with either of the above, super-cardioid handheld wireless like the Sennheiser 945 is a good alternative.
The audio guy at my church lacks a lot of knowledge which I'm ok with but he thinks he knows a lot and blames the musicians and singers whenever something goes wrong.
Man you have no idea how much knowledge you have been giving to me about sound systems, thank you!
Glad to help!
Practice...Practice.. Practice .. Record your Pastor or who ever, off the board best to get a direct out of just their mic if possible. Then put the recording in a DAW. That way you can work with the sound "off line" . Or you can play the recording through the system and practice boosting and cutting different frequencies. One of the best pieces of advice I got when I started mixing was "Learn your frequencies.." Much like a musician learns notes learn to identify the frequencies..
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Great video
Practice! "Sound tech solo," that's hilarious!
It’s only hilarious until you take one 😭
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Great tutorial as always! I would like a guide that's a bit more comprehensive though, that deals with how a headset mic should sit next to the face, how to soundcheck (preacher always whispers with the soundcheck then booms during the sermon), how to prevent breathing noises in the mic (rolling up the hpf helps a bit there), how to prevent those saliva noises (which frequencies to look at), how to evaluate and prevent feedback, etc. Just got thrown into the deep end (I like that) behind the mixer and need some really good pointers to do more than just pushing the fader. One thing though... it's amazing how many sound tech tutorials there are on youtube with crappy, badly mixed intro music and a voice or voice-over that sounds really bad. You would think the sound tech tutorials are not only nice to learn, but at a minimum really nice to listen to soundqualitywise. Not so. Amazing. However... your tutorials sound great!!! Always perfect! Thanks!
Great ideas! Thanks Jelte!
Oh, and I deleted the live video I did where the audio was distorted. Trying to run a lav into a phone didn't work so well 😂😂
@@AttawayAudio you live and you learn... :)
PRACTICE :D keep it up!! May God use all your work to help spread the gospel and build up His church!!
Amen and amen! Thanks Bernardo!
Practice, Practice, Practice!!! We don't need the practice Randy. What we need is some payin' gigs!! Sorry, couldn't help myself. Really enjoy the videos and they have helped me tremendously. I just installed a Behringer X32 Rack for our church and all the new tech. is kicking my butt. But, I keep learning. Thanks.
lol nice.
With that 70k board you're gonna get phenomenal sound!
It's a great console, but the operator is still the biggest factor
Practice to avoid sound tech solo! Haha. Love that.
For reeeeaaaaaalllllllll 😂
I just had my first tech solo, only 2 months after starting to mix, I’m self taught so being called out by the pastor in the middle of a preaching was very embarrassing 😭 thanks for this info
ouch.. sorry!
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Love you too bro
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Thanks for the great tutorial video! God bless! :))
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Not to be that guy, but practice makes permanent 😂 Perfect practice makes perfect.
Thanks for the reply, I actually agree. Unfortunately I don’t think I have ever heard that version of the saying until now. “Permanent “ is much more accurate than “perfect”. Now I can actually use that phrase without some sort of caveat.
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Practice. Already been but didn’t have a good idea exactly where to look.
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Hmm. Recently took over AV at my small church. Equipment is all 1992 Peavy (spelling?) And so I have a basic sound board. I'll just find some recordings of our very dynamic pastor, former USMC, and mess with my high mid low knobs. I have a full graphic equalizer that has mechanical dip switches but it isnt in the loop right now. Signal compressor is off too because it is 28 years old and I couldnt figure out how to use it....
Maybe it's time for an upgrade? BTW stay away from the graphic EQ unless you have no other options. Makes the response really lumpy and strange - quite far from linear or smooth
@@AttawayAudio will get a compressor at some point. I found the books for all the equpment which helped big time
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Naw man, YOU’RE the best
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Sir please make a sensitivity setting and gain structure for live
It’s on the way friend! Thanks Shyam!
I use Ken Nordine’s Word Jazz, silly poems with Ken’s Legendary voice, he was “The Voice” you heard during the coming attractions at the movie theater. I usually get a few curious looks from anyone who happens to hear my sound check. I also look for the shyest person and have them check the mic, i want someone who is terrified of public speaking because i know they will pucker, lower their voice in proportion to what they hear coming from the PA, i find this is great for setting for the absolute worst potentially feedback inducing presenters, .....if you do this, make sure you have something for them to read, the point is to ring out without truly torturing them, tho watching them initially squirm can be entertaining......silver lining, this may help them overcome stage fright and fear of public speaking....you will probably have to bribe them, did somebody say donuts??? And make sure to let them know how much you appreciate their assistance, everyone loves a please and thank you sandwich with extra slices of thank yous.....once again, as some people get uncomfortable with praise, this may make them squirm, oh psychology how i love thee..then slap a compressor, usually a multiband so i can zero in on the proximity effect that may arise from potential capsule eaters....with the high threshold and ratio...by planning for the worst, ive found i can dial in a speaking voice pretty quickly, without feeding back versus setting for the ideal and then having to slice and dice my way to a feedback free somewhat ok sound...Love your videos, i have referenced them when im teaching classes for my IATSE local
Multiband comp is great for spoken word. Thanks for the tips!
Can you do one about using a handheld wireless for the Preach/MC mic?
I did one on handheld mics, and touched a bit on wireless. Let me know if you still have questions after this one: ua-cam.com/video/sk96h-E9V94/v-deo.html
heres what we have and dont have. what we dont have in our service. No bands or intruments. just singing. we have 5 mics general only one used at a time. looking for a mixer that can be controlled via an iPad. probably 12 channel at most. Now preachers mic. Should it be equed, compressed and reverbed?
Soundcraft has a nice tablet-controlled system, as well as the Behringer Xair18. Yes - you'll need some EQ and compression, but no reverb on speaking mics in my opinion.
@@AttawayAudio did buy a Soundcraft ui-12.
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Great lesson! What's your usual plan of attack when there's feedback from comb filtering?
If I can isolate it during sound check, I'll try to get the sound-checker (if not the pastor) to carefully move so that they're on the edge of the feedback, and then pull it out as I find it with my EQ (or RTA if I have one). If it's on the fly... gotta just try and be a sound ninja. But hopefully you can avoid that.
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I'm well aware of how well you practice, mr. golden ears 😁
Have you done any stuff on mixing audio in LiveStreams? BTW, love your last name.
Yes! Another Attaway! I’ve done a lot of livestream mixing but haven’t done any videos on that specifically. It’s a whole ‘nother world.
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Great Lesson. I am a Live Sound Engineer and I have a rental company. I am looking for Used D&B or L acoustic V dosc boxes for sale . Also, an SSL Console, Let me know if you know any equipment available for sale.
I wish I had extra of those! Or any to begin with!
thanks James! I have had some difficulty with momentary speakers with the good old SM58 and I tell them the ice cream cone technique. They almost always then hold the mic close but usually bring it close vertically so a LOT of breath intake comes through the side of the mic. Any frequencies on the fly that we can dial that breath out?
Unfortunately, the same frequencies of the breath sound are the “presence” in the actual words, so you’re sunk there. You’ll either need a different mic or different technique and placement
A windscreen pop filter can help out
Perhaps best set EQ so that they are unintelligible.
Living up to your screen name I see 🤣
@@AttawayAudioPastors, pfff. Rhymes to actors.
Haha #soundtechsolo that was too funny 😂
It’s funny til it happens to you 😱
Avoid Sound Tech Solo ?!?
Newbee question coming or just Maybe I’m to tired 😴 after working nights shifts but it’s my first time hearing that expression and don’t get it 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ could U fill me in on what it means!
A #soundtechsolo is when the sound tech makes a mistake and everyone turns around to look at them. It’s to be avoided at all costs 😂
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Do you have any tips how to treat a pastor voice in a reverberant room?
Get the mic as close to the source as possible, and get a directional mic. They even make cardioid headset mics if that’s what they want to do. But don’t underestimate a handheld mic (if they’ll hold it the right way) to get the best signal-to-noise ratio
Thank you
Agson Purba / Attaway’s advice is spot on. From experience, I have had excellent results with headsets, both omnidirectional and cardioid. If the pastor is unwilling to use a headset, I have used cardioid condenser Lav’s; however, the success of these is dependent on several factors. For those who speak loud enough, but simply have a voice that is difficult to reproduce accurately with either of the above, super-cardioid handheld wireless like the Sennheiser 945 is a good alternative.
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The audio guy at my church lacks a lot of knowledge which I'm ok with but he thinks he knows a lot and blames the musicians and singers whenever something goes wrong.
have you seen Brene brown's ted talk on blaming? it's a good one
Brene is one of my mentors (she just doesn't know it)
LaCroix!? isn't that a christian rapper?
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...makes permanent... enjoy that podcast, too!
@@AttawayAudio will be in KC in 2 weeks. Hope to run into you.
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