No se por que defienden el Mazda si es obvió que en cuanto el turbo empezó a meter libras y con la caja dsg lo dejo al pedo 😎.. no turbo no Party!! Mazda no es un auto deportivo, solo lo fue el Mazda speed 3 ese wey si jala pero el 2.5 skyactive no es para correr!
Y aparte de que seguramente la altitud mató a la potencia del Mazditaa. Ahí está la ventaja de los autos turbo. (Y perdon por revivir un comentario tan viejo xd)
@@vicenteesteve3131 the problem its that the vw has a turbo and the mazda dont, and if it is manual you can regulate the time you want to spend in a gear, so fuck of mazda shit
Well that is impossible as fuck, and i am saying that as a former Golf mk6 owner. Latest car and driver Mazda 3 2.5 automatic test car made 60mph in 6.8 seconds and Golf 1.4 tsi can made 60 8.0 second at max. I dont know what is wrong about mazda or goes well (!) for VW, that video is just utterly misleading.
I don't say it is staged, but i think you knew that things go bad for Mazda in the race, and you thought "whatever i'll upload the video". Mazda had a nice start (as it should be), suddenly he just ease off the throttle and then totally quits the race. You made your 0-100kmh run at about 8 seconds according your speedo, well we both know that 2.5lt Mazda 3 can't manage to do worse with a nice start like that.
Well Its possible above sea level. That Mazda 3 2.5 with AT might be clocking 10s-11s to 60mph @Mexico City altitudes (7,200 ft), on the other hand any 1.4 tsi can still easily clock 8s regardless altitude...
either the Mazda driver messed up his shifts badly or its not 2.5l or your engine is not stock. Mazda simply has better 0-60time. I have driven the Mazda and I own a Golf VII 1.4TSI
If the mazda 3 here is an automatic if it does not have a stick or paddle shifters don't look for anything else mazda's automatics don't have such a good reputation btw and especially when compared with a manual and a good driver that knows how to shift gears well
You even contradicted yourself by saying in some comments that it was stock and you were then answering to other peoples telling them it's air filter and straight pipe upgrade that's weird man the way some peoples are im just a bit confused why do you answer to some comments by saying both cars are stock and then you change your stuff and say that there is some upgrade but you mentioned in a comment that the mazda 3 was auto and you were in a golf manual so that's fine
Alex M como cuales pa, haha en interior los japoneses ni en pex se siente la solidez del golf contra el plástico barato que parece que tiene puertas de hule y en motor mazda siempre a tenido el mismo motor viejo de siempre que en estos tiempos son de risa, hahaha ni Android Auto tiene alv, pero entiendo que el golf más barato cuesta lo que el mazda más caro, pero mazda no es mal carro, animo :)
Jsjshfjskska Gshsgdh bueno en mi opinion el Mazda 3 Gt tiene por mucho mejor interior que el golf la calidad se siente como bmw o auto de gama alta el sistema de sonido Bosé es impresionante el motor te da un gran rendimiento y además es el más económico del segmento estéticamente de afuera es mucho más atractivo , en mi opinión verdad cada quien piensa lo que quiere
Why didn't you mention the fact that this VW has straight pipe and air filter ??!! It's just that simple put it in the description of your video it's true you answered one of your viewer's comments by yes it's straight pipe and air filter what the hell man i mean the tsi engine and any modern turbo engine will deliver good performances but please don't hide the fact that this golf has been tuned a bit and the mazda 3 was probably an automatic transmission wich explains the way it was slow
You don't know what your talking about this vw has a straight pipe and an air filter he mentioned it HIMSELF in his comments of his own video plus this is an automatic mazda 3 vs a manual vw golf so that plays a part
@@AA-hj1rb 2 Mazda’s actually. An older Mazda 3 and a 2011 mazda 6 I don’t know what engines but I beat the mazda 6 multiple times. Power to weight is amazing
Agreed, and while the MZ 2.5 is capable of great MPG (for a N/A gas 2.5L) it does so via a very tall final drive ratio. Second gear is good for over 60 mph. Add in a heavier car, auto vs manual, and extra passenger, it was a legit pass
It's not 186 vs 250 the 2.5 mazda 3 is supposed to have 250 nm and the 1.4 tsi also something like that but it's just that with a turbo you have these 250 nm at very low like 1500rpm while without a turbo you will get it but at 3500rpm And like i said in some other commebts on this videos that mazda 3 is probably an automatic and mazda's automatics have kind of a bad reputation plus the VW driver here is shifting gears really well
The power delivery of a turbo is nearly like instantly delivering all the power when you press the accelerator but with a naturally aspirated engine it's more linear
ua-cam.com/video/rwsaW7HDrz4/v-deo.html or just check out that video of a mazda 3 2.5 with paddle shifters and he's not accelerating in a real straight line but it's still pretty fast though and h'es not even shifting really well to be honest so if it was with really good shifting and in a real straight line it would be really fast
ua-cam.com/video/3fdty1ZCKG8/v-deo.html check that video out at the end he does a 0 to 60 with a mazda 3 2.0 155hp manual and it seems pretty fast even by the times he officially made it was 8.5sec 0 to 60 for the 2.0 155hp 210 nm manual so a 2.5 manual with pretty much 250 nm 185hp has to be faster oh yeah with a good driver of course
Una caja dsg es muchísimo más rápido que cualquier humano metiendo el cambio, se nota que no sabes de autos solo por defender tu Mazda lento jajaja, yo tengo un gli 2.0 turbo y un Audi 3 1.8 turbo y ni de pedo me ganan los Mazditas 😎
Que esperaban los mazdetos, ganar? El 1.4 TSI hace más con menos que ese 2.5 aspirado de Mazda, y para los que cree que Mazda es deportivo, nada más lejos de la realidad. Tendrán diseños que se podrán ver más deportivos, pero donde de verdad importa es en la conducción, y es allí donde no lo son. Y para todos los genios que desmeritan al Golf TSI, no saben el gran carro que es. Yo con el mío le he partido la madre a más de uno que cree que le van a echar polvo a uno. Ford fiesta Mazda 3 Mazda 2, etc En fin, ese 1.4 TSI es una maravilla, si se le saca el jugo en la conducción con un buen punta y taco, entrando duro a curvas le tiras polvo a más de un lucido que cree que va en un superdeportivo, como los de Mazda por ejemplo.
Los que defienden Mazda es porque nunca han sentido el poder de un 1.4 TSI o un 2.0 TSI, esos motores de Mazda no se pueden comparar con la genialidad y tecnología Alemana. Mazda es para los que creen que saben de carros y no saben nada.
@@davidperezm1903 Así es bro. Primero tienes que manejar un Golf TSI para saber la máquina que es, es un lobo con piel de oveja que deja viendo luces traseras a más de uno.
JAJAJAJAJA YO CREO QUE TE GANO UN MAZDA POR ESO TE ARDE EL CULO NO MAMES UN GOLF ESTÁ LEJOS DE GANARLE A UN MAZDA A ALTURA DEL MAR YO TUVE IN GOLF Y ESTA LEJOS DE GANARLE A UN MAZDA Y ESOS GOLFITOS A NIVEL DEL MAR QUE SE TOPEN NO HAY DUDA ALGUNA DE QUE EL MAZDA GA
@@johneduarvm6058 jajaja tampoco exageres, es un carro lento con sus 150 caballitos, hasta el mini Cooper 3 cilindros le gana en el arrancón. La única versión del Golf que tiene galleta es el Golf R, aún el GTI lo siento muy lerdo.
Y bueno si, tu cc es 2.0 contra un 1.4, un poco logico que les ganes no?, si no les ganas es de burro, en todo caso comparate con un golf r, que 2.0 tsi tmb, boludo
No se por que defienden el Mazda si es obvió que en cuanto el turbo empezó a meter libras y con la caja dsg lo dejo al pedo 😎.. no turbo no Party!! Mazda no es un auto deportivo, solo lo fue el Mazda speed 3 ese wey si jala pero el 2.5 skyactive no es para correr!
Y aparte de que seguramente la altitud mató a la potencia del Mazditaa. Ahí está la ventaja de los autos turbo.
(Y perdon por revivir un comentario tan viejo xd)
no way that this is a 2.5 mazda.... maybe your golf is tuned or maybe the mazda driver sleep well...
Amit Prulov It was. We both have similar torque numbers, 1.4 is much lighter than the 2.5 and auto vs manual.
This must be above sea level so don't be that surprised
Carlos This race took place in Monterrey that is approximately 1,000 ft AGL or 300 meters, so it wasn't a factor, Mazda's are slow as fuck haha.
I have a mazda 3 2010 2,5l and my car is faster than this mazda, also, I count your 0-100 time and my car is faster , this video is bullshit
@@vicenteesteve3131 the problem its that the vw has a turbo and the mazda dont, and if it is manual you can regulate the time you want to spend in a gear, so fuck of mazda shit
Well that is impossible as fuck, and i am saying that as a former Golf mk6 owner. Latest car and driver Mazda 3 2.5 automatic test car made 60mph in 6.8 seconds and Golf 1.4 tsi can made 60 8.0 second at max. I dont know what is wrong about mazda or goes well (!) for VW, that video is just utterly misleading.
I guess the Mazda had a bad start, or I had a particularly good one. Either way, this wasn't staged.
I don't say it is staged, but i think you knew that things go bad for Mazda in the race, and you thought "whatever i'll upload the video". Mazda had a nice start (as it should be), suddenly he just ease off the throttle and then totally quits the race. You made your 0-100kmh run at about 8 seconds according your speedo, well we both know that 2.5lt Mazda 3 can't manage to do worse with a nice start like that.
ankbrq I really didn't know how it was going to go; I would've uploaded the video regardless of the outcome.
Well Its possible above sea level. That Mazda 3 2.5 with AT might be clocking 10s-11s to 60mph @Mexico City altitudes (7,200 ft), on the other hand any 1.4 tsi can still easily clock 8s regardless altitude...
either the Mazda driver messed up his shifts badly or its not 2.5l or your engine is not stock. Mazda simply has better 0-60time. I have driven the Mazda and I own a Golf VII 1.4TSI
projectill My guess is driver. The Mazda also had another passenger.
Mazda looks good but Golf is the King!
If the mazda 3 here is an automatic if it does not have a stick or paddle shifters don't look for anything else mazda's automatics don't have such a good reputation btw and especially when compared with a manual and a good driver that knows how to shift gears well
And i have to be honest the vw driver here shifts gears pretty well
Los mazda están lejos de ser autos rápidos... (Excepto el mx5), pero el resto con su 2.5 son malos. Si tuvieran el nuevo motor otra cosa sería...
I think it's a Mazda 2 sedan or Yaris R
beto lopez No, Mazda 3
You even contradicted yourself by saying in some comments that it was stock and you were then answering to other peoples telling them it's air filter and straight pipe upgrade that's weird man the way some peoples are im just a bit confused why do you answer to some comments by saying both cars are stock and then you change your stuff and say that there is some upgrade but you mentioned in a comment that the mazda 3 was auto and you were in a golf manual so that's fine
Golf ❤️
are both cars stock?
Yes.
either mazda's driver is sleepy, or even it is unfair
twincharger? Stok?
Глеб Галицкий Stock with performance filter and straight pipe.
That's what im talking about....
Performance filter and straight pipe gives you some better performance it's a fact even if it's not much it still is something
Un Mazda 3 GT usando las paletas de cambios y en modo sport le gana al golf 1.4
Yo también esperaba que ganara el Mazda. Tenía copiloto y yo iba solo, pero aun así no creo que haya hecho mucha diferencia.
Los motores aspirados no valen queso hahaha más que los primeros 3 metros solo para eso son
Jsjshfjskska Gshsgdh aún así el Mazda le gana en todo al golf , es mejor carro por mucho en todos aspectos
Alex M como cuales pa, haha en interior los japoneses ni en pex se siente la solidez del golf contra el plástico barato que parece que tiene puertas de hule y en motor mazda siempre a tenido el mismo motor viejo de siempre que en estos tiempos son de risa, hahaha ni Android Auto tiene alv, pero entiendo que el golf más barato cuesta lo que el mazda más caro, pero mazda no es mal carro, animo :)
Jsjshfjskska Gshsgdh bueno en mi opinion el Mazda 3 Gt tiene por mucho mejor interior que el golf la calidad se siente como bmw o auto de gama alta el sistema de sonido Bosé es impresionante el motor te da un gran rendimiento y además es el más económico del segmento estéticamente de afuera es mucho más atractivo , en mi opinión verdad cada quien piensa lo que quiere
Golf stock?
Alejandro García Tubería directa y filtro de aire.
Cuánto te costó ponerle la tubería Vicente
Why didn't you mention the fact that this VW has straight pipe and air filter ??!! It's just that simple put it in the description of your video it's true you answered one of your viewer's comments by yes it's straight pipe and air filter what the hell man i mean the tsi engine and any modern turbo engine will deliver good performances but please don't hide the fact that this golf has been tuned a bit and the mazda 3 was probably an automatic transmission wich explains the way it was slow
At the time it wasn't straight piped and it was running the stock airbox. If it was straight piped, It would be more noticeable in the video.
I have a Jetta with the same engine and I put most daily's to shame, I've beaten mazdas before too, these people dont know what they're talking about
I own a 2.5 3 and have beaten pretty easily Jetta tsi and gold TSI 1.4s, civic turbo, Mazda 6 etc, it's not a fast car, but it's no slouch for sure
You don't know what your talking about this vw has a straight pipe and an air filter he mentioned it HIMSELF in his comments of his own video plus this is an automatic mazda 3 vs a manual vw golf so that plays a part
Plus i wonder what mazdas and how many you've beaten hahaha
@@AA-hj1rb 2 Mazda’s actually. An older Mazda 3 and a 2011 mazda 6 I don’t know what engines but I beat the mazda 6 multiple times. Power to weight is amazing
Golf not stock
186 vs 250 torque made the difference
Agreed, and while the MZ 2.5 is capable of great MPG (for a N/A gas 2.5L) it does so via a very tall final drive ratio. Second gear is good for over 60 mph. Add in a heavier car, auto vs manual, and extra passenger, it was a legit pass
It's not 186 vs 250 the 2.5 mazda 3 is supposed to have 250 nm and the 1.4 tsi also something like that but it's just that with a turbo you have these 250 nm at very low like 1500rpm while without a turbo you will get it but at 3500rpm
And like i said in some other commebts on this videos that mazda 3 is probably an automatic and mazda's automatics have kind of a bad reputation plus the VW driver here is shifting gears really well
The power delivery of a turbo is nearly like instantly delivering all the power when you press the accelerator but with a naturally aspirated engine it's more linear
Bro que torque de agencia trae el golf 2017?
250 Nm
Vicente Esteve en las fichas técnicas que encuentro me aparece con 184 y la verdad ando por comprarme uno pero solo si su torque es ese de 250
Horadejugar Pienso que es debido a las unidades. Son aproximadamente 184 lb. pie de torque
184 lb y 250 NM tiene el golf
ua-cam.com/video/rwsaW7HDrz4/v-deo.html or just check out that video of a mazda 3 2.5 with paddle shifters and he's not accelerating in a real straight line but it's still pretty fast though and h'es not even shifting really well to be honest so if it was with really good shifting and in a real straight line it would be really fast
ua-cam.com/video/3fdty1ZCKG8/v-deo.html check that video out at the end he does a 0 to 60 with a mazda 3 2.0 155hp manual and it seems pretty fast even by the times he officially made it was 8.5sec 0 to 60 for the 2.0 155hp 210 nm manual so a 2.5 manual with pretty much 250 nm 185hp has to be faster oh yeah with a good driver of course
Trago polvo el mazda
Mazda 2.5 jajaja es una real shit ...no corre es auto de viejito
Yo tengo un 2.5 2011 y le puse en su madre a un 2016 1.4.
jajajaj si pss
Yo tengo mi mazda 2.5 standar y lo siento, pero mi carro no acelera como el del video, soy del el salvador y lo podemos poner a prueba cuando gusten
Pues sube el vídeo pendejo donde les ganas a los golf .
Una caja dsg es muchísimo más rápido que cualquier humano metiendo el cambio, se nota que no sabes de autos solo por defender tu Mazda lento jajaja, yo tengo un gli 2.0 turbo y un Audi 3 1.8 turbo y ni de pedo me ganan los Mazditas 😎
El mazda no puede contra un jetta,😅 nunca jamas contra el golf
El 2.5 le gana al Jetta pero en la altura pierde a la altura del mar le gana
El golf parte al Mazda lejoooos
JAJA
AT? Wtf
The mazda didn't have opportunity vs the golf is faster...
Que esperaban los mazdetos, ganar?
El 1.4 TSI hace más con menos que ese 2.5 aspirado de Mazda, y para los que cree que Mazda es deportivo, nada más lejos de la realidad.
Tendrán diseños que se podrán ver más deportivos, pero donde de verdad importa es en la conducción, y es allí donde no lo son.
Y para todos los genios que desmeritan al Golf TSI, no saben el gran carro que es.
Yo con el mío le he partido la madre a más de uno que cree que le van a echar polvo a uno.
Ford fiesta
Mazda 3
Mazda 2, etc
En fin, ese 1.4 TSI es una maravilla, si se le saca el jugo en la conducción con un buen punta y taco, entrando duro a curvas le tiras polvo a más de un lucido que cree que va en un superdeportivo, como los de Mazda por ejemplo.
Los que defienden Mazda es porque nunca han sentido el poder de un 1.4 TSI o un 2.0 TSI, esos motores de Mazda no se pueden comparar con la genialidad y tecnología Alemana. Mazda es para los que creen que saben de carros y no saben nada.
@@davidperezm1903 Así es bro. Primero tienes que manejar un Golf TSI para saber la máquina que es, es un lobo con piel de oveja que deja viendo luces traseras a más de uno.
JAJAJAJAJA YO CREO QUE TE GANO UN MAZDA POR ESO TE ARDE EL CULO NO MAMES UN GOLF ESTÁ LEJOS DE GANARLE A UN MAZDA A ALTURA DEL MAR YO TUVE IN GOLF Y ESTA LEJOS DE GANARLE A UN MAZDA Y ESOS GOLFITOS A NIVEL DEL MAR QUE SE TOPEN NO HAY DUDA ALGUNA DE QUE EL MAZDA GA
@@johneduarvm6058 jajaja tampoco exageres, es un carro lento con sus 150 caballitos, hasta el mini Cooper 3 cilindros le gana en el arrancón. La única versión del Golf que tiene galleta es el Golf R, aún el GTI lo siento muy lerdo.
Lol thats not 2.5l mazda 3 its 2.0 120hp mazda
Mi cc 2.0 tsi 2015 se ha dejado a los golf y los nuevos jettas con su 1.4 por mucho, ni el mazda ni el golf son veloces
Y bueno si, tu cc es 2.0 contra un 1.4, un poco logico que les ganes no?, si no les ganas es de burro, en todo caso comparate con un golf r, que 2.0 tsi tmb, boludo
2014 mazda 2 sedan, 1.5L, sin turbo, su carrera es un fake, invente una mejor la proxima vez que saque su golf del taller de mecanica.
eres tonto?
En México no hay motores 1.5 para el mazda crack
Toma! mazdita tu buena paliza Volkswagen mucho mejor que mazdañado...
y yo le gane a uno con mi mazda 2.0 en mmm un gti si me dejo pero ese 1.4 no
Debió haber tenido mala reacción el conductor, o estaba mal manejado. Aun así, felicidades.
De que le hayas ganado tal vez, pero corrido debidamente es imposible ...
El Golf 1.4L TSI deja pendejo al Mazda 3 2.5L Skyactiv, y por mucho.
Jaja yo creo que tu ibas a toda velocidad y el ni en cuenta ue estabas corriendo. Por eso le ganaste! De lo contrario no tienes la mínima esperanza
ibamos en pista de 120 a 230 y no me podia revasar obvio le iba pisando a todo se escuchaba
That's not 2.5 l mazda 3 its only available in north Amerika and it comes out 2020 your video is older. So its fake
ua-cam.com/video/KurxS6rrRkQ/v-deo.html