My biggest issue, as an Australian, was the way the BBC completely backstabbed the ABC. The ABC has shown Doctor Who for 59 years. There’s a TARDIS- at least there was- in the foyer of ABC’s head offices in Sydney. The Five Doctors was co-produced by the ABC and wouldn’t have happened unless the BBC’s Aussie cousin hadn’t come along to help.
Re Australia - here's the information: all licence fees were abolished in 1974 by the Whitlam government on the basis that the near-universality of television and radio use meant that public funding was fairer. Since then, the ABC has been funded by government grants, now totalling around A$1.13 billion per year, plus its own commercial activities (merchandising, overseas sale of programmes, etc.). So, it's not "free", as it's paid for via general taxation, but you're not paying specifically for it.
Thank you, that was a lot more information than I would have been able to give in my paltry reply. :D I had no idea we used to have to play license fees, though I will admit to being two years old when the were abolished.
@@triplejazzmusicisall1883Did a quick search and confirmed Australia abolished the license fee in 1974. Maybe the ads you were thinking of was for something like sponsoring kids overseas? Or maybe it referred to the cost of running the ABC, which we never paid for directly but was funded by taxes.
@@gestaltdudeI also remember the 7 cents a day ads on the ABC. It was broadcast between programs along side all the other self promotion material. It was just to highlight the fact that at the time the ABC cost each tax payer 7 cents per day.
"You're not paying specifically for it" That's the whole basis of the argument NOW the rat house has its claws in you've got to subscribe to the whole thing to watch Doctor Who.
I'm 61 years old and started watching Dr. Who (Tom Baker) on free American PBS, which was a public broadcasting network, no commercials, no cost. It's frustrating to have to pay and hunt for the entire series scattered all over streaming sites.
PBS now has "enhanced underwriting", with sponsor credits before and after each show (but still no in-show ads). But, the "good stuff" (concerts, Ken Burns' documentaries, etc.) is always interrupted during "Pledge Weeks", when they break and ask for donations/memberships.
TRue, it's the same for me, I started to watch Doctor Who just before Tom Baker became the doctor from John Pertwee. I hate steaming sites, I don't watch any of the shows on Streaming. I usually wait the show ends up in syndication a few years after the original broadcast.
As an Australian, moving to Disney+ is a spit in the face to the ABC, a partnership which stretched back to basically the beginning. DW on Disney+ = Sailing the Internet Seas Edit: It being on the ABC was completely free, as the ABC is a national broadcaster
I'm Australian, so this is devastating that it won't be on the ABC. Part of my childhood was staying up late to watch doctor who with my mum, and its still something we love sharing. And considering how long the ABC has been broadcasting Doctor who, i feel like the BBC has really stabbed them in the back with this exclusive deal with Disney+. This combined with Disney stopping its release of physical media in australian feels like Disney is definitely trying to limit other options for Aussies by forcing more people to use their services in order to watch their favourite shows and movies, which isnt so great for people who dont have the money to spare on streaming services. God forbid Disney try to influence or control the writing of future Doctor who episodes and turn it into another cash grab production.
In the US, in order to watch it I either need a full cable package to get BBC America to see it (well over $50), or pay for AMC+, and hope I catch it when it's on, since that service doesn't store much videos. Coming to Disney+ is great for me, because I already have it, and I can watch it in my own time.
Honestly think the Cable Companies could have made a killing with A La Cart channel selection. There are hundreds of channels...but honestly I only watched like 3 channels and had to get everything but premium channels...Ugh.. >$300 a month including internet. They would have had more subscribers if they were allowed to pick and choose. I don't give a rat's butt about most of the channels available...and I'd still be a cable subscriber if I could have just only paid for the channels I wanted.@@TurtleDustin
It used to be before the Disney+ deal was struck but they (BBCA) started treating it lousy near the end (and before anyone tries to blame her for it this started before Jodie's run began).@@JeanBray-cj3lu
Watching Doctor Who on BBC America is sheer torture. The number of advertising interruptions when watching Jodie Whittiker's final episode made the episode almost unwatchable. I have the Disney + and Hulu ad-free bundle already so I'm looking forward to watching the new series and specials without a ridiculous number of ad interruptions.
You need a cable subscription for BBC America but this is why I always used a DVR to get through the ads. Took a break from DW and have since been watching on HBO Max, it's nice not having to worry about skipping the ads but I think it's best to have an ad option available so there's at least a choice.
It was on HBOMax (or just MAX now) without commercials. I watched Whitaker's last few seasons just a few months ago with my daughter, and loved them, all without commercials. BBC America I agree never got it right and frankly was challenging always to watch anything on. (in fact it's still on MAX if you want to rewatch those episodes without commercials).
Canadian here. The former home of Doctor Who streaming here was Crave, a Canada-only service owned by one of our major telecoms that also has the rights to HBO and a bunch of recent movies. For us, the move to Disney+ just meant moving to another service at the same price point - but one with a much better app that we personally were already paying for as opposed to an app we rarely bothered with. Definitely a win for our household personally, and probably neutral for most Canadians who don’t have cable. (There is a different streaming option for people with cable, but… then you’re paying for cable…)
As a fellow Canadian, THANK YOU for explaining all of that. To add one detail, I'm in Hamilton, ON and don't have Crave. But I've seen every ep for "free" on CTV Sci-Fi. ( I still have last year's Special on my Rogers cloud PVR. I have to watch it before Oct 20th before it's erased. ) Luckily, for me, my only streaming is Disney+ (Thanks, Baby Yoda!) So I'll be good. Could this crap be any more complicated?! Again, great comment! Respect!👍
Additionally - no more commercials is a great incentive, I watched the first two episodes of Season 7 on Space and the fact they actually cut run time to put in ads drove me crazy so I only would watch the episodes a day later via Apple itunes. Did that until Season 11.
Yeah the abc here in Australia is feee with no tv licence so dr who was truly free for everyone to watch so now it’s actually going to be harder! To view since you need a pay wall to get it…so as far as I’m concerned this just limits the show’s audience rather then expans it. Plus since the abc is government owned it had no adds so dr who with adds sounds horrific.
Yes. It seems Australia is one of the those territories that is disadvantaged by the Who/Disney arrangement. For years it suited the BBC to sell it to our ABC cheaply but DW's popularity now makes it an albatross around its own neck...cost wise I mean... and the ABC won't pay what Disney is willing to.
As a Latin American Doctor Who fan this union with Disney+ really makes me happy, since there is currently no legal way in this territory to watch either the classic series nor the new series. My only real concern is that for some reason in Latin America there is a service called Star+ (owned by Disney) which costs you extra money and it is in that streaming service where everything that is not Marvel, Star Wars or Disney/Pixar productions is found. (these are on Disney+) My concern is if Doctor Who would be on Star+ (which costs you twice the Disney+ membership)
Now you said that, is a good point. It never crossed my mind that it can be on star+... I'm guessing it'll be on disney+ because is a family friendly show, but who knows with them tbh
I'm actually very disappointed that Disney is now involved with Dr. Who. Disney ruined Star Wars, they ruined Marvel franchises and they will more than likely ruin Dr. Who.
In North America we don't pay for a TV license. Commercials pay for the show. So we have Commercial breaks for products interspersed within watching the show as well as before and after. TV without cable is free. Cable TV gives you access to a lot of channels. However, shows are still paid for by Commercials, except for cable TV channels like HBO, showtime, etc which are premium channels.
I am a Whovian from Tom Bakers time, I have loved The Doctor for decades. I am also American and use to watch it on our PBS network. I have seen the really old Doctor Who shows, from the first Doctor on. Tom Baker is my fav!
The 1st episode I saw was 'The Keeper of Traken' around 1982 on a PBS Chicago station...I've been a fan until the 'gender' change....not happy with that....=))
If you're an old Baker fan, then you should remember it was Tom Baker and John Nathan Turner who first described the next Doctor as "whoever he or she may be". Tom Baker has said repeatedly he's all for having a female Doctor.
@@Tardisius That was around the time I started watching Doctor Who also. WTTW are the call letters for PBS in Chicago, even though I live In Rockford. I remember being episodes back then and being on around 4:30 p.m. "The Face of Evil" was the first one I saw on WTTW. I used to watch it on PBS channel 21 out of Madison, a different episode of Doctor Who. It was nice having 2 PBS channels on my local cable.
Not only does/did it have adverts on BBC America, after the first showing, they cut out parts of it to stuff in more ads and we have to pay for the channel. You could buy it same as the dvd collections an episode at a time from Apple the day after it showed on television.
Before BBC America (a pay service) it spent time on Netflix, Amazon Prime, and HBO..all pay services. The only time it was “free” in the US, was back in the 70’s and 80’s when it was on PBS, who was always asking for donations (user support). Rumor has it that the PBS Station in Milwaukee, Wisconsin had licensing rights for Classic Doctor Who well into the oughts. I’m not entirely sure of the details..only that that PBS station had air rights long after the other PBS stations in the US lost theirs.
Might be a weird opinion but I personally don’t like that Doctor Whos budget will increase that much. It just feels wrong for Doctor Who to have this HD Hollywood kinda cgi to it, imo only the old, bad quality episodes have that real Doctor Who feel to them. But I’m still happy for everyone actually involved to get the opportunity to work with a way bigger budget now ofc :)
For me thee's always the roblem aof high budgets reducing creativity, when you don't have much money you have to be more creative over how to use it and concentrate on character over wow moments, that can produce a gem. Too much money can lead to all show and no substance
Not sure...I think most of the budget increase is for Marketing...but I do agree...the low-budget effects are what make Dr Who great. Like the fake boulders on Star Trek TOS. The ONLY thing they did that took me out of an ep...was the plastic stuff in Eccleston's run. That's not their fault tho. That's just the level of CGI they had access to in '05
they are not spending it like they don't care.... Course they care, that's why it looks so good. Show hasn't even been shown with this CGI yet and it's being criticized before coming out. It looks good don't see the problem.
Hi Ellie, As an Australian I can say we do NOT pay to watch normal television. Here it is called “Free to air.” We only pay for streaming services like Disney Plus. As I have already cancelled this I will have to restart my DVD collection of Doctor Who.
Doctor Who has never been “free” in the US. As of 2005, the only way to see it was on BBC America. That channel was not free. You had to have cable TV, and you had to have a tier of cable that was more than “basic”, for which you paid extra. As I recall, that tier was ~$20/mi. and you got a bunch of channels, most of which you didn’t want, but you did get BBC America. Then for a while it was on HBO, cable & stream, also not free (~$12/mo).
I actually when bbca was first offered in America it wasn’t a tier system it was regular cable and digital cable but when cable went digital only it became a tier system and the main reason I still have cable is having the cable company I did allows me to get max free but I don’t like that in America the show will be broken up behind 3 paywalls if Disney+ doesn’t get access to the whole series cause Britbox has the classic era max has the first 13 seasons and their specials and Disney+ will have the new content
@jwb52z9 I think it's more than a few years ago. I remember in my area I went to go watch it and I was like, "Ugh, what's this Austin city limits show doing on at this time. For several weeks I checked. Unfortunately doctor who had left. I don't even remember how long it was when it happened.
I'm from Brazil and this last 10 years have been pretty hard to watch doctor who officially... since it left Netflix there have been no stable official platform to watch the adventures of the doctor here. Result: I didn't watched series 9 and 10 yet and I had to pay more money to watch seasons 11, 12 and 13. So when I hear that doctor who was going to Disney plus then I thought "oh gosh, finally, a stable official way to watch doctor who"
My only concern is that as time goes on Disney will become greedy and try to hamfist the production, provided this is only an international broadcast deal (as it should be) then I have no real qualms
Still in the dark about physical releases in Australia. Disney has recently announced that they are no longer going to provide sales of physical media here, so the only option for us would be bootlegs (which, incidentally, I have no intention of ever owning. I have no intention of taking money away from people responsible for creating the shows I love). I am hoping that, as the deal is for streaming, only, we will still get physical releases made and distributed by the BBC.
In regards to physical media.. Warning... Disney have already put a stop to releasing all physical media in Australia, it is expected that this would be the beginning of the end from their side of things. However I believe BBC still own the show so it shouldnt change things for Dr Who
You know, at this point I think it would be hilarious for Rusty and the crew to just lean in hard on the whole "Disney interference" concern, and just have Gatwa running around in a full Mickey Mouse outfit, complete with the ears, for some part of that inevitable "post-regeneration weirdness" period in his first episode. No explanation given. End of the episode, he tosses it out the TARDIS door and the audience is comforted that, no, Disney is not being allowed to take over.
@@johndododoe1411 I feel that with Dr. Who on Disney+, Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger will make the Disney Monopoly WORSE OFF for Dr. Who than it was for Star Wars.
In the US the entire modern Who series was on HBO Max, which was more expensive than Disney+ so realistically it will now be cheaper even with the recent price increase on Disney+. At least for us in the states. You will still need britbox for the classic series though.
For all of the American Viewers, until Disney takes over, Dr Who plus Torchwood and Sarah Jane is running on Max(formerly HBOMax). Also, Disney is charging $2.00 a month for the service with Ads here in the United States. BUT you also get the Marvel Universe, Star Wars, Pixar and whatever Disney has made over the last decades. Hope this helps.
When I got the service last Christmas here in America there was an ad supported tier but it wasn’t significantly cheaper to warrant going with it so i got the no ads and it was $109 dollars for the year which isn’t much less then the cable I still have and the majority of what I have watched was there cable programming that when originally aired would have had commercials anyway
@@williamwells3026 Yes, the $2 per month is for 3 months for new subscribers. I think it’s maybe $8 for just Disney +,$20 for that,Hulu and ESPN+; then $70 for all 3 and live tv per month. But there’s about to be a price increase in October. 😡
@@williamwells3026 It's only for a 3 month trial subscription. Then it goes to $8/month. Anyway, Dr. Who has gotten so bad that I never watch now. I used to watch it religiously for years.
BBC America usually shows Doctor Who in the US (Unless you attend a special event in cinemas). So anyone who pays for a standard cable package has gotten it included. If it's no longer on BBC America, then yes, I can't imagine ANYONE cancelling their entire cable subscription and paying for Disney+ instead.
not just "doctor who with adverts" but "doctor who you are paying to see but you're still forced to watch adverts in addition to that to be allowed to watch it"
@@calidofrio13 PBS who first broadcast Docter Who 80s and 90s didn't have adverts, PBS had fundraisers every 6 months or so. I have been watching Doctor Who since the 80s when it was Tom Baker.
@@calidofrio13 I have seen PBS ever since I went to only Internet and dropped the TV channels when I realized I rarely watch anything that was on cable. Too much cost for too little content. So did PBS add advertisements? or do they still ask for money from the viewers? It has been about 10-12 years since I watched TV.
sucks in Canada as Who was on CTV sci fi Channel , which was part of my digital cable package (works out $1 a channel) or you could’ve got new & the back catalog streaming on Crave ( which includes HBO , STARZ, Showtime & some Hulu) which costs a little more than Disney +… now all gone 😔 💔
Many other comments put this better, but when a new episode of Doctor Who came out and all my friends would get up to watch it on Australian ABC live was amazing. Now it is just on another streaming service which I have to pay for. I remember when BBC announced it and all the ABC instagram pages just being very sad about it because they have had such a long history and partnership together (through many different programs and projects) and now just not :( It is very very sad.
Literally every single person I know in my city has Disney+. Every friend, every family member, and every co-worker. So I’m surprised to learn this is a sticking point. I would think the typical Doctor Who fan might also like Disney, and/or Star Wars, and/or Marvel, and/or the Muppets, and/or National Geographic. So I would have thought most Who fans already had Disney+.
As a German, I'm actually happy this happens, because it was really hard to watch doctor who since it left first amazon Prime and then Netflix and the DVD's / Blue rays are so expansive. Also I already have D+ for the Star Wars and Marvel stuff.
I'm honestly gonna miss watching new episodes of Doctor Who on BBC America. It's even sadder that this means that the holiday marathons the channel hosted are gone as well. 😭
I know I wouldn’t mind if Disney+ got the episodes first then bbc America cause I found the doctor through bbc America on demand looking through its on demand and watching Amy’s choice as my first episode I had seen and watching season 6 when it originally aired cause at this point the doctor and plant earth was the most prominent bbc show still airing on the channel with most of its programming becoming more and more American
BBC America butchered 10min + out of every episode to fit in comercials and for some reason they desaturated the color so everything looked gray all the way to doctor 12
Doctor Who has been in America since the early 70’s anyway, we watched it on PBS when I was a child. Obviously it stinks to have to pay a streaming service, though you pretty much have to do that to watch tv now regardless, unless of course you pay the astronomical prices that cable and dish want. I don’t think anyone will ever consider it less than a British niche, we just love it too!
I don't know about anywhere else but in California you had to have BBC America to watch recent Who. That required a cable/satellite subscription which many people no longer have. Its 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other.
I used to get bbc america through a sling streaming subscription. They break dish network into smaller channel packages. It allows you to pay less but you get fewer. channels.
I remember as a very young child being introduced to the Doctor on PBS in the US, it only ran where I live for a season. The reintroduction was when the SciFi channel ran a few season, then Disney ran the same batch of season before the cable company finally started to carry BBCA. I honestly don't mind them going to a streaming service to get this show out there to a large audience. What I do mind is that the channels that carried and supported the show now seem like they aren't aloud to show this show that made them household names any more. Basically it has the appearance of "oh we got this great deal, so we spit on all of you that long held on to keeping this show going" which is what has made long term fans (me included) question will we ever see this show where it has long belonged again (the BBC affiliate channel)
PBS was my introduction to Doctor Who as well. But they didn't run them in order. Met Peter Davidson at a Con a few years ago and he was surprised that in my area I got to watch the 4th, 3rd and 5th Doctors. And in that order.
You must have had a cheapskate PBS station. In Chicago we saw all the Doctors from Jon Pertwee to Sylvester McCoy in order and shortly after they had been shown in Britain.
@@lpierce8842 3 years behind you down the road in St Louis, was also Baker > Pertwee > Davidson and they stopped before we ever got to the Colin Baker era. Much easier to have a well-funded PBS station when your TV market is almost 10 times the size. They also never broadcast "The Five Doctors", had to attend a convention to see that.
My lack of concern and happiness about the deal comes from the fact that I could not legally watch DW in Poland and had to use UK based vpn to Watch it on bbc
The thing is though which is another concern for me here in Australia is Disney has cancelled releasing any physical media in Australia indefinitely and i'm worried i won't be able to complete my Doctor Who DVD/blu ray collection which is another downer i hope Disney doesn't go anywhere near Doctor Who from William Hartnell to Jodie Whittaker it's been on the ABC since 1965 almost 60 years ago it's been the home for Dr. Who there and i think it's disgusting personally that it's been taken off where you could watch it freely and now you can't we were devastated when we heard this news I'm also very highly against David Tennant, Catherine Tate, Russell T Davies and Murray Gold returning to the show because there will be no evolution they had their time the show is about going forward not going backwards.
As an American, the last time I was legally able to watch Doctor Who was in the Matt Smith era. After that, it left Netflix and or Hulu (can't remember which one it was on) After that, the only way I knew of to watch was through Amazon Prime, buying individual episodes. I did eventually get the complete series box set DVDs for each Doctor, but that meant that I couldn't get to the next Doctor until their whole run was done. So being able to stream legally on Disney+, which I already have and use regularly, I'm happy. Just my 2 cents
In Australia we pay for the ABC in our taxes. It used to be a famously quoted 8 cents a day. This pays for the infrastructure to broadcast across our huge nation and includes tv and radio. All ad free. An believe me there is a lot of infrastructure to maintain.
I’m a bit older so I watched Doctor Who free on PBS in the United States. When the new series came out I could only watch it on the SciFi channel a year after it aired in the UK until we got BBC America. If I wanted it sooner, I would have to get a torrent of it.
I hope that by streaming doctor who on Disney Plus that it will make it more accessible for audiences and fans outside the UK. I don't imagine that it will impact very much on the style of the show but I expect it will provide extra publicity for doctor who and maybe slightly more money for the budget. Great video Ellie and Who Culture!
In the USA we have cable and watched it on "BBC America", which means we got 15 minutes of commercials for every 5 minutes of Doctor Who. They would cut the show for commercials in the middle of any scene. BBC American really really sucks.
Middle of America here. In order to watch Dr who, I had to have cable - I don't have cable because it is over 100 for the cable TV. I had hoped at one time that I could just get Brit Box streaming, But no, I needed a cable provider to watch Dr. Who. I already HAVE Disney plus, so learning it was on a streaming service I had made me happy INDEED! But, Because of what I had to go through before to watch Dr. Who? I can 10000% understand the issues of others who will need to get Disney plus to watch Dr. Who.
Previously here in Canada, the 2005- series was available free with your regular cable subscription. Which we all used to have.😢 My big concern is what the US involvement will end up meaning as regards quality; if you watched the US/ UK co-production of Torchwood you will know what I'm talking about. Just trashed the whole series with the involvement of Starz; and given the mess that Disney has recently made of both Star Wars and Marvel....yeah, I'm pretty freaking worried. Disney has a lot more clout ($$$) than Starz and they like to use it
❤❤ Australian TV! We have 5 main free to air TV channels. There are now a couple of extra channels for those so I believe that we now have about 12 channels that are totally and completely free. No licensing fees, nothing. I didn’t realise that you had to pay anything for the BBC, I thought it was like our ABC and was government funded. I’m so confused!
I have been watching Doctor Who since I was 5 first in the US then in Canada. That was the late 70s for me. They were made available on TV on PBS. For the longest time. And we had access to reruns as well. The older doctors. On PBS. So, even when there was nothing new, we had the reruns to watch.
A short term problem however with the show being distributed internationally by Disney, and with Sony being its ultimate financial backer is - of course - the labour strikes that are currently happening in the US. Both Sony and Disney are studios being struck by both the WGA and SAG AFTRA, so no promotion (by actors and writers) can happen on this side of the pond re: Doctor Who at the moment.
I don't remember a lot of promotion by the Dr. Who actors and actresses here in the US. They would occasionally make an appearance at Comic Con or something, but I don't know how many new viewers that resulted in. Probably not many.
North America (ie the USA and Canada) have never had TV License fees. The shows were broadcast over the air and then paid for by advertising (of which there is MUCH more than in the UK). Nowadays most folks pay a Cable subscription fee to have clean clear pictures delivered without the whole rabbit-ears thing, so we pay for monthly cable subscriptions that bring in a large package (10-50, depending on your deal) of different TV channels. Some specialty channels you can only get by paying for a higher tier subscription and that varies by area. The channels are still chock full of ads as the cable fee is only a delivery fee, one which seems to keep going up for no good reason. Naturally many folks have now ditched cable TV and pay for a high-speed internet connection and a streaming service to get their shows.
I've had Disney Plus for a while, but I think it sucks that people in the states have to pay Disney to watch Doctor Who now. I enjoyed watching it on BBC America, which came in my cable package that I already pay for. So, I guess we've always had to pay. 🤷🏻♀
I watched original Doctor Who on the local PBS station 40ish years ago. PBS is partially funded by the government and partially through fund raising. New Who iirc aired on BBC America, which afaik required either a subscription or was part of a cable package (or both).
Actually, this brings up another issue for me and possibly others here in America. I had to buy each season of the Dr. Who show when it was on Amazon. Bought, not rented. Does this mean I'm going to lose my online purchase of Dr. Who since it's moving to Disney+?
I bought several tv series from Amazon that moved to Disney+ . I can still watch the ones I bought. However, buying future seasons have been challenging.
In the US, you already had to pay for it because it was never on one of the free channels. You might have had a channel that showed it if you had cable, but you had to pay cable subscription. So now you have to switch to a different service. I completely understand the fear of losing that niche status. I've been a fan of Critical Role since the start. I was at one of their first con appearances. Their panel was in one of the small panel rooms on a Sunday morning, with maybe a 100 or so people attending. You could walk up to their table for an autograph and a selfie. Fast forward 7 years, and their photo/autograph sessions are completely sold out and their panel is in the main hall, and completely full. It's lost a lot of the niche status and the charm that comes with that. But it's also gained a lot from going more mainstream. And I'm sure Doctor Who will be no different. As long as they can retain the core essence of what makes the show so beloved, that's what's important.
Hey Ellie! Usually a Sean stan, but you are AAA+. Great vid!❤ Very sad that TV has become so ridiculously complicated, as opposed to the old school water-cooler talks that bonded people together the day after, back in the late 20th century.😢I...am...so...old!
In the US, broadcast TV has not had any fees to be paid. You would only have to pay if you were getting the broadcast channels as part of a cable or other streaming service. If you simply watch ABC, CBS, NBC, CW, or other broadcast TV channels via over the air using an antenna, there is no monthly or annual cost.
Great video Ellie, i feel you covered all the pros and cons there. Ultimately, we're all excited to see where RTD2 takes us. Ellie, it's time you auditioned, there's so much love for you! ❤
I was born in the 1950's and had the great privilege of seeing Hartnell, Troughton (joint fave), Pertwee and Baker (joint fave). All of those series had massive followings and when younger was genuinely terrified. The BBC knew what it was doing. I grew up and lost contact until Tennant & Smith, which also gained massive followings. When Russell T left, things went downhill (except for some brilliant bits by Moffat) and Poor Capaldi & Whittaker had to deal with lousy story lines. The thing is... I still love Dr Who but the BBC has just let it slowly decline. Audience figures have plummeted in the UK. However, the younger generation prefers to stream, rather than like it used to be; watched as a family. Russell T is now back, so let's hope things are on the up and I presume he has reasons for including Disney +. (He must surely have been included in the conversations) It is a "british institution" and I hope it stays that way. It used to be terrifying and clever. It has lost its way and I hope it will not change to cater for the average yank. (My yank relatives feel the same way) I feel for the Aussies... you have been part of Dr Who from very early on.
@@jsutton0010- Yes, they have streaming rights, but the nature of Disney, is to interfere by degrees. The company is creatively bankrupt, and is haemorrhaging money right, left and centre. If they even get the tiniest idea that they can make Doctor Who into some cash grab, then those interfering tentacles will come out and start altering things in their favour. Pretty much anything that you have loved in the past, and has been connected with Disney, will have been bled dry, run into the floor, or toned down to appeal to the lowest common denominator audience. I'm really, really hoping that streaming is all Disney intend to do, but I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them, personally.
Here in Brazil we had Doctor Who for free, for a while, on an open public channel. I guess, all the way up to Peter Capaldi's era. Then everything moved to Globoplay, so you had all of he New Who there for a subscription fee. But when Jodie's era began, they sort of removed all the old episodes and they would only stream the current season. So, I'm pretty happy they are going to Disney+ and I hope they STAY THERE. Stop moving around so much!
As an American who started watching the show for the first time, I binged watched all of the Modern show on HBO Max (now just Max). I also have Disney+ though so I’ll still be able to watch it no matter what.
I love you. You are so relatable. I had a concern as a Canadian.I am grateful now that my cable carrier, Rogers has absorbed Disney plus as part of my subscription. I am glad I won't have to endure the commercials now.(at least, I hope not.)When Doctor Who was sent to us the commercials cut some of the program content. Do you still work with Sean? I enjoyed your banter with each other. Thank you for your hard work. Take care.
10:32 That may be the case in smaller European countries like the UK, but we can't push the envelope that far in my country, the United States of America. As a result of the country's size and federalist form of government, traditionally-broadcast television is still the name of the game, especially for local news, local sports, and game shows. We still cherish our digital video recorders (DVRs), like TiVo, for their ability to replicate the on-demand convenience of streaming with traditionally-broadcast programming: we can just request a certain show on our DVR, and the DVR simply downloads said show automatically while it's being aired, even when we are unavailable for any reason: work, school, travel, errands, religion, live entertainment, etc.
But what about the censorship!? especially in other countries like America, I mentioned this before in the last video... what if regional censorship becomes a thing? knowing how TOO kid friendly Disney likes to get and all, It wouldn't even be the first time Disney censors Doctor Who! I did mention the blur & muting of the word 'hell' in "The Impossible Planet" didn't I?! 😟
Great video. Love the glasses... very 50's chic. Here's the thing, everything changes. Such is life. You know what's NOT coming to 4K? She-Hulk, they never rendered the effects in 2K even.
I have always had to pay extra to watch Doctor Who. First pay for Syfy. Then Bbc America. Then Philo. So I already have Disney plus and will enjoy it on there since the picture and sound quality is much better .
For me it’s the same as not being able to watch many shows over the years if they were in niche channels in the US for example. The biggest issue these days is the lack of physical media. Fewer shows being released in blu ray, let alone movies
BBCA was one of the hundreds of channels that we got for having cable for a single price, now we are going to have to paid an additional amount to get Disney Plus. Cable Tv is already getting too expensive just for the basic cable. @@janechoy2073
PBS airs it, but not new episodes in a number of years, depending on which PBS station you have, and that may end as well as PBS has to rebuy airing rights every year for shows.
@janechoy2073 It was part of my SlingTV service. Now I'll have to pay for Sling *and* Disney+, instead of just one service. I don't want to give Disney any more money than I have to.
I object to Disney+ or any streaming service/studio that puts all of the most popular content behind a paywall. Very anti-competition. ABC is a national broadcaster in Australia that is government run/funded. There is NO fee to access ABC, never has, never will. When I was a child in rural Australia, there was only 2 channels to watch on TV. A commercial channel with ads (no fee) and the ABC. The ABC was the reason I got to see Doctor Who at all. Doctor Who has been spotty on streaming lately. I'm going to just buy them on physical media.
The very fact that it's going to Disney Plus best describes the current sad state of what Dr. Who has become. I had a little hope when it was announced that RTD was taking over show running; but having Tenant & company return as well screams desperation to try and win back the loads of viewers who left in the past couple of years (viewers who left for obvious reasons). 99.9% of shows on Disney plus are trash which means.. they'll continue doing what drove audiences away.. that really is a shame.
of course, a more relevant question is how much longer will Disney+ be available? given the reported loss of viewers by that service, it may not be in existence in a long term sense. and with the way Disney raises their rates due to that subscriber loss, they may price themselves out of business altogether
I've been a fan since the Tom Baker days. I'm happy that it's coming into the streaming services, but I'm worried that newer series will be fewer episodes.
I have to say I'm pissed about this. I don't have Disney, nor do I care to get it: I pay too much already for TV. I think this is a lousy move by BBC America.
Other comments from donei and markrandall explain the Australian broadcasting situation really well. In Australia in terms of physical media distribution we get screwed. We share region B for blurays with UK so a lot of the time we import. There's no alternative methods to view Doctor Who in Australia and Aussies are known for being the most prolific with piracy as a result.
For the past number of years, I have been watching Doctor Who on the HBO, aka, HBOMax, aka, Max streaming streaming service. This means that I have to wait months or more before I can watch newer episodes. Which is why I am currently a bit behind on the series. I am hoping with this Disney Plus arrangement, I will be able to watch the newer episodes sooner rather than later. Time will tell.
You have to pay for it in the USA too - it is only broadcast on BBCA which means you need a cable TV subscription. It's always had commercials in BBCA here.
In the US, Doctor Who was on BBC. To get BBC you had to pay a cable or satellite company and ofter BBC America was on a tier higher than basic. Doctor Who switching to Disney Plus is really no big deal since I already subscribe to the service. My problem, and I watched Doctor Who back starting back in the 70s, is that I stopped watching it when Jodie Whitaker became the Doctor. I didn't stop because of a female Doctor, I stopped because the storylines just didn't interest me.
I can’t understand people in the US complaining about the price of Disney+ and claiming they got it for free. BBCA has been a second tier cable subscription. Meaning you don’t get BBCA with regular cable package. You have to get expanded cable. That’s like $200 per month. It’s rather disingenuous for Americans to claim it’s been free.
I am French (but my comments can also apply to Belgium and Switzerland) and the only way to watch Doctor Who in France are the DVD box sets published by France 4, even if they are pretty and nice to collect, the episodes "Chrismath Invasion", Hursbund Of River Song" are missing and no Minisodes broadcast in France (only series 5 is on blu-ray). The only spin-off published in France is Torchwood. The classic series is impossible to find legally. and of course there are very few derivative products. I sincerely hope that Disney + will make Doctor Who more accessible in France
In Finland, Dr. Who has previously been broadcasted by Yle, which is Finland's public broadcasting company, but with the new Disney deal they lost the license to broadcast Dr. Who just as when the BBC made a deal with Apple and Yle lost the license to broadcast new BBC documentaries (so they rerun the old documentaries now).
Speaking of David Tennant, one of the streaming services (Amazon Prime or Hulu, I think) has a terrific episodic show called "Good Omens." It's great fun, and the first two (of a probable three) seasons are done.
Australia TV is free-to-air unless you pay for streaming or cable. No TV license since 18 September 1974; 49 years ago. I agree there's a lot to be concerned for. We have Disney + for a few other franchises we love so I'm ready to go. Unfortunately, the options in Australia is moving towards streaming through Brit Box, Stan and Disney +. We can give a sigh of relief that Russel T Davies is writing the episodes.
For me i havent watched doctor who in years because it hasn't been on a platform i use so i feel moving it to disney+ would make me fully catch up finally! I dropped off after Jodies first season... but really i was a huge fan (still am) and i miss watching it! This is in all clarity making the show way more accessible for me
In the US we had classic back in the day on “public television” which was programming funded by voluntary public viewer donations, or corporate sponsorship. No adverts, and no commercials (corp sponsors got mention between shows). Otherwise totally free. Since 2005 it’s just been part of cable channel line up, but as one channel included out of 300+…essentially free.
The adverts on Hulu/Disney+ occur for 30 seconds to 1 minute 30 seconds before the show and don't occur during. Usually these ads are for products already on or coming to the service, with occasional outside sponsored ones. Also, as far as i know, Doctor Who has not been publicly broadcasted (PBS) since the 90s, with New Who episodes available through paid cable services since it's relaunch in 2005 via channels such as [then] the SciFi Channel (which did mostly Sci-Fi media) and is now SyFy (which is more fantasy genre). Since the new era of streaming and etc, BBC, BBC America, AMC, AMC+ where Doctor Who primarily broadcasts, you have had to pay for such access. It gets complicated. The other thing that i understand is happening, is that now that Disney is involved, they will be showing Doctor Who on their ABC (American Broadcast Corporation) Channel. Which is an "over the air" channel that does not require any subscription. Though you will be limited on how you can watch it. I.E. when it broadcasts, or if you recorded it.
From the perspective of a loooongtime fan living in Finland, Who going onto Disney+ is fabulous. Currently it is only possible to watch Who on the state broadcaster, YLE. And it's entirely at the mercy of their scheduling. They didn't broadcast it for years, then when they did some years they've shown episodes at nearly the same time as the UK, others years a week later, others more than a month later. In the age of the BBC's social media spoiling stuff within 24 hours, this was a pain. Who isn't streamed on ANY other Nordic-variant of the usual streaming services (not even classic Who on Britbox Nordic). So you're left at the mercy of VPN to iPlayer or *cough* magic viewing *cough*. Paying for Disney+ is a fairly easy decision. Particularly if you also like Star Wars and Marvel stuff too. They also stream loads of Stars shows that aren't otherwise available here. Besides, like with the BBC in the UK, you have to pay a licence fee to YLE in Finland anyway (it's included in taxation, so no dodging it).
In the US, you have to have a cable TV package plus the add-on for BBC America. There are only 3-4 main Internet/cable tv providers, so my cable/Internet bill with BBC America was often $150 monthly or more. Now I have $60 just for Internet, $20 for Disney/Hulu, and swap passwords with friends for everything else!
THANKS for this!! I'm a regular "Ups and Downs" Trek watcher so I didn't know about this channel? (Is this "Ellie's Channel?") Okay, subscribed! So....I used to watch 9 and 10 on UA-cam back when it was illegally posted on early Sunday mornings. I used to watch 9 and 10 on BBC America and it was a weird experience. IIRC, HBO Max has 2005-2022 and Disney+ starts now (?)
Americans have always had commercials with Doctor Who since the reboot. Pre-reboot, when it was mainly on PBS stations, we didn't...but those disappeared when the BBC stopped its deal with PBS. BBC America is not a "free" channel, either; it's usually part of "basic cable" for most people, but you do have to have a cable subscription to get it, it's not a broadcast channel.
American TV is advertising supported so all channels, except maybe HBO and Showtime, have commercials in the middle of shows. We don’t have license fees for tv networks here. The basic main networks are free. The networks make money from selling ad space during shows. These are the four main networks, the extra HD channels, independent stations and your local PBS stations. Then you get a subscription with your local cable company if you want more channels (but a lot of people are “cord cutting” and dropping their cable subscriptions). Even basic cable channels are ad supported though. On top of your basic cable subscription, you have to get separate subscriptions for channels like HBO and Showtime. Those subscription fees are probably the closest you’ll get to license fees in America … Also, on a side tangent, there’s no point in putting “BBC” in BBC America’s name anymore since it mostly shows American shows.
My biggest issue, as an Australian, was the way the BBC completely backstabbed the ABC. The ABC has shown Doctor Who for 59 years. There’s a TARDIS- at least there was- in the foyer of ABC’s head offices in Sydney. The Five Doctors was co-produced by the ABC and wouldn’t have happened unless the BBC’s Aussie cousin hadn’t come along to help.
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Yeah, they didn't show my comment in this clip! Probably because of the language. 😂
@@Jenifer_R_ but that language is part of being Australian!
@@rivwilson9330 Absof*kinlutely!
That's why business and feelings don't mix babes. They make horrible choices.
Re Australia - here's the information: all licence fees were abolished in 1974 by the Whitlam government on the basis that the near-universality of television and radio use meant that public funding was fairer. Since then, the ABC has been funded by government grants, now totalling around A$1.13 billion per year, plus its own commercial activities (merchandising, overseas sale of programmes, etc.). So, it's not "free", as it's paid for via general taxation, but you're not paying specifically for it.
Thank you, that was a lot more information than I would have been able to give in my paltry reply. :D I had no idea we used to have to play license fees, though I will admit to being two years old when the were abolished.
@@triplejazzmusicisall1883Did a quick search and confirmed Australia abolished the license fee in 1974. Maybe the ads you were thinking of was for something like sponsoring kids overseas? Or maybe it referred to the cost of running the ABC, which we never paid for directly but was funded by taxes.
@@gestaltdudeI also remember the 7 cents a day ads on the ABC. It was broadcast between programs along side all the other self promotion material. It was just to highlight the fact that at the time the ABC cost each tax payer 7 cents per day.
"You're not paying specifically for it"
That's the whole basis of the argument
NOW the rat house has its claws in you've got to subscribe to the whole thing to watch Doctor Who.
Good info - thanks for sharing!
I'm 61 years old and started watching Dr. Who (Tom Baker) on free American PBS, which was a public broadcasting network, no commercials, no cost. It's frustrating to have to pay and hunt for the entire series scattered all over streaming sites.
PBS now has "enhanced underwriting", with sponsor credits before and after each show (but still no in-show ads). But, the "good stuff" (concerts, Ken Burns' documentaries, etc.) is always interrupted during "Pledge Weeks", when they break and ask for donations/memberships.
TRue, it's the same for me, I started to watch Doctor Who just before Tom Baker became the doctor from John Pertwee. I hate steaming sites, I don't watch any of the shows on Streaming. I usually wait the show ends up in syndication a few years after the original broadcast.
That’s why you collect DVDs and blu rays
As an Australian, moving to Disney+ is a spit in the face to the ABC, a partnership which stretched back to basically the beginning. DW on Disney+ = Sailing the Internet Seas
Edit: It being on the ABC was completely free, as the ABC is a national broadcaster
I'm Australian, so this is devastating that it won't be on the ABC. Part of my childhood was staying up late to watch doctor who with my mum, and its still something we love sharing. And considering how long the ABC has been broadcasting Doctor who, i feel like the BBC has really stabbed them in the back with this exclusive deal with Disney+. This combined with Disney stopping its release of physical media in australian feels like Disney is definitely trying to limit other options for Aussies by forcing more people to use their services in order to watch their favourite shows and movies, which isnt so great for people who dont have the money to spare on streaming services. God forbid Disney try to influence or control the writing of future Doctor who episodes and turn it into another cash grab production.
Or worse: Turn The Doctor Who Franchise into a WORSE OFF Cash Grab than Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger did to Star Wars.
In the US, in order to watch it I either need a full cable package to get BBC America to see it (well over $50), or pay for AMC+, and hope I catch it when it's on, since that service doesn't store much videos. Coming to Disney+ is great for me, because I already have it, and I can watch it in my own time.
I really don't miss cable & trying to find a package that includes BBC America
Honestly think the Cable Companies could have made a killing with A La Cart channel selection. There are hundreds of channels...but honestly I only watched like 3 channels and had to get everything but premium channels...Ugh.. >$300 a month including internet. They would have had more subscribers if they were allowed to pick and choose. I don't give a rat's butt about most of the channels available...and I'd still be a cable subscriber if I could have just only paid for the channels I wanted.@@TurtleDustin
BBC America will not show Dr. Who in the US
It used to be before the Disney+ deal was struck but they (BBCA) started treating it lousy near the end (and before anyone tries to blame her for it this started before Jodie's run began).@@JeanBray-cj3lu
@JeanBray-cj3lu they used to. It was the only channel that did.
I know right now HBO Max has streaming rights
Watching Doctor Who on BBC America is sheer torture. The number of advertising interruptions when watching Jodie Whittiker's final episode made the episode almost unwatchable. I have the Disney + and Hulu ad-free bundle already so I'm looking forward to watching the new series and specials without a ridiculous number of ad interruptions.
Is/was BBC America free? I thought you had to pay for it or get a cable subscription
You need a cable subscription for BBC America but this is why I always used a DVR to get through the ads. Took a break from DW and have since been watching on HBO Max, it's nice not having to worry about skipping the ads but I think it's best to have an ad option available so there's at least a choice.
@@SeanFlesch Yes, you have to pay extra for BBC America.
Also terrible cuts/edits on BBCA that we didn’t know about
It was on HBOMax (or just MAX now) without commercials. I watched Whitaker's last few seasons just a few months ago with my daughter, and loved them, all without commercials. BBC America I agree never got it right and frankly was challenging always to watch anything on. (in fact it's still on MAX if you want to rewatch those episodes without commercials).
Canadian here. The former home of Doctor Who streaming here was Crave, a Canada-only service owned by one of our major telecoms that also has the rights to HBO and a bunch of recent movies. For us, the move to Disney+ just meant moving to another service at the same price point - but one with a much better app that we personally were already paying for as opposed to an app we rarely bothered with. Definitely a win for our household personally, and probably neutral for most Canadians who don’t have cable. (There is a different streaming option for people with cable, but… then you’re paying for cable…)
Of course the Finance Minister said it was a good idea to cancel Disney+. I can understand why she said it, and still think it was a poor example.
This Canadian agrees!
I think there was a time, decades ago when it was on for free to air on CBC television.
As a fellow Canadian, THANK YOU for explaining all of that. To add one detail, I'm in Hamilton, ON and don't have Crave. But I've seen every ep for "free" on CTV Sci-Fi. ( I still have last year's Special on my Rogers cloud PVR. I have to watch it before Oct 20th before it's erased. ) Luckily, for me, my only streaming is Disney+ (Thanks, Baby Yoda!) So I'll be good. Could this crap be any more complicated?! Again, great comment! Respect!👍
Additionally - no more commercials is a great incentive, I watched the first two episodes of Season 7 on Space and the fact they actually cut run time to put in ads drove me crazy so I only would watch the episodes a day later via Apple itunes. Did that until Season 11.
Yeah the abc here in Australia is feee with no tv licence so dr who was truly free for everyone to watch so now it’s actually going to be harder! To view since you need a pay wall to get it…so as far as I’m concerned this just limits the show’s audience rather then expans it.
Plus since the abc is government owned it had no adds so dr who with adds sounds horrific.
Yes. It seems Australia is one of the those territories that is disadvantaged by the Who/Disney arrangement. For years it suited the BBC to sell it to our ABC cheaply but DW's popularity now makes it an albatross around its own neck...cost wise I mean... and the ABC won't pay what Disney is willing to.
I'm from Australia. It was free to watch on ABC. We don't have to pay for any tv licences or anything.
Another Australian here. Yep.
But it's annoying that they remove and add random seasons
As a Latin American Doctor Who fan this union with Disney+ really makes me happy, since there is currently no legal way in this territory to watch either the classic series nor the new series. My only real concern is that for some reason in Latin America there is a service called Star+ (owned by Disney) which costs you extra money and it is in that streaming service where everything that is not Marvel, Star Wars or Disney/Pixar productions is found. (these are on Disney+) My concern is if Doctor Who would be on Star+ (which costs you twice the Disney+ membership)
Now you said that, is a good point. It never crossed my mind that it can be on star+... I'm guessing it'll be on disney+ because is a family friendly show, but who knows with them tbh
I want to believe is gonna be in Disney, have faith.
Você acabou de alugar um apartamento na minha cabeça! Tava pensando em cancelar o Star+ mas isso faz todo sentido
I'm actually very disappointed that Disney is now involved with Dr. Who. Disney ruined Star Wars, they ruined Marvel franchises and they will more than likely ruin Dr. Who.
@@doriangray6985 Disney isn't involved in production, and Star Wars isn't "ruined"
In North America we don't pay for a TV license. Commercials pay for the show. So we have Commercial breaks for products interspersed within watching the show as well as before and after. TV without cable is free. Cable TV gives you access to a lot of channels. However, shows are still paid for by Commercials, except for cable TV channels like HBO, showtime, etc which are premium channels.
I am a Whovian from Tom Bakers time, I have loved The Doctor for decades. I am also American and use to watch it on our PBS network. I have seen the really old Doctor Who shows, from the first Doctor on. Tom Baker is my fav!
The 1st episode I saw was 'The Keeper of Traken' around 1982 on a PBS Chicago station...I've been a fan until the 'gender' change....not happy with that....=))
Likewise, but the sad part is we were watching Baker when the new episodes were several years into Davidson.
If you're an old Baker fan, then you should remember it was Tom Baker and John Nathan Turner who first described the next Doctor as "whoever he or she may be". Tom Baker has said repeatedly he's all for having a female Doctor.
@@Tardisius That was around the time I started watching Doctor Who also. WTTW are the call letters for PBS in Chicago, even though I live In Rockford. I remember being episodes back then and being on around 4:30 p.m. "The Face of Evil" was the first one I saw on WTTW. I used to watch it on PBS channel 21 out of Madison, a different episode of Doctor Who. It was nice having 2 PBS channels on my local cable.
@@CritterKeeper01 Don't you mean the first female Time Lord named Romana. The Doctor was his name, not Race.
Not only does/did it have adverts on BBC America, after the first showing, they cut out parts of it to stuff in more ads and we have to pay for the channel. You could buy it same as the dvd collections an episode at a time from Apple the day after it showed on television.
Yeah, the cheapest service I've seen that gets BBCA access is also $25/month.
Exactly. We (in the US) rarely get to see the entire episode exactly as it was produced, because they trim it down to make time for the ads.
Before BBC America (a pay service) it spent time on Netflix, Amazon Prime, and HBO..all pay services. The only time it was “free” in the US, was back in the 70’s and 80’s when it was on PBS, who was always asking for donations (user support). Rumor has it that the PBS Station in Milwaukee, Wisconsin had licensing rights for Classic Doctor Who well into the oughts. I’m not entirely sure of the details..only that that PBS station had air rights long after the other PBS stations in the US lost theirs.
Might be a weird opinion but I personally don’t like that Doctor Whos budget will increase that much. It just feels wrong for Doctor Who to have this HD Hollywood kinda cgi to it, imo only the old, bad quality episodes have that real Doctor Who feel to them. But I’m still happy for everyone actually involved to get the opportunity to work with a way bigger budget now ofc :)
For me thee's always the roblem aof high budgets reducing creativity, when you don't have much money you have to be more creative over how to use it and concentrate on character over wow moments, that can produce a gem. Too much money can lead to all show and no substance
Not sure...I think most of the budget increase is for Marketing...but I do agree...the low-budget effects are what make Dr Who great. Like the fake boulders on Star Trek TOS. The ONLY thing they did that took me out of an ep...was the plastic stuff in Eccleston's run. That's not their fault tho. That's just the level of CGI they had access to in '05
they are not spending it like they don't care.... Course they care, that's why it looks so good. Show hasn't even been shown with this CGI yet and it's being criticized before coming out. It looks good don't see the problem.
Tight budgets created inventiveness in the first place
@@shemdellashemygd29 We're speculating, geeks do it all the time
Hi Ellie, As an Australian I can say we do NOT pay to watch normal television. Here it is called “Free to air.” We only pay for streaming services like Disney Plus. As I have already cancelled this I will have to restart my DVD collection of Doctor Who.
Isn't it comforting to know Ellie and WhoCulture is on top of the news? We depend on her and this site to give us the Who News.
Doctor Who has never been “free” in the US. As of 2005, the only way to see it was on BBC America. That channel was not free. You had to have cable TV, and you had to have a tier of cable that was more than “basic”, for which you paid extra. As I recall, that tier was ~$20/mi. and you got a bunch of channels, most of which you didn’t want, but you did get BBC America. Then for a while it was on HBO, cable & stream, also not free (~$12/mo).
PBS aired Dr. Who for a long time until a few years ago.
Was on syfy before that which was cable too. I know some of the early series aired on PBS in my former state but that wasn't long.
I actually when bbca was first offered in America it wasn’t a tier system it was regular cable and digital cable but when cable went digital only it became a tier system and the main reason I still have cable is having the cable company I did allows me to get max free but I don’t like that in America the show will be broken up behind 3 paywalls if Disney+ doesn’t get access to the whole series cause Britbox has the classic era max has the first 13 seasons and their specials and Disney+ will have the new content
It was also on Netflix for a while (again, not free) until the BBC pulled it in preparation for launching their own streaming service.
@jwb52z9 I think it's more than a few years ago. I remember in my area I went to go watch it and I was like, "Ugh, what's this Austin city limits show doing on at this time. For several weeks I checked. Unfortunately doctor who had left. I don't even remember how long it was when it happened.
I'm from Brazil and this last 10 years have been pretty hard to watch doctor who officially... since it left Netflix there have been no stable official platform to watch the adventures of the doctor here. Result: I didn't watched series 9 and 10 yet and I had to pay more money to watch seasons 11, 12 and 13.
So when I hear that doctor who was going to Disney plus then I thought
"oh gosh, finally, a stable official way to watch doctor who"
official is overrated
@@phtevenjL Take
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the classic episodes are on tubi
My only concern is that as time goes on Disney will become greedy and try to hamfist the production, provided this is only an international broadcast deal (as it should be) then I have no real qualms
Still in the dark about physical releases in Australia. Disney has recently announced that they are no longer going to provide sales of physical media here, so the only option for us would be bootlegs (which, incidentally, I have no intention of ever owning. I have no intention of taking money away from people responsible for creating the shows I love).
I am hoping that, as the deal is for streaming, only, we will still get physical releases made and distributed by the BBC.
That's precisely what my concern was too.
Doctor Who is still a BBC owned proeprty, Disney will have no say in the physical releases.
Disney doesn’t own Dr Who, they basically just have the rights to exclusively stream it.
Physical media is independent from them.
In regards to physical media.. Warning... Disney have already put a stop to releasing all physical media in Australia, it is expected that this would be the beginning of the end from their side of things.
However I believe BBC still own the show so it shouldnt change things for Dr Who
You know, at this point I think it would be hilarious for Rusty and the crew to just lean in hard on the whole "Disney interference" concern, and just have Gatwa running around in a full Mickey Mouse outfit, complete with the ears, for some part of that inevitable "post-regeneration weirdness" period in his first episode. No explanation given. End of the episode, he tosses it out the TARDIS door and the audience is comforted that, no, Disney is not being allowed to take over.
The general fear is that longer term, the Disney monopoly will be as bad for Dr. Who as it was for other franchises .
Star Wars fans
Marvel fans
Willow fans
Old Disney fans
"First time?"
@@johndododoe1411 I feel that with Dr. Who on Disney+, Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger will make the Disney Monopoly WORSE OFF for Dr. Who than it was for Star Wars.
In the US the entire modern Who series was on HBO Max, which was more expensive than Disney+ so realistically it will now be cheaper even with the recent price increase on Disney+. At least for us in the states. You will still need britbox for the classic series though.
For all of the American Viewers, until Disney takes over, Dr Who plus Torchwood and Sarah Jane is running on Max(formerly HBOMax).
Also, Disney is charging $2.00 a month for the service with Ads here in the United States. BUT you also get the Marvel Universe, Star Wars, Pixar and whatever Disney has made over the last decades.
Hope this helps.
Is that a introduction price for a short time period or the real long term price? And how long will that price last, before they decide to jack it up?
When I got the service last Christmas here in America there was an ad supported tier but it wasn’t significantly cheaper to warrant going with it so i got the no ads and it was $109 dollars for the year which isn’t much less then the cable I still have and the majority of what I have watched was there cable programming that when originally aired would have had commercials anyway
@@williamwells3026 Yes, the $2 per month is for 3 months for new subscribers. I think it’s maybe $8 for just Disney +,$20 for that,Hulu and ESPN+; then $70 for all 3 and live tv per month. But there’s about to be a price increase in October. 😡
@@williamwells3026 It's only for a 3 month trial subscription. Then it goes to $8/month. Anyway, Dr. Who has gotten so bad that I never watch now. I used to watch it religiously for years.
BBC America usually shows Doctor Who in the US (Unless you attend a special event in cinemas). So anyone who pays for a standard cable package has gotten it included. If it's no longer on BBC America, then yes, I can't imagine ANYONE cancelling their entire cable subscription and paying for Disney+ instead.
not just "doctor who with adverts" but "doctor who you are paying to see but you're still forced to watch adverts in addition to that to be allowed to watch it"
Doctor Who in America has always had adverts. They don't air the full versions.
The premiere (first time) was the full version. The second time and every other rerun was cut and full of adverts @@calidofrio13
@@calidofrio13 PBS who first broadcast Docter Who 80s and 90s didn't have adverts, PBS had fundraisers every 6 months or so. I have been watching Doctor Who since the 80s when it was Tom Baker.
@@quantumleaper that's great babes but we're in 2023. It's not even the same show that aired in the 80s.
@@calidofrio13 I have seen PBS ever since I went to only Internet and dropped the TV channels when I realized I rarely watch anything that was on cable. Too much cost for too little content. So did PBS add advertisements? or do they still ask for money from the viewers? It has been about 10-12 years since I watched TV.
sucks in Canada as Who was on CTV sci fi Channel , which was part of my digital cable package (works out $1 a channel) or you could’ve got new & the back catalog streaming on Crave ( which includes HBO , STARZ, Showtime & some Hulu) which costs a little more than Disney +… now all gone 😔 💔
Many other comments put this better, but when a new episode of Doctor Who came out and all my friends would get up to watch it on Australian ABC live was amazing. Now it is just on another streaming service which I have to pay for. I remember when BBC announced it and all the ABC instagram pages just being very sad about it because they have had such a long history and partnership together (through many different programs and projects) and now just not :( It is very very sad.
Literally every single person I know in my city has Disney+. Every friend, every family member, and every co-worker. So I’m surprised to learn this is a sticking point. I would think the typical Doctor Who fan might also like Disney, and/or Star Wars, and/or Marvel, and/or the Muppets, and/or National Geographic. So I would have thought most Who fans already had Disney+.
Boycott disney+
Why so?
As a German, I'm actually happy this happens, because it was really hard to watch doctor who since it left first amazon Prime and then Netflix and the DVD's / Blue rays are so expansive. Also I already have D+ for the Star Wars and Marvel stuff.
Es lief mehrere Jahre auf ZDF Neo und war auch in der ZDF Mediathek verfügbar. 😢
We lost the classic era from Britbox in Australia. I haven't been able to find it on any other service so am hoping it comes to Disney+ as well.
I'm honestly gonna miss watching new episodes of Doctor Who on BBC America. It's even sadder that this means that the holiday marathons the channel hosted are gone as well. 😭
I know I wouldn’t mind if Disney+ got the episodes first then bbc America cause I found the doctor through bbc America on demand looking through its on demand and watching Amy’s choice as my first episode I had seen and watching season 6 when it originally aired cause at this point the doctor and plant earth was the most prominent bbc show still airing on the channel with most of its programming becoming more and more American
BBC America butchered 10min + out of every episode to fit in comercials and for some reason they desaturated the color so everything looked gray all the way to doctor 12
I remember when PBS broadcast in 30-minute installments every day. Now you get the whole episode.
On our PBS station, "Doctor Who marathon" simply means maybe six hours of extremely old episodes, each hour separated by 15-minute pleas for money.
Doctor Who has been in America since the early 70’s anyway, we watched it on PBS when I was a child. Obviously it stinks to have to pay a streaming service, though you pretty much have to do that to watch tv now regardless, unless of course you pay the astronomical prices that cable and dish want. I don’t think anyone will ever consider it less than a British niche, we just love it too!
I don't know about anywhere else but in California you had to have BBC America to watch recent Who. That required a cable/satellite subscription which many people no longer have. Its 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other.
Same here in FL.
i'm in California as well I can vouch for that.
Philo has BBCA and is a streaming service so no need for cable. That’s how I watched Jodi’s series in Oregon
I used to get bbc america through a sling streaming subscription. They break dish network into smaller channel packages. It allows you to pay less but you get fewer. channels.
I still remember the day I went to watch Doctor Who on BBC iPlayer and was told I was unable to do so in my country.
I live in Scotland.
That has happened to me bfore, in England. Because I was using my VPN it thought I wasn't in the UK. A couple of clicks and it worked fine.
I remember as a very young child being introduced to the Doctor on PBS in the US, it only ran where I live for a season. The reintroduction was when the SciFi channel ran a few season, then Disney ran the same batch of season before the cable company finally started to carry BBCA. I honestly don't mind them going to a streaming service to get this show out there to a large audience. What I do mind is that the channels that carried and supported the show now seem like they aren't aloud to show this show that made them household names any more. Basically it has the appearance of "oh we got this great deal, so we spit on all of you that long held on to keeping this show going" which is what has made long term fans (me included) question will we ever see this show where it has long belonged again (the BBC affiliate channel)
PBS was my introduction to Doctor Who as well. But they didn't run them in order. Met Peter Davidson at a Con a few years ago and he was surprised that in my area I got to watch the 4th, 3rd and 5th Doctors. And in that order.
Same for me
You must have had a cheapskate PBS station. In Chicago we saw all the Doctors from Jon Pertwee to Sylvester McCoy in order and shortly after they had been shown in Britain.
@@lpierce8842 3 years behind you down the road in St Louis, was also Baker > Pertwee > Davidson and they stopped before we ever got to the Colin Baker era. Much easier to have a well-funded PBS station when your TV market is almost 10 times the size. They also never broadcast "The Five Doctors", had to attend a convention to see that.
My lack of concern and happiness about the deal comes from the fact that I could not legally watch DW in Poland and had to use UK based vpn to Watch it on bbc
The thing is though which is another concern for me here in Australia is Disney has cancelled releasing any physical media in Australia indefinitely and i'm worried i won't be able to complete my Doctor Who DVD/blu ray collection which is another downer i hope Disney doesn't go anywhere near Doctor Who from William Hartnell to Jodie Whittaker it's been on the ABC since 1965 almost 60 years ago it's been the home for Dr. Who there and i think it's disgusting personally that it's been taken off where you could watch it freely and now you can't we were devastated when we heard this news
I'm also very highly against David Tennant, Catherine Tate, Russell T Davies and Murray Gold returning to the show because there will be no evolution they had their time the show is about going forward not going backwards.
Hear, Hear as a Fellow Aussie I 1000% Argee with all your Points, even your last one!!!
I grew up watching Doctor Who on public broadcasting in the US, i.e., no adverts. Not a good move.
We had to stay up late on a Friday / Saturday / Sunday, but they usually showed one complete story per week.
As an American, the last time I was legally able to watch Doctor Who was in the Matt Smith era. After that, it left Netflix and or Hulu (can't remember which one it was on)
After that, the only way I knew of to watch was through Amazon Prime, buying individual episodes.
I did eventually get the complete series box set DVDs for each Doctor, but that meant that I couldn't get to the next Doctor until their whole run was done.
So being able to stream legally on Disney+, which I already have and use regularly, I'm happy.
Just my 2 cents
Here in Australia we have never had to pay a TV licence fee.
In Australia we pay for the ABC in our taxes. It used to be a famously quoted 8 cents a day. This pays for the infrastructure to broadcast across our huge nation and includes tv and radio. All ad free. An believe me there is a lot of infrastructure to maintain.
Oh and Disney won’t be releasing physical media in Australia. So we are doubly screwed down under. We will have to import from the UK
in the US you had to pay HBO/MAX or Cable with a BBCA (not basic cable)
Thank you very much, Ellie. As a lifelong Whovian, I greatly appreciate you addressing all these obvious concerns.
I’m a bit older so I watched Doctor Who free on PBS in the United States. When the new series came out I could only watch it on the SciFi channel a year after it aired in the UK until we got BBC America. If I wanted it sooner, I would have to get a torrent of it.
I hope that by streaming doctor who on Disney Plus that it will make it more accessible for audiences and fans outside the UK. I don't imagine that it will impact very much on the style of the show but I expect it will provide extra publicity for doctor who and maybe slightly more money for the budget. Great video Ellie and Who Culture!
We stream rather than pay for cable and love all the shows on Disney plus.
In the USA we have cable and watched it on "BBC America", which means we got 15 minutes of commercials for every 5 minutes of Doctor Who. They would cut the show for commercials in the middle of any scene. BBC American really really sucks.
and thats when they didn't put it at a lousy time or boot it for reruns of TNG.
Middle of America here. In order to watch Dr who, I had to have cable - I don't have cable because it is over 100 for the cable TV. I had hoped at one time that I could just get Brit Box streaming, But no, I needed a cable provider to watch Dr. Who. I already HAVE Disney plus, so learning it was on a streaming service I had made me happy INDEED! But, Because of what I had to go through before to watch Dr. Who? I can 10000% understand the issues of others who will need to get Disney plus to watch Dr. Who.
Previously here in Canada, the 2005- series was available free with your regular cable subscription. Which we all used to have.😢
My big concern is what the US involvement will end up meaning as regards quality; if you watched the US/ UK co-production of Torchwood you will know what I'm talking about. Just trashed the whole series with the involvement of Starz; and given the mess that Disney has recently made of both Star Wars and Marvel....yeah, I'm pretty freaking worried. Disney has a lot more clout ($$$) than Starz and they like to use it
❤❤ Australian TV! We have 5 main free to air TV channels. There are now a couple of extra channels for those so I believe that we now have about 12 channels that are totally and completely free. No licensing fees, nothing. I didn’t realise that you had to pay anything for the BBC, I thought it was like our ABC and was government funded. I’m so confused!
Brits still paying a TV license and choosing to brexit are not totally unrelated 😂😂
@@sharonlivingstone5956 oh, that made me snortle!
@sharonlivingstone5956 thankfully there is a lot of clever folk that have chosen to wake up and not pay the sill licence fee.
I have been watching Doctor Who since I was 5 first in the US then in Canada. That was the late 70s for me. They were made available on TV on PBS. For the longest time. And we had access to reruns as well. The older doctors. On PBS. So, even when there was nothing new, we had the reruns to watch.
The good ol' days
A short term problem however with the show being distributed internationally by Disney, and with Sony being its ultimate financial backer is - of course - the labour strikes that are currently happening in the US. Both Sony and Disney are studios being struck by both the WGA and SAG AFTRA, so no promotion (by actors and writers) can happen on this side of the pond re: Doctor Who at the moment.
Yeah, except that rule only applies to US made shows and Disney doesn't actually MAKE Dr. Who.
I don't remember a lot of promotion by the Dr. Who actors and actresses here in the US. They would occasionally make an appearance at Comic Con or something, but I don't know how many new viewers that resulted in. Probably not many.
North America (ie the USA and Canada) have never had TV License fees. The shows were broadcast over the air and then paid for by advertising (of which there is MUCH more than in the UK). Nowadays most folks pay a Cable subscription fee to have clean clear pictures delivered without the whole rabbit-ears thing, so we pay for monthly cable subscriptions that bring in a large package (10-50, depending on your deal) of different TV channels. Some specialty channels you can only get by paying for a higher tier subscription and that varies by area. The channels are still chock full of ads as the cable fee is only a delivery fee, one which seems to keep going up for no good reason. Naturally many folks have now ditched cable TV and pay for a high-speed internet connection and a streaming service to get their shows.
I've had Disney Plus for a while, but I think it sucks that people in the states have to pay Disney to watch Doctor Who now. I enjoyed watching it on BBC America, which came in my cable package that I already pay for. So, I guess we've always had to pay. 🤷🏻♀
Arr, no we haven’t, matey.
@@CaritasGothKaraoke I did say, "in the states" in my original comment. 😊
@@CaritasGothKaraokeYou have legally.
PBS aired it for a long time if you were lucky enough to live in the right parts of the US.
I watched original Doctor Who on the local PBS station 40ish years ago. PBS is partially funded by the government and partially through fund raising.
New Who iirc aired on BBC America, which afaik required either a subscription or was part of a cable package (or both).
Actually, this brings up another issue for me and possibly others here in America.
I had to buy each season of the Dr. Who show when it was on Amazon. Bought, not rented. Does this mean I'm going to lose my online purchase of Dr. Who since it's moving to Disney+?
I bought several tv series from Amazon that moved to Disney+ . I can still watch the ones I bought. However, buying future seasons have been challenging.
I had that question too. Hopefully I can at least enjoy the past episodes I purchased.
In the US, you already had to pay for it because it was never on one of the free channels. You might have had a channel that showed it if you had cable, but you had to pay cable subscription. So now you have to switch to a different service.
I completely understand the fear of losing that niche status. I've been a fan of Critical Role since the start. I was at one of their first con appearances. Their panel was in one of the small panel rooms on a Sunday morning, with maybe a 100 or so people attending. You could walk up to their table for an autograph and a selfie. Fast forward 7 years, and their photo/autograph sessions are completely sold out and their panel is in the main hall, and completely full. It's lost a lot of the niche status and the charm that comes with that. But it's also gained a lot from going more mainstream. And I'm sure Doctor Who will be no different. As long as they can retain the core essence of what makes the show so beloved, that's what's important.
Hey Ellie! Usually a Sean stan, but you are AAA+. Great vid!❤ Very sad that TV has become so ridiculously complicated, as opposed to the old school water-cooler talks that bonded people together the day after, back in the late 20th century.😢I...am...so...old!
No you're just wiser....like me 👍
Seans an insufferable SJW Hack with horrendous accent, Ellie’s a better presenter than him
In the US, broadcast TV has not had any fees to be paid. You would only have to pay if you were getting the broadcast channels as part of a cable or other streaming service. If you simply watch ABC, CBS, NBC, CW, or other broadcast TV channels via over the air using an antenna, there is no monthly or annual cost.
Great video Ellie, i feel you covered all the pros and cons there.
Ultimately, we're all excited to see where RTD2 takes us. Ellie, it's time you auditioned, there's so much love for you! ❤
I was born in the 1950's and had the great privilege of seeing Hartnell, Troughton (joint fave), Pertwee and Baker (joint fave). All of those series had massive followings and when younger was genuinely terrified. The BBC knew what it was doing. I grew up and lost contact until Tennant & Smith, which also gained massive followings. When Russell T left, things went downhill (except for some brilliant bits by Moffat) and Poor Capaldi & Whittaker had to deal with lousy story lines. The thing is... I still love Dr Who but the BBC has just let it slowly decline. Audience figures have plummeted in the UK. However, the younger generation prefers to stream, rather than like it used to be; watched as a family. Russell T is now back, so let's hope things are on the up and I presume he has reasons for including Disney +. (He must surely have been included in the conversations) It is a "british institution" and I hope it stays that way. It used to be terrifying and clever. It has lost its way and I hope it will not change to cater for the average yank. (My yank relatives feel the same way) I feel for the Aussies... you have been part of Dr Who from very early on.
Hopefully Disney doesn't get involved in production, cause they will ruin it.
That's my worry 😟
@@joannelively9934 Disney won't. How many times must it be said, Disney ownly has streaming rights.
@@jsutton0010- Yes, they have streaming rights, but the nature of Disney, is to interfere by degrees. The company is creatively bankrupt, and is haemorrhaging money right, left and centre. If they even get the tiniest idea that they can make Doctor Who into some cash grab, then those interfering tentacles will come out and start altering things in their favour. Pretty much anything that you have loved in the past, and has been connected with Disney, will have been bled dry, run into the floor, or toned down to appeal to the lowest common denominator audience. I'm really, really hoping that streaming is all Disney intend to do, but I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them, personally.
@brianartillery bbc is government owned, Disney will not interfere and if they do the government will get involved
@@jsutton0010for now…..
Here in Brazil we had Doctor Who for free, for a while, on an open public channel. I guess, all the way up to Peter Capaldi's era. Then everything moved to Globoplay, so you had all of he New Who there for a subscription fee. But when Jodie's era began, they sort of removed all the old episodes and they would only stream the current season. So, I'm pretty happy they are going to Disney+ and I hope they STAY THERE. Stop moving around so much!
As an American who started watching the show for the first time, I binged watched all of the Modern show on HBO Max (now just Max). I also have Disney+ though so I’ll still be able to watch it no matter what.
Same here. Just started rewatching it on Max.
I love you. You are so relatable. I had a concern as a Canadian.I am grateful now that my cable carrier, Rogers has absorbed Disney plus as part of my subscription. I am glad I won't have to endure the commercials now.(at least, I hope not.)When Doctor Who was sent to us the commercials cut some of the program content. Do you still work with Sean? I enjoyed your banter with each other. Thank you for your hard work. Take care.
It's officially confirmed by Ellie Littlechild that Murray Gold is... in fact... a COMPUTER! ALL ALONG!!
10:32 That may be the case in smaller European countries like the UK, but we can't push the envelope that far in my country, the United States of America. As a result of the country's size and federalist form of government, traditionally-broadcast television is still the name of the game, especially for local news, local sports, and game shows. We still cherish our digital video recorders (DVRs), like TiVo, for their ability to replicate the on-demand convenience of streaming with traditionally-broadcast programming: we can just request a certain show on our DVR, and the DVR simply downloads said show automatically while it's being aired, even when we are unavailable for any reason: work, school, travel, errands, religion, live entertainment, etc.
But what about the censorship!? especially in other countries like America, I mentioned this before in the last video... what if regional censorship becomes a thing? knowing how TOO kid friendly Disney likes to get and all, It wouldn't even be the first time Disney censors Doctor Who! I did mention the blur & muting of the word 'hell' in "The Impossible Planet" didn't I?! 😟
They don’t censor as much as you think. If they did, Andor wouldn’t have been allowed actual swear words.
In the US, you were paying for BBC America in your cable bundle. Hardly free!
Great video. Love the glasses... very 50's chic. Here's the thing, everything changes. Such is life. You know what's NOT coming to 4K? She-Hulk, they never rendered the effects in 2K even.
WRONG, She-Hulk was just green paint!
@@RaggedyDoctor11 I stand corrected. LOL
I have always had to pay extra to watch Doctor Who. First pay for Syfy. Then Bbc America. Then Philo. So I already have Disney plus and will enjoy it on there since the picture and sound quality is much better .
For me it’s the same as not being able to watch many shows over the years if they were in niche channels in the US for example. The biggest issue these days is the lack of physical media. Fewer shows being released in blu ray, let alone movies
It’s really not free in the US either, you already had to pay a subscription service or you had to pay for cable.
Yes, unless you watched it on PBS for decades, until a few years ago.
Doctor Who aired on BBC America in the US. Apparently the Disney deal puts an end to that.
But to the American viewer, it's really not a big change in that you were paying for BBC America, and now you need to pay for Disney.
BBCA was one of the hundreds of channels that we got for having cable for a single price, now we are going to have to paid an additional amount to get Disney Plus. Cable Tv is already getting too expensive just for the basic cable. @@janechoy2073
PBS airs it, but not new episodes in a number of years, depending on which PBS station you have, and that may end as well as PBS has to rebuy airing rights every year for shows.
@janechoy2073
It was part of my SlingTV service. Now I'll have to pay for Sling *and* Disney+, instead of just one service. I don't want to give Disney any more money than I have to.
im glad disney got it, we had to pay for bbc america if we wanted to watch it before, at least now its on a normal streaming service
I object to Disney+ or any streaming service/studio that puts all of the most popular content behind a paywall. Very anti-competition. ABC is a national broadcaster in Australia that is government run/funded. There is NO fee to access ABC, never has, never will. When I was a child in rural Australia, there was only 2 channels to watch on TV. A commercial channel with ads (no fee) and the ABC. The ABC was the reason I got to see Doctor Who at all. Doctor Who has been spotty on streaming lately. I'm going to just buy them on physical media.
The very fact that it's going to Disney Plus best describes the current sad state of what Dr. Who has become. I had a little hope when it was announced that RTD was taking over show running; but having Tenant & company return as well screams desperation to try and win back the loads of viewers who left in the past couple of years (viewers who left for obvious reasons).
99.9% of shows on Disney plus are trash which means.. they'll continue doing what drove audiences away.. that really is a shame.
of course, a more relevant question is how much longer will Disney+ be available? given the reported loss of viewers by that service, it may not be in existence in a long term sense. and with the way Disney raises their rates due to that subscriber loss, they may price themselves out of business altogether
I've been a fan since the Tom Baker days. I'm happy that it's coming into the streaming services, but I'm worried that newer series will be fewer episodes.
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I have to say I'm pissed about this. I don't have Disney, nor do I care to get it: I pay too much already for TV. I think this is a lousy move by BBC America.
Other comments from donei and markrandall explain the Australian broadcasting situation really well. In Australia in terms of physical media distribution we get screwed. We share region B for blurays with UK so a lot of the time we import. There's no alternative methods to view Doctor Who in Australia and Aussies are known for being the most prolific with piracy as a result.
For the past number of years, I have been watching Doctor Who on the HBO, aka, HBOMax, aka, Max streaming streaming service. This means that I have to wait months or more before I can watch newer episodes. Which is why I am currently a bit behind on the series. I am hoping with this Disney Plus arrangement, I will be able to watch the newer episodes sooner rather than later. Time will tell.
Australian ABC is tax payer funded, so no, we don't pay for it directly (ie TV license), but indirectly - it's also AD free
You have to pay for it in the USA too - it is only broadcast on BBCA which means you need a cable TV subscription. It's always had commercials in BBCA here.
In the US, Doctor Who was on BBC. To get BBC you had to pay a cable or satellite company and ofter BBC America was on a tier higher than basic. Doctor Who switching to Disney Plus is really no big deal since I already subscribe to the service. My problem, and I watched Doctor Who back starting back in the 70s, is that I stopped watching it when Jodie Whitaker became the Doctor. I didn't stop because of a female Doctor, I stopped because the storylines just didn't interest me.
I can’t understand people in the US complaining about the price of Disney+ and claiming they got it for free. BBCA has been a second tier cable subscription. Meaning you don’t get BBCA with regular cable package. You have to get expanded cable. That’s like $200 per month. It’s rather disingenuous for Americans to claim it’s been free.
I am French (but my comments can also apply to Belgium and Switzerland) and the only way to watch Doctor Who in France are the DVD box sets published by France 4, even if they are pretty and nice to collect, the episodes "Chrismath Invasion", Hursbund Of River Song" are missing and no Minisodes broadcast in France (only series 5 is on blu-ray). The only spin-off published in France is Torchwood. The classic series is impossible to find legally. and of course there are very few derivative products. I sincerely hope that Disney + will make Doctor Who more accessible in France
In Finland, Dr. Who has previously been broadcasted by Yle, which is Finland's public broadcasting company, but with the new Disney deal they lost the license to broadcast Dr. Who just as when the BBC made a deal with Apple and Yle lost the license to broadcast new BBC documentaries (so they rerun the old documentaries now).
Speaking of David Tennant, one of the streaming services (Amazon Prime or Hulu, I think) has a terrific episodic show called "Good Omens." It's great fun, and the first two (of a probable three) seasons are done.
It's on Prime
@@maryfrump7937 ...and I love it!
Australia TV is free-to-air unless you pay for streaming or cable. No TV license since 18 September 1974; 49 years ago. I agree there's a lot to be concerned for. We have Disney + for a few other franchises we love so I'm ready to go. Unfortunately, the options in Australia is moving towards streaming through Brit Box, Stan and Disney +. We can give a sigh of relief that Russel T Davies is writing the episodes.
For me i havent watched doctor who in years because it hasn't been on a platform i use so i feel moving it to disney+ would make me fully catch up finally! I dropped off after Jodies first season... but really i was a huge fan (still am) and i miss watching it! This is in all clarity making the show way more accessible for me
In the US we had classic back in the day on “public television” which was programming funded by voluntary public viewer donations, or corporate sponsorship. No adverts, and no commercials (corp sponsors got mention between shows). Otherwise totally free. Since 2005 it’s just been part of cable channel line up, but as one channel included out of 300+…essentially free.
The adverts on Hulu/Disney+ occur for 30 seconds to 1 minute 30 seconds before the show and don't occur during. Usually these ads are for products already on or coming to the service, with occasional outside sponsored ones.
Also, as far as i know, Doctor Who has not been publicly broadcasted (PBS) since the 90s, with New Who episodes available through paid cable services since it's relaunch in 2005 via channels such as [then] the SciFi Channel (which did mostly Sci-Fi media) and is now SyFy (which is more fantasy genre). Since the new era of streaming and etc, BBC, BBC America, AMC, AMC+ where Doctor Who primarily broadcasts, you have had to pay for such access. It gets complicated.
The other thing that i understand is happening, is that now that Disney is involved, they will be showing Doctor Who on their ABC (American Broadcast Corporation) Channel. Which is an "over the air" channel that does not require any subscription. Though you will be limited on how you can watch it. I.E. when it broadcasts, or if you recorded it.
From the perspective of a loooongtime fan living in Finland, Who going onto Disney+ is fabulous. Currently it is only possible to watch Who on the state broadcaster, YLE. And it's entirely at the mercy of their scheduling. They didn't broadcast it for years, then when they did some years they've shown episodes at nearly the same time as the UK, others years a week later, others more than a month later. In the age of the BBC's social media spoiling stuff within 24 hours, this was a pain. Who isn't streamed on ANY other Nordic-variant of the usual streaming services (not even classic Who on Britbox Nordic). So you're left at the mercy of VPN to iPlayer or *cough* magic viewing *cough*. Paying for Disney+ is a fairly easy decision. Particularly if you also like Star Wars and Marvel stuff too. They also stream loads of Stars shows that aren't otherwise available here. Besides, like with the BBC in the UK, you have to pay a licence fee to YLE in Finland anyway (it's included in taxation, so no dodging it).
In the US, you have to have a cable TV package plus the add-on for BBC America. There are only 3-4 main Internet/cable tv providers, so my cable/Internet bill with BBC America was often $150 monthly or more. Now I have $60 just for Internet, $20 for Disney/Hulu, and swap passwords with friends for everything else!
THANKS for this!! I'm a regular "Ups and Downs" Trek watcher so I didn't know about this channel? (Is this "Ellie's Channel?") Okay, subscribed! So....I used to watch 9 and 10 on UA-cam back when it was illegally posted on early Sunday mornings. I used to watch 9 and 10 on BBC America and it was a weird experience. IIRC, HBO Max has 2005-2022 and Disney+ starts now (?)
Americans have always had commercials with Doctor Who since the reboot. Pre-reboot, when it was mainly on PBS stations, we didn't...but those disappeared when the BBC stopped its deal with PBS. BBC America is not a "free" channel, either; it's usually part of "basic cable" for most people, but you do have to have a cable subscription to get it, it's not a broadcast channel.
American TV is advertising supported so all channels, except maybe HBO and Showtime, have commercials in the middle of shows. We don’t have license fees for tv networks here. The basic main networks are free. The networks make money from selling ad space during shows. These are the four main networks, the extra HD channels, independent stations and your local PBS stations. Then you get a subscription with your local cable company if you want more channels (but a lot of people are “cord cutting” and dropping their cable subscriptions). Even basic cable channels are ad supported though. On top of your basic cable subscription, you have to get separate subscriptions for channels like HBO and Showtime. Those subscription fees are probably the closest you’ll get to license fees in America … Also, on a side tangent, there’s no point in putting “BBC” in BBC America’s name anymore since it mostly shows American shows.