I once started making a comparative layout of all roland's drum machines in an ableton project. The TR-505+ TR-626 shared many of the TR-707/727 samples but without the snappy envelopes contained in the earlier units. It was all quite interesting. Many of the R-8s sounds are two samples and the Nuance function is like a crossfade between the two samples creating a living motion. Examining the Roland percussion library cd roms will also reveal some sounds from the same sources but usually shorter. Procrastination can be kind of productive I guess.
I prefer the R-8 out of the 2 because it was used on many music productions in the 90s including TV programs like Minder and Nick Berry's cover version of Heartbeat plus the R-8 also has very unique filtering that allows you to modify how the drums sound. The R-8 also works better with a Roland U-220 as it's from that same era. The R-70's drums were used in many Roland instruments throughout the 90s including the stock drums in the JV/XP/XV synths and some of the R-70's drums were also used on the JV expansion cards incuding the SOPCM Rock Drums card and the Super SRJV expansion board and the Roland SC-88/88vl's drum kits also use many R-70 samples. If I did want a drum machine like the R-70 I would go for a smaller Boss drum machine.
Thanks a lot! Yeah I agree, a pattern comparison would be great and I second thought about including the Dr660, which is really similar to the R70. 2 months ago I compared some dr660 samples of the internet with my R70 and they're really close with just a frequency "downspike" on the Dr660
I own the R8mkii and will never get rid of it. My only regret is not loading up on the cards. Although, I haven’t used it in decades, occasionally I’ll pull it out and sample from it.
It's not the converters. The R-8 samples have the compressed/gated sound of the late 80's. The R-70 samples are just an update to reflect the less processed drum sound of the early 90's. I have a TD-7. I sold my R-8m because the TD-7 covered all of it's bases and offered more samples and editing. I'm wondering if the sample set in the TD-7 is the same as the R-70, since they came out about the same time?
I agree with you. The R8 and R70's samples sound way too different (as the 4 in the video) . I heard about the TD7 though, but havent got the chance to touch one as they very rare in my country
For sound quality, R-70 wins. But which drum machine sounds that finally set the signature to General MIDI standard and becoming Roland Sound Canvas drum sounds? The choice goes to R-8!
@@J._Campbell I own an R-5 and an R-70 and my friends I've played with for years have an R-8. The R-5 seems more like the R-8 in soundscape but also has multiple tuneable bass samples unlike the R-8 and the R-70 has bass as well as some synth samples. The R-70 is lighter and not quite so bass dominant in its sounds. If you really want to hear the R-70 at its best the demo for that unit that's built into the machine is quite something. The R-5 demo is great too. Gives me ideas for videos!
I have the RY30 and yes its a great machine but the R5, R8 and the R70 are good too .the R8 have the most outputs and this change the game with external reverb eq and compression .
Both are sick
I once started making a comparative layout of all roland's drum machines in an ableton project. The TR-505+ TR-626 shared many of the TR-707/727 samples but without the snappy envelopes contained in the earlier units. It was all quite interesting. Many of the R-8s sounds are two samples and the Nuance function is like a crossfade between the two samples creating a living motion. Examining the Roland percussion library cd roms will also reveal some sounds from the same sources but usually shorter. Procrastination can be kind of productive I guess.
I prefer the R-8 out of the 2 because it was used on many music productions in the 90s including TV programs like Minder and Nick
Berry's cover version of Heartbeat plus the R-8 also has very unique filtering that allows you to modify how the drums sound. The R-8
also works better with a Roland U-220 as it's from that same era. The R-70's drums were used in many Roland instruments throughout
the 90s including the stock drums in the JV/XP/XV synths and some of the R-70's drums were also used on the JV expansion cards
incuding the SOPCM Rock Drums card and the Super SRJV expansion board and the Roland SC-88/88vl's drum kits also use many
R-70 samples. If I did want a drum machine like the R-70 I would go for a smaller Boss drum machine.
Would be great having both playing the same programmed pattern and also compared to a third drum machine, the boss dr660 ;) thanks for sharing
Thanks a lot! Yeah I agree, a pattern comparison would be great and I second thought about including the Dr660, which is really similar to the R70. 2 months ago I compared some dr660 samples of the internet with my R70 and they're really close with just a frequency "downspike" on the Dr660
I own the R8mkii and will never get rid of it. My only regret is not loading up on the cards. Although, I haven’t used it in decades, occasionally I’ll pull it out and sample from it.
Check out the Waverex card.
what sound is at 2:31?? Some sort of tamborine from the r8?
I have the R70 but really like the R8 fat snare here. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you too! Yeah Imho the R8's fat snare has more 80s / synthwavy feel to it. I would go for R8's fat snare in a Synthwave/retro track.
at .50 is that a built in sound on the R8 ?
It's not the converters. The R-8 samples have the compressed/gated sound of the late 80's. The R-70 samples are just an update to reflect the less processed drum sound of the early 90's. I have a TD-7. I sold my R-8m because the TD-7 covered all of it's bases and offered more samples and editing. I'm wondering if the sample set in the TD-7 is the same as the R-70, since they came out about the same time?
I agree with you. The R8 and R70's samples sound way too different (as the 4 in the video) . I heard about the TD7 though, but havent got the chance to touch one as they very rare in my country
Do the sounds really matter? It's the way these machines can be programmed that make them unique.
Ok.
Have they been recapped by chance?
Great video! ❤️❤️
r8
both sound very different, the R8 is much darker and the better sounding of the 2
Probably the most conspicuous sample is the China. You'll hear that Roland China through out music of the late 80s through the 90s.
Thanks!
You're welcome! =)
Thats why Sade used a R 8.....and Sade is a Goodess!!!
Thanks for this post very helpful
For sound quality, R-70 wins. But which drum machine sounds that finally set the signature to General MIDI standard and becoming Roland Sound Canvas drum sounds? The choice goes to R-8!
Had the R70 years ago and still own a R8 and two R5's
what's the difference between r8 and r5?
R70
I have a r8m.
i had owned both the r-5 and the r-70...that roland sample sound is a hard thing to mask if that is your intention.
Сравни R70 и RY30
The R-5 would be neat to compare too.
Agreed! That would complete the comparison (excluding the rackmount ones) .
R8 is professional studio dense sound. Wins of corse
@@J._Campbell I own an R-5 and an R-70 and my friends I've played with for years have an R-8. The R-5 seems more like the R-8 in soundscape but also has multiple tuneable bass samples unlike the R-8 and the R-70 has bass as well as some synth samples. The R-70 is lighter and not quite so bass dominant in its sounds. If you really want to hear the R-70 at its best the demo for that unit that's built into the machine is quite something. The R-5 demo is great too. Gives me ideas for videos!
R70 ka koi comparison nahi hai
Yamaha RY30 best drum machine.
I have the RY30 and yes its a great machine but the R5, R8 and the R70 are good too .the R8 have the most outputs and this change the game with external reverb eq and compression .