Looking at the PCB & Chips - Hardware Wallet Research #2

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2024

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  • @LiveOverflow
    @LiveOverflow  5 років тому +44

    Sorry for those who need captions! I forgot to publish them :S but they should be there now!
    Please let me know right away when I forget them for a video

    • @lucemansster
      @lucemansster 5 років тому +2

      Hey, could you take a look at the recent windows patch pertaining to IE and uts renote code execution bug? Im interested to see your views on it. ua-cam.com/video/65XOWNwXgvU/v-deo.html

    • @hubmartin
      @hubmartin 5 років тому +1

      Hello, I was going to look at your "making of" video but it seems private now. It is for Patreons only now ? Thanks a lot.

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому +4

      Nono, it turned into a two day stream, so just editing them together and uploading them as one video soon

    • @koenigsbier50
      @koenigsbier50 5 років тому

      Hey hello,
      I'd like to know how did you open the Chrome Developer Console for the Ledger Manager App?
      It doesn't exist anymore but I still have it in my Chrome Apps. However it seems to only open the Ledger Manager Desktop Application.
      So did you manage to use the Developer Console because you ere using an older version of the Ledger Manager Chrome App? Or is there a way to really attach a developer console?
      Thanks for your answer

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому +2

      In the chrome extensions menu there should be links to open the dev console and inspect the background page etc. but i havent checked the new app and how it all works now

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials 5 років тому +103

    Hello, electronics hobbyist here. The markings on the ST chip are most likely some kind of special internal number, either ST's or Ledger's (you can get custom labelling on chips if you order enough of them, and Ledger surely did), in order to conceal the secure chip's identity (even if it's obvious after inspecting the other chips). As for the other chip, a boost converter is a kind of DC-DC converter that boosts (hence the name) DC voltage. Say, you have 3.3 V and want 5 V, then you can use a boost converter. And yes, it's most likely for producing the voltages required to drive the display. The output current cut-off function is a safety feature against overcurrent (which could burn the chip), like in the event of a short circuit.

    • @jesperahman738
      @jesperahman738 5 років тому +4

      OLED displays usually need a slightly higher supply voltage. Typically 12V for small ones like this.

  • @irfangazi1473
    @irfangazi1473 5 років тому +65

    Holy shit ! Those camera shots look so professional
    Hard to believe it is made by one person also maintaining a full time pentesting job

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому +19

      #nolife
      But thanks :3 glad the work was worth it

    • @KentoNishi
      @KentoNishi 5 років тому +1

      @@LiveOverflow Love the quality!

  • @MadTracki
    @MadTracki 5 років тому +17

    That B-Roll footage is actually quite good and adds a new charme to your video. Stay up with that!

  • @marwanghamloush2662
    @marwanghamloush2662 5 років тому +46

    **appreciates beautiful shots**

  • @GeoffBernard
    @GeoffBernard 5 років тому +13

    I really enjoyed those shots from the new camera. I got a good laugh from your commentary while I "just enjoyed the footage from your $1,500 camera" :)

  • @AndrewCerny
    @AndrewCerny 5 років тому +2

    Best camera work ever! Totally worth the $1500

  • @bourne_
    @bourne_ 5 років тому +50

    JTAG? That sounds terrible @Louis Rossmann :D

    • @k1ngjulien_
      @k1ngjulien_ 5 років тому +10

      JTAG is really nice, Apple just uses terrible connectors :D

    • @roridev
      @roridev 5 років тому +3

      @@k1ngjulien_ > sees JTAG.
      >Instaly goes to PP3V3G3H

    • @bourne_
      @bourne_ 5 років тому +1

      @@roridev why do I know the reference even thou I don't repair Macs myself and I don't look at documentation while watching LR? :D
      Guess he talks about "PP3V3 Hot" all the time :D

  • @Kong_plays
    @Kong_plays 5 років тому +25

    Im loving the hardware wallet videos :)

  • @lycankarmah1976
    @lycankarmah1976 5 років тому +2

    The ST8R00 is a step up DC to Dc converter, it is used to take a lower voltage and rise it to a higher one. (With a voltage of around 4/6V can provide from 6 to 12V. It might be used to supply some parts of the circuit that works with a higher voltage of the 5V of usb like the oled screen

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      cool yeah, that was also my guess

  • @karlkastor
    @karlkastor 5 років тому +1

    JTAG is an industry standard for verifying designs and testing printed circuit boards after manufacture.

  • @dextermatherz8608
    @dextermatherz8608 5 років тому

    I don't understand most of these videos but I still love to watch them all. Good job keep them coming!!

  • @mebibyte9347
    @mebibyte9347 5 років тому

    Love the photography. Great choice on getting that camera! Great video as always!

  • @gabiold
    @gabiold 5 років тому +2

    Most of the time the labeling is not custom, it just does not fit on the package. This is always the case for small packages, like SOT-23, but that chip might also to small to fit the full length part number. It is worth looking at the datasheet's "Packaging specifications", and maybe "Ordering informations" section to find out the chip markings, which one belongs to which part number. Mostly the complete part numbers are long, because they not just contain the chip name but also the classification (industrial, consumer grade), maybe operating frequency range if there are multiple choices, access time for RAMs, etc...

  • @persianrogue4614
    @persianrogue4614 5 років тому +1

    nice explaining with electronic parts specially with drawing and zoom the camera .ur d best 8)

  • @Arthur-qv8np
    @Arthur-qv8np 5 років тому +5

    5 mysterious pins on the board and an enabled JTAG;) ...

  • @instantkaffeguld
    @instantkaffeguld 5 років тому +4

    "So appreciate them!"
    JAWOHL!
    🤣

  • @paulhendrix8599
    @paulhendrix8599 5 років тому

    Thanks a lot for the Pay TV smart card tip!

  • @mook403
    @mook403 5 років тому +9

    JTAG? I have a bad feeling the chip is going to threaten to ban you from Xbox LIVE if you mess this up!

  • @gender_nihilism
    @gender_nihilism 5 років тому +2

    you know you're early for a LiveOverflow video when it's not captioned yet

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      Oh damn i forgot the captions??? Thanks for letting me know!

  • @koenigsbier50
    @koenigsbier50 5 років тому

    Awesome!
    I'm into learning MCU programming recently and hoping one day I could hack some smartbands (aka fitness trackers)
    I'm not a low-level programmer at all, just a beginner in embedded systems so your videos on reverse engineering a Ledger Nano S are just perfect for me right now.
    I understand what you're talking about and at the same time learning new things.
    Thanks a lot

  • @FlesHBoX
    @FlesHBoX 5 років тому +1

    The ST8R00 is basically a step down converter for power delivery. Essentially a buck converter, used to take the voltage that the USB delivers and lower it to be usable by the components that run on lower voltages on the board.

    • @AnianBrosig-yv3jn
      @AnianBrosig-yv3jn 5 років тому

      the datasheet in the video states 6 to 12 V output, not sure where this is used though

    • @mrsoundso4897
      @mrsoundso4897 5 років тому

      @@AnianBrosig-yv3jn As seen in another comment: "Probably to power the oled screen, which typically requires something around 12V"

    • @positivemelon7578
      @positivemelon7578 5 років тому +1

      I'm pretty sure it's a step *up* converter

    • @FlesHBoX
      @FlesHBoX 5 років тому

      @@positivemelon7578 Yeah, if it's outputting 6-12v it would have to be, I'm pretty sure USB only delivers 5v ?? But I can't imagine anything on that board needing 6- 12v...

  • @e1337r0x0r
    @e1337r0x0r 5 років тому

    Boost converter is for power management.

  • @simonengelhardt7653
    @simonengelhardt7653 5 років тому

    Love the camera shots. Keep doing it.

  • @dnns1896
    @dnns1896 5 років тому

    Great video. I was not able to follow the information as I was too excited about your shots, but that shots were amazing :P

  • @sunfrost
    @sunfrost 5 років тому

    I love the new camera. Great footage.

  • @soviut
    @soviut 5 років тому

    The new camera shots look great.

  • @melluh
    @melluh 5 років тому +6

    These hardware wallet videos are awesome!

  • @mustafapc19
    @mustafapc19 5 років тому

    Appreciating THEM

  • @dxlultra1020
    @dxlultra1020 5 років тому

    We appreciate them! 😃

  • @daydreamingcase
    @daydreamingcase 5 років тому

    I just came here to appreciate the slick photos ;) what camera did you buy?

  • @abc321meins
    @abc321meins 5 років тому

    hah! 3:00 The video is so high res, I extracted your finger print out of it! :P

  • @nullderef
    @nullderef 5 років тому

    The boost converter essentialy just bumps up the voltage idk for what though maybe the display.

  • @ChrisEU14
    @ChrisEU14 5 років тому

    Maybe you should use a higher f-number, so the aperture is more closed. That way you'll get more depth of field and more of the small chip is sharp and i focus.

  • @cyrustakem7993
    @cyrustakem7993 5 років тому

    The boostconverter is like the "power supply" for the chips

  • @u0000-u2x
    @u0000-u2x 5 років тому

    Out of curiosity... how long did this research take? And do you have some sort of methodology of keeping track of what you find along the way?

  • @mEllzee
    @mEllzee 2 роки тому

    If I reset the nano X, is it possible for anyone including ledger, to be able to extract the previous seed phrase?I need to send mine back for warranty. Is it safe to restore my crypto on the replacement device using my seed phrase? Will the one I return be certain unhackable?

  • @robertm.6243
    @robertm.6243 5 років тому

    i like the "i dont care about cookies" addon

  • @RoiEXLab
    @RoiEXLab 5 років тому +5

    "It can speak USB" ahh I love when hardware chips are treated as humans ^^

  • @5speedfatty
    @5speedfatty 5 років тому

    that is one hell of a nice camera man. I'd say I'm jealous, but I wouldnt have a use for anything that extreme, not in the way of a camera anyway. so you enjoy that camera man. if it makes you feel better about your shots then take more of them man. I would assume its hella useful for doccumenting hardware and PCB's.

  • @DantalionNl
    @DantalionNl 5 років тому

    The low F stop for your b-roll is fine but I suggest having an higher F stop for your main video so more of the object you record can be infocus at a given time.

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому +1

      yeah I guess it was a bit too annoying at points. It was my very first experiment using such a camera. Before deciding to buy it I didn't even know about f-stop! xD

  • @chenseanxy
    @chenseanxy 5 років тому

    Probably stop down to a smaller aperture for the non-beauty shots?
    It will increase the depth of field greatly and show clearer image

    • @chenseanxy
      @chenseanxy 5 років тому

      Fantastic beauty shots tho..

  • @u0000-u2x
    @u0000-u2x 5 років тому

    hey, nice camera shots

  • @vasiliskonstantinou8577
    @vasiliskonstantinou8577 5 років тому

    Finally i was waiting patiently all weak :)

  • @Shinika01
    @Shinika01 5 років тому

    JTAG in the next video, yeeey !!!! :D

  • @carloschuler5202
    @carloschuler5202 5 років тому

    I think they use the battery chip thing as a constant current driver

  • @Lfomod1Dubstep
    @Lfomod1Dubstep 5 років тому +1

    Great video! :)

  • @harshthakur7215
    @harshthakur7215 5 років тому +2

    Hey, you stopped the telco series -_-

  • @Rednesswahn
    @Rednesswahn 5 років тому

    I don't want to hit the subscribe button! It would unsubscribe me from this channel!

  • @kebien6020
    @kebien6020 5 років тому

    I tried pushing the subscribe button but the number went down instead. What did I do wrong?

  • @enaechuong1024
    @enaechuong1024 5 років тому

    Nice video, keep it up mate

  • @birb9254
    @birb9254 5 років тому

    I'm learning how to hack right now and I want to ask on where will I start learning how to pwn.

  • @mythoughts1679
    @mythoughts1679 5 років тому

    Lol jtag (hardware debugger) enabled in a ledger device you can directly manipulate registers and CPU values

  • @Koto-Sama
    @Koto-Sama 5 років тому

    i am confused about the hardware. why is ther a boost
    converter? ships run on 1.62 V to 5.5 V or 2.0 - 3.6 V

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      maybe I also identified the wrong chip... I couldn't find anything about the display, and I thought maybe that the display needs a high voltage? But that is my guess with a lack of electronics knowledge .

    • @Karthor.
      @Karthor. 5 років тому

      Its probably for the Panel supply voltage for the LCD(SSD1306) that requires 7-15V while the IC logic of the LCD just needs 3.3V

    • @Koto-Sama
      @Koto-Sama 5 років тому

      @@LiveOverflow i found the same ship and the inductor above is typical for boost circuits. all the traces seem to go to the Display. i thought it would be a I2C, 3.3v Display. XD

  • @_iphoenix_6164
    @_iphoenix_6164 5 років тому

    "I have no clue what I'm doing, but it looks good" - LiveOverflow

  • @abhiramshibu
    @abhiramshibu 5 років тому

    JTAG is normally a programming interface

  • @_kett2164
    @_kett2164 5 років тому

    what camera/ lens did you get?

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      I have it linked in the description. It’s a Canon 80D and the Canon EF-S 35mm 1:2.8 macro lens

    • @_kett2164
      @_kett2164 5 років тому

      @@LiveOverflow I really should have looked in the description before I asked...

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      Don’t worry about it :)

  • @noahhounshel104
    @noahhounshel104 5 років тому

    APPRECIATE THEM

  • @kesmik
    @kesmik 5 років тому +1

    holy sh!t i love hw related hacking :) Hope to see more GSM videos tho :)

  • @cprn.
    @cprn. 5 років тому

    How is that safe to show us your mnemonic backup phrase?

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      maybe... probably... obviously it's not a real backup phrase? ;)

    • @cprn.
      @cprn. 5 років тому

      You cheater! XD

    • @cprn.
      @cprn. 5 років тому

      TBH I thought maybe there's a way to generate a new key on the device and you simply did that after recording a video about how to get the phrase out. Maybe. IDK.

  • @mcmundn8544
    @mcmundn8544 5 років тому

    I APRECIATE !!1!!!11!

  • @TheChemicalWorkshop
    @TheChemicalWorkshop 5 років тому +1

    I bet you can reprogram that puppy just like arduino or smth
    Maybe even try serial commands somehow

  • @user-rg1jp2us4o
    @user-rg1jp2us4o 5 років тому

    appreciated

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz 5 років тому

    What kind of camera and lens?

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      I have it linked in the description. It’s a Canon 80D and the Canon EF-S 35mm 1:2.8 macro lens

    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz 5 років тому

      @@LiveOverflow I see. I use the 70D which looks like an older version of the same thing (split-pixel CMOS, articulated screen). I've used Canon EOS bodies since they came out in 1987. Happy to give pointers or answer questions.

  • @dasten123
    @dasten123 5 років тому

    0:16 "vires in numeris"? I thought that means "lots of viruses"

  • @mikelinsi
    @mikelinsi 5 років тому

    7:21 I like these short interruptions. But can you explain how you mean this? is it total important or not for you? There a people how not have maybe the same skills in langue like dyslexia and more.

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      It’s just a joke of course. Who cares about that ;)

  • @stephenkamenar
    @stephenkamenar 5 років тому

    i like the crypto themes

  • @Veso266
    @Veso266 5 років тому

    what do you do for a living beside youtube?

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому +1

      I haven't really earned anything with youtube. I just created a business for this channel and started last week trying to earn a side-income with UA-cam. My main job is being a security consultant doing pentesting and security code audits.

  • @andersbl02
    @andersbl02 5 років тому

    Love you

  • @r00tb33
    @r00tb33 5 років тому

    waiting for next video...

  • @andreicadar2224
    @andreicadar2224 5 років тому +1

    Where can i find you and have a quick chat and ask you questions about how did you do that and that? Btw use your camera skills as a second job :))

  • @Torterra_ghahhyhiHd
    @Torterra_ghahhyhiHd 4 роки тому +1

    where have you been at al 2020. ;u..!! just gone from youtube. :(..!!

  • @tom_the_geek8929
    @tom_the_geek8929 5 років тому

    tipo-tipo!

  • @Novastuffnow
    @Novastuffnow 5 років тому

    Shots apericated

  • @forresthilton9289
    @forresthilton9289 5 років тому

    screw the timeline, the videow would be better if you hadn't menchond the Crome extension until you needed to

  • @abhinavpalacharla8175
    @abhinavpalacharla8175 5 років тому

    Does anyone know where I can find apache2.4 settings for the apache2.conf configuration file in Linux?

  • @CryptotagOfficial
    @CryptotagOfficial 5 років тому

    Please make sure to keep your backup phrase secure by engraving it in titanium, check it out at cryptotag.io

  • @user-zu1ix3yq2w
    @user-zu1ix3yq2w 5 років тому

    Quality's so good, someone could reverse engineer your fingerprint(s). Like they did with chancellor Merkel's.

  • @jjppmm29
    @jjppmm29 5 років тому

    appreciate my artistic skills with a camera damn it (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

  • @user-cz9ss4yq4x
    @user-cz9ss4yq4x 5 років тому

    7:22

  • @zoes17
    @zoes17 5 років тому

    Only thing I can figure about the NB0 chip might be this: imgur.com/a/UYSYYhF

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      interesting! I wonder if that's coincidence or somebody liked that as a reference :D

  • @balazs4112
    @balazs4112 5 років тому

    I thought the best thing you can do with JTAG is this: ua-cam.com/video/a67p6pziKz8/v-deo.html Will be waiting what you can do with those unnamed test (SWD/JTAG) points.

  • @willful759
    @willful759 5 років тому +2

    *_fancy language_*

  • @achrafpokater6010
    @achrafpokater6010 5 років тому

    No come on, Show us more of your finger prints x)

  • @j3r3miasmg
    @j3r3miasmg 5 років тому

    I miss the face.

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials 5 років тому +2

    0:24 But if I hit the subscribe button, I'll unsubscribe from your channel and that number will go down!

  • @jakeyyyyyyyy
    @jakeyyyyyyyy 5 років тому

    10:45 :thinking: sound like xbox exploit

  • @grave0x
    @grave0x 5 років тому +1

    Woah

  • @cmatthew91
    @cmatthew91 5 років тому

    I solved my first CTF challenge at ctflearn.com, thanks for the quality videos

  • @damejelyas
    @damejelyas 5 років тому +4

    Run to like the video. then watch

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому

      plz watch first before rating it :)

    • @GRBtutorials
      @GRBtutorials 5 років тому +1

      @@LiveOverflow It doesn't matter, you can change your mind afterwards (and I highly doubt I wouldn't like one of your videos).

  • @damejelyas
    @damejelyas 5 років тому +1

    Helooooooi

  • @nunofelicio
    @nunofelicio 5 років тому

    In what way "Vires in Numeris" is "fancy language" ?....... Man that is Latin.... The way you talked about was like is was leetspeak.. :(

  • @MakeNjoy
    @MakeNjoy 5 років тому

    Honestly, the constant focusing of the camera is quite irritating.

    • @LiveOverflow
      @LiveOverflow  5 років тому +1

      haha sorry. yeah I was playing with it. I guess I was a bit too "artistic" with it :P

    • @MakeNjoy
      @MakeNjoy 5 років тому

      @@LiveOverflow I can appreciate that. I also find it wierdly satisfying when the focus is nailed perfectly.

  • @vkredgod2340
    @vkredgod2340 5 років тому +1

    EarLY

  • @adambzh
    @adambzh 5 років тому

    didn't get anything useful, JTAG? easily disabled by sceure bit/fuse, any none stupid manufacturer will disable it by default, even it just a toster controller

  • @metaorior
    @metaorior 5 років тому

    chrome again xDDDDDD

  • @J-wm4ss
    @J-wm4ss 5 років тому

    First

  • @InvestX
    @InvestX 5 років тому +4

    I love your videos, I also make crypto videos if anyone is interested 😉

  • @situationxd8650
    @situationxd8650 5 років тому

    I sir....great video please make a video about making own python tools and how they works...

    • @meithecatte8492
      @meithecatte8492 5 років тому +1

      He has a video about programming in python, go watch it!

    • @damejelyas
      @damejelyas 5 років тому +2

      This channel is not for programming

    • @situationxd8650
      @situationxd8650 5 років тому

      @@damejelyas what you want to say....

  • @situationxd8650
    @situationxd8650 5 років тому

    Ok