@@badpixel3248 I kind of hoped that he would actually play any role in GAA 2, but we didn't appear there. I guess this is because initially there was supposed to be three games instead of one, so they deleted one-third of the potential cases.
Ryunosuke is the luckiest lawyer. He gets the right jurors for his cases. In case 5 he got a stereoscope-enthusiast, communication officer, surgeon, and a ballistic expert-tourist. This was out of 6 million people of London. I guess he passed down that luck to Phoenix.
Actually, England's population in 1900 (year of DGS 1 and DGS 2 England cases) was about 41.5 million, and London's population was estimated to be a little more than 5 million people. So Ryuunosuke was even luckier. No wonder why Phoenix Wright wins almost every trial by a turnabout...
It is clearly implied that the jury selection was rigged in the game. But by whom? It wasn’t clear yet. One would think it’s Lord Stronghart but that doesn’t seem too logical.
"Uh, that isn't a way to judge a man guilty of a crime." "I'm sorry, could you repeat that for me? I can't hear well, you know." "(Ah, this is gonna be tough.)"
@@sonjaa.martin6269 you say that but Bruce Fairplay was the foreman of the jury in that case so it's conceivable that the other witness who testified alongside him would also be a juror
These sections are always funny. I think it's because the jurors are so self-centred and narrow-minded that seeing poor Ryunosuke try to reason with them is always hilarious. "PLEASE tell me you're not Vilen Borshevik..."
@@marcosseverini5297 Yeah, it's when the juror doctor says that a ballistics expert is needed to determine why there was no bullet in Sholmes, and not-Borshevik says that he's an expert in firearms.
Notice that the first part repeats six times while getting more complex, to represent the six jurors that tell you their reasoning while you start to think about how to make this work. The next part repeats four times, representing the four jurors you have to convince.
I still can't believe that the jurors are _actually_ randomly chosen. It just seems like too amazing of a coincidence that you have just the people you need to figure out the case every time.
A potential TGAA3 (which has slim chances of happening considering the second game's budget but let's overlook that) could develop this into a storyline. Instead of shaking it off as a wacky Ace Attorney coincidence, they could actually provide an explanation as to why the jury always seems to be meticulously picked specifically for each trial
@@HyLion i mean chronicles sold 500k copies which is a lot considering it doesnt have phoenix wright in the name. i would like to see tgaa3 be about apollo justice's ancestor and have arsene lupin in it
I can only see it partway. Situations like Beppo's boss in the 3rd case or Quinby and Joan for the cases involving the Garrideb household, I could see being an attempt to rip in the prosecutions favor if that was a thing secretly happening at that time But situations where their connections or knowledge aren't relevant until later on, while an extreme coincidence and insanely unlikely, I can't see as being deliberate by the folks in charge of the process (such as the stereoscope guy) Unless the madlads are trying to pull strings and rig things in Runo's favor when convenient or something
yeah I can't believe they didn't address this in the game. For the longest time I thought that was Stronghart fixing the juries .. but I could never work out why ..
In another video someone mentioned how this track repeats itself several times signifying each witness's account of the incident, until it culminates in one big damning statement (like the final nail in Naruhodo's case). Then at the end the song hangs in suspense, almost as if it's waiting for Naruhodo's response. One of my favorite courtoom tracks ever!
It repeats 6 times, once for every jury, then it gets slightly modified after three, having 6 divided into 2 equal parts maybe symboling justice and jury beeing unbiased, and then that culmination might be the verdict itself
Yeah, I remember! The first part repeats 6 times, as each of the six jurors state their reasoning, then the second segment plays twice as Naruhodou points out the contradictory statements, and the last part plays as the jurors change their verdict, and so on.
It repeats six times (representing the number of jurors), followed by a bridge (representing Ryunosuke's rebuttal), then melody repeats four more times (representing the number of jurors that vote "not guilty" to continue the trial).
i love how it feels like there is a back-and-forth in the music. really fitting since this plays while Runo has to argue with the jury (or i guess make them argue with each other lmao)
I think someone else even noted that the part at the beginning actual repeats six times for the six jurors. The part that goes 'dun dun dun dun, dundundundun dun'
I loved that line. It came completely out of nowhere but it was true, those statements didn't contradict each other at all, they corroborated your claim
I really wish we had a part when we need to expose an argument ourselves, using evidence of course but also arranging facts into a theory to accuse/innocent someone
Now this mechanic is simply great! It makes trials more fun and dynamic. I wonder why couldn't we have something like this in AA4 or after, I mean, it makes a big deal about the Jurist System.
Might be because of both the time and cultural difference. Since DGS 1 + 2 are both set mainly set in Victorian Britain, the legal systems probably had some difference. That or they just didn't think of the idea around AA4, which is far more likely XD
The main reason was the original creator, Shu Takumi, didn't really make any of the AA games after Apollo Justice. He didn't want to make more games around Wright because he thought that Wright's story was concluded. Corporate, being corporate, didn't care and made them anyways. The creator would only come back for the Layton crossover game and then the Great Ace Attorney series.
Well only Case 4 of Apollo Justice had the Juror System in place, and it was more of a test run than anything, so the Closing Argument probably wouldn't have made an appearance. Plus, imagine coding all that on the DS! With its limited space!
If I'm correct the reason why the jurists appeared in Apollo Justice is because Japan was considering at the time reviving the system. This also explains that after turnabout succession we never hear about them, because the jurists didn't come back to Japan
That feeling of tension and intensity. The feeling that of you mess up, everything you worked for is gonna come crashing down. This song is excellent because it exemplifies such a strong and direct emotion.
Maybe it's because that's when the jury suddenly seemed more intimidating? Before that point the jury included nice old people who were hard of hearing, a guy who really loved stereoscopes, etc. Then in the Dobinbough/Harebrayne case, five of the six jurors are (or at least look like) distinguished members of society. They actually give serious reasoning behind their thoughts and don't joke around as much, iirc. Not to mention, Harebrayne's case also just had higher stakes because of the Great Exhibition, him being Barok's friend, the connection to the Professor case, etc.
@@emliu5000 Not to mention that these jurors had a lot more ... Rational intelligence in a sense. They know their profession well. The magician and scientist both recognized Drebber (who himself is an expert in both engineering and stage magic slight of hand). The retired police officer knew Dr. Sithe as well, giving another perspective on Scotland Yard from years ago before things got so corrupt. And - of course - the female juror returns in case 4 as the wife of the missing Daley Vigil, setting her up as more than just a one time juror but an actual recurring character instead. Oh, and there was the foreman and the random small child with the corn, too lmao
@@l.n.3372 The foreman off this case was the one i fel most serious. I dunno but between the always stern face, how he pointed at Ryonosuke with the newspaper, he felt much harsher and no nonsense than his predecessors.
@@lsebastian9086 He was definitely a bit stern and no nonsense. I also remember him for his newspaper. He was reading a back article in the paper during the summation examination. I like to believe he was reading the article about the lost cat. Ryunosuke himself can check the back of the paper and see there's an article about a missing cat lol
The Jury's Assertions: There was no one else inside the coach, so it could've only been him. Four Passengers, an earning of 20 Pence...The driver's memory is trustworthy. That Guy stabbed the guy sitting next to him like this ...! Not even I would do that! I simply came to a logical conclusion based on every statement thus far. The Fellows in the coachmen's guild are honest. Our fee is always four pence! I can't believe he stabbed a man who was already on the floor!
Clash! Juror 2: Four Passengers, an earning of 20 pence... the driver's memory is trustworthy. Juror 5: The Fellows in the coachmen's guild are honest. Our fee is always four pence! There is clearly a contradiction between these two statements!
It's true that according to the testimony so far... On the night of the incident, the crime scene had *four* passengers. Furthermore, according to the driver himself, his earnings were *20 pence*. On the other hand, Juror 5 said the following: The omnibus's fare is always *4 pence*. Yet, if that's the case... A rather unnatural contradiction is born. Four pence a passenger. Four passengers. How much would the earnings be then? Right. The sums *{16 pence}* don't match up. Four pence is left over. That's just enough for *a single passenger*. Therefore, during the night on that omnibus... It was possible for *one more passenger* to be on board!
1.25倍速で聞いてみてほしいです。通常よりも危機感がすさまじく、また違った印象があると思います。 I would like you to listen to it at 1.25x speed. The sense of crisis is tremendous and different than normal.
@@vikas_room Closing Argument here supposed to be Presto Cross-examination indeed. Because you're on a blink of getting a guity verdict. If you can't turn the case around at this point, you'll get a guilty verdict 100%
The jurors are unironically some of my favourite characters in the series 😭 lady typewriter and telegraph, mister stereoscope, mister crazy knifes, the russian revolutionaire, the surgeon and the corn eating girl are so unhinged lol
I like this theme because its so *emotional* Like the music is exaggerated, it gives the sense of "bias and common sense is at play here, you better be careful, and persuade their emotions!"
When my girlfriend and I played through the game I kept on going ‘hey jury, I’m pretty sure the defendant’s guilty, you should all cast your votes!’ ‘cause summation examinations are so fun, and this music is SO GOOD!
I'm hyped for these games finally coming to the US complete with an English Dub. And for those asking the compilation is called The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles and will consist of both games, and releases July 27th this year, and it'll be for Switch, PS4, and Steam however only the Switch version will get a physical release.
Bruce/Oscar Fairplay deserves more love in the fandom. One of the only witnesses in the series we falsely accuse, and yet manages to be one of the fairest jurors.
0:45 I like this part this part of the theme so much. It represents your emotions at the moment you don’t understand what to do and who to pit together
Theres something about the tension in the violins that really sells this as a last chance for ryunosuke. Then when they play some notes twice and do that descent in the end… crazy.
“God summation examinations are so useless and antiquated” “...but most of the trials I’ve had have gotten the correct verdict solely because of them-“ “So useless”
Honestly shout out to the final jurors they were very competent they actually listened to both sides and had a reasonable reason to cause their 1 just 1 summation examination which was you simultaneously called out a coroner and some random waxwork (at the time) due to absurdity and no real proof but all were very willing to reason with you during the examination and it’s one of the simplest S-E’s due to their cooperative behavior to you
I'm rly sad they invented this fun fresh gameplay mechanic only to (SPOILERS) Not use it at all in the last two chapters, and only once in each chapter before it of the final game. The first game had 6 individual closing arguments and it was my favorite thing, so while I understand why there wasnt a jury at the end, it still hurts
Well...the reason this happened was a rather tragic one in a way. Due off how rough things went for reception off first game in spite off acclaim...their budget aparently got cut like Gumshoe's monthly salary....so theyw ere unable to use it fully in sequel. Of course they were able to turn things for advantage but man..
@@Goomenstein Well, im guessing that at certain point they feared they would had pushed their luck too far. That and im feeling also that part off the mood from case 4 onwards things would had felt a bit different.
Judicial findings: Juror 1: it's clear in my mind, the girl is guilty. The knife is enough to prove it. The fact there's no witnesses means nothing Juror 2: she seems like such a delicate young lady, the thought of her committing murder is troubling... Juror 3: the victim was found right outside her flower shop yes?..now if he died elsewhere.. Juror 4: I've been to that flower shop myself. A lovely little place, and the flowers are even lovelier Juror 5: honestly...I couldn't give a rats behind. I'm just here to sip my brandy and enjoy the chaos Juror 6: as a merchant myself I'm quite familiar with merchants row, always bustling with people at any time.
HOLD IT! (To Juror 5) *slams fist on pedestal* "Sir! This woman's life is on the line! How can you in good conscience be so indiffrent to these proceedings?!"
"For the record orient boy, I did not volunteer for this tripe. I was forced to attend for the sake of "imparting common kbowledge". As someone who is far from a commoner I feel insulted that my time is wasted by such an obvious affair"
@@MinusWorldInterviews _Well, I suppose we can't count on his moral values to keep his attention. But wait. Something about what he said that seemed interesting_ "If it not too much trouble to ask, what exactly do you mean when you say that this is an "obvious affair"?"
"Of course it's not obvious to a foreigner like you, but that girls trouble. You can guess it by her name, "petunia bloome"..anyone who is someone in this city knows of the bloome name, and her father, Thorne bloome. CEO of bloome Gardens. London's biggest supplier of fresh veggies on the market. The girl comes from wealth, never having to work for anything. The only reason she has her own shop is daddies influence, why, daddy never let's her go anywhere without an escort". (The last part about the escort is what ryunosuke asks Juror 5 to amend his statement to. It's up to you to see what statement it clashes with)
Someone please coreograph a six-person dance to this and call it "The Jury" or something. Like, how awesome that would be? Update: I'm doing it. Kind of. I think. Will tell you more lmao
Spoilers for TGAA2 I'm still mad that the last two chapters of the second game didn't have this mechanic at all, it was fun. It's doubly maddening considering that a jury would have been the perfect fit to bring down a corrupt judge.
It was supposed to be a closed case, after all the defendant was an important member of the law system. They could not afford to have public opinion in the matter because it had to be a secret. Would've been cool to have important members of the polotic wormd as the jury, but knowing that person they would've been either bribed or biased against the defendant.
@@LinkcarioX To be fair, the jury could have been a Matt Engarde deal where you present evidence that makes it seem like they were about to be doublecrossed, so they'd turn on him. Would have been an extra layer of odds stacked against you.
I really like this mechanic and hope that they incorporate it in future games. I really like that you are pitting the jurors potentially against each other with their own words. Though they come to one conclusion to say the client is guilty how each got to that conclusion is so different and is very evident the first time you do this. All you have to do is find where that difference is pit their logic against each other and put doubt in their minds since all you need to do is keep the trial going.
Please don't read comments!! I just spoiled myself I haven't even finished chapter 4 and I know things I shouldn't, but I just wanted to hear this great theme!
I actually would’ve preferred this theme to be the allegro cross examination theme. It’s just something about the summation examination music that gets me all riled up
Fun fact: You know you can tell if a male or female is speaking by how high or low the text tone is (male being lower and female being higher). For some reason, Quinby Altamont and Juror 6 switched tones so she had the lower male tone and he had the higher feminine one.
@@andrystein03 naw i believe they can make stories like that, just like that layton crossover but the thing is, this naruhodo stories just didn't sell that well in japan so..
![[ Omen 2017 + Pursuit 2015 ] ~ Dai Gyakuten Saiban 1&2 OST](/img/n.gif)
I'm just a tourist from russia,
but I'm expert of gun.
"Are you sure you're just a tourist?"
"umm.....I have come to London to sightsee. I am going to see the Crystal Tower now."
@@badpixel3248 Considering what happened to THAT tower later on....
@@dbclass4075 It's funny that I know what happens without even playing it because the trailer of TGAA sorta spoiled it to me
@@peanutbutter9388 It isn't detailed enough to help you in that case, though. Oh, and that is in Resolve, the second game.
@@badpixel3248 I kind of hoped that he would actually play any role in GAA 2, but we didn't appear there. I guess this is because initially there was supposed to be three games instead of one, so they deleted one-third of the potential cases.
Ryunosuke is the luckiest lawyer. He gets the right jurors for his cases. In case 5 he got a stereoscope-enthusiast, communication officer, surgeon, and a ballistic expert-tourist. This was out of 6 million people of London. I guess he passed down that luck to Phoenix.
Only exception is that ryunosuke didn't bluff.
A 'tourist'? Ok, if that's how you want to call it...
Actually, England's population in 1900 (year of DGS 1 and DGS 2 England cases) was about 41.5 million, and London's population was estimated to be a little more than 5 million people. So Ryuunosuke was even luckier. No wonder why Phoenix Wright wins almost every trial by a turnabout...
@@thewwmresidentnameless1058 but the juror's were clearly rigged. I don't think it came down to luck at all.
It is clearly implied that the jury selection was rigged in the game. But by whom? It wasn’t clear yet. One would think it’s Lord Stronghart but that doesn’t seem too logical.
"Those two statements clearly contradict... the idea that all I do is pit jurors against each other!"
Uncovering the truth by starting the equivalent of an Internet flame war
In my mind Ryunosuke was about to say "Those two statements clearly contradict each other!" but had to backtrack when he realized it's not the case.
God this felt like such a troll move on Capcom’s part. They know the dread of hearing this generic response means we have to load save hahaha
- On what grounds you consider the defendant guilty?
- Ah, yes. I like yore books better
"Uh, that isn't a way to judge a man guilty of a crime."
"I'm sorry, could you repeat that for me? I can't hear well, you know."
"(Ah, this is gonna be tough.)"
Yore books > Bourbon books
“on what grounds do you claim the defendant to be guilty?”
“he looks sus, i mean look. he’s a japanese”
“wtf”
Ah yes good old Victorian racism!
I was so hurt to hear Lay D Furst of all people saying that! I thought he was just a precious boye but NO
@@pumpkincat8336 I'm pretty sure it wasn't lay d furst if you're talking about juror number 3
@@sonjaa.martin6269 you say that but Bruce Fairplay was the foreman of the jury in that case so it's conceivable that the other witness who testified alongside him would also be a juror
@@pumpkincat8336 yeah, but Bruce had the same model as before. Juror 3 and lay d furst don't have the same model
'Good day. I am wisiting London for sightseeing.
I would like to take bus to Crystal Tower, please'
"When I go to meet my wife in jail - and thanks for that, by the way - I'm not sure what to say."
Where's this from-- the second game? It's been a while.
@@AB-dm1wz Ah, it's from the first game. The first Closing Argument in the first trial of Case 5 to be more specific.
@@TheMemeExpert42069 Is John Garrideb a Juror?
That's not unbiased at all.
@@AB-dm1wz He's a juror, yes.
"Hey Mr Garrideb, I sure did help you out before didn't I?" - Ryuuonsuke, the totally not socially awkward foreigner
These sections are always funny. I think it's because the jurors are so self-centred and narrow-minded that seeing poor Ryunosuke try to reason with them is always hilarious.
"PLEASE tell me you're not Vilen Borshevik..."
i fucking laughed my ass the moment i saw vilen in the jurors seat
I hope they touch on Vilen a bit more if they make a third TGAA.
Herlock was right deducing that the revolutionare was going to blow up the crystal tower, just it wasnt you
@@Agent_Deko_ that got a chuckle out of me
@@thecommonman9524 I kind of think he served his purpose. Vilen isn't actually important at all and that's the entire joke.
The beginning of the song repeats itself about 6 times, one for each juror!
Then later on, repeats four more times representing number of jurors required to vote "not guilty" to continue the trial.
I actually never noticed that until now.
“There’s a contradictory in these two statements…that I constantly pit the statements of jurors against each other every time”
I laughed for a solid minute after reading that in the game.
When I saw that, I legit thought I'd made a mistake. Couldn't contain my cackle when I realised it wasn't!
Does that happen in Case 5 of the first game? If it is, I took a photo of that moment.
@@marcosseverini5297 Yeah, it's when the juror doctor says that a ballistics expert is needed to determine why there was no bullet in Sholmes, and not-Borshevik says that he's an expert in firearms.
I think it goes more like "These two statements clearly contradicts... the fact that I constantly pit jurors against each other every time"
As always, Juror 5 needs to take home 5 bob for the missus
Can't believe that ended up setting up the way of death.
Notice that the first part repeats six times while getting more complex, to represent the six jurors that tell you their reasoning while you start to think about how to make this work. The next part repeats four times, representing the four jurors you have to convince.
I still can't believe that the jurors are _actually_ randomly chosen. It just seems like too amazing of a coincidence that you have just the people you need to figure out the case every time.
A potential TGAA3 (which has slim chances of happening considering the second game's budget but let's overlook that) could develop this into a storyline. Instead of shaking it off as a wacky Ace Attorney coincidence, they could actually provide an explanation as to why the jury always seems to be meticulously picked specifically for each trial
@@HyLion i mean chronicles sold 500k copies which is a lot considering it doesnt have phoenix wright in the name. i would like to see tgaa3 be about apollo justice's ancestor and have arsene lupin in it
I can only see it partway.
Situations like Beppo's boss in the 3rd case or Quinby and Joan for the cases involving the Garrideb household, I could see being an attempt to rip in the prosecutions favor if that was a thing secretly happening at that time
But situations where their connections or knowledge aren't relevant until later on, while an extreme coincidence and insanely unlikely, I can't see as being deliberate by the folks in charge of the process (such as the stereoscope guy)
Unless the madlads are trying to pull strings and rig things in Runo's favor when convenient or something
@@athena8401 apollo's dad's dad in the kingdom of kurain
yeah I can't believe they didn't address this in the game. For the longest time I thought that was Stronghart fixing the juries .. but I could never work out why ..
In another video someone mentioned how this track repeats itself several times signifying each witness's account of the incident, until it culminates in one big damning statement (like the final nail in Naruhodo's case). Then at the end the song hangs in suspense, almost as if it's waiting for Naruhodo's response. One of my favorite courtoom tracks ever!
It repeats 6 times, once for every jury, then it gets slightly modified after three, having 6 divided into 2 equal parts maybe symboling justice and jury beeing unbiased, and then that culmination might be the verdict itself
Yeah, I remember! The first part repeats 6 times, as each of the six jurors state their reasoning, then the second segment plays twice as Naruhodou points out the contradictory statements, and the last part plays as the jurors change their verdict, and so on.
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I think that this is this video
I thought the same while I was playing the game and I was sure it wasn't done only without purpose :p I'm sure this guy is right
It repeats six times (representing the number of jurors), followed by a bridge (representing Ryunosuke's rebuttal), then melody repeats four more times (representing the number of jurors that vote "not guilty" to continue the trial).
i love how it feels like there is a back-and-forth in the music. really fitting since this plays while Runo has to argue with the jury (or i guess make them argue with each other lmao)
@FendronP But... That's how Iris calls Ryunosuke.
I think someone else even noted that the part at the beginning actual repeats six times for the six jurors. The part that goes 'dun dun dun dun, dundundundun dun'
Those two statements clearly contradict.... The idea that all I do is pit jurors against eachother!
I loved that line. It came completely out of nowhere but it was true, those statements didn't contradict each other at all, they corroborated your claim
“This is the truth of this case!”
Wait, wrong closing argument
I really wish we had a part when we need to expose an argument ourselves, using evidence of course but also arranging facts into a theory to accuse/innocent someone
No! That’s wrong!
Allow me to cut right through those words!
manga noised
Now this mechanic is simply great! It makes trials more fun and dynamic.
I wonder why couldn't we have something like this in AA4 or after, I mean, it makes a big deal about the Jurist System.
Might be because of both the time and cultural difference. Since DGS 1 + 2 are both set mainly set in Victorian Britain, the legal systems probably had some difference. That or they just didn't think of the idea around AA4, which is far more likely XD
The main reason was the original creator, Shu Takumi, didn't really make any of the AA games after Apollo Justice. He didn't want to make more games around Wright because he thought that Wright's story was concluded. Corporate, being corporate, didn't care and made them anyways. The creator would only come back for the Layton crossover game and then the Great Ace Attorney series.
@@kevc015 I was more talking about in-game reasons, though that bit at the end of my comment did kinda throw it off, but, yeah, that makes sense.
Well only Case 4 of Apollo Justice had the Juror System in place, and it was more of a test run than anything, so the Closing Argument probably wouldn't have made an appearance. Plus, imagine coding all that on the DS! With its limited space!
If I'm correct the reason why the jurists appeared in Apollo Justice is because Japan was considering at the time reviving the system. This also explains that after turnabout succession we never hear about them, because the jurists didn't come back to Japan
Damn, I didn't expect this music to be so good
This song plus juror's animation when stating their grounds feels so good for some odd reason...
Best moments in the series.
really didn't expect this track to be my favorite, i like it more than the objection and pursuit themes! but this is a BANGER
Even more than the “tell the truth” track?
@@robertm5110 that's also good, but yeah
the whole ost is full of bangers
I dont know why but this track SLAPS more than it should
bruh
Welcome to Ace Attorney.
Harder than Joan?
"Oh old man in the jury, i require your treasured guidance once more.."
I like how in the case it's revealed he is a surgeon. Whenever he submits his vote he hits his head against the table because he can't use his hands.
@@andrewrivera4046 hygiene #1
@@andrewrivera4046 Wow, didn't notice that detail. Thought he was just acting stupid lol
I love old man juror
everytime i play a case in DGS i always look forward for the closing argument because this slaps
When you need to save the defendant's life but you're too busy listening to this banger
this has no reason to slap so hard
ikr
My favorite theme on the entire franchise.
I feel that bro, it's in my top 3.
Same
That feeling of tension and intensity. The feeling that of you mess up, everything you worked for is gonna come crashing down. This song is excellent because it exemplifies such a strong and direct emotion.
What an ABSOLUTE BANGER
Hey, you, get back to studying!
lol, you say this after you said this is pretty good study music a month ago
@@damiantubbs4032 Basically, yeah =P
how did you-
@@VlogDoPajamas Magic.
Why'd you have to call me out like that, man?
Another moment of listening to Juror 5 say stuff about his vicious wife.
This is my favorite song in the game.
The moment that it starts, I know that there will be illogical, emotionally fueled shenanigans afoot.
I'm not 100% sure why, but this track hit me differently in the third case of the second game.
Maybe it's because that's when the jury suddenly seemed more intimidating? Before that point the jury included nice old people who were hard of hearing, a guy who really loved stereoscopes, etc. Then in the Dobinbough/Harebrayne case, five of the six jurors are (or at least look like) distinguished members of society. They actually give serious reasoning behind their thoughts and don't joke around as much, iirc. Not to mention, Harebrayne's case also just had higher stakes because of the Great Exhibition, him being Barok's friend, the connection to the Professor case, etc.
@@emliu5000 pretty sure it only occurs once in that entire case as well, right?
@@emliu5000
Not to mention that these jurors had a lot more ... Rational intelligence in a sense. They know their profession well. The magician and scientist both recognized Drebber (who himself is an expert in both engineering and stage magic slight of hand). The retired police officer knew Dr. Sithe as well, giving another perspective on Scotland Yard from years ago before things got so corrupt. And - of course - the female juror returns in case 4 as the wife of the missing Daley Vigil, setting her up as more than just a one time juror but an actual recurring character instead.
Oh, and there was the foreman and the random small child with the corn, too lmao
@@l.n.3372 The foreman off this case was the one i fel most serious. I dunno but between the always stern face, how he pointed at Ryonosuke with the newspaper, he felt much harsher and no nonsense than his predecessors.
@@lsebastian9086
He was definitely a bit stern and no nonsense. I also remember him for his newspaper. He was reading a back article in the paper during the summation examination.
I like to believe he was reading the article about the lost cat. Ryunosuke himself can check the back of the paper and see there's an article about a missing cat lol
This is pretty good study music.
I can tell Layton forever changed Ace Attorney music for the best
More accordion in video game music please
I'm pretty sure it's because the game takes place in London that the music is similar to Layton's style.
@@tristenj1992 it's also because they have the same composer
I mean the music has always been good and the og music 100% fit the games it was in.
@@adamryamizard5560 Great Ace has two composers.
@@andrewrivera4046 Referring to Yasumasa Kitagawa.
The Jury's Assertions:
There was no one else inside the coach, so it could've only been him.
Four Passengers, an earning of 20 Pence...The driver's memory is trustworthy.
That Guy stabbed the guy sitting next to him like this ...! Not even I would do that!
I simply came to a logical conclusion based on every statement thus far.
The Fellows in the coachmen's guild are honest. Our fee is always four pence!
I can't believe he stabbed a man who was already on the floor!
Clash!
Juror 2: Four Passengers, an earning of 20 pence... the driver's memory is trustworthy.
Juror 5: The Fellows in the coachmen's guild are honest. Our fee is always four pence!
There is clearly a contradiction between these two statements!
i wonder what the contradiction could be...
It's true that according to the testimony so far...
On the night of the incident, the crime scene had *four* passengers.
Furthermore, according to the driver himself, his earnings were *20 pence*.
On the other hand, Juror 5 said the following:
The omnibus's fare is always *4 pence*.
Yet, if that's the case...
A rather unnatural contradiction is born.
Four pence a passenger. Four passengers. How much would the earnings be then?
Right. The sums *{16 pence}* don't match up.
Four pence is left over. That's just enough for *a single passenger*.
Therefore, during the night on that omnibus...
It was possible for *one more passenger* to be on board!
@@derekstryder2281 Juror 5: Oi Beppo Show yourself
This fits SO WELL to the setting it's one of my fave tracks
The whole song is great, but that part that starts at 1:00 is so good it gives me goosebumps. Truly amazing!
1.25倍速で聞いてみてほしいです。通常よりも危機感がすさまじく、また違った印象があると思います。
I would like you to listen to it at 1.25x speed. The sense of crisis is tremendous and different than normal.
We'll finally be able to hear it playing with an official translation to english ^^
Now that I think about it, if there were a slower version to this song, it'd make a really good Moderato and Allegro cross-examination song.
for multi-stage Closing Arguments?
@@Nova-_- I meant for cross-examination but that would be even cooler. Like once he has the jurors cornered, it picks up the pace to this.
this does feel like the presto cross examination theme for some reason (like in the investigations games??)
@@vikas_room Closing Argument here supposed to be Presto Cross-examination indeed. Because you're on a blink of getting a guity verdict. If you can't turn the case around at this point, you'll get a guilty verdict 100%
@@vikas_room I think A Battle of Wits ~ Opening fits better.
It was used as the final cross examination theme in the first game after all.
The jurors are unironically some of my favourite characters in the series 😭 lady typewriter and telegraph, mister stereoscope, mister crazy knifes, the russian revolutionaire, the surgeon and the corn eating girl are so unhinged lol
One thing every Ace Attorney fan fears: ⚖️
It even comes for the minister of justice when needed.
Well a certain character in the game fears it too now
When the scale tilts to the right 😭
"The defendant's suspicious in three ways. Cross eyed, hunch backed and Japanese!"
poor Souseki
@@IsmodesProduction :(
"Milord, that's racist!"
@@SeiyaTempest "So? We live in a time where racism is normal. You, as a person of this time, should know this."
@@TheMemeExpert42069 British society be like
I like this theme because its so *emotional*
Like the music is exaggerated, it gives the sense of "bias and common sense is at play here, you better be careful, and persuade their emotions!"
My six personalities trying to help me decide how to act on my date.
AA British law > AA Japanifornia law
Yet a prosecutor had a gall to call it outdated.
@@dbclass4075 true
Facts.
Not enought that this track lives in my head rent-free, sometimes it wants me to sing it obsessively and loudly.
When my girlfriend and I played through the game I kept on going ‘hey jury, I’m pretty sure the defendant’s guilty, you should all cast your votes!’ ‘cause summation examinations are so fun, and this music is SO GOOD!
Math class really hits different with this playing in the background
This theme is soo catchy
"Eh? What's that? You need to take a pee?"
It’s wrong listening to this music without hearing the occasional “HOLD IT!”
Someone: "How many times have you listen to this????"
Me: Yes
0:45 Love hearing the 'Investigation - Core' theme tucked away in there, but more determined. Very clever.
I'm hyped for these games finally coming to the US complete with an English Dub. And for those asking the compilation is called The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles and will consist of both games, and releases July 27th this year, and it'll be for Switch, PS4, and Steam however only the Switch version will get a physical release.
Bruce/Oscar Fairplay deserves more love in the fandom. One of the only witnesses in the series we falsely accuse, and yet manages to be one of the fairest jurors.
0:45 I like this part this part of the theme so much. It represents your emotions at the moment you don’t understand what to do and who to pit together
Theres something about the tension in the violins that really sells this as a last chance for ryunosuke. Then when they play some notes twice and do that descent in the end… crazy.
I was worried this new feature would end up just another CE I was wrong
CE?
@@NoahHalfSquid Cross-Examination
@@PWLfr ok
@@PWLfr It sort of does, except you could not present evidence at will. Not especially jurors can be quite stubborn.
@@dbclass4075 basically this mechanic shows the flaws of the popular jurors, specially when one said that Sosuke was guilty for his aspect.
I played this during the Danganronpa closing argument and fits really well
The defendant is guilty
> *slams head on table*
This song feels like as if you are performing a dance in front of judging audience. Wrong move and yer out!
Yooooo the castenets go CRAZY on this one!!! Absolutely SHREDDING that violin!!!!!!!
GUILTY *_(Repeat that 6 times)_*
“God summation examinations are so useless and antiquated”
“...but most of the trials I’ve had have gotten the correct verdict solely because of them-“
“So useless”
Listening to this because I was just selected for jury duty.
big thinkin' music
Honestly shout out to the final jurors they were very competent they actually listened to both sides and had a reasonable reason to cause their 1 just 1 summation examination which was you simultaneously called out a coroner and some random waxwork (at the time) due to absurdity and no real proof but all were very willing to reason with you during the examination and it’s one of the simplest S-E’s due to their cooperative behavior to you
I'm rly sad they invented this fun fresh gameplay mechanic only to (SPOILERS)
Not use it at all in the last two chapters, and only once in each chapter before it of the final game. The first game had 6 individual closing arguments and it was my favorite thing, so while I understand why there wasnt a jury at the end, it still hurts
Well...the reason this happened was a rather tragic one in a way.
Due off how rough things went for reception off first game in spite off acclaim...their budget aparently got cut like Gumshoe's monthly salary....so theyw ere unable to use it fully in sequel.
Of course they were able to turn things for advantage but man..
well 2nd have more investigation segment and most case is longer so it hard to animate another new juror
@@lsebastian9086 Really, it’s a miracle the second game turned out as fantastic as it did.
@@lsebastian9086 I feel like they could have reused plenty of previous characters if it was for budget cuts.
@@Goomenstein Well, im guessing that at certain point they feared they would had pushed their luck too far. That and im feeling also that part off the mood from case 4 onwards things would had felt a bit different.
Judicial findings:
Juror 1: it's clear in my mind, the girl is guilty. The knife is enough to prove it. The fact there's no witnesses means nothing
Juror 2: she seems like such a delicate young lady, the thought of her committing murder is troubling...
Juror 3: the victim was found right outside her flower shop yes?..now if he died elsewhere..
Juror 4: I've been to that flower shop myself. A lovely little place, and the flowers are even lovelier
Juror 5: honestly...I couldn't give a rats behind. I'm just here to sip my brandy and enjoy the chaos
Juror 6: as a merchant myself I'm quite familiar with merchants row, always bustling with people at any time.
HOLD IT!
(To Juror 5)
*slams fist on pedestal* "Sir! This woman's life is on the line! How can you in good conscience be so indiffrent to these proceedings?!"
"For the record orient boy, I did not volunteer for this tripe. I was forced to attend for the sake of "imparting common kbowledge". As someone who is far from a commoner I feel insulted that my time is wasted by such an obvious affair"
@@MinusWorldInterviews
_Well, I suppose we can't count on his moral values to keep his attention. But wait. Something about what he said that seemed interesting_
"If it not too much trouble to ask, what exactly do you mean when you say that this is an "obvious affair"?"
"Of course it's not obvious to a foreigner like you, but that girls trouble. You can guess it by her name, "petunia bloome"..anyone who is someone in this city knows of the bloome name, and her father, Thorne bloome. CEO of bloome Gardens. London's biggest supplier of fresh veggies on the market. The girl comes from wealth, never having to work for anything. The only reason she has her own shop is daddies influence, why, daddy never let's her go anywhere without an escort". (The last part about the escort is what ryunosuke asks Juror 5 to amend his statement to. It's up to you to see what statement it clashes with)
@@MinusWorldInterviews
_Wait, escort?....! Then that would mean....!_
"Sir, please amend your statement for the court with that last thing you said!"
Someone please coreograph a six-person dance to this and call it "The Jury" or something. Like, how awesome that would be?
Update: I'm doing it. Kind of. I think. Will tell you more lmao
I’m all for this!
I would so want that.
And specially when seeing the two jurors pitied and how would that go
"There was no one else inside the carriage at the time, so it has to have been him."
Spoilers for TGAA2
I'm still mad that the last two chapters of the second game didn't have this mechanic at all, it was fun. It's doubly maddening considering that a jury would have been the perfect fit to bring down a corrupt judge.
good point. maybe the jurors could be VIPs, maybe even the previous judge?
It was supposed to be a closed case, after all the defendant was an important member of the law system. They could not afford to have public opinion in the matter because it had to be a secret.
Would've been cool to have important members of the polotic wormd as the jury, but knowing that person they would've been either bribed or biased against the defendant.
yeah i guess it is a bit of a shame
@@LinkcarioX To be fair, the jury could have been a Matt Engarde deal where you present evidence that makes it seem like they were about to be doublecrossed, so they'd turn on him. Would have been an extra layer of odds stacked against you.
@@LinkcarioX have the jury be people that work for strongheart?
This really aught to be in the cross-examination theme compilations, nearly the same mechanics and all lol
I really like this mechanic and hope that they incorporate it in future games. I really like that you are pitting the jurors potentially against each other with their own words. Though they come to one conclusion to say the client is guilty how each got to that conclusion is so different and is very evident the first time you do this. All you have to do is find where that difference is pit their logic against each other and put doubt in their minds since all you need to do is keep the trial going.
Ah shit here we go again theme
The part one minute in, the feel of that, like you just pieced together something and still wonder where it’s going.
69420 time i listen to this
*e c i n*
This is the soundtrack of someone arguing with another. And the climax is when one realizes the other fucked up
This slaps
Please don't read comments!! I just spoiled myself I haven't even finished chapter 4 and I know things I shouldn't, but I just wanted to hear this great theme!
kazuma dies hahaha
@@DrickRT Mia Fey dies hahahaha
Frank Sahwit killed Cinder Block hahahahahahahaha
A new Layton and Ace Attorney crossover would be epic, or, more obviously, a crossover between Phoenix Wright and Ryunosuke Naruhodo!
Phoenix & Ryūnosuke are separated by over 100 years. I don't think so.
I do have envidence that shows Mr.Wright and Mr.Naruhodou have met together at the court.
And it's here: m.ua-cam.com/video/aGQ7OEXG4oM/v-deo.html
@@Chet_set As far as I know, Special Courts aren’t canon.
@@KJ7QLV Add time travel shenanigans then, we already have spirit channelling and stuff
@@SeiyaTempest Phoenix has taken Galactus to trial... Honestly, all its fair game in Ace attorney.
I actually would’ve preferred this theme to be the allegro cross examination theme. It’s just something about the summation examination music that gets me all riled up
I know everything about guns.
If there was some novel alternative explanation about how the victim was stabbed, I might reconsider...
this phrase gets thrown around a lot but this shit has no reason to go so hard
I get it.
The Jury System should have been introduced in Dual Destinies
I agree, it was such a waste that they just pretended most of the events from AJ didnt happened in Dual Destinies
what the fuck is joseph stalin doing as a juror in the british supreme court
Back against the wall but with hope on your side, you'll turn the tables. I believe in you.
Sounds like this could really fit Mario and Luigi series
Fun fact: You know you can tell if a male or female is speaking by how high or low the text tone is (male being lower and female being higher). For some reason, Quinby Altamont and Juror 6 switched tones so she had the lower male tone and he had the higher feminine one.
like the other comment pointed out,
the low and high note repeat 6 times, so i think its more of
low note-jury
lighter note-ryunosuke
@@SamsuManon That is not I was referring to.
It is implied that Quinby has a deep voice, judging by her voice clips.
@@trucygramarye6319The old man had a deeper voice iirc
My best study music
Closing Argument over Summation Examination
Juror Nr 1: middle aged man with beard
juror Nr 2: Absolute Baddie
Juror Nr 3: random blond dude
let the jurors shenanigans begin!
This would be funny as a Bb minor 12 bar blues lol
fraser essay music
sounds like it came from a professor Layton game
The whole game does. I hope we get another crossover.
it's the same composer
A new Layton and Ace Attorney crossover would be epic, or, more obviously, a crossover between Phoenix Wright and Ryunosuke Naruhodo!
@@andrystein03 naw i believe they can make stories like that, just like that layton crossover
but the thing is, this naruhodo stories just didn't sell that well in japan so..
@@yaonahr752 By the time DGS 2 came out the 3ds was basically dead, and the Nintendo switch came out the same day as the game
The first part sounds like the underscore of Allegro 2015. It just has that same bounciness.
I am confuse!