SPOILERS FOR DGS2, FIRST HALF OF EPISODE 5 Then you finally examine it that one time and your mind just fucking explodes. Really showcased how DGS2 was absolutely one of the best, if not, the greatest Ace Attorney game.
Yeah. That made literally any seemingly peaceful or innocent development cause for a potential heart attack. Susato: "Hey Ryu, I baked you a pie!" Ryu: "Aww, thanks!" *Susato's pie has been added to the court record* Ryu: ..... *gulp* Susato: "...you OK?"
He's actually the one of the most evilest ace attorney characters because he's running around the poor backend slums of London with an infinite supply of fish and chips all to himself.
Gregson - Why do I do what that girl says? That little girl wrote one statement about (S)Holmes saying I'm the most competent officer at Scotland Yard and my pay doubled. DOUBLED. Think what would happen if she were to write something else?
@@Gabowsk Honestly? I think the exact opposite may have happened. Remember the intro cutscene of 2-4? The victim was described as a nobody. I'm betting Iris did not kill off Greggy in her books based on Herlock's adventures, but instead has him live on through her writting.
Or to be more accurate, a competent detective that is always portrayed as competent and not as a competent person that has you guessing if he’s competent or about to do something weird but is, in the end, actually reliable when needed.
Probably one of the most tragic characters in the game, constantly getting pulled into the shittiest situations possible through his duties. And the worst part is Ryunosuke only learns about them after forcing everything out into the air, through Gregson or by piecing it together with what he leaves for you. He never really gets to talk about his place in the world when surrounded by these characters with larger than life ambitions and it makes him feel like such a humble man
@@rohandatta7111 Dude, SHUT UP. You've been plastering that spoiler(the one NOBODY FUCKING ASKED FOR) all over the damn comment section. At least have the courtesy to use a warning. These games are still very new to western/English audiences.
0:53 - 1:05 feels really melancholic to me, for some strange reason. Like it feels like Gregson is really suffering and the only way it’s expressed is through his theme
I mean we have gumshoe who is incompetent as a detective (no wonder he got the salary cut), emma who certainly not interested to become a homicide detective and more interested in snacking, fulbright is basically gumshoe 2.0 before the plot twist
It was Jigoku’s one mistake. If he hadn’t have put it back in Gregson’s pocket no one would have suspected the time of death being altered and he would have gotten away with Gregson’s murder.
@@art-cs6us yeah but they probably would dismiss it anyway, like i don't think it would be accepted as evidence best thing jigoku should have done is just buy another goddamn fish n chips
SPOILERS--- Gumshoe is Gumshoe, but I think Gregsy is even better in his own way. We see him involved in plenty of good ol fabricating evidence and corruption from nearly the very beginning, and in multiple cases, but his death is still one of the most painful in the series. There are corrupt characters that end up sympathetic, but not lovable, like part of the family. The parallels to Gumshoe as the kinda comic relief helpful cop are obvious, but character wise he feels complex and central enough to be a Godot or something on top of that. I've felt emotional about plenty of other deaths, but nothing still makes my stomach churn like imagining this poor dude curled up right there while we're watching a friendly reunion.
You can tell he's written well because despite all he did, he's never treated like a villain. His arc is essentially a villain plot twist and yet when we see him die it's _horrifying_ . It's the death of a friend. It's the death of family. He sinks to a level of Stronghart's machinations and yet it's impossible to see him as one of the worst villains because it's _Gregson_ . He's just a silly guy who loves his fish n chips and yet he's also the reason for Genshin being falsely found guilty. He's the mind behind the 15 deaths to the Reaper. He struck a deal that would result in Gina's death, with a man who he realised was committing high treason. And despite all this, he's just a silly guy who loves his chips.
*Sproleirs uwu* Jigoku was really well done. Nobody would ever expect him to be relevant, since no Judge in the franchise has been. And then, when he's formally introduced in the last case, he's shown to be that goofy uncle everyone loves. I was actually pretty sad when he turned out to be Gregson's killer, really liked both of them.
Well thats certainly a spoiler. Im still in DGS 1 and this comment basically tells me everything I need to know about what will probably happen in DGS 2. Should have probably made this Spoiler marked immediately.
If Capcom makes a TGAA 3 I want Gina's theme to have gregsons mixed in like the professor and kazumas that would be so sweet and I would so cry to that
Spoilers Ah yes, the theme of one of the coolest detectives. Also the theme of the guy dead 3 meters in front of me hidden in the trunk of a guy I thought I could trust in a moment I thought was just harmless fun. Yep no emotional trauma there.
@@XenithXenaku Actually, wasn't is about someone else? Cus I'm pretty sure Sherlock Holmes is a public domain at this point, with how long it's been. Might be wrong though, so don't quote me on that.
*Before you read my comment any further, make sure you've played through both Adventures and Resolve first. Otherwise this'll spoil something major for ya.* Man...Gregson is the type of character where the more you progress through the game, the more ya can't help but to start enjoying his presence every time you see him. Which made it all the more heartbreaking and a massive jab to the gut to the player when he winds up being the murder victim in the second to last case of Resolve. Doesn't help that I grew to love Gina too as a character so seeing her absolutely depressed as a result of his death was an extra blow to the gut for good measure. What I found to be the most disturbing part of that whole case was the fact that this man that you grew to get to know throughout the entirety of these two games, was practically right in front of you at the very beginning of the 4th chapter as a deceased corpse inside Jigoku's luggage chest. Hell said luggage is even in the group picture which makes what is meant to be a nice moment at the time, so much more morbid and creepy. I can't say I was ever that much attached to Gregson myself, but he was definitely a pretty fun character to talk to. His actions by the end are messed up, but it was certainly good to know that before he had passed away unexpectedly, he was planning to get himself back on the right track for Gina's sake. I can't say he'll ever hold a candle to the dorky modern day Detective in Gumshoe (or Ema for that matter) but he didn't need to cause he was on a whole different level of cool all on his own. Rest In Peace you Fish n' Chips loving Detective. May your memory forever live on in your role within the Holmes/Sholmes stories for so many years.
I keep telling myself "He would've died of age anyway." so I wouldn't cry.That's another detective to add to capcoms basement of characters you'll never see again
SPOILERS . . . . . . . . . . . It's amazing how important and involved this man became. I should had known it with how melancholic his theme turns. It's also pretty cool how the song has bits of AA1's Investigation theme
spoilers for GAA2 C5 i hope that i was not the only person who realised that the government secrets that gregson was attempting to keep secret was an assassination plot against him that he was unaware of
Spoilers for DGS2: In the last case of the first game when the two brothers accused are "pretending" to form a trio with Gregson, was it a foreshadowing that he was really working with criminals in the shadows and not just some silly gimmick?
For those who haven't completed Chronicles (Resolve) yet, DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS AND REPLIES! Someone is posting spoilers on the replies and it ruins the experience for everyone. It's a guy named Rohan Datta. With an OREO profile pic no less. (If this Rohan Datta thinks of changing his profile, think again. You're already recognizeable as the "person who ruins experiences by spoiling", let that sink in.) So until you absolutely played and finished Resolve, DO NOT READ ANY COMMENTS OR REPLIES! Good day, and continue jamming to this amazing tune.
@@leonmystique9372 honestly if somebody gets spoiled because watching comments it's their fault. I always avoid watching comments when I have not finished the game yet.
@@mikapoful It does, and sometimes curiosity get the better of them. I haven't played Resolve yet, but even if I know the spoilers I won't even bother ruining everyone's time because they need their experiences.
Spoilers for TGAA2-5: I ready ended up loving Gregson as a character. He's far from perfect, but you can tell that he was slowly cracking, wanting to be a better person. While he contributed with an assassin ring, he unironically ended up being the one who helped with putting a stop to Stronghart. He went out of his way to confess that Genshin's case had fake evidence to Kazuma, and if he never did that, Stronghart wouldn't have been defeated. We also saw in the flashback how he's angry at Stronghart for choosing to fabricate evidence. He also tried to escape from London with Gina, probably being afraid that she becomes the next target for the reaper organisation. And in case 2-3, he went out of his way to allow Ryonosuke and the rest to investigate the scene of Enoch Drebber hiding place, even though the rules were that only the Forensic Team can investigate that. He even stood up to Dr Sithe, telling her in the face that it was thanks to Ryo and his friends that Enoch's hiding place was discovered thanks to them. At the end, Gregson was a man doing his job and what he was told, even if it were dark stuff. But he was slowly cracking out of that. And the tragic part is, he died before he ever got the chance to fully change and crack out of all that dark world. He's a character who practically died mid-redemption. A man who was faited to change, who was showing signs of such change, but die before he could fully do so.
Well to be fair, you should catch up and finish the game before worrying about spoilers. The rule is to never look at a comment section for anything unless you finish the topic.
@@Samstar369 When the spoilers literally are "oh i feel sad about what happens to him in DGS" thats just not acceptable. First of all this theme is also in the first game,so directly talking about anything from the second game that might be big spoilers is a no go right off the bat,and if you do want to talk about it you can at least do a spoiler warning beforehand.
@@Shazam1998 Yeah that anoys me this Morons all over in the Comments destroy the second game for all the People that want to play it this here is the MUSIC from part 1... So Stop Writting stuff that freaking Spoilers part 2
@@Shazam1998 I meand come on did i really needed to know that Something will happen to the inspector IN PART 2 did i had to ?... I just wanted to chill to the music
It's a great theme, but dang it, I cannot listen to this and not immediately recognize the beginning as the investigation theme of Dual Destinies. (Note: Massive spoilers in replies!)
@@thesaltgod Nope. The beauty of this is that even if you already played the game, someone who hasn't finished it might come along and read this spoiler, effectively ruining major twist for them.
Not sure if anyone will get this but when trying to search up for this theme I accidently typed "Tobias Funke". Both men have amazing mustaches after all
after finishing Resolve this song fills me with so many different emotions that it's almost difficult to listen to despite being an absolute banger of a song.
I just realised it takes both Tobias GREGSON and Gina LESTRADE to make up the ACTUAL detective in the books Gregson Lestrade. I know it's very obvious but I think it's a cool idea that the responsibility is split between the two.
Isn’t Tobias Gregson a minor character in the Sherlock canon? In any case it helps that Lestrade has only been known as G. Lestrade, so your theory still works.
@@Multienderguy37 If I recall correctly Inspector Lestrade's full name and title is only ever described as Inspector G. Lestrade. With no mention made of what the G. in their name is.
If you haven't finished both of the DGS games, don't go into any replies in the comment section, there's this Rohan Datta guy with an Oreo profile picture who spoils basically every big twist in the second game. If you have played through both of the DGS games, I ask that you report any messages he leaves in the future as spam so that he won't spoil anyone here. I hope this helps.
Just a reminder to people that haven't finished the game, stop reading the comments right now on any related content video of this game since there is a person who keeps spoiling the game. Also dont try to open fandom or wikia about this game. All characters in this game have spoilers. I've done that and I regret it instantly.
@@lenarratorsocietyofsuperio2731 and I'm sure soilders / police never hurt others. The important part is he was ordered to by his Job. He didn't do it because he wanted to it was a tarrible misdirection for the true villinuos mastermind.
TGAA2 spoilers, I guess Yes he did, he did many wrong things and he acknowledged them in the credits. He was doing his best to turn over a new leaf during the scientific invention case though and he was one step away from a new life in France. A shame he was robbed from it, even Sholmes was sad that he couldn't protect Gregson.
Also spoilers: That only counts as far as his treatment for Gina Lestrade goes. He did not have to make her part of the police force especially since she perjured, but I guess the complex circumstances of the McGilded case (specifically, McGilded’s coercion of Gina) was good enough for Tobias to take her in. Apparently he took great care of her, and I guess because of that Gina was not angry with Tobias for even taking part of etc. For all the faults he had in being a co-orchestrator of the conspiracy he did take good care of Gina when raising her to be an inspector.
Spoilers for the whole game: When I rewatch the walkthroughs of the game and reach the part where Ryuu and Su meet Mikotoba and Jigoku, I always want to say “Oh you don’t wanna know what or, to be precise, WHO is in that large trunk…”
MASSIVE SPOILERS Was Gregson is the only character in the Ace Attorney who's already well established, interacts with the player and main character a lot, and then suddenly killed off? I don't remember another important character that got murdered...
Argumenter_Respecter I remember a decent amount of interaction with her at Hazakurain before the murder. It's been over a year since I finished T&T so I'm not really confident now.
If I would make an tierlist of detectives in ace attorney games, I would put Gumshoe in S+ and Gregson at S. SPOILER WARNING!! I miss him, even when he was kind of a criminal....
@@spyro05 He wasnt a criminal ... he thought he was doing the right thing on behalf of that Mael Stronghart asshole.....in the end he planned to do the right ... He wanted to start a new life with Gina
That dude's an absolute failure of a human being. Man's life but must be so pathetic if he truly takes joy in ruining a story for others. Such a disappointment.
Not getting them involved though means not revealing Daley Vigil, who was a massive help in the final case, because he was the one who talked about the scarlet ink that Genshin had
MASSIVE SPOILERS I've grown to be very fond of Gregson ever since pondering over his role in the entire game. Among the characters that seem larger than life, he's just so down-to-earth, like a perfect balance, making him such a good minor character. Even then, it also humanizes him when it's revealed that he's also part of the Reaper. He genuinely believed that what he was doing was for the sake of justice, but you could still tell that his role weighed him down. He wasn't given the full truth, but you just know that if he ever found out about everything, he would have relinquished being part of the Reaper - which is why it was so tragic when he died. If anything, it was also the most masterful use of a character death in the franchise. It wasn't just the shock factor, but a reveal of the most bitter truth: that you are just a disposable in the system you tried so hard to maintain. Gregson tried his best to uphold justice, but in the end, he was just as much of a perpetrator as he is a victim. That despite seeming like a humble character, he still holds secrets, regrets, and convictions. Still, he wasn't self-righteous at all. He was acting in the best interest of everyone. His moral dubiousness makes him one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise.
“Aw, cute, they’re taking a picture together. That’s sweet.”
*_”why did it go in the court record”_*
SPOILERS FOR DGS2, FIRST HALF OF EPISODE 5
Then you finally examine it that one time and your mind just fucking explodes. Really showcased how DGS2 was absolutely one of the best, if not, the greatest Ace Attorney game.
Yeah. That made literally any seemingly peaceful or innocent development cause for a potential heart attack.
Susato: "Hey Ryu, I baked you a pie!"
Ryu: "Aww, thanks!"
*Susato's pie has been added to the court record*
Ryu: ..... *gulp*
Susato: "...you OK?"
Cant really forgive that guy that fold Gregson like a laundry tbh. But he does have a very good breakdown scene
Those who don't know *mr incredible chilling*
Those who know *despair*
@@violetytbby might be the greatest
He's actually the one of the most evilest ace attorney characters because he's running around the poor backend slums of London with an infinite supply of fish and chips all to himself.
Just chips, still just as evil
@@faultf4 the big roundish shape that hasn’t got the same outline as the chips is,infact, fish
@@loafofgodlybread9225 i realized about a few days after making this comment
its still evil
@@faultf4 nevertheless, no bri’ish man should be able to eat so many fish n chips
@@loafofgodlybread9225 gregson is just inhumane
Edgeworth to Gumshoe - *Salary cutting noises*
Iris to Gregson - *Salary uppity noises*
I'm pretty sure she decreased his significance in the Adventures of Herlock Sholmes edition of that month after the trial of the Great Exhibition.
@@Gabowsk she didn’t decrease his presence but she did make him have an embarrassing blunder
Gregson - Why do I do what that girl says? That little girl wrote one statement about (S)Holmes saying I'm the most competent officer at Scotland Yard and my pay doubled. DOUBLED. Think what would happen if she were to write something else?
@@Gabowsk Honestly? I think the exact opposite may have happened. Remember the intro cutscene of 2-4? The victim was described as a nobody.
I'm betting Iris did not kill off Greggy in her books based on Herlock's adventures, but instead has him live on through her writting.
AKA the theme of “Thank God, a competent detective for once”
Don't do that to my Dick. He is good.
Or to be more accurate, a competent detective that is always portrayed as competent and not as a competent person that has you guessing if he’s competent or about to do something weird but is, in the end, actually reliable when needed.
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@@iantaakalla8180 Hey Dick Gumshoe may be incompetent but you can't say he's unreliable.
Gregson taught me how to find a good fish and chip shop. - Barok van Zieks
Gregson could end word hunger with his infinite newspaper of fish and chips
He could basically be the next Jesus the way he make infinite fish and bread if he bothered to share.
but its only chips
hellooo kidney failure..... the tastiest one there is.
Diabetes and heartburn for EVERYONE!!
Yes please
Luigi if he became a detective.
Well, a slightly older, grouchier luigi, but a luigi none the less.
Also if Luigi was really into fish n chips
@@moxi_floxi Heard his trip to Britain did that.
I REALLY wanna see this now. Seriously, it would be kickass with the right artstyle and mood, kind of one that fits this track in particular.
Does Mario is Missing count as Luigi being a detective?
His relationship with iris is definitely one that goes:
Iris: look forward to your next salary check greggsy
So, he's basically Victoria era gumshoe.
*MIILLAAAAAAAAAAAAADDY!!*
@@LeFrancht75 you mean ladyship, right?
Iris: **Salary Cutting Noises**
@@blackdragoncyrus Iris: **Book Redacting Noises**
If there's a Great Ace Attorney 3, Gina better have an animation of winding that pocket watch...
I haven't played Investigations, but I know some of the basics and I feel Gina would benefit from her own game similar to that!
Probably one of the most tragic characters in the game, constantly getting pulled into the shittiest situations possible through his duties. And the worst part is Ryunosuke only learns about them after forcing everything out into the air, through Gregson or by piecing it together with what he leaves for you. He never really gets to talk about his place in the world when surrounded by these characters with larger than life ambitions and it makes him feel like such a humble man
Just completed TGAA1 and loved this guy’s role in the final case. I can’t wait to see what he does in the final case of TGAA2
I dont wanna spoil anything so im just gonna say.
Click read more if you completed tgaa2
im crying in the corner with gina right now 😭🤧
Moments before disaster
OK WHO TELLS HIM FIRST?
he plays a very important role honestly
Man I can't wait either
...to see your reaction that is
Thanks to the Escapade chapters, we now know that Detectives and Salary cuts have always been together since time imemorial
At least Greggy got a raise after Iris started writing on him
Our beloved fish and chips detective, greggyson. Actually really chill theme.
HE DIES. TOBIAS GREGSON IS THE VICTIM OF THE FINAL CASE.
@@rohandatta7111 bruh, like, why spoilering it.
@@rohandatta7111 Dude, SHUT UP. You've been plastering that spoiler(the one NOBODY FUCKING ASKED FOR) all over the damn comment section. At least have the courtesy to use a warning. These games are still very new to western/English audiences.
@@optimaltt6070 That's the point. I want to spoil it.
@@rohandatta7111 but why.
if you haven't finished the great ace attorney 2: resolve, *DONT READ ANY COMMENTS HERE.* there's some guy spoiling the game in the comments/replies.
Thanks for the info!
great info thanks
10Q!
My guy Rohan Datta ruined the fun
0:53 - 1:05 feels really melancholic to me, for some strange reason. Like it feels like Gregson is really suffering and the only way it’s expressed is through his theme
Hi
@@scrimblocoded Ratio
If only you knew
@@hermancrab1984 Oh I know alright. I played DGS2 months ago lol
HE DIES. TOBIAS GREGSON IS THE VICTIM OF THE FINAL CASE.
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Me: *sees fish and chips on the bar menu*
My friends: Why are you crying
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it's...nothing..
Has to gobble down the fish and chips so they don’t get stale… for some reason
@@iantaakalla8180 the fish gets stale very fast.
Thanks for the spoilers 😓
sry m8 you knew what u were getting into in these comments....the comment section is never a spoiler free place.....
We finally have a competent detective after shi long lang, gregson is quite competent by ace attorney standards
He's the best of Scotland Yard after all
@@PWLfr exactly
I mean we have gumshoe who is incompetent as a detective (no wonder he got the salary cut), emma who certainly not interested to become a homicide detective and more interested in snacking, fulbright is basically gumshoe 2.0 before the plot twist
Don’t forget dear ol’Tyrell Badd! The most badass detective Japanifornia has ever seen!
Lang's a detective? I always just thought he was an interpol agent.
Such a great character, his after-credits scene in TGAA2 might have elevated him to my favorite character in the series.
I don’t remember it, what happened again?
@@professorlayman523 SPOILER
It's the letter he wrote to Gina Lestrade.
@@talkinghoorse6936 oh yeah, now I remember
I used to enjoy listening to this theme but now I just cry...
Apollo Justice is doing fine :"))
hi me
DGS2/GAA2 Spoilers:
I love how they made Gregson's fish and chips an important discrepancy involving his death
It was Jigoku’s one mistake. If he hadn’t have put it back in Gregson’s pocket no one would have suspected the time of death being altered and he would have gotten away with Gregson’s murder.
eh it would be a bit suspicious if he DIDN'T have his fish and chips since he always had it with him, just like winding up that watch.
@@art-cs6us yeah but they probably would dismiss it anyway, like i don't think it would be accepted as evidence
best thing jigoku should have done is just buy another goddamn fish n chips
Why the fuck did I read spoilers and click read more anyway dammit I’m at the start of case 4 when you first meet him
@@herrforehead3745 His bag is infinitely regenerating, all Jigoku needed to do was take out the spoiled fish and chips.
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Gumshoe is Gumshoe, but I think Gregsy is even better in his own way. We see him involved in plenty of good ol fabricating evidence and corruption from nearly the very beginning, and in multiple cases, but his death is still one of the most painful in the series. There are corrupt characters that end up sympathetic, but not lovable, like part of the family. The parallels to Gumshoe as the kinda comic relief helpful cop are obvious, but character wise he feels complex and central enough to be a Godot or something on top of that. I've felt emotional about plenty of other deaths, but nothing still makes my stomach churn like imagining this poor dude curled up right there while we're watching a friendly reunion.
You can tell he's written well because despite all he did, he's never treated like a villain. His arc is essentially a villain plot twist and yet when we see him die it's _horrifying_ . It's the death of a friend. It's the death of family.
He sinks to a level of Stronghart's machinations and yet it's impossible to see him as one of the worst villains because it's _Gregson_ .
He's just a silly guy who loves his fish n chips and yet he's also the reason for Genshin being falsely found guilty. He's the mind behind the 15 deaths to the Reaper. He struck a deal that would result in Gina's death, with a man who he realised was committing high treason.
And despite all this, he's just a silly guy who loves his chips.
when he confessed his involvement to kazuma, it really sounded like he regretted doing it. he just wants to do what he thinks is right ;-;
I really love this song, it fits Gregson’s character so perfectly
HE DIES. TOBIAS GREGSON IS THE VICTIM OF THE FINAL CASE.
@@rohandatta7111 bruh
@@rohandatta7111 Everyone knows idiot, do you think we cannot read?
Finished DGS 2. This hurts now.
:’(
*Sproleirs uwu*
Jigoku was really well done. Nobody would ever expect him to be relevant, since no Judge in the franchise has been. And then, when he's formally introduced in the last case, he's shown to be that goofy uncle everyone loves.
I was actually pretty sad when he turned out to be Gregson's killer, really liked both of them.
Well thats certainly a spoiler. Im still in DGS 1 and this comment basically tells me everything I need to know about what will probably happen in DGS 2. Should have probably made this Spoiler marked immediately.
@@Shazam1998 Same man. The comment spoiled me that
Spoilers
Inspector Gregson is the victim of the final case
Ahhhhhh :"D
Awww the suitcase looks heavy
Bruh
The entire soundtrack to this game is fucking incredible. I especially love this theme
If Capcom makes a TGAA 3 I want Gina's theme to have gregsons mixed in like the professor and kazumas that would be so sweet and I would so cry to that
I´ve never even played DGS but Damn Gregson has an marvelous theme. Definitely in my Top 3 detective themes
Well, now you can! Both games! Go go go! The game is afoot!
I really recommend it, hearing this theme playing for first time when encountering him was surprisingly nice.
HE DIES. TOBIAS GREGSON IS THE VICTIM OF THE FINAL CASE.
@@rohandatta7111 Why do you keep trying to spoil people? Jeez I've seen your comments everywhere here.
Lemme guess, is Bobby Fulbright’s theme on there?
Spoilers
Ah yes, the theme of one of the coolest detectives. Also the theme of the guy dead 3 meters in front of me hidden in the trunk of a guy I thought I could trust in a moment I thought was just harmless fun. Yep no emotional trauma there.
*commemorative photo added as evidence*
Me: what the fuck?
Hold it, Sunshine.
*CAPCOM* - Rival of the Western Localization
I see you in every song by Dai Gyakuten, and always with the same comment. No matter what, I always laugh at your comment
Tbh in this case it is more of a problem with ACD Estate and shitty intelectual property laws
Yeah, I know. (looking at you, Sherlock Holmes)
@@XenithXenaku Actually, wasn't is about someone else? Cus I'm pretty sure Sherlock Holmes is a public domain at this point, with how long it's been. Might be wrong though, so don't quote me on that.
@Landino Cagliostro I bet we'll be rid of COVID-19 by then, but the localization will be nowhere in sight.
*Before you read my comment any further, make sure you've played through both Adventures and Resolve first. Otherwise this'll spoil something major for ya.*
Man...Gregson is the type of character where the more you progress through the game, the more ya can't help but to start enjoying his presence every time you see him. Which made it all the more heartbreaking and a massive jab to the gut to the player when he winds up being the murder victim in the second to last case of Resolve. Doesn't help that I grew to love Gina too as a character so seeing her absolutely depressed as a result of his death was an extra blow to the gut for good measure.
What I found to be the most disturbing part of that whole case was the fact that this man that you grew to get to know throughout the entirety of these two games, was practically right in front of you at the very beginning of the 4th chapter as a deceased corpse inside Jigoku's luggage chest. Hell said luggage is even in the group picture which makes what is meant to be a nice moment at the time, so much more morbid and creepy.
I can't say I was ever that much attached to Gregson myself, but he was definitely a pretty fun character to talk to. His actions by the end are messed up, but it was certainly good to know that before he had passed away unexpectedly, he was planning to get himself back on the right track for Gina's sake.
I can't say he'll ever hold a candle to the dorky modern day Detective in Gumshoe (or Ema for that matter) but he didn't need to cause he was on a whole different level of cool all on his own.
Rest In Peace you Fish n' Chips loving Detective.
May your memory forever live on in your role within the Holmes/Sholmes stories for so many years.
Gregson was my favourite detective after Case 5 of the first game :)
Before that, Fulbirght was my favourite.
Starting to believe I might be cursed.
@@Goomenstein Oh dude I'm so sorry to hear Fullbright was your previous favorite. That has to of really hurt by the end
I keep telling myself "He would've died of age anyway." so I wouldn't cry.That's another detective to add to capcoms basement of characters you'll never see again
The trunk part actually gave me emotional trauma and trust issues. I had never been so horrified with a twist this bad before.
@@juliogomesdesouza9035 literally same...i had to take a short break at the trunk part...
I love how even his song sounds tired they perfectly captured the personality they wanted to give gregson
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It's amazing how important and involved this man became. I should had known it with how melancholic his theme turns.
It's also pretty cool how the song has bits of AA1's Investigation theme
spoilers for GAA2 C5
i hope that i was not the only person who realised that the government secrets that gregson was attempting to keep secret was an assassination plot against him that he was unaware of
...I did not realise that....
oh my god. what the fuck that's so messed up why would you _tell_ me that
Spoilers for DGS2:
In the last case of the first game when the two brothers accused are "pretending" to form a trio with Gregson, was it a foreshadowing that he was really working with criminals in the shadows and not just some silly gimmick?
For those who haven't completed Chronicles (Resolve) yet,
DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS AND REPLIES!
Someone is posting spoilers on the replies and it ruins the experience for everyone.
It's a guy named Rohan Datta. With an OREO profile pic no less. (If this Rohan Datta thinks of changing his profile, think again. You're already recognizeable as the "person who ruins experiences by spoiling", let that sink in.)
So until you absolutely played and finished Resolve, DO NOT READ ANY COMMENTS OR REPLIES!
Good day, and continue jamming to this amazing tune.
Commenting to push this comment up, because seriously this needs to be top comment what the fuck.
@@sponge1234ify Like all this spoiling has to end.
@@leonmystique9372 honestly if somebody gets spoiled because watching comments it's their fault. I always avoid watching comments when I have not finished the game yet.
@@mikapoful It does, and sometimes curiosity get the better of them.
I haven't played Resolve yet, but even if I know the spoilers
I won't even bother ruining everyone's time because they need their experiences.
@@mikapoful still plenty shitty to go out of your way to knowingly spoil the experience for many poeple
For me, this theme says “Get out of the way, the professionals are here”
Spoilers for TGAA2-5:
I ready ended up loving Gregson as a character. He's far from perfect, but you can tell that he was slowly cracking, wanting to be a better person.
While he contributed with an assassin ring, he unironically ended up being the one who helped with putting a stop to Stronghart. He went out of his way to confess that Genshin's case had fake evidence to Kazuma, and if he never did that, Stronghart wouldn't have been defeated. We also saw in the flashback how he's angry at Stronghart for choosing to fabricate evidence.
He also tried to escape from London with Gina, probably being afraid that she becomes the next target for the reaper organisation.
And in case 2-3, he went out of his way to allow Ryonosuke and the rest to investigate the scene of Enoch Drebber hiding place, even though the rules were that only the Forensic Team can investigate that. He even stood up to Dr Sithe, telling her in the face that it was thanks to Ryo and his friends that Enoch's hiding place was discovered thanks to them.
At the end, Gregson was a man doing his job and what he was told, even if it were dark stuff. But he was slowly cracking out of that. And the tragic part is, he died before he ever got the chance to fully change and crack out of all that dark world.
He's a character who practically died mid-redemption. A man who was faited to change, who was showing signs of such change, but die before he could fully do so.
The best part is that his death DOESN'T ruin it.
It's a good example of redemption being cut
Spoilers:
Warden: Brought your dinner. Fish n chips
Jigoku: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
warden walks away with the evilest grin on his face
@@megamike15 ITS SHOLMES
@@Estra_Estra that's so something he'd do
@@riyadh8334 He would do that, no doubt. Than ask if he wants a glass of water with ice.
@@Estra_Estra He would definitely do it.
Pub owners hearing this theme: "Get ready! All the fish and chips we have! It's... Gregson."
Just finished the first game and gregson is my favorite character! Can't wait to see more of him
...Dammit, this aged really wrong.
….I assume you know what happens in DGS2 by now? 😭
This song sounds so bittersweet
The amount of spoilers in the comments worries me a bit. Thankfully this theme helps me forget about said worries, because of how good it is :)
Well to be fair, you should catch up and finish the game before worrying about spoilers. The rule is to never look at a comment section for anything unless you finish the topic.
@@Samstar369 When the spoilers literally are "oh i feel sad about what happens to him in DGS" thats just not acceptable. First of all this theme is also in the first game,so directly talking about anything from the second game that might be big spoilers is a no go right off the bat,and if you do want to talk about it you can at least do a spoiler warning beforehand.
@@Shazam1998 Yeah that anoys me this Morons all over in the Comments destroy the second game for all the People that want to play it this here is the MUSIC from part 1... So Stop Writting stuff that freaking Spoilers part 2
@@Shazam1998 I meand come on did i really needed to know that Something will happen to the inspector IN PART 2 did i had to ?... I just wanted to chill to the music
@@felixleidig8307 Yeah, got that spoiled for me as well. Not the exact thing that happens, but given what series this is I can take a good guess.
It's a great theme, but dang it, I cannot listen to this and not immediately recognize the beginning as the investigation theme of Dual Destinies. (Note: Massive spoilers in replies!)
Or of the original game
@@cometaHavoc thank you, I’ve been wondering what this was based on since I knew I’d heard the general sound before.
HE DIES. TOBIAS GREGSON IS THE VICTIM OF THE FINAL CASE.
@@rohandatta7111 Would you mind taking your spoilers elsewhere?
@@thesaltgod Nope. The beauty of this is that even if you already played the game, someone who hasn't finished it might come along and read this spoiler, effectively ruining major twist for them.
This is the music that plays when your just chilling at home with a snack and somthing to watch
This sounds like a blend between the original Investigation theme and Gumshoe's theme. I like it.
I like how his theme sounds just like an actual investigation theme for the out of court sections.
The best detective in the world ..... love you gregson
Iris Watson: Gregsy, don't forget about your monthly appearance at the Adventures of Herlock Sholmes.
It always killed me how his personality does a 180 when he's told that
HEAVY DGS2 spoilers don't read the tags
Not sure if anyone will get this but when trying to search up for this theme I accidently typed "Tobias Funke". Both men have amazing mustaches after all
Youuuureeee a crook captain hook
after finishing Resolve this song fills me with so many different emotions that it's almost difficult to listen to despite being an absolute banger of a song.
I like to think Iris still includes Gregson in Sherlock's stories, keeping his spirit alive through fiction and all that
This theme caught me off guard the first time I heard it. Was not expecting a remix of Game 1's investigation theme.
i didn't even realize that woah
that just makes me appreciate Gregson and his theme even more
HE DIES. TOBIAS GREGSON IS THE VICTIM OF THE FINAL CASE.
@@rohandatta7111 stop it.
Spoilers for both games
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Goddamnit I miss this thumb. I didn’t expect him to die, I was like WTF THEY ACTUALLY KILLED OFF GREGSON??
Thanks Gregson, you magnificent bastard
I just realised it takes both Tobias GREGSON and Gina LESTRADE to make up the ACTUAL detective in the books Gregson Lestrade. I know it's very obvious but I think it's a cool idea that the responsibility is split between the two.
Isn’t Tobias Gregson a minor character in the Sherlock canon? In any case it helps that Lestrade has only been known as G. Lestrade, so your theory still works.
@@iantaakalla8180 Yes, Tobias Gregson is a minor character in Sherlock Canon. Included Enoch Drebber.
They are separate characters, Lestrade being the more famous.
@@Multienderguy37 If I recall correctly Inspector Lestrade's full name and title is only ever described as Inspector G. Lestrade. With no mention made of what the G. in their name is.
Mate, read the books before you start talking about them.
Just played TGAA2
im crying at the corner with gina right now 😭
me too me too, and that smile during the credits hit me like a rock. And its made worse by the fact that gregson is one of my favorite characters.
@@dontoverthink4766 ikr?? It’s literally caught me off guard so hard that I immidately burst into tears....
SPOILERS
Me: gets to Gregson's death
My parents: We're having fish and chips for lunch today :D
Me: ... :(
I believe this became Gina theme. This plays when Gina decides to keep being a Inspector as a thanks to his Boss.
If you haven't finished both of the DGS games, don't go into any replies in the comment section, there's this Rohan Datta guy with an Oreo profile picture who spoils basically every big twist in the second game.
If you have played through both of the DGS games, I ask that you report any messages he leaves in the future as spam so that he won't spoil anyone here.
I hope this helps.
I did report one yet UA-cam didn't find that as spam like what the hell
My heart! Oh my god this is so beautiful
I beat the game a few weeks ago.... No I feel like crying whenever I hear this
Just a reminder to people that haven't finished the game, stop reading the comments right now on any related content video of this game since there is a person who keeps spoiling the game. Also dont try to open fandom or wikia about this game. All characters in this game have spoilers. I've done that and I regret it instantly.
I’ve had this stuck in my head all damn week, it just goes round and round….
The Great Ace Attorney Duology is so good I hold it in the same regard as the original Ace Attorney Trilogy.
People say Gregson is Gumshoe's ancestor but I'd have to say it's gina
Gina was saved by gragson change my mind.
@@jamesverner9132 no need to do so I agree
Not to mention (DGS 2 MAJOR SPOILERS)
He dead
@@jamesverner9132 i haven't play the second game but didn't he exchanged information to the real killer?
@@lenarratorsocietyofsuperio2731 and I'm sure soilders / police never hurt others.
The important part is he was ordered to by his Job. He didn't do it because he wanted to it was a tarrible misdirection for the true villinuos mastermind.
Lovely weather we're having.
He did nothing wrong tho. I love how caring he was to his apprentice
TGAA2 spoilers, I guess
Yes he did, he did many wrong things and he acknowledged them in the credits. He was doing his best to turn over a new leaf during the scientific invention case though and he was one step away from a new life in France. A shame he was robbed from it, even Sholmes was sad that he couldn't protect Gregson.
Also spoilers:
That only counts as far as his treatment for Gina Lestrade goes. He did not have to make her part of the police force especially since she perjured, but I guess the complex circumstances of the McGilded case (specifically, McGilded’s coercion of Gina) was good enough for Tobias to take her in. Apparently he took great care of her, and I guess because of that Gina was not angry with Tobias for even taking part of etc. For all the faults he had in being a co-orchestrator of the conspiracy he did take good care of Gina when raising her to be an inspector.
Listening to this just makes me feel sad now ;c
Amazing theme for an amazing character.
Long Live Tobias Gregson!
I assume you finished TGAA2? Because if not, someone is gonna spoil something to you in this reply section and your mood will be ruined
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Spoilers for the whole game:
When I rewatch the walkthroughs of the game and reach the part where Ryuu and Su meet Mikotoba and Jigoku, I always want to say “Oh you don’t wanna know what or, to be precise, WHO is in that large trunk…”
Whenever I listen to this theme I wanna eat whatever is in my hand like it’s Tobias’ fish & chips. Usually it is my phone. Phone broke :(
Tobias Chadson
The guy with powers to regrow food with a newspaper and being angry somehow… However he can also put it in his pocket
SPOILERS
This theme is great. Love the theme, feels triumphant whilst serious.
But when it played for the last time, I felt like crying.
gregson munching on fish and chips is getting me hungry! Lol xD
Currently playing TGAA2-4. Haven't forgiven the writers quite yet.
I actually remember this theme most when finish the 1st game =]]]
1 of my favorite detectives on the AA franchise, besides Gumshoe and Jake Marshall.
pain
I can't help but feel that this guy is supposed to be TGAA's version of Gumshoe
Such a good theme
MASSIVE SPOILERS
Was Gregson is the only character in the Ace Attorney who's already well established, interacts with the player and main character a lot, and then suddenly killed off? I don't remember another important character that got murdered...
Mia Fey?
@@usermcskull4713 Hmm, Mia is often channeled though, so I'm not sure lol
MASSIVE SPOILERS
Elise Deauxnim/Misty Fey?
@@ashwinnair3138 Spoiler alert
I don't think we've met Misty before, did we?
Argumenter_Respecter I remember a decent amount of interaction with her at Hazakurain before the murder. It's been over a year since I finished T&T so I'm not really confident now.
GAA2 Spoilers:
He was no Gumshoe, but he was still a great character. Miss the guy.
If I would make an tierlist of detectives in ace attorney games, I would put Gumshoe in S+ and Gregson at S. SPOILER WARNING!!
I miss him, even when he was kind of a criminal....
@@spyro05 He wasnt a criminal ... he thought he was doing the right thing on behalf of that Mael Stronghart asshole.....in the end he planned to do the right ... He wanted to start a new life with Gina
I always forget to not scroll too deep in the comments to avoid spoilers.
same now im depressed
Same, very sad
Dgs2-4 spoilers
I literally cried when Gina announced he was dead, he was my favourite character
Probably one of the best detectives in the whole ace attorney series.
Bro I LOVED THIS MAN’S THEME
BTW don't go deep into comments cuz some rohan guy is spoiling the game.
That dude's an absolute failure of a human being.
Man's life but must be so pathetic if he truly takes joy in ruining a story for others. Such a disappointment.
This reminds me off the " Investigation Opening"-theme from the first Ace Attorney which was later used for other investigation Opening themes
Spoilers
It's funny that Gregson's salary depends on Iris, since she is basically the ancestor of Miles Edgeworth.
wait so then ,spoiler warning,
Van Zieks is edgeworths ancestor
@@andrejcovic3386 yes and at the end of the 2nd game
spoilers
you find out iris is his niece.
SPOILERS
who will succeed the detective's spirit?
You may wanna spoilertag this
might wanna spoiler tag it specifically for dgs2
so many spoiler warmings
might wanna spoilertag it for the spoiler tag
Gina obviously.
In the beginning I wanted to examine the suitcase. It didn’t let me. We literally didn’t even have to get Peppino, Fabien, Venus, or Beppo involved
Not getting them involved though means not revealing Daley Vigil, who was a massive help in the final case, because he was the one who talked about the scarlet ink that Genshin had
Really sounds like there are elements of Gumshoe's theme in here as well.
Just finished TGAA:2
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Decided to have fish and chips in his honour..,
I’m so glad I decided to finish both games before I read the comments on these videos 😅
it's a nice touch gumshoe's theme in mixed into this.
Wait where do you hear Gumshoe's theme in this?
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@@megamike15 Huh...good ear.
...He made me hungry for some good ol English fish and chips.
And I'm not even English.
MASSIVE SPOILERS
I've grown to be very fond of Gregson ever since pondering over his role in the entire game. Among the characters that seem larger than life, he's just so down-to-earth, like a perfect balance, making him such a good minor character.
Even then, it also humanizes him when it's revealed that he's also part of the Reaper. He genuinely believed that what he was doing was for the sake of justice, but you could still tell that his role weighed him down. He wasn't given the full truth, but you just know that if he ever found out about everything, he would have relinquished being part of the Reaper - which is why it was so tragic when he died. If anything, it was also the most masterful use of a character death in the franchise. It wasn't just the shock factor, but a reveal of the most bitter truth: that you are just a disposable in the system you tried so hard to maintain.
Gregson tried his best to uphold justice, but in the end, he was just as much of a perpetrator as he is a victim. That despite seeming like a humble character, he still holds secrets, regrets, and convictions. Still, he wasn't self-righteous at all. He was acting in the best interest of everyone. His moral dubiousness makes him one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise.