Wolfdogs Don't Take Kindly To Harsh Corrections It's Just Never A Good Idea To Even Try
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2022
- Dont use harsh corrections on a wolfdog ever. Don't even think about it. One must have a strong trust bond with their wolf dogs and if you piss them off not only could it hurt you, your wolfdog might not ever forget it. I may actually do a longer video on this topic later on because I have a lot more to say on this topic than I can cram in 60 seconds
- Домашні улюбленці та дикі тварини
"NO BAD WOLF DOG!"
*this betrayal shall not be forgotten peasant*
Why do Anyone get such a Breed?
@@hermelnderhans big floof
@@DemonicDragon6 Than i would prefer leonberger or Berner Sennen Dog. Wolf dog is Not a Fluff!?
@@hermelnderhans nobody asked u
@@556minuteman ? I asked the question sucker
Human: Am I still in charge?
WolfDog: Be careful not to choke on your aspirations
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Imagine the original domesticated wolves. Had to be 10x less agreeable but still listened/performed back then. Maybe it's a lack of men being willing to truly take charge against these animals. I wouldn't put it past them being willing to kill an overly aggressive wolf back then either. But given today's morals and understanding, as well as the price of these dogs, it's understandable why we don't enforce true leadership.
@nervonabliss2071 go and enforce all your manly dominance on a wolf, I'll watch
Love this comment
@@ntrslmgbpass the popcorn. Ooooh what flavour is this, butterscotch?
Harsh corrections imo never work long term with dogs, it makes them more likely to act up and wait for the correction to behave - my wolf dog always responded better to when I let her know she had to listen for a bit, she is always willing to listen and do some stuff because she knows it’ll be done as soon as she does what she needs to do and will get praised for it because she’s the best girl, she LOOOOVES listening to commands of behaving in public because of it ( she also loves seeing people and knows she gets to more if she behaves )
Thanks far watching
Act up 😳
People confuse discipline with aggression, you can discipline without getting aggressive
Yeah
Wow thanks mr morality! You are the best of us!
Huskies are the best practice for that. Rock solid patience builders fr😂
@@dhand34That yeah feels a little hesitant
Like there may be some things you ain’t ever getting them to want to do lol
@@chicken4090 Found the guy that hits his dogs
You: “hey stop that”
Wolf dog: “are you fucking challenging me?”
Yeah, pretty much.
😂😂
Lmfaooooo 🤣🤣
Also wolf-dog: “You are not that guy, pal.”
Pin this shit!
We had an North Atlantic white wolf grace us with his presence for 15 years. He was NOT a dog in any way shape or form. But he was one of the most sweet and loving animals I've ever been with. Rest in peace Max
I believe that those kinds of wolves are precursor to dogs.the first dogs.you take the nicest wolves ,breed them then you eventually get dogs somewhere down the line.the average wolf is a wild animal not to be tamed.
@@janieraltreche1989 Exactly, a pure wolf and even the first few domesticated generations will never completely adjust to domestication, I would bet if you start with pure wolves and selectively breed the nicest of the pack it would take at least a good 5 generations before you got anything less than a straight up wolf, maybe way way more generations, I'm not sure.
Not a dog in any wAy, Sh@Pe or f0rM, said the person speaking about canines. Ok. Or just wanted to sound like some other fucster you heard before thinking those 3 words together sound so classy 😝. Gtfoh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@RRAX Bruh is a wolf a dog to you?
@@RRAX obviously they mean domestic dog
"Any overly harsh correction can be seen as an attack" That's because it is an attack. On a domestic dog or a wolf dog. A domestic dog should be able to trust you as well. If you have to abuse a dog to train it, you're not a trainer, you're a POS.
Agreed but that’s not to say you can’t or shouldn’t correct them at all
You still have to correct them.
That doesn’t mean abusing them, this sounds like someone who refuses to punish their kid no matter what.
So what if the dog ate the neighbor kids face, I’ll sternly yell at him.
Lol dude
They OP isn't arguing against correcting a dog or calling it abuse, they're calling aggressive or harsh corrections those things and they're correct on that front. If you're going to correct an animal, you do so respectfully or patiently. If you've exhausted all other options and have no choice but to get harsh and shout, that is more on the acceptable side. Far too many people aggressively correct their dogs without trying any other options, which is rather abusive.
@nldm561 If a dog ate a kid's face it would be put down. If you need to abuse an animal to correct it you're a lousy trainer. You ever been around wolves? I have. I've also trained aggressive breeds without having to abuse them.
@@ArtemisSilverBowdepends on the situation and the breeds in question. Sometimes you have to be aggressive because otherwise your dog will do something that will hurt someone. It's absolutely not something to rely on and it shouldn't be needed the vast vast majority of the time if ever.
Granted, mileage will also vary depending on what the exact critter is you're dealing with too
Tbh just treat pets with love and respect even if they can't rip you apart. It's the equivalent of someone beating/yelling at/abusing you because you don't understand that they're saying 'come here' in a language you don't speak.
If you believe smacking a dog on the ass abuse then you need to not have kids ... clearly yall don't know the difference between abuse and discipline 💯💯
there is a difference. It's not beating them or abusing them to be dominant and chastising.
people forget dogs are canines and they are HAPPIER when you treat them like canines.
If you understand the way they play with each other, the way they show dominance when they need to, you can have their love AND their respect.
@@Hadrian9707 clearly you’ve never owned massive rottweiler and pit bulls. sometimes you have to fucking slap that nose or slap that ass. those dogs will show dominance over you if you don’t show it first. be smart about it homie. please don’t own big dogs yours will kill little kids!!
@@Hadrian9707 dude imagine calling it abuse whenever when dogs are playing with each other they bite and rip at each others skin as hard as they can. they don’t seem to be in any pain at all. you’re very clearly a young imbecile who is lying about the dogs he’s owned. german shepards are very small “big dogs” by the way. one of the skinniest and most scared dogs.
Um no! You clearly don't know what you're talking about. It all depends on the temperament of the dog. They are not humans. They don't communicate, or think like humans. I own male and female GSD's and a little cockapoo. All of them respond differently to positive and negative reinforcement. The male GSD is super sensitive but has a high drive. Thus he gets mostly positive reinforcement with a dash of negative to remind him when his drive is overwhelming his discipline. The female is mischievous and not sensitive in the least. She gets almost exclusively negative reinforcement. She will not respect you if you do not prove that you are the boss and in command. You have to be an asshole to her. She doesn't take commands from the women in my family because she does not respect them. Fortunately, shes not aggressive to strangers. Its never a okay to be cruel and hit dogs. But, physicality (like turning a dog over) is necessary with some dogs. Its kind of funny, the people who act like dogs should be treated like humans always have the most misbehaved, out of control, and mentally unstable dogs. I live in an area where neighbors relish the opportunity to shoot roaming dogs. An undisciplined dog is a dead dog. All of my dogs are phenomenally disciplined and well adjusted. They are like that because they know damn well that they are not humans and that they are on the absolute bottom rung of the hierarchy.
Sir, you're 100% correct. Wolf dogs never forget and they are not dogs!! They don't handle to correction well. Unless you're going to win the battle. Don't do it
Yeah see my calming exercise vid and other training vids
@@dhand34 wish I had your videos when I owned one a few years ago. I quickly found out that even the hardest of working breeds are nothing compared to a wolf hybrid. After nearly taking a limb off and my possibly ending my life. I'm 240lbs athletic. Never owned a hybrid again.
@@aky19832001 yeah it’s like buying a plane and not taking flying lessons. Backyard breeders will lie to you too
@@dhand34 that's actually what happened to me. You'd think I'd have more sense. But thr breeder invited me over and kept telling me how they're great and how well they were trained. Well he was using a fake low content male German Shephard wolf mix. (Maybe 10%) and the mother was 50%? I later found out he uses another male to breed and sells them off as though their family pets.
@@aky19832001 yeah unfortunately this is a common scam in the wolf dog world. I’ve seen others sell husky GSD mixes as wolves and then the buyer claims his house dog is a wolf.
"He had some noticeable scars on his face. I guess he lost that one"
Arthur Morgan always told John Marston to be less of a dummy
My boy arthur
One more train Arthur
I....had...a plan!!
What was that plan, exactly?
Make a lot of noise, harshly correct my wolfdog and get scarred all to hell!!
Well, the execution was perfect!
at least John's brain grew up after that 🤣
@@jasonalbran376 I read that in Dutch and Arthur's voice
Wolf dog: "You tryna' kill yourself bruh?"
Went to a wolf sanctuary outside Seattle a few years back and met the pups and young adolescents that were raised around humans. Owner commented how strong their memories are and that if they get to a point they don’t trust or like you, they likely never will again. He accidentally stepped on one of the male pups several weeks prior and it completely changed the relationship.
Hell my Aussie/lab mix is near harmless but similar situation. My step dad cornered her and growled when she was a puppy thinking it was funny and she’s never forgotten it 10 years later. She’s hated him ever since. Difference is if he had gotten down to her level and showed her some love to mend the fences I think she might have gotten over it. Wolves? Likely not.
Owner: “sit”
Wolfdog: “no”
Owner: “i respect your decision”
Right
@@dhand34 I shoot wolves, how about that for dominance?🖕
" no food, sleep in the garage"
@@badsanta7356 LMMFAO
@@badsanta7356 That's what a wolfdog would say
You: "Hey! Stop!"
Wolfdog: "I've decided to work _with you._ I will never work _for you."_
Yeah that’s pretty much their attitude. You nailed it
Sick reference bro
@@AsorTrebor what’s the reference from?
@@shanellemurrey9300 I think transformers dark of the moon
Had German shepards my whole life, they were the same. Hit them and they never forgot it, use positive reinforcement and they would do anything for you.
💯 %. I grew up with a German Shepherd and he never liked my Mom because of raising her voice constantly at him.
If she fed him he will not eat the food. My dad, brother and I were the only people that he ate from and that’s because we corrected him with love if there’s such a thing😊
And me as my brother and I used to say yes when daddy said No….of course daddy didn’t know. 😂
He has been gone for thirty something years and I still miss him.😢
@@KeepSmiling447im sorry for your loss brother
Used a shock collar on my dog for not coming when I called her several times. Started with the beep, moved to the vibrate. Nothing phased her. Moved up to the lowest shock setting. I only did it once…Once.
It was about a year for my dog to trust me again. Some have looooong memories, contrary to popular opinion.
I took the time to build up that trust again and it was worth it.
Of you use one, you have to do it just right
@@dhand34There is no right way to use a shock collar 😂 Put it on yourself and see if there is a right way to use it.
@@ES11777 I have. The lowest setting on a $400 Garmin is basically nothing. You use it to communicate not dominate. It allows some of mine to go off leash, where it’s safe.
Human: "I'm in charge"
Dogs: "Yes sir!"
Human: "I'm in charge"
WolfDogs: "Do you feel in charge?"
There one way to be in charge... but i dont want to spend a whole day digging!
Sgodflow are lucky they are off the menu.. traitors.
You sir are a legend
Bane lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Your doggy treats and infrastructure have been important...till now"😷
“My pet alligators appreciate when I’m harsh with them.” - Oopsie McDaisy 1970-2022 RIP
😂😂😂😂
Lol I laughed really hard at that
😂💀👍🏽
🤣🤣
Lmfaololol😂🤣🤦🏾♂️👌🏾
The only wolfdogs you can yell at and not die, are stuffed animals.
Owner: BAD DOG!
Wolfdog: …and I took that personally.
@Franklin Garage holy crap i'm laughing so hard is this a joke?
@Franklin Garage the city has nothing g to do with ot. Man bun yes tho
@@michaelmayers3622 wtf is a man bun?
Franklin Gargage Yeah you keep saying you dominate them but show no proof. keyboard warrior.
@Franklin Garage 🤡
"any harsh correction will be seen as an attack and they wont forget it" mood
I enjoy the mood but you don’t know how to quote someone.
Especially if they get hit by a choke chain I don’t blame them
@@himynameis3138 who cares
Someone should've told my parents this when I was a child.
Let's Replace the phrase "Treat others the way you want to be treated" with this masterful line.
_Friendly Fire will not be tolerated!_
You give respect to all animal's especially when you are training them. Reward with treats and alot of praise and alot of Love.
Owner: HEY! STOP THAT!
Wolfdog: bold of you to assume you can speak to me like that...
Will it be super strong when I shoot it because it decides to live in MY house RENT FREE and treat me like a Walmart dumpster?
This comment was a joke please don't take it seriously 🐺
@@IzzabelleGames2324 lmfao. I reckon it wouldn't be strong at all 😭 and I figured it was a joke. I don't take things on the internet too seriously
@@Mr_NoB0dy20 bro did you even press read more man? And also I'm not taking it seriously it was a joke
My shotgun says you will obey me
Yeah Wolves 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾can be quite Headstrong, Stubborn, Bossy......(as they themselves are Exceedingly hierarchical); treat them like they're your Best Friend In The Whole Known Universe & Don't Boss Them, show them you're gentle & they'll reciprocate that gentleness; plus one should make sure that the Wolf 🐺/Wolf 🐺🐕 Dog 🐶 is more of a lower ranking Wolf/Wolf 🐺🐕 Dog that doesn't mind you being their gentle leader❤
“And you guessed it. He lost that one.” Love it lol
He's talking about John Marston from RDR, right?
I think he meant the dog was put to sleep...
@Mite Take you're welcome, bro
Happy Easter 👍🏻
I swear it feels the same way with my Mali. She wants sweet love and correction and reacts very poorly to physicality. I’ve had her since a pup
the best thing to remember: with wolfdogs, you are adopted by the pack. you are not the alpha, youre a new member, and you need to accept that to gain their trust.
When I worked with pure wolves, if I moved too fast, they never came near me again... Wolves NEVER forget
yeah true,
I wish dogs were also the same. I've seen too many dogs being too forgiving of the bad behaviour of their humans.
Curious, what does moving fast mean? It's appears agressive or anxious to them?
@@fuzzyfennec7493 They most likely meant that they made a sudden movement and the wolf took it as a threat causing the wolf to become weary of them and due to the fact that wolves would rather not confront humans especially when it comes to fighting mostly absolutely have to the wolves decided to avoid them please correct me if I’m wrong on this by the way
them wolves was like "nahhh you a opp now" lol
I remember when I was 7 stumbling across a box on the side of the road it had two pups inside of it both being wolf pups my dad and mom didn’t want me to keep them so I did chores every night after school to be able to feed them had them both close to 19 years R.I.P Star R.I.P Jade 🙏 🙏
Well done! You showed great responsibility for a child that young. When was that? R.I.P to your wolf companions.
Good man!
those names are epic
Kool ❣️
I'm glad you got to keep them .
You damn straight, you can’t hit them they will never forget!😮
When wolf dogs growl or snap at you aggressively and not playfully they’re not just doing it to hurt you, they’re telling you something because they don’t have the words to express themselves otherwise. Don’t punish them LISTEN to them.
Exactly, you win comment of the month. Thanks for posting
This dude says “ther woof dawgs”
WOOF dawg
He’s from the south. It’s how we talk sometimes
@@TheArchighves sweet home Alabama
They also say "warshin" machine", "laundry-mat", and "light bub"
@@ragnaroksangel is….. is it not supposed to be laundry mat?
Human: But... I have provided you with all the food and shelter!!!
Wolfdog: slowly places paw on shoulder... _...and this gives you power over me?_
@Lord of Dragons
Wolf Dog: _Peace has cost you your strength. _*_Victory has defeated you_*
Nah, a heavy stick still beats any dog.
Bro🤦♂️ the only reason wolfdogs listen in the first place is because you give them food and shelter💀
@@youcantstopme1411 and that's how stupid people die....
@@alikos88 Wolf Dog: When your bank account, spent on my food, is ashes, then you have my permission to die.
Never hit ur dog or wolf dog, and pets in general 🤦🏽♀️ it’s just common sense, instead correct them in a way they can comprehend.
We had a wolf dog in our family and it loved to put your throat in it's mouth. Pretty scary the first few times but after 8 years she never bit in any way. It was just a thing she liked to do. She got a nasal cancer and sadly didn't make it past 8. I can only imagine her brain "You may feed and house me human, but you are mine, I'm not yours!" 🤣
What ?! Why would you let it put its throat in your mouth? That's just stupid
We had a Wolf Hybrid that we had since she was a puppy. Sheba was amazing and so loved our daughter so much. She did kill a neighbor’s chicken and we paid for the chicken. Never had a problem after that because we acted disappointed and it bothered her. She was such a pleaser.
My Pomarian absolutely devoured my neighbors chickens and one duck, thought Im not sure where the duck came from. 😅 she was like a werewolf, cute and cuddly during the day, but when night falls she was a beast out on the hunt. 🤕
@@markgonsalves pomeranian?
@@markgonsalves lol wow. I’m pretty sure pigeons laugh at my chihuahua.
@@myselfidontagreewithyourse6306 pomeranians used to be sled pulling dogs, they used to be way bigger but they’ve been bred to be smaller recently
So I'm moving to a very large piece of land alone and ppl say I should get a dog. I have NEVER had a pet. Would you recommend a wolf dog or hybrid?
Have to gain the trust of northern breeds also... They are alot like the hybrid. Dobies are the same and so are other working dogs.
Yeah I got a husky malamute mix named Dobro who thinks he’s a wolf
Chows, pomeranians, italian volpinos, eskimos, akitas, Himalayan shepherds and samoyeds work the same way as well. I grew up close to such dogs, particularly, chows, pomeranians, and italian volpinos. I suspect that most "primary" breeds (the ancient ones) have this behavior. Also, all of these breeds were born as working dogs.
@@dhand34 honestly I think this might apply to a lot of breeds. Perhaps unlike yours they can be dominated but they never forget.
@@dhand34 loved this clip , the guy talking made me laugh idk if it's u or not ? and I actually didn't know that, ...it does make a lot of sense though.
@@dhand34 I guess ? I gotta write this twice , .....all canines although not as wild as cats , they still have it in them, so therefore technically speaking ...,all dogs feel as if they are indeed a 🐺 deep down lol!
Positive reinforcement wins every time.
Animals respond to kindness so much better than cruelty. If you abuse them, you deserve it!!
Yeah
Such beautiful animals
Thanks for watching
Yes, they are beautiful creatures & deserve to be respected!
Don't forget to respect people too
Not many people around worth respecting far and few between however anybody that is an ambassador for these animals is well worth my respect
Owner: “NO, BAD!”
Wolf dog: “so you have chosen death…”
@Leviathan thats jus u bud lol
@Leviathan My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
@Leviathan who hurt you? Show me on the doll where they touched you
😂😂😂
@Leviathan well what did we learn about anticipating anything from strangers who don't owe us shyt?
Was it that they dont owe you shyt?
Doggies: yes master
Floof dogs: *Submit or perish* !!!
Tbh I see this with my German shepherd too, he doesn’t back down so you have to make him calm his nerves down! Make him feel safe and loved, he responds very well
But don’t pet him to calm him down. Petting is rewarding whatever mindset they currently have. Petting does not get them out of an excited mindset into a calm one
@@Koleton4385 Yes, that is true, I usually have to act a little tough to show him he's in the wrong, he gets it and stops acting crazy! Glad it works every time, just have to keep training him to keep him on his toes haha
Is this about wolfdogs or my wife
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes
Classic
Nooo brooo, noooo 😭
Me: sit, stay, roll over
Wolf dog: ……..that’s hate speech
Bottom line, respect animals, people and the world around you, especially creatures of this caliber, size and beauty
yea
@@dhand34 yeah
@The_Meekling69It depends on the breed, others are easier to manage while some are harder to do in being one. It also depends on how you approach *being* the alpha, what you mean by *being the alpha,* what actions you do or take as well as the environment you or they are put in. Respecting and understanding one another is key, it all depends on how you describe respect and setting limits or boundaries
Bottom Line: Don't keep animals that can wreck you.
@@chrismedina54 Any animal can wreck you but it's ALL about how the handler, person or owner(s) handles their animal(s) or the animal(s). Don't blame the animals, the owners or handlers are to blame for training or approaching them wrongfully, not taking care of them or training them at all or properly
I would never attempt to over correct a wolf dog unless I was prepared to fight till the death... edit... my death.
Beautiful. I love love wolf's.....
Me too
"And you guessed it, he lost that one."
You'd be surprised how many people need to be reminded that an animal that size will mess a human up every time no matter what.
An AK malamute would have effed him up even more
@@dhand34
If you're weak and/or scared of even the slightest injuries, sure. Adult human male can take on a wolf and win
Not when armed with a baseball bat my friend, I've hit a wild strays and wild creatures that thought they were too dog and know they understand man is on top.
@@leggonarm9835 you sound like an animal abuser. Do the wife and kids get the bat too? Asking for a friend who’s a social worker
@@steelbear2063 yeah you can whack em with your keyboard. Gamers beat up wolves all the time too
"I tried with a rotweiller" Well this aint a rottweiller is it?
🙄 It’s still a dog.
@@GazB85 different breeds have different temperments and needs
@@meganvincent5381 I know that but their body language and behaviour is similar.
@@GazB85 domesticated and tamed are very different i would guess
@Crispy Batman many rottys are rank aggressive. Could be wrong but I'd assume it's highly prevalent as a trait in wolfs, wolfdogs etc.
Wolf dog: “Do you feel in charge?”
You shouldn’t be tough on rotties either because they’re growling happy growls all the while
The same method goes a long way with those "doggy dogs" as well. Treating them harshly may make them obey out of fear, but that isn't the way to train any animal, let alone the one we claim as our best friend
It's called being a alpha that's how you controll big dogs especially if they are in a pack punishing a dog when it's in the wrong is the best thing to do just as you would a child
Ps. This only applies if the dog is doing something bad or is in the wrong please love your dogs guys as you would your child
You don't want to set the example of violence with any dog - you want to have them trust you and any physical harm will wreck that.
@@ezpeasy3967
What's harsh treatment in your book? Are you referring to shouting an order, or physically hurting the dog? Just wondering, because I'd never had a dog that needed more than a poke to the scruff and a verbal order to stop being rough with the pack
@@josedorsaith5261 verbal order and perhaps if need be a slap on the nose
A pitbull can be a big baby as long as you treat them nicely.
To be fair, that also applies to most normal dogs, pets or even children. Building trust and not relying on physical punishment is never a bad thing.
Right
So true. People punish their dogs hard and take them very hard which isn’t right, they won’t actually listen when you’re mad either
This applies to sentient beings
@Me Neither
I 100% agree that trust is vital in a relationship is vital, but part of trust is trusting that your human will follow through on the consequences of your actions: this applies to both reward and punishment. If your dog doesn't trust that you'll reward it for it efforts, it probably won't bother to sit when you ask. And If they don't trust that you'll put them in a time out, they'll continue to play too rough regardless of what you say.
I'd say punishment definitely has its place in healthy relationships, especially when it comes to setting boundaries. You shouldn't tolerate dangerous behaviour from anyone whether they are your dog, friend, coworker or child. The difference between correction and abuse is applying the principle of "as much force as necessary, as little as possible". Your goal is to communicate and teach, not to cause suffering. Excessive force is obviously uneccesary and inhumane, but if you apply less than adequate force for a point to be made then you just caused discomfort without good reason. No one learned anything helpful, so you would be better off not using force at all unless you can commit to doing what needs to be done. Maybe it can be compared to ripping off of a bandaid? It hurts, but ripping it off serves a purpose, unless you can't commit and pull on it so slowly and softly so that you only get the pain and none of the benefit. The best case scenario is ripping it off quickly, and if you can't do that yourself, find someone to help you and then suffering can be minimized :). And if you never take that bandaid off, you run the risk of infection or poor healing.
Positive reinforcement is really good for teaching skills and I would recommend it for everyone, but when it comes to discouraging certain behaviours, like walking onto roads without permission, it isn't optimal. Positive punishment is super reliable which is what you want when you're teaching your dog something potentially life-saving. You also don't have to use painful force: a squirt bottle is a great tool to use which is unpleasant and will also discourage dangerous behaviour but has pretty much no risk to anyone involved (you can dilute a tiny bit of vinegar to make it taste bad if your dog likes to 'eat' the water, or there are always other options). Even if a cat runs across the road, I know my dog won't chase it and potentially get hit by a car, because i put in the hours to stand there with her on a leash and give her a squirt everytime she stepped onto the road without permission. When she consciously made the choice to not step on the road, there was SO much reward involved. But my main point here is that I disagree with the notion that no punishment should be involved in the training of any dog. It's valuable and has its place as long as you know how to use it constructively. (to be fair you never claimed otherwise in your original comment, i guess I'm more so arguing punishment is a part of building trust and you shouldn't aim to never use it, more so learn to use it appropriately).
Anyway I'm not here to give anyone dog training advice or preach from my high horse, just sharing my opinion to add to the conversation. Let me know if you have any questions :)
@@Uchiha.Itachii yeah that's true! I also know some dogs that don't respond to cues unless they're said in a high excited voice too, which is why the people i studied under when doing my cert in dog behaviour/training told us to either commit to always using the same inflection or practice using multiple inflections when training dogs so that they could connect the dots and recognise that "huh, this is actually the same word, and I still get a treat if i do the thing! it just sounds a bit different this time".
Also, in regards to the older stale way of dog training, I have connections with people who have worked in the K-9 training industry for 40+ years (including actual police/military dogs and the recreational competition style K9 training) and apparently things are the best they've been in years because the 'tough guy' trainers are more open to reward based training now (there was a fear in the past of dogs being reliant on rewards which is why they didn't like to use them). These days the dogs are so happy and clearly love what they're doing. You can actually see it if you go back and watch filmed IGP from the 80's vs now. They always had the capacity to love the work, but dogs are naturally predators and would rather work towards a goal rather than work to avoid those big guys screaming and being all rough.
Ive owned many dogs in my life. Never have i hit one. They are amazing dogs.
I think a lot people like to hit their dogs because it makes them feel powerful
Yeah it makes them feel tough and they are scared to go into boxing or MMA.
My parents owned a full breed Tundra wolf in the 90s. My dad could not bond with it because it didn't trust him. He said it was untrainable. He was a k9 trainer in the military. He said it was vicous and he wanted to donate it to a zoo. At age 14, I went in the cage and bonded with the wolf almost immediately. My mom said it was because the wolf heard my dad yelling at me and then he yelled at the wolf. It saw us as both being victims so it trusted me, over him. I was able to do everything with him, I still miss him today, he was really scary looking, almost solid black and was around 200lbs. The first time he got out, it was defending me against a 150lb Rottweiler. It actually killed the dog. I had severe bites on my legs and arms and the local police tried to tase my wolf. They found out that the hair was too thick and my mom was able to get him back in the house and in his pen in the backyard. He was a gift from a well known nature photographer who found him as a pup and had been attacked by another wolf and his pack had been killed off.
Interesting
"Bad dog!!"
Wolf dog to pups : "And this is how I met your dinner"
that made me chuckle
😂😂😂
Lol
Underrated comment
I don’t get it 😅
Idk about wolf dogs, but we have some AC shepherds(white shepherds) and they are extremely friendly and want to take part in everything, but at the same time are extremely sensitive. Eg, I was making pizza and the oven has an inbuilt bell/timer. One time I must have been too rude with the poor doggie, we had to teach her that the bell and getting lectured have nothing to do with each other. If my voice sounds stressed they even don't listen when called... Dogs can be complicated.
A lot of people don't realize how sensitive GSD's can be. Thats why they are so awesome. A good one is just so in tune with their owner. I barely even use words with my male at this point. I just grunt and he interprets it and does what I want.
My cousin has four with dogs ❤ their the sweetest! And they are so dramatic 😂 lol
I’ll say this now. If you beat your dogs for not listening to you… you are the lowest level of human existence.
the dude that said trained rotties ain even training them right either too lmaoo
you're not supposed to give a negative response to behavior you don't want to see, the correct way is just to give them no reaction at all. makes them less frustrated and overall more responsive
The wolf dog was merely correcting the human, and the human learnt his lesson
Well when he says "he lost that one" he probably meant the wolf dog. He had to put it down. Humans win vs any k9 ever because we have guns. Shit if I have a belt I can choke any animal really. Humans figure it out. I have no interest in owning a wild animal but I will fuck it up if need be
What is the psychology behind owning animals like this? What are the legal risks for having animals that are this wild around other people?
Something egotistical and stupid is going on here.
@@vexial97 This This is why I hate humans as a species.
We're animals we just happenend to evolve to the top. We do something to antagonize a animal and you are surprised it attacks? Then we punish it for doing exactly what we would have done. We are slowly killing this planet everything that was truly Beautiful in nature will be gone soon. Eventually alot of species will be extinct due to rapid expansion and toxins.
I honestly give humans less than 200 years to evolve to a space race, that's being generous. before a dinosaur like extinction event that earth will recover from in a few million years long after us.
@@Kurruptedwolf That animal will attack me if it's hungry. Like I said, I have no interest owning one of these animals but if it tries to hurt me, I will fuck it up. You went on a rant that no one was talking about.
@@vexial97 I think you mean “the human race” will win. I dare you to take your belt and go tan the hide of those wolf dogs in the video. They will probably find your skeleton picked clean a week later. After your found then people maybe go hunt down the dogs. So humans as a whole are more powerful. But in a 1v1 fight? Most predatory animals of a comparative size with kill the shit of of any human. Even a small chimp is like 4-6 times stronger than a human
I once looked at our cat the wrong way, our relationship has never been the same.
If you think raising a hand on a dog or a wolf is a good idea, you don’t deserve to own either of them.
Wolfdog was like Bane.. "Do you FEEL in charge?.."
My family had a wolf dog in Bolivia and he would let me and my brother use him as a pillow when we were babies. He was sweet and gentle to us and even now, almost 20 years later we miss him. RIP Bakir 💕🕊️
Not all family members are related🫀
I raise and train wolfdogs, mine live indoors 24/7 and I never have any issues with them...I think it's all in how you raise them and the expectations you have
Sounds like a great companion, nope family
@@Shadgrizz He really was. He had huge paws and teeth but was always soft with us. When I learning to walk he would be by my side and let me use his to balance myself (we have it on film lol). A true gentle giant.
I hope bakir was the dog and not your brother
That white 1 with the missing eye looks so badass.
Punished venom wolf snake
@@RacistCeilingBird I'm pretty sure that DD is a wolf dog.
@@Killicon93 I thought I remember hearing ocelot say he was part dingo or something. Maybe part dingo part wolf dog. Either or DD is a force to be reckoned with
More like wolf dogs just don’t respond well to abusive owners.. lol 💯👌🏼 “pain compliance”
No they don’t like abuse
As someone once said:
The way you bring up your wolf dog determines how they react. Keeping them in a large enclosure wont make them "tame" like they would be when you keep them at home and treat them like a normal dog.
I saw a fella slap a mare in the face a few days ago, about 0.4 seconds later he just fell over limp, full-on flopped over like a pancake on some GTA IV euphoria physics type shit.
Lol, you do not mess with half a ton of muscle mounted on 4 powerful legs with hard hooves. You'd think people would figure that out without trying it out first...
@@juliee593 no you got it wrong he just has an ugly wife
@@oatmeal710 😂😂
A horse threw me a good 10' in the air
I apologized
Not the smart thing to do. Horses can be incredibly dangerous. You get hit in the head with one of their hooves and there’s a good chance you’ll be either severely messed up or dead.
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Is that pikes peak?!
Yeah
*wolf dog will remember that*
.... Erm that's horrible, surely no animal should be hit with a choke chain.
No and that guy paid the price
Depends on what the animals trying to do to you but yeah no animal should be hit with anything for any reason unless it's to keep them from harming someone or something else but a dog or any other animal that tries to harm me or my animals is going to get a whole lot more than a smack with a chain weakness breeds weakness there's enough weak people in the world already
@@dhand34 he fucked around and found out
Idiot with that choke chain, makes my blood boil
@@Jamie77ize
He learned his lesson, has a permanent reminder, and is more humble for the experience. Leave it be.
They’re so cute, I love when they shake their heads and their ears slightly flop 😭❤️🔥
I'm sorry, but if a grown man gets overpowered by any dog, even a wolf, then he should reevaluate his status as a man.
LOL go watch a wolf pull down a bison or elk on an actual nature documentary. Video games aren’t real life. Also watch training vids on police dogs with no wolf
*wolfdog will remember that*
I'm so glad I saw this. I was just about to try yelling at my wolf dog tomorrow.
Better to use vocalisations than actions (like wolves do, they growl and snarl as a warning). Be stern but never use physical force unless it's necessary (which it rarely is)
Edit: I did mean speaking and tone of voice by the term vocalisations. Also I agree with the people who have pointed out body language is also a factor as well.
Exactly. No need to be violent, just vocal and stern.
Depends if it's a younging and how close you are with the older group, if you do that without their permission they will do it to you and be distant with you. They are family group packs, everyone human and/or wolfdog have a role. No role, no respect, and no way of being part of the group.
Right ye.
Physical force even then is pretty much only control and grappling, either for things that aren’t really that crazy (trying to move them out of a a door or something), or are understood as emergency situations (pulling them away from a fight).
There's more body language than physical assault and vocals. You don't actually need either one to be respected and obeyed.
@@littlepsycopopmaryith8618 like you're a fucking expert. You just wanna argue.
What in the world is a “Wott Wyler”?!
“Bad puppy, don’t eat the furniture!”
*Wolfdog will remember that.*
You shouldn't hit dogs either just because they won't fight back. The only reason you should ever hit an animal is if it attacks first.
Right
Yep. My folks have a female. She's not an alpha but she still found ways of challenging the pecking order.
One time when I was tying my shoe she did challenge me by attempting a "head-bite" to challenge me when she was an adolescent but she got me hard in the side of my face.
Like any wolf pack, I did a sudden take-down that wrested her off her feet and put her down under me on her back. She yelped in submission and understood then I was the dominant in the "pack". She never tried that again.
However I understand part of how she communicates is with nips and nuzzles. If you're a guest she won't allow you to walk in front of her so she will hold onto your shirt until you stop and she goes in front of you or if you violate that order she'll nip your buttox.
It's funny when we had guests staying or a roommate. She'll take off and take your legs out from behind you out in the woods if you happen to be in her way. Or if you bring in food from outside and don't close the door, she'll steal it.
One particular roommate had a tendency to leave the door open and slept in until noon, and when I had to bathe her one morning cuz she rolled in something nasty, I dried her most the way and sprayed dog cologne on her, so she took off to the roommate's room, jumped up on his bed while he was still sleeping, and "dried" herself off the rest of the way by rolling on him and his comforter. 😆
She's old now and moved far away with my folks but still wags her tail at my voice on the phone.
@@GTA2SWcity man. You should not own a dog, ever.
@@user-nl8xo2xq4w The point was to not overdo it. Animals are hierarchal in their social structures. You are either dominant or submissive, there's no equal.
@@GTA2SWcity no. The "alpha" bullshit with dogs/wolves was disproven years ago. Do some research.
If you wouldn't do it to a child, you shouldn't do it to a dog either.
You have an animal that depends on you and trusts you. Respect that, don't abuse the trust by living out power fantasies and venting your frustration on the dog.
Reward good behavior, reprimand verbally and leave the room to correct bad behavior.
The dog will understand what you want from it.
People like you should have a bigger guy do all the things they did to their dog done to themselves. See how you like it.
He hit the dog with a chain and was surprised he almost got his face bitten off 🤔
He did say the dude was drunk, wasn't thinking straight at the time. Probably wasn't all too surprised about the consequences
At what point was surprise mentioned?
@@KingSolidTails deserved what he got
When ur drunk , they tested scientists , u are aware of what ur doing. U just don't care. And u have to be responsible and not get drunk to that point
@@KingSolidTails if you’re stupid and immature enough to drink until you’re drunk, you deserve every consequence that comes your way.
House cats are the same way
Yeah true
And now Whos Boss
I remember the second season of altered carbon: He was what? Dog genes? No Wolf gens, you know the difference between a wolf and a dog? You hit a Dog, and he will crawl back to you and love you. You hit a Wolf, and he will tear your face off. It was a very interesting way to introduce the badass scene that came afterwards.
A Doberman ain't gonna crawl back.
@@JoeR203 wanna bet?
@@forallthatisunreal yes I do. Start hitting a doberman and see what happens to you.
Wrong. You don’t inflict pain on any dog unless you want it to fear and hate you
@@fataldreidel5846 yeah that's his point, if you treat a wolfdog badly they usually (depends on the % a bit of course) don't fear messing with you, they'll show you that they deserve respect too.
"If you kick a dog, it'll crawl back, lick your foot, begging for forgiveness. Kick a wolf... and he'll rip your face off."
-Ivan Carrera, Altered Carbon Season 2 Episode 2
God damn right
Or you could just... not abuse animals???
Yeah, dogs won't act that way if you kick them most of the time, they'll actually start acting out in whatever way their personality acts out. My dog for example, if you disrespect him he'll straight up ignore you and run off and do whatever he wants. But when I treat him with respect he follows me in whatever way I am him to, because dogs mentality is all about respect and loyalty to whoever meets the most needs for the pack.
If you kick a dog it won't respect you and will try to avoid you to the point of running away. Or, depending of the dog, it will attack you.
These aren’t wolves dipshit
Lay hand on af Belgian Sheppard and it will take charge and ignore you for the rest of its days. Be vocal and show it how you feel and its you bff.
They are beautiful creatures just look at them
Thanks for watching
Anybody that whips an animal with a metal chain deserves a few scars.
Stop being a pansy.
Mother wonders literally bite the shit out of their puppy's faces when they're annoying them
Deserves worse imo
On god
It depends what the animal did. Same with a female a human. Depends what they did to deserve the whipping.
I'd whip anyone with a chain in there stupid face if they hit an animal with said chain.... ☺️🪓
Had a wolf/ Shepherd and she was nothing to mess with. She was very loyal and loving but she didn't take kindly to strangers and she was very protective.
damn that dog must have been huge with that mix
@@crillz9660 She was about 75 pounds and nothing to mess with.
Same here. I had female timberwolf/shepherd as a teenager. Really smart and protective but quick tempered and hated kids
@@perryisrael8754 Mine hated most men. Almost killed my step dad a couple times.
@Kimisu Well females usually are a bit smaller than males but she was definitely big enough!
"come down hard" when a dog is communicating with you sounds an awful lot like animal abuse.
You: I won’t allow any disrespect
Wolf: *DEATH TO THE MPLA!*
The gold old “I knew a guy” lol.
Bs everytime without fail
@@niqvuk definitely bullshit..all of it
You know I knew this guy once, got chased by a cow when he was a kid and it broke his leg. Cows man, they’re deadlier than they look I’m telling ya
@@killerkitten7534 I've been chased down the street by a bunch of buffalos once as a kid so I believe ya
@@niqvuk Crazy concept, but hear me out, ppl sometimes actually know other ppl!
So… basically: that is life in your animal crossing town. Gotta build your trust… or you'll get attack by bears, wolves, etc.
Harsh corrections never work. I learned that when helping with neighbors with their dogs. They either refuse or might take it as a threat.
I never use it but now if I feel like they might do something stupid I just give a warning in my voice.
Wolf dogs are much different but they will learn if they get into things and when you learn to respect them fully they will respect you on a difficult level (I believe) as you earned their trust. Yelling never helps but I don’t know about a stern calming voice does anything.
Any other species of dogs listens to tones and I think wolf dogs do too and any harshness in your tone probably won’t do you any good. I’m not an expert each breed of dogs are different and wolf dogs react and listen differently but one thing is to show that you mean good for them and be respectful and use a calm tone. (🤷🏽♀️)
good comment
We need to repatriate every single illegal in the country. Wages and profits would rise 2x in a week.
No one should ever “come down hard” on any other, unless for safety.
Try telling that to the bear that almost ate me last week.
@@dirtdiv3r that sounds like it falls in the “for safety” category
@@frostyskeletons8950 Lmaoooooo
seems like at least someone was able to read
I don’t think “come down hard” in this context means something as far as beating, just harsher corrections, like swatting across the nose
@@dylancarter9290 bruh the guy in the video uses someone hitting a dog with a choke chain as an example...
Ive never liked that "coming down hard" mindset. Just because it works on weaker animals doesn't mean it's a good idea. I get a lot more cooperation out of animals when I treat them with respect, even wild animals.
True. Some people, for some reason, will not try to put themselves in the animal's position to try and understand them, even though it takes you so much further and it's so much easier than punishing them until they somehow figure out what you want them to do. I guess there are people like that who just don't have the intuition and the tact necessary to treat animals properly. It's weird.
@@juliee593 a lot of people who have pets really shouldn’t even own them because they don’t have the patience for or they neglect/abuse them and it always makes me wonder why adopt an animal if you aren’t gonna treat them properly, they might be a small part of your world but to them you’re their whole world
What do you mean by coming down hard though? Is it a simple nose bop? A harsh tone when a dog is bad?
And some things like pushing dogs to the ground and staying above them to show dominance is perfectly normal and even healthy. Dogs rely on a pack priented system, there is no even playing field with a dog either you're the leader or it is.
With that said just wailing on your dog is an awful thing to do that in 99% of scenarios is unjustified
@@Vaultyboi22 essentially any corrective act that isn't followed up with a comforting act to show you essentially still love them even after they made the mistake.
My brothers dog used to bark at me all the time, I ended up yelling very forcefully to stop and the dog whimpered and walked away, I immediately went up and showed him love and he never barked at me again and was seemingly happy to see me when I came over.
Maybe it was just this one dog, but that's basically what I mean.
@@Ormagoden94 can I try it on you first?
how do you "maintain trust" with them?
what's the most helpful way you correct them when they snap, etc?
A quick firm and hard no