If anyone has created a Mega Maker level and wants me to play it, feel free to leave me the ID in a comment here, I'll play as many of them as possible during the next couple of days. And maybe someone else wants to give them a try as well! (:
Hey Ceave! So glad you made a video on this! Here's my best level ID: 29386. It's called Snowball Fight, where the player can only deflect enemy bullets. I won't spoil any more, and I'd be really glad if you checked it out!
This doesn't have to do with mega maker but I have an idea for a timer in super Mario maker and I think it will show you a mechanic you have never heard of. here it is. It is a chain chomp timer. in the super mario bros 3 game theme if a chain chomp lunges at you I think 36 time it will suddenly break from its post. This timer only works in the super mario bros 3 game theme. It is a very long timer. Place a mega chain chomp between two p-switches and after about 36 lunges he will get to the exit door. Here is an idea with this timer. Oh it looks like mario found himself trapped on a platform on a track in a small room that keeps going left to right. This would have been a very fun time for mario if it wasn't for the two piranha plants on tracks as small as you can make them with one on the left and one on the right but thankfully after a while this mega chain chomp decides he doesn't want to be held captive on a post anymore allowing mario to escape this nightmare.
After 1.1, Mega Maker was renamed to Mega Man Maker to avoid confusion with others that were named same as the game. And as of 1.7.5 which is the current stable version, there were a lot of features and updates had been added ever since this video came out.
Honest opinion: This game blows Mario Maker at the water. I mean, Look at 1.8. This has more than 20 bosses, 40 weapons, and 40 gimmicks/enemies! It is insane.
There actually exists a Zelda Maker (more or less). Its still in development but it still looks amazing! For anyone wondering the name of it is Runiya and is developed by Dream Mix(also their youtube channel name). I highly suggest taking a look into it if you're interested. Also a great day!
A gigantic Metroidvania Mega Man map was made, and it's called Protovania. The issue, though, is whatever engine MMM is using is not designed to handle such enormous stages, and so the framerate absolutely chugs.
I don't regret having installed the game. I first knew about it in your videos and I decided to install it. I made an incredible level using a lot of weapon capsules. the level is called "Puzzle Castle - Easy map". if you want to play it, I'll upload it soon!
"Final Fantasy Maker" so you mean RPG Maker "Wario Ware Maker" So you mean Wario Ware DIY (though I do agree we need a better way to make wario ware stuff that game isnt good enough)
A bit unrelated, but for the end segment, to be honest I'd prefer a Wario _Land_ maker more than a Wario _Ware_ maker since WarioWare DIY already exists. That and Wario Land Maker would kinda work better as a maker since it is a platformer instead of a minigame collection. It would also be cool for fans of the Wario Land series since there hasn't been a game in that series for years. But still, overall, nice video.
Just yesterday I remembered this game existed, and I had a lot of fun replaying my old favorite levels. Then I remembered this video was where I first found out about Megaman Maker. I gotta make more levels if it's still relatively alive!
What's next? Sonic maker? Donkey Kong maker? More makers isn't a bad thing though. I bet we've all played a game and thought, 'I wish I could design a level for this game.' Maker games give us this possibility. Plus they are really creative and imaginative. And being creative and imaginative is fun.
Okay, here are my views on each point 1. I do like the weapons in general, and some are really cool, but I also feel that all of the options actually bar creativity in a way. In Mario maker, there are fewer options, meaning that makers have to get creative and use elements in completely unintended and original ways. This originality that I so love is far less common and less amazing when options are just there. This may just be my puzzle-oriented brain talking, but I really prefer having to come up with original ideas with the things that are available. 2. There really is nothing to criticize about more freedom, and Mario maker could certainly benefit from this as well. 3. More freedom of theme would certainly be used well by Mario maker, and a good designer could likely sculpt a masterpiece with these tools. This would make level design a tad trickier, as certain elements just don't go together, but with a competent creator, freedom would only be a good thing. 4. The health bar is a tricky one, as Mario and mega man are two very different things, but health works well in mega man's world of bullets and fast enemies, just as power ups work in Mario's more platforming-centric universe. Mario maker and Mega maker are two very different games, and to compare them would be grossly inaccurate. Mega maker is a brilliant game, especially for free, and these are just my opinions so don't get caught up over it. Feel free to discuss further and I hope that I've given you something interesting to consider.
I only wish Mario Maker gave us more items and elements to work with, like Mega Maker. There are so many classic power-ups and enemies that could've been used. I'm tired of the same 'castle-theme SMW Bowser fight' Imagine if we got some new bosses, like the Koopalings, Boom Boom, or Kamek. And new world types, including Jungle, Ice, Beach etc.
DreamBigPig ` comparing them is perfectly fair, Mario Maker could be so much better. When some random joe can do better than a mainstream billion dollar company there is a problen
Well you see thing is you could still use what you have in new and creative ways you have more options sure,that allows even more creativity with every option
health works in mario's universe, too. look at super mario galaxy and super mario galaxy 2 and super mario odyssey and super mario 64. and super mario sunshine,even.
1. I agree with you . 2. Usually Mega Man Stages have different lengths . Some are 20 squares , some are 25 squares . While Almost all 2D Mario stages are of same length . 3. Mario's physics changes in different styles and different themes, however mega man's physics are same in different games and themes . 4. This is because every Mega Man maker stage is virtually the same while in Mario maker every stage has a unique taste to it . Also , on average Mega Man games are harder than Mario games .
The names of the weapons you mentioned are: "Charge Kick, Top Spin, Skull Barrier, Nado (inspired from Meta Knight in SSB), Shine (inspired from Fox in SSB), Rush Coil, Rush Jet, Flash Stopper, Gravity Hold"
I'm totally going to make a sprawling Metroidvania map when weapon containers get added. Thank you for covering this wonderful fan project on your channel. Mega Maker is a great example of a more free level creator and I would love to see some of your Mario Maker following check it out.
best part is it's still being updated un like the Mario maker games game has so much more stuff now AND it's willy challenge works great unlike Mario makers endless mode or 100 life mode.....like truth be told capcom really should be proud of the fanbase.
It's called unitale/create your frisk. if you still care. though a quick warning. the people on the reddit/discord for it basically expect people who use it to have good coding experience with Lua so I don't recommend it.
Super Mario Bros. X is the greatest Mario Maker game that has ever been released. I think there may quite literally be 0 restrictions. You can make worlds, full games, levels with gosh-darn anything, edit the physics, edit the sprites, edit the music, etc. and Mario X Lua pushes it into godhood if it ever needs to for your creation. There's just one fatal flaw with it as far as mass appeal goes. It's not baby-proof.
TheGamingMasterGuys wasn't super Mario Bros X made by the creator of Terraria? I'm pretty sure he made SMBX before Terraria, but Nintendo told him to take it down. (I'm also pretty sure he used the Mario series, including SMBX as inspiration for Terraria)
Yay for clever boss rooms! I like your Bomb Man fight with the drop platforms. :D I really want to use this to make an open world-ish game, but it needs things like the weapon pickups your mentioned, save points, teleports, etc. Also, I'd love to see some player-accessible Joe vehicles added, like in Minus Infinity.
@@francinefleur I think we both know that SMILE is not even comparable to Super Mario Maker in terms of ease of use. besides that, the thought is more about seeing what Nintendo could do with a metroid maker, not what fans are already doing. anyhow, back to hacking.
I wonder if you saw what the newest versions have to offer. The content that came with the initial release is a joke compared to what there is now (in terms of the amount of content I mean). Oh and by the way, it is now possible to remove and give the player new weapon in the middle of a stage, and you can also change the character they are playing as.
I honestly believe that now, with all of the updates, that mega maker is much better than both mario maker 1&2. Especially the UI god why is the mario maker UI in both 1 and 2 so complicated?
I agree with you that Mario Maker should have bigger maps and have vertical stages. I will caution you about having too big of an area though. Players will abuse that shit and create so many shitty levels that have you weaving back and forth. Even if they're trying to make a good stage, often working with limited space stimulates creativity and forces the level to not be empty. I think a median between Mario Maker and Mega Maker can be reached. Edit: The same applies to enemy variety/movement/power up options. My favorite theme in Mario Maker is classic Super Mario Bros because it's so simple. It forces every challenge and enemy to be used correctly and allows for great stages, even without conventional Kaizo tricks. On the other hand, I HATE New Super Mario Bros theme with a passion. Letting Mario in the SMB them use powerups like the propeller hat and the spin jump would ruin that theme IMO.
the megamaker devs said on the official discord that every time someone asks for weapon capsules, weapon capsules get delayed by 1 update. as of posting this comment we are waiting 38.5 updates
I'm pretty sure it's real because they get a request for weapon capsules about 2 times a month. even though 1.1.0 is said to be the biggest update yet so who knows if it's in there.
Honestly, what i'd really like in mario maker would be the ability to set areas where certain abilities are disabled or enabled. I don't like the graphics of new super mario, but I like the walljumping. But unfortunately, I find that I only want walljumping in a certain area, or I want midair twirling disabled to make jumps that require more than just mario, without making it so far that it's a blind jump. Plus, that allows for some interesting concepts. Like a 'no moving left' area in the upper half of a room, and a 'no moving right' zone on the bottom half, with a conveyor and obstacles to jump over. Just don't go too far, or you won't be able to go back. Or player, structure, or enemy specific portals, to make things like moving blocks made of bullet bill cannons on a conveyor. Or conditional placement, like 'spawn a goomba if mario has a powerup, otherwise spawn a spike block'. Or setting global modifiers, such as slowing time by 15%, or allowing double jumps, or causing, instead of invulnerability when hit, mario would repel nearby enemies, which allows for powerups in levels that would completely effortless with invulnerability. Or having mario always die in one hit, to allow the effects of powerups, without the added health. Or just have the added health, without the effects. Reduce gravity for floaty moon levels. Increase gravity for puzzles, or captain toad levels. Hey, just make all of those available for zones too, to allow for added complexity. Just think of the possibilities! Flying enemies that swoop down to attack, then fly back up and repeat with high and negative gravity zones. Windy airships with sideways gravity zones. Flying boss battles with negative gravity zones at the bottom of the screen, then a decreased gravity zone for the rest of the screen. Sliding thwomps with more sideways gravity. Maybe even make underwater zones, for floating water like in super mario galaxy. Speed up or slow down time on a corkscrew for more precise timers. Dark areas for underground levels.
The video talks about a zelda maker but I don't see any ways to do it right. Do someone know how to make a good zelda maker ? It would be so cool ! PS: My english is really bad, sorry.
You would essentially just design top-down 2D Zelda dungeons. Set link's health and inventory and you're off. Honestly, I think if you have anything more than that you're going to sacrifice accessibility and quality. It's fun and easy to just make one dungeon. But to make a whole Zelda game? That's a bit more daunting, and most people will get burned out on trying.
i know, it's a 1 year old video. But if someone (like me) found this video, let me share something about the actual situation of megaman maker, pointing all thats show here: 1 - By the time now, Megaman Maker now have Weapon Containers! And more, there is what i call "Weapon Eraser", that remove the weapon designed too! 2 - Altrought its possible to make giants maps, its quite hard to make a "metroid experience" for megaman maker because, if such level is started, you need to beat it in one swoop. There are some levels that emulate this experience, but they are not gigantic, just quite more big than normal. But i got your point, and i would love to see something more complex like this. 3 - The mix of themes is really amazing, but can be quite annoying to, when the maker just put things for no reason, or just want to confuse the player. But i got the point of this too, and i too believe its awesome. 4 - Never thought about it, haha! ;P Current version is 1.4, and it added some ton of good things, you can play as Bass or Protoman (just grab their capsules, or start a level as one of them!). More weapons, more assets... but 1 thing i really, REALLY want, is the possibility to add the Dr. Willy's fortress bosses to the game, or even the possibility to make a boss rush in the levels (you can find level with more than 1 boss at same room, but as soon 1 of them is defeated, the level is completed). Those things would be nice additions too!
i can't wait for mario maker maker. make your own mario maker engine for other users to download and use, then upload your created levels to a separate server where users can play (possibly insane) courses.
“... a Zelda Maker...” There already is one and it’s been out for years for the computer! It’s called Zelda Classic, and it comes with a detailed, intricate quest creator (based on either the original LOZ or its graphical facelift), where you can make a game with more advanced elements than the original.
An indirect weapon container could be designing the sections in a certain way so that you can't use a certain weapon. For example, if you don't want them to use the c. kick, make the platforming difficult enough that they go flying into some spikes. That way, they are forced to use the other weapon or use none at all
You should try SMBX, it's a fan-made Mario Maker that was made 5 years before the actual Mario Maker! SMBX allows you to put levels together and make entire "episodes," and it also allows for vertical levels and a lot of customisation!
i totally agree with the obtainable weapons, i wanted to make something like a zelda dungeon but couldnt because i forgot it wasnt possible. good thing its still a very early version, smbx didnt stop getting updated after it came out, neither did mario maker.
I'm not the only one who thinks we should be able to gain weapons mid-level then! I also think it would be good if we could put multiple bosses in one level, perhaps creating a boss rush where you gain weapons with each victory.
There is much potential for a play-mode where the game picks 8 random levels and you get to pick order like the original games. Levels has to be completable with just the M-buster though (to prevent areas where you can only proceed with certain weapons).
The theme limitations are most likely to keep things simpler for the target audience Mario Maker has. Typically a fandom goes through 3 stages. The first stage is simple consumption. They buy the games or watch videos about them. Second level is when they go and find more fan made sources. This could be forums or other things which is a bigger gap from stage one (5% I think was the number the source used) Then stage 3 is actual creation within this source. Creating things like this game for example. Mario Maker brings Mario Level Creation towards that first group, while this game brings it to the second group. I believe my source on these group classifications was Askagamedev on tumblr/twitter
The things i want in mega maker are keys or doors that open after a defeated boss or enemy. And multiple bosses, i dont really like how after you defeat the boss you just win. Also, nice video ceive! Ive been obsessed with mega maker.
There's several the maker games you mention easily available. Warioware DIY is Warioware Maker. There's also Zelda Classic and several other Zelda Makers online that work pretty well. The "Castlevania Maker" cred basically describes the fanscene that hacks into CV1. I actually would love a decent Castlevania Maker and perhaps why not a Metroid Maker. Having huge sizes could make the size of downloads huge (which is the reason Nintendo opted out of it), but if it was programed as something like LUA or something more "protocol" like instead of asset-fest programming it could work. Love the content.
If anyone has created a Mega Maker level and wants me to play it, feel free to leave me the ID in a comment here, I'll play as many of them as possible during the next couple of days. And maybe someone else wants to give them a try as well! (:
Hey Ceave! So glad you made a video on this! Here's my best level ID: 29386. It's called Snowball Fight, where the player can only deflect enemy bullets. I won't spoil any more, and I'd be really glad if you checked it out!
Ceave Gaming do some ideas with this
OMG the phinx level was my brothers!!! thanks for playing it!!!
31459 , a classic design ^^
This doesn't have to do with mega maker but I have an idea for a timer in super Mario maker and I think it will show you a mechanic you have never heard of. here it is. It is a chain chomp timer. in the super mario bros 3 game theme if a chain chomp lunges at you I think 36 time it will suddenly break from its post. This timer only works in the super mario bros 3 game theme. It is a very long timer. Place a mega chain chomp between two p-switches and after about 36 lunges he will get to the exit door. Here is an idea with this timer. Oh it looks like mario found himself trapped on a platform on a track in a small room that keeps going left to right. This would have been a very fun time for mario if it wasn't for the two piranha plants on tracks as small as you can make them with one on the left and one on the right but thankfully after a while this mega chain chomp decides he doesn't want to be held captive on a post anymore allowing mario to escape this nightmare.
and now there are weapon capsules :D
*with a exclamation point.
yeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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And NOW there is things from megaman 7-9!
and grass tyles
yay
@MÖTH OF THE LÄMP btw how do i setup which one is the boss and which one is the miniboss???
"or even a Wario Ware Maker"
Wario Ware DIY.
Made by Nintendo for the DS before Super Mario Maker.
heh
goatnorth "and even a WarioWare Maker"
RIP Wario Land series
you will not be forgotten
But a Wario Land Maker would really be cool.
Wario Land is a really good game but I think his main game series is now Wario Ware.
goatnorth iii
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A Kirby Maker would be great. "Kirby's Dream Maker" sounds nice.
Shall I do it sir Meta Knight?
P.S. Nado was inspired by you.
MarioMadness734 // Mar734 Yes
I always thought that was a good name too. Woah we're in sync r something OoOoOoOoOoOo
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Kirby kreator (I'm so sorry)
Is fun to see videos from when Mega Man Maker was released and compare them to it now. Amazing how much this game has improoved over the years.
Meega Man
Ikr! I used to hate ceave's accent but it doesn't bother me anymore.
The point was just to highlight how he said Mega Man. This is one of my favourite videos from him. I love his accent
He sounds like an all scammer.
Apk
Thomas Eichelberger
he's just pointing it out
calm down
2:12...holy shit. I completely forgot that Mega Man takes place in the year 20XX. Hax$ was right! Look at those multishines!
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Meta Knight The year is 20xx. Everyone makes shitty levels that can only be beaten by players at TAS levels of perfection.
Don’t we live in 20XX tho?
Asjid Gaming So fucking what?
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After 1.1, Mega Maker was renamed to Mega Man Maker to avoid confusion with others that were named same as the game. And as of 1.7.5 which is the current stable version, there were a lot of features and updates had been added ever since this video came out.
Damn...looking back i cant believe this is how it started compared to how it is now
yea. ceave said that this version of mega maker is complex, but in comparison to the current game, this is really bare bones.
Honest opinion: This game blows Mario Maker at the water. I mean, Look at 1.8. This has more than 20 bosses, 40 weapons, and 40 gimmicks/enemies! It is insane.
There actually exists a Zelda Maker (more or less). Its still in development but it still looks amazing! For anyone wondering the name of it is Runiya and is developed by Dream Mix(also their youtube channel name). I highly suggest taking a look into it if you're interested. Also a great day!
i`ve seen it:) it`s pretty good
The name is actually Adventure Maker, Runiya is the name of the campaign that will come with it.
Back then, it was called Runiya.
*Adventure Maker
A gigantic Metroidvania Mega Man map was made, and it's called Protovania. The issue, though, is whatever engine MMM is using is not designed to handle such enormous stages, and so the framerate absolutely chugs.
I don't regret having installed the game. I first knew about it in your videos and I decided to install it. I made an incredible level using a lot of weapon capsules. the level is called "Puzzle Castle - Easy map". if you want to play it, I'll upload it soon!
Someone's gonna make a game in WarioWare Maker called Wario Waker where you try to awaken Wario
I'd totally play that!
Ceave Gaming a pokemon maker already exits in rpg maker
Psychic Dragon And a Zelda Maker exists as well. Final Fantasy maker is also already in RPG maker.
That would be cool
"Final Fantasy Maker"
so you mean RPG Maker
"Wario Ware Maker"
So you mean Wario Ware DIY (though I do agree we need a better way to make wario ware stuff that game isnt good enough)
I'm glad someone mentioned RPG Maker ;)
rpg maker is shit
Mega Maker was pretty good from the get-go, which is why it's especially impressive that updates keep coming out every once in a while.
A bit unrelated, but for the end segment, to be honest I'd prefer a Wario _Land_ maker more than a Wario _Ware_ maker since WarioWare DIY already exists. That and Wario Land Maker would kinda work better as a maker since it is a platformer instead of a minigame collection. It would also be cool for fans of the Wario Land series since there hasn't been a game in that series for years. But still, overall, nice video.
The Wario Land inspired game Pizza Tower has a level maker. It might me a mod, but I'm not sure.
Just yesterday I remembered this game existed, and I had a lot of fun replaying my old favorite levels. Then I remembered this video was where I first found out about Megaman Maker. I gotta make more levels if it's still relatively alive!
it is still alive.
A update is coming in the 25th
What's next? Sonic maker? Donkey Kong maker? More makers isn't a bad thing though. I bet we've all played a game and thought, 'I wish I could design a level for this game.' Maker games give us this possibility. Plus they are really creative and imaginative. And being creative and imaginative is fun.
Puzzle Puppet hmm. Interesting. What is is for? (PC, Nintendo consoles)
Toad 1000
No Sonic maker.
A Sonic maker (called Sonic Studio) is actually being developed, but we still have the old versions which relies on chunks instead of lines.
Meega Maker?
sonic studio is sonic maker its a beutiful fan game but its not released yet :(
And now Mega Man Maker is at full release, and it's arguably heads-n-shoulders above Mario Maker 1 and 2.
"A WarioWare Maker" WarioWare DIY
Years later its better than ever though possible
Okay, here are my views on each point
1. I do like the weapons in general, and some are really cool, but I also feel that all of the options actually bar creativity in a way. In Mario maker, there are fewer options, meaning that makers have to get creative and use elements in completely unintended and original ways. This originality that I so love is far less common and less amazing when options are just there. This may just be my puzzle-oriented brain talking, but I really prefer having to come up with original ideas with the things that are available.
2. There really is nothing to criticize about more freedom, and Mario maker could certainly benefit from this as well.
3. More freedom of theme would certainly be used well by Mario maker, and a good designer could likely sculpt a masterpiece with these tools. This would make level design a tad trickier, as certain elements just don't go together, but with a competent creator, freedom would only be a good thing.
4. The health bar is a tricky one, as Mario and mega man are two very different things, but health works well in mega man's world of bullets and fast enemies, just as power ups work in Mario's more platforming-centric universe.
Mario maker and Mega maker are two very different games, and to compare them would be grossly inaccurate. Mega maker is a brilliant game, especially for free, and these are just my opinions so don't get caught up over it. Feel free to discuss further and I hope that I've given you something interesting to consider.
More freedom would be great in Mario Maker, i reach the item limit and the level goal always way too soon )-:
I only wish Mario Maker gave us more items and elements to work with, like Mega Maker. There are so many classic power-ups and enemies that could've been used. I'm tired of the same 'castle-theme SMW Bowser fight'
Imagine if we got some new bosses, like the Koopalings, Boom Boom, or Kamek. And new world types, including Jungle, Ice, Beach etc.
DreamBigPig ` comparing them is perfectly fair, Mario Maker could be so much better. When some random joe can do better than a mainstream billion dollar company there is a problen
Well you see thing is you could still use what you have in new and creative ways you have more options sure,that allows even more creativity with every option
health works in mario's universe, too. look at super mario galaxy and super mario galaxy 2 and super mario odyssey and super mario 64. and super mario sunshine,even.
1. I agree with you .
2. Usually Mega Man Stages have different lengths . Some are 20 squares , some are 25 squares . While Almost all 2D Mario stages are of same length .
3. Mario's physics changes in different styles and different themes, however mega man's physics are same in different games and themes .
4. This is because every Mega Man maker stage is virtually the same while in Mario maker every stage has a unique taste to it . Also , on average Mega Man games are harder than Mario games .
5 years later and 7 (almost 8) updates later
wow old mega man maker was primitive and was closer to mega man powered up in terms of limitations
The names of the weapons you mentioned are: "Charge Kick, Top Spin, Skull Barrier, Nado (inspired from Meta Knight in SSB), Shine (inspired from Fox in SSB), Rush Coil, Rush Jet, Flash Stopper, Gravity Hold"
You can now place weapon containers
We need more "maker" games.
13KuriMaster btg showcases many
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13KuriMaster smbx 2.0 can already make levels for many game series
ShadowSD
We have that.
(Andrej Karpathy's LSTM)
Kirby Maker!!!
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I'm totally going to make a sprawling Metroidvania map when weapon containers get added.
Thank you for covering this wonderful fan project on your channel. Mega Maker is a great example of a more free level creator and I would love to see some of your Mario Maker following check it out.
best part is it's still being updated un like the Mario maker games game has so much more stuff now AND it's willy challenge works great unlike Mario makers endless mode or 100 life mode.....like truth be told capcom really should be proud of the fanbase.
Great. Now where's my Undertale boss fight maker?
Gaiden Castro
Screw Undergarbage.
Undertale is garbage.
It's called unitale/create your frisk. if you still care. though a quick warning. the people on the reddit/discord for it basically expect people who use it to have good coding experience with Lua so I don't recommend it.
You mean Unitale?
@@eddieboy1st It's a really good game, but what's really garbage is the fanbase that makes people think it's garbage.
"migga maker" ur tempting fate there ceave, watch out
9:09 "Or even a Warioware Maker!" WELP WARIOWARE D.I.Y HAS GOT YA COVERED!
You should do a video about Super Mario Bros. X one day.
TheGamingMasterGuys He should, I think he would love it. Since there are basicely no restrictions in building
TheGamingMasterGuys Yes, I agree. You can even make mega man levels in smbx 2.0
Tom R Didn't even think of that! Thank you for the reminder. I still use 1.4.3 so I'm a bit behind
Super Mario Bros. X is the greatest Mario Maker game that has ever been released. I think there may quite literally be 0 restrictions. You can make worlds, full games, levels with gosh-darn anything, edit the physics, edit the sprites, edit the music, etc. and Mario X Lua pushes it into godhood if it ever needs to for your creation. There's just one fatal flaw with it as far as mass appeal goes. It's not baby-proof.
TheGamingMasterGuys wasn't super Mario Bros X made by the creator of Terraria? I'm pretty sure he made SMBX before Terraria, but Nintendo told him to take it down. (I'm also pretty sure he used the Mario series, including SMBX as inspiration for Terraria)
Man, I wish you revisited this game in the future! How its grown so much!
Mario kart maker needs to be a thing!
no
YESSSSSS!!!!
It Can't Work
no. how about a mario kart: track maker mode
good thing it is
9:10 That already exists as "WarioWare D.I.Y"
If only you saw this game nowadays...
Somebody _needs_ to make a _Wario Land Maker!_
I'd love to see how it would turn out, especially with all the transformations.
I see you cover Super Mario Maker a lot. How about cover Super Mario Unimaker.
Agreed
oh hai mayro
Raymarko J. Armstrong or super mario maker 64
I also agree. I love that game, even if it's confusing at first. Once you're into it, creating open levels has never been more fun.
Raymarko J. Armstrong can someone explain what super Mario unimaker is
Yay for clever boss rooms! I like your Bomb Man fight with the drop platforms. :D
I really want to use this to make an open world-ish game, but it needs things like the weapon pickups your mentioned, save points, teleports, etc. Also, I'd love to see some player-accessible Joe vehicles added, like in Minus Infinity.
This was really intriguing and thought provoking... until you mentioned Kirby Maker. Now I want a Kirby Maker.
Russell Arrington When I saw mega maker I wanted a Kirby maker.
JoacoXtreme896
I suppose it would be pretty simple to make a Kirby's Dream Land Maker, with such a small tile set.
Metroid maker tho, especially if they do what mega maker does and merges all the 2D games into one somewhat complete package.
@@ZxCrono Get SMILE on MC Then.
@@francinefleur I think we both know that SMILE is not even comparable to Super Mario Maker in terms of ease of use.
besides that, the thought is more about seeing what Nintendo could do with a metroid maker, not what fans are already doing.
anyhow, back to hacking.
3:40 oh man I have got great news for you 4 years later
You should return to this game..
I wonder if you saw what the newest versions have to offer. The content that came with the initial release is a joke compared to what there is now (in terms of the amount of content I mean). Oh and by the way, it is now possible to remove and give the player new weapon in the middle of a stage, and you can also change the character they are playing as.
I honestly believe that now, with all of the updates, that mega maker is much better than both mario maker 1&2. Especially the UI god why is the mario maker UI in both 1 and 2 so complicated?
"Mega man is more forgiving than mario"
Yeah, right
Who else found out about this game from blue television games.
Me!
me
not that anyone cares
Me too!
Michele Harrell
I didn't know about it anywhere before this video!
Michele Harrell ME xD
Do people in your country say "mee-ga? It's just bothering me
Agree...
Lamborghini Bottle yes we do
Lamborghini Bottle *mēga
Lamborghini Bottle the e is silent
smm flo lol didn't know you also watched this channel
"WarioWare maker" WarioWare DIY has got you covered
Final Fantasy Maker has been around for some 20 years. It's called RPGMaker.
This is actually freaking awesome!
Good job on the Devs 👏
I agree with you that Mario Maker should have bigger maps and have vertical stages. I will caution you about having too big of an area though. Players will abuse that shit and create so many shitty levels that have you weaving back and forth. Even if they're trying to make a good stage, often working with limited space stimulates creativity and forces the level to not be empty. I think a median between Mario Maker and Mega Maker can be reached.
Edit: The same applies to enemy variety/movement/power up options. My favorite theme in Mario Maker is classic Super Mario Bros because it's so simple. It forces every challenge and enemy to be used correctly and allows for great stages, even without conventional Kaizo tricks. On the other hand, I HATE New Super Mario Bros theme with a passion. Letting Mario in the SMB them use powerups like the propeller hat and the spin jump would ruin that theme IMO.
Super Mario Bros U, DS, and Wii are so Underrated
Looking back at this video, and seeing how much MMM improved over the days, I'm actually happy, that it even exists.
Even more so today! :D
Mega maker is WAY better than Mario maker in every way
Yes! I'm so happy you're covering Mega Maker!
the big question now is ¿is mario maker 2 or mega man maker 1.7.2 better?
Well... Somehow Mega Man Maker got better.
@@RustyLeguitoSecundario honestly comparing megamaker to Mario maker is like comparing an atomic bomb to a stick. Mario maker is needlessly limited.
@@Gerbert67 Yeah, also, one game is still getting updates.
"Mega Man is more forgiving than Mario"
No, it's not
A Pokémon maker?
I NEED IT NOW GIVE IT TO ME!!
You Know Someone's Gonna Do It.
closest we have is pokemon essentials, which is not exactly beginner friendly, and requires RPG maker XP
however,if you don't have rp maker xp (free trial ran out),you can still play game.exe of pokemon essentials games.
"Mega man is more forgiving than mario"
You haven't played mega man have you?
WEAPON CONTAINERS PLEASE!
It's currently the Most requested content. Soon my friend.
the megamaker devs said on the official discord that every time someone asks for weapon capsules, weapon capsules get delayed by 1 update. as of posting this comment we are waiting 38.5 updates
Tailsdoll25 Gaming I dont know if this is a joke from the dev Because of how requested it is or a flat out get lost to everyone.
Oh well.
I'm pretty sure it's real because they get a request for weapon capsules about 2 times a month. even though 1.1.0 is said to be the biggest update yet so who knows if it's in there.
D.R.G. The Weapon Capsules were just added on the 1.2 update
Honestly, what i'd really like in mario maker would be the ability to set areas where certain abilities are disabled or enabled. I don't like the graphics of new super mario, but I like the walljumping. But unfortunately, I find that I only want walljumping in a certain area, or I want midair twirling disabled to make jumps that require more than just mario, without making it so far that it's a blind jump. Plus, that allows for some interesting concepts. Like a 'no moving left' area in the upper half of a room, and a 'no moving right' zone on the bottom half, with a conveyor and obstacles to jump over. Just don't go too far, or you won't be able to go back. Or player, structure, or enemy specific portals, to make things like moving blocks made of bullet bill cannons on a conveyor. Or conditional placement, like 'spawn a goomba if mario has a powerup, otherwise spawn a spike block'. Or setting global modifiers, such as slowing time by 15%, or allowing double jumps, or causing, instead of invulnerability when hit, mario would repel nearby enemies, which allows for powerups in levels that would completely effortless with invulnerability. Or having mario always die in one hit, to allow the effects of powerups, without the added health. Or just have the added health, without the effects. Reduce gravity for floaty moon levels. Increase gravity for puzzles, or captain toad levels. Hey, just make all of those available for zones too, to allow for added complexity. Just think of the possibilities! Flying enemies that swoop down to attack, then fly back up and repeat with high and negative gravity zones. Windy airships with sideways gravity zones. Flying boss battles with negative gravity zones at the bottom of the screen, then a decreased gravity zone for the rest of the screen. Sliding thwomps with more sideways gravity. Maybe even make underwater zones, for floating water like in super mario galaxy. Speed up or slow down time on a corkscrew for more precise timers. Dark areas for underground levels.
The video talks about a zelda maker but I don't see any ways to do it right. Do someone know how to make a good zelda maker ? It would be so cool !
PS: My english is really bad, sorry.
There is already a Zelda Maker, it's called "Zelda Classic"
Oh ! That's great ! Thank you. This game looks great. I'll try it out.
Aaron Smith There is one but I don't remember the name, i think it is "Dungeon Maker". Chances of Nintendo taking it down are low by the way.
You would essentially just design top-down 2D Zelda dungeons. Set link's health and inventory and you're off. Honestly, I think if you have anything more than that you're going to sacrifice accessibility and quality. It's fun and easy to just make one dungeon. But to make a whole Zelda game? That's a bit more daunting, and most people will get burned out on trying.
What about a great world like the ocean in wind waker and each user-made dungeon/island is used to fill the world ?
Excellent video. Great job. You provide a lot of good points when talking about the potential of maker games and mega maker itself. Noice
You should do a QnA
i know, it's a 1 year old video. But if someone (like me) found this video, let me share something about the actual situation of megaman maker, pointing all thats show here:
1 - By the time now, Megaman Maker now have Weapon Containers! And more, there is what i call "Weapon Eraser", that remove the weapon designed too!
2 - Altrought its possible to make giants maps, its quite hard to make a "metroid experience" for megaman maker because, if such level is started, you need to beat it in one swoop. There are some levels that emulate this experience, but they are not gigantic, just quite more big than normal. But i got your point, and i would love to see something more complex like this.
3 - The mix of themes is really amazing, but can be quite annoying to, when the maker just put things for no reason, or just want to confuse the player. But i got the point of this too, and i too believe its awesome.
4 - Never thought about it, haha! ;P
Current version is 1.4, and it added some ton of good things, you can play as Bass or Protoman (just grab their capsules, or start a level as one of them!). More weapons, more assets... but 1 thing i really, REALLY want, is the possibility to add the Dr. Willy's fortress bosses to the game, or even the possibility to make a boss rush in the levels (you can find level with more than 1 boss at same room, but as soon 1 of them is defeated, the level is completed). Those things would be nice additions too!
I thought you said Nigga-Maker...
You have a wierd sense of humor
But his voice accent is different.
Nice name, Of creating some black people in a game ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Heh
The heck. I have more likes than Ceave's comment.
That was just un-called for.
Good News for your criticism at 3:15, Weapon Capsules are now a thing in Mega Maker!
It's pronounced meh- guh man" not mii- ga man
It's Meh-gah-man. Not Meh-guh man.
No it’s Mee-Gay Man
@@Unfunniest_Asian it's pronounced Me-bitch-left-me-for-a-BBC.
You have no idea how much better this is now...
You should do a video on Super Mario Bros. X
"Imagine how a Sonic Maker could look"
Well, an upcoming fan project by the name of Sonic Studio might interest you
Miiga Maker. MIIGA MAKER.
accent. ACCENT
I'm spanish and it sounds literally *CRUMB MAKER*
i can't wait for mario maker maker. make your own mario maker engine for other users to download and use, then upload your created levels to a separate server where users can play (possibly insane) courses.
Why would you assume it will be basic and bland?
Most "maker" fangames are.
because making it big and well made takes a ton of time and efford which is unlikely for a free fan game nintendo migth take down.
The only level editors that aren't boring are those with the word maker in them.
MayroSMM smbx
I said "most", not "all".
I was gonna say these r fucking huge and u blew my mind with the 1000 screen areas and as u say Metroidvania I was thinking of mega man in Metroid
Meega Maker? Really?
I was just about to write that.
He has an accent and you can't judge him because of that
Obsidian Clorox I like his accent
Welp, we oughta try to make a Kirby maker
miga maker?
Honestly you saying Weapon Containers could make this game awesome and make a Metroidvania has made me REALLY want a huge metroid maker style game.
What about Super Mario Brothers X?
The thumbnail though... Mario.. Are you ok?... Mario: *VIDEOGAME WAR FLASHBACK CONCUSSION*
You've obviously never seen Super Mario Bros. X.
Süshi~Vølcano True, smbx has literally no restrictions. Most of my favourite Mario games were made with smbx
I used to play that so much but when people made fan versions of it like smbx20 or idk I just stopped cuz I didnt know wich ine to play
SMBX doesn't has restrictions....
If you know how to code brand new elements ofc
If you don't,then it does have restrictions
“... a Zelda Maker...”
There already is one and it’s been out for years for the computer! It’s called Zelda Classic, and it comes with a detailed, intricate quest creator (based on either the original LOZ or its graphical facelift), where you can make a game with more advanced elements than the original.
I got first view and like and comment!
popn' Locke You were behind by like 1 minute
Thats going too far
Liar late by like a month
NOBODY. CARES.
Blue shell! If you say super horn I say lightning! Oh, and if you say star, I say your internet breaks and you get disconnected from the game! :D
An indirect weapon container could be designing the sections in a certain way so that you can't use a certain weapon. For example, if you don't want them to use the c. kick, make the platforming difficult enough that they go flying into some spikes. That way, they are forced to use the other weapon or use none at all
Ceave I have a question. From wich series do you want a "Maker" game / series?
You should try SMBX, it's a fan-made Mario Maker that was made 5 years before the actual Mario Maker!
SMBX allows you to put levels together and make entire "episodes," and it also allows for vertical levels and a lot of customisation!
"Weapon containers" I wish, making metroidvanias without coding is awesome
i totally agree with the obtainable weapons, i wanted to make something like a zelda dungeon but couldnt because i forgot it wasnt possible.
good thing its still a very early version, smbx didnt stop getting updated after it came out, neither did mario maker.
I had no idea this game existed. Looking forward to trying it out
that moment when you don't have a gaming pc or a pc in general ;-; i guess i'll just stay here expecting a macbook pro version
You should check out the level "Choose your path" (Level ID: 80353), considering what you talked about in the video, I'm sure you'll love it.
I'm not the only one who thinks we should be able to gain weapons mid-level then! I also think it would be good if we could put multiple bosses in one level, perhaps creating a boss rush where you gain weapons with each victory.
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you did get your wish idk which update but weapon containers are in the game now
There is much potential for a play-mode where the game picks 8 random levels and you get to pick order like the original games. Levels has to be completable with just the M-buster though (to prevent areas where you can only proceed with certain weapons).
The theme limitations are most likely to keep things simpler for the target audience Mario Maker has.
Typically a fandom goes through 3 stages. The first stage is simple consumption. They buy the games or watch videos about them.
Second level is when they go and find more fan made sources. This could be forums or other things which is a bigger gap from stage one (5% I think was the number the source used)
Then stage 3 is actual creation within this source. Creating things like this game for example.
Mario Maker brings Mario Level Creation towards that first group, while this game brings it to the second group.
I believe my source on these group classifications was Askagamedev on tumblr/twitter
The things i want in mega maker are keys or doors that open after a defeated boss or enemy. And multiple bosses, i dont really like how after you defeat the boss you just win. Also, nice video ceive! Ive been obsessed with mega maker.
There's several the maker games you mention easily available. Warioware DIY is Warioware Maker. There's also Zelda Classic and several other Zelda Makers online that work pretty well. The "Castlevania Maker" cred basically describes the fanscene that hacks into CV1. I actually would love a decent Castlevania Maker and perhaps why not a Metroid Maker. Having huge sizes could make the size of downloads huge (which is the reason Nintendo opted out of it), but if it was programed as something like LUA or something more "protocol" like instead of asset-fest programming it could work. Love the content.