Preparing for Australia's power failures with the Bluetti AC300 | Auto Expert John Cadogan
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I've had a generator for decades. We had regular brown outs in my regional Town when I moved out here.
My routine is well practiced.
It runs my house water pumps and pool.
John,
The bigger issue is how did we get to this point. We are a nation with abundant energy and yet here we are. I understand Bluettti make a great product, but flogging them for expected brown/black outs in a first world country?…. Something has gone terribly wrong and this should be the basis of your video, rather than a band-aid solution to a problem we should never face.
Cheers
agreed, U.S. infrastructure in bad shape overall but our storms can knock power out on average once or twice a year no matter what section of the country I've stayed. Generators are still a good idea to keep necessities running.
I was in central FL a couple decades ago and sat through 3 hurricanes within a few weeks, power was out for over a week.
I have no idea what your weather is like over there and if you get weather caused outages as regularly.
It is also easier to get a generator to fix it for you, as fixing electrical grids will take a bit of time and money to stabilize.
Think of how Idiot in Charge Biden thinks the U.S. should be all driving electric cars in 10 years ... wtf.
@@zakuraayame5091 The rundown grid parts of USA are those that are controlled by Trump supporters ( EG Texas, where,buing that crunch, Ted did a runner ).
Here in OZ we sometimes get storms, not that many. This time it was fuel suppliers trying to destroy the newly voted in government, it backfired, the old, incompetent government ( with close ties to tRump ) that had just been voted out copped the government blame and the owners of the mines etc copped the rest.
Australia stopped being a 1st world country when the greens got into bed with Labor. We have some of the highest quality Uranium in the world, which we already mine and sell to enlightened countries for power generation. Yet we still dig up coal, which we sell to 3rd world countries for power generation, but are being told we can't use here. Sigh. Nuclear power and sensible reliable renewable sources is all we need. Solar is not the answer, because, nighttime. Wind is better, depending on the site, but still not perfect. And batteries do not MAKE energy, you need excess energy first to store.
Privatisation in Australia has destroyed us
@@johnhillbilly8625 But the government of the time ( all sides, various times ) has made lots of money... to give to their mates.
As a recent employee of one of Australia’s largest electricity distribution companies I can guarantee much of Victoria’s system is in a deplorable condition
As is South Australias, there is a constant upgrade programme to try and keep ahead of high density housing developments in inner older suburbs. They aren't keeping up.
If your grid in Victoria is deplorable, I wonder what you would call the grid in South Africa? Fuckt, comes to mind.
@@labourlawact7826 doesn't help when blokes cut live power cables to cash in the copper.
@@seanworkman431 Exactly. Our whole country is falling apart under a corrupt government.
@@labourlawact7826 I am sorry to hear that, I have met some wonderful people from south afrrica. The metal merchants should not accept the copper, In Australia empty beer kegs were being stolen and cashed in the government maid it illegal to accept something that was another's infrastructure with heavy penalties, before that storm water grates were being stolen and one house I knew of these guys came and stole all the copper guttering in daylight. Now you have to have a business # and connected bank account for payment. A guy from SA I knew was a motoring journalist and was driving home in a test car, was pulled over by the police who then took his wallet, keys and the Mercedes left him on the side of the road. When he found a police station they would not believe him and refused to take him home or file a report.
Another nice option, I use old/outdated and somewhat useless iPads and iPhones bolted to my walls around the house as smart home control panels and displays for my security camera's, these all have their own batteries, when the power goes out on the rare occasion, these all emit enough light for you to see "okay" specially in the middle of the night, and will allow you to navigate your home without smashing ones noggin on a random half closed door :)
Thanks John for sharing your ideas. Many of us may not appreciate it until they experience power outage.
If well prepared, a power outage may actually turn to be an interesting indoor camping adventure.
I don't think that the AC300 is portable as it weighs at around 44lbs already not yet including the B300.
When the power fails here , I shut the "Main" breaker off on our electrical panel . Next I start the generator out by the garage and power the house as needed by manipulating the breakers I want or don't want to power . The problem with our back-up power system is if we lose power in the middle of the night , the fan I sleep with will go off and I'm too lazy to get out of bed and fire up the back-up system which means no sleep .
I do the same thing, little genny by the shed, power failure open the main switch lock it open and backfeed from the shed.
John, for the 5v and 12v items like modems and routers, there are some cheap UPS units on eBay, there is a supplier on the east coast for these, they are quite cheap and well worth it, I purchased a stack of them to run all my home networking equipment and video cameras, from memory their less than $50 delivered each and have 4 x 18650's inside and just connect between the AC/DC wall wart and the device through the standard barrel jacks that everything seems to use these days, most low power equipment will run all night on these packs and they are set and forget, power goes out, all the equipment stays operational, power comes back, they start to trickle charge automatically, from the last time I looked, I think they were 12v/5v 3amp max output, not sure on the watt hours though.
Classic. I got set up for this scenario last year - I could see what was going to happen. My area already has had a black out - I was the only house in the street with power.
Pretty impressive feature for the AC300 also being capable of UPS/Auto-Transfer Switch. I can see the appeal for that.
Also, a note at 12:00 on the topic of refrigeration. Don't forget modern fridge/freezers whilst very efficient at cooling will regularly cycle into defrost. This involves powering up a whopping heat element to melt the accumulated ice on the evaporator (really cold bit inside).
A quick search for ratings came up with between 300W to 700W + for an average defrost element and a cycle of 2-3 times in 24 hours for between 20-40 mins each cycle.
I learnt this the hard way when running my kitchen fridge off my camper battery/inverter during a scheduled outage. I had calculated enough power for everything all day until the fridge hit its first defrost and blew my numbers out of the water.
Some modern fridges have an"Eco" and/or "Vacation" mode that may cut out or reduce the defrost cycle. Otherwise that simple old beer fridge in the shed without a defrost element might be the better option.
What sucks even more is that here in Tassie, we have an energy surplus - with the surplus capacity being sold to Victoria. Now with the East Coast shortages and price rises, we are copping the price hikes too. In effect, Tasmania is paying for the power "shortages" in other states, even though there is no power shortage here. I've lost all hope of MALS... We're a banana republic at this point.
J Cad, as you are probably never known, just curious how many litres of E85 would you have to pump through a Honda generator to recharge 100km worth of range out of the Kona if the grid fails ?
One point regarding LED lighting and the Bluetti and other systems - they recommend that 12V or USB powered lights be used in preference to 230V due to the "inefficiency" of the conversion to 230V and back again. If you only need lighting or USB device charging you don't need to run the 230V outlets.
Yes and stuff that runs on batteries generally can be run on rechargeables that you keep always charged. This saves even more power loss during the emergency.
You don't "need" a bluetti. You just need an inverter to run the TV and lights from a simple battery. Under 200 Aussie $
@@labourlawact7826 You can likely buy more than one inverter and be better off. Something to make the fridge go should be its own thing so a failure in the TV area doesn't kill the power to the fridge.
ALSO: There are other ways to make a battery run a TV.
You're talking about possible power failures. Here in South Africa we have loads of loadshedding, where the power goes out for up to 3 times a day, even for 4 hours.
Every single day!
Maybe you should market the bluetti here lol. ..
I suspect a lot of the shortfall at least in NSW will be made up by reducing aluminium output. I don’t know if we can supply enough power to the other states to cause brownouts with Tomago on low power.
You can get lockouts installed which completely disconnect the mains and allow the solar inverter to be turned back on if you have mains connected batteries.
I have a fridge running on solar at the moment it may not be worth giving my camping batteries that much of a workout but it did seem to make a noticeable difference on our power bill.
I suppose if the lights go out for too long we can just visit mum and dad who already live off the grid and don’t get blackouts
Reducing aluminium output except at the margins means shutting cells. This is very very costly. So yeah shut a pot line because its stinking hot on particular day but that pot line may never reopen.
Transfer switches are mandatory in the US.
Just a heads up it'll often take more than lockouts to do that, to run off your solar and batteries you'll need an inverter that's able to work without being tied to the grid too which many of them don't do.
We definitely rely a lot on Tomago switching loads off. It's really only something they're able to do for a short amount of time, but that's usually all we need to get past the peaks.
@@ZENbulldozer the local one (which puts out 30% of Australian aluminium) seems to be able to ramp up and down by enough to power a medium city with around a day’s notice. As a percentage of the maximum power they can draw it isn’t a huge amount but it makes a pretty good buffer
I've a very good friend who has been installing off grid systems for nearly 25 years now. I can have a small system to run my lights and all power points for around $10k.
All Australian made stuff. Victron and Century Yuassa.
I haven't bothered because my power bill is less than $800 yearly. $10k is a big investment. We haven't had a more than 3 hour outage here in 10 years.
Victron products aren't made in Australia.
@@stevenlane729 But at least they are not made in China!
@@Motumatai3 practically everything that we own has a component which is made in China.
The problem is however when people are claiming to sell Australian made when they clearly aren't.
Did I miss the review on the Thor hammer? Been eyeballing a few, specifically the #5 split head and another one of their great dead blows.
Could you somehow setup up a socket to go from the mains electrical switch board (usually located on the outside of a garage), into a socket on the wall inside the garage whereby the bluetti system can remain in a dry area but power up the necessary appliances (even if certain circuit breakers need to be disengaged)
Yes you can.
I have a LED desk lamp that runs off usb and emits enough light for 1 room, we also have mini torches on every keyring and ample battery rechargable torches and lamps. Some are Olight and are good products. LED makes the difference and John is correct in saying do it now before you need it. We also have a 10kva diesel generator if power is going to be down for some time, it snows where we live and sometimes it is too dangerous to send a repair crew, I don't want one of them dying so we can watch netflix.
I would also recommend switched power boards for safety and do make sure your extension cords are safe, if they are twisted and kinked buy new ones. Good advice John, thank you.
More things that you can do:
1) insulate the house. Nothing helps your comfort as much as a house that takes a long time to get too hot.
2) Put water bottles in the unused space in the freezer. This will carry it cold for a long time with no power and gives you extra emergency water.
3) Have some water on hand.
4) Have food in cans you can eat without heating. Tuna can work for this. It will get you past one meal at least.
5) Have a good non-electric can opener.
6) Battery powered radios are handy. Have more than one if many people in the house.
7) USB over the air TV tuners can get you TV to watch at low power if your laptop/RaspberryPI is low powered.
8) Keep some board games and child jigsaw puzzles if you have kids.
9) Very reflective clothing can be good to make you more obvious when outside.
10) Review the above and buy rechargeable batteries as needed for each and a charger.
11) Know where all this and extra blankets etc are.
Yep all good. Those $20 portable butane gas camp stoves are pretty handy too. I've had one for years and have a 6-pack of spare butane gas canisters if ever needed. Great to boil a kettle. LED camp lights are another winner plus a supply of spare batteries. We have an emergency grab and go kit with this sort of stuff, mostly in case of bushfire evacuation.
We also have a plug-in emergency light - if the power is cut it automatically turns on. It's in the hallway connected to bedrooms which is the most likely spot needing initial lighting if power goes out at night.
12) Candles.
@@tomnewham1269 Candles are less useful than a lot of people think. They really don't make much light. You have to have a responsible adult involved to prevent fire etc.
John is the F150 lighting coming to Australia - I know so many Americans esp Tx they buying them due to grid issues?
Just realized that for me to use the AC300, I still have to buy an extra battery like the B300 just to use it.
It was bound to happen eventually...... a full blown 18 minutes and 32 seconds Advertisment!!!!!
Well said
Well, it is ad I don't mind. It is still informative that is helpful to plan power backup.
Yup, there must be a ton of dosh in doing this because (at least in my opinion) it hurts the reputation of the channel.
Where do I send my money for flashlights and high priced batteries. I'm off.
The unfortunate thing now days is people only rely on one source of power, such as the mains from the street, it will be there all the time so I dont need to have a back up plan....me on the other hand live in a regional area where the power does go off often, so I had my sparky wire in a manual mains/aux transfer switch in the meter box, so in the event of a power failure I can run the 6KVa electric start diesel gen set for the essential items in the house such as the Welser, lathe, workshop tools, and perhaps the house fridge and TV....Interesting that the local Telstra 4G tower has no UPS back up so when the power goes out so does the phone and internet. Having a wood fired oven is great too, the joy of country living. I saw the problems with the power grid supply 30 years ago and I have backup for backups. Would be good to get the Bluetti AC300 for when the good wife for when the power goes out so all she needs to do is just flip the change over switch.
I got around about 12kWh worth of battery bolted to my house. Capable of 3kW output. Had 'em a couple of years. Manufacturer i believe rates their endurance at around 20,000 cycles ('Hive' batteries, check 'em up).
I've seen some, very slightly, questionable readout data from my associated app, making me query if they're gonna last their required say, scant minimum 10 years (such as to justify their huge price).
But even with accordingly around 12kWh energy, i'd say even that could barely keep our house, and relative standard appliances going for 48 hrs.
Portable batteries are cool, but probably won't grant normal living conditions in a blackout. 3kWh worth, fridge, TV n lights, I'd wager 6 hrs max
Dear John. I was about to order one of these for all the reasons you explain. Then I watched your earlier video on the VW/Porsche EVs that burnt down and sank a ship. Large lithium batteries seem like an accident waiting to happen. I certainly don’t want a large lithium battery in my house if there is a chance of a thermal runaway. Danger is lurking around every corner in modern life unfortunately.
benjanos, the battery chemistry in the Porsche EVs is significantly different to what's in the Bluetti. The Bluetti uses LiFePO4 batteries which are inherently far safer than the NMC chemistry in those EVs. LiFePO4 does not experience thermal runaway in the manner NMC can. Don't get me wrong, batteries of any chemistry have inherent risks but the sort of risk posed by LiFePO4 is far lower. The biggest risk typically is a failure with charging systems (resulting in over charging, or failure of temperature protection circuitry) but mostly this will just ruin a LiFePO4 battery rather than pose a serious fire hazard.
I got 9kWh battery storage and 3kVA inverter charger, good for 1 day of normal domestic use, charge off peak tarrif or 600W solar array, set up as DIY
Bring back the kerosene fridge, a couple of kerosene lanterns and a load of firewood to heat some hot water. For those that may remember!
LED lights take less power than a kerosene lamp. If you run the LEDs on a generator, you get more light for the fuel consumed.
You bar-B-Q can be used to heat water and cook food.
Here is the tip. If you have a smart power metre then set it up to charge at the off-peak rate.
We lost power for 2 weeks after the horrific storm in the Dandenongs about this time last year. Some local residents were far unluckier than we were, with their time off the grid measured in months rather than days. That it happened during one of Victoria's lockdowns only added to the apocalyptic vibe.
While being fairly well-prepared in other respects (wood stove for heating the house equipped with a wetback to boost the gravity-fed HWS, gas for cooking, tank water etc), my big mistake was having previously bought a cheap generator from a supermarket chain which shall remain nameless. It, of course, failed when most needed.
Some lessons learned from the experience:
1. Candlelight loses its romance after the 2nd or 3rd night
2. Relying on power companies, local councils etc for information, let alone support, during a major incident is a recipe for disappointment - chances are, they are even less prepared than you are
3. A lot of things can be kept chilled outside in an esky, especially when the daytime temperature doesn't exceed 6 degrees
4. Equipment can and will shit the bed when you most need it. Reduce the risk by investing in decent kit
6. Test the equipment regularly
7. Low-tech and high-tech both have their place - the wood stove, relying on a simple convection loop to heat the water, didn't skip a beat, making the entire experience a bit more bearable
8. Being on good terms with your neighbours, and being able to barter, both help
I actually bought a Bluetti AC200Max last week on the strength of John's previous review. It arrived in 4 days, and I had no issues getting it to work. Very straightforward. It wouldn't get us through another incident of last year's magnitude, but I am confident it'll serve just fine for the much more probable 12-24 hour outages for which our part of Victoria is rightly famous.
I believe you can expand on the 200 max.
Next test perhaps? A bluetti setup for you home as a backup power source for say 48 hours? What would it take? And say maybe 1 or 2 solar blankets to see how much you can recover.
That kind of setup will run a caravan but isn't at all practical for a full house. The best you could hope for would be to run a fridge for a couple of days and maybe some LED lights. Anything more than that and you need a much bigger system.
My energy retailer pays me if I successfully reduce my power use during some peak periods. It's odd doing that in winter. Normally only happens in Summer.
I'd keep it simple. Run the Bluetti as a UPS on my main fridge and NBN/wifi with a LED arrangement that can make the kitchen workable. Then if needed run an appropriately placed extension cord to the lounge into a power board for TV/lap top/game station toys etc.. Bedroom can suffice on a torch. That will keep things going fine until I get home and switch the whole house over to my diesel generator via my electrician installed changeover switch.... happy days.
So I like taking my car on mountain roads and, most times, there are no shopd on the top of the mountain. I am looking forward to thw day I will buy an AC 300 just to have a good cup of tea.
Better Bya generator,just in case ?and don't forget to by some gass for the generator??
I feel like this may involve some very expensive Bluetti equipment.
I have the EB70. But for home power backup, well they're just much too expensive.
And hey, I've got a dozen Obulbs too.
Yeah spend a fortune for a couple of days of power for your fridge/freezer in reality.
The more I look into this the more I realize that it's an awful lot of money for what you get.
If you think of this in isolation for a home back up the costs seem high, but the possibilities it opens up to taking to parks and having in the car on a road trip etc are valuable and hard to quantify when your mindset is closed. It’s like working was always required in the office until you were forced to work from home. It was clunky initially cause your small business never invested or looked at solutions, now we have the flexibility this enabled me to travel and my only requirements are 4g & power. That also means I get paid even when the power goes out rather than say sorry I can’t work today, also means there is less demand or reason for me to return.
@@offroadingfoz The costs are high for what you get imo.
I don't need to work and if I can thrive without power then what do you suggest?
These things are great, imo, but they aren't a standby power system imo.
A high capacity battery and solar cells to keep it all working will cost you 5-10k here in Aust.
I can easily afford that but I struggle to justify it.
I like the idea of plugging into your EV. Rechargeable too as you drive through the wastelands.
@@offroadingfoz I can't work from home brah. And the EB70 is precisely for that, travel.
It'll do everything we need.
According to my solar app, my house uses about 4.5kwh in 24 hours while no one is home.
That seems like a lot if a fridge should only be about 1kwh a day.
I’m not sure what else would be running in the background
Some 40ish years ago, our first air-con shit itself during a heatwave, so my wife & I stripped off, sprayed water mist on each other & took turns waving towels.
I need to come up with another plan if it happens again. 😉
A battery powered fan can replace the waved towels.
@@kensmith5694 We could now, but in 1978 there weren't any battery-powered fans. 😉
@@CNile-se9xw This is an advantage to not dropping dead in 1979. You are around to see battery powered fans and use them when your arms are no longer up to flapping a towel.
The Agency is AEMO, the Australian Energy Market Operator.
In South Australia we are lucky enough to have electric Jesus battery backup system. Not sure that's a good thing I think you would agree.
It runs for 30 minutes
@@markwilkins8314 slight over simplification but yes. 100Mw for 30 minutes which is just long enough to have a gas peaker (not) start
That's why you need you own backup system
At least you don't have to listen to the South African turd vent about politics and twitter. And how many women hes abused.
$100 million for 10 minutes of power approx money well spent ??
That still baffles me. Cause a blackout to prevent a blackout. WTH. Notice businesses are never asked to turn off a few banks of lights/signs/huge TV billboards. It's always us little guys who have to suffer.
A friend's dad used to have a double ended extension to power his house from a generator during power cuts. He just had to remember to switch off the main power switch on the fuse board. Safe as!
Yes. 'Safe' is the word that springs immediately to mind.
Those things are called "suicide cords" here in the US. A common thing to do on systems is to put in an automatic changeover switch. They cost about $100 US. Usually only the important loads are on it.
They are called a Suicide cord for a very good reason
They also turn your genset into a spectacular smoke show when the power is restored
Just sayin
@@batmanlives6456 They can get you killed in other ways too. They are generally a bad idea.
@@kensmith5694 I’m an electrician in the distribution sphere …
They scare me !!!
It is Bluetti man
I have the Tesla power wall and gate way so in the case of of power cuts my solar is locked out from the grid and powers one loop in the house, and I bring the garden solar lamps in dot around the house
It's 2022, who isn't more than an arm's length away from their phone? A phone that unless it's steam powered will have a torch function
Just wait until your neighbor plugs in his fancy brand new electric car and a few blocks just go blinky blink blink in the silent cold dark for the rest of the night...
It is surprisingly unlikely for electric car charging to be the thing that brings down the grid. The chargers on them can be set to only take power at certain times etc and a lot of places are going with varying electricity prices.
The thing that is very likely to kill the grid is air conditioning and electric heating. Everybody tends to turn those on at the same time.
Do you think this would be good to carry around in my Tesla to alleviate my range anxiety?
Except then you would be draining additional energy by hauling the Bluetti around.
I would go with a 440 Chrysler. Six Packs are nice.
It's time to reap what we have sown. I have three generators and a transfer switch.
Great advice John, keep up the the great work 😀
Funny thing is not to many months ago there was reports that solar input at peak times could be turn off due to the grid being over loaded with too much power and now this has come about ?? What do you believe
Believe that the solar will be switched off and then the grid will crash and you will be safe. People actually elect politicians who say "government can't do anything right" and then expect those same politicians to not prove themselves correct.
You know both can be true right?
One sunny day you have more power than you need, clouds come over you have you have less power than you need.
Are there solutions? Sure, we just don't want to pay for them and will look the other way until it bites us in the ass. Then we'll have to admit that while renewables and can be made to look cheaper, running a reliable grid with them ends up costing more. "KWhr price at the gate" is a very small part of the story.
Losing electric hot water is quite unpleasant - mine draws over 3.5 kW when it's heating. I would also lose water pumps (potential disaster) and garage door opener. A working mobile phone is very useful - if just for wireless tethering to for the internet. PV systems with batteries really ought to be able to charge the battery without grid power.
Couple of thoughts:
1. John you often stress the importance of after sales customer service when it comes to choosing vehicles. How does Bluetti rate on after sales service?
Based on some of the forums I visit they do not have a particularly good customer service reputation but that may just be a function of reported sampling bias so it would be interesting to get a longer term view on this. I think the product is great and I have suggested it to various people (along with other similar products like the EcoFlow range) but it also needs to be backed up with great service, and these units are sadly not problem free.
2. If intending to use a Bluetti as a "permanent" UPS (e.g. say for a home server and comms system) then you are going to be load limited to the power rating of the AC charger, not the inverter's power output limit.
If the loads you are supplying are greater than the charger can supply, then the battery will drain and you'll be SOL.
For an AC 200 Max that means you won't be able to run it as a UPS for anything that sucks more than ~400 W, or 800 W if you buy a second AC charger via an adapter to get another 400 W AC charger. Solar PV in a UPS scenario is not going to be a reliable source of charge.
For the AC 300 it has a 3000 W AC charge input which provides LOT more headroom as a UPS, although to get 3000 W it would require a 15 A AC power outlet which is not very common in Aussie homes. Still even with a 10 A AC supply that would be ample for most home UPS requirements.
If your home solar shuts down in a power outage all you need is some way to disconnect it from the grid and then use a small secondary system to provide a 230V trigger to the inverter and youll be back up. The shutdown is called anti islanding, the solution is to work out what you need to do to set up that islanding.
You haven't actually done this have you? You just think it will work, it wont.
@@stusue9733 it will work. A battery off grid system can be supplemented by a grid feed system and is a common way of doing off grid when you can target your peak usage during the day. All the grid feed system requires is the 230V trigger voltage to kick back in. I suggest you do research. Off grid shop is a place to start.
@@grahampahl7100 I'll take that as a "No I haven't done it".
Strangely you didn't mention battery storage in your first comment.
If you grid system is small and your battery system is large, that MIGHT work. But I wouldn't bet much money on it.
Yes all you need to turn on a grid system is 230V, but then things get interesting and it will likely turn straight back off for a different reason.
@@stusue9733 I'm not going to continue wasting my time trying to explain to you how it can be done. It is possible and can be done. Go and have a look at the offgrid shop if you arent able to figure it out yourself, there is a UA-cam article for the hard of understanding about it. Just because I havent done it yet doesn't mean it cant be done. My experience offgrid was in the days before grid tied solar became commonplace. Correct I didnt mention battery but no you dont need a large battery as you are providing the 230V trigger which powers up the larger grid connected system which handles the main loads while the main system is generating.
@@stusue9733 here I will even chew your food for you ua-cam.com/video/5Kuq1x7_cSU/v-deo.html
Here we are in 2022 in a "First World" Country and we are talking Power Shortages. Nice one Australia..... f*cking Nice One!
Hey at least you can still get food. Our billionaires sent all ours to China to raise their stock values. Oh and thank you so much for Rupert Murdock. What the hell would we do with out him.
@@rogersmith7396 what ever you do, don’t send him back.
Ducted gas heating needs about 1Kw of mains power for the fan. Given the power loss will most likely be after Melbourne cup day, it shouldn’t be a problem.
Except if it’s that cold you need a gas heater, your wallet might get a bit lighter
John, you're promoting an expensive and luxury setup that's good for people with $$$ to play with.
Allow me to explain what I've done for only 60 Australian micropesos (Dollars)
I got a inverter (only 300 watt) with a built in charger. I then take my car's battery (I know -it's a lead acid battery and doesn't like this, but allow me to finish). This then powers the TV, satellite dish and one 240 volt led room lamp easily for the 2 hours of loadshedding (planned power failures, due to incompetence). I make sure to not drain the battery more than say 40%, and then immediately recharge the battery after the planned incompetence. Have had no problems with the battery this way, and as you say the TV, lights and phone is the most important things during a power outage. Lpg, sorts the boiling and cooking. This is basically all one needs, and 60 Australian Dollar is nothing. Even a new battery for the car costs under a 100 dollar.
Some of us have to go off grid rather cheaply. Lol.
Enjoy ☺👍
Couldn't agree more but there's another sad reality. John like most of the Dane country have learnt waiting for the government to sort out the power problem is currently a lost cause as they don't want to acknowledge the problem until it bites them.
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The power stations had to buy fuel at ridiculously inflated prices, that is why the brownouts/blackouts happened.
The suppliers of that fuel are (1) owned overseas, what to supply themselves first AND (2) trying to beat the new government into submission by shutting down supply.
This time no.2 didn't work, everyone blamed both the outgoing government for letting systems get so run down AND the mines etc for price gouging.
They will try again. Perhaps the government should let slip something about reversing all that privatization that happened, putting in Australian control, as obviously these private companies just can't handle it...
Can’t wait for the failing infrastructure aka power grid and gas supply to drop off the grid seeing as all of the governments from the past 35yrs has failed at providing upkeep and a safe supply line.
Utter crap. Government needed to do precisely zero to ensure reliable energy supply. It’s government intervention that has created the environment where no sane person would invest in reliable energy as the risk of a change in policy resulting is so high. If the government came with a constitutional amendment that said “government shall not interfere in the generation, reticulation, and retailing of electricity” we would have cheap reliable power.
Carbon Tax Cartel Gulag by the Rothschild blood suckers
Except WA apparently
@@mickloney9826 bahahaha. We'd end up exactly where the US is, where private utilities are under much less regulations than here. And they have the least reliable power grid in the developed world. Would be a boon for off-grid power system suppliers though.
you think Australia would be a powerhouse with lots of solar panels set out of the city limits supplying grid power and also on homes and business
They spend too much time in the bars.
Solar only work when the sun shines.
Here in "Murica" we are "sleep walking" into disaster. The summers are becoming brutally hot across the country , along much more violent weather year round...our vintages 60-70"s power grid is already creaking under the strain.
What is worse is that a lot of the new power equipment is crappier than the stuff from the 1970s. Look at what happened in Texas where people froze to death because the equipment failed in the cold.
People in TX need their own solar panels and batteries
@@kensmith5694 The TX. power grid was not "hardened" against temps. much below 0C as they never expected there... I agree that the equipment built built now is likely cheap as possible, lower quality stuff.
@@mdavid1955 TX has gone below 0C in the past many times. The power grid was built like a roof only designed for sunny days.
The shortage is from the power company as Thry don’t want to use all generators instead want max profit.
tip for people who use desktops a lot weather it be gamers like me or people who use it for work get a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) so you computer dont shut off even a small one to give you some time to properly save your stuff and shut down or finish an update.
I have had to watch TV by flashlight more than once in the last 10 years.
What??? Blackouts?? But how am I going to charge my electric car they said I should buy because I couldn't afford to buy gas???
What wrong with a genny, easy if own house and can get it installed right in to the fuse board. What happens if you were using your battery brick for welding and drained it, and forgot to recharge it, it a big paper weight, but if you had a genny just add more fuel and off you go, plus a high end 6 KVA will be half the price of the bluetti
Not really practical if you live in an apartment.
All part of the great reset John, the end wont be for everyone.
Hey John, as for inverter backup, for lights, fridge, TV, etc. (yeah priority right?) I got that. I put a contactor in the switchboard with an inlet 'chassis mount' plug so I can run offline via generator or inverter whenever needed. It might not be conventional but it is safe. There is no chance of back feeding or blowing up my power source since the contractor is controlled by my backup supply. I have 1kW inverter for this and it's ok for short term outages. Biggest problem is battery age/capacity/outage duration
As for phones needing to be charged, that really should be low on the priority list, like come on, do you always run your phone battery close to dead?
Cooking? How about a gas stove? Yeah you can boil water even if you can't make espresso. Well you could if you have enough power ..... Cappuccino anyone?
@Text Me On Telegram @Cadoges ok. Delivery to NZ?
Surprising John. I thought your kangaroo electrical power generating scheme was well advanced. If you can't fix the problem who can?
We recently purchased a wood burning air con.
I have a wood burning TV.
@@rogersmith7396 not far off, I could stare at a fire with a nice drink for hours...
@@LukeB83 The browns will get you.
Just great that while we export over 450 million tonnes of coal and only use 5 million tonnes ourselves that we must self flagellate and allow our less well off people to suffer in the cold and heat and to die in some cases this year , right now in Australia for fear of not being able to pay the bill ,and cause our middle class to live a poorer and harder life. All because climate change zealots , in the minority , wish death upon these people right now to somehow save some person in the long long future. It’s Stalin and Mao and Hitler all over disguised as green but red with blood.
Bloody Watermelons 🍉
So you've marched into Checkoslavakia? I'm confused.
Blame scomo privatising everything...
Wa power is still nice and cheap cause they have a clause they need to keep what they need before selling it overseas then buying it back again😂..
Thank fuck he got the boot or medicare would of been next he didnt up the bulk bill price so no doctors are prepared to even serve there patients anymore cause they are loosing money...
I wouldnt bother buying a 10k bluetti system when a petrol or diesle genertor will do the job for fuck all..old mr cadagin is gettibg payed to much for these half hour adverts its sickening
@@rogersmith7396 The Greens Party actions are akin to a communist party. They dictate their ideologies without thinking about the consequences.
A lady I know is named Etty, I'd be mighty worried if she turned blue.
Oh no.... Think of the E V's
But it will not go downto -30C down there. Three dogs are enuff to stay warm.
I’m not afraid of the dark, just what’s in it
But how will I charge my EV?
The national grid was the vision of Paul Keating, I know I was 1 of those arseholes that was there at the time.
7kva diesel generator, there done.
Long power outages in cities allow criminals and lesser ones free supplies when retailers close. People revert to their primal state to survive
I just bring the fire pit in from out side throw on a few logs & a sprinkle of petrol on it & throw on a match then turn to the wife & say let there be light.😁🤣😇🤠🤓
It's a major point if concern that Ii've been increasingly worried about as the previous government and the current one have no plans to replace the ageing power stations and no solar and wind power will not be enough to meet the energy requirements. The current energy minister is talking about transferring power from other states and this when you factor in transmission line losses seems to be a another burying the head in the sand mentality which continues to push the concern that all the government concerns and policies are going to look pretty stupid when the lights start going out as John is mentioning. Scary times until the government takes the reigns again and it's more not being able to have a means to stop the food going off when the power supply stops.
Australia has more than enough sun and wind to supply all of its energy needs. It will cost money to make a grid that works well into the future so it won't happen. I not happening is not because it can't be done.
@@kensmith5694 sun and wind are not the solution, only part of it. A power grid needs a form of base load to produce electricity during peak consumption periods. The only forms of power generation that can do that is coal/gas fired power generation, nuclear and hydro power stations. Batteries is another option but not feasible.
@@tomnewham1269 Batteries are now feasible. The zinc flow batteries and the like have advanced a lot lately.
You should leave Chas Darwin to his own devices and not give out spoiler alerts on bringing Gassy Gen inside
I had the obviously false belief that the "Service Charge" we pay is for the provision of a service, not the too hard to provide service. If they charge for a service they should be able to provide as much power as the paying public wants to pay them for, per unit cost. If they cannot provide the service, they should spend the service charge on increasing their output, not pandering to Greenies (called 'Ash Wednesday Causers' in my house) and do what they are paid to do, namely, manage resources to the benefit of the payer. I am so glad W.A. is free of the eastern seaboard cartel screwing you over, no not your governments, your privatised businesses.
So you've never bought internet or cable TV? The service they provide is just "Suggested". The money they demand is not.
Key word is " Peak period " guy's, that's what the man is saying. I do agree Bluetti is a little over priced ( huge ) but please keep it in context.
Let me guess, australian electricity is also made in Ukraine ?
Like absolutely (and surprisingly) almost everything sold in Yurop…
The price of Ukrainian mail order bride has gone through the roof, i have to keep them alive in my dungeon for weeks instead of replacing them on a monthly basis. (They are a bit too roughed up for resale when I’m done with them)
I hear theres a going out of business sale on Ukrainian brides.
When you described the AC200 you said two point oh four eight, I assume you intended to say two point zero four eight. O is a letter, 0 is a numeral, sure they look similar, but we don't say I every time we see the numeral 1.
Just saying.... (yes that is 4, not three, I know how much that shits you, now we are square)
How about the politicians get up and repair those lines….switch on solar grid feed! 💪🏼⚡️
John
Top tip for a bit of marketing even though it’s not my area
2 1/2 grand for one of these portable batteries banks is a bit of dough at the best of times
and with the economy right now it’s even more so……..
That however does not negate the need it just pushes it down the shopping list a bit
If these people want to sell them I reckon they’re just gonna have to offer interest free finance
500 bucks down the other two grand over 12 months something like that………
Your commission comes out of the 500 of course..
DUUUUUUUDE
It's the 2020s. Of course we can expect the worse. It's the characteristic of the decade.
You can go out switch your mains fuse off plug your blue spaghetti into a wall socket male to male plug you have to make, and you don't have to plug anything else..... You our whole house won't know power is out....when U notice power is back on in the street. turn off spaghetti unit..... then put your main back on ....now watch every one complain how dangerous it is
Weren't the power producers sold off to private enterprise to pay out government debt and thus isn't up to those producers and others to put on more power. Think QLD is the only government owned producers of power - even then its not enough capacity. We have too many coal power stations going off line to be decommissioned due to lack of interest in replacing/repairing them and not enough work done in building base load power or storage. I like your idea of F the EV car and spend the differential on batteries/solar as being a better contribution to the environment situation.
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Reminds me of the saying... What did Zimbabweans use for illumination before candles ... electricity! How did Australia come to this? Shameful
How? By voting for politicians who told them they could have their CO2 cake and eat it too. The same politicians who promised they could provide high speed internet at half the price by using the up to a century old copper cables instead of doing it properly which ended up costing far more for only a marginal improvement on ADSL...if you're lucky.
Now the 9 year, head in the sand, lack of planning has come to bite us all on the bum.
Wonder if Aussie will go Gen 4 nuke…
Just hook up to all those subs.
@@rogersmith7396 I don’t imagine a few tens of Mw will help
@@tigertiger1699 More subs. Maybe a few aircraft carriers. Think big.
I urge everyone to get their shit together because the electric grid is set to fail more regularly.
In South Aus, we've experienced more brown & blackouts since the system became privatised than I can recall in my 71 years.
In the old days, teams of men metered loads in the system so that equipment could be upgraded before it reached its limits. The supply was maintained to almost everyone in the area as the upgrades were planned, prepared for & scheduled. That's not done anymore. It's a replace on failure approach now, which means that you can expect long outages.
In winter, it's all good for those with gas appliances. They'll be able to heat their homes & cook, though be warned, gas pressure may fall due to the demand on the system.
Electric-only homes aren't so lucky. They'll be eating cold food unless Dad braves the weather & stokes up the barbie while everyone freezes.
The common element for all homes is they'll be in darkness if they're not prepared & Cado covered that nicely in the vid.
Having a good stock of fleecy leisure outfits would be handy & I'd suggest wearing them in winter if not expecting visitors, it'll save heaps n your heating bills.
Lots of hate in the comments for Bluetti. Many to do with price. There are cheaper alternatives. The other thing overlooked is Labor costs. Compared to paying someone to hard wire a system into your house or vehicle, these units save heaps on installation as it costs nothing to install. This also means it's yours to take with you anywhere. The same can't be said for hard wired systems.
In a proper black out. Say for 3 weeks like Rockhampton had after the last cyclone, these systems would beat anything.
Where can you (and every other desperate bastard) go to buy more gas or petrol if there's no electricity? Civilization breaks down bloody fast in this situation and you will be better off at home.
wow now your doing commercials
Sort of like Enron but without the prison sentences unfortunately
Burn that coal baby. Smoke baby smoke.
Sorry JC, just feel passionately about this
who started this problem that's the question
So a couple of torches and a camping stove will cost a shit load less.
Are you expecting the power to be out for days?
Some sort of rolling blackout should reduce the blackouts to a few hours.
What about a BYD Atto 3, 60 Kw battery and about 2Kw of vehicle to load.
The rumours go it has a range in the order of 400Km and the front seats are quite comfortable.
It is cheaper than a Tesla as well.
Or is the power being out for a few hours a first world problem?
It really screws with your capochino time.
You want more than a couple of torches. You want every person to have one plus a couple extra. Most of them need not be very bright but do need a long run time. Safely getting around the house at night is a priority.