'Shows were being approached': The 'extraordinary' response to the Maynard hit - Footy Classified
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- The Footy Classified panel dives into the Brayden Maynard tribunal outcome and the fallout from a big week in the footy world.
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AFL: jumping smoothers look pretty unsafe.
Also AFL: flying knees to the head going for a mark, completely ok 👍👍
that's gonna be a difficult issue moving forward.. we've see a lot of bad injuries result from speccies
That’s the issue right there. When was the last time you saw a smother attempt with that much force that essentially turned Maynard into a human missile.
Show me other examples/precedent.
It’s all well to talk out of your @ss, but put your money where your mouth is!
You don’t have to play at the highest level to know that this wasn’t what we were taught as juniors when it comes to making a smother.
AFL try to ignore brain damage from foul play....esp. if Collingwood players are involved
"Flying knees to the head"
That's 100% on the player going for the mark. They could go "lightly" or very deliberately ram their knee into the human step ladder in front of them. Absolutely. I can still remember a Melbourne player coping a brutal and obviously deliberate full blown knee to the back of the skull. The opponent responsible is a scumbag. In UFC a Flying knee has ended many a fight. There is a difference between pulling a Gary Ablett or using a UFC move, and it obvious to anyone watching. Even the Wiz, Warwick Capper just sat on shoulders. Never saw him thru a knee. Or Ablett snr but did see Ablett lay blokes out with a hip and shoulder or bump ... but he wasn't kneeing guys in the head, just sitting on their shoulders
I swear to god people are brain dead. It's not the smother that was the problem. It was the shoulder to the head. My mind is blown how he got off
Tasteless how much personal animosity was publicly aired this week. Caro talking about flowers and wine- that's soap opera stuff the footy public doesn't need to know about. Melbourne's carry-on reminded me of the Petty-Zorko incident last year- lots of selective moral grandstanding from that club. Hope Brayshaw makes a full recovery.
Obvious (but unwelcome) question: If you have a concussion history like Brayshaw's and given the serious cumulative effect of concussions, should you be playing a collision sport, like AFL, at all? Does Brayshaw have a duty of care towards himself?
They refuse to have this conversation because it involves the "victim" taking responsibility for his own actions. Fact of the matter is Maynard is not responsible for the health of Angus Brayshaw, and Brayshaw went into that game knowing the risks.
There will come a time in the not too distant future that the AFL (as well as the NRL and other contact sports associations) will intervene and medically retire players who have a bad history of concussions to ensure they can't be accused of negligence. You can't insure against negligence. They can't rely on the players or clubs making sensible decisions.
Exactly. Patty McCartin should never have been given the all clear to plat again. Look how he went out again.
The "neurosurgeon" who approved him to return should face some seriously tough scrutiny.
I think pretty soon, the league will create a rule where they or a club can medically retire players for repeat concussion
This is the worst case of victim blaming I've seen hahahahaha
As a lifelong Demons supporter I'm filthy with how the club has handled this issue, too many leaks, no one was tough enough on the night to stand up for Viney, but want to get our knickers in a knot all of a sudden? Toughen the fluff up and win a game of finals for once. No one sticks up for Gawn when the Port players always push him around. Ed Langdon got swarmed on from Pies last year and no one lifted a finger.
Petty in tears against Brisbane, the club bar Viney are a bunch of princesses and it's shameful.
viney started the fight tf you mean 😂
You don't sound like a demon supporter. If you were, you would be up in arms like the rest of us
@@justmessingMaynard started the fight by knocking out Brayshaw.
@@paulchamberlain8355 Dermott Brereton on AFL 360 just now said there's a belief that we have a soft underbelly, because of how Port treat Gawn, that we don't have any nasty players in September other than Viney, and that teams will keep doing this to us. Case closed.
As a demon as well, its hard to disagree lol if we had knocked out a pie, it would have been a royal rumble on the field. Our club culture and togetherness is as weak as st kilda's
Goodness me. It was an unfortunate incident that happened within the rules of the game. Bring on the remaining finals.
Where was Caro???? I wanted her on to continue her hysterical rant while Ed was on the show 😂
Careful using the h word these days mate that’s sexism
😂😂 me too!
@@RyanQuinn0397 which one “hysterical” or “her” 😂😂
@@sam47511 both, of course
Goodwin is like every other coach/fan/supporter - we all love to twist incidents that negatively impact on our club in a way to lessen the impact. We all love to make excuses for our club, and want the book thrown at anyone who transgresses our club. So, it basically means that none of us can comment without a truckload of bias one way or the other.
He’s the biggest hypocrite in football!
What twist did Goodwin put on?
Answer me this: when was the last time you saw a smother attempt turn the player without the ball into a human missile?
Every m0ron like you I posed this question to either ignored me or called me a bias. 🤡🤦♂️
Fact of the matter is, Maynard is a thug. You don’t smother in such a fashion. It’s not normal.
To even call this a smother attempt or a fOoTbAlL aCtIoN is straight up false and extremely condescending.
Not that hard to not be bias, basic intelligence allows for it. 🤦♂️
@@Harry.89 Basic intelligence would allow you to see that most people are incapable of being unbiased. If you are able to, I'd suggest you are in the minority. Good for you 👍
@@cbgg1585 What team do you support legend? I suggest you are so deep in your anti-Collingwood bias that you can't think straight. If Maynard was on your team and did the same thing I guarantee you everything would be A-ok in your eyes.
Toby Greene would have got 6 weeks
Toby gets 6 for breathing
He doesn't have Eddie in his corner.
Last year maybe, he’s the golden child now
@@trikkimick Yep All Aust Captain
@@Dieselpower24Eddie wasn’t in he’s crn ya muppet Ed ain’t at the club ya nuffy
definitely no bias here
If you look up the word bias in the dictionary there just a picture of Eddie.
I find Goodwin to be one of the worst offenders for being two faced in press conferences - this compared to van Rouyen, and look at all the Grundy stuff.
I know a coach always defends his players, but van Rouyen's is more likely to cause injury than Maynard's ever was.
I forgot about the Charlie Ballard incident. And not a word from them about van Rooyen deliberately going for McStay’s head
Goodwin: "Maynard almost started a genocide"
Goodwin: "Van Rooyen saved 19 kids from a fire"
@@SkyrimChicken😂
@@SkyrimChicken 😂 well said
Can't stand Collingwood but we have to call it as it is per the incident. Justice was done for football.
You better sit down then.
Amen
You can see the leaking/media propositioning on a person like Gerard Whateley. When he calls the the game, he says it’s an accident. Then his position starts to change so it’s more in line with the AFL’s case. He’s doing PR and running their case for them in the media, countering defence arguments and even making comments that look like they came from the Brayshaw camp. Then when the decision comes out he tries to save face and agrees with the decision.
On sen footy a guy called up and was talking about how some commentator's said Maynard should of opened his arms and went face first. The caller pointed out the truth with how that is way more dangerous and could have potentially ended like a serious car accident would. Fractured sculls ect. Gerard went on to try to gass light and guilt trip the caller saying how could he say such a thing how could it have been worse. A guy was knocked out for 2 minutes basically saying how dare you to the poor guy making a valid point 😂😂. It was embarrassingly bad and obvious. They definitely do have specific agendas/narratives they have to stick to.
Melbourne clearly think Maynard knew exactly what he was doing.
He knew exactly what he was he was doing. Should have been suspended. What a joke.
I've done the exact same action before and it was deliberate. Albeit, I didn't knock someone out. Just knocked the opponent over.
I think he knew what he was doing but within the rules of the game it was line ball and he got away with it
They were in two different parallel lanes coming at each other Brayshaw changed lane into Maynards.
I see no difference between what Maynard did and what someone who goes to bump someone and accidently gets then high. Both are accident buts there should be a suspension
If found guilty due to a lack of duty of care, what happens when a player puts his knee in the back of a players head to take a mark.
There was footage of Brayshaw doing laps yesterday. Dont tell me the AFL care about concussions if thats the case. I know its a different sport but if you get knocked out in boxing/MMA, You arent allowed to train for weeks, sometimes months
The brain would do a fair bit of bouncing around even in running wouldn't it? I was very surprised when I heard he was running.
Boxing/MMA is completely different - they receive heaps of blows to the head in a short amount of time, both in training and in competition.
You can still have concussion without being knocked out, not to mention delayed concussion, where it may take days or even weeks before they show symptoms.
So i dont think its a fair comparison. In my opinion, players should already understand that concussion is a risk of playing a contact sport and accidents are going to happen, so i think the AFL just needs to make them sign a liability waiver. If they dont sign it, then they don't play, simple.
He even looked like he drove to training 😂😂 how the f is that allowed
Angus Brayshaw has had serious concussions over the last 6 years why isn’t his family and team held accountable for letting him play the game when clearly he shouldn’t be
Ah yes, Brayshaw caused this. Poor Maynard. Somebody buy him some flowers, quick.
Yes From that stand point , can he play
Again no , He is Finshed , but it his Decision
As it been for the last 6 Years , so if he plays
On , who is going to get the Blame if he gets
Knocked out again he clearly should not play on ,
@@AJHornet1 so I’m not a Collingwood supporter I’m an AFL supporter to be clear. I’m just saying some players shouldn’t be playing the game if susceptible to head knocks.
Simon Goodwin should be cited for his comments
Anyone but a Collingwood player would have got three weeks and been hung in the media before the tribunal even convened.Maynard chose to turn his shoulder into Bradshaw to make contact when he could have turned away. Michael Christian should be removed by the AFL as he clearly is unable to carry out his duties without bias.
Make the players sign a waiver saying they understand the risk of concussion/ injury and that they can't hold the AFL liable.
These rule changes have been destroying the game and if it keeps going like this we are going to end up with playing touch-tackle footy.
We are continually told the head must be protected - except when the head doesn't matter.
What about a high marking contest and knee in the back of the head? Outlaw the high mark? report a player for lacking a duty of care even if they take mark of the year? The head does matter outside of a football action. Bump someone and they collide with another player and they bang heads? Get reported? Outlaw any contact?
Pretending to care about the head, and using a strawman argument, to disguise the Collingwood hate. They do care about the head, hence the concussion protocols and changing of rules on tackling, the same rules you complain about?
If angus had an enormous neck goitre like eddie, it would have protected him from bruz putting him into retirement.
Eddie has more chins than a Chinese phone book.
When I was a little kid we were having a kick of the footy, a teacher came barrelling through straight at me. I walked away unhurt, the teacher was out cold, got taken away in an ambulance. Players need to know how to protect themselves in this situation.
If you had a brain like Eddie you might be relevant
@@brucejensen3081 When was this? 1923?
@@xpacnwo2000 1986
Brayshaw contributed greatly to this incident. He chose to bounce the ball while running toward the goals. Maynard had already left his man and was running toward him to pressure him to kick the ball. But Brayshaw tried to get every possible foot forward. Maynard couldn't shirt-front him. He was too late to tackle. The only footy decision he could make was to try to smother the ball even though a lower kick might mean he collected the ball in his head. The AFL in reporting him were saying he should have avoided contact by not jumping. This WOULD change the fabric of the game and make it like basketball where you have to avoid contact. Because it was Brayshaw who was knocked out his major role in causing the contact is being ignored.
Hope Maynard sues Smith for defamation
What an outrageous comment and then published.
If you look carefully you can see Barrett giving Eddie a handy under the table.
Well he wants to keep his job
Tricky for him to do that whilst simultaneously sticking pins into his hawthorn doll
Walk on peanuts
The way things are headed, with rule changes every other day the sport will end up just being touch football!
permanent brain damage is not worth it for playing a game, for doing a job. its not your chair bound fat ass risking brain damage at your job, so stfu. the afl and clubs have a duty of care both to their employees, both legally and morally. any head high contact should be punished
This line comes up every year, yet the game is as fast and tough as it’s ever been. We don’t need sling tackles or bumps to the head. They add nothing to the game, but are an awful cost for players post career.
Just give the line a rest. The notion is just rubbish.
@@AJHornet1you couldn't be more wrong
What about a high marking contest and knee in the back of the head? Outlaw the high mark? report a player for lacking a duty of care even if they take mark of the year? The head does matter outside of a football action. Bump someone and they collide with another player and they bang heads? Get reported? Outlaw any contact? Accidental and no intention to hurt anyone.
Exactly, if protect the head at all costs is the goal then all contact should be outlawed. This is why they need to let footy collisions and accidental contact go.
Mark of the year if the perfect representation of being rewarded for giving someone a concussion.
Don't give a mate a kiss on the cheek though, you'll cop 3 weeks
just dont make contact with the head.
Jumping on an opponents head in a marking contest has always been a part of the game. They stopped players being allowed to shirt front one another, which is what that weak dog did
@@paulchamberlain8355 That wasn't a shirt front and shirt front had always been a part of footy until it was outlawed, if protects the head at all costs even from accide tal contact is what AFL want then higg marking nedds to be banned too if AFL are consistent.
bloke was one headknock away from not playing again regardless of how it happened. Cant blame Maynard for that, reminds me of brad ebert, he was one knock away from not playing ever again, in the end he went out playing the way he did, back with the flight to spoil and knocked his head on the turf. Could have easily been a headknock from anything. Would not have been dissapointed if he pulled the pin before that happened. If your playing with 1 hit away from serious health problems or ending your career, thats on you.
Lmao, are you a m0ron? I am still yet to get an answer to this question without being labeled a “bias”.
WHEN, IF EVER have you seen a smother attempt turn the player without the ball into a human missile?
A smother doesn’t involve you launching yourself towards the kicker at full force.
Maynard is a thug looking to hurt. We all got conned into thinking it was a legitimate “football action”
100% onus on Maynard. This victim blaming is seriously idiotic
Gee, it's almost as though Maynard targeted Brayshaw because he was perceived to be the most vulnerable on the field, and the easiest to take out of the finals...
That's hilarious if you really think that was the case. They both played together in U18s and are good friends outside footy, but you can have your own opinion...🤷♂@@belindahoare3748
@@belindahoare3748 Brayshaw was running towards him and Maynard was the defender
Maynard's attempt was unrealistic, he was never going to get anywhere near the ball. He left the ground, he hit the player head high and ko'd him. These three things meet the criteria for 3 week ban. Pure and simple
I have a feeling this woman in charge is going to absolutely decimate this sport.
lmao the double standards from Goodwin
His player got a week… Maynard got off for knocking someone out for 2 minutes. It doesn’t matter if he has double standards the afl tribunal has double standards is the way bigger issue.
@@pepenips5095 so a footy accident is the same as lifting your elbow to collect someone flush on the jaw? Which if Toby Greene did he'd be out for 6 weeks. Right, now we see your bias. Please stop commenting.
@@arty5034 I wasn’t talking about the one in the final I was talking about Goodwin was discussing in the clippers they played and what this original post was about… I think you are too hot headed and have shown your bias that you can’t even understand what we are talking about
@@arty5034spot on mate
I’ve lost so much respect for Melbourne, Goodwin and anyone related. Hope they go out in straight sets.
100%
You are right again.
Stop it, ya making them look stupid.
I want them to win one more week and then loose. Purely because they will have a slightly more weaker draft picks.
A thug knocks out a gun player and you are having a crack at the coach for supporting his player. Typical Collingwood supporter.
@@petersanders2815 Ha ha, they showed vision of Goodwin doing exactly the same thing earlier this year for his player. Get over your anti-Collingwood bias, it's blinding you to reality. And don't even mention when Pickett jumped and took out Smith. Goodwin remarkably silent then, "nothing to see here".
jeez Goodwin is a contradictory flog
Eddie's bias on all things Collingwoods (this and previous comments on the show) makes him so insufferable.
Pretty poor how the rest of the panel don't have the guts to call him out on it.
And dude you are a Collingwood hater that's all dude lololololol
Yep , don't make an enemy of Eddie , he's always been a snarky and vindictive flog .
Cry
How will you survive the next 3 weeks Ha ha
It's because he is right.
Based on those clips, Simon Goodwin is clearly talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Melbourne better gather themselves and focus on Carlton.
Yeah dude the dopey coach will be found out by a resurgent scumbaggers team Friday night. Daisy Dees should get rid of dopey goody.
Should all serious injuries in football involving opposition players be refered to the tribunal . Eg a player landing on an opponents. Leg or neck causing a serious career ending injury. Or a player taking a high mark and causing an opponent to loss a kidney. The actions really need to be looked at in context,as players would be aware that in football the risk of injuries and serious ones is very real . The choice to play AFL needs to done knowing and knowing the serious risks
It was careless. If care was shown, Brayshaw wouldn’t of been concussed. By the guidelines, it shouldve been 3 weeks! Spare me this ‘accidental’ crap, that doesn’t matter, it was careless! He only got off because its the finals, simple as that.
I'm a Pies fan and not surprisingly I think they were right to let him off however if the AFL is serious about player welfare they need to start exploring every possible scenario where head high contact can occur and state their position on it. These sorts of incidents occur every year. Carlton fans might want to reflect on Cripps hit last year. He didn't get off because he was found innocent, he got off because they got a QC to argue the AFL procedure wasn't followed correctly at the tribunal. Every club has had incidents like this in the past and will continue to do so. As others have pointed out a knee to the back of the head has caused concussions so if you choose to lift the knee in a marking contest it's only logical that you "chose to do it" therefore you're responsible for the injury. Where it's going to end I don't know.
AFL have always had different rules depending on the player or club. For example Swans players are always cleared (1996, 2005, 2013, 2023) and players like Joel Selwood or Toby Greene are not.
Barrett and McGuire. Seriously they make me sick. They don't own the game. Admittedly Maynard shouldn't have gone through this for nothing. But shut up Eddie and let it go. To me this was the right decision.
@@tony-bi1hjSo you agree with the people who you're telling to let it go. Moron
Always has been a decision in the background on who the player is and what club that decides if they get suspended.
A classic example of entrenched management at the AFL. Michael Christian isn't truly independent to make decisions without the meddling of the AFL Board.
I rarely agree with Eddie, but actually think he is very sensible on this. We should really have a substantial, informed review of how these things are handled and then figure out whether certain actions need to be removed from the game, along appropriate structures, protocols and supports to compliment the 'known and accepted risk' approach. Saying a player should just individually call it quits is very easy when its no your dreams and potentially millions of dollars of income on the line.
I am not suggesting any firm view of the right approach here, but better to have the discussion at a fixed time rather than dragging it out over years or decades.
Lloydy just nails it every time
AFL has a credibility problem when it comes to player safety. In similar charge down issues Rugby League and Union place an onus on the charge down player not collecting the player in possession after he kicks the ball, especially in the head. Go for an ambitious smother or charge down (ie jump forward and off the ground), but risk a yellow or red card and suspension if you dangerously collect or knock the player out. Without a sin bin or send off function the AFL can only send the safety message via suspension.
Really surprised this is the only time I've heard this since it happened.
Why is Smith so fired up?! He should keep his trap shut because he seems a bit emotional as well as ill-informed, take his $mill and a half payout and go back to where he came from!
If this was Dustin Martin there's no conversation at all. Different rules for different players.
The most pathetic attempt ive ever seen at a smother. Knocked a player out in the process by planting his shoulder into Brayshaw's head. A shoulder to the head is against the rules. I dont understand how Maynard got off
Suck it up Princess
@@Cookie-hg4xb you'd know all about sucking
The beginning of the end!
Laura Kane is off to an abysmal start. It just shows how much of a clown show Gill and his club are
VFL's Collingwood Classified.
The last couple minutes of this make me fear the future of the game. Anyone talking about getting rid of tackling or bumps or taking speckies needs a bullet
5:00 Why did Lloyd give even more air to Shaun Smiths comments saying how inflammatory they are? ... in a segment talking about how the media are over-playing the inflammatory remarks.
Collingwood classified. 15+ minutes on them, even showing Eddie celebrating. get off yourselfs!
I don’t think Damo understands the term “changing the fabric of the game” Can we please remove people the incompetent ‘football people’ from panels.
I think peoples perspectives change depending on which team they support. Wonder what Collingwood would say if Steven May poleaxed Scott Pendlebury? Or Carlton if it was to Sam Walsh etc...
Some would've cried but reasonable fans would see the facts. Cwood fan here and if it happened on Pendles I'd be the first to say no issue. Football act 100%. Do wonder if this now gets exploited? Clearly Maynard was trying for the ball only but this could be utilised deliberately now? Slippery slope
@@LaShYz1I want you to somehow try and explain how a shoulder to the head is a football act.
@@stevelozevski8151 sorry mate I'm unable to solve stupidity, good luck though
@@LaShYz1 thought so buddy. A shoulder to the head is now a footy act 🤦
If Maynard was on their team, they’d be defending him. Their moral grandstanding and outrage is so transparent lol
It's time for AFL clubs to form a breakaway competition away from the elites trying to take everything out of the game
Except the AFL owns the names, mascots, rights to major grounds, Docklands Stadium, some of the club's. The AFL is well set up to prevent just that.
The big thing here is the AFL unequivocally needs to come out and outline what is a the duty of care. The consistency of the tribunal this year is an absolute disgrace, if you look at 3 week ban handed down to in think it was Shane MacAdams bump early in the year. Yes forceful front on contact was made it believe the impact was to the chest and it was the actual force of the contact that created the significant whiplash motion that actually led to the concussion as apposed to direct head contact. Now this action is also with in the rules of game yet we see a 3 week ban handed down for rough conduct, on an incident that is with in the rules of the game because of the result of the hit not the actual hit itself, so why is this any different. Both players concussed both players performing a football act and the one who gets off makes contact directly with the head with the shoulder, can we just get some consistency so we can understand what is actually going on because right now it looks like if you belong to the big 4 clubs in Melbourne you are treated 1 way and the rest is another and it gose back as far as Patrick Crips getting off to win a brownlow last year how the AFL got that so wrong is still a mystery to many.
Carlton lawyers suited up for Cripps brownlow
Writing an essay about two incidents that are completely different is so wild 😂😂😂😂😂
No same same both football acts within rules of game was the point. not the acts themselves smother, bump are obviously inherently diffrent. But thank you for reading and the curtisy of leaving such an insightful comment such deep thought went into it.
Seems like the head knock a few minutes earlier was totally ignored, and Brayshaw did it himself..
I’d love to ‘fair bump’ Eddie McGuire.
Ah Haaagh !!,,,,He'd Most Probably Knock You Out!
Ridiculous, let's see how Eddie reacts when a Collingwood player gets flattened
As much as I don’t like Eddie, he didn’t shout ridiculous comments when Nick Daicos got injured in a football accident. Some idiots suggested the Hawthorn player deliberately hit him.
BOO HOO N-NUMBY!!!
Really depends how the player gets flattened. Clean and fair, no worries accidents happy
If the other party is so easily offended or so concerned about head knocks should they be out on the field.
When did a pen become a prop for every AFL TV presenter 😅😅😅
Why not just rule that if you cause a player to be ko'd, regardless of the situation, whether it be accidental, deliberate, negligent, reckless or a sheer fluke or even in a marking contest, you are liable? No grey areas there.
Thats soft
Then no one will play
Im a Collingwood fan, but since Eddie is now a journalist/analyst he MUST be unbiased, and raving like that in public is unacceptable
It's fine mate, he's allowed to show joy and celebrate.
Imagine how different turkey neck ed's and all the collingwood nuffies tune would have been had it been Toby Greene doing this to Nick Daicos.
@@joelbattiston1139 year 9 footballers aren't scared of Nick Daicos.
😂😂😂😂 seriously you should get down Casey fields where the rest of the lunatics are talking based on emotions.
This was a football accident nothing more. The one thing I do know that if it was Daicos injured and let's say Vineyard's was the guy in Maynard's shoes, the hysterics wouldn't have been anywhere near the levels seen in the last 6 days.
Last time I saw this level of faux outrage was when DeGoey got banned for 3 weeks......
@@TAW856 Collingwood nuffie alert.
most of the leaking came from collingwood desperately trying to make maynard look better though
the leaking was from the AFL and Melbourne/Brayshaw camp, desperately trying to get Maynard suspended
One piece of proof to back that statement?
How can you make a defence case within 24 hours? Or a prosecution case? I’m all for getting it done quickly, but 24 hours? He’s having a laugh
Youre reviewing 30 seconds of footage for an incident. If a good lawyer can't put together a case for the tribunal in 24 hours then they would need to find another profession.
Eddie's celebrations is so embarrassing. He never thinks about anybody but himself. There's a player, his family and friends who are hurting from the incident. Soft pies from Barrett with no follow up questions
Carry on champ
Why is a Feminist Netballers in charge of the AFL. Oh well she’s the same as the former head, on his knees Gillon the twitcher. They’re trying to remove all the manliness of this great game and turn it into little Alan Joyce’s fantasy.
She’s played football. I can understand their positioning because of the lawsuits they’re facing, but it’s still wrong
@@imalwaysrighthow could she have played WAFL the game has been going for only a few years.
I actually don’t like the Pies but this was an accident contributed to by Angus continuing to run straight ahead towards Maynard.
They want to sanitise the game and make it feminine.
So are they now going to suspend players that accidentally knock out their teammates like with the Crows and Cats. This is ridiculous.
@@Kauss919you can make valid arguments without the “feminine” digs. It was her, Dillon, and Gil that overruled MRO. I agree with Maynard verdict. It should never have gone to the Tribunal, but I can understand why they did because of the lawsuits by ex players. But they’re also grandstanding, because the game is inherently dangerous and can’t be played without risk of injury, and they’re not going to sacrifice the entertainment factor, like a player taking screamer. A person flying for a mark could knock someone’s head off and it does happen! They want it both ways.
@@imalwaysright it’s a free country and I’ll dig wherever I like. Dillon and Gillon win first prize for Netball games played and their uniforms.
I was an Arborist for 30 years and was injured several times including concussion, why did I do it, because I liked the money.
I earned 5 times the average salary so I accepted that my job was the second most dangerous job in the world and I can’t sue or complain after I’ve now retired.
If you have a history with concussions, then you shouldn't be allowed to play at a professional level. Simple, easy. And there should be a concussion limit for every player. Say 3 serious concussions and you'll be forced to retire or something rather than keep stacking new stupid rules and making our game more timid and weak. With Brayshaw's history of concussions why aren't we asking the question of whether he should even be playing at all? The man has had 5 or more in his 8 year career and that's just not normal. Look at Scott Pendlebury for example. I don't think that guy has ever had a single concussion in his entire 17-year professional career (could be wrong)
Melbourne are going to lose to Carlton. The comments coming out of that club in relation to this incident are petty and pathetic. Simon Goodwin is an absolute disgrace and an embarrassment.
The AFL will become like Gaelic Football in the not too distant future.
As for the particular incident, humans can't control their trajectory in flight, unless they gyrate their limbs, which did not occur in this case. What may need to be introduced is that if a player is forced from the ground due to injury from a collision, then innocent or guilty, the 'offending' player leaves the field for the same duration. (Obviously, any such rule would need refinement, and so forth.)
I get it but it's still such an elitist view. Maynard has done nothing wrong, no ill intent simply making a play. Not truly fair for him to leave the ground over an accident.
@@frustralia4293 Yes, Maynard had no malice, and Brayshaw has an unfortunate history of concussion. But, I fear the game is doomed to become Gaelic unless other rules are introduced to calm things down. Otherwise, it is only a matter of years before they ban all contact to the head.
@@electronwave4551with Brayshaws history of concussions, he should've taken the appropriate duty of care to himself and leave the game behind. It may not be what he wants but its a contact sport and there is a lot of life left after football.
The medical staff should be recommending that continuing to play is unsafe and the club should find an alternative role so he can still be around footy
@@mentalosrs3076 I agree, but the trend seems near-unstoppable, driven by influencers.
Former West Coast Adrian Barich, and former Docker Matthew Pavlich, during their respective stints reporting on the AFL on Perth TV, judged Maynard guilty per the head contact 'rules'. And not to forget Caroline Wilson's effort on Footy Classified, which was a shocker.
Ironically, the outcome of this probably depends on Brayshaw. If he hangs up his footy boots during the off-season, the game will be substantially altered within 5 years. If he continues, within 10.
@@electronwave4551 Marcus Adams retired this year with ongoing concussion issues. Brayshaw should've hung up the boots long ago. There is an inherent risk involved with this game that every person should be made aware of at an early age. Continuing into the highest level of competition, every player has accepted the risks.
*This is about to get long winded*
I agree with the minor changes that have been made to protect a players head (dangerous tackling, high tackling). A deterent has already been put in place to stop players intentionally going for the head.
The AFL could also follow the likes of the NFL and pay their players enough, that should an unfortunate injury occur that causes a player to retire early or worse, suffer life long consequences, the pay reflects the risks. Buddy set a record being offered a $10 million 10 year contract at Sydney, yet Nick Bosa just received a 5 year $170 million contract extension with the 49ers. I would argue that the risk of buddy suffering a career ending concussion would be much higher than Bosa's yet the pay isn't even marginally close.
If the AFL being a multi billion dollar company can't financially support their players, they should be looking more as to how they can increase revenue, not making the game so soft it barely resembles competition.
Simon goodwin has embarrassed himself here.
It shows the PC level when we all know it was a football act so why is it taken to the tribunal? What happened to judgment calls? Mick Christian made the right call. Period! Gil and that new bird play the woke political card everytime
Woke Damo "i dont understand what affecting the fabric of the game means"
He's always pushing for the softest course of action
Laura Kane, always proving that 2 KFC buger boxes are better than one.
Head on contact shouldn't be allowed in any motion
This all goes away when Carlton shuts this team up
Imagine driving straight into an oncoming truck during a shuttle flow and then trying to charge the truck drive4 😂
The issue here is maynard made conscious decision to bump mid air. Soon as you tuck that shoulder in and brace its a bump. All year the commentators have said " If you make the choice to bump you could find yourself in hot water". If he stayed in the smother position, regardless of what happened to Brayshaw. No case to answer. The precedent has now been set.
Agree. When coming down from the jump, instead of turning his shoulder, Maynard's arms from above his head could have been just lowered to in front of him, still extended and pushed Brayshaw down. That's what most normal people do when they fall, not turn their shoulder to impact the ground.
@@Hunty49 that is fiction you just made up lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He had less than 500 milliseconds to react, no time for a conscious decision, and what you are concocting is inconsistent with how the neurological system works
Fact check: He didn't make a conscious bump. It doesn't fit your agenda, but that's the facts.
Do you think it's possible to concurrently decide to smother and inflict as much damage on the way down by a bump. It's possible. Maynard is an aggressive player. I can see him having that thought process.
@@imalwaysright He turned his body to make contact with his shoulder. That's a fact. He didn't consciously go to bump? That's not a fact. You can't read minds. That's an opinion. Inadmissible in court.
If it's ok for a player to leave the ground while he is going in the opposite direction to an opponent someone will get killed.
Been happening for over 200 years of footy, platers leaping g into one another from different angles and positions.
No deaths yet and there won't be. Save the hysterics for the Brayshaw bedside vigil mate.
They have all completely missed the point. The moment Maynard jumped there was never going to be any other outcome other than he was going to clean up Brayshaw, no doubt at all. Everyone has gone out of their way to make excuses for Maynard from the moment the incident happened. Watch Brayshaw here, it was a text book disposal the way that any coach would teach any player particularly any kid to kick the ball. yet he looks up and before he can defend himself in any way is cleaned up well after the ball has been kicked. The contact is way late, it’s high and yet Maynard is not accountable for any of his actions here simply because he was trying to smother???? What bollocks. You can certainly argue about intent and I agree there was no malice but so what??? That would mitigate any suspension but it should not prevent a suspension. It’s really simple, if head high contacts is made then you are supposed to be held accountable, if it’s late contact then you even more accountable.
Should rename the game to Australian Rules Netball..
If in the next 20 years or so we get to the point of no tackling, bumping or or high marking in football. I will be glad to be almost done with this life.. Leave the game to all you young softcocks..
Brashaw is as much to blame as any opposition player
When are people going to just accept that with contact sport comes risk? Players should just be made to sign a waiver so they can't sue and we can get back to the great game of AFL. Time to grow up and accept responsibility for our own actions, the world is all about blaming someone else for their choices, kinda pathetic really.
If karma happens and Maynard gets knocked out next week, l hope Brayshaw sends him wine and roses.
Can we sack everyone in the tribunal and actually employ some professionals. Brayshaw should have defended himself, use his elbow to make contact and lessen impact to the head. Perhaps players should learn some self defence.
Has the AFL done everything they can to make sure Brayshaw can't come looking for a payout in 15 years time? Yes they have. Case closed
Would be so good if Melbourne get defeated on the weekend, perfect justice for the pitiful behaviour collectively.
Wonder how Brayshaw's brother will twist that for his 5 seconds of fame. 😂
Nothing to see Simon Goodwin, anyone would think you never played football.
Eddie should take his Collingwood jumper off ,Maynard should have 3 weeks off from football ,forget about other players who have been knocked out and players gone straight to the tribunal,
Take the Collingwood hate jumper off. Actually, your wear a Collingwood jumper. Rent free!
@@imalwaysright I do not hate Collingwood , i just say it as it is and i am a proud St.kilda supporter
@@peterbrasher3118 if you "say it as it is", name one player that has gone "straight to the tribunal" unfairly?
@@peterbrasher3118Fancy a St.Kilda supporter having the cheek to say anything about players from other teams.Considering it was one of your players ruined John Greenings career by king hitting him behind play.
Proud StKilda supporter that probably still fanboys O'Dea.
Class by Maynard to visit Angus and call his mum but Brodie Holland saying it’s cause Bradshaw has a glass jaw is prime grub behaviour on his part. As a cats supporter upmost respect for Maynard’s response but geez it’s hard to like Collingwood with ex players like Holland saying what they did.
It will Be
Interesting to see Eddies attitude when a Pies player gets knocked into next week
Maynard was immediately, and still on the ground, both horrified by the result and concerned about Brayshaw. It was more than just without malice....
Lol... i saw the same thing and thought the opposite. Like a jumper punch that connects... Concern can also look like guilt. "Oh shheet, wasn't meant to work that well."
@@deach5254 shows what hating a team can do to your perception of events
@@bandito6782 Hating? I actually like Maynard and the pies. I actually like the way Maynard plays. Hard... don't get in my way or ill go through you.
@@deach5254 cool story bruv
Bit late for concern, he made a choice that it was not going to be him that got hurt. Why did he not try to cushion the blow instead of leading with his shoulder into a completely defenseless opponent head.
How long Laura kane play footy for ?oooooooo outsmarted her self
Look forward to see Eddie’s tears Friday night when the Giants rip his beloved magpies a new one.
He jumped of the ground and smashed a player with a helmet
Half a step to the left
No contact with player
smoother it not a smother 5 feet off the ground that’s called a spoil mo smother (Kill Shot )
He touched the ball. Brayshaw veered more than "half a step" towards Maynard.
Jimmy Cartel has contracted a hit out on the AFL Board
" Tell Jimmy i always liked him, it was just business "
@@paulweston285 🤣🤣🤣
If it's going Gaelic just get it over with and start using a round ball
If you no longer go for the ball or no longer attempt to defend the ball, you are no longer a football player. You are just taking up valuable space on the field.......Ayrton Senna.....lol anyone who knows F1 should get this.
I loathe Maynard and Collingwood , yet don't think he did anything wrong . The problem is , so many innocuous incidents in the recent past have ended with penalties, but not this time . Hmmm
That’s my thoughts exactly, even when they refer to the Sicily tackle getting 3 weeks here, that punishment was purely on outcome, not action. So why wasn’t this ruled the same?
You're a muppet mate. Did you see Cripps hit to win a brownlow? Come on man you just hate Collingwood and you don't even know why.
@@Jlognobecause Sicily went too far. You cant compare Maynard with a tackle
Name an incident you’re referring to
@@imalwaysright so you can’t compare a bump with a tackle? Why not? They’re both football actions, they’re both within the rules (the specific incidents), but one was judged purely on outcome, whereas one wasn’t
The game is finished. Seriously its all over.