Hawthorn Have Still Got A Big Problem! | 2025 AFL Pre-Season

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  • @McFeeMedia
    @McFeeMedia 10 годин тому +1

    The score takes care of itself - a great book that talks about how a weakness can become an advantage in NFL. I know that sam will innovate just like he did with the defence, they were smaller but quicker and it fuelled our whole game. We had forwards running havoc in the midfield zipping around and tiring out opponents. now we can put in fresh legs from interchangeable backmen like sic / battle / weddle too. hawks players would not be surprised if ramsden plays on opening. I think Scaife is an option based on his dominance in VFL as a rookie. I am excited to see what sam does. not happy about dear being injured but he seems to be bulking up.

  • @johnnylay1961
    @johnnylay1961 5 годин тому +1

    Daz i will be happy with Top 4 🙏

  • @austinphillips2317
    @austinphillips2317 11 годин тому +2

    Like to see josh Weddle permanent forward who knows where his ceiling is

    • @declanmoore75
      @declanmoore75 3 години тому +1

      I think it's a no brainer that Weddle gets up the ground more. I don't know about permanent forward as I feel like that may be wasting his abilities, but I could see him as a Forward/Wing (part time ruck aswell), in a Jeremey Cameron-esque roll but with more emphasis on the outside run and transition game.

  • @jacobcov918
    @jacobcov918 День тому +6

    Agree with this take Daz. If Lewis keeps suffering his injury woes, I wouldn't be shocked if they try to lure Oscar Allen to the club next year. He'd be a great get! 👍

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому +1

      Would make my dreams come true

    • @bradz4319
      @bradz4319 13 годин тому

      not sure how much wc would love giving us their vc and captain in back to back seasons haha

  • @LoweyRovers7
    @LoweyRovers7 13 годин тому

    Fellow Hawks supporter here Daz and I could not agree more with what you’ve said in this video. Hopefully the smalls can continue to get the job done but we are definitely needing a boost in our tall forward stocks. I guess we’ll all just have to wait and see how the season unfolds.

  • @dezza3g897
    @dezza3g897 День тому +2

    great take. yes the goals record looked amazing last year but i can see a bit of sydney in the back end of 2024 about the hawks in 2025. goals coming on the back of corridor ball movement looks unstoppable until its not. teams and coaches find a way to shut down the corridor and when the hawks are forced to play a different way they may falter. great teams (such as brissy) can play and win in multiple ways and i think this video perfectly highlights why the hawks could struggle at that.

    • @bakiunicorn
      @bakiunicorn 23 години тому

      One thing that really impressed me last year was that the Hawks found a couple of different ways to move the ball. If there preferred method of handball then kick through the guts was thwarted, they were able to shift to a possession kicking brand and move the ball around the wings. They have great kicks in the side which makes it very hard to defend. The only way to stifle it is to ramp up the pressure as Port did in the final but few sides are able to sustain that for long periods during a long season.

  • @bakiunicorn
    @bakiunicorn 23 години тому

    Love this, Daz. I've got this feeling about Jasper Scaife. Can't help but think that he may just take any opportunity given to make a bold impression. Might not start round 1 but I can see a day where he starts as Full Forward, Sicily at Centre Half Forward with his beautiful kicking, Gunston on a Flank then rotate the smalls around them. At least for the first half of the season. Not sure that Chol will get much of a look unfortunately unless he puts in some big miles at training to fix some flaws (although he does bring great athleticism to the forward line). Will be extra excited if our midfield start popping more through as well!

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  15 годин тому

      In the last two years, Jai Newcombe is top five for the Hawks for 4th quarter goals! If another mid (hello Will) can jump on that bandwagon, my god I'll be excited!

  • @declanmoore75
    @declanmoore75 День тому +3

    This may be a wild statement, but if Blake Hardwick plays as a majority forward for the season I can see him as an undersized lead up forward kicking 60+. Not ready to put my money where my mouth just yet, waiting to see if he'll actually play up forward this year which is also what they said last year, but heard he's been training primarily forward.

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      He has been & in match sim, played forward for 75%

    • @declanmoore75
      @declanmoore75 3 години тому

      @@daztalksfooty Great to hear! I think most teams will struggle to cover him as he is not a conventional 'Key Forward' but will definitely be a presence up there. P.S. I find it strange that he's a pretty rubbish field kick, but such a comfortable and clean kicker when going for goals.

  • @thequartersfooty
    @thequartersfooty День тому +1

    As much as good the Hawthorn's 2024 season charge into the finals which was amazing after the 0-5 start they had. The only question is can they back up the momentum into this 2025 season. All the hype, all the theatrics, all the talent and more importantly wins.

  • @mrporkchop-lx6ed
    @mrporkchop-lx6ed 2 години тому

    Big Frosty could be a cheeky option. Him and Sicily rotating could really throw defenders off

  • @charleszerafa
    @charleszerafa День тому +1

    This is a lot of words to say not much. We aren't in Premiership contention but competitive again. With Battle and Barras we can release Hardwick up forward, Weddle can also pinch hit in the forward 50. So all the 5 players you mention kick 30+ and then add Wizz and Hardwick kicking 30 each that makes up another 60 goals. I also think the mids kick more goals this year. Jasper Scaife is a good size and height to come in and contribute and contest. If he goes well he might push Chol out of the side. If you listened to Sam being asked about Sis up forward next year and the game style he basically said they are going to take a close look at the Premiers and take some of their tactics. The Lions also rotate a lot of forwards and didn't rely on Danaher or the other talls. The trend is that you need more players contributing and rotating through the forward line and create mis matches against the opposition. I'm not as concerned about Chol or having a key tall. Well be competitive and everyone is getting better. Our real secret weapon is the even quality of our players.

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  15 годин тому +1

      Brisbane didn't rely on Joe? He single-handedly got them in front in the semi-final and kicked 57 goals for the year.
      Kai Lohmann was their third leading goalkicker who kicked 36 while our #1 kicked 37.
      We are going to need a standout #1 forward and I'll be happy to be wrong

    • @declanmoore75
      @declanmoore75 3 години тому

      @ Considering that Brody Mihocek was Collingwood's leading goalkicker in '23 with 47 it wouldn't be ridiculous to say that Chol (who's kicked 44 in a season) could be that 'standout #1 forward' for us. Not to mention the young fleet of smalls and Calsher who'll all be a year older and should only add to their totals from last year. I think that with how even the competition is at the moment we are as good a chance as anyone to win it.
      However, I do believe it'll come down to our mindset and application rather than the talent that we have.

  • @ShadowLight-kn7rl
    @ShadowLight-kn7rl День тому +1

    Pre-season hype is big right now and I'm all for it!!!
    I too am pessimistic on the Hawks as they're going into 2025 as a tempered team off the back of a momentum surfing 2024.
    I feel that it's going to be a fairly different year for the Hawks in 2025 as the expectations are high and every loss will hold the weight of 2. Do I think they can win the premiership? No.
    Will they contend? Sure! They will be hunted though and as clubs have the measure of them now, I do feel like it could very easily fall off as 2024 looking like a false dawn. I've had this concern for the Hawks fir quite some but I'm happy to be proven wrong by it.
    Frankly. 2030 onwards is when I see the Hawks next premiership realistically possible.
    Keep up the great work mate. Not too far away now.

  • @cameronlewis1425
    @cameronlewis1425 4 години тому

    I partially agree Daz but we did accelerate up the ladder without Mitch lewis. We had chol, part time Sicily and gunners trying to fit the role. I get all this. Reports state ramsden is having a ripper off season so I’m keen to see him fill that role. So, whilst lewis is out I am happy to see ramsden develop with gunners beside him. The mosquito fleet will always be present to crumb him.
    IMO opinion I think our issue isn’t the forward line, I think it’s the midfield.

  • @colinross6259
    @colinross6259 День тому

    Felt so sorry for Mitch when waited to mark the ball, got knocked out and did his knee as fell to the ground. Hoping Chol can step up. Hardwick did alright up forward. You're right, need a big dominant forward to either mark or bring ball to ground. Hawks did move the ball far better into the fwd line which led to many goals later in the season. Also fast transition didn't let backlines set-up. Max may surprise as Calsher did, hope so, I'm going for 3 and 3 for the 1st 6 matches.

  • @AFLTragic
    @AFLTragic 17 годин тому

    Great take. Personally the biggest issue I see with the Hawks is the fact that they have a fair few players in the 28+ age bracket who are currently carrying a huge load. They will find it hard to replace those players in a compromised draft especially if they’re finishing inside the 8. I do like what they’re doing but think they are jumping the gun a little on their rebuild. Going too early for Battle and Barrass. Happy to be proven wrong but with a harder draw compromised draft and not as lucky on the injury front, I think there are a few more hurdles the Hawks will need to jump through before pushing for a flag.

  • @freedompatriot1097
    @freedompatriot1097 22 години тому

    100% Daz. To be honest I have written off Lewis standing up to AFL football. I think we are going to miss Dear more than most people realise. He had a presence in the air but the ball was not dead when it hit the ground either.
    A quality key forward looks like the only piece in the puzzle missing at the moment.
    Two teams I have on top next year are GWS and Fremantle.

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  15 годин тому

      Would've been crazy after the 1-6 start to tell Hawks fans Calsher Dear was the missing piece yet here we are! Unreal story and a ripper lad too!

  • @DoubleDummy
    @DoubleDummy День тому +1

    McDonald, Ginni, The Wiz, then add goals from Battle, Sicily, Weddle, Dylan Moore (gun!!!_ Jacky G Luke Bruest and even Mabiol Chol and Max Ramsden to cameo (maybe more??)
    You will see that our game plan will alter (or already suits) a style where we will score from more ground balls inside 50 than any other side. The quick ball movement from players like Amon Impey Massimo Weddle Battle Sicily and Barass from the back half utilising our mids (who aren't scrubs) and it will come down to injuries and can we be mentally strong enough in the key big moments.
    Enjoy the ride, I know I will!

  • @LordChester33
    @LordChester33 14 годин тому +1

    Serong was drafted as a forward and played a few games there before being converted into a defender. Do you think he might get another trial up forward?

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  12 годин тому

      I doubt it, his VFL form was really good down back

  • @lukeholland884
    @lukeholland884 День тому +1

    Daz, you are a bit of a downer. The hawks had eight players kick over 20 goals last season and only one of them is unaivailable at this point.
    The hype is justified. Hawthorn are, once again, back in the thick of it.

  • @MyCaptainPugwash
    @MyCaptainPugwash День тому

    Interesting to see how Hawks go, I think they should be at the top but so many times I have watched coaches react to teams and come up with a solution and a team falls off next season.

  • @rockdog4894
    @rockdog4894 День тому +1

    Roaming Weddle in the forward line...

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  14 годин тому

      He will be genuinely positionless I reckon

  • @andycoley3731
    @andycoley3731 15 годин тому

    My bigger concern is opposing coaches will have had 5 months to analyse the game that took us from 16th to 6th. Though I believe Sam will continue to change to stay up with or hopefully ahead of the pack. Feeling pretty positive but the step up from 6th is going to be more difficult than many pundits think, and will need plenty of luck with injuries.

  • @spindoctor6385
    @spindoctor6385 День тому +1

    I would bet that James Sicily would average over 2goals/game if he played a full season at full forward. It just doesn't seem to be Sam Mitchells way though. He seems more content to rotate forwards an find favoyrable matchups.
    I didn't find the list containing Fritch, Mihocheck, Stringer, Jetta and Gunston as compelling evidence that you need one big forward to have success.

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      They all kicked 40+ last year though was the overwhelming pattern.

    • @spindoctor6385
      @spindoctor6385 День тому

      @daztalksfooty I do understand the point, but when it is guys like the ones mentioned, I think their output is more of a consequence of what is happening up the ground more so than them being dominant because of who they are.
      Did Gunston kick 40+ in 2015 because he played in a premiership team? Or was Hawthorn a premiership team in 2015 because Gunston kicked 40+? While I don't believe that it can be separated easily into that binary, I think that it is more of the former with the players mentioned (maybe not Stringer)

  • @mikeharris7780
    @mikeharris7780 5 годин тому

    Leigh Mathews moved forward in the last few years of his playing career and kicked 200+ goals. Sicily is not in the same level as lethal and we aint playing 80's football but if he can get 2 goals a game we get damn close.

  • @stevenprice6957
    @stevenprice6957 16 годин тому

    Of course we’d rather Lewis and Dear fit but as long as no more talls go down, we should be right. Mitchell and co will work something out. As long as we are 3-3 early at worst then look out with our athletic profile and overall endurance. Go hawks.

  • @BogoBob
    @BogoBob 7 годин тому

    Jai Serong was drafted as a forward. So could be an option, and we don't know how long dear is out for but Dear is 100% the answer long term. Will win multiple Coleman medals.

  • @hawk2390
    @hawk2390 День тому

    Like the look of Jasper, what's his preseason form?

  • @Peterjx
    @Peterjx 16 годин тому

    Reports are Ramsden is killing it in preseason.

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  15 годин тому

      Yeah I struggle to trust some track watchers to be honest but I did like the shoutout he got from DH!

  • @JBTSO
    @JBTSO День тому +1

    Its about accumlative goals not individual goals. Hawthorns number 1 in accumlative goals with a virtually unchanged forward line. There is an abundance of utility medium talls that could fill the void. Lewis will be back mid year.

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      And play how many games?

    • @JBTSO
      @JBTSO День тому

      @@daztalksfooty the three that count.

  • @tkrosse2274
    @tkrosse2274 День тому

    Daz, casting my mind back to the 2023 draft I can remember you were very hot on duursma. Knowing what you know now, if Watson and duurs were both on the board and it was hawthorns pick. Who would you want them to draft?

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      Well Watson duh based on output but I'm still high on Duursma. Kid's an athletic freak and an advantage for the Wiz was the Hawks were also good in the back end.

  • @brettgleadell3576
    @brettgleadell3576 День тому +1

    Will the wizard struggle im his second year with more attention from defenders

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      The Hawks are combating it by sending him a bit further up the ground. Not sure a sophomore slump is as big a thing in footy as it is in other sports

  • @briancarter360
    @briancarter360 19 годин тому

    Not sure you need a major forward for the game style we play? I prefer to have 8 plus guys scoring 20 plus it’s has more unity and excitement You didn’t mention Hardwick 5 goals for his little venture in the front when your that unpredictable such as the Hawks are it’s hard to answer there chaos yes we’re gonna come undone a few times like we did against Geelong but the strength in the back is so much better now go Hawks go Daz love your comments on football ❤

  • @briancarter360
    @briancarter360 16 годин тому

    Just have faith in Sam he was a midfielder coach for one year at West Coast and look what happened?thats why Barrass is here

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  15 годин тому

      I've got faith in Sam, history says someone needs to take a leap up forward

    • @briancarter360
      @briancarter360 15 годин тому

      @ Mitchell and Dear will be there at the business end of the season

  • @Johny-jy5vo
    @Johny-jy5vo День тому

    What about Josh waddle up forward?
    Maybe they could swap him and Sicily back and forward
    Thoughts?

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      There will be some situational trickery by Sam for sure but my worry is that not having a #1 forward could lead to trouble

    • @Johny-jy5vo
      @Johny-jy5vo День тому

      @ I’m sure Sammy has got something up his sleeve
      Not sure how long dear will be out and Mitch Lewis will come back
      Skaife and Ramsdan are also an option to at least try out. No one thought dear would be any good for at least a few years.
      I just think that whoever it is as long as they are not out marked (like chol often is) and the ball comes to ground the mosquito fleet will get the job done from there

  • @NotoriousBenIG
    @NotoriousBenIG День тому

    Sydney are destined to rip apart the first team they meet after that GF. 😂😂😂

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      I mean in 2017 they lost to Port at home by 28 points after losing the GF and beat Gold Coast by 49 points in 2023. 1-1, I'll take those odds (I'm delusional)

  • @spindoctor6385
    @spindoctor6385 День тому

    Is it really a super hard first six? Carlton and Essendon are both closer to bottom four teams than top four. The other four are tough but all are winnable. Most games will be competitive, that goea for nearly every team in the league.
    If I had to put money on a win/loss after six rounds I would bet on 4/2

  • @blackdogRexy
    @blackdogRexy День тому +1

    Im quite confident Sicily can average two plus goals a game. He reads the play beautifully and has an almighty powerful set of paws. I doubt too many defenders would relish playing on him.

  • @daniellebcooper7160
    @daniellebcooper7160 День тому

    chances are we'll make the finals: at least top 6. If thats the case, Lewis could be ready and firing by then......fingers crossed he dont get injured again.

  • @TheLaughingMagpie
    @TheLaughingMagpie День тому

    With Lewis out, I’d try Will McCabe forward

  • @KenMason-zt1vf
    @KenMason-zt1vf День тому

    Mitchell lewis is a big loss they will have to work out there main goal kickers to win enough games until mitchell lewis does arrive back to strenghened there forward line jack gunston might need to help out mabior chol until certain sircumstances

  • @power4ever145
    @power4ever145 День тому +3

    I genuinely believe hawks will not make finals this is not because I am a port fan and we have a little rivalry we’ve seen when young teams in the past jump up and shock everyone and the next year fall of again and I believe this will happen and I think it will be super I say they will be top 8 all year but just fall out in the last round due to a loss to the lions at the Gabba

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      Could very well do mate, look at Freo in 2022 with the win over the Dogs and the loss to the Pies and then crashed

    • @NickPYates
      @NickPYates День тому

      Most Hawks fans would be THRILLED to make the 8. We had a much easier draw last year, and breaking into the 8 would essentially rubber stamp the strategy as the team goes from mostly 22 to largely 23

  • @oakleaves8370
    @oakleaves8370 7 годин тому

    Hawks are going to have a much harder go this time around. Much harder draw, no 7 matches against bottom teams like in 2024. Wont be surprised if you go 1-5.

  • @greedypenguine3947
    @greedypenguine3947 8 годин тому

    I honestly have gone pass Mitch Lewis and I don’t care whenever he’s out the team or in because he’s not reliable with his injury’s and never has been.

  • @seanverso6712
    @seanverso6712 День тому

    Have faith in scaif ramsden up forward

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому +1

      Having faith in unproven guys makes me a touch pessimistic

  • @SuspectAccount
    @SuspectAccount День тому

    LOL at anyone thinking the Hawks are winning anything this year. They won't make top 4.

    • @daztalksfooty
      @daztalksfooty  День тому

      Just think their ceiling is being overhyped without the re-result

    • @Johny-jy5vo
      @Johny-jy5vo День тому

      Time will tell

  • @HumanBeam17
    @HumanBeam17 День тому

    first