The Clash-Train In Vain[Live 1983]

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 22 січ 2025

КОМЕНТАРІ • 92

  • @IlliniJake
    @IlliniJake 10 місяців тому +24

    Mick Jones was always the brilliance in the band

    • @symoncook3829
      @symoncook3829 Місяць тому +1

      Your right of course, but sounds flat without the real star of the band Topper!

  • @herc_ules_therealone
    @herc_ules_therealone Рік тому +35

    This drummer really highlights how good Topper was.

    • @stephenstone8480
      @stephenstone8480 11 місяців тому +12

      Topper is for sure one of the top 5 drummers of all time...a seriously underrated and overlooked drummer.

    • @maddie8415
      @maddie8415 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes! I couldn't immediately put my finger on what this version is missing, but I think it's Topper's drumming above all.

    • @kevindavies2066
      @kevindavies2066 3 місяці тому

      Terry Chimes was the original drummer but left after recording the first album. He returned after Topper was sacked after the recording of Combat Rock, when in reality they should've taken a break in the hope that Topper would get clean. The result was this, Mick leaving and Cut The Crap in 85. A sad end.

  • @darrendodd6674
    @darrendodd6674 10 місяців тому +11

    Burn incandescently in the dark skies of life and crash dramatically in death. For me, Jones / Topper were the real meat of the band... formidable, even.

    • @andrewbrown1463
      @andrewbrown1463 8 місяців тому +2

      I couldn’t agree more. Mick and Topper were the musicians and musical talent. Joe was the poet. Paul just looked cool.

  • @DMo1986
    @DMo1986 Рік тому +25

    The band that mattered the most 🇬🇧

    • @anthonyfuqua6988
      @anthonyfuqua6988 3 місяці тому

      The most important band in the world 1979-1983.

  • @dannyleung9448
    @dannyleung9448 3 місяці тому +3

    I love how raw and unrehearsed this is

  • @Johnnywhamo
    @Johnnywhamo 5 років тому +77

    This is sad, the last concert they did. They were angry, didn't want to be there and it shows

    • @bigsky3072
      @bigsky3072 3 роки тому +3

      This was really their last concert? Why?

    • @9blucats
      @9blucats 2 роки тому +6

      You can kinda tell.

    • @Stosh68
      @Stosh68 2 роки тому

      @@bigsky3072 This was not the final concert with Mick. Mick’s last show before he was fucked by Bernie was the US Festival.

    • @darylstubbs3784
      @darylstubbs3784 2 роки тому +9

      This is painful to watch

    • @mariuspoppFM
      @mariuspoppFM 2 роки тому +4

      @@bigsky3072 Last concert with Jones

  • @andrewbrown1463
    @andrewbrown1463 3 роки тому +42

    It was OVER without Topper and they all knew it. They needed time away from one another. Bernie Rhodes was back in the mix and was pushing Mick out as Mick had Bernie sacked years prior. Joe was very influenced by Bernie. Letting Bernie back in as Manager was the real beginning of the end. THEY MADE LINDON CALLING WITHOUT HIM. This band oozed talent and one of Rock and Rolls greatest losses to have this band fall apart. Saw Joe with Mescaleros twice. Love each of these guys (Mick, Joe, Topper and Paul).

    • @jadegoodin2819
      @jadegoodin2819 Рік тому +1

      Joe was also supportive of the other guys, especially Mick. I can't imagine how great the reunion would have been (just before joe's death).

    • @herc_ules_therealone
      @herc_ules_therealone Рік тому +7

      Pretty much sums it up. I also saw Joe with the Mescaleros in 2002 at The Big Day Out in Sydney. I chilled up the back expecting some grooves from the band, hoping they might do 1 or 2 Clash songs, not caring if they didn't. Every 3 songs was a Clash song and before long I was front and centre. As they finished, Joe was going along and shaking peoples hands in the front row as he prepared to exit. He shook mine and he was onto the next when I yelled out, thanks as loud as I could. He turned back to me and gave me a big smile. It was a magical day.

  • @lottesundstrom908
    @lottesundstrom908 4 роки тому +23

    Mick is saying, “I have me another gig lined up called Big Audio Dynamite, later mates”.

  • @epikperson-pk8pn
    @epikperson-pk8pn Рік тому +7

    I am a big fan of Joe

    • @epikperson-pk8pn
      @epikperson-pk8pn 11 місяців тому

      joe strummer would have been 71 but he died at 50 he was a good guitar player

  • @raulalbertomarroquin973
    @raulalbertomarroquin973 2 роки тому +16

    Viva the Clash!!!

  • @Davy28842
    @Davy28842 11 місяців тому +6

    Happy international clash day

  • @Jonathan-m9z9r
    @Jonathan-m9z9r 8 місяців тому +2

    It was amazing to witness the Clash rise from punk rock 3 chord songs to doing songs from every kind of genre expertly, artfully with definite prowess. There seemed to be no boundaries for them.

  • @Virginiashadow
    @Virginiashadow 3 роки тому +9

    Simply awesome

  • @770Barney
    @770Barney 2 дні тому

    Que pegada

  • @CP-kb1du
    @CP-kb1du 3 роки тому +6

    High School ,memories

  • @drstevie
    @drstevie 8 років тому +6

    Immense.

  • @FrankBittom1
    @FrankBittom1 8 років тому +9

    the best vibe!

  • @Dreamskater100
    @Dreamskater100 9 років тому +7

    Classic. x
    Legends.

  • @halenbud
    @halenbud 2 місяці тому

    Say you stand by your man
    Tell me something I don't understand
    You said you love me and that's a fact
    Then you left me, said you felt trapped
    Well some things you can explain away
    But my heartache's in me till this day
    [Chorus]
    Did you stand by me
    No, not at all
    Did you stand by me
    No way
    All the times
    When we were close
    I'll remember these things the most
    I see all my dreams come tumbling down
    I won't be happy without you around
    So all alone I keep the wolves at bay
    There is only one thing that I can say
    [Chorus]
    You must explain why this must be
    Did you lie when you spoke to me
    Did you stand by me
    No, not at all
    Now I got a job
    But it don't pay
    I need new clothes
    I need somewhere to stay
    But without all these things I can do
    But without your love I won't make it through
    But you don't understand my point of view
    I suppose there's nothing I can do
    [Chorus]
    You must explain why this must be
    Did you lie when you spoke to me?
    Did you stand by me
    Did you stand by me
    No, not at all
    Did you stand by me
    No way
    Did you stand by me
    No, not at all
    Did you stand by me
    No way

  • @wildmercuryfilms
    @wildmercuryfilms 2 роки тому +9

    Just when The Clash was hitting their stride and peaking, they disintegrated. Why? I never understood. 1983 was their Commercial Peak, then it was over.

    • @rowski8872
      @rowski8872 2 роки тому +12

      They had turned into everything they were first rebelling against. Mainstream. Stadium gigs. Joe was having a hard time dealing with the contradictions of their success, and knew the irony of singing songs like 'Career Opportunities' by this point. Topper was a heroin addict, Mick was losing interest and turning up late, and Bernie was pulling the strings.

    • @stephenstone8480
      @stephenstone8480 11 місяців тому +2

      Sure wish they had lasted longer...but we were lucky to have them in the first place. LONG LIVE THE CLASH!!!

    • @andrewbrown1463
      @andrewbrown1463 8 місяців тому +1

      2 aspect led to their downfall.
      1. They were burned out and needed a break. 7 years straight with no break is unheard of. And consider what they had achieved in this time. Unimaginable today.
      2. Bernie Rhodes was a cancer. Mick hated him. They proved they didn’t need him (London Calling)…he controlled Joe which led to Topper and Mick being kicked out. Topper needed time off to rehab and get healthy. The others could have used that time away as well.

    • @maddie8415
      @maddie8415 6 місяців тому

      It really does seem hard to understand, but I think the atmosphere in the band had turned very toxic for a lot of reasons. They had a manager that couldn't manage effectively. He encouraged rivalries and turned band mates against one another rather than help them work together better. They really badly needed a break at this time but the manager insisted on pushing them to keep going when they didn't even have a chance to think about the big picture.

  • @tonymyers7498
    @tonymyers7498 3 роки тому +15

    They fucked up totally....I love The Clash....fuck ups or no fuck ups

  • @seispistols881
    @seispistols881 9 років тому +37

    He ain't no topper all I'm saying!

    • @RuiMaia
      @RuiMaia 9 років тому +3

      +julio mejia i was going to say that...

    • @redhotchilifan98
      @redhotchilifan98 5 років тому +8

      For having no practice Pete Howard was really good

    • @neillp3827
      @neillp3827 3 роки тому +11

      @@redhotchilifan98 he did a good job considering hed done a handful of warmup gigs and how diverse the class stuff is in styles pop, funk, punk reggae, disco early rap

    • @mariuspoppFM
      @mariuspoppFM 2 роки тому

      @@redhotchilifan98 this should be Terry Chimes, Howard came later

    • @bent2
      @bent2 Рік тому +1

      Nope. Chimes quit in early 83 due to conflicts within the band. Hence Pete Howard here.

  • @alessandraciannamea2512
    @alessandraciannamea2512 Місяць тому

    Who here in december 2024?

  • @matthieushaughnessy4598
    @matthieushaughnessy4598 9 років тому +14

    How messed up are they in this clip? Can barely stand!

  • @Zammo6270
    @Zammo6270 6 років тому +10

    It’s over at this point no topper no clash!

    • @randywissler9923
      @randywissler9923 5 років тому +7

      Topper was the shit, but let's be honest, Joe and Mick were The Clash!!!

    • @lacennapassidean943
      @lacennapassidean943 4 роки тому +3

      @@randywissler9923 I’m a year late, but just because Topper was doing heroine doesn’t mean he’s shit. Joe has even said himself that when Topper left, The Clash fell apart. The bottom line is, Mick, Joe, Paul & Topper made up The Clash! It wouldn’t been the same without any one of them. Please respect this.

    • @randywissler9923
      @randywissler9923 4 роки тому +2

      @@lacennapassidean943 I never said he was shit, I said he was THE shit. I am a drummer as well, and always loved him, was just saying that without Mick and Joe, they wouldn't have been the same.

    • @ronaldledonne2075
      @ronaldledonne2075 3 роки тому

      This is embarrassingly bad.

    • @CP-kb1du
      @CP-kb1du 3 роки тому

      @@randywissler9923 4 members were The Clash

  • @thenobullshtchannel8768
    @thenobullshtchannel8768 7 місяців тому +2

    Seen them at pier 17 NYC there’s no vids of that show, I prefer 1977 Clash raw punk days

  • @thebrokenalleys
    @thebrokenalleys 12 років тому +4

    Bass, please.

  • @Toadymakesvideos
    @Toadymakesvideos 2 місяці тому +1

    Stand bye me

  • @TheAnimalScout
    @TheAnimalScout 10 років тому +6

    Red solo cup!

  • @enriqueosorio3731
    @enriqueosorio3731 6 років тому +10

    Anyone have any idea what chords joe is playing?

    • @jeff7764
      @jeff7764 2 роки тому +4

      A,D B G mostly throughout the whole song. All barre chords. Octaves in the beginning on the 5th fret E string and 7th fret D string. Not to terribly hard of a song

    • @cxstopher13
      @cxstopher13 2 роки тому +4

      All of them unfortunately.

  • @epikperson-pk8pn
    @epikperson-pk8pn 11 днів тому

    i liked pauls stage presents

  • @billballoon
    @billballoon 8 місяців тому +1

    Pete Howard is not the problem in this gig; Joe is.

    • @maddie8415
      @maddie8415 6 місяців тому +1

      I have to agree. Of course Topper's drumming was better on this song, but Joe seems pretty half-assed...he seemed kind of off his rocker at this gig.

  • @lespaul1973bcn
    @lespaul1973bcn 3 роки тому +9

    Bad vibes...from the beginning Joe speak with mick and ignored him

  • @clintbrannan9510
    @clintbrannan9510 8 років тому +4

    All my barmy army friends have all got new boots.

  • @Alanpoeme
    @Alanpoeme 7 років тому +3

    funny to imagine how many friends they left... punks are full of breaking up with friends, right?

  • @mariolopez-fl7ly
    @mariolopez-fl7ly 4 роки тому +3

    mii channel music

  • @PaulieD1984
    @PaulieD1984 Рік тому +1

    This shouldve been the end isntead of cut the crap being released with a bunch of nobodys apart from strummer

  • @boojiboy2275
    @boojiboy2275 4 місяці тому +1

    Much better, more energetic version here. This is the song that hooked me onto the Clash back in the day and I never looked back. ua-cam.com/video/eNot47WRBFk/v-deo.htmlsi=OComXDc5SGlUSmmk

  • @770Barney
    @770Barney 2 дні тому

    Skaaaaaaa

  • @The_Klystron7
    @The_Klystron7 9 місяців тому +1

    In space no one can hear you clash

    • @toddtucker3819
      @toddtucker3819 9 місяців тому

      Etched it the center of side 4 of London Calling right after Train in Vain.

  • @lacennapassidean943
    @lacennapassidean943 4 роки тому +6

    This is sad oof

    • @wildmercuryfilms
      @wildmercuryfilms 2 роки тому +2

      This is the greatest live version of this song. I absolutely love it. Yes: No Topper, No Clash. Still: This version has some Pixies-Nirvana soft-loud vibes to it. It’s definitely a different version than any other version. 1983 The Clash was peaking & falling apart.

  • @Jonathan-m9z9r
    @Jonathan-m9z9r 8 місяців тому

    Mick Jones is the most listenable bad singer (probably due to great songwriting)ever !!!

    • @maddie8415
      @maddie8415 6 місяців тому

      Being a good singer isn't always about technical perfection...Mick put a lot of emotion into his singing (as did Joe, who also wasn't a technically proficient singer). He doesn't seem as into it at this particular gig, but he makes for a good vocalist. It's way better than the fake "perfection" that's everywhere these days.

  • @jjp009
    @jjp009 5 місяців тому

    Uncomfortable version. It seems like they were all just tired of playing this song anymore.

  • @Paumanokcom
    @Paumanokcom 11 місяців тому

    "Jump the track" Funny...Album filler. Written in 15 minutes. Could not remember words later on.

  • @Michael-x9y6j
    @Michael-x9y6j 10 місяців тому

    The only band that matters

  • @anthonymagda9059
    @anthonymagda9059 9 місяців тому +1

    I PREFER MICK:S SINGING STYLE AND SOUND TO JOE, JUST MY LAME AMERICAN OPINION.....