I own a Marlin lever action in .444. I ran the number on it once. I think it was manufactured in 1978. I bought it from a friend who bought it new. Pretty sure it hasn't had its first 100 rounds through it. I did use it on a hog in Oklahoma some years back. It rolled that boar like a bowling ball! I'm glad to see .444 ammo available again - specially from Remington. There for a while it was non existent and if you did find it, it was exorbitantly priced. Owning that Marlin in .444 is the one and only reason I've never purchased a 45/70. Guess I never will.
If you're out of coffee in the morning licking a 9 volt battery can be a good emergency pick me up. Love my Marlin 444 Lever Action, had it over 35 years now.
Thanks for a great video on the .444 Marlin. The mighty .444 is a hoss! Powerful and it shocks the beasts in North America! Another one bites the dust when hit by the .444, especially the 265 grain bullet.
That ammo....when I was like 14, I shot the river in the winter in the same spot with a .22 LR rifle from like 40 yards up from the bank, like 200 shots and it chipped away a good divot about 4" deep and a foot wide, the ice was like 2 foot thick so no water. Then I grabbed my brother's Marlin in .444 Marlin and shot that 240 gr ammo at the ice, just one shot. Blew a hole right through it and water geysered up.
In over 40 years of owning and shooting the Marlin 444, I’ve never been a fan of the Remington 240gr load. 99% of my shooting was with Handloads of 270gr or heavier! The 444 is a Beast, and when you properly do what’s necessary to get Hardcast Bullets shoot well, it becomes a Turbo Charged Beast!
WHO_TEE_ as I told you about finding a .444 spent casing many years back. While out trudging inSouthernn Co. foothills hi-desert (bout 7,700' ish altitude), I picked up & shook the dirt outta the thing, and found it to be the .444. I thought @ the time it was ancient! Laying there for however many years?! Stuff doesn't deteriorate like wet climates. The oldest rifle I have fired was a Government 45-70 Cavelry. Yep, it had the trapdoor! The front sight on this thing was a half penny (cut in half) and firing smokeless powder. The guy was kin to my wife. He also had a .300 H&H Magnum. He hunted elk with both. Among other rifles he had.
Thank you for the 444 Marlin/CVA Scout review. Single shots have a genuine appeal. As for the chrony, you did it a favor. I believe you reviewed a new Caldwell chronograph at the recent SHOT Show. If you do not get the Caldwell, I recommend the Garmin XERO C1. Ease of use and small footprint makes the Garmin very attractive at range sessions. Cheers!
I sure like to watch your clips now & then and appreciate that you're a straight talker, no craping, no b'sing, admitting making little mistakes once in a while and being a fairly good shot too. Thanks for your effort$ producing these videos, be good and shoot safely!
I found my new bullet slinger. This year I bought an CVA inline muzzleloader and really enjoyed the muzzleloader experience. I am thinking of getting rid of all my center fire firearms. I have taken Elk and Mule deer with one shot with center fire rifles and think the single shot inline will serve me well.
I love my Marlin 1895 in 444. Bought it about 5 years ago and it has run flawlessly and really likes the Remington Core Lockt ammo. No problems hitting targets from 100 to 200yrds. Only real complaint is the price of that ammo. You know it's pretty bad when I can get Hornady LeveRevolution 444 ammo for much cheaper that the Remington. I've seen $75 to $90 per box at most gun shops if I'm luck enough to find it. Hornady is just under $50 a box. Reloading is the way to go. 😁
My 444 is a model 94 Winchester Timber Carbine with an 18” ported barrel, it weighs nothing and it’s a beast! A good friend of mine anchored a bear with it last fall, one shot and it never moved. 444 is an awesome round!
I got solar packs for most of my trail cameras. Was using lithiums and having to change 2-3×/year depending on activity. The cost of the solar was about the same as three 8 packs, so a couple have already paid for themselves. Too bad about the chrono...now you have a reason to get another. I am saving for a Xero.
Good to see some guns chambered in the classic 444. A guy from the local range said the 265 grain bullets are more accurate due to the twist rate of the rifling in Marlin rifles, which he shoots. It pays off to try the 240s and 265s to see which one is more accurate in your rifle. The +P 45-70 pretty much made the 444 obsolete. Had the 444 been available with a good 300 grain bullet, it would have had a better chance of survival against the 45-70, which has history on its side.
What you are describing is the .450 Marlin. Both the .444 and .450 came about since the 45-70 market was damn near dead. Cowboy action sports revived the 45-70, and now we can finally get them fully powered for modern rifles.
.444 was originally 240 grain bullets. It was fine for deer but a bit shallow penetration on heavier game. The bullets were too soft way back when. Hopefully the current production Remington ammo uses tougher bullets these days. It was found many years ago that 265 grain bullets were more appropriate for tougher game.
The triple4 for deer is absolute over kill. But then, your deer can never be too dead. Right? Are you still a 360 Buckhammer fan? I was going to get one but a 94 Winchester Big Bore in .444 Marlin found it's way into my heart and the rest is history. The Big Bore can handle higher pressures than the Marlin so I can muscle up the .444 if I ever thought I would want to. But, the Hornady Superformance with a 265 grain boolit creates a pretty awesome bing bang, too.
The prices on used Marlin and Winchester lever action rifles in .444 Marlin and .375 Winchester have gone artificially sky high, like a lot of other guns before the scamdemic.
Make sure the muzzle brake is tight. Apply blue loc tite or it will,shake loose and throw rounds all over. You must remove sight base degrease it and likewise apply loc tite. I’ve shot this caliber since it came out. Very effective. Only recovered one round from a bear. Remington 240 gr. Expansion. .900 . I own two Marlins in this caliber. I noticed you did not really tighten the brake as it should be.
LOL, locked up with 4 minutes to go...came back in after the show to catch those missing 4 minutes. Very weird buffering like that. Got it right in the brain pan for sure, lol.
Just the wind off that bullet! Dang! Maybe that's why your chrono layed down. Scared it! Lol. Maybe the chronograph ain't being given enough credit. I mean. Long live the chrono! Haha. It may need a requiem.
hey brotha adam , whats the $ of the lever action of them ? , me n my dad had a 30-30 lever action in the 80's , great brush n such rifle , great vid n content , LUV YA brotha > tom !
the nice think about the single shot is you can load some longer and heavier rounds. My Timber Carbine for 1997 couldn't stabilize a jacketed 400gr swaged. What is your twist rate?
My bad shoulders, back and neck make it so very difficult for me to zero and practice with my rifles chambered above the .243! When I do I use my lead sled but I have to put at least 20 pounds of weight on it!
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A guy called Jerry mad dog schriver used a lever action.444 Marlin in Vietnam he called it his bunker buster
Yes
Yes he did
If you tried that in Iraq or Afghanistan, you'd be court marshaled and kicked out of the army.
@@PassivePortfoliosnot a tool I'd have used in the mountains back there.
@@PassivePortfolios shut up nerd 😂
Did the Gov't have full patch ammo loaded for him?😆
We need to see a 444vs450vs45-70 comparison video
I agree
I own a Marlin lever action in .444. I ran the number on it once. I think it was manufactured in 1978. I bought it from a friend who bought it new. Pretty sure it hasn't had its first 100 rounds through it. I did use it on a hog in Oklahoma some years back. It rolled that boar like a bowling ball! I'm glad to see .444 ammo available again - specially from Remington. There for a while it was non existent and if you did find it, it was exorbitantly priced. Owning that Marlin in .444 is the one and only reason I've never purchased a 45/70. Guess I never will.
have a 444 Marlin got a 1200 lb moose with it agreed
First chronograph shot on purpose I've ever seen. Awesome!!
If you're out of coffee in the morning licking a 9 volt battery can be a good emergency pick me up. Love my Marlin 444 Lever Action, had it over 35 years now.
🤣🤣🤣 awesome you have a Marlin
Anger Management: I LOVE your style. I once used a .30-30 to put a lawnmower out of my misery! 😄
🤣🤣🤣
Wow, nothing more dangerous than a rabid lawnmower.
It was amusing, until you said lawnmower.
Then, it transitioned into hilarious!😂
Thanks for a great video on the .444 Marlin. The mighty .444 is a hoss! Powerful and it shocks the beasts in North America! Another one bites the dust when hit by the .444, especially the 265 grain bullet.
That's what I use in mine horaday superformace stacks bullets
Had a lever action .444 marlin. Doesn't just drop a deer,they do backflips!!
That’s none too shabby a group Hootey. That will ruin any deer’s day. Thanks for sharing! 👌
I've had no problems with
the 444
Everything that I aimed it at
won the freezer bag award
That ammo....when I was like 14, I shot the river in the winter in the same spot with a .22 LR rifle from like 40 yards up from the bank, like 200 shots and it chipped away a good divot about 4" deep and a foot wide, the ice was like 2 foot thick so no water. Then I grabbed my brother's Marlin in .444 Marlin and shot that 240 gr ammo at the ice, just one shot. Blew a hole right through it and water geysered up.
In over 40 years of owning and shooting the Marlin 444, I’ve never been a fan of the Remington 240gr load. 99% of my shooting was with Handloads of 270gr or heavier! The 444 is a Beast, and when you properly do what’s necessary to get Hardcast Bullets shoot well, it becomes a Turbo Charged Beast!
.444 is a classic for sure and quite the thumper. Wasn't it a go to bear pill back in the day?
When thoseo chronos start acting up, ya gotta put em down . If ya don't, next thing ya know, they end up biting the neighbor. 😉👍❤️
It’s definitely a keeper for hunting chronographs. Sht happen. Thanks for sharing the video.👍🇺🇸
WHO_TEE_ as I told you about finding a .444 spent casing many years back. While out trudging inSouthernn Co. foothills hi-desert (bout 7,700' ish altitude), I picked up & shook the dirt outta the thing, and found it to be the .444. I thought @ the time it was ancient! Laying there for however many years?! Stuff doesn't deteriorate like wet climates.
The oldest rifle I have fired was a Government 45-70 Cavelry. Yep, it had the trapdoor! The front sight on this thing was a half penny (cut in half) and firing smokeless powder. The guy was kin to my wife. He also had a .300 H&H Magnum. He hunted elk with both. Among other rifles he had.
One of the best black bear and hog calibers you can own👍
Go Garmin chronograph. They sure seem great.
Yes sir! One of the big dogs! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
Man that Remington ammo is consistent nice shootin there pardner !!!
LOL that was gold Whotee, the 444 sure made a good blood trail from the Chrono.😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Really good video and I'm so glad to see you "KIA" the chrono! Appreciate it WTW.
You are legend!
A double tap with a single shot!
Thank you for the 444 Marlin/CVA Scout review. Single shots have a genuine appeal. As for the chrony, you did it a favor. I believe you reviewed a new Caldwell chronograph at the recent SHOT Show. If you do not get the Caldwell, I recommend the Garmin XERO C1. Ease of use and small footprint makes the Garmin very attractive at range sessions. Cheers!
Good advice!
Ha he pulled a Scott with Kentucky Balistics
The Marlin .444 has been a big favorite also in Europe for woodland hunting. It might be more popular over there than in the US.
I love my JM stamp 444 Marlon I picked it up for $300 and five boxes of ammo. Great deal.
This bullet was used in Don Pendleton's book "Mack Bolon" fight against the Mafia
Yes M.B. did
IIRC it was the first of the
"Executioner" series
My copy is old and yellow
and crumbley
Out here in Western Missouri. The ticks are horrible this year. Just saying I enjoy the channel
Appreciate you watching!
I sure like to watch your clips now & then and appreciate that you're a straight talker, no craping,
no b'sing, admitting making little mistakes once in a while and being a fairly good shot too.
Thanks for your effort$ producing these videos, be good and shoot safely!
I found my new bullet slinger. This year I bought an CVA inline muzzleloader and really enjoyed the muzzleloader experience. I am thinking of getting rid of all my center fire firearms. I have taken Elk and Mule deer with one shot with center fire rifles and think the single shot inline will serve me well.
Great video. I think that chronograph needed an attitude adjustment. It’s a shame it didn’t have a little tannerite in it.
Now you're speaking my language ❤❤❤
I love my Marlin 1895 in 444. Bought it about 5 years ago and it has run flawlessly and really likes the Remington Core Lockt ammo. No problems hitting targets from 100 to 200yrds. Only real complaint is the price of that ammo. You know it's pretty bad when I can get Hornady LeveRevolution 444 ammo for much cheaper that the Remington. I've seen $75 to $90 per box at most gun shops if I'm luck enough to find it. Hornady is just under $50 a box. Reloading is the way to go. 😁
I always wanted one when they were less expensive but common sense told me what for and moved on .
My 444 CVA scout likes the Hornady 265 grain FTX 3/4 inch groups consistently. Got about the1.5 inch groups with the Corelock
A guy at the local range told me the 265 grain bullets are more accurate than the 240s in his Marlin rifles. Something about the rifling twist rate.
My 444 is a model 94 Winchester Timber Carbine with an 18” ported barrel, it weighs nothing and it’s a beast! A good friend of mine anchored a bear with it last fall, one shot and it never moved. 444 is an awesome round!
You made Halfmile happy.
Have a 1960's Marlin with 24" barrel and Montecarlo stock. Fine rille.
The people saying you’re resting your barrel, are rather uneducated.
Great video, man!
That's a sexy cartridge, very purposeful looking. Try a 75yd group and see how it goes if you are using it in thick scrub.
Awesome gun. Batteries are crazy high. That's why I use solar battery
I got solar packs for most of my trail cameras. Was using lithiums and having to change 2-3×/year depending on activity. The cost of the solar was about the same as three 8 packs, so a couple have already paid for themselves.
Too bad about the chrono...now you have a reason to get another.
I am saving for a Xero.
Nice. Good old offering. I sense a water jug verses video with 45/70.
Awesome round!!
Great video .. Now you need someone to donate a new
Chronograph !!
Thank you !
I love my cva 444 marlin.
I agree, I went from running 3 cameras down to one camera. Just too much for batteries.
love my 444
Very nice guns the CVA scout. I have one in 450 bushmaster
Good to see some guns chambered in the classic 444. A guy from the local range said the 265 grain bullets are more accurate due to the twist rate of the rifling in Marlin rifles, which he shoots. It pays off to try the 240s and 265s to see which one is more accurate in your rifle. The +P 45-70 pretty much made the 444 obsolete. Had the 444 been available with a good 300 grain bullet, it would have had a better chance of survival against the 45-70, which has history on its side.
What you are describing is the .450 Marlin. Both the .444 and .450 came about since the 45-70 market was damn near dead. Cowboy action sports revived the 45-70, and now we can finally get them fully powered for modern rifles.
.444 was originally 240 grain bullets. It was fine for deer but a bit shallow penetration on heavier game. The bullets were too soft way back when. Hopefully the current production Remington ammo uses tougher bullets these days. It was found many years ago that 265 grain bullets were more appropriate for tougher game.
The triple4 for deer is absolute over kill. But then, your deer can never be too dead. Right? Are you still a 360 Buckhammer fan? I was going to get one but a 94 Winchester Big Bore in .444 Marlin found it's way into my heart and the rest is history. The Big Bore can handle higher pressures than the Marlin so I can muscle up the .444 if I ever thought I would want to. But, the Hornady Superformance with a 265 grain boolit creates a pretty awesome bing bang, too.
Yup 360 is great. I need another deer with that
Sweat cal .. Cool . thanks brother
I'm just hoping wtw has enough 🦌 catchin tags to support all these new bull-lot slingers hes acquired this year. 🤣🤠😂
Time to buy a Garmin Xero chronograph!
Fun video you the man!
Thanks for watching!
That'll teach that Pro Chrony a lesson! Hopefully the Caldwell will be more reliable.
I love my CVA scout in 350LGND. With the Vortex Straitwall scope I can get a 2.5" group at 200yds with it.
The prices on used Marlin and Winchester lever action rifles in .444 Marlin and .375 Winchester have gone artificially sky high, like a lot of other guns before the scamdemic.
My cva in 444 really likes the horaday superformace can be tough to find but never had a deer move from where it was shot
Those damn chronos 🤣👍
Make sure the muzzle brake is tight. Apply blue loc tite or it will,shake loose and throw rounds all over. You must remove sight base degrease it and likewise apply loc tite. I’ve shot this caliber since it came out. Very effective. Only recovered one round from a bear. Remington 240 gr. Expansion. .900 . I own two Marlins in this caliber. I noticed you did not really tighten the brake as it should be.
Dude you are a gluten for recoil. That little single shot I would guess is brutal. But you my friend can shoot those hard hitters. Great video
💪💪 need to find a deer with it
Yup. that's permanently fixed. Some of my appliances have been fixed in the same way
Great Stuff 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
LOL, locked up with 4 minutes to go...came back in after the show to catch those missing 4 minutes. Very weird buffering like that. Got it right in the brain pan for sure, lol.
You’re a Chrony killer, Adam! I don’t blame you 👍🏻
You blew the brains out of it. LOL
Whoa! Hammer!
I just picked up another scout in 450 bushmaster. Can’t wait to get a chance to mount the scope and get to the range
Awesome
That makes 350 legend in rifle and pistol, 44mag, 300blk, 243, and 6.5cm that I have so far in the scout line. I’m sure I’ll add a few more too lol
That's what drill presses are for. 0.375" (3/8") took my A2 muzzle break from .22 caliber to 9mm.
Yeah thought about that just not sure if it could handle it being drilled out
Ya mean bison if you wanna call it buffalo 😅 I have those days . It's broke or I can't find it lol.
Just the wind off that bullet! Dang! Maybe that's why your chrono layed down. Scared it! Lol. Maybe the chronograph ain't being given enough credit. I mean. Long live the chrono! Haha. It may need a requiem.
I ended up picking up one of the cva scouts in 45-70. Mine with the 325gr leverevolution shoot sub moa at 100yrds. Triggers are fantastic!
Awesome
Hi Adam
Have the adapter drilled out to 1/2" and you will be GTG
We need a chrono manufacturer to step up and get WTW a new one!
👍WTW.
Keep em coming!
Minute of freezer in anyones book lol
Chrono reading was devasted fps
I tried some deer jerky yesterday. It wasn’t bad!
Nice rifle
Sweet Adam. CVA seems pretty solid. Wonder if it can handle 44 Special loads🤔
😂😅😂😅😝🤯9volt battery test, awesome 👌 😅
The ones that say you were resting the barol on it are the ones that can’t shoot 😂😂
Whooty, I'd love to see you shoot the backfire challenge.
That would be the ducks nuts.
I'd bet a breakfast taco that the suppressor will tighten those groups up a bit...
hey brotha adam , whats the $ of the lever action of them ? , me n my dad had a 30-30 lever action in the 80's , great brush n such rifle , great vid n content , LUV YA brotha > tom !
A lot. Always way over a grand when I see em
Nice!
Hey gunman
😘💕👍👍
the nice think about the single shot is you can load some longer and heavier rounds. My Timber Carbine for 1997 couldn't stabilize a jacketed 400gr swaged. What is your twist rate?
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My bad shoulders, back and neck make it so very difficult for me to zero and practice with my rifles chambered above the .243! When I do I use my lead sled but I have to put at least 20 pounds of weight on it!
Have you thought about filling a sandbag halfway fool, and putting it on the bottom of your lead slip?
GOT A 444 Marlin and a moose with it goes through steel culverts and the folded section too going to try to get a bear with it this year
Use the 444 fer bear Adam...black bear it'd be a cool 😎 👌
I worked with a Doctor who hated his pager.. going off all times day and night. When he retired he shot it with his 30-06
Awesome!
🙂 👍👍
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Get u a garmin and can u drill your can adapter out to .48"
Is there much difference between the 444 and the 45-70?