I received these same pouches when I was a saw gunner in SOI. When I got to the fleet I wasn't a saw gunner anymore, but I stilled used the pouches as a GP pouch.
ALICE gear really is hard to beat. Ive modernized with the MOLLE system but I still keep and use all of my old ALICE gear. Its smarter, stronger & offers more utility.
MOLLE belt & harness is the best of both worlds. You have all the advantages of MOLLE position adjustment _plus_ a wider range of aftermarket accessories _plus_ the comfort and better weight distribution of more supportive belts and harness. And plate carriers are basically useless to 99% of us, so what's with the fascination of overloading your chest with rigid equipment and preventing you from being able to go prone?
Nice to see ALICE gear still used. I enlisted in 2002 and was trained at Ft. Benning with ALICE gear. It worked. Then Bush sent Billions to the DoD and MOLLE was the new girl in town. I run an AK and I’m looking for AK mag ALICE gear. Thanks for the video.
Merry Christmas to you! Love the video!!! Went to my fav military surplus store and found these in the bin for 10.00. Made a great addition to my combat/survival rig. Swap out my Butt pack on my one rig, and installed the SAW pouch for went I just want to go out for just a few hours. Have to love the ALICE gear.
One thing I found one Ebay is a Eagle Industries SAW pouch. This looks like a oversized M-16 ammo pouch. This might of some intrest to you. These can easily hold 4 40 Magpul magazines or 5 GI style magazines.@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival
You might consider the ALICE buttpack and upgrading it with fastex snaps. It'll triple your load carrying capability and if you use the attachment eyelits with the LCE suspenders it will not sag.
I got a lot of modern gear but to be honest I've kind of thrown it in the corner and reverted back to Old School Alice gear. You can't go wrong with it. And someone who's just starting out trying to put a kit together it is very economically cheap to do.
May 3, 2018---One thing a man can't have too many of is pouches. Got the 100 & 200 round ones along with the MRE pouch. Can't remember which one of these (200 round or MRE pouch) I've got 10 AR-15 loaded magazines in and it has no trouble with the weight or as far as tearing, etc. My MRE pouch holds my Ozark pot set along with a bunch of other stuff in the pouch and pots.
Lol...I like the ALICE stuff. The SAW pouch works well for this use also....I have a buttpack too but it is a little large for a belt, it works better on my LBV88
The FIRST POUCH you displayed is not a radio pouch. The RTO (Radio/Telephone Operator) or "Commo Guy" straps the SINCGARS radio on his rucksack metal frame or he packs it in his backpack along with other commo equipment. I've never seen an RTO carry his SINCGARS radio on his belt, it will be difficult to low crawl and the radio antenna will obstruct his movement. I believe the first pouch you displayed is the first generation GPS pouch. Yes, it's hard to imagine a GPS that big. Yet, during the GPS infancy, the military GPS is that big. They were in service from the first Gulf War up to the mid 2000's when they were eventually replaced with the latest GPS version. Think of the brick cellphones during the early days of the mobile phones, compare to the modern smart phones. The small and long pocket on the right side of the pouch is where you store the GPS battery, which is a non-standard battery type the size of 3 C-battery combined. Regarding the SECOND POUCH, we called that "PORK CHOP" pouch. The 200 round SAW magazine is nicknamed "pork chop" because it resembles....well....a pork chop!!! If I may suggest, get a "BUTT PACK" specifically designed for LCE (Load-Carrying Equipment) web belt and suspenders. The two ends of the suspender connects with the butt pack. A butt pack has larger storage capacity than a pork chop pouch. I find it unusual you actually like the LCE setup. They were still in use during my early days in the military. I thought they were ok, nothing spectacular. We were all ecstatic when the LCE was phased out. Nowadays, nobody will ever get caught wearing them. I have a rucksack full of old LCE equipment in my garage. I think they belong in a museum. I can suggest so many things on how to improve your LCE pack, but I don't wanna disclose too many trade secrets, hehe.
I would have to agree. I am only calling it a radio pouch because it was marketed as such. I remember the first GPS units, my dad had one on a boat he owned in the late 80's and it was large. I also remember the old brick cell phones and also the bag phones, had one of each of them. I do have a buttpack, I have a few videos on how I use it differently. It is presently on an LBV88 vest which I think is a great use for it. I like the LCE stuff, very inexpensive and versatile. Suggest away my brother, that is what helps everyone....
I noticed in the thumbnail you have an OG-106 SAW pouch, or the one with the pull tab that looks similair to the one you went over. I am curious as to where you go it, as I am having major trouble finding one online
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival before the FN Minimi M249 Squad Automatic Weapon , or SAW, was adopted. It was common practice to have a designated “automatic rifleman” in each squad. This soldier would carry extra ammo, including tracers for marking targets, and it was his job to provide full auto supporting fire to both back up the M60 gunner, as well as provide suppressing fire for the squad/platoon/company. When the Army switched from the full auto capable M16A1 to the three round burst M16A2, some units kept A1’s on hand to maintain the automatic rifleman role. That role was ultimately eliminated by the adoption of the M249.
I think that the M60 30cal light Machine gun used a different pouch, the SAW pouch was for 5.56×45mm NATO Belts 2 100rds each where as the m60 was a 7.62×51mm NATO weapon
The dimensions are EXACTLY the right size for 7 Aluminum GI magzaines. Something tells me that its no coincidence that it just so happens to hold the standard infantry combat load...
Are these taller than the 3-cell 30 rd magazine (AR-15 derived) small arms cases? Can't fit MP5 magazines in the latter, so I'm trying to find an alternative that works. Much older H&K stuff, especially for the MP5, commands a shocking premium and rarity. The MOLLE stuff looks *way* past tacky for my taste.
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival Daaamnit! Thanks a ton though, cause' I almost pulled the trigger on buying one. Do you have any idea for an LCE pouch that would be able to hold 30 rd MP5 magazines vertically? Thanks!
@@KlonoaTorqueBow You could always just buy an ALIOCE mag pouch for a few bucks and try it out. If it works, cool, but if not you would not be out a ton of money...and it just may work lol
Solid! I was eyeing one of these but i wasnt shure if i could be used for both magazine types or if i had to build to different sets of webbing for different guns
Just found your channel. Question: could the SAW pouch or radio pouch be sewn to the outside of the of the mil 2 qt canteen cover to make a grab and go survival kit or are the size differences to extreme
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival yeah i thought of that too. But as a grab and go for a quick trip away from camp or vehicle it might be worth it. Thanks for replying
Correct. The . 308 Winchester cartridge case and the 7.62 NATO (7.62 x 51 mm) are the same thing. The M60, officially the Machine Gun, Caliber 7.62 mm, M60, is a family of American general-purpose machine guns firing 7.62×51mm NATO cartridges .
You need to ty-rap in your Alice clips, YT has tutorial's on how to do it, believe me you want to do this, now ask me how I know, lol. Somebody got a really good marine med kit in No. Missouri on public land during hunting season yrs ago.
True, my error. Although not identical, the 7.62×51mm NATO and the commercial .308 Winchester cartridges are similar enough that they can be loaded into rifles chambered for the other round, but the Winchester .308 cartridges are typically loaded to higher pressures than 7.62×51mm NATO cartridges
The 2qt carrier is longer and thinner and the top does not work as well, but it looks a little bigger than the SAW. I like the SAW because it has a belt loop and also the ALICE clips. It hold a lot of stuff also...
May 3, 2018---No, they don't. I've picked up a lot of ex-military stuff from Ebay, Amazon and local Army/Navy store. Check military surplus stores on UA-cam and you'll find a lot of videos where stuff from WW 1 is still available.
Benefit of the saw pouch is that it adds a solid shelf for a ruck or assault pack to rest on it
I really like the SAW pouch. I have 2 of them...
I received these same pouches when I was a saw gunner in SOI. When I got to the fleet I wasn't a saw gunner anymore, but I stilled used the pouches as a GP pouch.
It is a great GP pouch, lots of room
i think most of pouches's purpose are depend on user's demands and situations.
and thanks.it's really helpful for me.
Thanks
Regular Infantry would've used this type of pouch to carry more ammo and have more room for more pouches in the Chest rig, Vest, etc.
Yep, you can use this for a number of things...
I carried two of these 03 plus a leg pouch.
ALICE gear really is hard to beat. Ive modernized with the MOLLE system but I still keep and use all of my old ALICE gear. Its smarter, stronger & offers more utility.
You can kind of mix and match both systems together also...
MOLLE belt & harness is the best of both worlds. You have all the advantages of MOLLE position adjustment _plus_ a wider range of aftermarket accessories _plus_ the comfort and better weight distribution of more supportive belts and harness.
And plate carriers are basically useless to 99% of us, so what's with the fascination of overloading your chest with rigid equipment and preventing you from being able to go prone?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THIS WILL HELP,
Thanks for watching
Nice to see ALICE gear still used. I enlisted in 2002 and was trained at Ft. Benning with ALICE gear. It worked. Then Bush sent Billions to the DoD and MOLLE was the new girl in town. I run an AK and I’m looking for AK mag ALICE gear. Thanks for the video.
Late reply but Thanks!
I got a couple of these. They sit on the top sides of my Alice pack with a couple of canteens.
They are great pouches for bushcrafting...
Merry Christmas to you! Love the video!!! Went to my fav military surplus store and found these in the bin for 10.00. Made a great addition to my combat/survival rig. Swap out my Butt pack on my one rig, and installed the SAW pouch for went I just want to go out for just a few hours. Have to love the ALICE gear.
WOW, now that is a good find! I love the SAW, it holds just enough stuff for a day hike...
One thing I found one Ebay is a Eagle Industries SAW pouch. This looks like a oversized M-16 ammo pouch. This might of some intrest to you. These can easily hold 4 40 Magpul magazines or 5 GI style magazines.@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival
You might consider the ALICE buttpack and upgrading it with fastex snaps. It'll triple your load carrying capability and if you use the attachment eyelits with the LCE suspenders it will not sag.
I have one of those and the suspenders also. I switch back and forth with rigging...
3 river blades he uses this pouch for his mountain house meals, 6 double servings I believe, Great video BTW
Thanks. it will really hold a lot of stuff....
You can perfectly fit five AK mags in one.
Nice...
I got a lot of modern gear but to be honest I've kind of thrown it in the corner and reverted back to Old School Alice gear. You can't go wrong with it. And someone who's just starting out trying to put a kit together it is very economically cheap to do.
Yep love my ALICE stuff for bushcrafting
so nice bag that you have , looking very handly for hiking and thanks for info.
Thanks!
May 3, 2018---One thing a man can't have too many of is pouches. Got the 100 & 200 round ones along with the MRE pouch. Can't remember which one of these (200 round or MRE pouch) I've got 10 AR-15 loaded magazines in and it has no trouble with the weight or as far as tearing, etc. My MRE pouch holds my Ozark pot set along with a bunch of other stuff in the pouch and pots.
You got that right! I have a myriad of different pouches for my ALICE stuff...
That first pouch is a plugger GPS pouch
I made up an alice belt with suspenders. Old guys and their toys :) I got the butt pack but I like the SAW pouch.
Lol...I like the ALICE stuff. The SAW pouch works well for this use also....I have a buttpack too but it is a little large for a belt, it works better on my LBV88
The FIRST POUCH you displayed is not a radio pouch. The RTO (Radio/Telephone Operator) or "Commo Guy" straps the SINCGARS radio on his rucksack metal frame or he packs it in his backpack along with other commo equipment. I've never seen an RTO carry his SINCGARS radio on his belt, it will be difficult to low crawl and the radio antenna will obstruct his movement. I believe the first pouch you displayed is the first generation GPS pouch. Yes, it's hard to imagine a GPS that big. Yet, during the GPS infancy, the military GPS is that big. They were in service from the first Gulf War up to the mid 2000's when they were eventually replaced with the latest GPS version. Think of the brick cellphones during the early days of the mobile phones, compare to the modern smart phones. The small and long pocket on the right side of the pouch is where you store the GPS battery, which is a non-standard battery type the size of 3 C-battery combined.
Regarding the SECOND POUCH, we called that "PORK CHOP" pouch. The 200 round SAW magazine is nicknamed "pork chop" because it resembles....well....a pork chop!!!
If I may suggest, get a "BUTT PACK" specifically designed for LCE (Load-Carrying Equipment) web belt and suspenders. The two ends of the suspender connects with the butt pack. A butt pack has larger storage capacity than a pork chop pouch. I find it unusual you actually like the LCE setup. They were still in use during my early days in the military. I thought they were ok, nothing spectacular. We were all ecstatic when the LCE was phased out. Nowadays, nobody will ever get caught wearing them. I have a rucksack full of old LCE equipment in my garage. I think they belong in a museum.
I can suggest so many things on how to improve your LCE pack, but I don't wanna disclose too many trade secrets, hehe.
I would have to agree. I am only calling it a radio pouch because it was marketed as such. I remember the first GPS units, my dad had one on a boat he owned in the late 80's and it was large. I also remember the old brick cell phones and also the bag phones, had one of each of them. I do have a buttpack, I have a few videos on how I use it differently. It is presently on an LBV88 vest which I think is a great use for it. I like the LCE stuff, very inexpensive and versatile. Suggest away my brother, that is what helps everyone....
Edgar Marsalla is a dickhead
@@gregflores8959 How many years did you serve and in what MOS?
John Sherwood sent me. Im into mil surplus and this was a good review. I'll be looking at your other vids Subbed
Thanks man
Good stuff. It's shape says that machine gunners can also carry big mags in it.👍
Right on
I noticed in the thumbnail you have an OG-106 SAW pouch, or the one with the pull tab that looks similair to the one you went over. I am curious as to where you go it, as I am having major trouble finding one online
Same one in the thumbnail that I showed. I got it on ebay...
Those bags are good for everything
The SAW pouch is really useful...
Back in Vietnam War, I don't remember which time period, the SAW gunner carried an M16 with a bipod
Yep, that is what I researched also
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival before the FN Minimi M249 Squad Automatic Weapon , or SAW, was adopted. It was common practice to have a designated “automatic rifleman” in each squad. This soldier would carry extra ammo, including tracers for marking targets, and it was his job to provide full auto supporting fire to both back up the M60 gunner, as well as provide suppressing fire for the squad/platoon/company. When the Army switched from the full auto capable M16A1 to the three round burst M16A2, some units kept A1’s on hand to maintain the automatic rifleman role. That role was ultimately eliminated by the adoption of the M249.
I think that the M60 30cal light Machine gun used a different pouch, the SAW pouch was for 5.56×45mm NATO Belts 2 100rds each where as the m60 was a 7.62×51mm NATO weapon
Yes the M60 pouch was different, this one is a 5.56
The dimensions are EXACTLY the right size for 7 Aluminum GI magzaines. Something tells me that its no coincidence that it just so happens to hold the standard infantry combat load...
I love em, I have 2 of them...
Are these taller than the 3-cell 30 rd magazine (AR-15 derived) small arms cases? Can't fit MP5 magazines in the latter, so I'm trying to find an alternative that works. Much older H&K stuff, especially for the MP5, commands a shocking premium and rarity. The MOLLE stuff looks *way* past tacky for my taste.
It is pretty much the same dimension, although since the closure is velcro you can adjust it slightly...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival Daaamnit! Thanks a ton though, cause' I almost pulled the trigger on buying one. Do you have any idea for an LCE pouch that would be able to hold 30 rd MP5 magazines vertically? Thanks!
@@KlonoaTorqueBow You could always just buy an ALIOCE mag pouch for a few bucks and try it out. If it works, cool, but if not you would not be out a ton of money...and it just may work lol
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival Which one do you mean?
@@KlonoaTorqueBow Just the standard 3 magazine one. You can find them all over ebay and Amazon for about $7
We're these pouches round desert storm or it came along later?
I think they were around at that time...
Clever
Thanks!
Enjoyed the video keep up the good work be blessed
Thanks man! You have a nice channel....
Have you done a video on a low profile range belt with ALICE?
I have not done that but i may soon...
Cool. Im putting one together. A rapid response low profile / rangebelt. For full size gun carry and AR mags.
Do you reckon it would hold ak mags decently well?
It should...
Solid! I was eyeing one of these but i wasnt shure if i could be used for both magazine types or if i had to build to different sets of webbing for different guns
@@thelostcomrad came here for the same question haha. Well after 2 years, have you confirmed if it can hold AK mags well?
Just found your channel. Question: could the SAW pouch or radio pouch be sewn to the outside of the of the mil 2 qt canteen cover to make a grab and go survival kit or are the size differences to extreme
I think that you could do it, but it may be a little unwieldy
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival yeah i thought of that too. But as a grab and go for a quick trip away from camp or vehicle it might be worth it. Thanks for replying
I have found out that for the same amount of money I could have bought a brand new British PLCE.
Maybe. I like the US stuff though...
Have to get me one of them
M60 held 7.62
Correct. The . 308 Winchester cartridge case and the 7.62 NATO (7.62 x 51 mm) are the same thing. The M60, officially the Machine Gun, Caliber 7.62 mm, M60, is a family of American general-purpose machine guns firing 7.62×51mm NATO cartridges .
The radio pouch is usgi stuff, right? Please show me its nsn number, thank you
Yes it is. I will try to dig it out and get it for you
Do you have product link of it?
Great Vid! Another must added to my list and also added a sub to your channel Thanks, Bob
Thanks! The 200 rnd SAW works great on the ALICE belt for general use...
Are there any online sources for ALICE pouches, double pistol mag pouches, SAW pouches in OD, Tan, black?
Absolutely! Check the links below my videos, you can get them all from Amazon, ebay, etc.
Where did you find the radio pouch and how much was it? Also, where can I get a cheap saw pouch, I keep finding them for 25 dollars
Sportsman's guide
@@farmerwayne1404 thanks
I got most of the stuff from Amazon and ebay...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival thank you
How much ammo does a SAW Gunner carries in battle ?
The gunner's basic load is 600 rounds of linked ammunition.
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival that's 600rounds of freedom. Taliban smithereens!
Thanks for the info.
Nice!
Thanks!
3:45 colombian woodland acu pattern
Acu stands for army combat uniform so that's not the correct terminology
Were do you buy one at
You should be able to find one on ebay...
You need to ty-rap in your Alice clips, YT has tutorial's on how to do it, believe me you want to do this, now ask me how I know, lol. Somebody got a really good marine med kit in No. Missouri on public land during hunting season yrs ago.
I usually tie mine down. I have not done it yet on this rig...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival Good to hear, you don't want to go thru what I did.
Russian mosquito net hammock???
Would probably fit
the end is coming, run forrest run
M60 fire 7.62X51
True, my error. Although not identical, the 7.62×51mm NATO and the commercial .308 Winchester cartridges are similar enough that they can be loaded into rifles chambered for the other round, but the Winchester .308 cartridges are typically loaded to higher pressures than 7.62×51mm NATO cartridges
...hmmm, let me try that with the 308 mags!!! THANKS!!! =)
Go for it! I bet they fit...
Sir. Quick question.. Which is bigger, this (SAW) or the 2 QT canteen Carrier?
The 2qt carrier is longer and thinner and the top does not work as well, but it looks a little bigger than the SAW. I like the SAW because it has a belt loop and also the ALICE clips. It hold a lot of stuff also...
Thanks so much. I couldn't find any saw pouches local to me, so I opted for a Condor MA2-498 ammo pouch. Hold 6 full AR Mags
real military pouches cost around $70
May 3, 2018---No, they don't. I've picked up a lot of ex-military stuff from Ebay, Amazon and local Army/Navy store. Check military surplus stores on UA-cam and you'll find a lot of videos where stuff from WW 1 is still available.
You're getting ripped off if that's the case. The military never even paid 70 a pouch. Why should you? I've found these unissued for $8
you can get some real quality foreign military gear for cheap. sportsmans guide website.
And if you fall on your back your spine is done
Probably so if you have mags in there but this is gonna be used for hiking stuff rather than mags.
some chinese knock off. not even close to what we used. if its got buttons its wrong. buttons went out decades ago.
JB I agree. I didnt say it was a real one lol
JB im no expert but most every saw pouch i seen (claiming to be mil-surplus) on the net has a button like this.
Not really though my brothers gear (hes in the Army) has buttons on some of the pouches