I love how this was presented. Dr. Strange saying he has come to bargain at first sounds more like he's come to plead. But with each loop he becomes more confident until you hear it in his voice the bargain will be on his terms.
This is still my favorite Marvel film because of the writing, pacing, performances, digital wizardry (which WASN'T simply flashy just for the sake of flashiness), costuming, props, the sound, and the music. Really fantastic.
Bro is a God, come to end the Earth and literally can’t be stopped unless he chooses, but got beaten by something even more invisible than the wind, a basic measurement to say…
Most of marvel movies are bad, but i like dr strange first movie except this scene is bullshit since rhomamu can just torment dr. until he gives up instead of just killing him. But then audience had to think a bit first. The same strategy used chainsaw man against infinity demon but he won by tormenting the demon until he gives up, enemy could do it also but then it would make sense and it cant since its MARVEL.
@alexandersebela370 I'm pretty sure it worked because the concept of time, especially looping time, being forced on Dormmamu was alien to him. It's like us trying to observe Cthulu, his mind was struggling to handle it. And it was made pretty clear that he TRIED to torment him into submission but Strange became more and more galvanized as time went on. He made it clear he would suffer for eternity to stop his invasion and that there was no chance of making him submit. Much like in in Chainsaw Man, the villain came across someone who could outlast him for eternity. In this case, however, it was the one enforcing an eternity.
It's unclear how long this lasted, but I like to think this actually explains his apparent power upgrade between this movie and his later appearances. He was practicing his magic defending himself from Dormamu, and for all we know he was at it for perhaps years, maybe centuries.
like the movie "Groundhog Day" where the MC goes through the same day over and over and learning everything, we dont know how long it took but he managed to be perfect at everything he could
3:41 I think the reason dormammu kept his end of the bargain and never came back is because he was probably terrified strange would trap him in the loop again, forever
@Slowpoke3x 😂 The pinky swear killed me but yea, God's and Demons words basically become contracts. By agreeing never too show up again he forced a contract , he probably will have too wait for strange too die before it become null and void.
No way that didn't happen knowing Strange personality, bet there is even a time when Dormammu switch place with Strange and say "Strange, I've come to bargain" then Strange "no, you come to di- wait, that's my line"
Everyone loves what Ironman did, but people don't realize this is the biggest sacrifice in the entire MCU. He spent thousands of years getting killed and tortured over and over, and he was willing to do it indefinitely.
This is probably the best ending to an MCU movie because it doesn’t end with such a huge fight scene or one big bang, Dr. Strange is literally just here outsmarting the villain. You don’t see that often in these movies.
And then they give us a reject of reed richards in multiverse of madness, that movie was so trash, and i was extremely hyped for it after watching the first dr strange... Hopefully, Deadpool and Wolverine will be the saviours of marvel, especially wolverine, dude singlehandedly saved marvel a shit ton of times. I still wanna see Spiderman Vs Deadpool fight, 2 of the biggest rivals in marvel comics
Me and the guy I saw it with in the theatre laughed our heads off at the "what's happening?!" the second time it looped. Thankfully we both laugh silently.
I like to believe that if Dormamu did not accept the bargain, Strange would have constantly trained from these until he could best him. As we have seen from What If, he’s capable of building up power when he needs it.
Honestly, this has to be the explanation, how he'll get rid of Dormammu in the future, actually being trained through that and all. That is, if Dormammu actually intends to fight Strange again.
@@d4rksonic474 except that if Strange were to fight him again then he'd have to do it without the time stone, granted we know that he's a lot more powerful now than he was back in his 1st movie but even he still struggles when fighting against others with magical abilities and he still can be outplayed/outsmarted like in No Way Home.
@@d4rksonic474 I doubt that's gonna happen, I think the fact that he had his hands up making signs when he posed his demands means he cast a spell of some sort, possibly using the time stone, to make sure he has a fallback measure if dormamu breaks the deal. Of course, writers have retconned shit in the past so who knows, but I don't find it likely.
That was Strange's groundhog day. I wonder how many variations of the Dormammu confrontation he has actually relived before the dark lord has had enough
Strange never planned on beating Dormamu. At this point Strange is a decent sorcerer at best while Dormamu is a literal god. No matter how many time loops he goes through there’s a hard cap on how powerful he can get without more information and training about the intricacies of magic. The reason he’s so confident that Dormamu will concede is that he understands having an ego so big you think you’re a god. Up until the Sorcerer Supreme gave him the “This isn’t about you” speech on her death bed he was as conceited and egotistical as this literal god. So he knows the way to beat Dormamu is the exact same way he was broken: take control away from them. The simple act of telling Dormamu he’s holding them prisoner tells them they lack all control. Dormamu gives up after this because they can’t accept not having control
This is why I love Dr.Strange cause when it comes down to it he’s a hero that saved the day by annoying an otherworldly entity into submission and that gains my respect
Why was he sure Dormamu will keep hist world? what if as soon as Dr Strange breaks the loop Dormamu kills him and attacks the universe? Is there something in Dormamu's universe that prevents him from lying?
@@jaimeduncan6167 It's a deal with the devil type situation, a breach in contract would have very negative consequences for the one who breaks the deal. dormamu could kill strange after the deal was struck, but he can't just invade anyway.
I like to believe that dying billions of times over thousands of years while using magic to try and defend himself gave him more time to practice and refine his magic powers than any other sorcerer could dream of.
@@GowSpeedrunsAndMemes That's what happens when you keep making too many movies in a short period of time and pressuring your CGI team do finish all the CGI work in an even shorter period of time, at the same time.
@@thedev.student1424 coupled that with bubble universe of melody sheep, and Einstein anywhere on the universe qunatum entanglement of a coin side flipped
@@schumannresonanceswithverte no, i think its just fine. Its “Dark Dimension” and it IS dark. Its also chaotic, its distorted and it is also beautiful. After all it has a unique appeal, which is good.
@@MrVlad12340 agree with this 100% the dark dimension is meant to be bizarre, chaotic, and if viewed as strangely beautiful, perhaps it is only by insidious design, like the drops of fake nectar inside a carnivorous plant that is meant to trap insects looking for a meal. Beguiling, but deadly.
Wait, if Dormammu remembers killing Strange, then clearly Strange remembers dying everytime as well. He literally remembers being killed hundreds of time by Dormammu - stabbed, hacked, crushed, burned, atomized. And yet he goes around without being crazy from PTSD? Damn, bro, this guy's got a stronger mind than even Wolverine.
My theory on why this works on Dormammu and wouldn't work on later villains is that because he's on a higher dimension of consciousness he is aware of the time loop, notice how strange never references any previous loop, he is the same every time until Dormammu interrupts him, for strange each loop feels like the first time and he's simply responding to how Dormammu interacts with him. He wins by being a lesser and more limited being than Dormammu, turning his weakness (or lack of higher consciousness) into a strength. (also strange only does the time loop because this realm is timeless to begin with, so he's less likely to break reality)
@@Adaephonable Strange says “beyond time” before flying into his realm, this is why dormammu could perceive the loop while many other lower dimensional villains wouldn’t.
@@JulzGein_ I think thats just him pointing out that no matter how much he is tortured in any loop it won't be enough to get him to stop the loop to escape it, like he doesn't fear anything dormammu can do because "pains an old friend", just my read on it tbh.
If you think about it Dr.Strange was the first MCU character to actually defeat his villain without killing him or making him vanish in some kind of way. This "fight" or ending was trully original and it showed us the power of the time stone.
i find this scene amazing for Strange's character development in this movie. he went from selfish and not wanting to risk anything for reputation, to being narcasistic and self loathing, spending everything he has, just to fix his hands, to selfless and powerful. literally putting his life on the line, for the survival of others.
The writing of his character arc was extremely powerful. Sure, Rachel McAdams was underused, but her character served as the NON-narcissistic counterpoint. It's a bummer how everything turned into a digital circus of childish stupidity after "Endgame". 🙄
I wish this scene illustrated exactly how much time had passed in the time loop, in my mind I see it this way. He really did use the time loop to train and fight but ultimately knew he would lose head to head. So he likely spent eons in Dormamu's realm to the point the dark god was legit starting to go insane hence why he begged to be let free from the loop.
Pretty much agree. He was in the loop so long a god with no concept of time got BORED of killing him. Dr strange died millions of times. Maybe billions.
I think this was left open to interpretation, and doing so improved the storytelling. Underwrites the degree of sacrifice that Strange was willing to go through to defeat Dormammu. Once you start piecing it together, you're like Ohhhh wait.. Strange made a being that was omnipotent in his own realm to admit defeat and ask for terms? It couldn't have been just the few times that we observed.. the filmmakers have implied that Strange suffered death and reset countless times in interviews. This training allowed him to explore and endure the countless future scenarios where he was eventually able to forsee the unique outcome that allowed Thanos to be defeated.
well I mean I don't know about reading to much into it. I think it was just the simple noble act of being in that loop, with it on the table that he'd be there for eternity if he didn't break through to him, was what was really needed to be conveyed here. I think that guy caught on real quick a few times after dr strange told him "ur my prisoner lol" so I mean how futile would that be if he just kept killing him over and over and over again. couldn't have taken long to drive the guy insane
This is pure classic Dr. Strange. Straight out of the comics. Stephen can't overpower Dormammu, but with a little prep time, and some cleverness, he can outwit him. Steve Ditko would be proud of this ending. It's even trippy and psychadelic, just how he liked it.
2:57. This is such a chilling statement. Not because it is threatening, or anything. Just the lack of anger or passion in his voice. He just sounds resigned, like he is expecting to do this forever, and is willing to accept it. Forget Thanos, Dr. Strange was the truly "Inevitable" person.
Yeah lmao, but Dr Strange doesn't have the Time Stone in the Eye of Agamotto, and Dormammu probably has PTSD about it, so Dormammu would probably kill him the first view of a pixel of him
Two years later in another timeline, Strange tries the same method in order to save Christine, but winds up driving himself insane and kickstarting the destruction of his own universe.
He couldn't save Christine without causing a time paradox, her death is what led Strange onto the path of becoming the eventual Sorcerer Supreme. That's why no matter how many times Strange altered the circumstances surrounding her death the universe would find a way to make certain that her death was unavoidable in order to avoid causing a paradox, of course we all know what happens after Strange saves her.
@@Tim7318-3 tbh honest it’s kinda sad that the watcher never really restored his universe even at the end of the show after he practically saved the entire multiverse
@@zantaazapre2659 I don't believe that the watcher has the ability to "restore" a universe, he's mainly there to watch over the multiverse hence the name/title. It's pretty much the main reason why he sends Black Widow to a different universe where her friends are still alive albeit as different universe counterparts since nothing was waiting for her back in her own universe; if it truly was within his power to restore a universe then why would he have sent her to a different universe instead of restoring her own? To quote: Strange - "You're a god, you can undo this!" Watcher - "I'm not a god, and neither are you."
@@zantaazapre2659 It's right there in his title, Watcher... His role is to record how all events play out in all universes. The only reason he intervened in the 'what if' series is because all of existence across all the universes was at risk of being lost forever, along with his life and purpose.
And his learning more about dormamu, if strange came out of that finally understanding all of dormamu's weaknesses, he would be insanely god like powerful
God that is easily one of my favorite Marvel moments ever. It's so cold blooded "You bargain or you remain trapped forever." Or the more famous quote "I'm not stuck in here with you, you're stick in here with me!"
Also just before Dormammu says that the way Dr Strange says I've come to bargain it's like he's already starting to find it funny with and Dormammu being fully aware that this scene is looping.
Fun fact: Benedict Cumberbatch also provided the motion capture and voice for Dormammu (electronically altered, obviously) So in a weird way Dormammu and Doctor Strange are mirror images of each other.
I think he realized no matter what strange would never break the loop, he tried to get him to go insane but that didn’t work either. Strange is arguably the most powerful MCU character for not defeating dormamu but simply bargaining with such a god like creature.
He arguably has the best mental fortitude out of any MCU here. You must have an unbreakable mind to be willing to die countless times for who knows how long.
Honestly this was one of the best scenes in the entire MCU. The main character was faced with a foe who they could literally never win against. He didn't even have a chance. Dormammu was just too powerful, very much a common human versus a literal God. No hope of success through victory because victory was literally impossible. So he had to be clever and use the only thing at his disposal that could achieve success and even then he could only ensure success by letting go of his pride and being willing to lose forever just so the Earth would stay safe...and so he succeeded by failing. All the more powerful when it's shown that be KNOWS going in that he can never be victorious. He was fully prepared to sacrifice himself to an eternity of torture. Which given his completely egocentrentic existence beforehand, is quite a journey. I do kinda wish it went on for another few minutes though and had short clips of him wavering under torture just wanting the pain to end but summoning up his reserves of willpower to force himself to keep going...that way we could have SEEN that he wasn't as fearless as he seemed and he did CARE whether he suffered, but simply cared about the Earth itself more.
This was not the best MCU film, but this is one of my top 10 MCU scenes. It has a "Dr Who" vibe to it. No big smashing battle, but a clever twist of wits.
It's the way it so perfectly drives home the point that Dormammu is stuck against this immovable WALL of a situation. Like no, we are going to BARGAIN muddafucka
I like to imagine another ending where they do it so many times that Dormmamu just starts to open up and in one scene just somehow sits down and talks about his childhood and how his parents didn't give him much attention
I believe this was taken from the comics, but in the comics this is how Strange became so gifted in the Mystic Arts so quickly in earth time. because in the loop he spent like a thousand years, or a long time in the loop fighting the Dark Lord. So like you see Strange die in all those ways. its because he learn to adapt, and Dormamu has to keep changing it up, but in the end just making Strange strong and smarter.
The best ending to an MCU movie since Iron Man. The hero doesn't beat the bad guy through brute force, he beats them by outsmarting them. He knows he can't win physically, but he doesn't have to: he just has to be willing to lose for infinity.
@@judeh8160 You thought the first Marvel movie, the movie where there was no definition of 'fairly standard Marvel stuff', was 'fairly standard Marvel stuff'? Compared with what, the ungestated Marvel movies from your mind's womb?
@@chemistrykit920 Regardless of whether or not it stood out at the time, by comparison to the rest of the MCU now, it was generic. Nothing about it is unique or creative like Doctor Strange vs Dormammu is.
@@judeh8160 Back then it was hella great. This was before all the marvel stuff after all. So while it might seem generic now, it was groundbreaking at the time
@@judeh8160 the ending of Iron Man wasn't all that crazy, but I think Tony Stark's character arc was one of if not the best in the MCU. it felt more genuine, realistic, and complex. now we're used to a bunch of crazy whacky superhero stuff, but Iron Man was just a rich jackass that got a harsh reality check and a second chance.
This scene is like a dark souls boss encounter. Once you start every defeat sets you back to the nearest "checkpoint" strange made his own "save file" and reloads. But the boss has enough awareness to realize!
I wonder how many people know that this entire design - set, colors, depiction of both - is STRAIGHT out of the original comic book this scene came from. I remember the actual issue, reading it, as a kid in the late 70s/early 80s. They did an amazing job. Still my favorite Marvel movie.
1:13 people underestimate exactly how important this moment is as we don’t know exactly how long this goes on (I’ve guessed months maybe years but we have never got a 100% answer) and with each loop Strange gets stronger and learns a little more this is basically that moment in anime where the hero goes off training (in dragonball z inside of a time chamber very much like this loop).
Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain. Dormammu: *_You've come to DIE... Your world is now my world, like ALL worlds!_* Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain. Dormammu: *_You've come to DIE... Your world is now my- what is this… illusion?_* Doctor Strange: No, this is real. Dormammu: *_GOOD..._* Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain. Dormammu: *_What is happening?!_* Doctor Strange: Just as you gave Kaecillius powers from your dimension, I brought a little power from mine. This is time. Endless, looped, time. Dormammu: *_YOU… DARE?!_* Doctor Strange: Oh f- Dormammu, I've come to bargain. Dormammu: *_You cannot do this forever!_* Doctor Strange: Actually, I can. This is how things are now, you and me, trapped in this moment endlessly. Dormammu: *_Then you will spend eternity DYING!_* Doctor Strange: Yes, but everyone on Earth will live. Dormammu: *_But you will SUFFER!_* Doctor Strange: Pain's an old friend... Dormammu, I've come to bargain. Dormammu: *_End this!_* Doctor Strange: Dormammu- Dormammu- Dormammu! Dormammu: *_You will never win!_* Doctor Strange: No, but I can lose again, and again, and again, and again, forever, and that makes you my prisoner. Dormammu: *_NO. STOP!!! MAKE THIS STOP! SET ME FREE!!!_* Doctor Strange: No, I've come to bargain. Dormammu: *_WHAT DO YOU WANT?!_* Doctor Strange: Take your zealots from the Earth, end your assault on my world and NEVER come back. Do it, and I'll break the loop.
I loved this movie so much because Dr. Strange isn't a hero who solves every problem with raw firepower. He THINKS. When he faced a foe that was unbeatable in combat he didn't try to beat him in combat. He beat him in patience. In tolerance. In self sacrifice. He knew Dormmamu would NEVER tolerate being caged, especially by a Mortal.
Keep in mind he’s been doing this for a very long time during which he spent mastering his sorcery which explains on how well he was when he fought Thanos
speaking of which this wouldn’t have worked against Thanos because Thanos would’ve never given up for those who can’t put two and two together at least lol
Imagine in the first time doctor strange said I’ve come to bargain and Dormamu was like “ok what you want?” and then doctor strange is like “you were supposed to kill me bro.”
What I love is that Dormammu never asked what Strange wants for who knows how long. He probably killed him millions, maybe even billions of times but never bothered to ask what he wants until the very end
Bro if he comes back make it by sheer accident and ‘oh… oh, I was tricked’ and he just zooms out of there before he’s caught in a loop. Or have him appear on another world where he finds strange and just have someone send a message to him and only talk by that just to avoid a time loop, and help strange get the hell out of there.
this is just gonna lead to more power scaling, since these days the only way to beat someone is by killing them. dormammu was allowed to be a huge threat without there needing to be the brute force to kill him
I mean Clea in his daughter (however that works) and is basically Dr. Strange's "true love interest" and had a cameo after the awful third eye in the second one. So I imagine they are at least going to have a brief encounter. If they'd actually work on that and making a good movie instead of more iron-spider and endless other crap that is 1/2 finished or nobody cares about.
I love how Dormamu starts off thinking that Strange was making a meaningless sacrifice, only to find out that Dormamu was screwed himself. Sure, he could kill Strange forever, but that means he'll never leave the timeloop that he couldn't escape from.(or he would've already, instead of meeting Strange's demands at the end)
I like that Dormamu immediately screamed YOU DARE and crushed him after Dr.Strange explained what he had done. Dormamu knew from that point he was beaten. If The Dark Lord himself has to utter those words you´ve been evil. ultimate checkmate by Dr.Strange.
I remember thinking they'd written themselves into a corner because obviously there had to be a confrontation with Dormamu but they'd pushed so hard the idea that there was no way to actually defeat Dormamu that there was no way for Strange to prevail without a complete ass-pull. And then as i realized what Strange was up to I quickly went from exasperation to 'holy shit they found a way this is excellent'. Stuff like this shows you why the MCU was so beloved in its golden age.
Doctor Strange really did have the advantage here. Because he kept dying, I don't think he actually remembered the previous loops, so he didn't suffer the infinity that he imposed.
1:34 is the best part imho. That tiny bit of harpsichord music as he appears for a third time; it almost feels like a playful taunt as it becomes clear to the audience what Strange is planning to do in this moment.
I wonder how long this went on for…an immortal being has nothing but time, so atleast hundreds of thousands of times before he ever really cared and that even seems low…and Doctor strange remembers each time as well but is unbothered. The mental training and fortitude alone shows how worthy he is of the title Sorcerer Supreme.
This works with Dormammu because he's a being outside of time, his memories don't get wiped out after the resets, he lives through all of them. Doing this against, say, Thanos, would be pointless as he wouldn't remember the loops.
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I like to think that Dr. Strange was the first hero in the MCU to drop a save file before entering the final boss fight.
That’s why I have noticed games like god of war and marvel had the save points right outside boss fights 😂
Constantly reloading the savestate.
Basically Dr. Strange was save scumming LOL
He really quicksaved to annoy a god-like being
Never underestimate the ''Save File''.
I remember when this scene got so much hate while I always found it was a unique and interesting way to get the best of a villain.
I found it hilarious lol
Defeating an all powerful deity by pissing him off.
This scene got hate? Bullshit. If it did then people really didn't understand it.
I think it's brilliant.
@@Flamyll Brilliant is a stretch. It’s funny.
@@wildfire9280 He wins basically by Savingbthe Game before a Boss fight. It's very clever!
I love how this was presented. Dr. Strange saying he has come to bargain at first sounds more like he's come to plead. But with each loop he becomes more confident until you hear it in his voice the bargain will be on his terms.
This is still my favorite Marvel film because of the writing, pacing, performances, digital wizardry (which WASN'T simply flashy just for the sake of flashiness), costuming, props, the sound, and the music. Really fantastic.
Bro is a God, come to end the Earth and literally can’t be stopped unless he chooses, but got beaten by something even more invisible than the wind, a basic measurement to say…
Going from 'Please, God, let this work' to having the superior bargaining position.
Most of marvel movies are bad, but i like dr strange first movie except this scene is bullshit since rhomamu can just torment dr. until he gives up instead of just killing him. But then audience had to think a bit first. The same strategy used chainsaw man against infinity demon but he won by tormenting the demon until he gives up, enemy could do it also but then it would make sense and it cant since its MARVEL.
@alexandersebela370 I'm pretty sure it worked because the concept of time, especially looping time, being forced on Dormmamu was alien to him. It's like us trying to observe Cthulu, his mind was struggling to handle it. And it was made pretty clear that he TRIED to torment him into submission but Strange became more and more galvanized as time went on. He made it clear he would suffer for eternity to stop his invasion and that there was no chance of making him submit. Much like in in Chainsaw Man, the villain came across someone who could outlast him for eternity. In this case, however, it was the one enforcing an eternity.
Meanwhile, in an alternate universe
"Strange, I've come to die"
"You've come to bargain"
Maybe that did happened in there lmao it just didn't show XD
Lol
Are there alternate dormamus
@@stevefilms1997I don’t think so.
He has his own dimension which makes him apart from the timelines.
I believe.
lol
I just love Dormammu's design here, the fabric of reality just distorts and vibrates in his presence
Though with all that power he still couldnt avoid being annoyed by dr strange
@@JohnCautionSign doctor strange had the incredible ability of... terribly unfair magic
Haha
@@Guest-lm5qp ah yes. the power of love, friendship, and bullshit lol
@@voidrendx6601 No. It's called the power of time loop and INFINITE PATIENCE.
It's unclear how long this lasted, but I like to think this actually explains his apparent power upgrade between this movie and his later appearances. He was practicing his magic defending himself from Dormamu, and for all we know he was at it for perhaps years, maybe centuries.
Bro annoyed the fuck out of God for decades
I like to think the same thing. Nothing like some reps to improve your spell-casting.
like the movie "Groundhog Day" where the MC goes through the same day over and over and learning everything, we dont know how long it took but he managed to be perfect at everything he could
@@juanarredondo9763 That and edge of tomorrow!
But if his memory also reset how did he gain experience?
That moment just gives me goosebumps. I love how confident he is in that last line.
"SET ME FREE!"
"No. I've come to BARGAIN."
Imagine beings THIS CONFIDENT in front of a powerful being
It’s sounds like in 2003s Hulk movie when Absorbing man was OD’ing on Hulks power “It’s too much! Make it stop!”
The Motown version of Dormammu: Set me free, why don't cha babe? Get out [of] my life, why don't cha babe? ... You just keep me hangin' on.
...and the musical score at 3:24. Strange just became THE BOSS.
@@sumbigdumkunt TAKE IT... TAKE IT ALLLLL
3:41 I think the reason dormammu kept his end of the bargain and never came back is because he was probably terrified strange would trap him in the loop again, forever
yea, he was i think
I'm pretty sure he's literally obligated to follow the bargain. He'll probably die or something like that if he breaks his end of the deal.
Or maybe the conceptual weight on a infinity stone was behind the bargain so he couldn't break it even if he tried
I think it was and super special pinky swear. He even used his index finger and both of his pinkies. That is unbreakable.
@Slowpoke3x 😂 The pinky swear killed me but yea, God's and Demons words basically become contracts.
By agreeing never too show up again he forced a contract , he probably will have too wait for strange too die before it become null and void.
There's no freaking way he went through this countless times and didn't say "Bargain! I've come to Dormammu!"
I mean nothing implies that he didn't it's just that marvel didn't show us it
No way that didn't happen knowing Strange personality, bet there is even a time when Dormammu switch place with Strange and say "Strange, I've come to bargain" then Strange "no, you come to di- wait, that's my line"
LMAO
"Dormamu, I've come to die"
"You've come to bargain"
I think that the entire point of the loop is that he is basically forced to say the line
Everyone loves what Ironman did, but people don't realize this is the biggest sacrifice in the entire MCU. He spent thousands of years getting killed and tortured over and over, and he was willing to do it indefinitely.
And we can’t forget that dormammu was gonna take over the whole world and move it to the dark dimension
That's why I love strange
Thousands of years?
That what you equate a few minutes of screen time too?
Ok.
@@saltywater5097 Well the movie certainly wasn't going to show him dying a 1000 times.
@@saltywater5097 well there are longer time skips sometimes
This is probably the best ending to an MCU movie because it doesn’t end with such a huge fight scene or one big bang, Dr. Strange is literally just here outsmarting the villain. You don’t see that often in these movies.
And then they give us a reject of reed richards in multiverse of madness, that movie was so trash, and i was extremely hyped for it after watching the first dr strange... Hopefully, Deadpool and Wolverine will be the saviours of marvel, especially wolverine, dude singlehandedly saved marvel a shit ton of times. I still wanna see Spiderman Vs Deadpool fight, 2 of the biggest rivals in marvel comics
Dormammu could just torture him slowly or break his oath...
@@Сайтамен True but he was new to time so he didn't think that much about it
@@Сайтамен he tried this in the comics and it was to Strangers win because he just want to keep him there forever.
@@Elimondex Who wanted?
You can hear how genuinely confused dormomu is the first time it looped, its funny for some reason
Me and the guy I saw it with in the theatre laughed our heads off at the "what's happening?!" the second time it looped. Thankfully we both laugh silently.
Lmao yeah. He started in character, and then was like wtf?! 😂
Dormamu? I’ve come to spread my Dr.Strangussy.
Never underestimate the power of being really annoying
My little sister has mastered that power a long time ago -_-
Deadpool would be proud.
damm ur a teemo mains for sure
What's so good about being annoying I mean I can't even stand my annoying brother
@@husseinkassem6145 being annoying is how strange saved the universe
I like to believe that if Dormamu did not accept the bargain, Strange would have constantly trained from these until he could best him. As we have seen from What If, he’s capable of building up power when he needs it.
Honestly, this has to be the explanation, how he'll get rid of Dormammu in the future, actually being trained through that and all. That is, if Dormammu actually intends to fight Strange again.
@@d4rksonic474 except that if Strange were to fight him again then he'd have to do it without the time stone, granted we know that he's a lot more powerful now than he was back in his 1st movie but even he still struggles when fighting against others with magical abilities and he still can be outplayed/outsmarted like in No Way Home.
@@d4rksonic474 I doubt that's gonna happen, I think the fact that he had his hands up making signs when he posed his demands means he cast a spell of some sort, possibly using the time stone, to make sure he has a fallback measure if dormamu breaks the deal.
Of course, writers have retconned shit in the past so who knows, but I don't find it likely.
That was Strange's groundhog day. I wonder how many variations of the Dormammu confrontation he has actually relived before the dark lord has had enough
Strange never planned on beating Dormamu. At this point Strange is a decent sorcerer at best while Dormamu is a literal god. No matter how many time loops he goes through there’s a hard cap on how powerful he can get without more information and training about the intricacies of magic. The reason he’s so confident that Dormamu will concede is that he understands having an ego so big you think you’re a god. Up until the Sorcerer Supreme gave him the “This isn’t about you” speech on her death bed he was as conceited and egotistical as this literal god. So he knows the way to beat Dormamu is the exact same way he was broken: take control away from them. The simple act of telling Dormamu he’s holding them prisoner tells them they lack all control. Dormamu gives up after this because they can’t accept not having control
This is why I love Dr.Strange cause when it comes down to it he’s a hero that saved the day by annoying an otherworldly entity into submission and that gains my respect
Damn straight 😂😂
Yeah he annoyed Kaecillius, Ebony Maw, Mordo, The Illuminati, and Thanos in infinity war.
Why was he sure Dormamu will keep hist world? what if as soon as Dr Strange breaks the loop Dormamu kills him and attacks the universe? Is there something in Dormamu's universe that prevents him from lying?
@@jaimeduncan6167 It's a deal with the devil type situation, a breach in contract would have very negative consequences for the one who breaks the deal. dormamu could kill strange after the deal was struck, but he can't just invade anyway.
Nobody ever cared about your respect though. why do you say it in such a weird way?
Bro made the villain rage quit
Haha you stole my line! 😁
😂😂
yess
@@HamnimationStudioshaha you stole my line
@@Shivam04krure not funny
I like to believe that dying billions of times over thousands of years while using magic to try and defend himself gave him more time to practice and refine his magic powers than any other sorcerer could dream of.
MCU said “lol no”
I mean the director said that he actually was able to refine his powers doing so. But like the other guy said they just decided "nah"
Wow, missed opportunity there. Literally all they had to do is say yes.
@@jackpraefortis5293 Bold of you to think MCU has Common Sense with the new directors
@@DelRae You vastly overestimate my faith in MCU's directors. To paraphrase the great words of Gordan, I wouldn't trust them to run my bath.
This scene was way more colorful than anything past 2017 in the MCU
and the cgi was wayyyyyyyyyy better... now its hot garbage LOL i dont blame cgi developers. i blame marvel and disney so yeah
@@GowSpeedrunsAndMemes ye
Doctor Strange comics are known for how colorful and wacky the art can be, so it's fitting
@@GowSpeedrunsAndMemes That's what happens when you keep making too many movies in a short period of time and pressuring your CGI team do finish all the CGI work in an even shorter period of time, at the same time.
Well, the second Dr Strange had a really damn good visual palette at times.
Steve: I could do this all day.
Strange: I have come to bargain.
An unstoppable object vs an immovable object. I dig it
Steve:oh shit
@@thedev.student1424 unstopable force but yes good point
"Our battle will be legendary!"
@@thedev.student1424 coupled that with bubble universe of melody sheep, and Einstein anywhere on the universe qunatum entanglement of a coin side flipped
No one could've portrayed the role of Doctor Strange any better than Benedict Cumberbatch.
And Dormammu.
And it is still a lump of marvel dog shlop
I don't read comics, so I wasn't expecting the Dark Dimension to be so....beautiful
In the comics it technically looks like hell. Flaming pits and all.
@@shashwatmahapatra9504 Maybe, but remember that there's more that you can get away with in comics than you can on screen.
right!! Should be, I dunno, maybe actually darker, maybe?
@@schumannresonanceswithverte no, i think its just fine. Its “Dark Dimension” and it IS dark. Its also chaotic, its distorted and it is also beautiful. After all it has a unique appeal, which is good.
@@MrVlad12340 agree with this 100% the dark dimension is meant to be bizarre, chaotic, and if viewed as strangely beautiful, perhaps it is only by insidious design, like the drops of fake nectar inside a carnivorous plant that is meant to trap insects looking for a meal. Beguiling, but deadly.
Wait, if Dormammu remembers killing Strange, then clearly Strange remembers dying everytime as well.
He literally remembers being killed hundreds of time by Dormammu - stabbed, hacked, crushed, burned, atomized.
And yet he goes around without being crazy from PTSD?
Damn, bro, this guy's got a stronger mind than even Wolverine.
"Pain's an old friend."
"Pain's an old friend."
"Pain's an old friend."
"Pain's an old friend."
“Pain’s an old friend.”
I love that Stephen Strange’s stubbornness was ultimately an asset when channeled in the right direction.
Go Astros!!!!!!!!!🚀⚾️
My theory on why this works on Dormammu and wouldn't work on later villains is that because he's on a higher dimension of consciousness he is aware of the time loop, notice how strange never references any previous loop, he is the same every time until Dormammu interrupts him, for strange each loop feels like the first time and he's simply responding to how Dormammu interacts with him.
He wins by being a lesser and more limited being than Dormammu, turning his weakness (or lack of higher consciousness) into a strength.
(also strange only does the time loop because this realm is timeless to begin with, so he's less likely to break reality)
They’re both outside time
Wow! It's amazing how you misunderstood this scene so thoroughly. @JulzGein_
@@Adaephonable
Strange says “beyond time” before flying into his realm, this is why dormammu could perceive the loop while many other lower dimensional villains wouldn’t.
Also why would strange say “pain is an old friend” in reply to dormammu if he couldn’t perceive the loop like dormammu?
@@JulzGein_ I think thats just him pointing out that no matter how much he is tortured in any loop it won't be enough to get him to stop the loop to escape it, like he doesn't fear anything dormammu can do because "pains an old friend", just my read on it tbh.
If you think about it Dr.Strange was the first MCU character to actually defeat his villain without killing him or making him vanish in some kind of way. This "fight" or ending was trully original and it showed us the power of the time stone.
Bcoz he can't even hurt dormammu in first place 😂
Loki was a villian in avengers, wouldn't that count?
I guess the other movies less so though since he'd keep having fake deaths
It’s unfortunate they haven’t followed up on Dormammu, now that the Time Stone is gone what’s keeping him out?
@@jamesxiaolong2199 How you seen the second movie? I think the credit scene answers you
It feels like Greek mythology. Where it’s silly but also rlly kinda cool
i find this scene amazing for Strange's character development in this movie. he went from selfish and not wanting to risk anything for reputation, to being narcasistic and self loathing, spending everything he has, just to fix his hands, to selfless and powerful. literally putting his life on the line, for the survival of others.
I’ve always known him as being humble until I seen this movie showing his back story
The writing of his character arc was extremely powerful. Sure, Rachel McAdams was underused, but her character served as the NON-narcissistic counterpoint.
It's a bummer how everything turned into a digital circus of childish stupidity after "Endgame". 🙄
I dont think you know what narcissism is. Narcissists dont do anything for other people, always themselves.
I wish this scene illustrated exactly how much time had passed in the time loop, in my mind I see it this way.
He really did use the time loop to train and fight but ultimately knew he would lose head to head. So he likely spent eons in Dormamu's realm to the point the dark god was legit starting to go insane hence why he begged to be let free from the loop.
Pretty much agree. He was in the loop so long a god with no concept of time got BORED of killing him. Dr strange died millions of times. Maybe billions.
I think this was left open to interpretation, and doing so improved the storytelling. Underwrites the degree of sacrifice that Strange was willing to go through to defeat Dormammu. Once you start piecing it together, you're like Ohhhh wait.. Strange made a being that was omnipotent in his own realm to admit defeat and ask for terms? It couldn't have been just the few times that we observed.. the filmmakers have implied that Strange suffered death and reset countless times in interviews. This training allowed him to explore and endure the countless future scenarios where he was eventually able to forsee the unique outcome that allowed Thanos to be defeated.
Yeah it would of been interesting if an overlay said death no 1,589,253,525,3452 and then he says make this stop!
well I mean I don't know about reading to much into it. I think it was just the simple noble act of being in that loop, with it on the table that he'd be there for eternity if he didn't break through to him, was what was really needed to be conveyed here. I think that guy caught on real quick a few times after dr strange told him "ur my prisoner lol" so I mean how futile would that be if he just kept killing him over and over and over again. couldn't have taken long to drive the guy insane
@@jpal0227 And he didn't go insane?
This is pure classic Dr. Strange. Straight out of the comics. Stephen can't overpower Dormammu, but with a little prep time, and some cleverness, he can outwit him. Steve Ditko would be proud of this ending. It's even trippy and psychadelic, just how he liked it.
2:57. This is such a chilling statement. Not because it is threatening, or anything. Just the lack of anger or passion in his voice. He just sounds resigned, like he is expecting to do this forever, and is willing to accept it.
Forget Thanos, Dr. Strange was the truly "Inevitable" person.
I like to imagine Dormamu would come back the minute after Dr. Strange released him, but I think it's good to know that Dormamu is a man of his words.
I prefer to think that dormmamu was like "go back? After he just let me out of there?"
Well hed just get stuck in a loop again
That's not quite true - Dormammu is essentially bound by a magical contract with Strange, that's why he is constantly seeking loopholes around it 🤣
Dormammu: hehe Im gonna secretly come back
Strange: *ILL FUCKEN DO IT AGAIN*
Interesting profile picture
several years later: "Dorrmammu, i've come to marry your niece"
🤣
Yeah lmao, but Dr Strange doesn't have the Time Stone in the Eye of Agamotto, and Dormammu probably has PTSD about it, so Dormammu would probably kill him the first view of a pixel of him
Dormammu : Nooooo
Strange: Doramammu, I’m banging your daughter
D: what is this!!
Strange: Clapping those cheeks in a infinite time loop!
MAKE THIS STOP
This scene teaches us why we should save before a boss fight
Imagine dying in agonizing ways over and over again. That’s the hero part imo
Two years later in another timeline, Strange tries the same method in order to save Christine, but winds up driving himself insane and kickstarting the destruction of his own universe.
Except Christine’s death was an absolute point
He couldn't save Christine without causing a time paradox, her death is what led Strange onto the path of becoming the eventual Sorcerer Supreme. That's why no matter how many times Strange altered the circumstances surrounding her death the universe would find a way to make certain that her death was unavoidable in order to avoid causing a paradox, of course we all know what happens after Strange saves her.
@@Tim7318-3 tbh honest it’s kinda sad that the watcher never really restored his universe even at the end of the show after he practically saved the entire multiverse
@@zantaazapre2659 I don't believe that the watcher has the ability to "restore" a universe, he's mainly there to watch over the multiverse hence the name/title. It's pretty much the main reason why he sends Black Widow to a different universe where her friends are still alive albeit as different universe counterparts since nothing was waiting for her back in her own universe; if it truly was within his power to restore a universe then why would he have sent her to a different universe instead of restoring her own?
To quote:
Strange - "You're a god, you can undo this!"
Watcher - "I'm not a god, and neither are you."
@@zantaazapre2659 It's right there in his title, Watcher... His role is to record how all events play out in all universes. The only reason he intervened in the 'what if' series is because all of existence across all the universes was at risk of being lost forever, along with his life and purpose.
"Pains an old friend"
The way Strange said that line hit me harder then it should have
Painis the old friend 💀
"I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!" - Rorschach
This is genuinely one of the most genius ways an mcu hero has ever won
Harnessing a female tactic: the power to nag.
Bloody brilliant.
@@guyver441 🤡🤡
@@guyver441lmao bruh 😂
@@Marvelfanatic3658 Call me a liar if you can!
You can really feel how each time he comes again he's finding it funnier and funnier
And his learning more about dormamu, if strange came out of that finally understanding all of dormamu's weaknesses, he would be insanely god like powerful
Yes bro
It is amazing that in this universe Strange is willing to put himself through so much for others and he still catches hate for it from them
Dr. Strange and Loki are the goats at infinitely time looping for centuries until they win. Loki even dedicated eternity to save the multiverse.
Players in games did this first though
@@attackontitanfollower Strange and Loki literally pulling gamer moves and quick saving before the boss 😂
Legend has it that he is still trying to negotiate
I always wondered how on earth the western educational institutions accepted CRT so easily.
Now, I get it....
He has come to bargain
I mean technically, since this movie came out quite a few years ago. He still would be
God that is easily one of my favorite Marvel moments ever. It's so cold blooded "You bargain or you remain trapped forever." Or the more famous quote "I'm not stuck in here with you, you're stick in here with me!"
Or - "I could do this all day..." (surprised this one hasn't been mentioned yet in the comments).
"I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!" - Rorschach
Dormammu was literally like *"Yo what is happening?"* 1:43
Also just before Dormammu says that the way Dr Strange says I've come to bargain it's like he's already starting to find it funny with and Dormammu being fully aware that this scene is looping.
Fun fact: Benedict Cumberbatch also provided the motion capture and voice for Dormammu (electronically altered, obviously) So in a weird way Dormammu and Doctor Strange are mirror images of each other.
So this scene is just Benedict arguing with himself in a way?
@@shaggy4real97 spot on
02:27, when he said that pain is an old friend, it hit hard 😢
I think he realized no matter what strange would never break the loop, he tried to get him to go insane but that didn’t work either. Strange is arguably the most powerful MCU character for not defeating dormamu but simply bargaining with such a god like creature.
He arguably has the best mental fortitude out of any MCU here. You must have an unbreakable mind to be willing to die countless times for who knows how long.
or maybe he just erase his memory once in a while
I loved this scene. Dr. Strange made Dormammu look like a chump
lookat abonimation hulk now...XDDDD so shitty and kid friendly lol
And dormammu is super strong like god level
@@oliver-pk3xj i know. He’s insanely powerful
Lol coming from a dude that has profile pic of Goku the dude that got clapped by Broly In base form 😱😂😭
When you realize that behind all of the millions of dollars' worth of CGI, this is really just Benedict Cumberbatch fighting himself.
Finally, someone had noticed. Thank you so much.
This video clip teach you to don't forget to always save game before boss fight.
Mom: "Being annoying isn't a superpower"
Me:
Honestly this was one of the best scenes in the entire MCU. The main character was faced with a foe who they could literally never win against. He didn't even have a chance. Dormammu was just too powerful, very much a common human versus a literal God. No hope of success through victory because victory was literally impossible. So he had to be clever and use the only thing at his disposal that could achieve success and even then he could only ensure success by letting go of his pride and being willing to lose forever just so the Earth would stay safe...and so he succeeded by failing. All the more powerful when it's shown that be KNOWS going in that he can never be victorious. He was fully prepared to sacrifice himself to an eternity of torture. Which given his completely egocentrentic existence beforehand, is quite a journey. I do kinda wish it went on for another few minutes though and had short clips of him wavering under torture just wanting the pain to end but summoning up his reserves of willpower to force himself to keep going...that way we could have SEEN that he wasn't as fearless as he seemed and he did CARE whether he suffered, but simply cared about the Earth itself more.
His cloak was the coolest thing ever.!
2:03 He almost dropped the F bomb
I kinda wish he did.
If Dormammu had just listen the first 3 times Strange said, “I’ve come to bargain,” this scene would have been so much shorter and less fun
Yeah i'm glad it was longer
Well…duh
This was not the best MCU film, but this is one of my top 10 MCU scenes. It has a "Dr Who" vibe to it. No big smashing battle, but a clever twist of wits.
"How many seconds....in eternity?"
0:08 “Siri set a reminder to revive me in 5 minutes when I die”
The tone of “No.. I’ve come to *bargain”* always gets me lmao
Like scolding a naughty child
It's the way it so perfectly drives home the point that Dormammu is stuck against this immovable WALL of a situation. Like no, we are going to BARGAIN muddafucka
I like to imagine another ending where they do it so many times that Dormmamu just starts to open up and in one scene just somehow sits down and talks about his childhood and how his parents didn't give him much attention
If they had done that, I would have either laughed myself to death or just quit.
If this movie were made after 2018 that is legit what they would do, some goo goo ga ga level writing
In the multiverse, there is a guaranteed reality where this happens.
I believe this was taken from the comics, but in the comics this is how Strange became so gifted in the Mystic Arts so quickly in earth time. because in the loop he spent like a thousand years, or a long time in the loop fighting the Dark Lord. So like you see Strange die in all those ways. its because he learn to adapt, and Dormamu has to keep changing it up, but in the end just making Strange strong and smarter.
@@D1ssrupt
Dormammu, I’ve come to chat.
The best ending to an MCU movie since Iron Man. The hero doesn't beat the bad guy through brute force, he beats them by outsmarting them. He knows he can't win physically, but he doesn't have to: he just has to be willing to lose for infinity.
How did Iron Man have a good ending? I don't remember it being bad, but it felt fairly standard Marvel stuff
@@judeh8160 You thought the first Marvel movie, the movie where there was no definition of 'fairly standard Marvel stuff', was 'fairly standard Marvel stuff'? Compared with what, the ungestated Marvel movies from your mind's womb?
@@chemistrykit920 Regardless of whether or not it stood out at the time, by comparison to the rest of the MCU now, it was generic. Nothing about it is unique or creative like Doctor Strange vs Dormammu is.
@@judeh8160 Back then it was hella great. This was before all the marvel stuff after all. So while it might seem generic now, it was groundbreaking at the time
@@judeh8160 the ending of Iron Man wasn't all that crazy, but I think Tony Stark's character arc was one of if not the best in the MCU. it felt more genuine, realistic, and complex. now we're used to a bunch of crazy whacky superhero stuff, but Iron Man was just a rich jackass that got a harsh reality check and a second chance.
This scene is like a dark souls boss encounter. Once you start every defeat sets you back to the nearest "checkpoint" strange made his own "save file" and reloads. But the boss has enough awareness to realize!
I wonder how many people know that this entire design - set, colors, depiction of both - is STRAIGHT out of the original comic book this scene came from. I remember the actual issue, reading it, as a kid in the late 70s/early 80s. They did an amazing job. Still my favorite Marvel movie.
This scene alone is better than the full length of multiverse of madness
Boooo
For the most part multiverse of madness wasn't bad I just didn't like how they handled Wanda
@@kaykay8855 it was realistic and it made her seem like a human you could understand why she chose to do this why she was acting the way she did
@@jenniferdunstan5065 Wanda enslaved a town so that she can live a fantasy with her dead husband and her imaginary kids.
@@jenniferdunstan5065 no u couldn't 😭. She was literally killing people over kids who weren't real. 💀
can't believe he just do that with a simple loop
No bargain with dark lord or ideology. By Giorgio's Ghost
It's a simple loop but quite unbreakable
@@giorgioarmati4766he is just fiction
@@giorgioarmati4766 he is not lord
Lol with the time stone
1:13 people underestimate exactly how important this moment is as we don’t know exactly how long this goes on (I’ve guessed months maybe years but we have never got a 100% answer) and with each loop Strange gets stronger and learns a little more this is basically that moment in anime where the hero goes off training (in dragonball z inside of a time chamber very much like this loop).
It's like saving your game before you fight the boss level
This scene is literally what a Dark Souls boss must experience from their perspective
And the boss is actually is aware of the loop
When the visual effects artists weren't overworked and the effects were actually quite good
Dr strange be like
99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer
Take one down, pass it around
99 bottles of beer on the wall
GOATed reference
98 bottles of beer on the wall, 98 bottles of beer on the wall. Take one down, pass it around. 98 bottles of beer on the wall
Making scum-saving a crucial plot-point in a live-action movie is just brilliant. More of this
Amazing how he found out on the first reset. Each time was more and more realization.
1:10 when you double check your save file before the final boss
Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu: *_You've come to DIE... Your world is now my world, like ALL worlds!_*
Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu: *_You've come to DIE... Your world is now my- what is this… illusion?_*
Doctor Strange: No, this is real.
Dormammu: *_GOOD..._*
Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu: *_What is happening?!_*
Doctor Strange: Just as you gave Kaecillius powers from your dimension, I brought a little power from mine. This is time. Endless, looped, time.
Dormammu: *_YOU… DARE?!_*
Doctor Strange: Oh f- Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu: *_You cannot do this forever!_*
Doctor Strange: Actually, I can. This is how things are now, you and me, trapped in this moment endlessly.
Dormammu: *_Then you will spend eternity DYING!_*
Doctor Strange: Yes, but everyone on Earth will live.
Dormammu: *_But you will SUFFER!_*
Doctor Strange: Pain's an old friend... Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu: *_End this!_*
Doctor Strange: Dormammu- Dormammu- Dormammu!
Dormammu: *_You will never win!_*
Doctor Strange: No, but I can lose again, and again, and again, and again, forever, and that makes you my prisoner.
Dormammu: *_NO. STOP!!! MAKE THIS STOP! SET ME FREE!!!_*
Doctor Strange: No, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu: *_WHAT DO YOU WANT?!_*
Doctor Strange: Take your zealots from the Earth, end your assault on my world and NEVER come back. Do it, and I'll break the loop.
Wooo respect 👍👍
Same here
Thanks for that. For some reason the video only plays in Simplified Australian on my browser.
Good comment’
You all realize this is just an advanced version of, "Are we there yet?"
I loved this movie so much because Dr. Strange isn't a hero who solves every problem with raw firepower. He THINKS. When he faced a foe that was unbeatable in combat he didn't try to beat him in combat.
He beat him in patience. In tolerance. In self sacrifice. He knew Dormmamu would NEVER tolerate being caged, especially by a Mortal.
As always, Benedict Cumberbatch shows how versatile his voice is. (I also believe he did all the motion capture for him too.)
Voice almost as versalite as his aliases
Bravo Beethoven Cucumbersnatch
@@Baddabywtf 😂
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He did Dormamu as well as Strange?!
Keep in mind he’s been doing this for a very long time during which he spent mastering his sorcery which explains on how well he was when he fought Thanos
Different universe
speaking of which this wouldn’t have worked against Thanos because Thanos would’ve never given up
for those who can’t put two and two together at least lol
@@hawksgoated3613 it would've never given up because he will dont know he is on a time loop, for thanos will be the first time every try
"Pain is an old friend." One of the best lines I have ever heard❤
This movie was visually amazing. It’s so underrated
Imagine in the first time doctor strange said I’ve come to bargain and Dormamu was like “ok what you want?” and then doctor strange is like “you were supposed to kill me bro.”
That would be funnier XD
2:39 😂😂 endless looped time dormamu
What I love is that Dormammu never asked what Strange wants for who knows how long. He probably killed him millions, maybe even billions of times but never bothered to ask what he wants until the very end
"Knock Knock"
"Who's there?"
"Door Mom"
"Door Mom who?"
"0:30"
A truly terrifying villain who needs to come back. These god like beings coming into MCU are gonna be crazy. The size of them are insane
Bro if he comes back make it by sheer accident and ‘oh… oh, I was tricked’ and he just zooms out of there before he’s caught in a loop.
Or have him appear on another world where he finds strange and just have someone send a message to him and only talk by that just to avoid a time loop, and help strange get the hell out of there.
this is just gonna lead to more power scaling, since these days the only way to beat someone is by killing them. dormammu was allowed to be a huge threat without there needing to be the brute force to kill him
@@Totally_Bonkersyeah
I mean Clea in his daughter (however that works) and is basically Dr. Strange's "true love interest" and had a cameo after the awful third eye in the second one. So I imagine they are at least going to have a brief encounter. If they'd actually work on that and making a good movie instead of more iron-spider and endless other crap that is 1/2 finished or nobody cares about.
I love how Dormamu starts off thinking that Strange was making a meaningless sacrifice, only to find out that Dormamu was screwed himself. Sure, he could kill Strange forever, but that means he'll never leave the timeloop that he couldn't escape from.(or he would've already, instead of meeting Strange's demands at the end)
"Pain is an old friend" WHY AM I CRYING RN SADGKHSLGH 😭😭😭
Best “I’m not trapped here with you, you’re trapped here with me”
Dr. Strange took "I can do this all day" to "I can do this for eternity".
Lol!
I like that Dormamu immediately screamed YOU DARE and crushed him after Dr.Strange explained what he had done.
Dormamu knew from that point he was beaten.
If The Dark Lord himself has to utter those words you´ve been evil.
ultimate checkmate by Dr.Strange.
I remember thinking they'd written themselves into a corner because obviously there had to be a confrontation with Dormamu but they'd pushed so hard the idea that there was no way to actually defeat Dormamu that there was no way for Strange to prevail without a complete ass-pull.
And then as i realized what Strange was up to I quickly went from exasperation to 'holy shit they found a way this is excellent'.
Stuff like this shows you why the MCU was so beloved in its golden age.
Well, this sure gives a whole new meaning to the concept of being defeated by victory.
Alternative title: Dr. Strange saved the game before he shows us every ending
Holy shit your right
@@UltraMenace good profile picture btw
Thanks
Yee
Doctor Strange really did have the advantage here. Because he kept dying, I don't think he actually remembered the previous loops, so he didn't suffer the infinity that he imposed.
He actually did remember… each one… holy shit that’s impressive
@@breninpeterson856 Damn, then he's got a will of steel
@@574guy yeah
No he remember
He definitely remembers. If anybody would remember, it would be he who created the loop in the first place.
Dormamu: “Aw man, I’m trippin off acid.”
A much more interesting way to defeat a cosmic terror than just hitting it really hard.
1:34 is the best part imho. That tiny bit of harpsichord music as he appears for a third time; it almost feels like a playful taunt as it becomes clear to the audience what Strange is planning to do in this moment.
I wonder how long this went on for…an immortal being has nothing but time, so atleast hundreds of thousands of times before he ever really cared and that even seems low…and Doctor strange remembers each time as well but is unbothered. The mental training and fortitude alone shows how worthy he is of the title Sorcerer Supreme.
Such a brilliant concept for a final boss. When Doctor Strange movies are trippy, they're at their best
IDK why, but I love the "no, this is real" delivery.
He sounds like a mix of condescending, nervous, petulant, and smug.
This works with Dormammu because he's a being outside of time, his memories don't get wiped out after the resets, he lives through all of them.
Doing this against, say, Thanos, would be pointless as he wouldn't remember the loops.
I was blown with Dr strange. Masterpiece at that time. Till now.
1:22 What is this Illusion?
No, this is real.