This was THE saddest part of my life when i played this mission. I am a protoss player and my heart was wrenched from its hole in my chest when all of the heros died. :(
I agree. I loved this mission. This is what the Protoss are all about. Even in the face of certain death, they will fight until the very last Protoss is dead. Also, it gives you access to all of the protoss' best units lol.
For me it was the dialogue of how the Protoss were united at the end, all their combined firepower, as well as how even the best defenses one can build will inevitably fall once the minerals and gas run out. But the whole thing on how the Protoss fight to the last man without running away, surrendering, pleading for mercy...no matter how hopeless or futile. Some people talk of such things, but rarely their actions speak for them as in this mission.
Jack Ritschel (who also voiced Zeratul, Edmund Duke and DuGalle) is credited as the voice actor for Overmind in SC1, but people since have pointed out this is wrong and in reality Paul Eiding did it. In any case, here he sounds just like Overmind did in SC1.
"My zerg shall be slaves to the hybrid." That hit it at the core as a zerg player. "You cannot have my children! I will make Kerrigan so that my children in my absence shall live."
There's just... too many of them... I had goosebumps after thinking that there's just no way to win no matter what the Protoss did. Amon just wants to extinguish the Protoss and assimilate them.
If I am not wrong this is the Kobayashi Maru mission in the Starcraft II. In words of civilians: You are expected to lose and feel being defeated, even when you try every strategy you can came up with. Your only chance to win this is 1 apple, 3 photon torpedoes and one little gap in the program secury;-)
Then, the main SC2 plot shows just HOW she can save the galaxy. Firstly, she is reverted to her human form (except abnormal hair), then she becomes the Primal Queen of Blades, forever free of any dark influence and almost equal to Narud (Xel'Naga, though weaker than his damned boss). Finally, she ascends as Xel'Naga and literally disintegrates Amon.
Indeed! It's all part of the "unknown enemy" (the voice in the darkness) & connected to the Samir Duran mystery. Everyone seems to forget the StarCraft 1 Manual Xel'Naga story. The Protoss were considered a failed creation & abandoned by the Xel'Naga who tried again with the Zerg. They thought they succeeded but the young Overmind detected the Xel'Naga in orbit. The Manual says the Zerg wiped out the Xel'Naga. Duran could be a Xel'Naga exile or servant. Maybe he fled the Xel'Naga before ...
The Overmind was carrying out the will of Amon (the fallen Xel' Naga) because they were altered from their primal form into a weapon with the overmind as their leader. The overmind sought to incorporate the protoss into their fold which is what Narud or Duran did after the passing of the overmind.
I bought this game when it was new, I think I was 9 or 10 at the time. I play it even now. The pace of the game (fast), and the very diverse races make this game quite incredible.
+Karren Kuddlesberg He'd say "Ah hell, Jimmy. I don't care for no Protoss hocus pocus one bit. But damn ... those Hybrid whacha'mi' calli it remind me of winged Zerg. Still die after a couple bullets to the brain."
I see how Kerrigan is the key to the surivial of the Terran and Protoss. Shes been purified now, but she likley still maintains her psychic command over the Zerg. So now, when the Fallen One comes, we will have THREE armies at our back instead of 2! The Fallen One is gonna... fall!
Like someone else said I don't think this makes them good guys just because the Overmind wanted to protect his brood. It was in his best interest that they survive. If the swarm dies he has nothing to control. It's not like he had a change of heart all of a sudden. The swarm will do whatever they are commanded to. If the Overmind, Cerebrates, or Queen told them to not kill the Terrans they wouldn't, but that doesn't mean they are all of a sudden good.
Amon said "as i whas your beginig, so shal i be your end" refering to the zerg swarm being his weapon of mass destrucrion. and Zeratul said " the zerg swarm came as whas fortold,and the protoss first born of the gods wrose to fight them" and they died last (that is if you dont include the swarm,witch by the way are now brain dead-tools of death)
So this is pretty much prophecyception, the overmind foresaw the last stand of in utter darkness which Zeratul found, and he learned when and how Amon is going to manipulate the Protoss.
I must say, though I'm nostalgic for the old Artanis voice, I like the new one. He sounds....young, which he really is, compared to relics like Mohandar and Zeratul.
@SniperJanitor The prophecy goes like this: The hybrids created by Samir Duran, who serves the Dark Voice will bring the end to all three races, Zerg, Protoss, and Terran. The Terrans will be overrun by the Hybrids, the Protoss shall make their last stand here, and will all die to the Dark Voice, the Zerg enslaved and assimilated to the Hybrids. The only being that can stop this is Kerrigan. She can control the Zerg, and she's the last hope. Zeratul basically says "DON'T KILL KERRIGAN!"
But the First Overmind was under the influence of the Dark Voice. It was originally meant to be a good being, but the Dark Voice took control of the Overmind and caused it to turn evil. Notice that the Dark Voice's intention was to create a Protoss/Zerg hybrid, which it did (in the Armageddon/Possible Future timeline). The Overmind, in Starcraft 1, invaded Aiur to assimilate the Protoss and the Zerg, and create a perfect race it called the "Eternal Swarm". Dark Voice controlled the Overmind...
Oh Dune, I have some very sweet memories with that game. When I had my first computer an Intel 386, dune II was on it. It was the first RTS I ever played and frankly the first computer game i ever played. A year later I had a new computer and Tiberiun Sun on it, I just started liking RTS from than. Than I had a snes emulator with games on a CD from a shop and I noticed this list of ff1, ff2, ff3 ... I thought this must be good game having so many parts and yes it is! I also don't own consoles.
@Dsmbr03 That's what I did. The whole damn place was full of Photon Cannons. There wasn't any room to use land units, so I just built a crapload of Void Rays and Carriers. Lasted up to 2300, then I fell. Glorious...
Yep! You play Heart of the Swarm yet? Was up for 2 days straight! Played it all the way through to the end of the campaign. I'm a Zerg player at heart. Kerrigan is my all-time fave character. I love her statement at the end: how she has renounced everything, humanity, identity, the man she loves & now she goes to face her true enemy, Amon, but that she is not alone. "I AM THE SWARM!" Love the way Tricia Helfer says it (voice actress for Kerrigan, she played Caprica 6 in Battlestar Galactica).
@Riboshom Actually it's: On a distant shadowed world, the Protoss will make their final stand. Their heroes will gather. Their forces will be marshaled. And they will die. Bravely. But still... They will die.
I get it. Guys, you can easily see that this evil person is a protoss. And he has red eyes. It's obvious how it's Ulrezaj. In Brood War Enslavers, he was nowhere to be found after the war. And he looke exactly like that guy. It also said that his hatred was burning more than the starts. It's pretty obvious that he's that person.
The Fallen One (AKA The Dark Voice) is likely a Xel'Naga, an ancient being who has been manipulating events in the galaxy for thousands of years, since before the protoss or zerg existed. He/she/it interfered with the experiments that created the Zerg, and altered them so that they would obsess over destroying the protoss. The overmind knew that the death of the protoss would lead to their own downfall, so it created Kerrigan to rule the zerg instead, and lead the zerg on a new path.
From a storytelling point of view, this is a pretty big gamble - Zerg has been established as the primary villain and has worked out pretty well. Now suddenly we face the possibility that they could actually be good guys, too. I personally thought they could have written a great story without this change of mechanics.
On their place, I'd still get one mothership, few carriers, load them up with data about Protoss tech and all, and send them into deep space. There's no point in making last stand with everything you have.
@Hatchatfatbat yeah, but then the UED is spread throughout the galaxy, not contained in a single sector, so we can only assume which one's bigger. The swarm can reproduce fast maybe, but the UED may be bigger, and vice versa.
@1113stve ulrezaj also serves the dark voice and he was imprisoned in a khydarin crystal. the dark voice is still unrevealed cause the hybrid definitely serves them.
As a Protoss player, this breaks my heart every time. :'( I need to go to therapy because of this. Zeratul dies, Artanis dies, all Protoss... Dead. And i think the fallen one is one of the Xel'Naga.
@halorecon95 the name of that dark archon is Ulrezaj and your theory is quite plausible, because in the novels thay show that Ulrezaj is a secret leader of the Tal'darim
@DiscordChaos Possible, the problem is the capablities of the hybrids backed by the whole swarm. Plus the "dark one" ( or whatever the hell it was named) can turn off the stars. They don't even need to fight the UED, they just shut off sol and the humans are done for. My guess is the protoss would have some way of preventing that, and thats why they had to kill them first. Afterwards, stars out, end of life.
No. UED is all dead by the zerg. Alexei Stukov was murdered, the Overmind is slayed from the UED's control, and Gerard DuGalle killed himself as the Zerg finished the fleet off.
Apparently Stukov was resurrected by the Zerg, infested, and then cured by Raynor and a tag team of Protoss. Stukov is still out there. Some where. The last of the UED.
@obesepie - No, you can't stop the Hybrids. I even tried it with Cheat Codes & it's still an "un-winnable" scenario. This is deliberate & part of the storyline. It previews Heart of the Swarm: Kerrigan must survive to prevent the prophecy of Zeratul being fulfilled. Without her, the Hybrids will destroy all life in the galaxy.
@AnbusKi Its always been a part of starcraft. Probably before they even thought of the idea for WoW and/or Warcraft 3. The hybrid became part of the story at the end of SC: Brood War.
Ok cool, no probs - just finding that loads of people making comments, assumptions & posting queries/theories about StarCraft at the moment aren't familiar with the original 'old' version (StarCraft I, Stellar Forces & Brood War). Always good to chat with a fellow player/fan from the original game - waaaay back in '98!! :)
@Plzstandbuy Well, yes and i'm going to assume you played the secret mission in Brood War, well basically Duran(his body at any rate) mentions that Duran himself is merely an "outfit" and he has many, many, outfits over millenia.
@AnbusKi yeah but then at the end cinematic of wc3 it looked both very heroic and epic when the night elves, the horde, and humanity banded together, put their differences aside and celebrate their victory against the burning legion and the safety of azeroth
Starcraft 2 makes the Overmind out to be an unwilling servant to the Xel'Naga/Dark voice, but who secretly wants to try and save the universe instead, but simply can't because he cannot since he had no free will and couldn't overide his programming. Whereas in the Original Starcraft the Overmind was made out to be this evil al consuming entity that wanted to assimilate everything. He goes from being a seemingly evil overlord in the 1st SC to a reluctant pawn to the true evil being in SC2.
@Mageziya The Dark Voice is NOT Duran. The Hybrids are NOT what the Xel'Naga look like. The Dark Voice is a fallen Xel'Naga that simply did not agree with what his race was doing when they created the Zerg and Protoss. So it took over the Overminds thoughts and turned the Zerg on the Xel'Naga and slaughtered them all. He created the Hybrids in HIS image, not the Xel'Nagas (we don't even know what they WOULD'VE looked like because they never got that far before getting killed off).
Its just a vision of the Overmind of what could happened if Raynor killed Kerrigan on Char. So this is a possible future if Kerrigan was killed, that is why Zeratul warned Jim not to kill her. She didn't die so this may not happen anymore. But lets just wait and see. The future is always uncertain.
@RighteousRetribution You were claiming that adun was the dark voice. Also, about Duran in the secret mission of broodwar, Duran was found to be making hybrids. Since the merging of the Zerg and Protoss is supposed to recreate the Xel'naga, many are suspicious that Duran is a surviving Xel'naga. And on a side note, some are supicious that Narud is Duran; Since Narud is Duran backwards.
@CMZ007rules no i didnt mean the overmind, but i ment the dark archon from broodwars. i think the dark voice is the dark archon who wanted to kill all aiur protoss.
Goddamnit, Blizzard. You started the decay of the Zerg in Wings of Liberty and completed it in Heart of the Swarm. Overmind's no longer a cool megalomanical godly creature. He's just a pawn now - a hapless and almost antiheroic character. And the Zerg themselves have been turned from awesome, ravenous killing machines into antromorphic insectoid dinosaurs. There doesn't always have to be a bigger threat pulled from a top hat, you know.
I know they allied to kill the UED-controlled Overmind, but Kerrigan simply used them to achieve her own goals and betrayed them, too. Zerg never tried to "save" others except if those people might prove to be useful later on.
@skullzans - Thanks man!! I do appreciate it .. mostly my own theories about the StarCraft 'meta-plot' get shot down in flames by other folks! Probably 'cause I'm primarily a Zerg player & most of my mates are Protoss & Terran fans! :)
@SniperJanitor (Continued from last post) So this prophecy is what shall happen if Raynor found Kerrigan on Char and killed her. In this future, she's dead, killed by Raynor. No one was there to control the Zerg against the Hybrid. Apparently, she can stop Maar and the Dark Voice.
Well it makes sense they would be the first to fall. The Protoss were almost completely exterminated in the first Starcraft when the Zerg invaded Aiur.
On a distant shadowy world he Protoss will make their final stand. The humans will gather. Their forces will be marshaled. And they will die. Greatly But still... They will die. Am I the only one to understand the epicness of this quote?
@shepokril Funny, they were picked off and destroyed one by one by Kerrigan at the end of Brood Wars. They're still terrans, and the earth only remained untouched because Kerrigan didn't feel like it. The UED got stomped.
Am I the only one who found strange triggers in this map with the map editor? We can clearly see Kerrigan WILL be in this mission (probably in Legacy of the void) because she has debreifing zone on the right side of the map.
I once went into one of these war-hammer shops once. The guy explained to me that warhammer40k predates all modern computer-console based RPGs and all of the modern RPGs are in some way based on this warhammer. Maybe he was just using a stunt to make me buy the stuff in shop, or may be he was right.
The Overmind didn't say a word about being forced to destroy the protoss homeworld in the Zerg campaign in Starcraft 1. Actually it seemed that it enjoyed it. A lot. And if it's vengeance against the Protoss was caused from a overwhelmingly consuming directive why it had to steal the location of Aiur from Zeratul's thoughts? If the Fallen One is a former Xel'naga then he has to know pretty well where the protoss homewrold is. Remember his words: As I was your begining, so I shall be your end..
"Mission Objective: Witness the upcoming apocalypse."
I can do that.
This was THE saddest part of my life when i played this mission. I am a protoss player and my heart was wrenched from its hole in my chest when all of the heros died. :(
Ans thus it came to pass, that the last protoss to be slain was... PYLO THE PYLON
RIP Pylo... you shall be missed
He was protoss through and through..
I hope he gets a proper burial
My life...for...pylon!
Abrigar You must construct additional Pylons
Probe: WE ARE ALL THATS LEFT! CHARGE MY BROTHERS! TO VICTORY! *probes charge and die in seconds*
Amon wants to remake the universe cuz he's sick of seeing so many bronze league noobs trying to cheese their way up.
FeedMoreNoobs hhahahahhahahahhaha im not in a league you argument is invalid!
FeedMoreNoobs Worker rushing is really annoying. It's worse in 3v3 and 4v4 where your teammate does nothing to sabotage you.
Niru-Kun true true...but zerg rushes are wors..
Anes Mulahasanovic There are methods of repelling them.
Niru-Kun hellions or seage tank mabe some widow mines
I don't know why I enjoyed this mission so much, but for me it is best mission from SC2.
I agree. I loved this mission. This is what the Protoss are all about. Even in the face of certain death, they will fight until the very last Protoss is dead. Also, it gives you access to all of the protoss' best units lol.
For me it was the dialogue of how the Protoss were united at the end, all their combined firepower, as well as how even the best defenses one can build will inevitably fall once the minerals and gas run out. But the whole thing on how the Protoss fight to the last man without running away, surrendering, pleading for mercy...no matter how hopeless or futile. Some people talk of such things, but rarely their actions speak for them as in this mission.
Glad that Paul Eiding voiced the Overmind in StarCraft 2!
You were here!
Jack Ritschel (who also voiced Zeratul, Edmund Duke and DuGalle) is credited as the voice actor for Overmind in SC1, but people since have pointed out this is wrong and in reality Paul Eiding did it. In any case, here he sounds just like Overmind did in SC1.
I love you executor
i love this quote :
"Your light is expended, it is finished!"
They should have added insult to injury and had Amon say "LOL fucking Noob."
1:43 Zealots:
"My zerg shall be slaves to the hybrid." That hit it at the core as a zerg player. "You cannot have my children! I will make Kerrigan so that my children in my absence shall live."
7:48 OH MY GOD THAT LAST PROBE, REST IN PEACE! IT WAS PROBABLY PROBIUS
There's just... too many of them...
I had goosebumps after thinking that there's just no way to win no matter what the Protoss did. Amon just wants to extinguish the Protoss and assimilate them.
wow it's been years and I still watch SC2 campaigns
@@zeytitude same here mate
@@zeytitudeSame, SC2 is eternal
If I am not wrong this is the Kobayashi Maru mission in the Starcraft II. In words of civilians: You are expected to lose and feel being defeated, even when you try every strategy you can came up with. Your only chance to win this is 1 apple, 3 photon torpedoes and one little gap in the program secury;-)
"...and they will die, bravely. But still, they will die."
best quote in the game
It was at this moment that this became my favorite mission type
@@Comegalletas137 lol you replied to my 11 year old comment. Also, most other missions of this type are boring but this was a good one.
@@trogdorburninating Someone had to do it
Zerg, Protoss and Terran will unite to defeat the hybrids.
ohshoothepredicteditperfectly
You just predict it lmao
Then, the main SC2 plot shows just HOW she can save the galaxy. Firstly, she is reverted to her human form (except abnormal hair), then she becomes the Primal Queen of Blades, forever free of any dark influence and almost equal to Narud (Xel'Naga, though weaker than his damned boss). Finally, she ascends as Xel'Naga and literally disintegrates Amon.
Indeed! It's all part of the "unknown enemy" (the voice in the darkness) & connected to the Samir Duran mystery. Everyone seems to forget the StarCraft 1 Manual Xel'Naga story. The Protoss were considered a failed creation & abandoned by the Xel'Naga who tried again with the Zerg. They thought they succeeded but the young Overmind detected the Xel'Naga in orbit. The Manual says the Zerg wiped out the Xel'Naga. Duran could be a Xel'Naga exile or servant. Maybe he fled the Xel'Naga before ...
The Overmind always had the best dialog with his crazy speeches.
The Overmind was carrying out the will of Amon (the fallen Xel' Naga) because they were altered from their primal form into a weapon with the overmind as their leader. The overmind sought to incorporate the protoss into their fold which is what Narud or Duran did after the passing of the overmind.
its so cool to see what the overmind sounds like with todays SFX softwares!
Am I the only one that's sad that the terran where consumed :(
I bought this game when it was new, I think I was 9 or 10 at the time. I play it even now. The pace of the game (fast), and the very diverse races make this game quite incredible.
Damn, there is just something so utterly spinechilling about this cutscene.
Of course!
Rick Wasserman did really well you know.
"I love it when a plan comes together"
Protoss: THIS IS WHERE WE FIGHT! THIS IS WHERE WE ALL DIE!
EN TARO TASSADAR!
this mission is so sad :'(
What if Tychus saw that vision as well?
+Karren Kuddlesberg He'd say "Ah hell, Jimmy. I don't care for no Protoss hocus pocus one bit. But damn ... those Hybrid whacha'mi' calli it remind me of winged Zerg. Still die after a couple bullets to the brain."
He would probably shout a "sweet mother of mercy... we are all screwed"
well for all we know he wouldnt shoot kerrigan if he wasnt held at gun point
It's sad how a character as cool as Amon was screwed up so badly, i now have fanfic ideas all about him though they are a bunch of cliches
"If only we had acted sooner..."
this was such a sad level when you had no buildings left, just hero units, and one by one they died, but before they died they had final quotes...
I see how Kerrigan is the key to the surivial of the Terran and Protoss. Shes been purified now, but she likley still maintains her psychic command over the Zerg. So now, when the Fallen One comes, we will have THREE armies at our back instead of 2! The Fallen One is gonna... fall!
One of the sickest missions ever in any RTS game
Like someone else said I don't think this makes them good guys just because the Overmind wanted to protect his brood. It was in his best interest that they survive. If the swarm dies he has nothing to control. It's not like he had a change of heart all of a sudden. The swarm will do whatever they are commanded to. If the Overmind, Cerebrates, or Queen told them to not kill the Terrans they wouldn't, but that doesn't mean they are all of a sudden good.
@TolangJenny Remember, as Tassadar said, the Overmind had thought and reason, but didn't have free will. It was forced to attack Aiur.
I personally found all the heroes death a bit sad but I love how you get the mission success sound after everyone dies
*Warps in decimating the Overmind and the Zerg and the Great Hungerer Amon with Turbolaser Fire*
Amon said "as i whas your beginig, so shal i be your end" refering to the zerg swarm being his weapon of mass destrucrion. and Zeratul said " the zerg swarm came as whas fortold,and the protoss first born of the gods wrose to fight them" and they died last (that is if you dont include the swarm,witch by the way are now brain dead-tools of death)
Anes Mulahasanovic nonono
its nice to hear the overmind's voice
So this is pretty much prophecyception, the overmind foresaw the last stand of in utter darkness which Zeratul found, and he learned when and how Amon is going to manipulate the Protoss.
Damn, that En Taro Tassadar scream is just epic, I love protoss.
old zeratul(rest in peace) > new zeratul
old overmind < new overmind(god bless you paul eiding)
I must say, though I'm nostalgic for the old Artanis voice, I like the new one. He sounds....young, which he really is, compared to relics like Mohandar and Zeratul.
@SniperJanitor The prophecy goes like this:
The hybrids created by Samir Duran, who serves the Dark Voice will bring the end to all three races, Zerg, Protoss, and Terran. The Terrans will be overrun by the Hybrids, the Protoss shall make their last stand here, and will all die to the Dark Voice, the Zerg enslaved and assimilated to the Hybrids. The only being that can stop this is Kerrigan. She can control the Zerg, and she's the last hope. Zeratul basically says "DON'T KILL KERRIGAN!"
But the First Overmind was under the influence of the Dark Voice. It was originally meant to be a good being, but the Dark Voice took control of the Overmind and caused it to turn evil.
Notice that the Dark Voice's intention was to create a Protoss/Zerg hybrid, which it did (in the Armageddon/Possible Future timeline).
The Overmind, in Starcraft 1, invaded Aiur to assimilate the Protoss and the Zerg, and create a perfect race it called the "Eternal Swarm". Dark Voice controlled the Overmind...
Oh Dune, I have some very sweet memories with that game. When I had my first computer an Intel 386, dune II was on it. It was the first RTS I ever played and frankly the first computer game i ever played. A year later I had a new computer and Tiberiun Sun on it, I just started liking RTS from than. Than I had a snes emulator with games on a CD from a shop and I noticed this list of ff1, ff2, ff3 ... I thought this must be good game having so many parts and yes it is! I also don't own consoles.
I love Zeratul's rallying speech
@Dsmbr03 That's what I did. The whole damn place was full of Photon Cannons. There wasn't any room to use land units, so I just built a crapload of Void Rays and Carriers. Lasted up to 2300, then I fell. Glorious...
The UeD will crush amon if they use the entire fleet...
Wrong
This scene is everything that describes life. We try so hard, bravely, and methodically but in the end. Everything will eventually fail =[
Yep! You play Heart of the Swarm yet? Was up for 2 days straight! Played it all the way through to the end of the campaign. I'm a Zerg player at heart. Kerrigan is my all-time fave character. I love her statement at the end: how she has renounced everything, humanity, identity, the man she loves & now she goes to face her true enemy, Amon, but that she is not alone. "I AM THE SWARM!" Love the way Tricia Helfer says it (voice actress for Kerrigan, she played Caprica 6 in Battlestar Galactica).
I love how the Overmind was secretly a good guy. #longlivetheovermind
I don't know about "good" but yeah he was an unwitting victim. His zergs only to be used as slaves and disgarded.
That moment when you realize that if you loose to zerg in protos campaign in SC1 you actually win!
@@gronndar Actually no. Amon's original plan was to use Overmind for his plans, but Overmind created Kerrigan to save the swarm from himself.
@Riboshom
Actually it's:
On a distant shadowed world, the Protoss will make their final stand.
Their heroes will gather.
Their forces will be marshaled.
And they will die.
Bravely.
But still...
They will die.
Colossi and Void Rays. This is how I got all my achievements for this mission.
I get it. Guys, you can easily see that this evil person is a protoss. And he has red eyes. It's obvious how it's Ulrezaj. In Brood War Enslavers, he was nowhere to be found after the war. And he looke exactly like that guy. It also said that his hatred was burning more than the starts. It's pretty obvious that he's that person.
The Fallen One (AKA The Dark Voice) is likely a Xel'Naga, an ancient being who has been manipulating events in the galaxy for thousands of years, since before the protoss or zerg existed.
He/she/it interfered with the experiments that created the Zerg, and altered them so that they would obsess over destroying the protoss.
The overmind knew that the death of the protoss would lead to their own downfall, so it created Kerrigan to rule the zerg instead, and lead the zerg on a new path.
From a storytelling point of view, this is a pretty big gamble - Zerg has been established as the primary villain and has worked out pretty well. Now suddenly we face the possibility that they could actually be good guys, too. I personally thought they could have written a great story without this change of mechanics.
1:02 Ok why does the Overmind's eye look like that now
On their place, I'd still get one mothership, few carriers, load them up with data about Protoss tech and all, and send them into deep space.
There's no point in making last stand with everything you have.
What's the music that plays during the battle?
@Hatchatfatbat yeah, but then the UED is spread throughout the galaxy, not contained in a single sector, so we can only assume which one's bigger. The swarm can reproduce fast maybe, but the UED may be bigger, and vice versa.
@1113stve ulrezaj also serves the dark voice and he was imprisoned in a khydarin crystal. the dark voice is still unrevealed cause the hybrid definitely serves them.
As soon as I picked up Duran on Braxis, I knew he was an acient combination of Protoss and Zerg
Hot damn Artanis looks funky in this mission
As a Protoss player, this breaks my heart every time. :'( I need to go to therapy because of this. Zeratul dies, Artanis dies, all Protoss... Dead. And i think the fallen one is one of the Xel'Naga.
@halorecon95 the name of that dark archon is Ulrezaj
and your theory is quite plausible, because in the novels thay show that Ulrezaj is a secret leader of the Tal'darim
@DiscordChaos Possible, the problem is the capablities of the hybrids backed by the whole swarm. Plus the "dark one" ( or whatever the hell it was named) can turn off the stars. They don't even need to fight the UED, they just shut off sol and the humans are done for.
My guess is the protoss would have some way of preventing that, and thats why they had to kill them first. Afterwards, stars out, end of life.
No. UED is all dead by the zerg. Alexei Stukov was murdered, the Overmind is slayed from the UED's control, and Gerard DuGalle killed himself as the Zerg finished the fleet off.
You can download SC1&SC2 Overmind hybrid voice, that replaces Queen
U can find it in google, wrote "Overmind's voice for SC2"
My last survivor was Zeratul, as in canon.
"If only... we had acted sooner..."
Apparently Stukov was resurrected by the Zerg, infested, and then cured by Raynor and a tag team of Protoss. Stukov is still out there. Some where. The last of the UED.
@obesepie - No, you can't stop the Hybrids. I even tried it with Cheat Codes & it's still an "un-winnable" scenario. This is deliberate & part of the storyline. It previews Heart of the Swarm: Kerrigan must survive to prevent the prophecy of Zeratul being fulfilled. Without her, the Hybrids will destroy all life in the galaxy.
@AnbusKi Its always been a part of starcraft. Probably before they even thought of the idea for WoW and/or Warcraft 3. The hybrid became part of the story at the end of SC: Brood War.
Ok cool, no probs - just finding that loads of people making comments, assumptions & posting queries/theories about StarCraft at the moment aren't familiar with the original 'old' version (StarCraft I, Stellar Forces & Brood War). Always good to chat with a fellow player/fan from the original game - waaaay back in '98!! :)
@Plzstandbuy Well, yes and i'm going to assume you played the secret mission in Brood War, well basically Duran(his body at any rate) mentions that Duran himself is merely an "outfit" and he has many, many, outfits over millenia.
@AnbusKi yeah but then at the end cinematic of wc3 it looked both very heroic and epic when the night elves, the horde, and humanity banded together, put their differences aside and celebrate their victory against the burning legion and the safety of azeroth
It's an unwinnable situation, which is the point of the whole vision. You "win" by killing a certain number of units.
Starcraft 2 makes the Overmind out to be an unwilling servant to the Xel'Naga/Dark voice, but who secretly wants to try and save the universe instead, but simply can't because he cannot since he had no free will and couldn't overide his programming. Whereas in the Original Starcraft the Overmind was made out to be this evil al consuming entity that wanted to assimilate everything.
He goes from being a seemingly evil overlord in the 1st SC to a reluctant pawn to the true evil being in SC2.
@Mageziya The Dark Voice is NOT Duran. The Hybrids are NOT what the Xel'Naga look like. The Dark Voice is a fallen Xel'Naga that simply did not agree with what his race was doing when they created the Zerg and Protoss. So it took over the Overminds thoughts and turned the Zerg on the Xel'Naga and slaughtered them all. He created the Hybrids in HIS image, not the Xel'Nagas (we don't even know what they WOULD'VE looked like because they never got that far before getting killed off).
This level was pretty epic. After doing all the objectives I just decided to fall back to the upper platform.
Its just a vision of the Overmind of what could happened if Raynor killed Kerrigan on Char. So this is a possible future if Kerrigan was killed, that is why Zeratul warned Jim not to kill her. She didn't die so this may not happen anymore. But lets just wait and see. The future is always uncertain.
Samir Duran turns up in the StarCraft 1 Expansion: Brood War.
@RighteousRetribution
You were claiming that adun was the dark voice. Also, about Duran in the secret mission of broodwar, Duran was found to be making hybrids. Since the merging of the Zerg and Protoss is supposed to recreate the Xel'naga, many are suspicious that Duran is a surviving Xel'naga.
And on a side note, some are supicious that Narud is Duran; Since Narud is Duran backwards.
@omgitzjun3 That is true but im talking about its over appearance, SC1's overmind was a brain not a giant eye.
@CMZ007rules no i didnt mean the overmind, but i ment the dark archon from broodwars.
i think the dark voice is the dark archon who wanted to kill all aiur protoss.
@Dupeo42 no, it was durran who made the hybrid and he was against mensk from the begining.
Goddamnit, Blizzard. You started the decay of the Zerg in Wings of Liberty and completed it in Heart of the Swarm. Overmind's no longer a cool megalomanical godly creature. He's just a pawn now - a hapless and almost antiheroic character. And the Zerg themselves have been turned from awesome, ravenous killing machines into antromorphic insectoid dinosaurs.
There doesn't always have to be a bigger threat pulled from a top hat, you know.
Oh my god so much feels when all the heroes appeared and died... EN TARO ARTANIS!
I know they allied to kill the UED-controlled Overmind, but Kerrigan simply used them to achieve her own goals and betrayed them, too. Zerg never tried to "save" others except if those people might prove to be useful later on.
@skullzans - Thanks man!! I do appreciate it .. mostly my own theories about the StarCraft 'meta-plot' get shot down in flames by other folks! Probably 'cause I'm primarily a Zerg player & most of my mates are Protoss & Terran fans! :)
@SniperJanitor (Continued from last post) So this prophecy is what shall happen if Raynor found Kerrigan on Char and killed her. In this future, she's dead, killed by Raynor. No one was there to control the Zerg against the Hybrid. Apparently, she can stop Maar and the Dark Voice.
Well it makes sense they would be the first to fall. The Protoss were almost completely exterminated in the first Starcraft when the Zerg invaded Aiur.
On a distant shadowy world he Protoss will make their final stand.
The humans will gather.
Their forces will be marshaled.
And they will die.
Greatly
But still...
They will die.
Am I the only one to understand the epicness of this quote?
@shepokril Funny, they were picked off and destroyed one by one by Kerrigan at the end of Brood Wars. They're still terrans, and the earth only remained untouched because Kerrigan didn't feel like it. The UED got stomped.
coolest missions, fucking ever, i was fucking high, i was enjoing every second of the mission.
@Draconum321 no, if you constantly clicked on artanis in SC Brood War, he would say "THIS IS NOT WARCRAFT IN SPACE!" literaly.
Am I the only one who found strange triggers in this map with the map editor? We can clearly see Kerrigan WILL be in this mission (probably in Legacy of the void) because she has debreifing zone on the right side of the map.
I once went into one of these war-hammer shops once.
The guy explained to me that warhammer40k predates all modern computer-console based RPGs and all of the modern RPGs are in some way based on this warhammer. Maybe he was just using a stunt to make me buy the stuff in shop, or may be he was right.
@TheDonagain I remember the SC1 portrait of the Overmind being 1 giant eyeball. It is still the same, 1 giant eyeball.
The Overmind didn't say a word about being forced to destroy the protoss homeworld in the Zerg campaign in Starcraft 1. Actually it seemed that it enjoyed it. A lot. And if it's vengeance against the Protoss was caused from a overwhelmingly consuming directive why it had to steal the location of Aiur from Zeratul's thoughts? If the Fallen One is a former Xel'naga then he has to know pretty well where the protoss homewrold is. Remember his words: As I was your begining, so I shall be your end..