It's extremely complicated but here you go: Salford has a second team but it's the rugby league team. The original Red Devils. Their crowds can be fairly low if United are on. Salford City were for your non league fans who are a different breed. The ground isn't in the middle of Salford, it's on the edge . Every town has a team in Greater Manchester. Fans of Bury just come from Bury, etc. Salford is a city in its own right and was before Manchester. You'll get growled at by the locals if you ever say they're in Manchester. However Salford doesn't have a city centre. Town is Manchester, the bus routes etc all go in that direction. The boundary of Salford changed in 1974, you have 'proper' Salford as it's referred to. Where Salford town hall is, isn't in proper Salford. They used to have an S instead of an M for the post code. You have lots of little towns that were deemed in Manchester, now in Salford. It's like in London you have Croydon, Wimbledon that have been swallowed up by London. Going back to the bus routes Salford is in like 4 areas and you can't get from one to the other. For me to get to Salford City's ground I'd need to go into Manchester, get a bus going towards Bury, get off in Prestwich (which is Bury council) and walk back into Salford. The part of Salford the ground is in is really isolated. So the catchment area for Salford City is extremely small. I don't buy into any of this TV Wrexham stuff. There's also no parking near the ground. Neville was looking at moving the club to where the rugby team play. The problem being that it could only have two tenants and Sale (who play the posh version of rugby - rugger buggers) are also there. Salford rugby who the ground was built for (but the council own it) are the poorest out of the 3. This was then looking like the rugby team was gonna swap grounds with the football team. As you can imagine this went down like a cup of cold sick. So there was perhaps a little less warmth towards the football team which probably impacted on crowds. The FC United argument is of course incredibly complex as well. The majority of United fans from Salford despise FC Utd. There was a lot of ill feeling when it was formed and was seen as disloyal. The second season for FC saw them play Salford City twice, once in the cup. As a United fan it was horrible to see reds pitted against each other. Glazer rent boys and Judas scum were sung. The game stopped at one point when some 'Salford" fans went on the pitch with a judas scum banner. The game was a played at the old rugby ground , the atmosphere was very tense and unsurprisingly resulted in violence. So bizarrely they may both be little Uniteds but you'd be one or the other if you had a second local team. However most don't. I don't see anything wrong with a second team if it's non league. Any other type like Celtic and Liverpool, United etc is just a massive no. So I suppose that's what Salford City are, peoples second non league team that aren't non league any more. As it happens I'm moving next month to Prestwich. I was a season ticket holder at United for nearly 30 years but can't manage it being disabled now. I watched a handful of Salford games years ago. I might go because I miss football, but I'll always be United, whose second team is Salford Rugby League. You've done American Football, you should do a Rugby League video. Leeds would be a good one to do.
It doesn't help that Salford is so close to the centre of Manchester, it's bascially absorbed into it, Old Trafford is 5 minute walk from the border of Salford in fact it's closer to more of Salfords population than Salfords stadium is
@@joegilbert3149 yeah and most of that population is closer to Old Trafford than to Salford's Stadium. They have more than a dozen football clubs in a 20 mile radius, 5 of which have been in the Premier League, and a lot of Rugby clubs as well. There is so much choice that you can have a population of 300,000 but divided by all of them you won't have that big a support.
@Alex-cw3rz if it wasn't for away fans Salford would get 1400 most weeks loads of fans can't go to Old Trafford because they are priced out, what's the issue not to go to a local game it's a massive massive place.
I go to Salford a few times a season, it’s super local to me. It’s a cheap ticket and they have live music at full time so a good day out. You can’t deny that the crowd is full of United fans though - you see more United shirts than Salford. Last time I went we made friends with about fifteen Japanese students and there were lots of Americans too. The location is a weird place because it’s in the middle of the Orthodox Jewish part of the city, so unique place for a stadium. Also Lupo’s is the absolute best! Glad you found it.
A mate of mine is a season ticket holder, he's a United fan who can't afford to go old Trafford and his season ticket is sub £200. Most of the drinking is done in nearby Prestwich bout a mile away.
Think it’s important to remember every fan cares and supports in their own way. John unfair to say “no one near me cares.” Just because they aren’t singing or shouting doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t care. You need a mix, you can’t have everyone screaming all game. Every fan will experience the game differently.
I've heard "if you don't go to the games you're not a real fan" several times in my life. It's such a weird opinion to have. I hate being around random people, especially when they are very close to me and i can barely move around. Just because i sit on my couch watching the game doesn't mean i don't care as much as you do.
They came to this game because algorithms tell them turning up to a unpopular team will get them more views, likes and subs. This isn't random, this isn't one guy turning up at a football game by chance. The days of throwing a dart and going to the game are gone, unless that will make them more money of course.
I think you sometimes underestimate how much fun this channel is for a lot of people here. I love Videos like this and honestly hope that you will do this for many years to come!
I’m a Salford season ticket holder on the west stand (Standing Section behind the goal). The west stand is good limbs and all of the seats are very quiet and just full of happy clappers. It’s definitely growing but it’s hard for people to care when most ‘fans’ support Man United and City. Although I will say our away support is good even though the numbers are low. This was a good video but I wish you would’ve sat closer to the west stand to see how it is with the louder fans.
I'm Salfordian and find most people support Man Utd, followed by Bolton and Man City. I don't think football fans around here considered supporting Salford as an option until recently so chose from the nearest ones. No doubt they'll get more fans as time goes on.
Had some good clashes with Salford glad to see them go through the leagues the way they have and still wish them all the best from a Farsley Celtic fan
@@JS-id7nd Not on about Plastic fans fella, Irish fans are far from that 🤣 No offence lad but if that’s your mentality of Irish football then you’re in for a big surprise👍
I've got to admit I thought it was just me that couldn't stand Salford. The Nevilles and their mates could have taken over someone like Bury and saved them, though Bury in Red shirts would have looked naff.
The Class of 92 had already owned Salford for 5 years when Bury went downhill. Would have cost them a lot more to buy as Bury were in League 1 in 2013.
love these lower league vids get to see proper fans enjoying proper grassroots football none of this VAR nonsense or Some clubs having ridiculous amounts of money(great to see John back on the channel)
@@scottm9158 I’m sure there is but they’ll never get the same atmosphere as you get down in the lower leagues. Proper community football where a club brings people together.
Regarding chants and other personal abuse, it's not something confined to just Salford City fans. I hear it from a lot of fans from multiple clubs that have come to play my team in League 1. We always talk about how football can bring the best out of people but it also brings out the worst. Honestly, I'd be heartbroken if I was subjected to some of those chants.
Completely agree with you. I've been to tons of games and you'll always get a portion of fans who sit the closest to the away fans just to hurl abuse. I don't understand it as you've paid a ticket to watch your team and half the time they aren't even looking at the pitch
Most goes over my head, but ‘ten German bombers’ makes me rage every time (Cov fan). Like the idiots joking about Leicester and helicopters, just please, get some brains. Digs about being fat or inbred or crap etc, dumb but whatever, but stuff that’s laughing at death is not on. Crowd behaviour is a beast of its own, I guess. Lowest common denominator.
@@helvete983 Oldham 1976 v MILLWALL with Man United thereafter their hiding at Millwall the previous week and they were out for revenge. I got caught up with The United mob in the ground and was singing,as a Millwall fan, United songs NOT realizing my Millwall scarf was showing. lol After the game I knew there would be 3-way trouble in the surrounding alleys so left my mates and went solo around the outskirts of Town and bumped into 15 Unnted who were walking towards me 100 yards away. Luckily,I saw a local Man on his front doorstep and walked up to him and asked him to shout "See you tonight,lad" and I smiled and waved and they assumed I was a local.Phew....lol
@@artful1967 new capitalist ideologies teaches us to be comfortable in our bodies right? So why feel uncomfortable? It’s the likes of KFC and McD behind these ‘feel good in your own body’ campaign so they don’t lose clients. So either ‘feel good’ or drop their crap from your diet, simple.
Dirty Old Town was written by Ewan McColl about Salford, and it's gone on to be recorded by some of the biggest folk groups like the Pogues and the Dubliners
I went 2023 and had a similar experience to you From the 2nd minute I was hearing score updates from the United game (and Arsenal weirdly). I didn’t see ‘bullying’ but there was a group having an open conversation that can best be described as ‘crass’ when they were in a family section and surrounded by kids- along with standard football abuse to refs (more acceptable but again - surrounded by kids), and to top it off absolute library. Accrington away fans put them to shame, only thing you could hear.
Ten years ago, Peter Lim bought Valencia CF in Spain. Back then, it used to be always in he Champions League. Now, it sits at the bottom of the standings, aiming to avoid relegation to the second division.
Difference with this and Wrexham is that those wrexham residents absolutely love and always have loved their club and showed up through hard years still
Uncultured American here, but the point you brought up a little past the 4 minute mark is really interesting to me, because here in the States and Canada, we also have a very grim outlook on sports ownership in what we call the "Big 4" leagues here, but it's so crazy to me that our sports leagues do not even have a fraction of the amount of turnover that something like Premiere soccer gets, almost solely because of how differently the league is structured. North American sports leagues don't do relegation and promotion (mostly for geographic reasons), as such, it's not really possible for some jagoff with too much money for his own good to just nonchalantly "buy" a team for PR and run it into the ground, because in the North American scope, you either have to buy a major league franchise, or buy a minor league franchise FROM a major league one- which in comparison to soccer's "minor leagues" (I'm not sure what they're called compared to the premiere leagues), are more expensive and a much bigger commitment. For instance, if you own an AHL club, and you put a moron in charge of player acquisition, and then a bigger moron in charge of coaching and development, that mismanagement is going to tank the NHL club because you're essentially "poisoning the farm". It's just interesting to me that, over there, it's an issue that happens routinely and continue to happen routinely to small clubs, where over here, minor league markets not only stand on their own in some cases, but have a solid degree of protection if they're affiliated to a straightedge organization. A place like Des Moines or Wilkes-Barre doesn't *necessarily* need to stand on its own as a market, because they have security in being linked to the Wild and Penguins. Where because they don't use an affiliate system, but instead, a relegation system out in the UK, smaller markets are much more autonomous, but at massive cost to their stability and long term security. It's strange to me that one side of the pond is experiencing that as a routine issue in their leagues, where in North America, when you have an owner like David Tepper, Bob Nutting, Jerry Reinsdorf or Alex Meruelo, it's a HUGE deal and other owners even actively work against them.
Skelmersdale United. We have a town of over 60,000 residents,we get about a hundred fans on average. Liverpool, Everton and United dominate here. It’s tragic.
Skelmersdale is a bit like Milton Keynes in that it's only really been developed in the last 50-60 years, a lot of families come from Liverpool originally and hand that down from generation to generation.
@@RW-nr6bh That can change though. Almere in The Netherlands (about the same size as Milton Keynes) used to be completely oriented at Ajax since most of their residents came from Amsterdam. They've had a football club for about 20 years that used to be the 'ugly duckling' for most of its existence. But since the football club started doing better a few years back, alongside there now being a solid generation of people with their roots only in Almere, you've seen a change. Their tiny stadium is always sold out since they were promoted to the Eredivisie, and they have a young and quite passionate fanbase. This has also come along with the whole city gradually developing its' own character, which it was always lamented for not having. Perhaps most telling: last year my local side (this is very, very local football) were playing a relegation match against a similarly minor side from Almere. There was a small group of young lads from Almere, and they were all singing Almere City songs throughout the game. That goes to show that for a lot of young kids, Almere City is now their first team, whereas it used to be a 'second team' to Ajax fans from Almere. Quite nice to see really.
Salford's problem is the fact that they are in a very crowded football market in Greater Manchester which has many bigger and better established teams as you pointed out in the video, the reason the Wrexham story is more compelling is because they have a glorious past (if you are a big fan of the welsh cup) and a large catchment being the only professional club in North Wales.
They're just unfortunate to be surrounded by so many other clubs, many high up in the pyramid. If you're a Man United fan you might go to one of their games but the hype would die down quick. I feel for their genuine fans
Realistically, they are a step 3/4 club who have ended up in league two. This is a similar atmosphere to non league games at step 3/4, its just a local day out, something to do
Not a snowflake at all you're 100% right...football fans can be right weirdos sometimes like banter is banter but to just randomly pick 1 kid out and proceed to slag them off all game instead of actually watching the game is pathetic
6:30 Wigan and Bolton are also technically in Greater Manchester and there are a few big rugby clubs locally (including Wigan) in the area. Also Liverpool is only 30 miles away as well
Salford Red Devils (the original Red Devils) rugby league club is nearer than Wigan. The residential area around the Peninsula Stadium has a large Jewish population. There obviously isn't much attraction for them in watching Salford City. Before Salford got bought by the seven ex-Utd players, Bury was the most popular club, just a 10-minute drive away.
@@HowardClare Referring to the 10,000 fans as awful is beyond stupid. They support their club - if other people don't, what are they supposed to do about it? Are the 21,000 Bolton fans awful because there are not 75,000 of them, like their big rivals Man Utd? Why do most people from Bolton not support their club? Also idiotic is that you are saying that 10,000 fans don't count, on a video about a club with 2700 supporters. All 2700 of them count, as do all the Wigan fans. Stop being daft.
still a league 2 team and playing in league for several years now, which is something of an accomplishment. Being in league 2 though in greater Manchester with the MU and MC in the area make it hard to build fanbase. It is not London, only so many people there and with 2 huge powers the fan need is not there. i am sure they will just do what they do. they are also a middling league 2 team who are either middle or just trying to hang in. if they get to a point they start pushing for promotion fan excitement may pick up in the area for them
Think it is a jealousy thing. I used to be a fan of Gretna FC in the Scottish division. Following promotion to the SPL the club chairman passed away. The club went into administration and are now a reformed club as Gretna 2008 and play in the lowland football league. As of late they have struggled to sign players due to work permits from England and due to Gretna being on the Scottish border there really isn’t a lot to do. So when you see a club like Salford you do get a hint of jealousy. Any lower league fan would maybe against a massive take over at 1st but would start to enjoy the benefits in the end
I went to Salford City on a bit of a whim when I couldn't get to my own team's away game. I didn't really expect to like it but i was pleasantly surprised. There was a reasonable crowd there and everyone was friendly enough. The atmosphere was pretty good too. Maybe Salford was a vanity project to start with, but it feels like now the owners are simply happy to have a football club for the fans that plays at a reasonable level but doesn't seek world domination.
One of the fans you interviewed commented that it was great when the fans turned up on a Saturday, but where were they on a cold wet Tuesday night? That was certainly the case when I made my only visit with my team Tranmere (although it wasn't raining that night). The game was originally scheduled for New Years Day 2022, but Salford's squad was riddled with Covid at the time so the game was called off. When rescheduled, the crowd totalled around 2100, of which 1200 was from Tranmere, meaning the home support was only around 900. The night I visited, I went to another pub called The Star, which is a community-run pub, about the same distance from the ground as the one you visited, but the other side of the ground. Both are about a mile away, but still the closest two to it.
Thats really wild because USL 2 don't even have like an actual TV deal. Kinda hard to watch USL in general. Least on the upside. Most USL clubs have a higher attendance than a every non-government owned Saudi Pro League team
From a Brentford fan, you can’t buy class. Suffered many many years of misery ( and probably more suffering to come) . But care deeply about my club…. 🐝💤
Travelled from Belgium with my son for ManU for Sunday, saw the game against Carlisle the day before. Was great "warm-up" for our main event on Sunday, also other weekend tourists from the mainland seemed to be around.. The atmosphere was quite loud when the whole away end was full of visiting supporters, (making the attendance to nearly 4000), all in all a pleasant experience with my 10yo son.
Can I suggest you go to a game at the Isles of Scilly? The Isles of Scilly are off the coast of Cornwall, and there is the Isles of Scilly Football League. Which has a grand total of 2 teams. Yes, just two. Woolpack Wanderers and the Garrison Gunners. They play each other about 20 times a year, and whoever wins the most games of those, is that year's league's champion. BTW, if you go and ask to play for one of the teams, they might actually let you.
Good to see them paying homage to Salford lads like John Cooper Clark (spoken word poem) and Ewan McColl who wrote Dirty Old Town about the place. You might be familiar with his daughter, Kirsty, a great singer and writer tragically taken too soon.
Salford is mostly known for the classic song 'Dirty Old Town': 'I met my love by the gas works wall Dreamed a dream by the old canal I kissed my girl by the factory wall Dirty old town…' Written by Ewan McCall (Kirsty's dad) and covered by The Pogues amongst others. Many a Sofodian died in the industrial revolution - so 'Away Days' can have nice things.
Ellis go to Corinthian Casuals in Tolworth, Surrey. Loads of history! Linked with Brazilian club Corinthians, Manchester United’s biggest ever defeat is to them it’s a great club I played for them back in the day
salford who used to be orange changed their colours, like crystal palace and luton, they changed their identity. luton had derby county colours and palace had claret and blue stripes with the blue being dominant
@@Boxag Oh god no you've given many a red years full of comedy. You might be mutton dressed as lamb and a crowd resembling Disneyland but blues are blues, they still give a giggle.
You lots were lucky to seat in that stadium right now. I used to go there before the takeover and it was a ground waiting for someone to demolish it. I still thank the Class of '92 for buying the club and never giving up in making it better.
Before the takeover they were on a level with Cheadle Town & Woodley Sports. Ninety per cent of their home crowd turned up post take over, which is pretty good finding 1000 people willing to pay to watch a club they'd ignored before. They'll survive because it's easy to recruit players around here.
I lived in Manchester for a few years, went to many teams in the surroundings areas (Wigan, Salford, Altrincham, Stockport), and none of them have any form of fan base, they all support teams from the city
Too much an uphill task. To compare to Stockport or Wrexham is silly they both had hardcore fanbases in their darkest days that are over and above Salfords highest attendance ever. You can't build a fanbase and fan culture out of thin air. Bad buy for the class of 92. They're 10x smaller than the aforementioned.
The Class of 92 bought Salford City by mistake. I had tweeted a few of them to ask them to buy Salford City Reds rugby league team, that had just gone into administration. A couple of months later it was announced they'd bought Salford City instead.
In all fairness, Salford were the sort of Man City of non league. They used to get like 50 to a game before they got taken over and now only 10 years later they get over 3k so most of them cant be life long die hard fans
I would love you to do a follow-up to this about my team, Harrogate Town, who might have an even smaller fan base than Salford. When we played Salford last season on the final day, many fans joked that it was the battle of who had fewer fans. Our ground is also in the middle of a suburban area, but it’s even worse because it’s on a main road, and there is no room to expand the ground. We do have two pubs reasonably close by, though. It’s miles away from Betty’s, yet when Footy Focus reported in 2019 about their 1st round FA Cup match, they did the interviews at Betty’s, which says a lot about the club's lack of identity. The unique thing about Harrogate is that the manager, Simon Weaver, is the owner of Irvin’s son, which makes for awkward discussions about whether the manager is still in this job because of his dad. The bit where people ask you about the Man U score is very relatable to me; people are always asking about the Leeds score at Harrogate. I remember one afternoon when Harrogate won, and as we were clapping the players off, a big cheer went up because Leeds scored a late winner. I have to think that many fans wouldn't bother coming to our games if Leeds were playing. Bradford City fans claim Leeds fans fill out our away section when we play at their place, which I don't think is true, but I think we do get more fans when we play Bradford because of the rivalry with Leeds. Other small clubs that have done well are Forrest Green Rovers (though they’ve fallen away recently), Crawley Town, Fleetwood Town and Burton Albion (who were in the Championship for two seasons). You could also do the reverse, a big club that's now in the lower leagues, Scunthorpe United (top of National North), Torquay United (in the middle of a second spell in the sixth level right now), Hartlepool United (who Rob and Ryan also considered buying) or York City (with their boring ass new ground miles out of the city).
As a Salfordian, been to Salford City FC a few times where its had a decent attendance, like you witnessed it's extremely hard to get to and nothing around the peninsula stadium and if United or City are on it can be dire, the only two real teams cared about in the City is Salford Red Devils (The Original Red Devils, Rugby League, one of the oldest sporting institutions in the city, top flight of Rugby League and came 4th this season) and Manchester United for football, I know more people starting to attend Salford City FC but its more if United, City or Salford Red Devils are not playing, they need to be more central for the club to grow (which is why they tried swapping to the Salford Community Stadium with the Salford Red Devils, which didnt go down well). The issue Salford FC face is that if the Class of 92 pull out and with the council now focusing on a Rugby strategy for the city (Since Rugby League is what the city is known for) I dont see FC growing.
Only been to Salford once, in the Away End with Orient first game of the 2021/2 season, therefore first League game with fans in the ground post Covid. Our end was sold out, Home sections not much more than half full after a year and a half without being able to go. To be fair to those who were there, they did support their team quite well. Being where they are, as you point out in the video, they'll always struggle to build a big fan base.
I used to sometimes go down pre takeover. Midweek games you'd have about 50 people there. They took over and changed the colour, badge, name of the ground etc and brought with them a load of United fans. As a blue it was an instant turn off. Most people are red or blue and it will take years of kids growing up with it to build proper support.
You always love your club unfortunately its an unbalanced relationship you love them, you pay and occasionally get something back . More misery than ecstasy but it calls you back for those europhic moments. Thats the hook .
"There's no one here, what's the point" is proabably what a lot thought about Exeter City in 2002. Pair of patronising tories. Thete are 1000 clubs up and down the country where hardly anyone watches them, and yet they still represrntvtheir community. If football was only about who was there to watch them, there would only be one league with 20 or so teams.
It seems as though Salford is the second team for the majority of their fans, kind of explains the apathy towards them. Doesn't help that their owners also care more about another club down the road. Do think the £20 a ticket maybe a bit steep too.
I went to Salford to watch Grimsby play them in December and the atmosphere from the home was absolutely dead. Considering the increased away attendance in the EFL, there home attendance has actually dropped since the National League. No way it can be sustainable
Not really sure why Salford are any less legitimate than any other club. It has history, followed by locals, owned primarily by locals. Usually like your subject matter but this feels a little bit bandwagon-ish and the tone of the video is patronising. Isn't this just how every team started out at one point or another?
@@macewol326 You don't need to have chants or get smashed before the game to enjoy it. You certainly don't need to be in a funk all weekend or week. This seems like a nice family-friendly outing (not including the losers hurling abuse at a child). It's not as intense but they're not hurting anyone; it's just different. Each to their own. That guy who goes with his son and that girl with a season ticket were enjoying themselves.
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It's extremely complicated but here you go:
Salford has a second team but it's the rugby league team. The original Red Devils. Their crowds can be fairly low if United are on. Salford City were for your non league fans who are a different breed.
The ground isn't in the middle of Salford, it's on the edge . Every town has a team in Greater Manchester. Fans of Bury just come from Bury, etc. Salford is a city in its own right and was before Manchester. You'll get growled at by the locals if you ever say they're in Manchester. However Salford doesn't have a city centre. Town is Manchester, the bus routes etc all go in that direction. The boundary of Salford changed in 1974, you have 'proper' Salford as it's referred to. Where Salford town hall is, isn't in proper Salford. They used to have an S instead of an M for the post code. You have lots of little towns that were deemed in Manchester, now in Salford. It's like in London you have Croydon, Wimbledon that have been swallowed up by London.
Going back to the bus routes Salford is in like 4 areas and you can't get from one to the other. For me to get to Salford City's ground I'd need to go into Manchester, get a bus going towards Bury, get off in Prestwich (which is Bury council) and walk back into Salford. The part of Salford the ground is in is really isolated.
So the catchment area for Salford City is extremely small. I don't buy into any of this TV Wrexham stuff. There's also no parking near the ground.
Neville was looking at moving the club to where the rugby team play. The problem being that it could only have two tenants and Sale (who play the posh version of rugby - rugger buggers) are also there. Salford rugby who the ground was built for (but the council own it) are the poorest out of the 3. This was then looking like the rugby team was gonna swap grounds with the football team. As you can imagine this went down like a cup of cold sick. So there was perhaps a little less warmth towards the football team which probably impacted on crowds.
The FC United argument is of course incredibly complex as well. The majority of United fans from Salford despise FC Utd. There was a lot of ill feeling when it was formed and was seen as disloyal. The second season for FC saw them play Salford City twice, once in the cup. As a United fan it was horrible to see reds pitted against each other. Glazer rent boys and Judas scum were sung. The game stopped at one point when some 'Salford" fans went on the pitch with a judas scum banner. The game was a played at the old rugby ground , the atmosphere was very tense and unsurprisingly resulted in violence. So bizarrely they may both be little Uniteds but you'd be one or the other if you had a second local team. However most don't.
I don't see anything wrong with a second team if it's non league. Any other type like Celtic and Liverpool, United etc is just a massive no. So I suppose that's what Salford City are, peoples second non league team that aren't non league any more. As it happens I'm moving next month to Prestwich. I was a season ticket holder at United for nearly 30 years but can't manage it being disabled now. I watched a handful of Salford games years ago. I might go because I miss football, but I'll always be United, whose second team is Salford Rugby League.
You've done American Football, you should do a Rugby League video. Leeds would be a good one to do.
This is a phenomenal comment. Thank you for this.
Well said mate 👍🏻
It makes no sense if people at Salford who used to support Man Utd view FC United fans as disloyal.
So it had a Sheffield postcode? Quite odd.
@@S050683s for salford
If you’re an adult hurling abuse at children, you need to reevaluate your life and whether society should treat you as an adult.
Shush you melt
@@bobthesexbuilder4719 Outing yourself as pro child abuse is a weird look.
@@jpohl1968 I’m 14 lad
@@bobthesexbuilder4719 Yea, and I’m Mickey Mouse.
@@jpohl1968 well done for you mate. I’m 14 so what if you don’t believe it
It doesn't help that Salford is so close to the centre of Manchester, it's bascially absorbed into it, Old Trafford is 5 minute walk from the border of Salford in fact it's closer to more of Salfords population than Salfords stadium is
Salford is a massive place nearly 300k people
@@joegilbert3149 yeah and most of that population is closer to Old Trafford than to Salford's Stadium. They have more than a dozen football clubs in a 20 mile radius, 5 of which have been in the Premier League, and a lot of Rugby clubs as well. There is so much choice that you can have a population of 300,000 but divided by all of them you won't have that big a support.
@@Alex-cw3rz the Peninsula Stadium is much closer to Prestwich than it is to Salford proper
@@joegilbert3149 Someone from Irlam isn't going to support Salford City, they've got their own team
@Alex-cw3rz if it wasn't for away fans Salford would get 1400 most weeks loads of fans can't go to Old Trafford because they are priced out, what's the issue not to go to a local game it's a massive massive place.
I go to Salford a few times a season, it’s super local to me. It’s a cheap ticket and they have live music at full time so a good day out. You can’t deny that the crowd is full of United fans though - you see more United shirts than Salford. Last time I went we made friends with about fifteen Japanese students and there were lots of Americans too. The location is a weird place because it’s in the middle of the Orthodox Jewish part of the city, so unique place for a stadium. Also Lupo’s is the absolute best! Glad you found it.
Despite being popular with irish folk singers, Dirty Old Town was written about Salford hence why they play it
We’ll claim anything we like 🤣.
@@IrishJonexcept Northern Ireland hahahah
@@Tom-ms7ep we’re working on it 👀🤣
@@IrishJonyeah you keep thinking that buddy 😂
@@HowardClare I bet you're fun at parties 🤣! Relax Howard, it's the comment section of UA-cam video! 😂
A mate of mine is a season ticket holder, he's a United fan who can't afford to go old Trafford and his season ticket is sub £200. Most of the drinking is done in nearby Prestwich bout a mile away.
Cheltenham fan here. I blame you for our loss
it was because your crap...... and your fans are worse
Yes that I can understand
Thought going to Leeds was a regular occurrence for you Ellis
Not a Leeds fan but they have the most loyal fanbase ans always are full on away tickets
What do you expect? It’s the biggest city in Europe with only one professional club.
@theterrier5476 that's definitely not true
@@listey it is true mate who you support
This joke was funny about 3 videos ago
Awaydays: "I want Cheltenham to in now"
Salford: Proceeds to score and win the game
Think it’s important to remember every fan cares and supports in their own way. John unfair to say “no one near me cares.” Just because they aren’t singing or shouting doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t care. You need a mix, you can’t have everyone screaming all game. Every fan will experience the game differently.
I've heard "if you don't go to the games you're not a real fan" several times in my life. It's such a weird opinion to have. I hate being around random people, especially when they are very close to me and i can barely move around. Just because i sit on my couch watching the game doesn't mean i don't care as much as you do.
Exactly, if they’ve decided to spend their money and afternoon on going to the game they must care at least a little bit.
This is true, however I think in this context it accompanies the fact that a large portion of the crowd are Man U or Man City fans
They came to this game because algorithms tell them turning up to a unpopular team will get them more views, likes and subs. This isn't random, this isn't one guy turning up at a football game by chance. The days of throwing a dart and going to the game are gone, unless that will make them more money of course.
@@superstardeejay2468 WTF? It's literally the point of the video to visit the most unpopular team.
I think you sometimes underestimate how much fun this channel is for a lot of people here. I love Videos like this and honestly hope that you will do this for many years to come!
I’m a Salford season ticket holder on the west stand (Standing Section behind the goal). The west stand is good limbs and all of the seats are very quiet and just full of happy clappers. It’s definitely growing but it’s hard for people to care when most ‘fans’ support Man United and City. Although I will say our away support is good even though the numbers are low. This was a good video but I wish you would’ve sat closer to the west stand to see how it is with the louder fans.
As Americans in Seattle were in the same boat. Full support to you respect
@@jax2065 Fight! And win!
I'm Salfordian and find most people support Man Utd, followed by Bolton and Man City. I don't think football fans around here considered supporting Salford as an option until recently so chose from the nearest ones. No doubt they'll get more fans as time goes on.
Had some good clashes with Salford glad to see them go through the leagues the way they have and still wish them all the best from a Farsley Celtic fan
“This is a big team there playing “ comfirmed by Ellis Cheltenham are massive up the town
Hahaha
Should go to a League of Ireland match lads, you’ll be surprised with the passion of each fan base, singing from the start until the very end🇮🇪👍
Just don’t go to a UCD game
Cuz all your plastics are busy watching united and Liverpool
@@M-attc1626 True🤣🤣🤣
@@JS-id7nd Not on about Plastic fans fella, Irish fans are far from that 🤣 No offence lad but if that’s your mentality of Irish football then you’re in for a big surprise👍
@@daslothboy0454#Bohs
Looks like a very good club still in the very very early stages of its existence. As more people turn away the PL, clubs like Salford will grow.
Established clubs were in the early days of their existence well over 100 years ago... Salford City is an artificial construct and is unloved
they have maybe reached their limit now
I've got to admit I thought it was just me that couldn't stand Salford. The Nevilles and their mates could have taken over someone like Bury and saved them, though Bury in Red shirts would have looked naff.
Bury weren’t in trouble when they took Salford over in fairness!
The Class of 92 had already owned Salford for 5 years when Bury went downhill. Would have cost them a lot more to buy as Bury were in League 1 in 2013.
@slightlyconfused. So you hate the Neville’s because they took over a team that was in the 8th or 9th tier when Bury were in Lge 1?
Bury were in a poor state in 2013 which is why an absolute crook called Stewart Day was able to buy the club and spend the next 5 years destroying it.
love these lower league vids get to see proper fans enjoying proper grassroots football none of this VAR nonsense or Some clubs having ridiculous amounts of money(great to see John back on the channel)
Even as a Man City fan I agree - much rather watch lower league videos like this
Proper fans ... get over yourself. There are plenty of proper fans who support teams who happen to be successful as well.
@@scottm9158 I’m sure there is but they’ll never get the same atmosphere as you get down in the lower leagues. Proper community football where a club brings people together.
@@scottm9158support from their front room
Regarding chants and other personal abuse, it's not something confined to just Salford City fans. I hear it from a lot of fans from multiple clubs that have come to play my team in League 1. We always talk about how football can bring the best out of people but it also brings out the worst. Honestly, I'd be heartbroken if I was subjected to some of those chants.
Completely agree with you. I've been to tons of games and you'll always get a portion of fans who sit the closest to the away fans just to hurl abuse.
I don't understand it as you've paid a ticket to watch your team and half the time they aren't even looking at the pitch
Time & a place - and this weren't it
Most goes over my head, but ‘ten German bombers’ makes me rage every time (Cov fan). Like the idiots joking about Leicester and helicopters, just please, get some brains. Digs about being fat or inbred or crap etc, dumb but whatever, but stuff that’s laughing at death is not on.
Crowd behaviour is a beast of its own, I guess. Lowest common denominator.
Shameful, no one deserves to be made to feel uncomfortable.
It's not a "snowflake" thing, it's a common decency thing.
Yeah, banter is Oldham fans singing "We've got Boris Johnson" to a steward, this is just scum behavior.
@@helvete983 Oldham 1976 v MILLWALL with Man United thereafter their hiding at Millwall the previous week and they were out for revenge. I got caught up with The United mob in the ground and was singing,as a Millwall fan, United songs NOT realizing my Millwall scarf was showing. lol After the game I knew there would be 3-way trouble in the surrounding alleys so left my mates and went solo around the outskirts of Town and bumped into 15 Unnted who were walking towards me 100 yards away. Luckily,I saw a local Man on his front doorstep and walked up to him and asked him to shout "See you tonight,lad" and I smiled and waved and they assumed I was a local.Phew....lol
If you're uncomfortable in that moment then lay off KFC and Macies for a bit.
@@Zelea-nj3pz or hope people are not all vile trolls like you with nothing better in their life
@@artful1967 new capitalist ideologies teaches us to be comfortable in our bodies right? So why feel uncomfortable? It’s the likes of KFC and McD behind these ‘feel good in your own body’ campaign so they don’t lose clients. So either ‘feel good’ or drop their crap from your diet, simple.
Thought you’d already been to Man City
Fucking knew I’d see this as soon as I saw the thumbnail 😂
@@Hellothere-ok4pkhe has to be a red cartel club fan 😂 bitter since the treble
I was thinking MK Dons but this works too
@@snookerstones don’t cry about my harmless joke too much sunshine
Won’t you just get a life they always have fans filled every match
Dirty Old Town was written by Ewan McColl about Salford, and it's gone on to be recorded by some of the biggest folk groups like the Pogues and the Dubliners
I went 2023 and had a similar experience to you
From the 2nd minute I was hearing score updates from the United game (and Arsenal weirdly). I didn’t see ‘bullying’ but there was a group having an open conversation that can best be described as ‘crass’ when they were in a family section and surrounded by kids- along with standard football abuse to refs (more acceptable but again - surrounded by kids), and to top it off absolute library. Accrington away fans put them to shame, only thing you could hear.
Sounds just like a Toronto Maple Leaf game.
I went to this game as a Cheltenham fan, I totally agree, a souless game and atmosphere.
Felt like a pre season friendly.
14:27 that chap behind John having a lucky dip 🤣
Ten years ago, Peter Lim bought Valencia CF in Spain. Back then, it used to be always in he Champions League. Now, it sits at the bottom of the standings, aiming to avoid relegation to the second division.
Beer back again, that’s what we like to see!
Difference with this and Wrexham is that those wrexham residents absolutely love and always have loved their club and showed up through hard years still
They didn't show up... Most of them are Liverpool fans
Excellent video again! Hats off to the Away Days.
Uncultured American here, but the point you brought up a little past the 4 minute mark is really interesting to me, because here in the States and Canada, we also have a very grim outlook on sports ownership in what we call the "Big 4" leagues here, but it's so crazy to me that our sports leagues do not even have a fraction of the amount of turnover that something like Premiere soccer gets, almost solely because of how differently the league is structured.
North American sports leagues don't do relegation and promotion (mostly for geographic reasons), as such, it's not really possible for some jagoff with too much money for his own good to just nonchalantly "buy" a team for PR and run it into the ground, because in the North American scope, you either have to buy a major league franchise, or buy a minor league franchise FROM a major league one- which in comparison to soccer's "minor leagues" (I'm not sure what they're called compared to the premiere leagues), are more expensive and a much bigger commitment.
For instance, if you own an AHL club, and you put a moron in charge of player acquisition, and then a bigger moron in charge of coaching and development, that mismanagement is going to tank the NHL club because you're essentially "poisoning the farm". It's just interesting to me that, over there, it's an issue that happens routinely and continue to happen routinely to small clubs, where over here, minor league markets not only stand on their own in some cases, but have a solid degree of protection if they're affiliated to a straightedge organization.
A place like Des Moines or Wilkes-Barre doesn't *necessarily* need to stand on its own as a market, because they have security in being linked to the Wild and Penguins. Where because they don't use an affiliate system, but instead, a relegation system out in the UK, smaller markets are much more autonomous, but at massive cost to their stability and long term security. It's strange to me that one side of the pond is experiencing that as a routine issue in their leagues, where in North America, when you have an owner like David Tepper, Bob Nutting, Jerry Reinsdorf or Alex Meruelo, it's a HUGE deal and other owners even actively work against them.
Skelmersdale United. We have a town of over 60,000 residents,we get about a hundred fans on average. Liverpool, Everton and United dominate here. It’s tragic.
Skelmersdale is a bit like Milton Keynes in that it's only really been developed in the last 50-60 years, a lot of families come from Liverpool originally and hand that down from generation to generation.
@@RW-nr6bh it's not been developing at all for the last 30 I'm afraid . We did recently get a new Lidl and a poundstretcher, so we're on the up 😂
Remember them playing Dagenham in a final in the early 70s .
@@RW-nr6bh That can change though. Almere in The Netherlands (about the same size as Milton Keynes) used to be completely oriented at Ajax since most of their residents came from Amsterdam. They've had a football club for about 20 years that used to be the 'ugly duckling' for most of its existence. But since the football club started doing better a few years back, alongside there now being a solid generation of people with their roots only in Almere, you've seen a change. Their tiny stadium is always sold out since they were promoted to the Eredivisie, and they have a young and quite passionate fanbase. This has also come along with the whole city gradually developing its' own character, which it was always lamented for not having.
Perhaps most telling: last year my local side (this is very, very local football) were playing a relegation match against a similarly minor side from Almere. There was a small group of young lads from Almere, and they were all singing Almere City songs throughout the game. That goes to show that for a lot of young kids, Almere City is now their first team, whereas it used to be a 'second team' to Ajax fans from Almere. Quite nice to see really.
Salford's problem is the fact that they are in a very crowded football market in Greater Manchester which has many bigger and better established teams as you pointed out in the video, the reason the Wrexham story is more compelling is because they have a glorious past (if you are a big fan of the welsh cup) and a large catchment being the only professional club in North Wales.
They're just unfortunate to be surrounded by so many other clubs, many high up in the pyramid. If you're a Man United fan you might go to one of their games but the hype would die down quick. I feel for their genuine fans
Realistically, they are a step 3/4 club who have ended up in league two. This is a similar atmosphere to non league games at step 3/4, its just a local day out, something to do
Greetings from Iraq. Don’t care for soccer but enjoy the banter between you two.
Not a snowflake at all you're 100% right...football fans can be right weirdos sometimes like banter is banter but to just randomly pick 1 kid out and proceed to slag them off all game instead of actually watching the game is pathetic
6:30 Wigan and Bolton are also technically in Greater Manchester and there are a few big rugby clubs locally (including Wigan) in the area. Also Liverpool is only 30 miles away as well
Exactly this couldn’t have said better myself
Yeah but wigan don't count there a woeful team with a terrible stadium and awful fans. last season they averaged 10,000 and bolton averaged 21,000.
Salford Red Devils (the original Red Devils) rugby league club is nearer than Wigan.
The residential area around the Peninsula Stadium has a large Jewish population. There obviously isn't much attraction for them in watching Salford City.
Before Salford got bought by the seven ex-Utd players, Bury was the most popular club, just a 10-minute drive away.
@@HowardClare Referring to the 10,000 fans as awful is beyond stupid. They support their club - if other people don't, what are they supposed to do about it? Are the 21,000 Bolton fans awful because there are not 75,000 of them, like their big rivals Man Utd? Why do most people from Bolton not support their club?
Also idiotic is that you are saying that 10,000 fans don't count, on a video about a club with 2700 supporters. All 2700 of them count, as do all the Wigan fans. Stop being daft.
still a league 2 team and playing in league for several years now, which is something of an accomplishment. Being in league 2 though in greater Manchester with the MU and MC in the area make it hard to build fanbase. It is not London, only so many people there and with 2 huge powers the fan need is not there. i am sure they will just do what they do. they are also a middling league 2 team who are either middle or just trying to hang in. if they get to a point they start pushing for promotion fan excitement may pick up in the area for them
Was wondering when this video was uploaded why it was so much shorter than some of the last videos now I see why cause there was fuck all going on.
Think it is a jealousy thing. I used to be a fan of Gretna FC in the Scottish division. Following promotion to the SPL the club chairman passed away. The club went into administration and are now a reformed club as Gretna 2008 and play in the lowland football league. As of late they have struggled to sign players due to work permits from England and due to Gretna being on the Scottish border there really isn’t a lot to do. So when you see a club like Salford you do get a hint of jealousy. Any lower league fan would maybe against a massive take over at 1st but would start to enjoy the benefits in the end
JOHNS BACK, GET IN!!! 🎉
I went to Salford City on a bit of a whim when I couldn't get to my own team's away game. I didn't really expect to like it but i was pleasantly surprised. There was a reasonable crowd there and everyone was friendly enough. The atmosphere was pretty good too. Maybe Salford was a vanity project to start with, but it feels like now the owners are simply happy to have a football club for the fans that plays at a reasonable level but doesn't seek world domination.
I think MK dons is less cared about given it's basically a rebrand of wimbledon with no fans as the fans recreated wimbledon themselves.
Used to go to Salford a lot during the non league days not long after the take over. The atmosphere used to be unreal. Sad to see how it’s gone..
7:03 Lovely seeing the bloke smoking and then doing a massive goz behind Ellis 😂
One of the fans you interviewed commented that it was great when the fans turned up on a Saturday, but where were they on a cold wet Tuesday night? That was certainly the case when I made my only visit with my team Tranmere (although it wasn't raining that night). The game was originally scheduled for New Years Day 2022, but Salford's squad was riddled with Covid at the time so the game was called off. When rescheduled, the crowd totalled around 2100, of which 1200 was from Tranmere, meaning the home support was only around 900.
The night I visited, I went to another pub called The Star, which is a community-run pub, about the same distance from the ground as the one you visited, but the other side of the ground. Both are about a mile away, but still the closest two to it.
My local USL2 club gets more attendance. Pretty shocking to me.
Thats really wild because USL 2 don't even have like an actual TV deal. Kinda hard to watch USL in general. Least on the upside. Most USL clubs have a higher attendance than a every non-government owned Saudi Pro League team
My local team (Hartford) gets 5,500 avg but that's USL
From a Brentford fan, you can’t buy class. Suffered many many years of misery ( and probably more suffering to come) . But care deeply about my club…. 🐝💤
looking good my friend! skin is looking way better as well, keep the vids coming 💙
Travelled from Belgium with my son for ManU for Sunday, saw the game against Carlisle the day before. Was great "warm-up" for our main event on Sunday, also other weekend tourists from the mainland seemed to be around.. The atmosphere was quite loud when the whole away end was full of visiting supporters, (making the attendance to nearly 4000), all in all a pleasant experience with my 10yo son.
You should get down to Harrogate, smallest ground in the efl. Plus family owned and managed for the past 16or so years
Can I suggest you go to a game at the Isles of Scilly? The Isles of Scilly are off the coast of Cornwall, and there is the Isles of Scilly Football League. Which has a grand total of 2 teams. Yes, just two. Woolpack Wanderers and the Garrison Gunners. They play each other about 20 times a year, and whoever wins the most games of those, is that year's league's champion. BTW, if you go and ask to play for one of the teams, they might actually let you.
You should give Solihull Moors a go, a well run club, however really struggles with attendances, as it is also everyone's second club in the area
It's also 2 clubs as 1
I went to a Solihull game, it was very cool to see villa, blues, wolves and baggies fans drinking and supporting the moors together 👍
@@nathinho_ it's the same at my club Stourbridge
@@JamesHingley-x9q oh cool man I'll look them up
@@nathinho_ it's a good laugh at Stourbridge we play in the Southern League Premier.
Nothing wrong with Salford.
Just the home kit should have been kept a shade of Orange. 💁🏻♂️
Salford is the original "Dirty Old Town?"
That's pretty cool to learn.
Good to see them paying homage to Salford lads like John Cooper Clark (spoken word poem) and Ewan McColl who wrote Dirty Old Town about the place.
You might be familiar with his daughter, Kirsty, a great singer and writer tragically taken too soon.
Even Salford City’s owners are bigger United fans than their own club. So this makes sense.
Salford is mostly known for the classic song 'Dirty Old Town':
'I met my love by the gas works wall
Dreamed a dream by the old canal
I kissed my girl by the factory wall
Dirty old town…'
Written by Ewan McCall (Kirsty's dad) and covered by The Pogues amongst others.
Many a Sofodian died in the industrial revolution - so 'Away Days' can have nice things.
Ellis go to Corinthian Casuals in Tolworth, Surrey. Loads of history! Linked with Brazilian club Corinthians, Manchester United’s biggest ever defeat is to them it’s a great club I played for them back in the day
That Smiv On The Road episode featuring them is probably my favourite ever
salford who used to be orange changed their colours, like crystal palace and luton, they changed their identity. luton had derby county colours and palace had claret and blue stripes with the blue being dominant
8:13 Ellis clearly not realising that 10 years into Leeds' existence they were First Division title contenders so that's not the best example
Im a West Brom fan that’s moved really close to Salford City, I’d go a lot more if it was cheaper but it’s £20 for a non league experience
Man City when they get relegated to the 10th level of the pyramid
Let's hope
@@dylankeville1026haha we’ve proper ruined your life haven’t we Hahahahaha
Too many people there
@@Boxag Oh god no you've given many a red years full of comedy. You might be mutton dressed as lamb and a crowd resembling Disneyland but blues are blues, they still give a giggle.
@@monton80 absolutely rent free in there
You lots were lucky to seat in that stadium right now. I used to go there before the takeover and it was a ground waiting for someone to demolish it. I still thank the Class of '92 for buying the club and never giving up in making it better.
There he is again our Jon, serious business now
Before the takeover they were on a level with Cheadle Town & Woodley Sports. Ninety per cent of their home crowd turned up post take over, which is pretty good finding 1000 people willing to pay to watch a club they'd ignored before. They'll survive because it's easy to recruit players around here.
leipzeg point is spot on
I lived in Manchester for a few years, went to many teams in the surroundings areas (Wigan, Salford, Altrincham, Stockport), and none of them have any form of fan base, they all support teams from the city
love jon boy on the channel - hope to see more of him
Smaller clubs like Salford, Accrington Stanley and Wigan Athletic help to add depth to the North West being a real hotbed for football.
Too much an uphill task. To compare to Stockport or Wrexham is silly they both had hardcore fanbases in their darkest days that are over and above Salfords highest attendance ever. You can't build a fanbase and fan culture out of thin air. Bad buy for the class of 92. They're 10x smaller than the aforementioned.
The Class of 92 bought Salford City by mistake. I had tweeted a few of them to ask them to buy Salford City Reds rugby league team, that had just gone into administration. A couple of months later it was announced they'd bought Salford City instead.
What a psychopath. He puts the milk in with the tbag still in the cup.
In all fairness, Salford were the sort of Man City of non league. They used to get like 50 to a game before they got taken over and now only 10 years later they get over 3k so most of them cant be life long die hard fans
I would love you to do a follow-up to this about my team, Harrogate Town, who might have an even smaller fan base than Salford.
When we played Salford last season on the final day, many fans joked that it was the battle of who had fewer fans.
Our ground is also in the middle of a suburban area, but it’s even worse because it’s on a main road, and there is no room to expand the ground. We do have two pubs reasonably close by, though. It’s miles away from Betty’s, yet when Footy Focus reported in 2019 about their 1st round FA Cup match, they did the interviews at Betty’s, which says a lot about the club's lack of identity.
The unique thing about Harrogate is that the manager, Simon Weaver, is the owner of Irvin’s son, which makes for awkward discussions about whether the manager is still in this job because of his dad.
The bit where people ask you about the Man U score is very relatable to me; people are always asking about the Leeds score at Harrogate. I remember one afternoon when Harrogate won, and as we were clapping the players off, a big cheer went up because Leeds scored a late winner. I have to think that many fans wouldn't bother coming to our games if Leeds were playing. Bradford City fans claim Leeds fans fill out our away section when we play at their place, which I don't think is true, but I think we do get more fans when we play Bradford because of the rivalry with Leeds.
Other small clubs that have done well are Forrest Green Rovers (though they’ve fallen away recently), Crawley Town, Fleetwood Town and Burton Albion (who were in the Championship for two seasons).
You could also do the reverse, a big club that's now in the lower leagues, Scunthorpe United (top of National North), Torquay United (in the middle of a second spell in the sixth level right now), Hartlepool United (who Rob and Ryan also considered buying) or York City (with their boring ass new ground miles out of the city).
Yh they're my local club wish there was an ultra section
14:30 in and the random man taking something out the bin 😂
As a Salfordian, been to Salford City FC a few times where its had a decent attendance, like you witnessed it's extremely hard to get to and nothing around the peninsula stadium and if United or City are on it can be dire, the only two real teams cared about in the City is Salford Red Devils (The Original Red Devils, Rugby League, one of the oldest sporting institutions in the city, top flight of Rugby League and came 4th this season) and Manchester United for football, I know more people starting to attend Salford City FC but its more if United, City or Salford Red Devils are not playing, they need to be more central for the club to grow (which is why they tried swapping to the Salford Community Stadium with the Salford Red Devils, which didnt go down well).
The issue Salford FC face is that if the Class of 92 pull out and with the council now focusing on a Rugby strategy for the city (Since Rugby League is what the city is known for) I dont see FC growing.
Thank you for saying, “I’m not a Tory”! I never thought you were, but it’s great to hear you say it.
Given granny killer Starmer's first couple of month's I would not be to keen to admit being Liebour either.
@@1orissLiebour are worse than the bloody Tories!
Imagine thinking labour are any better.
Only been to Salford once, in the Away End with Orient first game of the 2021/2 season, therefore first League game with fans in the ground post Covid. Our end was sold out, Home sections not much more than half full after a year and a half without being able to go. To be fair to those who were there, they did support their team quite well. Being where they are, as you point out in the video, they'll always struggle to build a big fan base.
Went there with Notts County and had more fans than them on a Friday night. Dead club.
Shame Notts County suffered their first loss this season earlier
Did an away day vlog of that game! Wa class
@@RyanBromhead503 It was coming. Still a great start to the season.
@@camEB Brilliant night. Soon as I saw all the Man U shirts, we had to win at all costs.
Getting to the ground is horrible, there's nothing around there at all. Went once, never again, not worth the hassle.
Darlington mentioned?⚪️⚫️🔴
I used to sometimes go down pre takeover. Midweek games you'd have about 50 people there. They took over and changed the colour, badge, name of the ground etc and brought with them a load of United fans. As a blue it was an instant turn off. Most people are red or blue and it will take years of kids growing up with it to build proper support.
But Ellis… you’ve already been to Leeds silly 🙄
Before the Hollywood takeover, Wrexham was doubling Salfords average League 2 attendance in non-league
Ellis please go to dorking wanderers
You always love your club unfortunately its an unbalanced relationship you love them, you pay and occasionally get something back . More misery than ecstasy but it calls you back for those europhic moments. Thats the hook .
"There's no one here, what's the point" is proabably what a lot thought about Exeter City in 2002. Pair of patronising tories. Thete are 1000 clubs up and down the country where hardly anyone watches them, and yet they still represrntvtheir community. If football was only about who was there to watch them, there would only be one league with 20 or so teams.
14:32 I legit thought that dude was taking a piss right in front of the camera 🤣
Coffee?this generation is soft behind belief.
8:28 get some food!! Classic Ellis !
I think not caring is a very healthy relationship with football. I’m all for it.
It has its pros and cons
@@awaydaysfootball as a Southampton fan right now, there are more cons...
It seems as though Salford is the second team for the majority of their fans, kind of explains the apathy towards them.
Doesn't help that their owners also care more about another club down the road.
Do think the £20 a ticket maybe a bit steep too.
GO TO DORKING WANDERERS
Big up Marc
Try Farnborough v Dorking in November. Marc White goes up against a possible alter ego in Spencer Day.
I went to Salford to watch Grimsby play them in December and the atmosphere from the home was absolutely dead. Considering the increased away attendance in the EFL, there home attendance has actually dropped since the National League. No way it can be sustainable
Adding milk with the tea bag still in the cup is fucking criminal.
Not really sure why Salford are any less legitimate than any other club. It has history, followed by locals, owned primarily by locals. Usually like your subject matter but this feels a little bit bandwagon-ish and the tone of the video is patronising. Isn't this just how every team started out at one point or another?
Bit judgemental, Ellis. If people are having fun, let them do so. No need to gatekeep football.
Talking about the losers hurling abuse at a child...?
@@gameofjones4693 No, I meant the people just enjoying the game and not chanting or the people who go as their second club.
No ones gate keeping anything. But you can see this is objectively shite compared to other teams at that level.
@@macewol326 You don't need to have chants or get smashed before the game to enjoy it. You certainly don't need to be in a funk all weekend or week. This seems like a nice family-friendly outing (not including the losers hurling abuse at a child). It's not as intense but they're not hurting anyone; it's just different. Each to their own. That guy who goes with his son and that girl with a season ticket were enjoying themselves.
We went to Red Star Belgrade last month and it was only 10% Full