@@paulpowell6418 He didn't say that. On contrary, he repeatedly said that he believes merely being a Calvinist does not make one lose salvation; but being a teacher propagating this false doctrine...well, that could be problematic. You believe your salvation is in Christ, that should be good enough for it to take place.
@@paulpowell6418 Now now Paul, this is anything but an honest question 🙂. You're not such a good act, Paul, nor are you that dense. Allow me to sidetrack as well and tell you another strategy of a Calvinist: employing the same strategy you are trying to pull here. You know it, and I don't have to type it for you. Sorry, I won't entertain your shtick - as a mainstayer in Brian's videos comments (me), you are free to check them and form an educated opinion on my ignorance or lack thereof. "Groundhog Day" was an entertaining little movie, but that's about it. You guys respawn after every comment I post with the same questions and think you come up with something new. You don't.
@@paulpowell6418 Yes, you follow a man's demon-inspired, perverted interpretation of the Gospel. You won't agree with my statement, and that's fine: none of us will change the other's opinion. I cut through all the fluff and went for the jugular - metaphorically speaking (this will be relevant later): I am not "hating" or disparaging you. Sorry, no safe spaces here. That does not mean you don't have "enough truth" (regarding the basis of your salvation) so that I can hug you in Heaven while you will acknowledge the errors of your ways (hopefully, not having blood on your hands) 🙂 (forgive my flesh showing here). The fact you believe I am not saved (if applicable), or that I will be saved based on Christ's work on the cross (and in spite of my wonky theology) is not something that affects my eternal destiny. Maybe you "extend" this "grace" toward me, maybe not: regardless, and going back to my answer: I still think you will be saved (unless you insist not to). As for it being gnostic? Well bro I find that true, albeit in a metaphorical way. (Again, you guys have a tendency of being blind to nuances, and take everything literally. I would be surprised for this not to be the case here.) I found this description initially surprising and fitting well enough, in the "closest thing to" way. In all practicality...it is. 🙂 After 40 years in the church and a Masters in Theology, I assure you I have an idea what Gnosticism is. I had to explore their interpretation of Paul's "Powers and Principalities" for my dissertation, so I rubbed my shoulders with them a little bit. And that concludes our short discussion here. "Okay, thanks" in response to my original answer would've sufficed.
@@AbBowhunter Projecting much? I've seen you do that exact thing literally a dozen times in the comments of different videos. And then you throw out comments exactly like above. Make false accusations, strawman arguments, and never have anything of substance to contribute. Always just a contrarian nonargument. It's always just arrogant contradiction with no point other than to gloat you're so much smarter and more humble than all these stupid, crazy people who really believe they have a two way relationship with God. The blind hypocrisy is mind boggling. You people ask stupid questions and then whine when you get an answer you disagree with. To Paul's question--You want to know what a Calvinist is? It's an overly religious, carnal, false convert who was never saved and was always dead in their self righteousness and religious pride who knows nothing of faith/trust in Christ and claims psychological tricks and works of the flesh are the fruits of the Spirit, and is ultimately attempting works based salvation with a grace crudely scribbled on it in crayon, but because of cognitive dissonance (demonic strongholds) can't comprehend it and doesn't have the humility to actually see themselves as Christ does --OR-- they are someone who had the seed of faith planted but it never grew right or blossomed as it should--they were just barely saved or nearly saved but was snatched away by the devil (seed snatched by the birds), led into deception, and the demonic doctrines which have established strongholds in their minds severely hinder their fruit for the Kingdom of Heaven, deafens them to the Holy Spirit, and leaves them deceived in their self righteousness, religious pride, and false humility. Their lives are governed by religious pride demons acting as counterfeit holy spirits leading them further and further into deception. You don't have the Holy Spirit witnessing to your spirit that you are saved, you don't have the blessed living hope of Christ, you have zero spiritual discernment or other gifts of the spirit--only works of the flesh and natural abilities of the flesh, and with no testimony of justification or spiritual revelation of grace, so it is literally impossible to confirm you're even saved or were ever at all and best case scenario you get to heaven and Christ reprimands you for all the people you led astray to damnation but shows mercy on you because you really did believe on Him that one time at camp when you were 8 and He kept His promise to save you despite your lifetime of idolatry because that is how merciful God is! He's not the devil you worship as the false god of Calvinism--your Great Value brand of "God's sovereignty" that makes Him a pathetic dictator--He's infinitely greater and glorious and holy and we don't deserve Him but He loves us so much that He saved us because we were such pathetic creatures that He saw an opportunity to glorify Himself through His work in us and to use us to bring His Kingdom to earth and show the world Christ through us to save as many as possible. For the love of God just believe on Him and stop working for the devil!
Calvinists have been bullies and elitist for hundreds of years. Back then they kicked out theologians from a council who didn’t agree with them. I like the approach that this content creator takes. You don’t have to be a theologian and use big words to have the truth of the gospel and to stand against false doctrine. I like to use the example of Jesus. Jesus was obviously the smartest man ever the live because he created all things. Yet, he related to man on their level. He talked about farming and the weather and sowing and reaping and good and bad fruit, etc. He was not an elitist like the Pharisees of his day and the theologians of our day.
Your right, Calvinism is diabolical. Those who promote that false teaching will have to give an answer at judgement day. It’s so sad they twist the words of God and the ultimate Sacrifice of Christ. Then again, all cults misrepresent Christ and twist Scriptures. Thanks for preaching the true Gospel Brian.
Thank you , I have a Pastor who has calvinist doctrines and what your saying about them being eletist and at times putting too much weight on their doctines to the point of gnotism rings true
Religious Elitism! You nailed it! That is exactly my experiences with these men. Got to say great work brother! You did an excellent job putting that corruption into words. Well done
Amen. Calvinism is a false and wicked doctrine. You’ve explained really well. Colossians 2:8 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
100% accurate description of Calvinism. The only thing I didn’t believe from this description when I was a Calvinist was the baby thing. But, that’s just because it was too hard to believe. I had no biblical support. Unfortunately It’s most logical in Calvinism that some babies aren’t elect and end up damned. Disgusting. That is NOT the God if the Bible.
Your story is sad. Your "when I was a Calvinist" story is getting old. You're like a blade of grass blowing in the wind. Being influenced by everything but biblical truth. Go watch some more Leighton videos.
@@paulpowell6418 I don’t claim Calvinists don’t have a will. I used to believe we had corrupt wills that could never want or respond positively to God. I don’t think Calvinism is Gnosticism. He’s just making a simple comparison in the way that gnostics believed they had special higher knowledge. Calvinists believe they have special higher knowledge. It’s just a parallel not a claim that they believe everything gnostics do. I agree the gospel is PRESENTED biblically. The fact though is, Calvinists deliberately withhold what they believe about who the gospel/ good news is really for.
Thank you thank you thank you I believe this to be a doctrine of demons call crazy but it's so refreshing to see somebody tell it like it is and the false teachers which are many and those who have been taught teach this false gospel and I firmly believe it is done intentionally to deceive the church crept in unaware I'm so grateful that you're taking this stand and speaking the truth about this heresy
In Calvinism the gospel isn't important. What's important is, "are you elect?" If you look at what Calvinism believes it leaves me wondering why Jesus even had to die. Calvin began with the presupposition of the philosophy of determinism and then he put that lens over Scripture and then interpreted it. I heard a Calvinist explain that God desires to show all His attributes and thus He has the reprobate so He can show His attribute of wrath. It is a horrible set of doctrines which lead one into the state of hopelessness and despair and nihilism. They can't even pray. They pray because "we're commanded to pray." They can't pray and ask God to intervene in any situation because all situations have been predestined by God. They don't have "victory over sin" because many are told after sharing their struggle, "God is using that to keep you humble." Even though we are promised that no temptation should overtake us because God is faithful and always provides a way of escape. Nope, if they sin, they sin because even though Scripture says they don't have to give in, if they do give in it is because God wanted them to sin. Then the self-righteous ones will tell some of them who are struggling with a sin that maybe they're not saved at all.
Calvinism = Depressing...when I first learned of the doctrine of calvinism it lead me into a deep depression for a very long time...caused me to lose hope for friends and family...haven't fully recovered yet...working on it.
In John 16: 33 our Lord Jesus Christ says, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." Can you reply with your first name? I want to add you to people I pray for, and others who are reading this comment may want to pray for you as well. Thanks. God bless you!
Hope this term makes others to see the true nature of this evil teaching. You are so clear in your description of this false teaching. I only wish I could have heard you 35 years ago,when I got tripped up by this devilish system. It was the darkest period of my life. But God was gracious and convinced me to stop believing those lies and trust only in the truth of His word. You are helping many and will save many from the deceitful lies they spin to trap the ignorant and unlearned.
Good job Brian, thank you for continuing to preach the truth about the false teachings of calvinism my friend . Calvinism does diminish the work of CHRIST'S death and resurrection and that's what I try to get across to calvinist when I encounter them in discussion . The result of the calvinist paradigm is that just as many people go to hell even if satan didn't exist which is to claim that GOD does the will of satan . Calvinism's claim that GOD created most of us to hate HIM and worship satan instead of HIM is blasphemy and there's no way around that to those of us who still have a grasp on reality . I've had many calvinist on occasion say to me so you think you know more than the giants of the faith and I tell them no , I just believe the information scripture explicitly provides whereas they didn't . GOD bless you brother keep em coming .
Excellent points. I have heard the "giants of the faith" argument as well many times. My answer is always the same... the giants of the faith are the inspired writers of Scripture, not the uninspired writers and defenders of Calvinist philosophy.
"You don't understand Calvinism!" I understand enough of it to not want anything to do with it, and I understand enough of it to not wanna be a Calvinist... 😊😊😁😁😆😆
Boom! "But you don't understand the fine nuances of wolf pack hierarchy, the biology of their entire digestive system...how can you say you'd hate to become their meal?! Preposterous, you pharisee!" Meanwhile, reading this thread (and not only...), I am shocked at how little, usually the most obnoxious of them, understand the other side. Some of then could have Jehovah Witnesses pull out their little notebooks and take notes in awe. Old men behaving like children and daring speak about Christlikeness. MacArthur & sons did a "great" job to indoctrinate them.
@@szilardfineascovasa6144 In my experience, most Calvinists do not understand Calvinism. Makes sense, because Calvinism feeds on the ignorant and brainwashes them with more ignorance.
@@eiontactics9056 It's sad. As much as I sometimes "duel" with them (probably because I am not the sharpest tool in the shed either), in the end I am sorry for them. Many (not all) have such a bitterness and judgemental spirit disguised under piety, it's mindboggling...
Calvinism is like a piece of mildew that keeps spreading, spreading and spreading. I remember 20 years ago I knew of 1 or 2 people who were Calvinist. Now, every new Christian I meet is one! Unbelievable. It has grown like a fungus. Almost every Gospel believing church is influenced by a writer who is a Calvinist.
Yes, its scary how that has grown so rapidly, but history tells us that Calvinism comes and goes in waves. We have been experiencing one of its upswings but hopefully it will die out again soon as more and more Calvinist people come to realize (and speak out) how it was just about being religious on the outside with no power and they leave it seeking truth and a real relationship with Christ our Savior and warn others. Sadly, some will just leave it and Christianity completely having a very bad taste in their mouth for anything of God, feeling foolish and betrayed by leaving men of Calvinism they had put all their trust in. I recently heard one Biblical scholar, Phil Stringer, say "Calvinism eventually destroys everything it touches" and I tend to agree with him.
I imagine that if a study were done of levels of narcissism is society there would be a correlation with levels of Calvinism. Some apologists and scholars I loved are Calvinists but I can no longer read them knowing what lies beneath (Koukl, Keller, Carson, Bignon to name but a few). Calvinism makes me feel physically uncomfortable and spiritual horrified.
I never realized how much the church I was a member of for my whole life ( I'm a70 bleep year old grandma)had such a calvinist tone about them. I had no thought in my head that we were a proud, man worshipping organization. Until I left that religion and began to read and study the Bible is when the diminishing aspects of that church was. They devalue who Christ is and preach that we all can catch up to where Jesus is if we're worthy and endure to the end. They say Jesus died for everyone except Adulterist and Murderers. Now that the Lord welcomed me into His fellowship by faith alone through grace alone in Christ blood alone I've had my eyes opened and my ears hear the true words of our Precious Lord. I praise Him daily for knocking at my door and when I opened the door He came in and dined (fed) with me. I am so blessed. I have so many family members that still believe the lie and won't let go of their pride to come to His true gospel (1 Cor 15: 1-4). I worry somewhat that I can't do more to serve the Lord do to health issues but I hand out cards with the gospel printed on them as often as I can. God Bless you young man for exposing the lies that kill, steal and destroy souls. You've been a blessing to me. All glory to God. Thank you. 😊❤☝️🙏
Thanks so much for the encouraging words! I pray that God will strengthen you, protect you and give you peace as you boldly hand out those Gospel cards, sharing the true Gospel that so many people desperately need to know about these days. Glory to God!
Calvinism made me ineffective for so many years. Once you become one you go on to try and convert others instead of being passionate about the Gospel. Even then you have a muddy accursed gospel with Perseverance.
When ever i ask a Calvinist the point of sharing Jesus they ALWAYS go circular. They say since we do not know who the elect are we have to share the gospel in obedience. Well at the end of the day if you are the elect heaven is guaranteed regardless . If there are no elect then SHARE JESUS.!!!
It comes down to what is authoritative to us, the Bible or man-made theology. We who oppose Calvinism learn our doctrines from Scripture and then evaluate theologies like Calvinism and what they teach through the lens of Scripture (2 Timothy 3: 16,17). What Calvinists do is learn doctrine from men, leading Calvinists voices, get indoctrinated and then they begin to evaluate Scripture through the lens of Calvinist theology. I did a video not too long ago about how cult members are much the less capable of realizing the danger and errors of their beliefs than a person who has studied the cult and its beliefs but didn't join it and recognizes how wrong it is based upon Scriptural authority. It is the latter who truly understands it properly. The cult member will never accept the fact they belong to a cult and will be very defensive against such a claim but ironically, all the while they will adamantly proclaim that everyone who does not accept their distinctive unique beliefs are too stupid to realize how superior their theology and beliefs are. Or they will say they are special and chosen by God to believe their doctrines and such spiritual enlightenment has been withheld from those who reject it.
@@faithonfireministries You are aware of the Quality Control performed by the Church Fathers to prevent Scripture from being edited to conform to an agenda? The very first instance of this is St. Polycarp’s rejection of Marcion’s Bible. Another noteworthy example is that St. Irenaeus worked to exclude the Gnostic Gospels, in particular the Gospel of Judas Iscariot. You will note that Calvin was highly critical of another Church Father, St. John Chrysostom. You yourself have pointed out how Mac was involved in the editing of the ESV. This type of editing also took place with Theodor Beza’s 1599 Geneva Study Bible (look up Crosswalk) when Revelation 22:19 was edited out. I came to a conclusion about Calvin’s two Biographers, Beza and de Bolsec. Beza, in addition to his editing of Scripture also published a book of Gay Pornography. Bolsec was a Medical Doctor who got into a spat with Calvin. I believe Bolsec.
Ironically enough it is those who persist in Calvinistic theology who end up proving they are not elect as they fall off the cliff into hell. Yeah I borrowed that imagery from Jack Chick, another Calvinist.
They did the exact same thing to Jesus and to the apostle Paul. The false teachers had convinced the Corinthians that Paul was a fake because he taught salvation by grace through faith. They even accused him of teaching that sin can bring glory to God! Isn't that what Calvinism teaches?
I am a lawyer who belongs to a non-Reformed denomination. Before applyiing to a Reformed seminary program in church and state studies, I e-mailed the presedent to ask if the school accepted non-Reformed applicants in this particular program. He responded that they accept only applicants who believe in "orthodox" Christianity. I have degrees from Baptist, public, and non-sectarian colleges. I have never run into this kind of elitism before.
That is interesting. Imagine how biased those seminary teachers are against any student who actually gets accepted and then raises any doubts about the reformed theology of Calvinism.
The god of this world has blinded ppl's eyes about principles and over 1800 years as had time to thoroughly entrench his demonic based false gospel conceits, in strategic places, in scholastic venues thus perpetrating countless parrots full of his satanic platitudes. Sort of like what the K-12 US Gov issued "learning" from Rockefeller's inculcation indoctrination views has done and done well.. Making stupor a degree of intelligence from the masses, that DON'T realize how malformed their minds have been formed Into. It's ALL 100% Manichaeism theology supported by the witchcraft of TULIP-West minister confession of 1639 logic. Sheer compete blasphemy, is the perception of the religious masses in USA especially. Telling these facts to ppl on YT is almost a complete WADTE of my time because their minds are so possessed by sorcery lies the Light of truth can hardly get thru to their soul. That is why the prophets said FEW will be that make it into the Eternal kingdom, FEW. Go view the vid "Augustus of HIPPO false doctrines" by cris wills. It will clear up all points why we see the USA entire SUN day sects are WALLOWING in SIN!!
I started disliking discernment ministries for many reasons and I didn’t know what Calvinism/Cessationism was until I found yours and Jew and Greek’s channels. Calvinism/Cessationism are the two main reasons I don’t like discernment ministries anymore and those two explain why they are heresy hunters because their doctrines are legalistic. All these discernment channels come from people who follow a dangerous cult.
My friend tried to indoctrinate me with Calvinism. I new nothing of what he was preaching to me. They throw in your face the "Sovereignty of God" and then use that to condemn you and make you feel like you have no free will to choose to believe or not to believe.
I’m looking for a video you made talking about how Calvinist like to point to “Celebrity Word of preachers calling them “wolves in sheep’s clothing”. You call them wolves in wolves clothing
That is tough one. I know what you are talking about and I remember saying that. In fact I have said that more than once but I do not remember precisely which videos it was that I said that in. My best guess is that it is most likely in one of the videos I have done about Cessationism as opposed to the videos focused primarily on Calvinism. Sorry I could not help pinpoint that one. God bless you!
I was one of those people who found these teachers online. I loved Voddie, Paul washer and others, but the more I listened the more I heard things that gave me some read flags. I thank God I’m in the word everyday, I weight what they said against scripture and it was disturbing. Obviously I stopped listening to their sermons. I thank God the Holy Spirit showed me the truth, I was almost fooled by false teaching.
Beautiful testimony and one everyone can learn from. You said it, the simple truth is that when a person reads the Bible for themselves everyday inviting the Holy Spirit in to teach us truth in God's Word, this is the greatest way to defend oneself against false teachers.
I've seen first hand the dread it has caused people in my life. The worry over themselves in especially their friends and family that God doesn't love them and provided salvation for them.
I agree with you. They often quote their favorite prooftext John 6: 44 while ignoring the rest of the Gospel of John, and especially not agreeing with John 12: 32. I've not once ever heard a Calvinist quote that verse or ever explain why they think it is wrong. They just pretend it does not exist, while John 6:44 is easily explained within the context of the rest of John's Gospel. This point you are making should be a clear indicator to everyone that Calvinists are loyal to their religious system of belief rather than trusting the full Word of God.
@Faith on Fire If you were serious about finding a Reformed interpretation of John 12:32, that is easily done. "32. If I be lifted up. Next follows the method by which the judgment shall be conducted; namely, Christ, being lifted up on the cross, shall gather all men to himself, in order that he may raise them from earth to heaven. The Evangelist says, that Christ pointed out the manner of his death; and, therefore, the meaning undoubtedly is, that the cross will be, as it were, a chariot, by which he shall raise all men, along with himself, to his Father. It might have been thought, that at that time he was carried away from the earth, so as no longer to have any interests in common with men; but he declares, that he will go in a very different manner, so as to draw upwards to himself those who were fixed on the earth. Now, though he alludes to the form of his death, yet he means generally, that his death will not be a division to separate him from men, but that it will be an additional means of drawing earth upwards towards heaven. I will draw all men to myself. The word all, which he employs, must be understood to refer to the children of God, who belong to his flock. Yet I agree with Chrysostom, who says that Christ used the universal term, all, because the Church was to be gathered equally from among Gentiles and Jews, according to that saying, There shall be one shepherd, and one sheepfold, (John 10:16.) The old Latin translation has, I will draw all things to me; and Augustine maintains that we ought to read it in that manner; but the agreement of all the Greek manuscripts ought to have greater weight with us." Commentary on John's Gospel, by John Calvin.
@Bobby Michaels As a Reformed Baptist, I hold to the position that our salvation is a monergistic work of God. But I'm also aware that if I had lived in Calvin's day, some of the things I hold as a Baptist would have put me in danger of Calvin's opposition. Also, there is no faithful minister of God alive today that I agree with 100% of the time. Example: James White, who holds to monergistic soteriology, has declared his support for post-millennialism, but I'm a historical premillennialist.
@@paulpowell6418 I think the advice to move on is pretty good. You're obviously welded on Calvinist, so why should you try to convince people of your point of view if in your religion nothing can be done to save them? A futile exercise. Leave us who believe in the great benevolence of God who desires that no one should perish to wallow in our joy and you go on in your miserable way believing in a god who desires most to go to hell. Good luck at the judgement.
@@paulpowell6418 No, that's not true. I think Brian has quite an excellent grasp of the tenets of your religion, and knows exactly how to paraphrase it without betraying its fundamental thrust. But such conscientiousness in you to "correct" sound doctrine according to the blasphemies of your belief system ought to be admired. What zeal. Spreading misery wherever you go with your accursed doctrine. Well done. I'm sure you'll be rewarded, but not as you might hope.
@@paulpowell6418 Perhaps you don't understand the doctrine you're so punctilious to defend. I'd be careful if I were you to not falsely accuse the righteous of lying on the basis of your mangled apprehension of the things of God. Move on. I will not return to you regardless of what you might say next. It's enough.
@@paulpowell6418 nope, he's correct. Seriously, time for you to move on. Surely there's a much better way to spend your time. Your interpretation of scripture suggests that we can't believe anyways because we're not the elect, so move on and enjoy your special election.
How to be saved for sure - the gospel of our salvation in the dispensation of the grace of God (our gospel given to our Apostle Paul by Jesus Christ = 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we make Him Lord of our life. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we repent and get baptized. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we fear God and work righteousness. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we confess our sins and ask for His forgiveness. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we receive Him as our personal savior. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we invite the Lord into our heart. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we receive the Eucharist of holy communion. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we keep the commandments and sell our possessions. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we forgive those who have trespassed against us. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we stop sinning. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we walk the isle and join the church. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we pray the sinners prayer. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we are confirmed. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we deny ourself, take up our cross and follow Him. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we observe Yom Kippur. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we endure unto the end. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we kneel at an old fashioned altar and cry a hot scalding bucket of tears. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if while listening to "Just as I am" we decide to walk the isle and give our heart to the Lord. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we pray the rosary. The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we DO ANYTHING! Don't pervert it by adding to it. The gospel is found in 1 Corinthians chapter 15:1-4. "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel... By which also ye are saved,... how that Christ died for our sins... he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures." Just keep it simple. (2 Corinthians 11:3) God says salvation is found through faith in the finished cross-work and resurrection (Ephesians 2:8-9.) It is only faith that can justify and count for our righteousness. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4:5) Salvation is not getting our sins forgiven, it's believing they already are! Source - Truth Time Radio - also on youtube - for solid Bible study!
@Faith On Fire Apt term “Doctrine of Diminishment”, Brian. I wonder if Calvinism is appealing due to some Protestant denominations’ negligence of preaching or getting believers to understand the assurance of our salvation.
The lack of teaching leads people in a lot of different, and rather bad, directions. OTOH, preach from the Bible and modern churches may kick you out. That's why so many men compromise and don't touch on controversial subjects.
I am still confused over why would Calvinists need to tell anyone about he Gospel. Would their apathy (stay locked-up in their churches) derail God's plan of salvation for those they don't tell about it? Preposterous! Alas, they seem more preoccupied to convert believers to their doctrine, so maybe they realized this loop "all pastors hate them for".
You nailed it. That is yet another inconsistency with their theology that speaks volumes against its validity. According to their theology God predestined all who will be saved and not one person will be added to that number and not one person will be lost from that number no matter what any human does. And yet, they certainly go to great lengths to try to prove to other Christians that they should leave their churches and join a Calvinist church... they usually say it in code this way.... join a church with "sound doctrine." There is no sound doctrine in Calvinism.
@@faithonfireministries Indeed, another paradox. Wish I came up with this one - but I heard it from from a most reliable second-hand source instead 😁. Needless to say, it stuck with me. You know what none of us heard from any Calvinist, though? A sound...answer 😁. There's just so much mental gymnastics involved in (paradoxically) making God "lesser" than what He is (from rendering Himself "vulnerable" - sorry, no better word in my posession - to rejection through the free will of His prized creation to someone that controls people like atoms), that alarms should go off. Calvinists have a false pretense at...having a higher view of God. "He's, all in all, a pretty likeable injust tyrant, 'cause, you know, I'm not sayin' but...facts are facts...you see, He chose me. Not that it has anything to do with wretched me...but still. Yeah. Yeah." By the way, I'm afraid the expression "sound doctrine" (as a non-native English speaker, if that's a factor) may have forever been compromised for me; can't read those words other way than through Justin Peter's voice 😑. Besides. If I were sooo chosen, maybe I could have a claim at having been more illuminated than the pseudo-Christians...right? I'm not sayin'...just sayin'.
@Szilard Fineas Covasa We who are Reformed preach the gospel to every creature, because Jesus commands us to preach it to every creature, and because we love Him, we obey Him. God doesn't tell us who is elect, and who is not. We preach to everyone, trusting in the power of the gospel as used by the Holy Spirit to bring the elect to faith in Christ. Have a nice day.
@@redmane_0725 So you do something that technically doesn't need to be done, other than because Christ asked you to do something (...that technically doesn't need to be done) since those predestined to be saved do not depend on anyone but God, Whom never fails to execute His perfect plan, regardless of any circumstance. This sounds as awkward as a running sentence. This also makes me question even more the so-called "high view" of Christ the Calvinists hold. God is no longer just tyrranical, but a cosmic time-waster, if not a prankster; more like Allah, than the God of the Bible. Proclaiming the Gospel is not only unnecessary, but a powerless, mere act of obedience. Paradoxically, the Good News benefits only the proclaimer exclusively, as a dead act of obedience, instead of bringing life to the one that hears it. Why even call an Old Testament-like ritual "Good News" to begin with, if it has no power / effect? (Your answer suggests it does, though...) Sorry, while I honestly aporeciate your attempt at answering (unlike others moving from splitting hairs into splitting atoms), your reasoning makes no sense. Moreover, you don't do anything because you love Him, but because you were predestined to be saved, hence acting in a manner becoming of someone saved. (Which is, apparently, doing something that doesn't need to be done.) If he predestined you to love Him, I'd like to understand since when there's compulsion in love - and whether in our imperfect representation of earthly love we can ever see it exercised on top of compulsion. Again: the amount of mental gymnastics necessary to accomodate these lens should tell you something about the validity of your reading of the Word.
I'm still open to hear @The Master's Call take on this. I will make an exception, and take the risk to interact with him again. Here's his chance to actually contribute something original, and not what MacArthur and the gang spoonfed him. Make no mistake: he DID read this comment. He is refreshing constantly. He is part of those that have a near-OCD drive to be right. He could put it to better use, and I am graciously offering him the opportunity to do so here.
It's not a problem listening to all the names Brian mentioned, for a Christian rooted in the Word. It is a problem when one does not know the Word, and can't throw away that which is not Biblical.
You are not mistaken. That is what the words mean but that is not what a Calvinist means when they say it. They have their own definition for otherwise normal Christian words and phrases. To them Total Depravity which is also known by its more accurate term Total Inability actually means that people are dead in sins and are unable to believe the Gospel or respond positively to God in any way no matter how many times they hear it or our influenced by Christians around them. However, that all changes if they were chosen by God from the beginning of time to be saved. Then at some decreed by God moment of their life they are born again and given the ability to believe the Gospel and they believe it no matter what if they were chosen by God. All others not chosen by God are passed over and God keeps them in that state of Total Depravity their whole life so they will go to hell for eternity because God does not want to save them. All of this Calvinism is garbage philosophy though, not Scripture.
@@faithonfireministries in that case, they’re definition defeats the whole gospel. Doesn’t give hope to someone who already may be hopeless. And I would hate to tell that to someone’s who unfortunately suicidal cause then they’ll see life as no point in living if God is already going to send them to hell from the beginning. Calvinism running the danger of creating a false God. They created a God that goes against the God of the Bible that wants no one to perish. I’m am kind of concerned of how much John Calvin is still relevant.
I also think that calvinism is a false teaching and misrepresentation of the gospel of grace. That being said, I think to call John MacArthur, Paul washer and John Piper wolves is a little extreme After they believe Jesus as their savior Don't you think?
I think they have a different Jesus that their phony religious cult has redefined that doesn't match that of the Lord Jesus Christ in the Bible. They redefine who Jesus is, who He loves, and who He came to save. Those are rather important concepts to the true Gospel, don't you think?
"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." Hmmm so God draws us to Jesus...God, draws us. "7What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8as it is written, r“God gave them a spirit of stupor, seyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”" Hmmm so God...blinds them. HE holds them back. John 11 "40 r“He has blinded their eyes and shardened their heart, lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them.”" Hmmm
At 7:00 when you're talking about babies dying and going to hell--- SEE BELOW! So many people miss this entirely! It is not taught in churches or seminaries! We are not born spiritually dead but alive, and we only die spiritually when we become aware of the law and intentionally sin against God! We are born with inherited sin nature (flesh/mind/soul), but we are not born spiritually dead!!!! I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin came to life, and I died; and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me, and through it, killed me. Romans 7:9-11 NASB2020
We don't know everything. I have more questions than answers: Why did God order the death of children and babies? 1 Samuel 15:3 ESV: Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” Why would Paul bother differentiating between Holy children and unclean children if it was not possible for children to be unholy? 1 Cor 7:14 ESV: "........ Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy."
@@shadowmist1246 Context is important and you completely disregarded that by citing both of those verses totally out of context. Was that to be intentionally deceptive or just out of ignorance? Just read what is before and after them (or the whole chapter) and if you still don't understand then research the parts you don't understand. If you're born again and have the Holy Spirit, He interprets things which must be spiritually discerned for you which then begs the question--are you saved and born again and just in deception, do you just not know your Shepherd's voice--been trained to disregard the Holy Spirit in favor of religion, or are you unsaved and need to humble yourself before the Lord and accept His grace? In 1 Samuel, God is commanding the Israelites to destroy the Amalekites for two reasons 1.) because they are descendants of the Nephilim/giants with DNA corrupted by fallen angel DNA. So they do not have human spirits--they have demonic spirits and cannot enter heaven ever. When they die, their spirits become disembodied seeking new hosts, i.e. demons, unclean spirits, spirits of infirmity, etc. 2.) It was a judgement against Amalek for their actions against the Israelites-- contextually as 3 related but district parts--as a city, it's people, and as a rouge angelic being--(a watcher--the angels who did not keep their place who is ruling over them as a false god). So to destroy them utterly was necessary to rid the earth of their scourge and Saul refused to do so and brought judgement upon himself because of it. 1 Corinthians 7:14 It's saying if you raise your kids right and in the faith they ought to believe, but if they don't then let them go because they are not enslaved and have a choice, and they may still come to Christ eventually.
@@tannerfrancisco8759 If you read the comment to which you are responding "half cocked" to, you should take notice that I have only (humbly) quoted a couple of verses and I have not provided any interpretation for you to get riled up about.
This video from another channel goes through every instance in which elect, election, chose and chosen is found in the Bible. ua-cam.com/video/9CBfPjjVnzE/v-deo.html&t
@Faith On Fire someone is elect or chosen for service, whether is past, present, or future service is irrelevant. Since God declared the end from the beginning, he operates that declaration in time. You have already agreed in a previous question that God knows all events that will happen in time before these events occur. Since God knows who will be saved before they are born, when did their free will exist?
@@Joe881 Strange questions but as a comment reader, I'll bite. The answer to your 1st question is only God knows and the answer to your 2nd question is God is omnicient and 100% accuracy would obviously be implied. I'm not sure how this would help with your calvinistic lens.
Yes, I like the Jew and Greek channel but I don't agree with everything he says, nor does he agree with everything I say. We agree on the Gospel and on many issues but not all. I definitely agree with his take on Calvinism and the lack of discernment coming from the Calvinist discernment channels. However, I can't think of any other channel like his that I watch. I think that is the only charismatic channel. However, I don't have any problem with main stream Charismatics. Hyper-Charismatics and the ultra rich televangelists and so-called faith healers? Yes, I have a problem with most of them.
They use the scripture in Romans 9 that talks about Jacob and issue and how he hardened pharaoh's heart for his glory. I've only just heard about Calvinism like 2 weeks ago from one of my friends who is a calvand they make it seem like it's Very true and they have lots of scripture to back it up . I'm not saying that I believe what they believe. But I am curious what your opinion is about Y God rejected one and not the other?
Sure, great question. First, the Bible uses certain words that mean something different today than they did in Greek 2000 years ago. Romans 9: 13 pretty much says God loved Jacob and hated Esau before they were even born. As you pointed out, it appears God has rejected Esau but that is not the case. In Luke 14: 26 Jesus said you can't be his disciple if you don't hate your mother, father, wife, children and even yourself. Jesus said elsewhere the greatest commandments are to love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind and to love one another. Did Jesus contradict himself, love others or hate others? No. It is the use of the word hate and what that meant back then. Jesus was saying you must choose Him first as a higher priority than all other people including yourself to be a disciple. Remember, discipleship is what he is talking about, not about initial salvation which is not of works but of faith in Jesus Christ, his death, burial and resurrection. Discipleship and sanctification occur after one is already a born again believer. So, back to Romans 9: 13. God chose Jacob first over Esau is not a reference not to them individually but to the nation that would come from them. Jacob had 12 sons who became the 12 tribes of Israel, and Esau was whom the nation of Edom came from. Jacob means Israel and Esau means Edom in Romans 9. Hate is a strong word, but this statement is actually saying that Israel is chosen by God to bless Edom, and all nations. Edom is a reference to Gentiles (all nations outside of Israel). The Bible sometime simply refers to everyone in the world outside of the Jews as Greek. That is why we often read in the Bible the phrase Jew and Greek (Israel and everybody else). Before we get to Jacob, we have God choosing Abraham who was promised by God to be the father of a big nation (Israel) through his heirs. Hence the term, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In Genesis, there are several passages that clearly state God is not choosing Abraham and therefore rejecting all other nations. In fact, God is choosing Abraham so that the coming nation of Israel would be a blessing to all nations (who appear to have been rejected). Genesis 12: 3 and Genesis 22: 18 are two examples of this. One verse says through Abraham all people will be blessed, and the other says all nations will be blessed. The promise of the Messiah coming was prophesied to come through the nation of Israel (Jacob). Jesus came and is the redeemer and Savior of the whole world, every single person that trusts in Him by faith receives the gift of grace (Ephesians 2: 8,9). The Gospel is given (1 Corinthians 15: 3,4) and Jesus gives us the Great Commission to preach it to all nations everywhere and to make disciples everywhere. The good news of the Gospel is for all people everywhere and is a blessing (salvation is the best blessing ever). This is what was meant in Genesis that through Abraham, all people and all nations will be blessed. So, rejection was not rejection, but God's plan for a blessing. God loved Jacob and hated Esau sounds harsh, but when put in proper context to our Savior Jesus Christ, which Calvinists never do correctly, then we see it is a beautiful promise and a blessing to everyone. Then the text flows over to Romans 10 and we read how Paul reiterates the simple Gospel that saves in Romans 10: 9,10 and then several times he repeats that the Gospel is for whosoever believes, not just some special elect people.
@@faithonfireministries Wow thank you so much. That was a really wonderful explanation. I am a pretty new believer and I'm just learning to read The Bible and search The Bible. So it's kind of easy to get confused on these things because someone presents it to you a certain way
@@amymalcomesius5511 it is easy to get confused because there is an enemy of Christ, namely the devil... anyone who preaches calvinism, RUN AWAY FROM THEM!!!
Calvinists can't even agree on Calvinism. When I represent what Calvinism is I am referring to what the leading, most influential voices of Calvinism teach and their current statements of faith and historical confessions of faith and writings of Calvin they affirm, not what every Tom Dick and Harry happens to think about it that attends a Calvinist church.
@@CC-ii3ij Actually the word “eklektos” is an adjective. It refers to God’s elect. The one that God choses, not those who have chosen themselves. It means to pick out, chosen to obtain salvation through Christ. Who does the choosing and picking? It’s God! The noun “ekloge” is election or chosen is very similar and is still a 100% act of God. An act of picking out, choosing of the act of God’s free will by which before the foundation of the world. Also, the decree made from choice by which he determined to bless certain persons through Christ by grace alone. a thing or person chosen of persons: God's elect. This certainly looks like He is speaking to individuals. While the scripture is speaking to a collective group of Christians, they are made up of individuals. We were also saved for a purpose. God has ordained us to walk in good works. The verb “chose” you are correct is “eklegomai” is used in the Bible as chose, choose out, or make choice. It’s used to refer to God’s choice of Israel (for no reason of their own but God’s choice mind you) and its used for Christians. Here is the outline of Biblical usage. //of God the Father choosing Christians, as those whom he set apart from the irreligious multitude as dear unto himself, and whom he has rendered, through faith in Christ, citizens in the Messianic kingdom: (James 2:5) so that the ground of the choice lies in Christ and his merits only// Copied from the Blue letter Bible. The ground of the choice lies in Christ and His merits only! Not on a person asking Jesus into their heart or accepting Jesus (which are all unbiblical).
@C C I simply copied the biblical outline usage in Blue Letter Bible. Are you saying the BLB is a Calvinist interpretation? It's actually the historical definition that synergist like to ignore.
@C C is Blue Letter Bible a Calvinist tool and filled with "rat posion"? G1586 - eklegomai G1586 G1587 ›› ‹‹ G1585 ἐκλέγομαιTransliteration: eklegomaiPronunciation: ek-leg'-om-aheePart of Speech: verbRoot Word (Etymology): Middle voice from ἐκ (G1537) and λέγω (G3004) (in its primary sense)TDNT Reference: 4:144,505Outline of Biblical Usage: to pick out, choose, to pick or choose out for one's self choosing one out of many, i.e. Jesus choosing his disciples choosing one for an office of God choosing whom he judged fit to receive his favours and separated from the rest of mankind to be peculiarly his own and to be attended continually by his gracious oversight i.e. the Israelites of God the Father choosing Christians, as those whom he set apart from the irreligious multitude as dear unto himself, and whom he has rendered, through faith in Christ, citizens in the Messianic kingdom: (James 2:5) so that the ground of the choice lies in Christ and his merits only
Your keeping me up late here in London uk. I go to a Presbyterian church and I might be the only one who dosent believe or if I'm honest wouldn't want to believe in that.
IS the WEF a modernized version of Calvinism?! (anti-God, with a belief structure of it's own making)! Would love to hear your thoughts on the CONNECTION between Calvinism and Klaus Schwab's WEF! It just occurred to me that strangely enough both hailed from Geneva. Both Calvin and Klaus Schwab moved to Geneva where they developed their rather un-godly theories with dramatic world-wide impact. I love Geneva as a city so not saying anything about the place. But there appears a connection between Calvin's ideas and Klaus Schwab's WEF ideologies. It is interesting that Klaus Schwab (though German) has long resided in Geneva where he developed his ultimate world CONTROL plan via the World Economic Forum. He has drawn world leaders (King Charles UK among them) and wields tremendous world -wide power (he is a great admirer of the CCP in China and envisions a similar control here in the West) though he has never been elected in any country! From their annual meeting in Davos they plan a 'City of God' which was Calvin's idea as well! (following Augustus CALVIN also wanted to mold Geneva into a CITY OF GOD with total control over all). Both Calvinism and WEF envision a City of God of their own making, a modern version of the tower of Babel. They already indicated that any 'UNBELIEVERS' in THEIR Man-Made Utopia (which is a nightmarish dystopia really!) will be cut off (from supplies, from being able to buy and sell and put to death at least virtually at first.) Very End Times Scenario!
@@redmane_0725 LOL! I pointed out the parallels and expressed an opinion based on the parallels. What evidence are you spewing about? You have zero academic credentials. I published in the academic field for years, wrote my doctorate, presented my written work and countless papers at academic conferences. You have no clue as to what does and what does not require so-called 'evidence'! LOL! Best of luck to you.
@Dr. Silvia Kratzer Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. Since you offer nothing in support of the supposed 'paralells', your opinion has as no more force of persuasion than anyone else's. Have a nice day.
@Dean A. She appealed to her own academic credentials and experience in a effort to give added weight to her opinion, a clear example of the fallacy. Have a nice day.
To claim that these preachers have said that “God hates people who are not the elect” is a lie and I understand your trying to make a case, but don’t be dishonest about what they have said.
You are wrong. They do teach that but usually not directly and plainly as that. Indirectly, that is clearly their message. All non-elect are those that God determined shall have no ability to believe the Gospel, not by their own will, but by God's will and that results in God determined them to go to hell without any possible hope of salvation offered to them, as God does to those He loves. That is a lie though, but Calvinists will say the non-elect are "vessels of wrath" and are "fitted for destruction" and "vessels of dishonor" all by God's sovereign decree. Are you suggesting those phrases Calvinist take out of context from the Bible are ways that God expresses His loves towards those whom by His will He is sending to hell, devoid of access to the same Grace of God you think you have been offered by God? Get over yourself! You are deceived by Calvinism which is a cult and cult members lie for the cult. They never admit they are in a cult. They always claim they have the best most enlightened way, smarter than all the others. They always have their own special belief system they follow separate from Scripture. They all lie and say Scripture is their authority and that the Bible perfectly supports their belief system (WCOF or LBCOF for Calvinists) but that is demonstrably not true. But that is the claim so they can secretly teach their man-made system and say it is Biblical and keep their members drinking the Kool-Aid.
It amazes me that so many people hate John Calvin or Calvinist. The argument you and others have is against God's word and not John Calvin. You can't discuss scripture but have to have the scapegoat of Calvin to make your message acceptable to the majority. Jesus said there will be Few that find it. Drinking of the water of life is Not a scripture of salvation but is speaking to The Elect. "All Men" are of every kindred, tongue, tribe and nation i.e. every kind of man, not every individual. Synecdoche definition - a part represents the whole. This is how we use language today as did the Jews. "Whosoever" is not in the Greek language. The Greek word is Pas - meaning the believing all. Verse 14 of John 3 says that those who looked upon the brazen serpent - Lived!!! Jesus had just discussed with Nicodemus that a man has to be Born of the Spirit to see the kingdom of heaven. In chapter 1 verse 13 John says that we are not born of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. There is No Free Will!!! Man is Dead in trespasses and sin and has to be Quickened by God, not by his Free Will. Jesus reveals himself to whom he wills. No man can come unless the Father draws him though the Holy Spirit to have Faith (which is God's Gift, not of yourself or Free Will, lest any man should boast). This is the condemnation, that light has come into the world and men loved darkness more than light. God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness has to shine His light into the darkened heart of men to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Lamb Slain before the foundation of the world and He came to redeem those whose names were already in the Lambs Book of Life before the world began. They are His Sheep/The Elect. And through the written word of scripture and the foolishness of preaching they will Hear His Voice and come, in due season. Your message is popular to the masses because it is Another Gospel, but The Sheep will not hear it.
Were you determined to be amazed or was this a response of your will/being ? Repeating cult talking points coalesced with Bible verses is not too sound, maybe attune your being to the true Masters call. Your choice.
@@themasterscall2426 God IS love. Whosoever will, For God so loved the world ……, Son of hell, you still have time to turn from your deception. You can do this if you’re willing, Jesus will help you , TMC.
"What is Man that YOU are Mindful of him?" (Psalms 8:4) and "O LORD, what is man, that You regard him, the son of man that You think of him?" Ps 144:3. The Enemy wants God to disregard fallen mankind. The Enemy could not prevail with his accusations of man as NOTHING to God. GOD IS MINDFUL of mankind despite our fallen state. SO INSTEAD, the Enemy tried to at least put the majority under God's curse, that is the supposed unelected and not predestined of Calvinism. So instead of God of : "What is Man that YOU are Mindful of him?" it becomes a very subtly perversion of Scriptures into: What is Man that YOU are mindful of SOME OF MEN?. The Devil knows how to recite Scriptures and twist it into it's opposite.
"All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, He is pleased, in His appointed and accepted time, effectually to call, by His Word and Spirit, out of that state of sin and death in which they are by nature, to grace and salvation by Jesus Christ: enlightening their minds, spiritually and savingly, to understand the things of God, taking away their heart of stone, and giving unto them an heart of flesh; renewing their wills, and by His almighty power determining them to that which is good; and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ; yet so as they come most freely, being made willing by His grace." Westminster Confession, Chapter 10, Paragraph 1. Read the entire thing, not just the part you want to mischaracterize, and call a 'divine download'. The call comes "by His Word and Spirit," the operative phrase, which results in everything which follows it. This is now the second time in just a few days I have endeavored to correct you on this point. Why do you continue to perpetrate this falsehood? If you are going to argue against something, you should have enough integrity to represent it accurately, rather than setting up a strawman to light on fire.
14:20 "They have no ability to respond positively to the Gospel because God has kept them that way." But how can you deny that there have been countless individuals throughout history who never even heard the Gospel? So if you accept that so many people have never heard the Gospel, and died in their sins, and those are people that God created and He allowed them to live in a place and time where they never had the chance to hear the Gospel, then it seems to me that God did in fact keep them that way. If you cannot address this, Brian, then I think your whole argument has no foundation.
I don't need to address it in this video because you are on a different topic completely. However, rest assured the Bible has the answers and it always comes back to Jesus Christ as God and Savior. I hope you are not suggesting that those who lived and died before Christ or lived in another part of the world where the Gospel had not yet reached ALL have died in their sins. That is not true. God is our Savior. Jesus is God as co-equal person of the Godhead. Therefore, Jesus created everything and everyone. He has always been the redeemer and Savior. Romans 1: 20 says, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
@@faithonfireministries Are you saying that there is more than one way to heaven? If so, I absolutely disagree. I firmly believe with all my heart that the only way to heaven, since Christ's resurrection, is to make Him complete Lord of our lives, accept that He is the Son of God, and that He died for the forgiveness of our sins. So, as to your question, "I hope you are not suggesting that those who lived and died before Christ or lived in another part of the world where the Gospel had not yet reached ALL have died in their sins.", Yes, I am suggesting that, at least those who have lived after Christ's resurrection in someplace where the Gospel never reached them. Romans 10:13 - 15: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! I firmly believe those verses and firmly believe it means what it says, that it takes someone to be sent to preach to those individuals for them to be saved. Without hearing the Word of God, just looking around the earth and up to the sky, and thinking a God created that, and that we should strive to be good is not enough. If so, one could say that many Muslims are saved. Or even many Hindus, or any number of other religions that believe that a god created the universe and that they should live a good moral life. But none of them are indwelled by the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit, they do not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Yep, I agree with you on all those passages. Therefore I am thinking you agree with me that the Calvinist's explanation of how one is saved is unbiblical. They believe the preaching of the Gospel is irrelevant to a "Totally Depraved" person because they say he has no ability to respond to the Gospel unless God has chosen him as part of the Elect, and then regardless of whether he hears it or not at some decreed moment in an Elect person's life he is given "saving faith" which is the Holy Spirit regenerating him though he was an unbeliever and then supernaturally giving him belief in Christ. Do you believe this as Calvinists do or not? Or do you believe a person has the ability to hear the Gospel and believe it, and they receive grace through faith, so Total Depravity is not true at all? As for muslims and Hindus you mentioned, they believe in false gods. Of course they are not saved. They have rejected the one true living God. We were talking about people who have never heard the Gospel, and the question is does God have another way of reaching them with the knowledge of Christ through the Holy Spirit whose work in the world of unbelievers is to convict the world of its sin of unbelief? Perhaps that is done through the Creation at times per Romans 1: 20. Is not God merciful to provide a way for all since Scripture says God does not wish that any man should perish? Given that, I am wondering how you interpret Romans 1: 20? Also, how would you interpret the mercy and grace of God as written by Paul in 1 Tim 1: 12,13? God found him to be "faithful" so God put him into ministry though he was a sinner but only in ignorance who had not known or believed in Christ. How could he have been "faithful" before knowing Christ after the resurrection?
Well said my friend, but you must recognize that God has given everyone the light of Creation as well as an inward witness the light of consciousness to know that there is a God so that men are without excuse -Romans 1:19 (NASB95): because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.Romans 1:20 (NASB95): For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. All men everywhere can look at this world and know that there is a Great designer a Creator God. Again Paul further adds to the moral witness we have within ourselves -Romans 2:12 (NASB95): For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law;Romans 2:14 (NASB95): For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves,Romans 2:15 (NASB95): in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them,Romans 2:16 (NASB95): on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. So God has given everyone the light of Creation and the light of consciousness a inward witness so that we may reach out to Him-Acts 17:26 (NASB95): and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,Acts 17:27 (NASB95): that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. The God of the Bible has given every man the same witness and opportunity to know him no matter their location through the light of Creation and the light of consciousness. However the God of the Calvinist is not so loving and does not provide the opportunity for all men to be saved, because unlike the God of the Bible who desires ALL MEN TO BE SAVED as scripture says, the Calvinist God only wants some men to be saved, but no where in scripture do we find that written do we?
Everyone has heard the phrase "famous last words". With that being said, why is it that the 4 gospel writers don't agree on the last words of Jesus. If they were witnesses in a court of law, their testimony would be thrown out. Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit.” And having said thus, He gave up the ghost." John 19:30 " When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." So what were the last words of Jesus? What Luke said or what John said? Matthew 27;46 “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Eli Eli is Hebrew and means "my God my God" and Christians always make a reference to Psalm 22 where it says באֵלִ֣י אֵ֖לִי לָמָ֣ה עֲזַבְתָּ֑נִי רָח֥וֹק מִ֜ישֽׁוּעָתִ֗י דִּבְרֵ֥י שַֽׁאֲגָתִֽי: That word "sabachtani" does not exist in this verse as it does in the New Testament. "sabachtani" replaced AZAVTANI. It's mistranslated. Lama lama means "why why have you entrapped me" not forsaken me. Azavtani means entrapped me Mark 15:34 "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”. So Mark quotes Jesus as saying it in Aramaic not Hebrew. Since Mark was the first writing, he was the one more correct than Matthew. So all 4 gospel writers say something different for the last words of Jesus. The gospel writers all disagree with each other, contradict each other. Abandoning someone and entrapping someone are 2 different things.
How are any of those verses a "contradiction"? Some Gospel writings include very specific information, others more general and others in between. When you put them all together you get a clearer picture of what occurred. If each gospel was written "exactly" like the other, some may accuse the writers of "Collusion". As for you latter point, Jesus "revised" or "clarified" several Old Testament writings that were under the OLD Covenant. For instance in Luke 4:8 Jesus even says, "It is WRITTEN: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’” But the actual verse in Deuteronomy 6:13 uses the word "Fear" instead of "Worship". These are not "contradictions". They're "clarifications" in light of the NEW COVENANT vs the OLD COVENANT. God's Word isn't just "ink on paper", it's Spiritual. And without the Holy Spirit or direct revelation from God you'll not be able to properly understand it.
@@rcpainter3023 Four different testimonies from four eyewitnesses would be thrown out in a court of law. It isn't credible. You will deny the truth in your deathbed. There's a reason Zechariah wrote in 8:23 "So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." We had it right all along. Some day you'll know.
ahaaa... i think i got it finally i knew about election but do they really think that god om purpose also have people chosen for hell?.. all non elect, are chosen by god to perish?... i thought it is just the people who come to believe who are elect, and god want all ti become elect and non to perish.. now i know from the bible, that god want no one to perish, so if calvinists think god want all non elect chosen people to perish. then i finally know what u try to say all the time i watch your calvinist videos thank you
When born, we are all born into sin, and the wages of sin is death, so God didn't need to choose Hell for anybody, we were born into it. What t else did He have to save anyone from other than our sin? So God is still just to save some and not everyone. He would still remain Holy.
Does not the potter have power over the clay, does he not have the right to have one for fine dining and one for common use. A supernatural transformation, a new creature the Bible says. When Jesus finds you, your understanding grows. If your feeling offended or have lack of understanding about these deep truths that can only be taught and interpreted by the Holy Spirit, keep praying, keep seeking. The key is obedience. Total submission to the Most High. Ask yourself. Are prayers being answered. Are you having personal victory in your life? What of your fruit? If your living in sin this could be reason for your lack of understanding as well. And you may not be saved. Sanctification is necessary. We as Christian’s have many denominations. Finding the one for you is between you and the Holy Spirit. Many different beliefs To each has been dealt a measure of faith. The gospel they preach is biblical it’s just not the understanding you prefer my brother. I don’t agree with everything John and voddie say, but they do love the Lord that’s for sure. Let’s make disciples and unify not divide the church.
God is all powerful and He does not want anyone to perish and that is why Jesus Christ lowered himself to become one of His own creation to show us God in the flesh and become a substitutionary sacrifice for our sins, redeeming the World and being the Savior to all (whosoever) who will believe in Him and trust fully in Him 100% for their salvation. Calvinist trust in being of the Elect for their salvation, and belief in Christ is secondary which is why Calvinist teach Total Depravity and that regeneration precedes faith which is backwards according to Scripture. And in all due respect, my videos against Calvinism is not divisive, but a response to how divisive Calvinists are and the damage they are doing to the Body of Christ with their false teachings. It is standing for the truth of the Gospel and on sound doctrine against doctrines of devils. Calvinists have infiltrated otherwise good Bible schools and seminaries with their gnostic philosophies. They have infiltrated Bible believing churches built by solid Christians many decades ago and try to convert them to Calvinism. They get hired after hiding their actual reformed/Calvinist beliefs only to cause church splits once they finally gain enough influence and credibility several years later and begin revealing their false doctrines slowly, changing the sound doctrines the church once held for so long. They then excommunicate the members who argue against the doctrinal changes. There is one truth, and one True Gospel only, not different and acceptable versions of it. Also the prayers that God has answered in my life would not have been answered in the life of a Calvinst Cessationist because they wouldn't even have bothered to pray and receive what I have received and that is due to their Cessationism and consistent teachings that prove they are repulsed by the work of the Holy Spirit in believer's lives. They often try to demonize anyone who experiences a real miraculous answered prayer. While I was never a Calvinist, there are many great testimonies from Christians who speak out against the religious elitism and false teachings of Calvinism they were once well entrenched into, only to be saved out of it.
@@faithonfireministries your attacking their understanding. Their doctrine is accurate, it’s understanding that’s in question. I’ve been extremely blessed my friend to be able to go into any CHRISTIAN church, and fellowship and rejoice in the body. No perfect church. Amen. Each having the love and respect for our king all showing it different ways. For the Lord knows our hearts. Chapter 14 kjv Roman’s. Review this chapter carefully. Meditate on it for a day, and then listen to His voice. Your have great zeal my brother. Again let’s make disciples and remember we are one body. Thank you for your point of view and spiritual insight into how it may make others feel. This is troubling, but in love. Bless you in the name of Yeshua. Amen
Let me ask you this easy question... Who in the Bible desires to deceive as many people as possible from the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Who in the Bible wants people to go to hell?
Wow… it is disconcerting that so many people in these comments are saying that their understanding of Gnosticism is being improved by your videos… because it is very clear that you have done almost zero reading in church history at all if you want to argue for a connection between Gnosticism and Calvinism.
You are hardly an unbiased source of criticism since you are a defender of Calvinism who is constantly disagreeing with me and anybody else here who points out that Calvinism is evil and a dangerous infiltration of Christianity. Give it up! You belong to a cult.
@@faithonfireministries It doesn’t matter what you may think of me, Brian, but it is a verifiable *fact* that you haven’t read any church history. Comparing Gnosticism with Calvinism is proof of that, so much so that even non-Christian historians would laugh your conclusions out of the room. But don’t take my word for it; go pick up a book and do some reading. Do yourself a favor and actually *learn* something about the topic you are discussing.
@@CmRoddy Thanks for confirming for everyone how you make stuff up to defend the indefensible. You don't know what I have read, what I have studied, etc but you claim to know. How interesting. Are you a psychic now? Everybody knows you are just blatantly lying to defend Calvinism. Historians agree with me! Deal with it.
@@CmRoddy I have made it abundantly clear that Calvinism is Gnosticism merged with the Bible. That is true. No way around it. I did an entire video explaining it and have touched on that topic other times in other videos that I know you watched because you commented on those too. I'm not doing videos about what original Gnostics believed or practiced. So, if you want to argue over what Gnostics believed and say that is separate from Christianity, feel free, I would agree with you but that is a different argument. Then go read the Westminster Confession of Faith Chapter X, paragraph i and that is a clear representation of how Gnosticism infiltrated Christianity merging two thoughts and changed the good news of the Gospel, redefined and diminished the Trinity and the good news of the Gospel into an untrue gnostic gospel of election.
Anyone who does not understand Calvinism does not understand it because God has decreed they not understand. This is true even for believers who do not understand. When they stand before God, they will have no excuse because no one can defy God’s decree, and not be held to account, whether or not they can help themselves. So a believer who does not hold to Calvinism can both rejoice and dread. He can rejoice because he is carrying out God’s sovereign decree he was destined to fulfill , while at the same time dread that he holds this wrong view of God.
Backdrop: I happen to reject Calvinism as false doctrine - that anyone teaching distinctively Calvinistic doctrine is as dead to genuine service to the Lord as a JW or Mormon, and that I am more compassionate than the Calvinistic caricature of God (not boasting, just doing really basic math.) But it's not my intent to debate it here. An interesting observation (at least to me) is that, based on this rejection of what is considered by Calvinists to be God's truth, I apparently am still not considered the natural man (an unsaved person according to the Calvinist) in 2 Corinthians 2:14. Are not the "doctrines of grace" included in the "things of God" in that verse? I know full well how the verse is touted as a Total Depravity proof text - the assertion that without the gift of faith from above the lost person cannot believe the gospel. It seems that what constitutes the "things of God" in 2 Corinthians 2:14 may be cherry-picked. Then again, if my self-description strikes a Calvinist as an unsaved person, OK - no validation sought when I engage with one.
Ershwyn Thibou - how to be saved??? Did you know that Heaven is a free gift from God? Billions of people go to bed every night wondering if they have been “good enough” to go to heaven. There is no need to live in fear and doubt. Jesus taught that you can “know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” There are many passages in the Bible that teach the truth about Heaven being a free gift from God because of what Jesus did for us on the cross, not by our own good works. One of the most clear and important passages is from the Apostle Paul’s letter to the Ephesians: Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” Most people think that Heaven is a riddle which can never be solved. This is not true! The Bible is very clear about how you get to Heaven, and how it comes by faith in Jesus Christ, not by trusting in our own good works. We are living in the dispensation of the grace of God, by believing and trusting the gospel of salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) given to our Apostle Paul by Jesus Christ you are saved and sealed with the holy Spirit of promise till the day of redemption!!! Ephesians 1:13 - King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Romans 2:16 - King James Version 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. (Paul's Gospel - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4). For solid Bible study, please visit ''Truth Time Radio'' - also on youtube - learn the truth and unlearn the lies!
"When God created men to be unable to accept the Gospel, they will have no way to justify before Him for having not accepted the Gospel." If only you ended that with a "trollface" smiley, it would've been perfection. Thank you for doing God's work, discrediting Calvisims vigorously. You guys sound like every well-read Muslim and don't even have an idea.
I had a whole multi paragraph, rather funny, if I must say so myself, comment written out. I deleted it. This video was just plain silly. You've gotta move on. We know you can't understand the Bible. We get it. Next subject, please.
Preach it brother! 100% truth!! Calvinism is ANOTHER GOSPEL!ANATHEMA!!!
@@paulpowell6418 He didn't say that.
On contrary, he repeatedly said that he believes merely being a Calvinist does not make one lose salvation; but being a teacher propagating this false doctrine...well, that could be problematic.
You believe your salvation is in Christ, that should be good enough for it to take place.
@@paulpowell6418 A man that holds a man's words in higher regards than the Bible.
What is a lightbulb?
@@paulpowell6418 Now now Paul, this is anything but an honest question 🙂. You're not such a good act, Paul, nor are you that dense.
Allow me to sidetrack as well and tell you another strategy of a Calvinist: employing the same strategy you are trying to pull here. You know it, and I don't have to type it for you. Sorry, I won't entertain your shtick - as a mainstayer in Brian's videos comments (me), you are free to check them and form an educated opinion on my ignorance or lack thereof. "Groundhog Day" was an entertaining little movie, but that's about it. You guys respawn after every comment I post with the same questions and think you come up with something new.
You don't.
@@paulpowell6418 Yes, you follow a
man's demon-inspired, perverted interpretation of the Gospel. You won't agree with my statement, and that's fine: none of us will change the other's opinion.
I cut through all the fluff and went for the jugular - metaphorically speaking (this will be relevant later): I am not "hating" or disparaging you. Sorry, no safe spaces here.
That does not mean you don't have "enough truth" (regarding the basis of your salvation) so that I can hug you in Heaven while you will acknowledge the errors of your ways (hopefully, not having blood on your hands) 🙂 (forgive my flesh showing here). The fact you believe I am not saved (if applicable), or that I will be saved based on Christ's work on the cross (and in spite of my wonky theology) is not something that affects my eternal destiny. Maybe you "extend" this "grace" toward me, maybe not: regardless, and going back to my answer: I still think you will be saved (unless you insist not to).
As for it being gnostic? Well bro I find that true, albeit in a metaphorical way. (Again, you guys have a tendency of being blind to nuances, and take everything literally. I would be surprised for this not to be the case here.) I found this description initially surprising and fitting well enough, in the "closest thing to" way. In all practicality...it is. 🙂
After 40 years in the church and a Masters in Theology, I assure you I have an idea what Gnosticism is. I had to explore their interpretation of Paul's "Powers and Principalities" for my dissertation, so I rubbed my shoulders with them a little bit.
And that concludes our short discussion here. "Okay, thanks" in response to my original answer would've sufficed.
@@AbBowhunter Projecting much? I've seen you do that exact thing literally a dozen times in the comments of different videos. And then you throw out comments exactly like above. Make false accusations, strawman arguments, and never have anything of substance to contribute. Always just a contrarian nonargument. It's always just arrogant contradiction with no point other than to gloat you're so much smarter and more humble than all these stupid, crazy people who really believe they have a two way relationship with God. The blind hypocrisy is mind boggling.
You people ask stupid questions and then whine when you get an answer you disagree with.
To Paul's question--You want to know what a Calvinist is? It's an overly religious, carnal, false convert who was never saved and was always dead in their self righteousness and religious pride who knows nothing of faith/trust in Christ and claims psychological tricks and works of the flesh are the fruits of the Spirit, and is ultimately attempting works based salvation with a grace crudely scribbled on it in crayon, but because of cognitive dissonance (demonic strongholds) can't comprehend it and doesn't have the humility to actually see themselves as Christ does
--OR--
they are someone who had the seed of faith planted but it never grew right or blossomed as it should--they were just barely saved or nearly saved but was snatched away by the devil (seed snatched by the birds), led into deception, and the demonic doctrines which have established strongholds in their minds severely hinder their fruit for the Kingdom of Heaven, deafens them to the Holy Spirit, and leaves them deceived in their self righteousness, religious pride, and false humility. Their lives are governed by religious pride demons acting as counterfeit holy spirits leading them further and further into deception. You don't have the Holy Spirit witnessing to your spirit that you are saved, you don't have the blessed living hope of Christ, you have zero spiritual discernment or other gifts of the spirit--only works of the flesh and natural abilities of the flesh, and with no testimony of justification or spiritual revelation of grace, so it is literally impossible to confirm you're even saved or were ever at all and best case scenario you get to heaven and Christ reprimands you for all the people you led astray to damnation but shows mercy on you because you really did believe on Him that one time at camp when you were 8 and He kept His promise to save you despite your lifetime of idolatry because that is how merciful God is!
He's not the devil you worship as the false god of Calvinism--your Great Value brand of "God's sovereignty" that makes Him a pathetic dictator--He's infinitely greater and glorious and holy and we don't deserve Him but He loves us so much that He saved us because we were such pathetic creatures that He saw an opportunity to glorify Himself through His work in us and to use us to bring His Kingdom to earth and show the world Christ through us to save as many as possible.
For the love of God just believe on Him and stop working for the devil!
Calvinists have been bullies and elitist for hundreds of years. Back then they kicked out theologians from a council who didn’t agree with them.
I like the approach that this content creator takes. You don’t have to be a theologian and use big words to have the truth of the gospel and to stand against false doctrine.
I like to use the example of Jesus. Jesus was obviously the smartest man ever the live because he created all things. Yet, he related to man on their level. He talked about farming and the weather and sowing and reaping and good and bad fruit, etc. He was not an elitist like the Pharisees of his day and the theologians of our day.
Your right, Calvinism is diabolical. Those who promote that false teaching will have to give an answer at judgement day. It’s so sad they twist the words of God and the ultimate Sacrifice of Christ. Then again, all cults misrepresent Christ and twist Scriptures. Thanks for preaching the true Gospel Brian.
But, most religions don't attribute the character of Satan to God! I think they have God and Satan mixed up!
Thank you , I have a Pastor who has calvinist doctrines and what your saying about them being eletist and at times putting too much weight on their doctines to the point of gnotism rings true
Luke 9:23 deny yourself everyday pick up your cross and follow Jesus not John Calvin
Religious Elitism! You nailed it! That is exactly my experiences with these men. Got to say great work brother! You did an excellent job putting that corruption into words. Well done
Amen. Calvinism is a false and wicked doctrine. You’ve explained really well.
Colossians 2:8
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
100% accurate description of Calvinism. The only thing I didn’t believe from this description when I was a Calvinist was the baby thing. But, that’s just because it was too hard to believe. I had no biblical support. Unfortunately It’s most logical in Calvinism that some babies aren’t elect and end up damned. Disgusting. That is NOT the God if the Bible.
Your story is sad. Your "when I was a Calvinist" story is getting old. You're like a blade of grass blowing in the wind. Being influenced by everything but biblical truth.
Go watch some more Leighton videos.
@@paulpowell6418 what part was not Calvinism?
@@paulpowell6418 I don’t claim Calvinists don’t have a will. I used to believe we had corrupt wills that could never want or respond positively to God.
I don’t think Calvinism is Gnosticism. He’s just making a simple comparison in the way that gnostics believed they had special higher knowledge. Calvinists believe they have special higher knowledge. It’s just a parallel not a claim that they believe everything gnostics do.
I agree the gospel is PRESENTED biblically. The fact though is, Calvinists deliberately withhold what they believe about who the gospel/ good news is really for.
@@bucky91361 the love in this comment is so Christ like.
@@paulpowell6418 no. I think we can do right or wrong as Christians and as nonchristians.
Calvinism is very deceptive. I continue to thank you for your willingness to speak out against this heresy.
I was taught that Limited Atonement is believing God to be MORE powerful, not less, that even our faith is not possible without God giving it to us
Thank you thank you thank you I believe this to be a doctrine of demons call crazy but it's so refreshing to see somebody tell it like it is and the false teachers which are many and those who have been taught teach this false gospel and I firmly believe it is done intentionally to deceive the church crept in unaware I'm so grateful that you're taking this stand and speaking the truth about this heresy
In Calvinism the gospel isn't important. What's important is, "are you elect?" If you look at what Calvinism believes it leaves me wondering why Jesus even had to die. Calvin began with the presupposition of the philosophy of determinism and then he put that lens over Scripture and then interpreted it.
I heard a Calvinist explain that God desires to show all His attributes and thus He has the reprobate so He can show His attribute of wrath. It is a horrible set of doctrines which lead one into the state of hopelessness and despair and nihilism. They can't even pray. They pray because "we're commanded to pray." They can't pray and ask God to intervene in any situation because all situations have been predestined by God. They don't have "victory over sin" because many are told after sharing their struggle, "God is using that to keep you humble." Even though we are promised that no temptation should overtake us because God is faithful and always provides a way of escape. Nope, if they sin, they sin because even though Scripture says they don't have to give in, if they do give in it is because God wanted them to sin. Then the self-righteous ones will tell some of them who are struggling with a sin that maybe they're not saved at all.
Calvinism basically demeans the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Calvinism = Depressing...when I first learned of the doctrine of calvinism it lead me into a deep depression for a very long time...caused me to lose hope for friends and family...haven't fully recovered yet...working on it.
In John 16: 33 our Lord Jesus Christ says, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." Can you reply with your first name? I want to add you to people I pray for, and others who are reading this comment may want to pray for you as well. Thanks. God bless you!
@@faithonfireministries First name is Pat...Thank You, I appreciate your prayers.
I am going through same thing, I’ve been in this for 7-8 months
It is very painful indeed, it takes time to hope.again, but, it does come back.
amen brother
Hope this term makes others to see the true nature of this evil teaching. You are so clear in your description of this false teaching. I only wish I could have heard you 35 years ago,when I got tripped up by this devilish system. It was the darkest period of my life. But God was gracious and convinced me to stop believing those lies and trust only in the truth of His word. You are helping many and will save many from the deceitful lies they spin to trap the ignorant and unlearned.
I was trapped in calvinism for 33 years. I can relate to how you feel. Wishing you love and blessings in Jesus Christ our Lord.
Good job Brian, thank you for continuing to preach the truth about the false teachings of calvinism my friend . Calvinism does diminish the work of CHRIST'S death and resurrection and that's what I try to get across to calvinist when I encounter them in discussion . The result of the calvinist paradigm is that just as many people go to hell even if satan didn't exist which is to claim that GOD does the will of satan . Calvinism's claim that GOD created most of us to hate HIM and worship satan instead of HIM is blasphemy and there's no way around that to those of us who still have a grasp on reality . I've had many calvinist on occasion say to me so you think you know more than the giants of the faith and I tell them no , I just believe the information scripture explicitly provides whereas they didn't .
GOD bless you brother keep em coming .
Excellent points. I have heard the "giants of the faith" argument as well many times. My answer is always the same... the giants of the faith are the inspired writers of Scripture, not the uninspired writers and defenders of Calvinist philosophy.
@@faithonfireministries my sentiments exactly brother .
I was taught and hence believed that man is born depraved. But then i read Psalms 139 and changed my mind according to that scripture.
Thanks for the reminder; however bad things get, this psalm takes away all doubt.
We were born in sin, and that is enough for us to pay hell. Then, things get weird for Calvinists.
@Dean A. people notice, but Calvinists insist that David is talking about himself in order to create another prooftext for "T".
It is a deception, they speak like they are Evangelist, yet their hearts are darkened with Hersey.
"You don't understand Calvinism!" I understand enough of it to not want anything to do with it, and I understand enough of it to not wanna be a Calvinist... 😊😊😁😁😆😆
Boom!
"But you don't understand the fine nuances of wolf pack hierarchy, the biology of their entire digestive system...how can you say you'd hate to become their meal?! Preposterous, you pharisee!"
Meanwhile, reading this thread (and not only...), I am shocked at how little, usually the most obnoxious of them, understand the other side.
Some of then could have Jehovah Witnesses pull out their little notebooks and take notes in awe. Old men behaving like children and daring speak about Christlikeness.
MacArthur & sons did a "great" job to indoctrinate them.
@@szilardfineascovasa6144 In my experience, most Calvinists do not understand Calvinism. Makes sense, because Calvinism feeds on the ignorant and brainwashes them with more ignorance.
@@eiontactics9056 It's sad.
As much as I sometimes "duel" with them (probably because I am not the sharpest tool in the shed either), in the end I am sorry for them. Many (not all) have such a bitterness and judgemental spirit disguised under piety, it's mindboggling...
Calvinism is like a piece of mildew that keeps spreading, spreading and spreading. I remember 20 years ago I knew of 1 or 2 people who were Calvinist. Now, every new Christian I meet is one! Unbelievable. It has grown like a fungus. Almost every Gospel believing church is influenced by a writer who is a Calvinist.
Yes, its scary how that has grown so rapidly, but history tells us that Calvinism comes and goes in waves. We have been experiencing one of its upswings but hopefully it will die out again soon as more and more Calvinist people come to realize (and speak out) how it was just about being religious on the outside with no power and they leave it seeking truth and a real relationship with Christ our Savior and warn others. Sadly, some will just leave it and Christianity completely having a very bad taste in their mouth for anything of God, feeling foolish and betrayed by leaving men of Calvinism they had put all their trust in. I recently heard one Biblical scholar, Phil Stringer, say "Calvinism eventually destroys everything it touches" and I tend to agree with him.
I imagine that if a study were done of levels of narcissism is society there would be a correlation with levels of Calvinism. Some apologists and scholars I loved are Calvinists but I can no longer read them knowing what lies beneath (Koukl, Keller, Carson, Bignon to name but a few). Calvinism makes me feel physically uncomfortable and spiritual horrified.
I never realized how much the church I was a member of for my whole life ( I'm a70 bleep year old grandma)had such a calvinist tone about them. I had no thought in my head that we were a proud, man worshipping organization. Until I left that religion and began to read and study the Bible is when the diminishing aspects of that church was. They devalue who Christ is and preach that we all can catch up to where Jesus is if we're worthy and endure to the end. They say Jesus died for everyone except Adulterist and Murderers. Now that the Lord welcomed me into His fellowship by faith alone through grace alone in Christ blood alone I've had my eyes opened and my ears hear the true words of our Precious Lord. I praise Him daily for knocking at my door and when I opened the door He came in and dined (fed) with me. I am so blessed. I have so many family members that still believe the lie and won't let go of their pride to come to His true gospel (1 Cor 15: 1-4).
I worry somewhat that I can't do more to serve the Lord do to health issues but I hand out cards with the gospel printed on them as often as I can. God Bless you young man for exposing the lies that kill, steal and destroy souls. You've been a blessing to me. All glory to God. Thank you. 😊❤☝️🙏
Thanks so much for the encouraging words! I pray that God will strengthen you, protect you and give you peace as you boldly hand out those Gospel cards, sharing the true Gospel that so many people desperately need to know about these days. Glory to God!
Botom line is Calvinism promotes DOUBT. You just don't know if you're elected or not.
Excellent brother thanks...
Anything added to the free gospel removes the offense of the gospel.
Where do you read in the Bible that God has saved us based on knowing we would choose Him?
@@veritasteller what does that have to do with my comment?
@@joshl1984 I must've responded to a wrong tweet.
Calvinism made me ineffective for so many years. Once you become one you go on to try and convert others instead of being passionate about the Gospel. Even then you have a muddy accursed gospel with Perseverance.
@Dean A. 100% true
I love this!! You're helping me to understand the Gnostic connections better and I deeply appreciate you. Thank You Lord!
When ever i ask a Calvinist the point of sharing Jesus they ALWAYS go circular. They say since we do not know who the elect are we have to share the gospel in obedience. Well at the end of the day if you are the elect heaven is guaranteed regardless . If there are no elect then SHARE JESUS.!!!
I have found that those who understand Calvinism the best are also those who oppose Calvinism the most. Can you think of any reason why?
It comes down to what is authoritative to us, the Bible or man-made theology. We who oppose Calvinism learn our doctrines from Scripture and then evaluate theologies like Calvinism and what they teach through the lens of Scripture (2 Timothy 3: 16,17). What Calvinists do is learn doctrine from men, leading Calvinists voices, get indoctrinated and then they begin to evaluate Scripture through the lens of Calvinist theology.
I did a video not too long ago about how cult members are much the less capable of realizing the danger and errors of their beliefs than a person who has studied the cult and its beliefs but didn't join it and recognizes how wrong it is based upon Scriptural authority. It is the latter who truly understands it properly. The cult member will never accept the fact they belong to a cult and will be very defensive against such a claim but ironically, all the while they will adamantly proclaim that everyone who does not accept their distinctive unique beliefs are too stupid to realize how superior their theology and beliefs are. Or they will say they are special and chosen by God to believe their doctrines and such spiritual enlightenment has been withheld from those who reject it.
@@faithonfireministries You are aware of the Quality Control performed by the Church Fathers to prevent Scripture from being edited to conform to an agenda? The very first instance of this is St. Polycarp’s rejection of Marcion’s Bible. Another noteworthy example is that St. Irenaeus worked to exclude the Gnostic Gospels, in particular the Gospel of Judas Iscariot. You will note that Calvin was highly critical of another Church Father, St. John Chrysostom. You yourself have pointed out how Mac was involved in the editing of the ESV.
This type of editing also took place with Theodor Beza’s 1599 Geneva Study Bible (look up Crosswalk) when Revelation 22:19 was edited out. I came to a conclusion about Calvin’s two Biographers, Beza and de Bolsec. Beza, in addition to his editing of Scripture also published a book of Gay Pornography. Bolsec was a Medical Doctor who got into a spat with Calvin. I believe Bolsec.
Interesting. No, I was not aware of all that.
What Greek, Hebrew and English translation do you use?
Ironically enough it is those who persist in Calvinistic theology who end up proving they are not elect as they fall off the cliff into hell. Yeah I borrowed that imagery from Jack Chick, another Calvinist.
Amen, brother! 🙏 ❤️
Absolutely brother in Christ. Calvinism is diabolical. Undermining people's faith in Christ and the promise of eternal life to those who believe.
They did the exact same thing to Jesus and to the apostle Paul. The false teachers had convinced the Corinthians that Paul was a fake because he taught salvation by grace through faith. They even accused him of teaching that sin can bring glory to God! Isn't that what Calvinism teaches?
Amen
I am a lawyer who belongs to a non-Reformed denomination. Before applyiing to a Reformed seminary program in church and state studies, I e-mailed the presedent to ask if the school accepted non-Reformed applicants in this particular program. He responded that they accept only applicants who believe in "orthodox" Christianity. I have degrees from Baptist, public, and non-sectarian colleges. I have never run into this kind of elitism before.
That is interesting. Imagine how biased those seminary teachers are against any student who actually gets accepted and then raises any doubts about the reformed theology of Calvinism.
The god of this world has blinded ppl's eyes about principles and over 1800 years as had time to thoroughly entrench his demonic based false gospel conceits, in strategic places, in scholastic venues thus perpetrating countless parrots full of his satanic platitudes.
Sort of like what the K-12 US Gov issued "learning" from Rockefeller's inculcation indoctrination views has done and done well..
Making stupor a degree of intelligence from the masses, that DON'T realize how malformed their minds have been formed Into.
It's ALL 100% Manichaeism theology supported by the witchcraft of TULIP-West minister confession of 1639 logic.
Sheer compete blasphemy, is the perception of the religious masses in USA especially.
Telling these facts to ppl on YT is almost a complete WADTE of my time because their minds are so possessed by sorcery lies the Light of truth can hardly get thru to their soul.
That is why the prophets said FEW will be that make it into the Eternal kingdom, FEW.
Go view the vid "Augustus of HIPPO false doctrines" by cris wills.
It will clear up all points why we see the USA entire SUN day sects are WALLOWING in SIN!!
I started disliking discernment ministries for many reasons and I didn’t know what Calvinism/Cessationism was until I found yours and Jew and Greek’s channels. Calvinism/Cessationism are the two main reasons I don’t like discernment ministries anymore and those two explain why they are heresy hunters because their doctrines are legalistic. All these discernment channels come from people who follow a dangerous cult.
My friend tried to indoctrinate me with Calvinism. I new nothing of what he was preaching to me. They throw in your face the "Sovereignty of God" and then use that to condemn you and make you feel like you have no free will to choose to believe or not to believe.
I’m looking for a video you made talking about how Calvinist like to point to “Celebrity Word of preachers calling them “wolves in sheep’s clothing”. You call them wolves in wolves clothing
That is tough one. I know what you are talking about and I remember saying that. In fact I have said that more than once but I do not remember precisely which videos it was that I said that in. My best guess is that it is most likely in one of the videos I have done about Cessationism as opposed to the videos focused primarily on Calvinism. Sorry I could not help pinpoint that one. God bless you!
I was one of those people who found these teachers online. I loved Voddie, Paul washer and others, but the more I listened the more I heard things that gave me some read flags. I thank God I’m in the word everyday, I weight what they said against scripture and it was disturbing. Obviously I stopped listening to their sermons. I thank God the Holy Spirit showed me the truth, I was almost fooled by false teaching.
Beautiful testimony and one everyone can learn from. You said it, the simple truth is that when a person reads the Bible for themselves everyday inviting the Holy Spirit in to teach us truth in God's Word, this is the greatest way to defend oneself against false teachers.
I've seen first hand the dread it has caused people in my life. The worry over themselves in especially their friends and family that God doesn't love them and provided salvation for them.
Amen Amen Amen. A treacherous doctrine when diligently applied in reality .
Keep em coming Brian we are sharing your videos and getting the word out . !!
Thanks so much for the encouraging word and for sharing the message! God bless you!
I cannot understand how Calvinists can possibly read the book of John without knowing that Calvinism is plainly 100% wrong.
I agree with you. They often quote their favorite prooftext John 6: 44 while ignoring the rest of the Gospel of John, and especially not agreeing with John 12: 32. I've not once ever heard a Calvinist quote that verse or ever explain why they think it is wrong. They just pretend it does not exist, while John 6:44 is easily explained within the context of the rest of John's Gospel. This point you are making should be a clear indicator to everyone that Calvinists are loyal to their religious system of belief rather than trusting the full Word of God.
@Faith on Fire
If you were serious about finding a Reformed interpretation of John 12:32, that is easily done.
"32. If I be lifted up. Next follows the method by which the judgment shall be conducted; namely, Christ, being lifted up on the cross, shall gather all men to himself, in order that he may raise them from earth to heaven. The Evangelist says, that Christ pointed out the manner of his death; and, therefore, the meaning undoubtedly is, that the cross will be, as it were, a chariot, by which he shall raise all men, along with himself, to his Father. It might have been thought, that at that time he was carried away from the earth, so as no longer to have any interests in common with men; but he declares, that he will go in a very different manner, so as to draw upwards to himself those who were fixed on the earth. Now, though he alludes to the form of his death, yet he means generally, that his death will not be a division to separate him from men, but that it will be an additional means of drawing earth upwards towards heaven. I will draw all men to myself. The word all, which he employs, must be understood to refer to the children of God, who belong to his flock. Yet I agree with Chrysostom, who says that Christ used the universal term, all, because the Church was to be gathered equally from among Gentiles and Jews, according to that saying,
There shall be one shepherd, and one sheepfold, (John 10:16.)
The old Latin translation has, I will draw all things to me; and Augustine maintains that we ought to read it in that manner; but the agreement of all the Greek manuscripts ought to have greater weight with us."
Commentary on John's Gospel, by John Calvin.
@Bobby Michaels
As a Reformed Baptist, I hold to the position that our salvation is a monergistic work of God. But I'm also aware that if I had lived in Calvin's day, some of the things I hold as a Baptist would have put me in danger of Calvin's opposition. Also, there is no faithful minister of God alive today that I agree with 100% of the time. Example: James White, who
holds to monergistic soteriology, has declared his support for post-millennialism, but I'm a historical premillennialist.
I feel Like your teaching how to play pac man , remember that video game? That aside your right about Calvinist
Thank you for such a strong message! Shalom, dear brother!
good job well done
Spot on.
@@paulpowell6418 I think the advice to move on is pretty good. You're obviously welded on Calvinist, so why should you try to convince people of your point of view if in your religion nothing can be done to save them? A futile exercise. Leave us who believe in the great benevolence of God who desires that no one should perish to wallow in our joy and you go on in your miserable way believing in a god who desires most to go to hell. Good luck at the judgement.
@@paulpowell6418 No, that's not true. I think Brian has quite an excellent grasp of the tenets of your religion, and knows exactly how to paraphrase it without betraying its fundamental thrust. But such conscientiousness in you to "correct" sound doctrine according to the blasphemies of your belief system ought to be admired. What zeal. Spreading misery wherever you go with your accursed doctrine. Well done. I'm sure you'll be rewarded, but not as you might hope.
@@paulpowell6418 Sorry, can't see the problem. Your quibbling over semantics does you no credit. This argument is unprofitable. Move on.
@@paulpowell6418 Perhaps you don't understand the doctrine you're so punctilious to defend. I'd be careful if I were you to not falsely accuse the righteous of lying on the basis of your mangled apprehension of the things of God. Move on. I will not return to you regardless of what you might say next. It's enough.
@@paulpowell6418 nope, he's correct. Seriously, time for you to move on. Surely there's a much better way to spend your time. Your interpretation of scripture suggests that we can't believe anyways because we're not the elect, so move on and enjoy your special election.
If calvinism was true, then Jesus was the greatest deceiver in all of history.
Yes, sadly that is true and why I often say Calvinism is blasphemy.
How to be saved for sure - the gospel of our salvation in the dispensation of the grace of God (our gospel given to our Apostle Paul by Jesus Christ = 1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we make Him Lord of our life.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we repent and get baptized.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we fear God and work righteousness.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we confess our sins and ask for His forgiveness.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we receive Him as our personal savior.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we invite the Lord into our heart.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we receive the Eucharist of holy communion.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we keep the commandments and sell our possessions.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we forgive those who have trespassed against us.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we stop sinning.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we walk the isle and join the church.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we pray the sinners prayer.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we are confirmed.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we deny ourself, take up our cross and follow Him.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we observe Yom Kippur.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we endure unto the end.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we kneel at an old fashioned altar and cry a hot scalding bucket of tears.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if while listening to "Just as I am" we decide to walk the isle and give our heart to the Lord.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we pray the rosary.
The gospel is not "Christ died for our sins" if we DO ANYTHING!
Don't pervert it by adding to it.
The gospel is found in 1 Corinthians chapter 15:1-4. "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel... By which also ye are saved,... how that Christ died for our sins... he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures."
Just keep it simple. (2 Corinthians 11:3)
God says salvation is found through faith in the finished cross-work and resurrection (Ephesians 2:8-9.)
It is only faith that can justify and count for our righteousness.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4:5)
Salvation is not getting our sins forgiven, it's believing they already are!
Source - Truth Time Radio - also on youtube - for solid Bible study!
When you have a skewed eschatology then you can develop or believe bad doctrine easily.
@Faith On Fire
Apt term “Doctrine of Diminishment”, Brian. I wonder if Calvinism is appealing due to some Protestant denominations’ negligence of preaching or getting believers to understand the assurance of our salvation.
The lack of teaching leads people in a lot of different, and rather bad, directions. OTOH, preach from the Bible and modern churches may kick you out. That's why so many men compromise and don't touch on controversial subjects.
I am still confused over why would Calvinists need to tell anyone about he Gospel. Would their apathy (stay locked-up in their churches) derail God's plan of salvation for those they don't tell about it? Preposterous!
Alas, they seem more preoccupied to convert believers to their doctrine, so maybe they realized this loop "all pastors hate them for".
You nailed it. That is yet another inconsistency with their theology that speaks volumes against its validity. According to their theology God predestined all who will be saved and not one person will be added to that number and not one person will be lost from that number no matter what any human does. And yet, they certainly go to great lengths to try to prove to other Christians that they should leave their churches and join a Calvinist church... they usually say it in code this way.... join a church with "sound doctrine." There is no sound doctrine in Calvinism.
@@faithonfireministries Indeed, another paradox. Wish I came up with this one - but I heard it from from a most reliable second-hand source instead 😁. Needless to say, it stuck with me.
You know what none of us heard from any Calvinist, though? A sound...answer 😁.
There's just so much mental gymnastics involved in (paradoxically) making God "lesser" than what He is (from rendering Himself "vulnerable" - sorry, no better word in my posession - to rejection through the free will of His prized creation to someone that controls people like atoms), that alarms should go off. Calvinists have a false pretense at...having a higher view of God. "He's, all in all, a pretty likeable injust tyrant, 'cause, you know, I'm not sayin' but...facts are facts...you see, He chose me. Not that it has anything to do with wretched me...but still. Yeah. Yeah."
By the way, I'm afraid the expression "sound doctrine" (as a non-native English speaker, if that's a factor) may have forever been compromised for me; can't read those words other way than through Justin Peter's voice 😑.
Besides. If I were sooo chosen, maybe I could have a claim at having been more illuminated than the pseudo-Christians...right? I'm not sayin'...just sayin'.
@Szilard Fineas Covasa
We who are Reformed preach the gospel to every creature, because Jesus commands us to preach it to every creature, and because we love Him, we obey Him. God doesn't tell us who is elect, and who is not. We preach to everyone, trusting in the power of the gospel as used by the Holy Spirit to bring the elect to faith in Christ.
Have a nice day.
@@redmane_0725 So you do something that technically doesn't need to be done, other than because Christ asked you to do something (...that technically doesn't need to be done) since those predestined to be saved do not depend on anyone but God, Whom never fails to execute His perfect plan, regardless of any circumstance. This sounds as awkward as a running sentence.
This also makes me question even more the so-called "high view" of Christ the Calvinists hold. God is no longer just tyrranical, but a cosmic time-waster, if not a prankster; more like Allah, than the God of the Bible.
Proclaiming the Gospel is not only unnecessary, but a powerless, mere act of obedience.
Paradoxically, the Good News benefits only the proclaimer exclusively, as a dead act of obedience, instead of bringing life to the one that hears it. Why even call an Old Testament-like ritual "Good News" to begin with, if it has no power / effect? (Your answer suggests it does, though...)
Sorry, while I honestly aporeciate your attempt at answering (unlike others moving from splitting hairs into splitting atoms), your reasoning makes no sense.
Moreover, you don't do anything because you love Him, but because you were predestined to be saved, hence acting in a manner becoming of someone saved. (Which is, apparently, doing something that doesn't need to be done.) If he predestined you to love Him, I'd like to understand since when there's compulsion in love - and whether in our imperfect representation of earthly love we can ever see it exercised on top of compulsion.
Again: the amount of mental gymnastics necessary to accomodate these lens should tell you something about the validity of your reading of the Word.
I'm still open to hear @The Master's Call take on this. I will make an exception, and take the risk to interact with him again. Here's his chance to actually contribute something original, and not what MacArthur and the gang spoonfed him.
Make no mistake: he DID read this comment. He is refreshing constantly. He is part of those that have a near-OCD drive to be right. He could put it to better use, and I am graciously offering him the opportunity to do so here.
Thank you. You are so right.
It's not a problem listening to all the names Brian mentioned, for a Christian rooted in the Word. It is a problem when one does not know the Word, and can't throw away that which is not Biblical.
I honestly thought total depravity was another way of saying man was sinful
You are not mistaken. That is what the words mean but that is not what a Calvinist means when they say it. They have their own definition for otherwise normal Christian words and phrases. To them Total Depravity which is also known by its more accurate term Total Inability actually means that people are dead in sins and are unable to believe the Gospel or respond positively to God in any way no matter how many times they hear it or our influenced by Christians around them. However, that all changes if they were chosen by God from the beginning of time to be saved. Then at some decreed by God moment of their life they are born again and given the ability to believe the Gospel and they believe it no matter what if they were chosen by God. All others not chosen by God are passed over and God keeps them in that state of Total Depravity their whole life so they will go to hell for eternity because God does not want to save them. All of this Calvinism is garbage philosophy though, not Scripture.
@@faithonfireministries in that case, they’re definition defeats the whole gospel. Doesn’t give hope to someone who already may be hopeless. And I would hate to tell that to someone’s who unfortunately suicidal cause then they’ll see life as no point in living if God is already going to send them to hell from the beginning. Calvinism running the danger of creating a false God. They created a God that goes against the God of the Bible that wants no one to perish. I’m am kind of concerned of how much John Calvin is still relevant.
I also think that calvinism is a false teaching and misrepresentation of the gospel of grace. That being said, I think to call John MacArthur, Paul washer and John Piper wolves is a little extreme
After they believe Jesus as their savior
Don't you think?
I think they have a different Jesus that their phony religious cult has redefined that doesn't match that of the Lord Jesus Christ in the Bible. They redefine who Jesus is, who He loves, and who He came to save. Those are rather important concepts to the true Gospel, don't you think?
"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." Hmmm so God draws us to Jesus...God, draws us.
"7What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8as it is written, r“God gave them a spirit of stupor, seyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”" Hmmm so God...blinds them. HE holds them back.
John 11
"40 r“He has blinded their eyes and shardened their heart, lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them.”" Hmmm
At 7:00 when you're talking about babies dying and going to hell---
SEE BELOW! So many people miss this entirely! It is not taught in churches or seminaries! We are not born spiritually dead but alive, and we only die spiritually when we become aware of the law and intentionally sin against God! We are born with inherited sin nature (flesh/mind/soul), but we are not born spiritually dead!!!!
I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin came to life, and I died; and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me, and through it, killed me.
Romans 7:9-11 NASB2020
We don't know everything. I have more questions than answers:
Why did God order the death of children and babies? 1 Samuel 15:3 ESV: Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
Why would Paul bother differentiating between Holy children and unclean children if it was not possible for children to be unholy? 1 Cor 7:14 ESV: "........ Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy."
@@shadowmist1246 Context is important and you completely disregarded that by citing both of those verses totally out of context. Was that to be intentionally deceptive or just out of ignorance? Just read what is before and after them (or the whole chapter) and if you still don't understand then research the parts you don't understand. If you're born again and have the Holy Spirit, He interprets things which must be spiritually discerned for you which then begs the question--are you saved and born again and just in deception, do you just not know your Shepherd's voice--been trained to disregard the Holy Spirit in favor of religion, or are you unsaved and need to humble yourself before the Lord and accept His grace?
In 1 Samuel, God is commanding the Israelites to destroy the Amalekites for two reasons 1.) because they are descendants of the Nephilim/giants with DNA corrupted by fallen angel DNA. So they do not have human spirits--they have demonic spirits and cannot enter heaven ever. When they die, their spirits become disembodied seeking new hosts, i.e. demons, unclean spirits, spirits of infirmity, etc. 2.) It was a judgement against Amalek for their actions against the Israelites-- contextually as 3 related but district parts--as a city, it's people, and as a rouge angelic being--(a watcher--the angels who did not keep their place who is ruling over them as a false god). So to destroy them utterly was necessary to rid the earth of their scourge and Saul refused to do so and brought judgement upon himself because of it.
1 Corinthians 7:14
It's saying if you raise your kids right and in the faith they ought to believe, but if they don't then let them go because they are not enslaved and have a choice, and they may still come to Christ eventually.
@@tannerfrancisco8759 If you read the comment to which you are responding "half cocked" to, you should take notice that I have only (humbly) quoted a couple of verses and I have not provided any interpretation for you to get riled up about.
Brian, who are the elect spoken of in the Bible?
This video from another channel goes through every instance in which elect, election, chose and chosen is found in the Bible. ua-cam.com/video/9CBfPjjVnzE/v-deo.html&t
@Faith On Fire someone is elect or chosen for service, whether is past, present, or future service is irrelevant.
Since God declared the end from the beginning, he operates that declaration in time.
You have already agreed in a previous question that God knows all events that will happen in time before these events occur.
Since God knows who will be saved before they are born, when did their free will exist?
Knowing and determining are not the same.
@Faith On Fire 2 questions then come to mind.
How does God know it?
Will it come to pass the exact way He knows it?
@@Joe881 Strange questions but as a comment reader, I'll bite. The answer to your 1st question is only God knows and the answer to your 2nd question is God is omnicient and 100% accuracy would obviously be implied. I'm not sure how this would help with your calvinistic lens.
Question, are you a Charismatic Christian?
I am a born again Christian. I don't affiliate myself with the Charismatic movement. Why do you ask?
@@faithonfireministries Because you know and support Charismatic channels like Jew and Greek.
Yes, I like the Jew and Greek channel but I don't agree with everything he says, nor does he agree with everything I say. We agree on the Gospel and on many issues but not all. I definitely agree with his take on Calvinism and the lack of discernment coming from the Calvinist discernment channels. However, I can't think of any other channel like his that I watch. I think that is the only charismatic channel. However, I don't have any problem with main stream Charismatics. Hyper-Charismatics and the ultra rich televangelists and so-called faith healers? Yes, I have a problem with most of them.
With Brian(faith on fire) it depends on the day it is and who he's slandering.
Thanks for this video!
They use the scripture in Romans 9 that talks about Jacob and issue and how he hardened pharaoh's heart for his glory. I've only just heard about Calvinism like 2 weeks ago from one of my friends who is a calvand they make it seem like it's Very true and they have lots of scripture to back it up . I'm not saying that I believe what they believe. But I am curious what your opinion is about Y God rejected one and not the other?
Sure, great question. First, the Bible uses certain words that mean something different today than they did in Greek 2000 years ago. Romans 9: 13 pretty much says God loved Jacob and hated Esau before they were even born. As you pointed out, it appears God has rejected Esau but that is not the case. In Luke 14: 26 Jesus said you can't be his disciple if you don't hate your mother, father, wife, children and even yourself. Jesus said elsewhere the greatest commandments are to love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind and to love one another. Did Jesus contradict himself, love others or hate others? No. It is the use of the word hate and what that meant back then. Jesus was saying you must choose Him first as a higher priority than all other people including yourself to be a disciple. Remember, discipleship is what he is talking about, not about initial salvation which is not of works but of faith in Jesus Christ, his death, burial and resurrection. Discipleship and sanctification occur after one is already a born again believer.
So, back to Romans 9: 13. God chose Jacob first over Esau is not a reference not to them individually but to the nation that would come from them. Jacob had 12 sons who became the 12 tribes of Israel, and Esau was whom the nation of Edom came from. Jacob means Israel and Esau means Edom in Romans 9. Hate is a strong word, but this statement is actually saying that Israel is chosen by God to bless Edom, and all nations. Edom is a reference to Gentiles (all nations outside of Israel). The Bible sometime simply refers to everyone in the world outside of the Jews as Greek. That is why we often read in the Bible the phrase Jew and Greek (Israel and everybody else).
Before we get to Jacob, we have God choosing Abraham who was promised by God to be the father of a big nation (Israel) through his heirs. Hence the term, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In Genesis, there are several passages that clearly state God is not choosing Abraham and therefore rejecting all other nations. In fact, God is choosing Abraham so that the coming nation of Israel would be a blessing to all nations (who appear to have been rejected). Genesis 12: 3 and Genesis 22: 18 are two examples of this. One verse says through Abraham all people will be blessed, and the other says all nations will be blessed.
The promise of the Messiah coming was prophesied to come through the nation of Israel (Jacob). Jesus came and is the redeemer and Savior of the whole world, every single person that trusts in Him by faith receives the gift of grace (Ephesians 2: 8,9). The Gospel is given (1 Corinthians 15: 3,4) and Jesus gives us the Great Commission to preach it to all nations everywhere and to make disciples everywhere. The good news of the Gospel is for all people everywhere and is a blessing (salvation is the best blessing ever). This is what was meant in Genesis that through Abraham, all people and all nations will be blessed. So, rejection was not rejection, but God's plan for a blessing.
God loved Jacob and hated Esau sounds harsh, but when put in proper context to our Savior Jesus Christ, which Calvinists never do correctly, then we see it is a beautiful promise and a blessing to everyone. Then the text flows over to Romans 10 and we read how Paul reiterates the simple Gospel that saves in Romans 10: 9,10 and then several times he repeats that the Gospel is for whosoever believes, not just some special elect people.
@@faithonfireministries Wow thank you so much. That was a really wonderful explanation. I am a pretty new believer and I'm just learning to read The Bible and search The Bible. So it's kind of easy to get confused on these things because someone presents it to you a certain way
@@amymalcomesius5511 it is easy to get confused because there is an enemy of Christ, namely the devil... anyone who preaches calvinism, RUN AWAY FROM THEM!!!
Thank you, brother. Blessings to you!
Brother you and anyone who thinks this is correct has a fundamental misunderstanding of the doctrines of grace.
Calvinists can't even agree on Calvinism. When I represent what Calvinism is I am referring to what the leading, most influential voices of Calvinism teach and their current statements of faith and historical confessions of faith and writings of Calvin they affirm, not what every Tom Dick and Harry happens to think about it that attends a Calvinist church.
Who are the elect spoken of in the Bible?
@@CC-ii3ij Actually the word “eklektos” is an adjective. It refers to God’s elect. The one that God choses, not those who have chosen themselves. It means to pick out, chosen to obtain salvation through Christ. Who does the choosing and picking? It’s God!
The noun “ekloge” is election or chosen is very similar and is still a 100% act of God. An act of picking out, choosing of the act of God’s free will by which before the foundation of the world. Also, the decree made from choice by which he determined to bless certain persons through Christ by grace alone. a thing or person chosen of persons: God's elect.
This certainly looks like He is speaking to individuals. While the scripture is speaking to a collective group of Christians, they are made up of individuals.
We were also saved for a purpose. God has ordained us to walk in good works.
The verb “chose” you are correct is “eklegomai” is used in the Bible as chose, choose out, or make choice. It’s used to refer to God’s choice of Israel (for no reason of their own but God’s choice mind you) and its used for Christians. Here is the outline of Biblical usage. //of God the Father choosing Christians, as those whom he set apart from the irreligious multitude as dear unto himself, and whom he has rendered, through faith in Christ, citizens in the Messianic kingdom: (James 2:5) so that the ground of the choice lies in Christ and his merits only//
Copied from the Blue letter Bible.
The ground of the choice lies in Christ and His merits only! Not on a person asking Jesus into their heart or accepting Jesus (which are all unbiblical).
@C C I simply copied the biblical outline usage in Blue Letter Bible. Are you saying the BLB is a Calvinist interpretation?
It's actually the historical definition that synergist like to ignore.
@C C maybe you could show me what I said that was "rat poison ".
@C C Again, I just copied the biblical outline usage in Blue Letter Bible.
@C C is Blue Letter Bible a Calvinist tool and filled with "rat posion"?
G1586 - eklegomai
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ἐκλέγομαιTransliteration: eklegomaiPronunciation: ek-leg'-om-aheePart of Speech: verbRoot Word (Etymology): Middle voice from ἐκ (G1537) and λέγω (G3004) (in its primary sense)TDNT Reference: 4:144,505Outline of Biblical Usage:
to pick out, choose, to pick or choose out for one's self
choosing one out of many, i.e. Jesus choosing his disciples
choosing one for an office
of God choosing whom he judged fit to receive his favours and separated from the rest of mankind to be peculiarly his own and to be attended continually by his gracious oversight
i.e. the Israelites
of God the Father choosing Christians, as those whom he set apart from the irreligious multitude as dear unto himself, and whom he has rendered, through faith in Christ, citizens in the Messianic kingdom: (James 2:5) so that the ground of the choice lies in Christ and his merits only
Your keeping me up late here in London uk. I go to a Presbyterian church and I might be the only one who dosent believe or if I'm honest wouldn't want to believe in that.
Can you do a video on the Calvinist Tyler Vella Deconversion?
There have been a couple of good ones at Idol Killer and Provisionist Perspective on the Vela deconversion.
IS the WEF a modernized version of Calvinism?! (anti-God, with a belief structure of it's own making)! Would love to hear your thoughts on the CONNECTION between Calvinism and Klaus Schwab's WEF! It just occurred to me that strangely enough both hailed from Geneva. Both Calvin and Klaus Schwab moved to Geneva where they developed their rather un-godly theories with dramatic world-wide impact. I love Geneva as a city so not saying anything about the place. But there appears a connection between Calvin's ideas and Klaus Schwab's WEF ideologies. It is interesting that Klaus Schwab (though German) has long resided in Geneva where he developed his ultimate world CONTROL plan via the World Economic Forum. He has drawn world leaders (King Charles UK among them) and wields tremendous world -wide power (he is a great admirer of the CCP in China and envisions a similar control here in the West) though he has never been elected in any country! From their annual meeting in Davos they plan a 'City of God' which was Calvin's idea as well! (following Augustus CALVIN also wanted to mold Geneva into a CITY OF GOD with total control over all). Both Calvinism and WEF envision a City of God of their own making, a modern version of the tower of Babel. They already indicated that any 'UNBELIEVERS' in THEIR Man-Made Utopia (which is a nightmarish dystopia really!) will be cut off (from supplies, from being able to buy and sell and put to death at least virtually at first.) Very End Times Scenario!
@@deana.9883 Oh wow, I did not even know there were WEF partnership churches in the US! That is a horrifying thought.
@Dr. Silvia Kratzer
Until you can produce supporting evidence, this should be regarded as nothing more than a pack of nonsense.
@@redmane_0725 LOL! I pointed out the parallels and expressed an opinion based on the parallels. What evidence are you spewing about? You have zero academic credentials. I published in the academic field for years, wrote my doctorate, presented my written work and countless papers at academic conferences. You have no clue as to what does and what does not require so-called 'evidence'! LOL! Best of luck to you.
@Dr. Silvia Kratzer
Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. Since you offer nothing in support of the supposed 'paralells', your opinion has as no more force of persuasion than anyone else's. Have a nice day.
@Dean A.
She appealed to her own academic credentials and experience in a effort to give added weight to her opinion, a clear example of the fallacy.
Have a nice day.
I guess that if you display any skepticism about their doctrine, you're not one of the elect & are doomed anyway.
To claim that these preachers have said that “God hates people who are not the elect” is a lie and I understand your trying to make a case, but don’t be dishonest about what they have said.
You are wrong. They do teach that but usually not directly and plainly as that. Indirectly, that is clearly their message. All non-elect are those that God determined shall have no ability to believe the Gospel, not by their own will, but by God's will and that results in God determined them to go to hell without any possible hope of salvation offered to them, as God does to those He loves. That is a lie though, but Calvinists will say the non-elect are "vessels of wrath" and are "fitted for destruction" and "vessels of dishonor" all by God's sovereign decree. Are you suggesting those phrases Calvinist take out of context from the Bible are ways that God expresses His loves towards those whom by His will He is sending to hell, devoid of access to the same Grace of God you think you have been offered by God?
Get over yourself! You are deceived by Calvinism which is a cult and cult members lie for the cult. They never admit they are in a cult. They always claim they have the best most enlightened way, smarter than all the others. They always have their own special belief system they follow separate from Scripture. They all lie and say Scripture is their authority and that the Bible perfectly supports their belief system (WCOF or LBCOF for Calvinists) but that is demonstrably not true. But that is the claim so they can secretly teach their man-made system and say it is Biblical and keep their members drinking the Kool-Aid.
Well said
It amazes me that so many people hate John Calvin or Calvinist. The argument you and others have is against God's word and not John Calvin. You can't discuss scripture but have to have the scapegoat of Calvin to make your message acceptable to the majority. Jesus said there will be Few that find it. Drinking of the water of life is Not a scripture of salvation but is speaking to The Elect. "All Men" are of every kindred, tongue, tribe and nation i.e. every kind of man, not every individual. Synecdoche definition - a part represents the whole. This is how we use language today as did the Jews. "Whosoever" is not in the Greek language. The Greek word is Pas - meaning the believing all. Verse 14 of John 3 says that those who looked upon the brazen serpent - Lived!!! Jesus had just discussed with Nicodemus that a man has to be Born of the Spirit to see the kingdom of heaven. In chapter 1 verse 13 John says that we are not born of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. There is No Free Will!!! Man is Dead in trespasses and sin and has to be Quickened by God, not by his Free Will. Jesus reveals himself to whom he wills. No man can come unless the Father draws him though the Holy Spirit to have Faith (which is God's Gift, not of yourself or Free Will, lest any man should boast). This is the condemnation, that light has come into the world and men loved darkness more than light. God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness has to shine His light into the darkened heart of men to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Lamb Slain before the foundation of the world and He came to redeem those whose names were already in the Lambs Book of Life before the world began. They are His Sheep/The Elect. And through the written word of scripture and the foolishness of preaching they will Hear His Voice and come, in due season. Your message is popular to the masses because it is Another Gospel, but The Sheep will not hear it.
Were you determined to
be amazed or was this a response of your will/being ?
Repeating cult talking points coalesced with Bible verses is not too sound, maybe attune your being to the true Masters call. Your choice.
@@truthseeker5698 Make your point with scripture
@@themasterscall2426 God IS love. Whosoever will, For God so loved the world ……,
Son of hell, you still
have time to turn from your deception. You can do this if you’re willing, Jesus will
help you , TMC.
@@truthseeker5698 You think you know Jesus, but Jesus does not know you - end of discussion
@@themasterscall2426 😂😂😂 the father of lies speaking through you, hell’s son.
"What is Man that YOU are Mindful of him?" (Psalms 8:4) and "O LORD, what is man, that You regard him, the son of man that You think of him?" Ps 144:3. The Enemy wants God to disregard fallen mankind. The Enemy could not prevail with his accusations of man as NOTHING to God. GOD IS MINDFUL of mankind despite our fallen state. SO INSTEAD, the Enemy tried to at least put the majority under God's curse, that is the supposed unelected and not predestined of Calvinism. So instead of God of : "What is Man that YOU are Mindful of him?" it becomes a very subtly perversion of Scriptures into: What is Man that YOU are mindful of SOME OF MEN?. The Devil knows how to recite Scriptures and twist it into it's opposite.
"All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, He is pleased, in His appointed and accepted time, effectually to call, by His Word and Spirit, out of that state of sin and death in which they are by nature, to grace and salvation by Jesus Christ: enlightening their minds, spiritually and savingly, to understand the things of God, taking away their heart of stone, and giving unto them an heart of flesh; renewing their wills, and by His almighty power determining them to that which is good; and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ; yet so as they come most freely, being made willing by His grace."
Westminster Confession, Chapter 10, Paragraph 1.
Read the entire thing, not just the part you want to mischaracterize, and call a 'divine download'. The call comes "by His Word and Spirit," the operative phrase, which results in everything which follows it. This is now the second time in just a few days I have endeavored to correct you on this point. Why do you continue to perpetrate this falsehood? If you are going to argue against something, you should have enough integrity to represent it accurately, rather than setting up a strawman to light on fire.
@Paul Powell
I understand your frustration.
14:20 "They have no ability to respond positively to the Gospel because God has kept them that way." But how can you deny that there have been countless individuals throughout history who never even heard the Gospel? So if you accept that so many people have never heard the Gospel, and died in their sins, and those are people that God created and He allowed them to live in a place and time where they never had the chance to hear the Gospel, then it seems to me that God did in fact keep them that way. If you cannot address this, Brian, then I think your whole argument has no foundation.
I don't need to address it in this video because you are on a different topic completely. However, rest assured the Bible has the answers and it always comes back to Jesus Christ as God and Savior. I hope you are not suggesting that those who lived and died before Christ or lived in another part of the world where the Gospel had not yet reached ALL have died in their sins. That is not true. God is our Savior. Jesus is God as co-equal person of the Godhead. Therefore, Jesus created everything and everyone. He has always been the redeemer and Savior. Romans 1: 20 says, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."
@@faithonfireministries Are you saying that there is more than one way to heaven? If so, I absolutely disagree. I firmly believe with all my heart that the only way to heaven, since Christ's resurrection, is to make Him complete Lord of our lives, accept that He is the Son of God, and that He died for the forgiveness of our sins. So, as to your question, "I hope you are not suggesting that those who lived and died before Christ or lived in another part of the world where the Gospel had not yet reached ALL have died in their sins.", Yes, I am suggesting that, at least those who have lived after Christ's resurrection in someplace where the Gospel never reached them.
Romans 10:13 - 15: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
I firmly believe those verses and firmly believe it means what it says, that it takes someone to be sent to preach to those individuals for them to be saved. Without hearing the Word of God, just looking around the earth and up to the sky, and thinking a God created that, and that we should strive to be good is not enough. If so, one could say that many Muslims are saved. Or even many Hindus, or any number of other religions that believe that a god created the universe and that they should live a good moral life. But none of them are indwelled by the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit, they do not belong to Christ.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Yep, I agree with you on all those passages. Therefore I am thinking you agree with me that the Calvinist's explanation of how one is saved is unbiblical. They believe the preaching of the Gospel is irrelevant to a "Totally Depraved" person because they say he has no ability to respond to the Gospel unless God has chosen him as part of the Elect, and then regardless of whether he hears it or not at some decreed moment in an Elect person's life he is given "saving faith" which is the Holy Spirit regenerating him though he was an unbeliever and then supernaturally giving him belief in Christ. Do you believe this as Calvinists do or not? Or do you believe a person has the ability to hear the Gospel and believe it, and they receive grace through faith, so Total Depravity is not true at all?
As for muslims and Hindus you mentioned, they believe in false gods. Of course they are not saved. They have rejected the one true living God. We were talking about people who have never heard the Gospel, and the question is does God have another way of reaching them with the knowledge of Christ through the Holy Spirit whose work in the world of unbelievers is to convict the world of its sin of unbelief? Perhaps that is done through the Creation at times per Romans 1: 20. Is not God merciful to provide a way for all since Scripture says God does not wish that any man should perish?
Given that, I am wondering how you interpret Romans 1: 20? Also, how would you interpret the mercy and grace of God as written by Paul in 1 Tim 1: 12,13? God found him to be "faithful" so God put him into ministry though he was a sinner but only in ignorance who had not known or believed in Christ. How could he have been "faithful" before knowing Christ after the resurrection?
Well said my friend, but you must recognize that God has given everyone the light of Creation as well as an inward witness the light of consciousness to know that there is a God so that men are without excuse -Romans 1:19 (NASB95): because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.Romans 1:20 (NASB95): For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. All men everywhere can look at this world and know that there is a Great designer a Creator God. Again Paul further adds to the moral witness we have within ourselves -Romans 2:12 (NASB95): For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law;Romans 2:14 (NASB95): For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves,Romans 2:15 (NASB95): in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them,Romans 2:16 (NASB95): on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
So God has given everyone the light of Creation and the light of consciousness a inward witness so that we may reach out to Him-Acts 17:26 (NASB95): and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,Acts 17:27 (NASB95): that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us.
The God of the Bible has given every man the same witness and opportunity to know him no matter their location through the light of Creation and the light of consciousness. However the God of the Calvinist is not so loving and does not provide the opportunity for all men to be saved, because unlike the God of the Bible who desires ALL MEN TO BE SAVED as scripture says, the Calvinist God only wants some men to be saved, but no where in scripture do we find that written do we?
Everyone has heard the phrase "famous last words". With that being said, why is it that the 4 gospel writers don't agree on the last words of Jesus. If they were witnesses in a court of law, their testimony would be thrown out.
Luke 23:46
"And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit.” And having said thus, He gave up the ghost."
John 19:30
" When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
So what were the last words of Jesus? What Luke said or what John said?
Matthew 27;46
“And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
Eli Eli is Hebrew and means "my God my God" and Christians always make a reference to Psalm 22 where it says
באֵלִ֣י אֵ֖לִי לָמָ֣ה עֲזַבְתָּ֑נִי רָח֥וֹק מִ֜ישֽׁוּעָתִ֗י דִּבְרֵ֥י שַֽׁאֲגָתִֽי:
That word "sabachtani" does not exist in this verse as it does in the New Testament. "sabachtani" replaced AZAVTANI. It's mistranslated. Lama lama means "why why have you entrapped me" not forsaken me. Azavtani means entrapped me
Mark 15:34
"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”.
So Mark quotes Jesus as saying it in Aramaic not Hebrew. Since Mark was the first writing, he was the one more correct than Matthew.
So all 4 gospel writers say something different for the last words of Jesus. The gospel writers all disagree with each other, contradict each other. Abandoning someone and entrapping someone are 2 different things.
How are any of those verses a "contradiction"? Some Gospel writings include very specific information, others more general and others in between. When you put them all together you get a clearer picture of what occurred. If each gospel was written "exactly" like the other, some may accuse the writers of "Collusion".
As for you latter point, Jesus "revised" or "clarified" several Old Testament writings that were under the OLD Covenant. For instance in Luke 4:8 Jesus even says, "It is WRITTEN: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’” But the actual verse in Deuteronomy 6:13 uses the word "Fear" instead of "Worship".
These are not "contradictions". They're "clarifications" in light of the NEW COVENANT vs the OLD COVENANT.
God's Word isn't just "ink on paper", it's Spiritual. And without the Holy Spirit or direct revelation from God you'll not be able to properly understand it.
@@rcpainter3023 Four different testimonies from four eyewitnesses would be thrown out in a court of law. It isn't credible. You will deny the truth in your deathbed. There's a reason Zechariah wrote in 8:23 "So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." We had it right all along. Some day you'll know.
@@zaharabardavid Not in God's court of law.
ahaaa...
i think i got it finally
i knew about election
but do they really think that god om purpose also have people chosen for hell?.. all non elect, are chosen by god to perish?...
i thought it is just the people who come to believe who are elect, and god want all ti become elect and non to perish..
now i know from the bible, that god want no one to perish, so if calvinists think god want all non elect chosen people to perish. then i finally know what u try to say all the time i watch your calvinist videos
thank you
When born, we are all born into sin, and the wages of sin is death, so God didn't need to choose Hell for anybody, we were born into it. What t else did He have to save anyone from other than our sin? So God is still just to save some and not everyone. He would still remain Holy.
Why would God give man "choice" if He didn't want man to choose Him over sin? According to Calvinism we don't have choice, it's predetermined.
Does not the potter have power over the clay, does he not have the right to have one for fine dining and one for common use. A supernatural transformation, a new creature the Bible says. When Jesus finds you, your understanding grows. If your feeling offended or have lack of understanding about these deep truths that can only be taught and interpreted by the Holy Spirit, keep praying, keep seeking. The key is obedience. Total submission to the Most High. Ask yourself. Are prayers being answered. Are you having personal victory in your life? What of your fruit? If your living in sin this could be reason for your lack of understanding as well. And you may not be saved. Sanctification is necessary. We as Christian’s have many denominations. Finding the one for you is between you and the Holy Spirit. Many different beliefs To each has been dealt a measure of faith. The gospel they preach is biblical it’s just not the understanding you prefer my brother. I don’t agree with everything John and voddie say, but they do love the Lord that’s for sure. Let’s make disciples and unify not divide the church.
God is all powerful and He does not want anyone to perish and that is why Jesus Christ lowered himself to become one of His own creation to show us God in the flesh and become a substitutionary sacrifice for our sins, redeeming the World and being the Savior to all (whosoever) who will believe in Him and trust fully in Him 100% for their salvation. Calvinist trust in being of the Elect for their salvation, and belief in Christ is secondary which is why Calvinist teach Total Depravity and that regeneration precedes faith which is backwards according to Scripture.
And in all due respect, my videos against Calvinism is not divisive, but a response to how divisive Calvinists are and the damage they are doing to the Body of Christ with their false teachings. It is standing for the truth of the Gospel and on sound doctrine against doctrines of devils. Calvinists have infiltrated otherwise good Bible schools and seminaries with their gnostic philosophies. They have infiltrated Bible believing churches built by solid Christians many decades ago and try to convert them to Calvinism. They get hired after hiding their actual reformed/Calvinist beliefs only to cause church splits once they finally gain enough influence and credibility several years later and begin revealing their false doctrines slowly, changing the sound doctrines the church once held for so long. They then excommunicate the members who argue against the doctrinal changes.
There is one truth, and one True Gospel only, not different and acceptable versions of it. Also the prayers that God has answered in my life would not have been answered in the life of a Calvinst Cessationist because they wouldn't even have bothered to pray and receive what I have received and that is due to their Cessationism and consistent teachings that prove they are repulsed by the work of the Holy Spirit in believer's lives. They often try to demonize anyone who experiences a real miraculous answered prayer. While I was never a Calvinist, there are many great testimonies from Christians who speak out against the religious elitism and false teachings of Calvinism they were once well entrenched into, only to be saved out of it.
@@faithonfireministries your attacking their understanding. Their doctrine is accurate, it’s understanding that’s in question. I’ve been extremely blessed my friend to be able to go into any CHRISTIAN church, and fellowship and rejoice in the body. No perfect church. Amen. Each having the love and respect for our king all showing it different ways. For the Lord knows our hearts. Chapter 14 kjv Roman’s. Review this chapter carefully. Meditate on it for a day, and then listen to His voice. Your have great zeal my brother. Again let’s make disciples and remember we are one body. Thank you for your point of view and spiritual insight into how it may make others feel. This is troubling, but in love. Bless you in the name of Yeshua. Amen
Wow, your channel should be renamed Ignorance on Fire, and that would be charitable. 🤦🏻♂
If I was exposing Mormonism I'd get Mormons that rail against me and say similar things. No surprise. Truth is truth though. Calvinism is evil.
@@faithonfireministries except Mormonism is heretical teaching and false doctrine; the doctrines of grace aren’t.
Let me ask you this easy question... Who in the Bible desires to deceive as many people as possible from the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Who in the Bible wants people to go to hell?
Wow… it is disconcerting that so many people in these comments are saying that their understanding of Gnosticism is being improved by your videos… because it is very clear that you have done almost zero reading in church history at all if you want to argue for a connection between Gnosticism and Calvinism.
You are hardly an unbiased source of criticism since you are a defender of Calvinism who is constantly disagreeing with me and anybody else here who points out that Calvinism is evil and a dangerous infiltration of Christianity. Give it up! You belong to a cult.
@@faithonfireministries It doesn’t matter what you may think of me, Brian, but it is a verifiable *fact* that you haven’t read any church history. Comparing Gnosticism with Calvinism is proof of that, so much so that even non-Christian historians would laugh your conclusions out of the room. But don’t take my word for it; go pick up a book and do some reading. Do yourself a favor and actually *learn* something about the topic you are discussing.
@@CmRoddy Thanks for confirming for everyone how you make stuff up to defend the indefensible. You don't know what I have read, what I have studied, etc but you claim to know. How interesting. Are you a psychic now? Everybody knows you are just blatantly lying to defend Calvinism. Historians agree with me! Deal with it.
@@faithonfireministries Brian, what did the Gnostics believe about the nature of Jesus?
@@CmRoddy I have made it abundantly clear that Calvinism is Gnosticism merged with the Bible. That is true. No way around it. I did an entire video explaining it and have touched on that topic other times in other videos that I know you watched because you commented on those too. I'm not doing videos about what original Gnostics believed or practiced. So, if you want to argue over what Gnostics believed and say that is separate from Christianity, feel free, I would agree with you but that is a different argument. Then go read the Westminster Confession of Faith Chapter X, paragraph i and that is a clear representation of how Gnosticism infiltrated Christianity merging two thoughts and changed the good news of the Gospel, redefined and diminished the Trinity and the good news of the Gospel into an untrue gnostic gospel of election.
Anyone who does not understand Calvinism does not understand it because God has decreed they not understand. This is true even for believers who do not understand.
When they stand before God, they will have no excuse because no one can defy God’s decree, and not be held to account, whether or not they can help themselves.
So a believer who does not hold to Calvinism can both rejoice and dread. He can rejoice because he is carrying out God’s sovereign decree he was destined to fulfill , while at the same time dread that he holds this wrong view of God.
@Dean A. HAHAHA!!! Exactly!
Backdrop: I happen to reject Calvinism as false doctrine - that anyone teaching distinctively Calvinistic doctrine is as dead to genuine service to the Lord as a JW or Mormon, and that I am more compassionate than the Calvinistic caricature of God (not boasting, just doing really basic math.) But it's not my intent to debate it here.
An interesting observation (at least to me) is that, based on this rejection of what is considered by Calvinists to be God's truth, I apparently am still not considered the natural man (an unsaved person according to the Calvinist) in 2 Corinthians 2:14. Are not the "doctrines of grace" included in the "things of God" in that verse? I know full well how the verse is touted as a Total Depravity proof text - the assertion that without the gift of faith from above the lost person cannot believe the gospel. It seems that what constitutes the "things of God" in 2 Corinthians 2:14 may be cherry-picked.
Then again, if my self-description strikes a Calvinist as an unsaved person, OK - no validation sought when I engage with one.
Ershwyn Thibou - how to be saved??? Did you know that Heaven is a free gift from God? Billions of people go to bed every night wondering if they have been “good enough” to go to heaven. There is no need to live in fear and doubt. Jesus taught that you can “know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
There are many passages in the Bible that teach the truth about Heaven being a free gift from God because of what Jesus did for us on the cross, not by our own good works. One of the most clear and important passages is from the Apostle Paul’s letter to the Ephesians:
Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”
Most people think that Heaven is a riddle which can never be solved. This is not true! The Bible is very clear about how you get to Heaven, and how it comes by faith in Jesus Christ, not by trusting in our own good works.
We are living in the dispensation of the grace of God, by believing and trusting the gospel of salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) given to our Apostle Paul by Jesus Christ you are saved and sealed with the holy Spirit of promise till the day of redemption!!!
Ephesians 1:13 - King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Romans 2:16 - King James Version
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. (Paul's Gospel - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4).
For solid Bible study, please visit ''Truth Time Radio'' - also on youtube - learn the truth and unlearn the lies!
"When God created men to be unable to accept the Gospel, they will have no way to justify before Him for having not accepted the Gospel."
If only you ended that with a "trollface" smiley, it would've been perfection.
Thank you for doing God's work, discrediting Calvisims vigorously.
You guys sound like every well-read Muslim and don't even have an idea.
I had a whole multi paragraph, rather funny, if I must say so myself, comment written out.
I deleted it. This video was just plain silly.
You've gotta move on. We know you can't understand the Bible. We get it.
Next subject, please.
Personal attack and you lose the debate….play the topic not the man
@@AbBowhunter HI AUDREY!!!! Nice to see you here ol buddy!!!!!!
Truth is silly to you Bucky boy?
@@mick9371 unsurprising really. Now used to that tactic
@@johndisalvo6283 did you watch the video? What truth did you glean from it?