I run these tires on my 17 Honda AT. Right out of the gate I did the same thing. Ran to my local OHV park and tested them. Hauled 85 mph the entire way and ripped up the hills all over the park like I was on my XR400. I also run carve mountain twisties like I am on my old supermoto bike. I have absolutely no complaints after about 6k of all types of riding. I do agree the soft stuff is it's nemesis but what do you expect from a street tire? For the average ADV rider it's a great tire. Great on the roads and great down the dirt road to camp. I'm sold on them for sure.
I've also AT1100 in need of new tyres! I like the reviews on the missions! But there heavy! I like the thought of either avon Trec or track or the tck70 rocks paired with ax41 front! I mostly ride road, but need a good tyre for a heavy bike with a heavy rider who has no skills off road!!
Watched this on the other channel but watched it again and gave it a big 👍🏻. Love to hear the big bike growl off road. If you don’t fail at something, you never find the true limit!
This is the review we need for tyres like this! I was contemplating putting 40/60s or 50/50s on my Himalayan but I think this sells the Trailmax Missions for me. I am unfortunately in a country where we don't really get to ride off road, so realistically this is probably spot on for me.
I can't believe you gave up so easy. Pressure down in the sand mate. It wasn't the tyre, it was the bike settings and rider. The bike should have been sitting there spinning the wheel if it was the tyre. The bike just bogged down and stalled. 35psi is way too much pressure but shows how good these tyres are. 20psi max on the rear tyre in the loose sand. Great review and great riding. Enjoyed the video mate. Cheers
You should come check out this hill sometime in person :) Look up my other video on my T7 vs the widowmaker hillclimb, it shows that hill better. We spend about an hour here this day and it wouldn’t go at any pressure. But… I would love to see some do it on a 50/50 tire on an adventure bike.
I recently bought a V-Strom 650 for a tourer. It needed tires immediately, and I'm hoping to eventually try some bdr type stuff. So far, I've got about 5,000 street miles on these, and they barely look worn in at all. Not too much power on the V-Strom, so they may last me a couple summers. I was definitely excited to see you put them on two of the best middleweights available right now. Thanks so much.
Just a point of interest! I have been riding and racing for 40 years! I have been watching your videos for a bit! When getting off your bike put the side stand down first! That way you want pull the bike down on top of you! Especially when you have stuff one the back of the seat!
I see the adv guys do it but I’ve also seen kickstaands bend / break and have heard horror stories or engine cases that they mount to breakup off. I’ll keep throwing a leg over like my little bikes for now until I get a lot older and more broken. I do appreciate the advice though
@Every Single Sunday No you don't want to put weight on the side stand! You can break it! I lean it over and swing my leg over! Don't stand up on the pegs and get off! You will break ot bend it!
Great real life review! I considered this tire but ultimately went with the Mitas E07+ and pretty happy. Sure wish we had riding areas like that here in Ontario Canada!
I'm glad you got these tires for free because this was a hell of an advert for them. They're incredibly impressive tires. They look so street oriented but you proved they do better in the dirt than they have any right to really. Great video
Great video review @everysinglesunday. I had these on my Desert Sled and they were really fun, and very long lasting - some GS riders are reporting up to 8k miles on rears. The one issue I found with them is they are bias-ply construction, making them heavy and stiff AF. Due to the geometry / weight of the Sled it threw off the high speed stability, and I would get sketchy head shake on the hwy, esp. under heavy acceleration or heavy turbulence from vehicles / cross-winds. I didn’t have that issue w/ the stock Pirelli STRs. The Sled does not have a steering stabilizer, so I ended up tuning out the head shake by softening up the front suspension and stiffening the rear suspension to get more load up front. Probably solved 80-90% of the shake problem. The other thing I noticed is the handling felt different. Not necessarily a problem, but took some time to get used to and it could handle all sorts of road conditions w/o issues. Again, I think it is because they’re heavier/stiffer being bias-ply, and the Sled has wide tires, 120 up front and 170 in the rear. Otherwise a great product from Dunlop, great for adv 50/50 riding.
Excellent, thorough review of these tires. I am running a set on a 2012 R1200GS and find them an excellent overall tire. I have had some “moments” in muddy sections but not much drama elsewhere.
The Missions last a long time, but not great in deep sand/ deep mud. Run them on my DL1000XAL8. 8000 miles, rear looks half gone, front about 2/3's gone and starting to scallop. I'm expecting 10,000 miles on front, 12,000 miles rear. Haven't been riding, separated a should and hurt my rotor cuff, then broke a finger left hand, then sprained the right wrist and left knee, and it's just taking a lot of time to heal. Next year. Next set will be the Raids. Hoping they last a long time. Kind of hope you guys give them a try before I buy them 🙂
I've been looking for a tire to replace the TKC80 that came on my 890R. Turns out, I'm spending a lot more time on the road than I thought I would. Being in San Diego, there's gates on every fire road in the county it seems. And pretty much every place you could ride off road is closed now. Except for the 2 OHV areas out east. These tires might be a good choice. I like the TKC, but it's got a pretty short lifespan.
I’ve ridden these at McCain and Corral Canyon. They work great on road and are just fine for SoCal dirt in most places I’d take these over the 80s for what I ride most days. If I go for real off-road I’ll take a full knobby and skip the 80s
Great street tire works well on dirt light sand mud gravel. Not so great on deep sand gravel and Oklahoma mud. They are on my V85 now tractionator adv go on when I get serious about trail riding. Defiantly had to slow down on the trailmax.
Ya, each tire is a bit different and excels at different stuff. This video was just to see what we could tackle on the tire and how sketchy it was to do so
Have a set of these I keep around for the T7. Fantastic multipurpose tire provided you keep your brain engaged around soft muck. Better than I was expecting. Only sad part is, confirmed by Dunlop Engineering, the 150/70-18 has the center strip for lug reinforcement on "big power" bikes that typically use that size. Funny since the 17" on the GS1250 doesn't 🤣 Otherwise the Missions I give people as the go-to dualsport tire these days unless they plan on getting really into dirt. Sucky part is once you wear them down that strip is no fun. Tire cutter seems to be the go-to on ADVRider. Otherwise I run around on a Motoz DV front and ADV rear. Might try the smaller width Tube DV next time. The TL still gets into highspeed wobbles on the T7 (85+). Better than the Rallz though.
They definitely aren’t the best off-road tire but I’m happy to join my weekly Wednesday night DS ride using these Feel safe enough that I don’t need to swap my knobbies on unless we’re getting crazy
My balls are sweating just by watching you guys!!! Damn!!! Balls of steel! Too bad we can't get these tires in our country, been searching and only option is to import!
You nailed it. We all still race and ride hard enduro so the bikes are just bigger and heavier than the small ones. The skills transfer over very well. These big bikes are intimidating for sure on some terrain
I got the Motoz Rallz on my 890 adv r. Very noisy on the road especially if you are using low pressure. In fact with the pressure too low (20-25) i broke bead on the front bashing over logs. I think it's quieter and all most as good traction a little over 30 psi. This tire is dangerous at speeds over 100 mph.
They are definitely the heaviest on the scale but I do not feel them on the bike at all For this category of tire, these are by far my favorite and I have written a lot of different ones
Yes, I have Look for this test I wanted to have them at a Street pressure because not everybody airs down Normally, I have a knobby on the bike with around 25 psi for off-road
I wanted to ride them as I would if it was most prop who wouldn’t air down. Yes they could have been better if dropped but so many are scared to drop down. It’s silly
Appreciate the review! I agree with the fact that a bike looks kinda weird with those tires and I prefer a knobby tire on my ADV bike too. That said, do you have a recommendation on a knobby 50/50 that performs as good or better as the Missions?
@@EverySingleSunday I have just recently completed a trip across Australia, west to east and return, on a set of MITAS EO7+ tyres, nearly 10,000 km and still plenty left in them. Planned off road enroute had to be curtailed due to sudden time constraints, but they have survived the summer heat of the Nullarbor crossing on my SuperTenere well. Will use a set again on my next crossing on my T7. I have tried the Anake Wilds on my T7 but they just don't have the endurance of the Mitas EO7+.
I know you say they’re street tires, but believe it or not it’s more a dirt tire that does well on the street. I think these tires are bad ass for the adventure rider that does pavement and hits the fire roads etc, you can’t beat it.
It’s definitely a good tire for an adventure rider who doesn’t do much dirt. But compared to a real dirt tire it lacks a lot. I love it because i keep this set in my street wheels and a set of knobbies on my other set of wheels.
@@marklundeen1025 if you’re looking for a good street tire that can do some light off-road they definitely will do it. But if you’re looking for more of a dual sport tire to do BDR style rides I’d go with something a little knobbier.
With the right bike and rider I’m sure it would. It definitely has a deeper tread for more drive. The new Dunlop Trailmax off-road or what’s it is called looks great as well
On the street, were they noisy? How was the wear/mileage. The two of you will be much harder than I would be these tires. My goal is to travel yet hit fire roads, with my gear. Ride safe and have fun. 🇺🇸
To me, they are fantastic on the street. They seem quiet and I trust them in the corners. But I’m also not someone who spends a lot of time on the street so I can’t compare them to how most Street Tires behave I have heard from others that they get 7 to 10,000 miles of street use but I took them off well before that
The Rallz is a completely different tire. I have a set going on next week for a trip to Colorado. I wouldn’t do this tire with a more aggressive rear as it’ll feel very odd / dangerous if you ever get offroad.
Bought a DR with the Dunlop on the front...lots of glacier till around here. The Dunlop does not inspire confidence in that type of terrain...getting there is fine. Rallz on the back so it wants to push the front...
So I just bought a set of motoz tractionator GPS, but I love watching and learning about others experiences with different tires. Always doing homework for the next set/mod. I have a question for you. I hate changing tires on the floor. And I was just looking at a few different tire changers. I saw one for cheap at harbor freight that looked really similar to the one that you were using. How do you like it? And what brand is it? Thanks for the video!
If you are using air in your tires. Hop over to DirtBikeTV website and email Jay for his tire stand drawing and have someone build one for you if you can’t weld yourself. His is the best stand for tires with air
How would these compare to the Dunlop D605’s? I have a DR650 with D605’s. Love it off road but I do a lot of highway/commuting to work 40 miles round trip also and they get a little buzzy 65 plus. They are about 60% dead with 1,700 miles on em. Debating if I should get the Missions as I’m not to crazy off road and want to be more comfortable on highway/ decent off road with single track very sparingly. I can’t go back to the trailwings even though great on highway. Piss poor off road I hated them. What you think!? Please help.
@@EverySingleSunday How about for longevity? I’d be tickled pink if I could get 3-5k out of the Missions. I don’t ever plan on bringing tire pressure down either. Think it’s possible to get that mileage with the Missions?
These Dunlops are not 50/50 like Tkc80 or anakee wild. 70/30 is more it. Compare them to previously mentioned in the loose or wet loose stuff and let us know:)
I didn’t name them 50/50…. Dunlop did. And they have since moved them to a 40% tire offroad since the release of the Raid. I know they aren’t good in loose stuff. As for wet, it doesn’t rain where I live
@@EverySingleSunday after riding them for a very long time, on a T7, front 27psi, rear 32 psi seems to be a sweet spot. Over 9k miles later they are wearing nice and even. Blew out a fork seal on a rock, didn’t pinch flat or bend the rim. Traction on dirt is perceivably better and no on road handling problems.
They are not 50/50 they can’t handle wet stuff and turn into slicks. Great street and mild offroad. Momentum is your friend regardless of your tire choice.
They are listed as a 50/50 tire. And I fee They work better than most 50/50 tires for off-road riding And yes. In mud or snow or something like that they would be absolutely terrible
Funny. I manage to ride them everywhere in Colorado on Tiger Rally Pro... Alpine Loop, Mosquito Pass, Red Cone...sand. Not great in mud but I get through red tack fine. Got 10,000 on last set. TKCs I got 3500.
@@markjacobs3956 They definitely are hard enough to give you extended mileage I had a set on my 1190 thought they’d work on my 890 and I ride some really gnarly stuff and they are just total slicks and I’ve been racing Enduro’s for 40 years with a few hair scrambles mixed in
@@ApexMolester I ride mostly rock, talus, baby heads, mild sand and a little mud. Just fine for 99% of surfaces for 99% of riders. They're not for you level A pros for sure. I've only been riding trials and srams since 1975, started on a TY then Ossa's and old RM250 in vintage races now. I've got much to learn from guys like you...
Basically what I got out of this video was that the Missions work ok on dirt. What was not explained in the video was why I would want to replace the knobbies on my adventure bike with missions in the first place. According to the video, there was nothing that missions did better than your 606’s, so why bother?
Well, most guys running a knobby don’t go for a 50/50 tire. A 606 rear will last me maybe 1000 miles vs these will last 8000 or so They are also hands down better on asphalt but I didn’t mention that because there’s a million reviews of 50/50 tires in the road This was just a video showing that they can work off-road
@@EverySingleSunday - thanks for the video - I really enjoyed it. but the reason for the question was because in my experience, almost all 50/50 videos focus on their off-road performance, and hardly mention asphalt performance. So the what I want from a 50/50 tire video is to know how much better they work on asphalt + how they work on dirt, so I can gauge if it is worth giving up a little on dirt to gain what the tire has to offer on asphalt. So maybe I am an unusual video consumer, but for me the dirt story is only half the story, and gives me no reason to switch to missions on my adventure bike. But thanks to your reply, 8000 miles vs 1000 is one good reason. And "hands down better on asphalt" is less compelling because of it's vagueness, but still another reason. Thanks for the reply, and I really enjoyed the video, but not just for the tire part, but also because I like how it showed what an adventure bike can do in the dirt. Cheers
@@tecdive8045 Thanks so much for the feedback on what you’re looking for. I truly appreciate it and will take it into account on the next one I put together 😊
@@EverySingleSunday I have 9k mikes on a set and I’m confident I’ll get 12k before I change them out for a new set of the same tires. Did the Utah, AZ and NM BDR and a small part of the colorado BDR on a T7. It’s really strange to ride for months and thousands of miles on the same tires. You become very attuned to their strengths and weaknesses. They are sketch in deep soft sand and dangerous in mud. Everything else, they can handle.
@@EverySingleSunday I thought that might have been what it was. Glad to hear I'm not going crazy. Good video. Made me want a set of these on my Africa Twin
I just installed a set on my DR650. Can't wait to try it in the dirt. Did about 50 miles on some curvy roads today and they hold well. They do tend to follow seams, but no biggie. I made my rims tubeless by caulking the spokes with 3M 5200 caulk, drilling the valve stem hole to 11.3mm, and installing a right angle tubeless valve stem. So far so good.
I run these tires on my 17 Honda AT. Right out of the gate I did the same thing. Ran to my local OHV park and tested them. Hauled 85 mph the entire way and ripped up the hills all over the park like I was on my XR400. I also run carve mountain twisties like I am on my old supermoto bike. I have absolutely no complaints after about 6k of all types of riding. I do agree the soft stuff is it's nemesis but what do you expect from a street tire? For the average ADV rider it's a great tire. Great on the roads and great down the dirt road to camp. I'm sold on them for sure.
They are a special tire that can do it all. It still blows my mind that a tire like this works so well Offroad
I've also AT1100 in need of new tyres! I like the reviews on the missions! But there heavy! I like the thought of either avon Trec or track or the tck70 rocks paired with ax41 front! I mostly ride road, but need a good tyre for a heavy bike with a heavy rider who has no skills off road!!
Watched this on the other channel but watched it again and gave it a big 👍🏻. Love to hear the big bike growl off road. If you don’t fail at something, you never find the true limit!
Thanks Mark. Everything will be posted here going forward
Thanks for all the support
This is the review we need for tyres like this! I was contemplating putting 40/60s or 50/50s on my Himalayan but I think this sells the Trailmax Missions for me. I am unfortunately in a country where we don't really get to ride off road, so realistically this is probably spot on for me.
Thanks mate. Have fun and enjoy
I can't believe you gave up so easy. Pressure down in the sand mate. It wasn't the tyre, it was the bike settings and rider. The bike should have been sitting there spinning the wheel if it was the tyre. The bike just bogged down and stalled. 35psi is way too much pressure but shows how good these tyres are. 20psi max on the rear tyre in the loose sand. Great review and great riding. Enjoyed the video mate. Cheers
You should come check out this hill sometime in person :)
Look up my other video on my T7 vs the widowmaker hillclimb, it shows that hill better. We spend about an hour here this day and it wouldn’t go at any pressure.
But… I would love to see some do it on a 50/50 tire on an adventure bike.
Yamaha Tenere 700 -VS- Huge HillClimb
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@@EverySingleSunday it's good to know you gave it heaps. I'll check out the others. Cheers
I recently bought a V-Strom 650 for a tourer. It needed tires immediately, and I'm hoping to eventually try some bdr type stuff. So far, I've got about 5,000 street miles on these, and they barely look worn in at all.
Not too much power on the V-Strom, so they may last me a couple summers.
I was definitely excited to see you put them on two of the best middleweights available right now. Thanks so much.
Glad they are working for you. For a50-50 they are leading the way. Thanks for the solid feedback on the vidoe
Great video! Thanks. i just got these yesterday for my new Tiger 900 Rally Pro.
Thanks so much. Enjoy the new tires and have fun
Definitely looks like a good tire for those that don't do hardcore off-road riding on their adventure bikes.
It’s what I run for my day to day stuff. My other set of wheels have knobby tires for when it’s time to have some fun :)
I run them on everything in Colorado. Mosquito Pass to Alpine loop to 85 mph on I -70. Mud is the only issue but it is for nobs too most the time.
Just a point of interest! I have been riding and racing for 40 years! I have been watching your videos for a bit! When getting off your bike put the side stand down first! That way you want pull the bike down on top of you! Especially when you have stuff one the back of the seat!
I see the adv guys do it but I’ve also seen kickstaands bend / break and have heard horror stories or engine cases that they mount to breakup off. I’ll keep throwing a leg over like my little bikes for now until I get a lot older and more broken. I do appreciate the advice though
@Every Single Sunday No you don't want to put weight on the side stand! You can break it! I lean it over and swing my leg over! Don't stand up on the pegs and get off! You will break ot bend it!
These videos are great! I am glad your keeping them alive on your ESS channel! Keep the content coming!
Thanks so much 🤙
Great real life review! I considered this tire but ultimately went with the Mitas E07+ and pretty happy. Sure wish we had riding areas like that here in Ontario Canada!
So many great tire to choose from. And yes, some killer stuff in SoCal for riding year round
I'm glad you got these tires for free because this was a hell of an advert for them. They're incredibly impressive tires. They look so street oriented but you proved they do better in the dirt than they have any right to really. Great video
They are definitely a good tire and I would buy them again.
@@EverySingleSunday when my new bike arrives I'll see how the Pirelli STRs are but I'll eventually give these a go
Great video review @everysinglesunday. I had these on my Desert Sled and they were really fun, and very long lasting - some GS riders are reporting up to 8k miles on rears.
The one issue I found with them is they are bias-ply construction, making them heavy and stiff AF. Due to the geometry / weight of the Sled it threw off the high speed stability, and I would get sketchy head shake on the hwy, esp. under heavy acceleration or heavy turbulence from vehicles / cross-winds. I didn’t have that issue w/ the stock Pirelli STRs. The Sled does not have a steering stabilizer, so I ended up tuning out the head shake by softening up the front suspension and stiffening the rear suspension to get more load up front. Probably solved 80-90% of the shake problem.
The other thing I noticed is the handling felt different. Not necessarily a problem, but took some time to get used to and it could handle all sorts of road conditions w/o issues. Again, I think it is because they’re heavier/stiffer being bias-ply, and the Sled has wide tires, 120 up front and 170 in the rear.
Otherwise a great product from Dunlop, great for adv 50/50 riding.
@@sheelkapur hey thank you, that's good to know!
Excellent, thorough review of these tires. I am running a set on a 2012 R1200GS and find them an excellent overall tire. I have had some “moments” in muddy sections but not much drama elsewhere.
I would agree with that.
If it gets sticky or slimy it goes south fast. If there’s traction it will definitely go
What kind of mileage are you getting on larger bike?
@@darrylmoffett8323 - 8K+ miles on the back and over 10k miles on the front.
The Missions last a long time, but not great in deep sand/ deep mud.
Run them on my DL1000XAL8. 8000 miles, rear looks half gone, front about 2/3's gone and starting to scallop.
I'm expecting 10,000 miles on front, 12,000 miles rear.
Haven't been riding, separated a should and hurt my rotor cuff, then broke a finger left hand, then sprained the right wrist and left knee, and it's just taking a lot of time to heal. Next year.
Next set will be the Raids. Hoping they last a long time. Kind of hope you guys give them a try before I buy them 🙂
Great video! Always wondered how good those type of tires are off road. 🔥💪
Had to jump in quick to be 1st. Still watching. 👀
They work well as long as you keep moving and it’s not too loose. I’m a big fan
Part of it is being the lead dog but Nate is really good at picking lines
He’s a great rider on this and on his small bike.
I've been looking for a tire to replace the TKC80 that came on my 890R. Turns out, I'm spending a lot more time on the road than I thought I would. Being in San Diego, there's gates on every fire road in the county it seems. And pretty much every place you could ride off road is closed now. Except for the 2 OHV areas out east. These tires might be a good choice. I like the TKC, but it's got a pretty short lifespan.
I’ve ridden these at McCain and Corral Canyon. They work great on road and are just fine for SoCal dirt in most places
I’d take these over the 80s for what I ride most days. If I go for real off-road I’ll take a full knobby and skip the 80s
good job was scared on my 500 cant imagine going up on those bikes ✌✌
Thanks man. We’ve been riding for years on some pretty wild stuff so this isn’t too bad for us. Have fun and get after it!
Can’t believe some of those hills you did on those tires!
It blows my mind where they will go, especially at 35 PSI
Never realized I lived so close to you guys. LOL
Not sure if you mean Temecula, Oak Hills, or Big Bear.
I really enjoy your videos and would love to see you review the Motoz RallZ.
I’m down with a broken leg/ ankle right now but when I’m back in a few months that may happen. I’ve been taking with them about it
Their the input 🤘
Great street tire works well on dirt light sand mud gravel. Not so great on deep sand gravel and Oklahoma mud. They are on my V85 now tractionator adv go on when I get serious about trail riding. Defiantly had to slow down on the trailmax.
Ya, each tire is a bit different and excels at different stuff. This video was just to see what we could tackle on the tire and how sketchy it was to do so
Just put my second set on my Tiger Rally Pro after 10,000 miles 50-50 in Colorado. I won't run anything else.
They are definitely a special tire. The only 50/50 I put on my bikes
I just got these yesterday for my new Tiger RP also.
Have a set of these I keep around for the T7. Fantastic multipurpose tire provided you keep your brain engaged around soft muck. Better than I was expecting.
Only sad part is, confirmed by Dunlop Engineering, the 150/70-18 has the center strip for lug reinforcement on "big power" bikes that typically use that size. Funny since the 17" on the GS1250 doesn't 🤣
Otherwise the Missions I give people as the go-to dualsport tire these days unless they plan on getting really into dirt.
Sucky part is once you wear them down that strip is no fun. Tire cutter seems to be the go-to on ADVRider.
Otherwise I run around on a Motoz DV front and ADV rear. Might try the smaller width Tube DV next time. The TL still gets into highspeed wobbles on the T7 (85+). Better than the Rallz though.
They definitely aren’t the best off-road tire but I’m happy to join my weekly Wednesday night DS ride using these
Feel safe enough that I don’t need to swap my knobbies on unless we’re getting crazy
Amazing terrain im jealous on those huge open spaces u have in america
They are amazingly
Solid tire! Thanks for the review.
Much appreciated
Sketch five thousand - good on ya for the effort. That's a bunch of weight going up those hills - not for the timid.
Sometimes you’re just along got the ride :)
Great video and review, though I'm feeling an odd sense of deja vu...😉🙃
I had posted it on another page that I was working with previously
My balls are sweating just by watching you guys!!! Damn!!! Balls of steel! Too bad we can't get these tires in our country, been searching and only option is to import!
I’m sure there are some other great options out there. Have fun and enjoy the ride
U guys r so skilled. U grow up riding dirt bikes is my guess.
You nailed it. We all still race and ride hard enduro so the bikes are just bigger and heavier than the small ones. The skills transfer over very well. These big bikes are intimidating for sure on some terrain
I got the Motoz Rallz on my 890 adv r. Very noisy on the road especially if you are using low pressure. In fact with the pressure too low (20-25) i broke bead on the front bashing over logs. I think it's quieter and all most as good traction a little over 30 psi. This tire is dangerous at speeds over 100 mph.
Those Rallyz are fantastic tires but definitely a bit scary on asphalt. 2 completely different tires for sure
Great video guys extreme riding,can i ask,how did you feel the weight of the tires??they say its the heaviest
They are definitely the heaviest on the scale but I do not feel them on the bike at all
For this category of tire, these are by far my favorite and I have written a lot of different ones
Good riding!
Thanks man. I love this stuff.
T7 better off road then the KTM ? I’m really thinking about a T7 or maybe duel sport to add to my collection
I think in the more technical stuff the T7 is better and easier to ride. But I prefer the 890 over the T7 as a whole
Have you tried airing them down from 35psi? I ran mine at 20psi and it made a world of difference off road.
Yes, I have
Look for this test I wanted to have them at a Street pressure because not everybody airs down
Normally, I have a knobby on the bike with around 25 psi for off-road
Thats insanely high pressures, i wouldn't go even on gravel with more than 2bars ;
Mixed riding 1.7, mostly off 1.5, hard off 1.0,
Road only 1.8-1.9
I wanted to ride them as I would if it was most prop who wouldn’t air down.
Yes they could have been better if dropped but so many are scared to drop down. It’s silly
Appreciate the review! I agree with the fact that a bike looks kinda weird with those tires and I prefer a knobby tire on my ADV bike too. That said, do you have a recommendation on a knobby 50/50 that performs as good or better as the Missions?
The Michelin Anake Wild is a great tire. Works decent onroad and is better offroad than these. It’s not a knobbs but looks kinda aggressive
@@EverySingleSunday I have just recently completed a trip across Australia, west to east and return, on a set of MITAS EO7+ tyres, nearly 10,000 km and still plenty left in them. Planned off road enroute had to be curtailed due to sudden time constraints, but they have survived the summer heat of the Nullarbor crossing on my SuperTenere well. Will use a set again on my next crossing on my T7. I have tried the Anake Wilds on my T7 but they just don't have the endurance of the Mitas EO7+.
I know you say they’re street tires, but believe it or not it’s more a dirt tire that does well on the street. I think these tires are bad ass for the adventure rider that does pavement and hits the fire roads etc, you can’t beat it.
It’s definitely a good tire for an adventure rider who doesn’t do much dirt. But compared to a real dirt tire it lacks a lot. I love it because i keep this set in my street wheels and a set of knobbies on my other set of wheels.
@@EverySingleSunday great video. I have a second set of wheels also. Do you think these would be good for my 501?
@@marklundeen1025 if you’re looking for a good street tire that can do some light off-road they definitely will do it. But if you’re looking for more of a dual sport tire to do BDR style rides I’d go with something a little knobbier.
@@EverySingleSunday thanks
I wonder if the E-07+ would make it up the widow maker? For me it's a toss up between the 7's and trailmax.
With the right bike and rider I’m sure it would. It definitely has a deeper tread for more drive. The new Dunlop Trailmax off-road or what’s it is called looks great as well
Sweet Datsun 510!
Thanks man
On the street, were they noisy? How was the wear/mileage. The two of you will be much harder than I would be these tires. My goal is to travel yet hit fire roads, with my gear. Ride safe and have fun. 🇺🇸
To me, they are fantastic on the street. They seem quiet and I trust them in the corners.
But I’m also not someone who spends a lot of time on the street so I can’t compare them to how most Street Tires behave
I have heard from others that they get 7 to 10,000 miles of street use but I took them off well before that
Nice to see this tire can do this...obviously assuming that the rider is capable.
Can you tell where this was filmed, somewhere in Socal?
It was filmed coming from oak hill up to big bear
This why I love adventure bikes - NOPE not taking the VAN.
No need…. Just going to send it
Have you tried the Motoz Rallz? Curious on how these TrailMax Missions front would handle with the Rallz rear. (T7)
The Rallz is a completely different tire. I have a set going on next week for a trip to Colorado. I wouldn’t do this tire with a more aggressive rear as it’ll feel very odd / dangerous if you ever get offroad.
on dry you can get away even with street tyres.
If it was a perfectly clean section, maybe. I wouldn’t want to try it, especially downhill
Hope the leg is healing well !!
Better every day !
Liked them for "tourist" gravel like Assieta. But on real rocky stuf, I missed the knobs :)
Definitely not as good as a knobby in the dirt. But they can do it if needed
Bought a DR with the Dunlop on the front...lots of glacier till around here. The Dunlop does not inspire confidence in that type of terrain...getting there is fine. Rallz on the back so it wants to push the front...
It’s definitely not a knobby but works well in some situations. If you don’t like it , pull it off asap. Have fun 🤩
So I just bought a set of motoz tractionator GPS, but I love watching and learning about others experiences with different tires. Always doing homework for the next set/mod.
I have a question for you. I hate changing tires on the floor. And I was just looking at a few different tire changers. I saw one for cheap at harbor freight that looked really similar to the one that you were using. How do you like it? And what brand is it?
Thanks for the video!
If you are using air in your tires. Hop over to DirtBikeTV website and email Jay for his tire stand drawing and have someone build one for you if you can’t weld yourself. His is the best stand for tires with air
How would these compare to the Dunlop D605’s?
I have a DR650 with D605’s. Love it off road but I do a lot of highway/commuting to work 40 miles round trip also and they get a little buzzy 65 plus. They are about 60% dead with 1,700 miles on em.
Debating if I should get the Missions as I’m not to crazy off road and want to be more comfortable on highway/ decent off road with single track very sparingly.
I can’t go back to the trailwings even though great on highway. Piss poor off road I hated them.
What you think!? Please help.
Mission will be better onroad. The 605 is probably close for hardpack off-road to these. The 605 is probably better offroad if the terrain gets loose
@@EverySingleSunday How about for longevity? I’d be tickled pink if I could get 3-5k out of the Missions. I don’t ever plan on bringing tire pressure down either. Think it’s possible to get that mileage with the Missions?
Great vid as always ! What psi you run ? Thanks !
We ran 35 all day 😂
@@EverySingleSunday LOL ! Perfect Thanks brotha
Did you guys balance the wheels ? if not did they show any signs of un-balance on the road?
We did not
Slight vibrations at 90+ but not bad on my 790
Not sure about the T7 be he didn’t mention anything
Does the T7 have suspension work?
No, it was bike stock. I have a whole video on that bike and the setup I did on it
i can see this hill from my place, locally its monster hill, im oak hills, that sand is san andreas byproduct that created baldy mesa
Good area to live if you ride. My buddy Nate lives in Oakhills as well
sweet 510
❤️
These Dunlops are not 50/50 like Tkc80 or anakee wild. 70/30 is more it. Compare them to previously mentioned in the loose or wet loose stuff and let us know:)
I didn’t name them 50/50…. Dunlop did. And they have since moved them to a 40% tire offroad since the release of the Raid.
I know they aren’t good in loose stuff. As for wet, it doesn’t rain where I live
@@EverySingleSunday I know Dunlop named them 50/50 and its just misleading imho
Dang that's a steep hill
A good time for sure. I have another video on my T700 climbing it with a knobby. Good drone shots and stuff if your interested
35 PSI ? Isn't that a lot for that sandy stuff ?
It’s what we run on road. Most guys don’t air down so I didn’t want to
@@EverySingleSunday after riding them for a very long time, on a T7, front 27psi, rear 32 psi seems to be a sweet spot. Over 9k miles later they are wearing nice and even. Blew out a fork seal on a rock, didn’t pinch flat or bend the rim. Traction on dirt is perceivably better and no on road handling problems.
They are not 50/50 they can’t handle wet stuff and turn into slicks. Great street and mild offroad.
Momentum is your friend regardless of your tire choice.
They are listed as a 50/50 tire. And I fee
They work better than most 50/50 tires for off-road riding
And yes. In mud or snow or something like that they would be absolutely terrible
Funny. I manage to ride them everywhere in Colorado on Tiger Rally Pro... Alpine Loop, Mosquito Pass, Red Cone...sand. Not great in mud but I get through red tack fine. Got 10,000 on last set. TKCs I got 3500.
@@markjacobs3956 They definitely are hard enough to give you extended mileage I had a set on my 1190 thought they’d work on my 890 and I ride some really gnarly stuff and they are just total slicks and I’ve been racing Enduro’s for 40 years with a few hair scrambles mixed in
@@ApexMolester I ride mostly rock, talus, baby heads, mild sand and a little mud. Just fine for 99% of surfaces for 99% of riders. They're not for you level A pros for sure. I've only been riding trials and srams since 1975, started on a TY then Ossa's and old RM250 in vintage races now. I've got much to learn from guys like you...
Basically what I got out of this video was that the Missions work ok on dirt. What was not explained in the video was why I would want to replace the knobbies on my adventure bike with missions in the first place. According to the video, there was nothing that missions did better than your 606’s, so why bother?
Well, most guys running a knobby don’t go for a 50/50 tire. A 606 rear will last me maybe 1000 miles vs these will last 8000 or so
They are also hands down better on asphalt but I didn’t mention that because there’s a million reviews of 50/50 tires in the road
This was just a video showing that they can work off-road
@@EverySingleSunday - thanks for the video - I really enjoyed it. but the reason for the question was because in my experience, almost all 50/50 videos focus on their off-road performance, and hardly mention asphalt performance. So the what I want from a 50/50 tire video is to know how much better they work on asphalt + how they work on dirt, so I can gauge if it is worth giving up a little on dirt to gain what the tire has to offer on asphalt. So maybe I am an unusual video consumer, but for me the dirt story is only half the story, and gives me no reason to switch to missions on my adventure bike. But thanks to your reply, 8000 miles vs 1000 is one good reason. And "hands down better on asphalt" is less compelling because of it's vagueness, but still another reason. Thanks for the reply, and I really enjoyed the video, but not just for the tire part, but also because I like how it showed what an adventure bike can do in the dirt. Cheers
@@tecdive8045 Thanks so much for the feedback on what you’re looking for. I truly appreciate it and will take it into account on the next one I put together 😊
@@EverySingleSunday I have 9k mikes on a set and I’m confident I’ll get 12k before I change them out for a new set of the same tires. Did the Utah, AZ and NM BDR and a small part of the colorado BDR on a T7. It’s really strange to ride for months and thousands of miles on the same tires. You become very attuned to their strengths and weaknesses. They are sketch in deep soft sand and dangerous in mud. Everything else, they can handle.
Didn't you already upload this? I've watched this before
When I was working with a different company I had uploaded it on their page. But haven’t ever had it here
@@EverySingleSunday I thought that might have been what it was. Glad to hear I'm not going crazy. Good video. Made me want a set of these on my Africa Twin
Don't look like 50/50 more 20 30/ 80 70 tire.
Just going by what’s it’s classified as by Dunlop
Where you at in this video?
Big Bear CA area
@@EverySingleSunday getting ready to move back to SoCal, but into Hemet. Big Bear wouldn’t be that far of a ride😉
Nice ride up through Idlewild into the backside of big bear
We do that exact ride in my continental tire test video
I just installed a set on my DR650. Can't wait to try it in the dirt. Did about 50 miles on some curvy roads today and they hold well. They do tend to follow seams, but no biggie. I made my rims tubeless by caulking the spokes with 3M 5200 caulk, drilling the valve stem hole to 11.3mm, and installing a right angle tubeless valve stem. So far so good.
Very cool you were able to convert them. They aren’t the best in dirt but do work. Be safe and have fun