Hi sam great review, I have the same model, the reason hornby don't connect the fans anymore is because the the belts were causing motor damage, so instead of modifying it they left them off 🧐👍
Sounds like what happened here in America with the early mark I Proto 2000 locomotives, the FA-2's. These had a fan that was driven off the flywheel by a belt, just like the Hornby model. These models had the same issues were the fan would have a major impact on the locomotives ability to run smooth, especially at low speeds. When the second DCC ready mark II's came out, the belt driven fans were NOT present.
Yeah that's right - except they didn't retool it, they just stopped fitting the mechanism - still very shoddy in my book - how difficult can it be to design fans that work?! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Some of Hornbys diesels over the past few years have been great. I got a class 50 7ish years ago and a 31 5ish years ago and they both are super heavy, have moving fans, opening doors, good mechanisms. You should definetly review some more!
@@taylorshaw8000 no actually. It costs around $15. And that is usually offset by the fact that you don't have to pay VAT. It can be expensive to send it back if there is an issue.
Hattons has a virtual trunk you can add items to and it will hold your order until complete esp if something you want is backordered or will be restocked soon.
Makes you wonder who had the idea to remove the mechanism for it. Like, if you are going to have fans that can move, either have the mechanism for them, or don't have moving fans at all. Edit: Ok, so apparently the fan mechanism was removed as it damaged the motor supposedly. But still...
@@DugmerJunction The working fans are a p in the neck. Better off removing the drive belt is the best option. They often jam up and put stress on the motor.
It's a lovely model, no doubt. An absolute unit on my layout with the power to haul every single bit of rolling stock unaided. I hope Hornby can bring it's lovely turbo whistle to TTS sound like they did for the exclusive Digital Sound version. If they can do it for the Class 31 and Class 50 they surely can for the 56. Side note. Mine, a Railfreight model, has working fans and it's still very smooth. You might want to contact the seller about them being disconnected. Either way there should be a spare to get them working again so don't lose hope just yet Sam!
haha yeah I can easily imagine that! A tts version would certainly be amazing! Glad to hear your fans work - supposedly they're all removed now due to unreliability! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Just this once Sam as a one off, maybe in your next review include the added details in the detail pack to the model, would be awesome to see what it looks like with them all fitted
I was an electrician involved I the manufacture of the real life class 56 and these bring back memories. If memory serves me right some were imported from Romania and were rubbish so needed some attention.
Hi Sam, after watching this video i got my hands on this lovely loco, that was over a year ago now, superb livery in my opinion, maybe a micro core-less motor could be fitted to drive the fans, mocking up a motor holder on your 3D printer could help out, thanks for sharing.
These were regular performers on mgr trains from new in my neck of the woods and I remember seeing the rolling chassis body frame of a brand new one parked opposite the gates at Doncaster works when they were being constructed, the Romanian electroputer built ones had loads of problems and virtually had to be stripped and rebuilt once they got to the uk, very distinct sound and very powerful loco’s, for me the front lights were the most distinctive feature , the 56 deserves a sound module , large logo blue gets my vote as that is how I remember them , maybe the fan belt (lol) is available as a spare part
Sam the fan mechanism was removed from the later models because it caused running issues and this is also true with other locomotives like the 31 and the 50
Even as a man who would more often than not pick steam over diesel I do like this model. I hear from other comments that there was an issue with the fans so hopefully when they eventually update the model we will see moving fans that don’t mess around with the loco’s performance! That would certainly make for a good upgrade!
As a teenager I remember the first of these arriving at Harwich off the train ferry (they were built in Romania from memory.) They were left on the quayside which the public had access to so I managed to get up in the cab for a look. 😉
I may not have any model trains but it would be a dream but it's ok because I get to see my favorite UA-camr sam look over them so sooner or later I know witch one are good or bad ! Thank you Sam for making my day and other's.
Surely getting those fans to work (reliably) is a must try project now? I think picking up a little micro motor and some suitable plastic gears, it looks like there is enough space to make it work. It'd need to be dcc'd so a steady suitable voltage could be provided to the fan motor, but that's pretty easy.
The detail on this loco is incredible. I love etched grilles and seeing details like fans and bracing behind them. I've seen some molded-in grilles that try that effect, with varying degrees of success, but none match etched parts for realism. Regarding the square, printed patches on the cab ends: On the class 56, the airhorns were mounted behind grilles on the cab ends. Those little circles I assume are the horn bells. It's those grilles that gave the class 56s the nicknames "Gridirons" and "Grids."
Hi Sam, The only other loco with moving fans is the Hornby Class 50. The fans on mine were very hit & miss, the drive system is a very heath robinson affair, relying on friction to move the single fan. The prototypes, were a type 5 over a class 47 that was only a type 4. Often known as "Tynsley HSTs" as the had the same power unit as the HST. They had a max speed of 80 mph, class 47's ranged between 75 mph (freight) & 100mph (47/7 Scotrail locos) most were rated at 90 mph. The Dapol/Hornby 56 was originally an Airfix Mainline model.... The 56, was one of the first air fitted only locos for BR, along with the 58 & 60, 47's were originally duel fitted (air & vacuum) in later years some 47's had the vacuum system removed. Used to work on them from Old Oak Common on the Brentford to Appleford Thames Waste trains. They could pull 20 loaded container flats at 75 mph without breaking a sweat. Great video!
Thanks a lot for sharing mate, yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD Appreciate all the info! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have 2 of these Hornby class 56's from when they released and I have had no problems with the fans and build quality. On my ones the fans are different, they are actually linked to the motor and DCC pin socket as working cooling. So I take it Hornby kept downgrading as time went on 🤨? Good video Sam, I agree about the astonishing details, back then they were so much better. Hornby just don't get the point about model trains anymore 😐. Things always seem to be made cheaper now days 🙁. Kindest regards to you.
What a performer! If those Bachmann coaches were 1:1 scale, boy you'd soon get travel sickness! For a 13 yr old design superb. All of your reviews are top notch, Sam plus they're 100% honest!
I agree! haha you certainly would - they wobble all over the place! Thanks so much - it's worth being honest when people actually notice!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Great review Sam,😊I have hornbys class 31, 50 and 56 with the working fans, I’ve had no problem with any of them, shame hornby ended dropping it cus it does look good.
i don't have any experience with these mechanisms but wouldn't the belt drive since it is being driven by the driving motor cause extra drag and therefore have an impact in preformance??
Yes supposedly that's why - pretty embarrassing for them though isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hey Sam. The Hornby 50's had turning fans too. They were causing lots of problems with bands snapping and pinging around in the mechanism. If they were stiff fans then they affected the flywheel efficiency so they've been ditched in favour of better performance and reliability. As you said the less its opened the better.
Thanks for the info mate, yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The class 47 was a bit quicker than the 56 most of the time, 95 MPH for the 47 and 80 MPH for the 56. However 47s used for secondary duties were told to run at a maximum of 75 MPH as once the tyres had worn down beyond a certain point they couldn’t deal with the heat build up from stopping at 95 MPH.
I think that Hornby removing the fan mechanism was a good thing. I've heard from other UA-camrs that their locos with driven fans that fan caused the loco to perform poorly and after a while and they just disconnected it.
Nice loco! I believe the odd one out is the Sentinel I noticed on the track at the end of the video (26:44 is where I saw it) as I believe that Sentinel is a steam engine and not a diesel like the others on the layout.
BRILLIANT video Sam. It's the first time I have seen a BRUSH TYPE 4 on your layout, you made my day in more ways than one i love those LOCOMOTIVES ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ but getting to the point the GRID class 56 ( hauling Southern coaches i ♥️🤩♥️ that ) you reviewed is stunning, mind blowing. Absolutely gorgeous. It's when you see a engine like that you got to ask yourself when can i own a couple. I believe Hornby are producing a blue Doncaster built machine and they are DEFINITELY on my list. Thank you Sam 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🐖🚄🚅
Thanks so much Mark, yeah I really loved this one too - amazing mind blowing model as you say!! Ooh that does sound very tempting :3 Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Absolutely - I've never seen opening doors before in OO - but sadly they've downgraded the fans so they no longer spin - cross about that :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains hornby think are the only company in 00 to make the fans spin i know the hornby 50 fans spin as well as the 60 was a shame that hornby disengaged it Also I think hornby are the only company to make the doors open the class 43 50 60 and 56 and I think other diesels and electrics where the doors open
Hi Sam. Watched again your video. Now have two Class 56s, DCR, which was £99 from a dealer and Railfreight 56040, from Facebook Group. The latter has working fans, with no problems.
I have one with moving fans , took apart twice still screeches terribly everything back as it should be perfectly cleaned and oiled as well.......propshafts have jumped out as well even after clicking in nicely !
Definitely one of Hornby's best. I've an older super detail EWS one - with working fans! Many actually complained about the fans, saying they restricted the performance - I've not noticed that on mine. Yours has light plugs / sockets - mine has wipers / contacts. I got mine 'used' off Hattons with 'faulty lights'. A little tinkering and it became an £80 bargain!! You've now got to try a Hornby Super Detail Class 60, if you haven't already - at least as good ... Al.
Thanks a lot Alan - yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD Glad to hear yours works properly - wonder why they changed the light contacts then?!? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Hi Sam, the light contacts are known not for unreliability, but basically for clumsy handling of those removing and replacing the bodies - the contact fingers are quite critical in their location. Some even 'hard-wire with micro-connectors'. Mine's working so I'm happy - and it's a beast!!
If the fans were belt-driven, wouldn't be surprised if Hornby removed the belt due to issues with the belts breaking. Would make sense with how hard the body is to take off. I will admit, I'm definitely a bigger fan of diesel than steam, even in modelling, though that might be due to growing up with diesels IRL over here in the US. BTW, if you want to look at more American diesels, I highly recommend a ScaleTrains model if you can get your hands on one. The one I have is quite detailed, and, IMHO, runs quite well. Feels quite chunky too.
Hi Sam wonderful video of class 56. I have almost six class 56 locomotive all having moving fans. Infect that was the reason i bought these class 56. i know these fan causes issue with motor but that was not a problem for me. therefore i bought these locos.
Looks a great loco to buy, I used to own an original Hornby one with a "Ringfield motor" but of course not with the level of detail. On an email from Hatton's it states "Working roof fans" are they incorrect or is it just yours that has the " missing part" The only part that puts me a off a bit is your experience with the lighting plug which I have to disconnect in order to fit a DCC decoder for my layout. What a very good review with honest comments, keep it up Sam.
Thanks mate! Yes I'm familiar with those - still great looking models! I think that must have been incorrect - apparently Hornby removed the fan mechanism from all recent examples! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam I think the reason that I think the fans were not linked to the fly wheel of the motor is that the band for the fans would put the motor under stress and make the motor get hot and burn out. And would lower the performance of the loco thats the only reason I can think that's the reason why there not working. With regards of the way the head and tail lights are connected what the hell thats the most shoddy work I've seen on a modern realised loco and I agree with you it should be done by pins. Rant over lol. Great video as always look forward to your next video. Peter from Birmingham
Thanks Peter, yes others have said this too - still a shame - how hard can it be to animate little fans like that?! Couldn't believe those plugs... and the way they fell to pieces! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have an early Hornby class 56 .that does have working fans. One of my Favourite locos However it has had a serious issue. That is the wiring from the pick up's to the main board. after some time becomes detached It was sent ba c k to Hornby for repair, which they did, no charge, including replacing one set of bodies. It came back working perfectly. But after some time, the same problem re-occured. I have a Hornby Class 60, that doesn't have the same problem
Nice review, Sam. As others have pointed out, the mechanism for the spinning fans was removed from the class 56s due to them having performance problems with them connected. I've also removed this from my own 56s that did have it, and performance improved tenfold! To be fair though, I think it's more of a gimmick on the models really, as their operation wouldn't be prototypical anyhow. Other issues of the 56s are coupler arm dragging off the first vehicle of a rake, and lighting contacts being dubious on early examples. Other than that, the 56s are superb models. Cheers, Caz.
Thanks Caz, yes sounds like it's for the best this doesn't have it - might try to design my own mechanism for it though! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have the older hornby class 56 in trans rail livery, which had lights and a driver, that was in the range before they brought this newer model out. I have one issue though the molded front coupling bar snapped and I now require a new or second hand bogie molding to repair it as it's the go to loco to used for my track cleaning train due to its power.
The older 56’s are still good like the newer class 56’s, but the newer one is annoying on how they disabled the rotating fan. I do own a older hornby 56 which was 56095 Harworth Colliery (Coal Sector Livery) with the old 21 pin DCC sound before TTS and the new 56 has a better advantage over the older hornby 2008/2011 class 56’s, because there are wires that connect the lights now which is nice in the newer 56 but the older 56 models that use metal contacts were plagued with defects and mine was unfortunately one of them. with none working lights on one side and only one of the front lights work. But that newer 56 is Still a good model thats for a £121, it now has my attention to purchase one. Thanks for this review sam! 😁
Thanks mate! Yeah it is pretty annoying - thanks for sharing all of this, yes the wires are annoying... and so they couldn't get contacts right either?!?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Clearly a beautiful model which runs amazingly well. I do understand your disappointment with the roof fan but Ive not heard a good report about moving fans as they seriously affect the running performance, most reviews report they have disconnected the belt. Hence Hornby’s decision to disconnect the drive at the factory. You mentioned the grills on the ends, the circles represent the horns. Great review as always Sam.
Looks like we have a new "Grid" fan team! BTW... They were not faster Sam... 47s were generally 95 mph maximum speed with 56s limited to 80 mph. They were more powerful though. The grills on the cab front are indeed grills with the horns visible behind them. Shame they are just a print and not a real grill. Great review of my favourite loco. Cheers mukka.
A dazzling diesel indeed! (Maybe we should call poor diesels "drippy" or "drizzly" diesels?) I'd be tempted to "bodge" some small, separate DC micro-motors to turn the roof fans, could be a nice little project and extra feature to the model, some of the other comments seem to say that the belt drive system drew too much grunt from the motor. I do think if Hornby should introduce working roof fans to a newer model of this class, the better way would be to use seperate motors.
Brilliant loco. Love the colours, love the BR logo, the details, all of the above, basically. I saw some Colas Rail Class 56 locos in Cardiff. I guess some of them being rebuilt into a class 69 is better than nothing. Plus, it’s more cost effective anyway. It’s like how some Class 47 locos were converted into class 57 locos.
A wonderful model, very useful review. I normally buy only steam, but maybe, just maybe, I'll get one of these in the bright Railfreight red stripe livery like yours. Personally the static fans don't bother me, but I love the little aluminium plates below the cab doors.
17:30 The non-installation of the fan mechanism may seem like a downgrade, but I can tell you from experience that its not! It was a trend that Hornby had about 9-10 years ago to put a working fan into every loco they could. I have several of these and after a while it either breaks, burns the motor out (they were highly resistant) or started to sound awful. I know of other people who have had even worse experiences. (Including fires!) Hope that solves the mystery!
In that case, that's even embarrassing for them - fancy developing a system that *doesn't work properly* - these things should be carefully developed and tested, and should be functional when they hit the shelves! Imagine selling a TV, and having to disable features because they weren't designed properly? Insane!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam. I wonder if the fan mechanism wasn’t a conscious effort to avoid some problem, perhaps with braking belts. They just got too many complaints. Enjoyed the video and think the engine is fantastic. Especially how heavy it is and how quiet it is. Reminds me of my first loco I bought a Lifelike GP18 low hood away back in ‘91. My favourite.
hi Sam great video as always hornby stopped putting the fan mechanism in because there was a lot of complaints that it seriously effects the performance
I know Hornby had a lot of complaints about the fans interfering with the smooth running of the loco and many modellers were removing the belt . . . . :) Great review Sam.
Is that so? Surely if designed properly a mechanism like that wouldn't impact the performance much - that does sound feasible though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam. I have a class 56 and i bought mine last year and mine still has working fans and that is not on DCC. I spotted the steamer. the sentinal steamer (Molly) Great video.
I have this very model. I totally agree with your conclusions, but acknowledge the previous comment about Hornby getting rid of the working fans due to motor damage. I wish Hornby would make more Class 56 in this same scheme. I have this loco pull a rake of 36 HEA coal hoppers at shows.
Hornby probably removed the fan mechanism because it created a lot of running issues. There are a coulple of Everad Junction videos from a few years back where he mentions how badly those fans affected running. When they did have moving fans, most people snipped the belt off due to the problems it caused
haha yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
An excellent model from Hornby. I'm not a huge 56 fan (I'd rather have a 50), but I have 2 in coal sector livery and one in loadhaul, all run excellently but only the loadhaul one's lights work. One of the coal sector ones (127) has had its sound removed, and needs a lot of work doing to it, but I only paid £35 for it; the other coal sector one (095) still has sound, and I haven't yet taken the roof off to find why the lights don't work. Earlier models used the spring connectors for the lights, but these are unreliable on these locos so they obviously swapped them out for wired plug/sockets instead. Odd that they chose not to include the fan mechanism in R3473 and R3265 (in colas), but you could always retrofit the mechanism if you want. Although, some people have complained that the fan drive makes the model squeal after a bit of use (I've only had 56s for about a year, so not experienced that yet). Have to say I prefer the Railfreight grey without the red stripe on the 56s...
Nice loco there Sam ! My very detailed SLW Class 24 has a fan but doesn't turn either and to be honest I think it's for the better because it can only break down. Same as with pantographs going up and down by remote control, can only go bust ! Not so user friendly with that body removal in spite of using 4 screws which I prefer above clipping in and using a credit card to remove the body ! The loco itself should be fine certainly with DCC Sound. Cheers, Jan
Also the fans not moving may be a good thing. I’ve heard that they often cause performance issues and people often just cut the rubber bands that drive them because of that.
Sam you said you wanted to see how it was in 2007 but I think they had traction tires I think because I saw a person running one of the old ones with it so idk what would it be back at that time
Hi Sam, I've got a Hornby class 50 with a similar mechanism where the fans are concerned. However, this one came with a working fan. Although I've taken the belt off as it caused the motor to sound very unhappy. It's a shame they don't fit a separate much smaller motor, which could work off the decoder (if fitted) and could be a separate feature. Oh well. Excellent video. :)
If there's a blue one about I'm getting one because this class 56 is just what I need for my express trains and as a maintenance diesel for cleaning my tracks and I'd be putting it with one of the bachmann track cleaning break vans
Great video Sam, I bought a second hand Mainlines class 56 and it is probably one of the most realistic loco in my collection, it even has little people in the cab and it’s 56084
Sam your a clever chap. I am in sure you could fix a micro motor into that space and get the fans turning again. Then do a video about it. Keep up the good work!
I know the fans and plugs are a detractor, but she's got so many nice qualities that are really impressive. Really like the livery too. Seems like an eggshell finish. Thanks Sam. What's your mail drop address?
The original release did have fans that worked, but they are/were problematic and would often stop, causing stress on the motor and poor running issues when they decided to jam up. So not having the fans working is no big deal.
Yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I know a game you should play on your pc Sam. It’s called derail valley. It says it’s made for VR but it’s available for pc aswell. I tried it yesterday and really enjoyed it (apart from going to fast and smashing my windows when I was shunting). There are also steam locos and overall it’s just a really fun game. Great job with the vid. See you soon
Hi, have one myself great loco. The early ones had working fan powered by a band, but it caused bad running. So the new ones as you say had bits removed.
We had a 56 with wheel creep system ie electronic control of wheel slip/traction bit like a 60 rode it on test few times worked really well but they got withdrawn so never got further than one prototype . They were good loco when working right , normal one struggled bit from standstill with heavy train compared to a 60 once moving think they were as good as 60 . Model looks all correct on details to me and I have spent lots of time round them . Actually had air conditioning when new it could have been termed climate control as stat controlled heating and cooling never seen working though just remnants or AC in heater unit
Hi sam great review, I have the same model, the reason hornby don't connect the fans anymore is because the the belts were causing motor damage, so instead of modifying it they left them off 🧐👍
Agree I read that elsewhere too and my Colas 56 has no working fans either. Can't say it bothers me.
There must be some people who have got them running in other ways. It can't be too hard to wire up a micro motor in there
@@itsjustcam247 I bet it wouldn't be too difficult make the fans work with a micro motor and DCC.
Yeah I have heard that - it's all a bit of a joke isn't it? Why don't they test/design these things properly?!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
how can belts damage a motor of this size and power?
I heard the fans caused problems when running so they retooled so they took out the belt drive
Sounds like what happened here in America with the early mark I Proto 2000 locomotives, the FA-2's. These had a fan that was driven off the flywheel by a belt, just like the Hornby model. These models had the same issues were the fan would have a major impact on the locomotives ability to run smooth, especially at low speeds. When the second DCC ready mark II's came out, the belt driven fans were NOT present.
I'm not sure my one has no issues so not a new one but its from the 2000s
Yeah that's right - except they didn't retool it, they just stopped fitting the mechanism - still very shoddy in my book - how difficult can it be to design fans that work?! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Some of Hornbys diesels over the past few years have been great. I got a class 50 7ish years ago and a 31 5ish years ago and they both are super heavy, have moving fans, opening doors, good mechanisms. You should definetly review some more!
Yeah I agree - there are some lovely Hornby locos out there! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
If only I could get this in the USA. Great model and great review.
You can. Just order it from Hattons.
@@williambabcoke248 it is just really expensive to ship.
@@taylorshaw8000 no actually. It costs around $15. And that is usually offset by the fact that you don't have to pay VAT. It can be expensive to send it back if there is an issue.
Okay I might get it now thanks
Hattons has a virtual trunk you can add items to and it will hold your order until complete esp if something you want is backordered or will be restocked soon.
Hey Sam, Peter’s Spares stocks belt drive bands for the class 56 fan so if you wanted them to move you could get them to with a bit of work
That's true, it'd be a nightmare to get fitting gears for them too though :(
Sam'sTrains we ended up removing them in our sound 56. They have removed the working fans in the newer class 50’s as well
Makes you wonder who had the idea to remove the mechanism for it. Like, if you are going to have fans that can move, either have the mechanism for them, or don't have moving fans at all.
Edit: Ok, so apparently the fan mechanism was removed as it damaged the motor supposedly. But still...
@@DugmerJunction The working fans are a p in the neck. Better off removing the drive belt is the best option. They often jam up and put stress on the motor.
Mike King yeah I agree and also the can hinder the performance of the locos if not disconnected or removed
It's a lovely model, no doubt. An absolute unit on my layout with the power to haul every single bit of rolling stock unaided.
I hope Hornby can bring it's lovely turbo whistle to TTS sound like they did for the exclusive Digital Sound version. If they can do it for the Class 31 and Class 50 they surely can for the 56.
Side note. Mine, a Railfreight model, has working fans and it's still very smooth. You might want to contact the seller about them being disconnected. Either way there should be a spare to get them working again so don't lose hope just yet Sam!
haha yeah I can easily imagine that! A tts version would certainly be amazing! Glad to hear your fans work - supposedly they're all removed now due to unreliability!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Just this once Sam as a one off, maybe in your next review include the added details in the detail pack to the model, would be awesome to see what it looks like with them all fitted
haha yeah I do get asked that quite a lot - maybe some time! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I was an electrician involved I the manufacture of the real life class 56 and these bring back memories. If memory serves me right some were imported from Romania and were rubbish so needed some attention.
Thanks a lot for sharing Paul - I didn't know this! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
That cab door just blew my mind!!
I know!! And it's so neat and tidy too! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam, after watching this video i got my hands on this lovely loco, that was over a year ago now, superb livery in my opinion, maybe a micro core-less motor could be fitted to drive the fans, mocking up a motor holder on your 3D printer could help out, thanks for sharing.
These were regular performers on mgr trains from new in my neck of the woods and I remember seeing the rolling chassis body frame of a brand new one parked opposite the gates at Doncaster works when they were being constructed, the Romanian electroputer built ones had loads of problems and virtually had to be stripped and rebuilt once they got to the uk, very distinct sound and very powerful loco’s, for me the front lights were the most distinctive feature , the 56 deserves a sound module , large logo blue gets my vote as that is how I remember them , maybe the fan belt (lol) is available as a spare part
Thanks for sharing Mick, blimey that must have been a sight to see!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam the fan mechanism was removed from the later models because it caused running issues and this is also true with other locomotives like the 31 and the 50
So I've heard! How embarrassing - still totally unacceptable of course!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam'sTrains why is it unacceptable is this you saying that you would prefer gimmicks over performance?
Even as a man who would more often than not pick steam over diesel I do like this model. I hear from other comments that there was an issue with the fans so hopefully when they eventually update the model we will see moving fans that don’t mess around with the loco’s performance! That would certainly make for a good upgrade!
haha yeah me too - it just won me over! Let's hope we see a new fan mechanism in there one day! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
As a teenager I remember the first of these arriving at Harwich off the train ferry (they were built in Romania from memory.)
They were left on the quayside which the public had access to so I managed to get up in the cab for a
look. 😉
That's very interesting Gerry - you lucky bugger!! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I may not have any model trains but it would be a dream but it's ok because I get to see my favorite UA-camr sam look over them so sooner or later I know witch one are good or bad ! Thank you Sam for making my day and other's.
Awhh thanks so much mate, that's lovely to hear! Thank you too! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Love the video the reason they removed the moving fans on 50 and 56 was because I used to cause performance problems
Surely getting those fans to work (reliably) is a must try project now? I think picking up a little micro motor and some suitable plastic gears, it looks like there is enough space to make it work. It'd need to be dcc'd so a steady suitable voltage could be provided to the fan motor, but that's pretty easy.
haha yeah - I'm thinking about using a separate motor, think that would be the best way to go!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The detail on this loco is incredible. I love etched grilles and seeing details like fans and bracing behind them. I've seen some molded-in grilles that try that effect, with varying degrees of success, but none match etched parts for realism.
Regarding the square, printed patches on the cab ends: On the class 56, the airhorns were mounted behind grilles on the cab ends. Those little circles I assume are the horn bells. It's those grilles that gave the class 56s the nicknames "Gridirons" and "Grids."
Yeah me too - overall a mind-blowing model! Duly noted on the airhorns too! :D
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Oh wow thats impressive! 13 years old and one of the best i hope all modern models can stay up at this bar of quality!
I agree - can't believe how good it is for the age!!
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10:38
“Once you’ve finished poking your finger inside” -Sam’s trains 2020
Dirty boy
Hmm maybe someone else is dirty too by picking up on that innocent statement 😝
haha!! It definitely isn't me that's the dirty boy! ;D
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Hi Sam,
The only other loco with moving fans is the Hornby Class 50. The fans on mine were very hit & miss, the drive system is a very heath robinson affair, relying on friction to move the single fan.
The prototypes, were a type 5 over a class 47 that was only a type 4. Often known as "Tynsley HSTs" as the had the same power unit as the HST. They had a max speed of 80 mph, class 47's ranged between 75 mph (freight) & 100mph (47/7 Scotrail locos) most were rated at 90 mph.
The Dapol/Hornby 56 was originally an Airfix Mainline model....
The 56, was one of the first air fitted only locos for BR, along with the 58 & 60, 47's were originally duel fitted (air & vacuum) in later years some 47's had the vacuum system removed.
Used to work on them from Old Oak Common on the Brentford to Appleford Thames Waste trains. They could pull 20 loaded container flats at 75 mph without breaking a sweat.
Great video!
Thanks a lot for sharing mate, yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD
Appreciate all the info! :D
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I have 2 of these Hornby class 56's from when they released and I have had no problems with the fans and build quality. On my ones the fans are different, they are actually linked to the motor and DCC pin socket as working cooling. So I take it Hornby kept downgrading as time went on 🤨? Good video Sam, I agree about the astonishing details, back then they were so much better. Hornby just don't get the point about model trains anymore 😐. Things always seem to be made cheaper now days 🙁.
Kindest regards to you.
Recently got one of Hornby’s older grids and they’re really nicely done. Hoping to get one of these soon! Great review
Very glad to hear that - they are all quite good to be honest!! :D
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What a performer! If those Bachmann coaches were 1:1 scale, boy you'd soon get travel sickness! For a 13 yr old design superb. All of your reviews are top notch, Sam plus they're 100% honest!
I agree! haha you certainly would - they wobble all over the place! Thanks so much - it's worth being honest when people actually notice!! xD
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On the front is the horn. I bought horn covers from A1 models and painted them with Railmatch paints, great video
Ahh fantastic - that's a cool little mod! :D
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Great review Sam,😊I have hornbys class 31, 50 and 56 with the working fans, I’ve had no problem with any of them, shame hornby ended dropping it cus it does look good.
i don't have any experience with these mechanisms but wouldn't the belt drive since it is being driven by the driving motor cause extra drag and therefore have an impact in preformance??
Stevie Boy You’re right, and that’s why they stopped fitting the belt drive for it
@@adamsrailway thanks for comfirming my thinking 😊
Yes supposedly that's why - pretty embarrassing for them though isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD
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@@SamsTrains well yeah trial and error i would say.
A great review and thanks for sharing, have looked at he class 56 for a while now but seeing your review I have just purchased a DCR version
Hey Sam. The Hornby 50's had turning fans too. They were causing lots of problems with bands snapping and pinging around in the mechanism. If they were stiff fans then they affected the flywheel efficiency so they've been ditched in favour of better performance and reliability. As you said the less its opened the better.
Thanks for the info mate, yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD
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5:41 sam we need to know was this intentional
Was that intentional mate?!
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@@SamsTrains Oh hi Sam didn't expect a reply love your content bro
In another lifetime I used to build and repair the brake systems on the Class 56's, the Romanian built locos were absolute shockers!!
Were they really?! How come?! :O
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@@SamsTrains the problem was the build quality.
The class 47 was a bit quicker than the 56 most of the time, 95 MPH for the 47 and 80 MPH for the 56. However 47s used for secondary duties were told to run at a maximum of 75 MPH as once the tyres had worn down beyond a certain point they couldn’t deal with the heat build up from stopping at 95 MPH.
Duly noted Jeff, thanks a lot for sharing!
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I think that Hornby removing the fan mechanism was a good thing. I've heard from other UA-camrs that their locos with driven fans that fan caused the loco to perform poorly and after a while and they just disconnected it.
Yeah I've now heard that too - still a cock up though isn't it? ;D
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Great video mate! That is pretty impressive! Shame the fans did not work though. keep it up!
Thanks mate! Yeah I was gutted about that - impressed overall though! :D
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Nice loco! I believe the odd one out is the Sentinel I noticed on the track at the end of the video (26:44 is where I saw it) as I believe that Sentinel is a steam engine and not a diesel like the others on the layout.
Very well spotted mate, that's the one!! :D
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BRILLIANT video Sam. It's the first time I have seen a BRUSH TYPE 4 on your layout, you made my day in more ways than one i love those LOCOMOTIVES ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ but getting to the point the GRID class 56 ( hauling Southern coaches i ♥️🤩♥️ that ) you reviewed is stunning, mind blowing. Absolutely gorgeous. It's when you see a engine like that you got to ask yourself when can i own a couple. I believe Hornby are producing a blue Doncaster built machine and they are DEFINITELY on my list. Thank you Sam 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🐖🚄🚅
Thanks so much Mark, yeah I really loved this one too - amazing mind blowing model as you say!! Ooh that does sound very tempting :3
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I love dis channle it inspires me to get hornby collections thanks for changing my life :D
Great to hear that James, thanks so much! :D
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Think my favourite feature on this model is the opening doors followed by the fans spinning and the smoothness of the motor
Absolutely - I've never seen opening doors before in OO - but sadly they've downgraded the fans so they no longer spin - cross about that :(
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@@SamsTrains hornby think are the only company in 00 to make the fans spin i know the hornby 50 fans spin as well as the 60 was a shame that hornby disengaged it
Also I think hornby are the only company to make the doors open the class 43 50 60 and 56 and I think other diesels and electrics where the doors open
Hi Sam. Watched again your video. Now have two Class 56s, DCR, which was £99 from a dealer and Railfreight 56040, from Facebook Group. The latter has working fans, with no problems.
Thanks so much for watching - thanks for confirming this also, very interesting!
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I have one with moving fans , took apart twice still screeches terribly everything back as it should be perfectly cleaned and oiled as well.......propshafts have jumped out as well even after clicking in nicely !
Dude I agree that is sooooooooooooooooo detailed you know what you should do you should do a competition on who’s the best detailed engine
Yeah absolutely - and that would be fun to try! :D
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Nice to see another diesel on your show.
Good on you Sam. Like to see more.
I brought the hattons 66 on your say. I might buy one of these. Nice loco.
Thanks Tim, more coming soon hopefully! Did you like the 66? :D
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Sam I loved my 66. I got it in the BR livery.
Then dropped it on concrete 🙀😫. I never even got to run it 😢. Love your show Sam. Keep them coming 👍🏻
Definitely one of Hornby's best. I've an older super detail EWS one - with working fans!
Many actually complained about the fans, saying they restricted the performance - I've not noticed that on mine.
Yours has light plugs / sockets - mine has wipers / contacts. I got mine 'used' off Hattons with 'faulty lights'. A little tinkering and it became an £80 bargain!!
You've now got to try a Hornby Super Detail Class 60, if you haven't already - at least as good ...
Al.
Thanks a lot Alan - yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD
Glad to hear yours works properly - wonder why they changed the light contacts then?!?
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@@SamsTrains Hi Sam, the light contacts are known not for unreliability, but basically for clumsy handling of those removing and replacing the bodies - the contact fingers are quite critical in their location. Some even 'hard-wire with micro-connectors'. Mine's working so I'm happy - and it's a beast!!
picked one of these up recently for £75 from a model shop in Guildford! Absolute steal!
Blimey! That is insane!! D:
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(For Kelly) Couldn't get rid of them fast enough?
If the fans were belt-driven, wouldn't be surprised if Hornby removed the belt due to issues with the belts breaking. Would make sense with how hard the body is to take off.
I will admit, I'm definitely a bigger fan of diesel than steam, even in modelling, though that might be due to growing up with diesels IRL over here in the US.
BTW, if you want to look at more American diesels, I highly recommend a ScaleTrains model if you can get your hands on one. The one I have is quite detailed, and, IMHO, runs quite well. Feels quite chunky too.
Yeah that's what I've heard - that's probably right! Glad to hear that - with locos like this, I can see why! :D
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Hi Sam wonderful video of class 56. I have almost six class 56 locomotive all having moving fans. Infect that was the reason i bought these class 56. i know these fan causes issue with motor but that was not a problem for me. therefore i bought these locos.
Thanks very much! That sounds fantastic - glad that yours had no problems either!
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Looks a great loco to buy, I used to own an original Hornby one with a "Ringfield motor" but of course not with the level of detail. On an email from Hatton's it states "Working roof fans" are they incorrect or is it just yours that has the " missing part" The only part that puts me a off a bit is your experience with the lighting plug which I have to disconnect in order to fit a DCC decoder for my layout. What a very good review with honest comments, keep it up Sam.
Thanks mate! Yes I'm familiar with those - still great looking models! I think that must have been incorrect - apparently Hornby removed the fan mechanism from all recent examples!
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Hi Sam
I think the reason that I think the fans were not linked to the fly wheel of the motor is that the band for the fans would put the motor under stress and make the motor get hot and burn out.
And would lower the performance of the loco thats the only reason I can think that's the reason why there not working.
With regards of the way the head and tail lights are connected what the hell thats the most shoddy work I've seen on a modern realised loco and I agree with you it should be done by pins.
Rant over lol.
Great video as always look forward to your next video.
Peter from Birmingham
Thanks Peter, yes others have said this too - still a shame - how hard can it be to animate little fans like that?! Couldn't believe those plugs... and the way they fell to pieces!
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I’ve got their Trainload Coal 56 and that’s a beautiful runner and the detail is wonderful.
Great to hear that - I was very impressed with mine! :D
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I don't know why but I didn't like the class 56 a few weeks ago but it's grown on me so I bought one and I love it so so so much :)
haha very glad to hear that - hope you really enjoy it! :D
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I have an early Hornby class 56 .that does have working fans. One of my Favourite locos However it has had a serious issue. That is the wiring from the pick up's to the main board. after some time becomes detached It was sent ba c k to Hornby for repair, which they did, no charge, including replacing one set of bodies. It came back working perfectly. But after some time, the same problem re-occured. I have a Hornby Class 60, that doesn't have the same problem
If you ever come to the state of Virginia, go to Dale's train station. YOU CAN FIND THE ORIANT EXPRESS.
That sounds epic - I'd love to visit! :D
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Great review of a very nice unit. Latecomer from the States.
Thanks a lot David, glad you liked it! :D
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Nice review, Sam. As others have pointed out, the mechanism for the spinning fans was removed from the class 56s due to them having performance problems with them connected. I've also removed this from my own 56s that did have it, and performance improved tenfold! To be fair though, I think it's more of a gimmick on the models really, as their operation wouldn't be prototypical anyhow. Other issues of the 56s are coupler arm dragging off the first vehicle of a rake, and lighting contacts being dubious on early examples. Other than that, the 56s are superb models.
Cheers,
Caz.
Thanks Caz, yes sounds like it's for the best this doesn't have it - might try to design my own mechanism for it though! ;D
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I have the older hornby class 56 in trans rail livery, which had lights and a driver, that was in the range before they brought this newer model out. I have one issue though the molded front coupling bar snapped and I now require a new or second hand bogie molding to repair it as it's the go to loco to used for my track cleaning train due to its power.
Thanks for letting me know ben - is that like the EWS one I showed??
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@@SamsTrains very similar.
I just ordered one. Just from watching this video I already know that it’s going to be amazing
Awesome! Really hope you enjoy it mate! :D
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The older 56’s are still good like the newer class 56’s, but the newer one is annoying on how they disabled the rotating fan. I do own a older hornby 56 which was 56095 Harworth Colliery (Coal Sector Livery) with the old 21 pin DCC sound before TTS and the new 56 has a better advantage over the older hornby 2008/2011 class 56’s, because there are wires that connect the lights now which is nice in the newer 56 but the older 56 models that use metal contacts were plagued with defects and mine was unfortunately one of them. with none working lights on one side and only one of the front lights work. But that newer 56 is Still a good model thats for a £121, it now has my attention to purchase one. Thanks for this review sam! 😁
Thanks mate! Yeah it is pretty annoying - thanks for sharing all of this, yes the wires are annoying... and so they couldn't get contacts right either?!?!
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Clearly a beautiful model which runs amazingly well. I do understand your disappointment with the roof fan but Ive not heard a good report about moving fans as they seriously affect the running performance, most reviews report they have disconnected the belt. Hence Hornby’s decision to disconnect the drive at the factory. You mentioned the grills on the ends, the circles represent the horns. Great review as always Sam.
Yeah absolutely! I've heard that too now - probably a blessing they're not fitted any more! ;D
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Another impressive production from Hornby Sam, and performance to match. Hornby are certainly setting the Bar at the moment....Bob
Thanks very much Robert - agreed, they are very impressive! :D
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Gotta have one of these! Fans need to be rebuilt though, perhaps with a separate micro motor. Thank you for a great review! 😊👍
Yeah definitely - I might look into putting a motor in there! :D
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Looks like we have a new "Grid" fan team! BTW... They were not faster Sam... 47s were generally 95 mph maximum speed with 56s limited to 80 mph. They were more powerful though. The grills on the cab front are indeed grills with the horns visible behind them. Shame they are just a print and not a real grill. Great review of my favourite loco. Cheers mukka.
haha absolutely! Yeah you're right - no idea why my source said that then! D:
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A dazzling diesel indeed!
(Maybe we should call poor diesels "drippy" or "drizzly" diesels?)
I'd be tempted to "bodge" some small, separate DC micro-motors to turn the roof fans, could be a nice little project and extra feature to the model, some of the other comments seem to say that the belt drive system drew too much grunt from the motor.
I do think if Hornby should introduce working roof fans to a newer model of this class, the better way would be to use seperate motors.
haha I certainly could - I like that! ;D
in my opinion your diesel collection has gone up a few notches wow
haha I agree - this one's epic! :D
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Brilliant loco. Love the colours, love the BR logo, the details, all of the above, basically. I saw some Colas Rail Class 56 locos in Cardiff. I guess some of them being rebuilt into a class 69 is better than nothing. Plus, it’s more cost effective anyway. It’s like how some Class 47 locos were converted into class 57 locos.
Thanks Tomas, yeah me too - great livery isn't it? Agreed - at least they're not being scrapped!
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@@SamsTrains Yep. Take it all with a pinch of salt.
A wonderful model, very useful review. I normally buy only steam, but maybe, just maybe, I'll get one of these in the bright Railfreight red stripe livery like yours. Personally the static fans don't bother me, but I love the little aluminium plates below the cab doors.
Thanks a lot John - if you're buying a deisel, I would recommend this one for sure!! :D
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17:30 The non-installation of the fan mechanism may seem like a downgrade, but I can tell you from experience that its not! It was a trend that Hornby had about 9-10 years ago to put a working fan into every loco they could. I have several of these and after a while it either breaks, burns the motor out (they were highly resistant) or started to sound awful. I know of other people who have had even worse experiences. (Including fires!) Hope that solves the mystery!
In that case, that's even embarrassing for them - fancy developing a system that *doesn't work properly* - these things should be carefully developed and tested, and should be functional when they hit the shelves! Imagine selling a TV, and having to disable features because they weren't designed properly? Insane!!
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Hi Sam. I wonder if the fan mechanism wasn’t a conscious effort to avoid some problem, perhaps with braking belts. They just got too many complaints.
Enjoyed the video and think the engine is fantastic. Especially how heavy it is and how quiet it is. Reminds me of my first loco I bought a Lifelike GP18 low hood away back in ‘91. My favourite.
Yeah I think that's right - still ridiculous though - doesn't seem like the kind of thing they should be getting wrong ;)
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Awesome review. The upcoming Aurora Miniatures HO scale GMD SD60F locomotive will have moving radiator fans.
hi Sam great video as always hornby stopped putting the fan mechanism in because there was a lot of complaints that it seriously effects the performance
Thanks Dan - yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!?
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I know Hornby had a lot of complaints about the fans interfering with the smooth running of the loco and many modellers were removing the belt . . . . :) Great review Sam.
Is that so? Surely if designed properly a mechanism like that wouldn't impact the performance much - that does sound feasible though!
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the Hornby DVT, class 08 and class 43 also have opening doors
I've heard that - really need to check those out! :D
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And their Class 60.
Hi Sam. I have a class 56 and i bought mine last year and mine still has working fans and that is not on DCC. I spotted the steamer. the sentinal steamer (Molly) Great video.
Ahh very interesting - thanks for the info Liam! :D
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I have this very model. I totally agree with your conclusions, but acknowledge the previous comment about Hornby getting rid of the working fans due to motor damage. I wish Hornby would make more Class 56 in this same scheme.
I have this loco pull a rake of 36 HEA coal hoppers at shows.
Thanks a lot for sharing! Yes I heard about this - pity they couldn't design a more effective mechanism really!
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Hornby probably removed the fan mechanism because it created a lot of running issues. There are a coulple of Everad Junction videos from a few years back where he mentions how badly those fans affected running. When they did have moving fans, most people snipped the belt off due to the problems it caused
haha yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD
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Such a very well detailed model indeed Sam! I showed a picture of a 56 to my dad he says they look a bit like busses!
Thanks Ryno! haha yeah they do a little bit! ;D
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An excellent model from Hornby. I'm not a huge 56 fan (I'd rather have a 50), but I have 2 in coal sector livery and one in loadhaul, all run excellently but only the loadhaul one's lights work. One of the coal sector ones (127) has had its sound removed, and needs a lot of work doing to it, but I only paid £35 for it; the other coal sector one (095) still has sound, and I haven't yet taken the roof off to find why the lights don't work.
Earlier models used the spring connectors for the lights, but these are unreliable on these locos so they obviously swapped them out for wired plug/sockets instead. Odd that they chose not to include the fan mechanism in R3473 and R3265 (in colas), but you could always retrofit the mechanism if you want. Although, some people have complained that the fan drive makes the model squeal after a bit of use (I've only had 56s for about a year, so not experienced that yet).
Have to say I prefer the Railfreight grey without the red stripe on the 56s...
Thanks mate for all the info! Blimey, that does sound pretty good for just £35! :D
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Nice loco there Sam ! My very detailed SLW Class 24 has a fan but doesn't turn either and to be honest I think it's for the better because it can only break down. Same as with pantographs going up and down by remote control, can only go bust !
Not so user friendly with that body removal in spite of using 4 screws which I prefer above clipping in and using a credit card to remove the body !
The loco itself should be fine certainly with DCC Sound. Cheers, Jan
Thanks for sharing - yes they do break down supposedly, so that does explain it!
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Also the fans not moving may be a good thing. I’ve heard that they often cause performance issues and people often just cut the rubber bands that drive them because of that.
Yes someone else said that too - still, I would have liked to have seen them work :(
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I would prefer br blue as it suits it a lot better 🙂 and I agree a brilliant loco one of my favs and close to modern diesels I would go for 🙂
Yeah I love the blue too - that'd be awesome!! :D
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Sam you said you wanted to see how it was in 2007 but I think they had traction tires I think because I saw a person running one of the old ones with it so idk what would it be back at that time
Did they really?! That could be the much older one from Dapol I think!
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Hi Sam,
I've got a Hornby class 50 with a similar mechanism where the fans are concerned. However, this one came with a working fan. Although I've taken the belt off as it caused the motor to sound very unhappy. It's a shame they don't fit a separate much smaller motor, which could work off the decoder (if fitted) and could be a separate feature. Oh well.
Excellent video. :)
Thanks for sharing William - lots of people are saying similar things actually, good point!
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If there's a blue one about I'm getting one because this class 56 is just what I need for my express trains and as a maintenance diesel for cleaning my tracks and I'd be putting it with one of the bachmann track cleaning break vans
Great video Sam, I bought a second hand Mainlines class 56 and it is probably one of the most realistic loco in my collection, it even has little people in the cab and it’s 56084
Hi Sam, Nice review and a very nice engine, about time you had a good built one, worth the money , All the Best Brian 🤗
Thanks Brian! Yeah absolutely - definitely about time! ;D
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hi sam great video, i am waiting for the floyd version and cannot wait.
Ooh excellent - that'll be awesome! :D
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Nice loco Sam. I definitely want the class 66 in that livery mate!👍🚂🚃🚃🚃🚄🚅🚉🛸🍺🍻😷😁👍
Ooh me too - that would look very interesting!
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Sam your a clever chap. I am in sure you could fix a micro motor into that space and get the fans turning again. Then do a video about it. Keep up the good work!
Yeah I'm thinking about it - would be fun to try anyway!
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Oh man I remember as a kid watching those fans in amazement!
I know the fans and plugs are a detractor, but she's got so many nice qualities that are really impressive. Really like the livery too. Seems like an eggshell finish. Thanks Sam. What's your mail drop address?
Yeah you're right - overall still a superb model!! I don't have a PO box open any more sadly :(
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Very underrated model, I need one of these 👌
Awesome vid sam love the colours
Thanks so much Fred! :D
The original release did have fans that worked, but they are/were problematic and would often stop, causing stress on the motor and poor running issues when they decided to jam up. So not having the fans working is no big deal.
Yeah so I've heard - that's even more embarrassing for them then isn't it?!? Can't even properly design a mechanism for tiny fans xD
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I know a game you should play on your pc Sam. It’s called derail valley. It says it’s made for VR but it’s available for pc aswell. I tried it yesterday and really enjoyed it (apart from going to fast and smashing my windows when I was shunting). There are also steam locos and overall it’s just a really fun game. Great job with the vid. See you soon
I've heard a lot about that - would be fun to try!! :D
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Smashing loco 😜 🤪 The weight should help for pulling more vans.
I agree! For sure - very beefy puller this one!
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Nice model reviews amazing model nice livery
Thanks so much mate! :D
Truly stunning! I had an n gauge one which was amazing but that has smashed it!
haha thank you!! I'd love to try the N gauge one some day! :D
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I read it as I had an n gauge one which was amazing but I smashed it! XD
@@SamsTrains Come along, Sam. You have O gauge, OO gauge - now it's REALLY time to drop a gauge!
I recently got as a birthday present is the biggest HO scale diesel locomotive yet a Walthers SD70Ace
OH wow! That sounds epic - is it good?! :D
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Hi, have one myself great loco. The early ones had working fan powered by a band, but it caused bad running. So the new ones as you say had bits removed.
Fantastic to hear that - yeah I've heard that, probably a blessing then!
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We had a 56 with wheel creep system ie electronic control of wheel slip/traction bit like a 60 rode it on test few times worked really well but they got withdrawn so never got further than one prototype . They were good loco when working right , normal one struggled bit from standstill with heavy train compared to a 60 once moving think they were as good as 60 . Model looks all correct on details to me and I have spent lots of time round them . Actually had air conditioning when new it could have been termed climate control as stat controlled heating and cooling never seen working though just remnants or AC in heater unit
Got a resprayed Colas 56 DCC sound for £135 absolutely fabulous loco mad detail for its age