We absolutely had to use this tool with our 7 month old boxer mix. We tried everything, the joyride harness, the gentle leader, ect. At almost 2 years old now she is much better behaved and no longer needs it. Every now and then she will get a little too excited and I whip out the gentle leader and she instantly falls into step. Some dogs need power steering when they're in the pre-teen stage to remind them that they're not in charge.
Can't you do the same with a slip collar(chain)? There is an old lady(mid 70's) i ran into a couple of years ago that had a 100lb lab and the dog would go nuts when any other dog came near it. She had a heck of a time controlling the dog. The dog was about as big as her. Saw her again a couple of weeks ago and she had no problem controlling the dog with a slip one. I was amazed.
This is the first video I've seen that makes me actually consider trying a prong with my dog. She's a husky and she pulls so bad, despite how much work we do using positive rewards only.... The other videos I watched did exactly what Tyler said not to do... wait until the dog gets ahead and then correct... but they correct HARD. Hearing those dogs yelp made me close the video... I can't do that to my dog. These corrections are so much more gentle....
i do this without the prong not difficult to achieve most owners have such poor energy when walking there dogs pick your pace up dont wait for your dog lots of about turn i do loads of different lead drills changing direction and correction comes when he forgets hes out on the walk with me he needs to learn hes with me not me with him its not all about correction i talk and praise when it s going well and use no on corrections with my young dogs i do lead drill 3 to 4 times a day my dogs have allways walked beautifully and we love our road walks.
Tyler is one of the few best rehabbers of dangerous dogs in America. He is not going to hurt a dog and is making the video with Leerburg under a contract. There are no tricks or deceptions... just CORRECT fitting and USE of a prong collar and a leash.
A lot of videos I see, including this one, discourage sniffing and correct it. However, the walks I do with my dog are for him. I wouldn't be outside if it wasn't for him. Therefore, I want to make that a nice experience for him. Dogs experience the world through their nose so I don't want to eliminate that from walks. How can I walk my dog without him pulling yet still allow him to be a dog and sniff?
@@christopheclugston yeah but how do I incorporate sniffing in walks? My guy doesn't usually sniff in one spot, he walks and sniffs, which leads to him dragging me around
I teach my dogs and my clients dogs this way. They are city dogs and it helps to have them next to you and not pulling or sniffing when walking. When they sniff they are following a trail and not paying attention to you really. For city walking it can be a problem to have them weaving around and checking out new smells all the time. It helps to have a controlled heel and then when there is nice clear area give them a release word and have them sniff around. They are not allowed to pick things up (litter is an issue in the city) but they are allowed to explore and sniff and relieve themselves. I usually also teach them a slow down command for this so that when they start to move too far ahead and get to the point of "pulling" I can get them to slow down, but they are still allowed to sniff. Similar way of teaching it to this heel on the video. Then when ready to have a more controlled walk I just put them in a heel again.
I agree I find it fulfilling to watch my Storm sniffing away. What I found helpful is to start your walk when he/she begins to pull stop, don't look at her/him just stop and ignore them, when there is slack in the leash continue the walk. Might take a few tries but eventually they will realize when the leash is tight we stop and when there is slack I can sniff away. Hope it works. Thanks Mike Rutland(Team Dog)
Has anyone successfully done this with a young energetic husky? Dogs bred for pulling don't follow well at all, and I am highly skeptical it will work.
It can be a challenge, but yes. I definitely wouldn't use a standard harness. Try the prong or other training tool that doesn't promote pulling like a regular harness.
i'm not against the prong collar, but I am curious to know when do you not use the prong anymore and what happens when not using it, does the dog revert back to the same pulling behavior?
Kenneth Armstead yup! I’ve had this question too. When I’m fading out the prong, I start the walk on the prong, then once they are in a calm, following state of mind I (if possible) switch the leash to the flat collar while walking. If not I stop, have the dog sit, then change the leash. I might have the dog do a down or something easy after they are on the flat collar, just to show I’m still in charge. Then I’ll start walking with the same calm assertive energy, and give a correction on the flat collar if the dog starts pulling again. USUALLY the dog listens and goes right back to the heel, If he doesn’t after a few corrections go back to the prong. This way the dog learns he will go back to the prong if he pulls. A few times after doing this (it usually only takes a walk or two) start the walk on the prong like usual, then after you move the leash to the flat collar take the prong off. Have the dog sit or down again, then continue walking with the same calm assertive mindset. Give strong corrections if the dog starts pulling, and if it gets bad again go back to the prong. After a few walks of this you should be able to get off the prong collar completely. I would recommend bringing it with you though the first couple times you start on the flat collar, so if the dog reverts you can put them back on the prong and remind them. After that, you don’t have to worry about bring the prong anymore! I don’t find though sometimes I get lazy so the dog gets lazy and I have to go back to the prong for a bit because we’ve regressed, but usually it isn’t hard! Good luck!
I useused the prong collar for a week on a four month old puppy. Once he stopped pulling I changed to a Martingale collar. It’s designed the same as a prong collar and works the same way but without the prongs. So when he doesn’t Pull it’s loose and when he does pull it tightens. Flat collars put too much pressure on his throat. Martingale‘s and prong collars put the pressure on equally around his neck.
@@kicknadeadcat four months old puppy is too young for corrective devices. It's better to educate your puppy gently and consistently at this age and raising the expectations acordingly. If people do that, chances are they will never face the issues where the dog drags them around. However most people don't educate their young puppies because of lazines or lack of knowleage and then they run into ussues as the puppy hits adolescence.
@@dorkatomankova5132 its not a "corrective device" it is a communication device. It gives better feedback than a flat collar. Just by putting it on doesn't mean you have to be aversive. Did you watch the video? A puppy can handle what was going on in this video
The problem I found with prong collars, is that you always have to use them. If you revert to a flat collar, they won’t retain much of the prong collar work.
Not before six months, but really should consult a professional trainer for an individualized assessment when using leash corrections with or without a prong collar on a pup under 12 months because of the amount of cartilage in a puppy’s skeleton. Handler technique matters a lot and you develop that technique with the guidance of a good instructor giving you feedback as this instructor did (then the skill once learned is yours forever). If the pup is behaving differently from past pups you’ve worked or you’re wondering about trying a new technique, get the pup assessed. No one tool or technique works well with all pups. The trick is determining the best approach for your individual pup, the one that won’t make the problem even worse, cause new problems, or damage your relationship with pup AND will fix the problem and that’s where you need advice from a pro who has eyes on you and pup. Leerburg videos are great used in conjunction with training classes to supplement class instruction but Leerburg will tell you a video is not a good substitute for good hands on instruction. Time and money spent now on training a well behaved pup will pay many dividends over the next decade and are well worth the investment. My six month old (sixth dog I’ve trained myself) just started her third class (on focused heeling). Totally worth it because the instructor gives me feedback to make me a better trainer and handler for her life and for all future dogs. Just one good puppy course can make a big impact.
@@imnotmike depends on the dog and handler. some dogs are already 75lbs by 4 months with small lady walking them. also is a matter of where the dog is at in its training.
there is another aproach to teach this which consist on teaching the dog to be by your side and be rewarded, then make a step or two and be rewarded and so. In time the dog will walk by your side when on leash. there is also the posibility of a slighter punishment that consist in just stop and dont let the dog walk if the leash is tight. Loose leash means walk, tight leash means not. Perhaps prong collars used properly are not tye worst thing, and many pro trainers introduce punishment jerk with flat collars but only at high stages of training. the first will be to teach "what to do" and not only "what not to do" so the dog feels like working when onleash.
I know it's a year late, but whenever they do correct behavior, you reinforce with praise as you can see in the video, food (though not necessarily recommended) and a pet. But balanced training is rewarding what you want and correcting what you don't. This was very balanced. A don't doesn't need a party for doing things right. A good praise is enough.
Irene Widdows I should also add that the "pop" isn't punishment. It's simply redirection of the dog's attention back on you, much like a poke or tap on the shoulder is. It is not painful to the dog.
Irene Widdows This isn't punishment. This is communication. It does not hurt the dog. A small wrist movement does not hurt the dog. And then it is always backed up with positive feedback. See the "good boy" with a tail wag when he was taking small steps. The dog needs to know what not to do and then what to do instead. This is one way to do that. Also, this isn't all of balanced training. This is one behavior, heel. This doesn't encompass all of Leerburg or any balanced training. Leerburg did an entire course on the power of food and the power of tug with your dog. They do *A TON* of positive reinforcemet, hense balanced. It is not fair to take one video and say "not very balanced". You must take all of their videos and detemine from there. Also, positive only way on training heel did not work for us ourside because the enviroment was much more rewarding then anything I could provide and we eased out, for months we struggled before finding Tyler Mutos videos. I'm sorry but why allow someone to struggle for months getting nowhere when there is a tool that can fix the issue in minutes without pain or fear? You cannot watch any of my videos and tell me my dog is in pain or fear from the prong collar. Sorry but you just can't. It provides him feedback and communication that I can't otherwise give him and I know because I wore it on my own neck before ever putting it on his, all it does is distrubutes pressure along it's points. And that is all it does. As long as you use it correctly as shown here there is nothing punishing about it.
Only positive punishment is really not the way to go. You’ll not get a stronger bond with your dog, and you’ll not give it the motivation. The dog won’t sniff around because you give it an unpleasant answer that makes him rather afraid than confident.
Moore Core A prong collar isn't magic on its own. I've seen people use them incorrectly and the dog acts just as bad as before. Even without a prong, I've heard it's good to use the concept of leash pressure to teach a dog to walk properly, anyway.
This dog is shaking his head the whole time cause the collar is so uncomfortable. The dog isnt allowed to sniff? This is another example of trainers confusing the public on heeling vs. loose leash walking. You're not going to do this on a 5 mile walk...
He’s being corrected of course it’s slightly uncomfortable. That’s the point if the correction, it adds pressure and the pressure is released when the dog does the desired behavior.
Daria Rylkova I refuse to allow my dogs to sniff while on a leash. They only receive permission to do so if they're going to go to the bathroom. That's it. If they're off leash, running wild and free, that's a different story. They can sniff all they want while on a hike or trail run. But while on a leash they follow the rules and are expected to do so.
It is most definitely a positive thing, the second the dog takes the pressure off, that's the reward, plus not being hysterical and hated by all is also a reward.
So calm and subtle. A very nice option when wanting a nice loose leash heel.
one of the few solid videos on leash walking. Thank you! I will try my with my puppy
I love the way you teach. So easy to understand and follow. Thank you.
We absolutely had to use this tool with our 7 month old boxer mix. We tried everything, the joyride harness, the gentle leader, ect. At almost 2 years old now she is much better behaved and no longer needs it. Every now and then she will get a little too excited and I whip out the gentle leader and she instantly falls into step. Some dogs need power steering when they're in the pre-teen stage to remind them that they're not in charge.
Can't you do the same with a slip collar(chain)? There is an old lady(mid 70's) i ran into a couple of years ago that had a 100lb lab and the dog would go nuts when any other dog came near it. She had a heck of a time controlling the dog. The dog was about as big as her. Saw her again a couple of weeks ago and she had no problem controlling the dog with a slip one. I was amazed.
This is the first video I've seen that makes me actually consider trying a prong with my dog. She's a husky and she pulls so bad, despite how much work we do using positive rewards only.... The other videos I watched did exactly what Tyler said not to do... wait until the dog gets ahead and then correct... but they correct HARD. Hearing those dogs yelp made me close the video... I can't do that to my dog. These corrections are so much more gentle....
Is it wrong to let them sniff the ground during walks? I assumed they are mainly looking for a spot to mark their territory
Great video. Thank you Tyler Muto!
i do this without the prong not difficult to achieve most owners have such poor energy when walking there dogs
pick your pace up dont wait for your dog lots of about turn i do loads of different lead drills changing direction and correction comes when he forgets hes out on the walk with me he needs to learn hes with me not me with him
its not all about correction i talk and praise when it s going well
and use no on corrections with my young dogs i do lead drill 3 to 4 times a day my dogs have allways walked beautifully and we love our road walks.
Same. People just dont know how to control dogs
Woooooowwwwwww
Tyler is one of the few best rehabbers of dangerous dogs in America. He is not going to hurt a dog and is making the video with Leerburg under a contract. There are no tricks or deceptions... just CORRECT fitting and USE of a prong collar and a leash.
People would rather the dog be killed because 'positive only' didnt work. Sad.
A lot of videos I see, including this one, discourage sniffing and correct it. However, the walks I do with my dog are for him. I wouldn't be outside if it wasn't for him. Therefore, I want to make that a nice experience for him. Dogs experience the world through their nose so I don't want to eliminate that from walks. How can I walk my dog without him pulling yet still allow him to be a dog and sniff?
Yeah and Michael Ellis, Leerburg's star says the same
@@christopheclugston yeah but how do I incorporate sniffing in walks? My guy doesn't usually sniff in one spot, he walks and sniffs, which leads to him dragging me around
@@hope1922 sounds like a training question for a consultation not a youtube comment
I teach my dogs and my clients dogs this way. They are city dogs and it helps to have them next to you and not pulling or sniffing when walking. When they sniff they are following a trail and not paying attention to you really. For city walking it can be a problem to have them weaving around and checking out new smells all the time. It helps to have a controlled heel and then when there is nice clear area give them a release word and have them sniff around. They are not allowed to pick things up (litter is an issue in the city) but they are allowed to explore and sniff and relieve themselves. I usually also teach them a slow down command for this so that when they start to move too far ahead and get to the point of "pulling" I can get them to slow down, but they are still allowed to sniff. Similar way of teaching it to this heel on the video. Then when ready to have a more controlled walk I just put them in a heel again.
I agree I find it fulfilling to watch my Storm sniffing away. What I found helpful is to start your walk when he/she begins to pull stop, don't look at her/him just stop and ignore them, when there is slack in the leash continue the walk. Might take a few tries but eventually they will realize when the leash is tight we stop and when there is slack I can sniff away. Hope it works. Thanks Mike Rutland(Team Dog)
Great video! I'll definitely be signing up for the course!
Has anyone successfully done this with a young energetic husky? Dogs bred for pulling don't follow well at all, and I am highly skeptical it will work.
Works well with a prong collar!
It can be a challenge, but yes. I definitely wouldn't use a standard harness. Try the prong or other training tool that doesn't promote pulling like a regular harness.
i'm not against the prong collar, but I am curious to know when do you not use the prong anymore and what happens when not using it, does the dog revert back to the same pulling behavior?
Kenneth Armstead yup! I’ve had this question too. When I’m fading out the prong, I start the walk on the prong, then once they are in a calm, following state of mind I (if possible) switch the leash to the flat collar while walking. If not I stop, have the dog sit, then change the leash. I might have the dog do a down or something easy after they are on the flat collar, just to show I’m still in charge. Then I’ll start walking with the same calm assertive energy, and give a correction on the flat collar if the dog starts pulling again. USUALLY the dog listens and goes right back to the heel, If he doesn’t after a few corrections go back to the prong. This way the dog learns he will go back to the prong if he pulls. A few times after doing this (it usually only takes a walk or two) start the walk on the prong like usual, then after you move the leash to the flat collar take the prong off. Have the dog sit or down again, then continue walking with the same calm assertive mindset. Give strong corrections if the dog starts pulling, and if it gets bad again go back to the prong. After a few walks of this you should be able to get off the prong collar completely. I would recommend bringing it with you though the first couple times you start on the flat collar, so if the dog reverts you can put them back on the prong and remind them. After that, you don’t have to worry about bring the prong anymore! I don’t find though sometimes I get lazy so the dog gets lazy and I have to go back to the prong for a bit because we’ve regressed, but usually it isn’t hard! Good luck!
I useused the prong collar for a week on a four month old puppy. Once he stopped pulling I changed to a Martingale collar. It’s designed the same as a prong collar and works the same way but without the prongs. So when he doesn’t Pull it’s loose and when he does pull it tightens. Flat collars put too much pressure on his throat. Martingale‘s and prong collars put the pressure on equally around his neck.
The goal is to have the same leash manners no matter the collar type.
But leash manners go beyond the actual leash.
@@kicknadeadcat four months old puppy is too young for corrective devices. It's better to educate your puppy gently and consistently at this age and raising the expectations acordingly. If people do that, chances are they will never face the issues where the dog drags them around. However most people don't educate their young puppies because of lazines or lack of knowleage and then they run into ussues as the puppy hits adolescence.
@@dorkatomankova5132 its not a "corrective device" it is a communication device. It gives better feedback than a flat collar. Just by putting it on doesn't mean you have to be aversive. Did you watch the video? A puppy can handle what was going on in this video
can I try this with a standard long haired dashund?
The problem I found with prong collars, is that you always have to use them. If you revert to a flat collar, they won’t retain much of the prong collar work.
Why is that a problem though? I used a prong to transition to off leash heeling, but I don't see anything wrong with always using a prong
No, you can transition into the flat collar. It just takes a few walks to do so
With a prong collar, it’s easy. Nothing new here. Very old school training.
Excellent video!
From what age is it conceivable to use a prong collar. I've seen other video from leerburg recommending to never use on puppy
Not before six months, but really should consult a professional trainer for an individualized assessment when using leash corrections with or without a prong collar on a pup under 12 months because of the amount of cartilage in a puppy’s skeleton. Handler technique matters a lot and you develop that technique with the guidance of a good instructor giving you feedback as this instructor did (then the skill once learned is yours forever). If the pup is behaving differently from past pups you’ve worked or you’re wondering about trying a new technique, get the pup assessed. No one tool or technique works well with all pups. The trick is determining the best approach for your individual pup, the one that won’t make the problem even worse, cause new problems, or damage your relationship with pup AND will fix the problem and that’s where you need advice from a pro who has eyes on you and pup. Leerburg videos are great used in conjunction with training classes to supplement class instruction but Leerburg will tell you a video is not a good substitute for good hands on instruction. Time and money spent now on training a well behaved pup will pay many dividends over the next decade and are well worth the investment. My six month old (sixth dog I’ve trained myself) just started her third class (on focused heeling). Totally worth it because the instructor gives me feedback to make me a better trainer and handler for her life and for all future dogs. Just one good puppy course can make a big impact.
4 months or older
@@atmospheriicx 4 months is younger than recommended. 6-8 months is the usual recommendation for when to start prong training.
@@imnotmike depends on the dog and handler. some dogs are already 75lbs by 4 months with small lady walking them. also is a matter of where the dog is at in its training.
did you use e collar ?
He's using a pinch collar.
So many people who can't walk a dog talking about take the prong off. LOL.
Did they say they can’t walk a dog?
At what point do you reinforce the correct behaviour? Do we only punish? That's not very balanced.
there is another aproach to teach this which consist on teaching the dog to be by your side and be rewarded, then make a step or two and be rewarded and so. In time the dog will walk by your side when on leash.
there is also the posibility of a slighter punishment that consist in just stop and dont let the dog walk if the leash is tight. Loose leash means walk, tight leash means not.
Perhaps prong collars used properly are not tye worst thing, and many pro trainers introduce punishment jerk with flat collars but only at high stages of training. the first will be to teach "what to do" and not only "what not to do" so the dog feels like working when onleash.
I know it's a year late, but whenever they do correct behavior, you reinforce with praise as you can see in the video, food (though not necessarily recommended) and a pet. But balanced training is rewarding what you want and correcting what you don't. This was very balanced. A don't doesn't need a party for doing things right. A good praise is enough.
a dog* doesn't need a party...
Irene Widdows I should also add that the "pop" isn't punishment. It's simply redirection of the dog's attention back on you, much like a poke or tap on the shoulder is. It is not painful to the dog.
Irene Widdows This isn't punishment. This is communication. It does not hurt the dog. A small wrist movement does not hurt the dog. And then it is always backed up with positive feedback. See the "good boy" with a tail wag when he was taking small steps. The dog needs to know what not to do and then what to do instead. This is one way to do that. Also, this isn't all of balanced training. This is one behavior, heel. This doesn't encompass all of Leerburg or any balanced training. Leerburg did an entire course on the power of food and the power of tug with your dog. They do *A TON* of positive reinforcemet, hense balanced. It is not fair to take one video and say "not very balanced". You must take all of their videos and detemine from there. Also, positive only way on training heel did not work for us ourside because the enviroment was much more rewarding then anything I could provide and we eased out, for months we struggled before finding Tyler Mutos videos. I'm sorry but why allow someone to struggle for months getting nowhere when there is a tool that can fix the issue in minutes without pain or fear? You cannot watch any of my videos and tell me my dog is in pain or fear from the prong collar. Sorry but you just can't. It provides him feedback and communication that I can't otherwise give him and I know because I wore it on my own neck before ever putting it on his, all it does is distrubutes pressure along it's points. And that is all it does. As long as you use it correctly as shown here there is nothing punishing about it.
He tried really hard not to say Flick of the wrist lol
I don't get it. ?
Only positive punishment is really not the way to go. You’ll not get a stronger bond with your dog, and you’ll not give it the motivation. The dog won’t sniff around because you give it an unpleasant answer that makes him rather afraid than confident.
I let my dog sniff when its time to go off leash. Also dogs can still sniff the air without diving their heads to the ground
shorten the lead-its rhat simple
No big trick. It's prong collar with some buzz word.
yeah i was like its just a fucking prong collar lol
ima dog whisperer now
Moore Core A prong collar isn't magic on its own. I've seen people use them incorrectly and the dog acts just as bad as before.
Even without a prong, I've heard it's good to use the concept of leash pressure to teach a dog to walk properly, anyway.
@@Sandy33569 the prong is magic though. you can get a perfect heel in 5 min from a rowdy dog
This dog is shaking his head the whole time cause the collar is so uncomfortable. The dog isnt allowed to sniff? This is another example of trainers confusing the public on heeling vs. loose leash walking. You're not going to do this on a 5 mile walk...
dog is not a robot, you can heel walk him sometimes. but let dogs be dogs
He's probably shaking his head because it's an unfamiliar feeling, like how puppies react to wearing a flat collar at first.
He’s being corrected of course it’s slightly uncomfortable. That’s the point if the correction, it adds pressure and the pressure is released when the dog does the desired behavior.
Daria Rylkova I refuse to allow my dogs to sniff while on a leash. They only receive permission to do so if they're going to go to the bathroom. That's it. If they're off leash, running wild and free, that's a different story. They can sniff all they want while on a hike or trail run. But while on a leash they follow the rules and are expected to do so.
This is training, not a 5 mile walk. Use your head.
Really? A prong collar is not positive reinforcement
RandomDC They’re great training aids in the right hands. It’s all about balanced training
It is most definitely a positive thing, the second the dog takes the pressure off, that's the reward, plus not being hysterical and hated by all is also a reward.