Bill & Yvonne love the ingenuity you borrowed from Derek on how to put up the metal sheets. These last few days I can definitely see how it would have been too windy to do that job until there was a lull in the gale force breezes! Loved the real time placement of the roof panels showing what a coordinated effort it took. One of your best vids folks. Enjoyed it a lot.
Thank you Don! The wind has certainly been a challenge but we took our opportunities when they presented themselves. I did get caught up there one time when the wind really started howling. I just had to hunker down for a minute, and wait for it to pass, and then scramble down the ladder. And my scrambling down a ladder takes a minute, especially getting in the ladder. 🤣
You’re so fortunate to have such great roof with great co workers. Very nice that the truss manufacturer was so stand up speaks volumes for the way they conduct business.
They are a great company to work with and I can wholeheartedly recommend them! And I don't get anything from them in return. But good companies deserve to be recognized!
They admitted that they usually mention that the truss tails will not be the exact length ordered, but didn't tell me about it. And heck, I've sent them 4 customers already with my UA-cam videos so consider it a "bird dog" fee. 👍 But they are a great company to work with.
Bill I totally track with your logic on where to put the drip edge. ie. underneath the underlayment. I now am alerted to the fact I have no drip-edge at all on my small cottage. For a future building I am going to sit down and think about adding a drip edge. Arghhh having your trusses be wrongly sized must have been super frustrating! Understandable you would think that the trusses were a prescribed size! Great video. Very informative. I learned a lot. Also can relate to the crazy winds these days.
Everything is coming along beautifully, and the roof looks great! I know I haven't been commenting lately, but just know that I am still keeping up with your progress, and rooting you on. ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️
Vise grips and a rope work real well for dragging metal up to the roof. Looking good brother. Dont feel bad about not measuring, I have done the same thing in the past.
That butyl is sticky the way you did it. Usually, you leave the paper on. Then you lay on the steel. You can then lift it ever so slightly and peel the tape. My brother and I did it this way as teens with a 100 foot long 40 wide steel arch matching shed. No matter- great work! Nice aerial view from the roof. Also nice to see the window view through the doorway. Thanks for the video.
I agree that's exactly how it's going to be done. The flashing on the low end is below the paper and the flashing on the top end which is actually the ridge flashing will be sitting on top of the panels. That's how this metal roof material is installed according to the manufacturer. 👍
On the top DE should be on top of shingles and on bottom under with a .5 inch overhang on the shingle to prevent water from going up the bottom of the shingle. 😎
We actually have a 2 in overhang on the low side to be sure that the rain run off lands in the gutter. The rainwater doesn't build up much speed on a 1:12 roof. Both the rake and ridge flashing will be on top of the panels preventing lift from the wind. Thanks for watching!
I can feel your roofing pain. Fortunately I double checked our trusses to check for the length. Sorry you got bit. We also installed a metal roof. Ours is a standby seam roof but is just as slick as yours. Metal shavings will make it slick for sure, but so will a little of our fine desert dust. Our slope is 4/12. Got the last panel in place late in the evening and left the cap to be put on after the sun was up and everything dried off. Got in the roof at the cap and proceeded to ski down the roof to within 18” of the edge ... 12’ drop to the ground! Be careful up there. My “non-skid” boots skidded just fine. Take care.
You couldn't get me on a new metal 4:12 roof. Our solar shed is 2:12 and while installing the panels I was on my knees with out knee pads and learned quickly how slippery that stuff can be. Luckily I had a guy helping me who quickly grabbed me preventing me from taking a short ( but certainly painful ) 9 foot fall. As far as the trusses are concerned, live and learn. That 5 inches is the edge of a 3 foot overhang so it clearly won't cause any troubles. In fact, I had a roofer friend tell me just cover it with the ridge flashing. I wasn't going to do that but in any event, it's up. Now for the flashing.
Sorry, but according to the manufacturer I use the correct screw pattern for the metal roof. There are certain types of metal roofing where the screws go through the raised portion but for this profile I did it correctly. I even blended in the manufacturers schematic for screw pattern.
We've had 80 MPH micro burst hit us. This is awesome you guys. I'm sure you already know, but make sure you wash all of the metal from cutting and screwing off of your roof, other wise the particles will rust and ruin your roof. Also, metal primer any cut ends on your roof
Thanks for watching! We did know about the metal particals, but I had not thought of using the metal primer. We do have one cut edge that I will be sure to treat! Thanks for the tip!
32xin one program and then an additional 2xin my editing software. Ah if we could only get things done that quickly. We'd be breaking ground on Yvonne's she shed.
Funny, butel taping was Julie's job too! We were glad we rented a reach fork to get our panels on our garage. The side walls are over 18' tall. I rubber mallet and a piece of scrap 2x4 came in handy for us to do any realignments of the layed panels - that wind can be a bitch.
Bill, I'm really enjoying your series, so thanks for sharing so freely. Just a question regarding the screws holding down your roof sheets. Why insert screws through the sheets in the "trough" of the sheet as opposed to only the "peaks"? Rain water will inevitably flow down the troughs, and as the screws are sure to loosen over time that will allow water ingress. If you screw down only along the peaks, there's a lot less water that can penetrate the holes and cause underlying damage. Probably less of an issue in areas with low rainfall, but over time it could become a problem area requiring regular resealing of the screw heads with silicon or something similar.
I'll be talking about the screws. In the next video, bit to answer your question, I am using the screw pattern prescribed by the roofing manufacturer as well as the engineers. I have heard others say the same thing as you before, but the reason not screwing solely through the ridged, or humps is that torquing down the screws can deform the material. The screws I am using are called JXL screws and the rubber washer is completely encapsulated (covered) by the head of the screw which will offer it protection from the UV effects of the sun. They are 2X the price of traditional metal roofing screws but IMO are worth the price difference. I am all for trying new things out, but in this instance, I feel like following the instructions from the makers and engineers makes the most sense for us. I'm glad you enjoy our videos and we appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
@@theupsideofdownsizing There should be no 'torquing' on anything when using the proper screws properly, in the trough or on the ridge. These screws have a gasket washer to create a water tight seal around the hole they create in the roof. When you 'torque' the screws, you destroy this watertight seal and basically defeat the water proofing properties of the metal sheet, making your underlayment membrane do 100% of the waterproofing. If you don't get much rain, I guess, but why not just do it in a way to retain more of the metal roofing's waterproofing. Further, this reinforces the importance of material measurements including excesses needed. By having to extend the material with a patch of a few feet you create a leak source/weakness in the roof system. This is because of both the seam you create at the overlap which a) serves as a friction point to collect debris which will damage any sealant placed there to mitigate water leakage, b) collect water via capilary action/surface tense drawing, even hours after the rain event into the roof, even up hill in some cases, water into the seam and under the metal roof, and c) requires additional screws, which if placed in the valleys and not the peaks, compounds the issues of both a) and b) as well as creating even more leak points to develop. Honestly, I have NEVER, heard of a long teram metal roofing system that works better screwed in the valley instead of just on the peaks. Hope it all works for you. God bless.
We did briefly consider a rooftop deck, but we quickly dismissed it. Cost was a factor and honestly, we have more privacy from the ground level. From the rooftop, we see way too many houses.
Continually impressed on the husband wife team work! This is a rare thing!
Thank you 🙏
Bill & Yvonne love the ingenuity you borrowed from Derek on how to put up the metal sheets. These last few days I can definitely see how it would have been too windy to do that job until there was a lull in the gale force breezes! Loved the real time placement of the roof panels showing what a coordinated effort it took. One of your best vids folks. Enjoyed it a lot.
Thank you Don! The wind has certainly been a challenge but we took our opportunities when they presented themselves. I did get caught up there one time when the wind really started howling. I just had to hunker down for a minute, and wait for it to pass, and then scramble down the ladder. And my scrambling down a ladder takes a minute, especially getting in the ladder. 🤣
You’re so fortunate to have such great roof with great co workers. Very nice that the truss manufacturer was so stand up speaks volumes for the way they conduct business.
They are a great company to work with and I can wholeheartedly recommend them! And I don't get anything from them in return. But good companies deserve to be recognized!
Nice to have Doug as a neighbor,
So true!
That was super nice your neighbor came over and gave a hand.
Doug is a great guy. We're lucky to have him for a neighbor 🙏
The other thing about those metal shavings is that they will rust and stain your roof. Yvonne is really cleaning up! ;-)
Never thought of that. Good reason to give it a good final sweep after we're done up there!
Never cut with a grinder up on the roof, the hot sparks will burn the paint and also imbed shavings into the paint, we always used snips 👍🙂🇦🇺🇺🇲
Nice job done on getting the roof panels installed. Looks really nice.
Thanks CB. Combine my fear of heights with aching lower back and I will be glad when this is over!
Tolles Projekt, macht Spaß es zu verfolgen.
Vielen Dank!
They cut you a check for your screw-up? That's a pretty nice company
They admitted that they usually mention that the truss tails will not be the exact length ordered, but didn't tell me about it. And heck, I've sent them 4 customers already with my UA-cam videos so consider it a "bird dog" fee. 👍 But they are a great company to work with.
Bill I totally track with your logic on where to put the drip edge. ie. underneath the underlayment. I now am alerted to the fact I have no drip-edge at all on my small cottage. For a future building I am going to sit down and think about adding a drip edge. Arghhh having your trusses be wrongly sized must have been super frustrating! Understandable you would think that the trusses were a prescribed size! Great video. Very informative. I learned a lot. Also can relate to the crazy winds these days.
Everything is coming along beautifully, and the roof looks great!
I know I haven't been commenting lately, but just know that I am still keeping up with your progress, and rooting you on.
❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️
Thank you Laurie 👍 We appreciate your support and your comments 🙏
LOVE THE MUSIC BACKDROP...YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS!...;)
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Glad to see Doug is staying busy. Looks great!
Thanks Pam 😃
That is a nice roof and lots of surface to collect rainwater from.
We definitely have to figure out our cistern size and location. Derek and I have discussed it briefly already. That'll be a great project.
Vise grips and a rope work real well for dragging metal up to the roof. Looking good brother. Dont feel bad about not measuring, I have done the same thing in the past.
Thanks Bud, misery loves company. But it all worked out in the end, and that's all that matters. 👍
Habt Ihr wieder toll gemacht 👍👍🙂
Danke Dir! ❤️
That butyl is sticky the way you did it. Usually, you leave the paper on. Then you lay on the steel. You can then lift it ever so slightly and peel the tape. My brother and I did it this way as teens with a 100 foot long 40 wide steel arch matching shed. No matter- great work! Nice aerial view from the roof. Also nice to see the window view through the doorway. Thanks for the video.
That's a great idea! Never even considered doing it like that. 👍
Yes you guys wow that roof looks awesome! I'm so excited for you its all finally coming together x
Thanks so much! We will certainly be happy to have this part of the build behind us 😉
Looking great, can't wait to see it all finished (and maybe visit some day ;)! :)
Thanks for watching!
it is lookin good. cant wait for u to start plastering the walls. Great Job u guys.
Thanks! We are looking forward to getting those bales protected too. Just a couple more steps then the plastering can begin.
I believe the top flashing would be best on top of the paper and the bottom flashing underneath the paper,.
The way shingles are installed
I agree that's exactly how it's going to be done. The flashing on the low end is below the paper and the flashing on the top end which is actually the ridge flashing will be sitting on top of the panels. That's how this metal roof material is installed according to the manufacturer. 👍
@@theupsideofdownsizing looking good 👍🏼.
My wife and I are moving to Cochise at the end of this month. Get can’t wait to get our build started.
Great job, looks amazing and thank you for sharing.
Thanks again Daniel! 👍
Love it! You guys are a great team! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Chad!
Nice job! The roof is looking great! 👍🏼
Thanks! Looking forward to having it done.
Who knew! Interesting re the trusses.
I had no idea either. But that's why we like to stay flexible and the truss company was really great.
Looks amazing. You guys are so inspiring!
Thank you 🙏
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You might know that I'm a harbor freight fan! I'll be checking them out next time I'm there. Thanks for the tip.
On the top DE should be on top of shingles and on bottom under with a .5 inch overhang on the shingle to prevent water from going up the bottom of the shingle. 😎
We actually have a 2 in overhang on the low side to be sure that the rain run off lands in the gutter. The rainwater doesn't build up much speed on a 1:12 roof. Both the rake and ridge flashing will be on top of the panels preventing lift from the wind. Thanks for watching!
OMG!......a thing of beauty!!!!
I can feel your roofing pain. Fortunately I double checked our trusses to check for the length. Sorry you got bit. We also installed a metal roof. Ours is a standby seam roof but is just as slick as yours. Metal shavings will make it slick for sure, but so will a little of our fine desert dust. Our slope is 4/12. Got the last panel in place late in the evening and left the cap to be put on after the sun was up and everything dried off. Got in the roof at the cap and proceeded to ski down the roof to within 18” of the edge ... 12’ drop to the ground! Be careful up there. My “non-skid” boots skidded just fine. Take care.
You couldn't get me on a new metal 4:12 roof. Our solar shed is 2:12 and while installing the panels I was on my knees with out knee pads and learned quickly how slippery that stuff can be. Luckily I had a guy helping me who quickly grabbed me preventing me from taking a short ( but certainly painful ) 9 foot fall. As far as the trusses are concerned, live and learn. That 5 inches is the edge of a 3 foot overhang so it clearly won't cause any troubles. In fact, I had a roofer friend tell me just cover it with the ridge flashing. I wasn't going to do that but in any event, it's up. Now for the flashing.
@@theupsideofdownsizing FWIW, I stay off the roof now. I’m with you on not using just the cap! Good luck.
Awesome job guys.
Thanks for watching!
It almost looks fun! This project with big moving pieces is a show maker.
I wouldn't exactly call it fun, but there is something satisfying about laying out those big sheets. 👍
glad to see the roof going up and moving forward. stay safe and have a great day as well
You as well! We are really looking forward to having this part of the build done. We're almost there. 👍
Always under. First thing that goes up on a roof is the flashing. Valleys, jacks and perimeter.
very nice,
Thanks for watching!
Metal roofing screws go on the raised ridge part of the panels. Usually on the overlape.
Sorry, but according to the manufacturer I use the correct screw pattern for the metal roof. There are certain types of metal roofing where the screws go through the raised portion but for this profile I did it correctly. I even blended in the manufacturers schematic for screw pattern.
Nice job.
Thanks Hon Thirty
Nice job guys
Thanks! It's getting there. I've been up there for a couple of hours this morning getting it screwed down. A real lower back breaker.
We've had 80 MPH micro burst hit us. This is awesome you guys. I'm sure you already know, but make sure you wash all of the metal from cutting and screwing off of your roof, other wise the particles will rust and ruin your roof. Also, metal primer any cut ends on your roof
Thanks for watching! We did know about the metal particals, but I had not thought of using the metal primer. We do have one cut edge that I will be sure to treat! Thanks for the tip!
Y’all did a great job! We enjoyed the video 😊
Thanks for watching 👍
At 24 inches of fastener spacing, you must gets some hellacious winds out there? Great job!
We do indeed. In fact, just a couple of days ago we had 30 mph winds with gusts even higher. I was able to get off the roof just in time.
I like the speed you work on that drip edge :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
32xin one program and then an additional 2xin my editing software. Ah if we could only get things done that quickly. We'd be breaking ground on Yvonne's she shed.
Thats a pain about the truss lengths...but great cusomer service, with the check..
I guess I know where I'll be ordering my trusses!
Don't forget to tell them where you heard about them! I'm not getting anything from them, but I will remind them next time we buy trusses! 👍
Couldn't ask for better service. Southwest Truss in Sierra Vista AZ. Ask for Jim.
Yvonne is one in a thousand.
Sorry, but those odds are a little low IMO. 😉
@@theupsideofdownsizing 1 in a trillion nowadays!
Sorry your right, they are low.1 in a million is closer to many are self intitled.
Funny, butel taping was Julie's job too! We were glad we rented a reach fork to get our panels on our garage. The side walls are over 18' tall. I rubber mallet and a piece of scrap 2x4 came in handy for us to do any realignments of the layed panels - that wind can be a bitch.
That slight head wind really put the breaks on us when we were trying to walk those panels.
Bill, I'm really enjoying your series, so thanks for sharing so freely. Just a question regarding the screws holding down your roof sheets. Why insert screws through the sheets in the "trough" of the sheet as opposed to only the "peaks"? Rain water will inevitably flow down the troughs, and as the screws are sure to loosen over time that will allow water ingress. If you screw down only along the peaks, there's a lot less water that can penetrate the holes and cause underlying damage. Probably less of an issue in areas with low rainfall, but over time it could become a problem area requiring regular resealing of the screw heads with silicon or something similar.
I'll be talking about the screws. In the next video, bit to answer your question, I am using the screw pattern prescribed by the roofing manufacturer as well as the engineers. I have heard others say the same thing as you before, but the reason not screwing solely through the ridged, or humps is that torquing down the screws can deform the material. The screws I am using are called JXL screws and the rubber washer is completely encapsulated (covered) by the head of the screw which will offer it protection from the UV effects of the sun. They are 2X the price of traditional metal roofing screws but IMO are worth the price difference. I am all for trying new things out, but in this instance, I feel like following the instructions from the makers and engineers makes the most sense for us. I'm glad you enjoy our videos and we appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
@@theupsideofdownsizing "When in doubt, read the manual", so I'd go for the manufacturer's instructions every time!
@@theupsideofdownsizing There should be no 'torquing' on anything when using the proper screws properly, in the trough or on the ridge. These screws have a gasket washer to create a water tight seal around the hole they create in the roof.
When you 'torque' the screws, you destroy this watertight seal and basically defeat the water proofing properties of the metal sheet, making your underlayment membrane do 100% of the waterproofing.
If you don't get much rain, I guess, but why not just do it in a way to retain more of the metal roofing's waterproofing.
Further, this reinforces the importance of material measurements including excesses needed. By having to extend the material with a patch of a few feet you create a leak source/weakness in the roof system. This is because of both the seam you create at the overlap which a) serves as a friction point to collect debris which will damage any sealant placed there to mitigate water leakage, b) collect water via capilary action/surface tense drawing, even hours after the rain event into the roof, even up hill in some cases, water into the seam and under the metal roof, and c) requires additional screws, which if placed in the valleys and not the peaks, compounds the issues of both a) and b) as well as creating even more leak points to develop.
Honestly, I have NEVER, heard of a long teram metal roofing system that works better screwed in the valley instead of just on the peaks.
Hope it all works for you. God bless.
Any plans for a roof top deck? Sleep under the stars?
We did briefly consider a rooftop deck, but we quickly dismissed it. Cost was a factor and honestly, we have more privacy from the ground level. From the rooftop, we see way too many houses.
@@theupsideofdownsizing LOL, a roof deck wouldn't work for me that's for sure.
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Not your fault. They should have warned you about the rise going longer than the run.
Why the tape? Around here nobody uses that.
If you're doing a 1:12 pitch you really should use it. And at an additional cost of about $40, why not.