you should always use a go through or pass through socket and allen key to undo and tighten your top hats. using an impact gun runs the risk of blowing the seals on your dampers/shocks. if you blow them you'll only find that out once you start driving it, then your up for new ones and re-installation. bit more work but could save you some $$ and time later on.
An FYI: MacPherson strut is a style of suspension - both the stock and aftermarket front coilovers are MacPherson struts. The rear suspension is multi-link (poor-mans double wishbone lol) so they are not MacPherson struts, just regular coil-over-dampers. If it’s got more than 1 bolt hole at the bottom, it’s a MacPherson strut. AFAIK we colloquially call aftermarket suspension coilovers because OEM stock suspension in the past often separated the spring and damper (still done today in compact cars and trucks) which are typically replaced with one piece coil-overs in the performance aftermarket.
Great vid, though I put Tein lowering springs 15mm drop on my 2012 stock shocks, after a while 2 of them started leaking. So I replaced shocks with Koni yellow shocks and kept the Tein lowering springs. If your lowering with lowering springs, and your stock shocks are a few years old, I’d recommend getting new shocks that are designed to take lowering springs.
At that point you might as well get coilovers though. When you add together the cost of all new shocks + springs you can get a decent set of coilovers for the same price.
Since you gonna need a wheel alignement... Might as well change the rear lower control arms while at it. So you can dial back all that extra negative camber. Exessive Drop induced Neg. Camber makes Axles snap like twigs on these cars. (On launches) Also: Could of been paired up with a set of koni shocks. Stock shocks hates lowering springs to death... quite litteraly.
@@cocolopz1 Broo. Please don't say that 😥 I JUST returned from a famous local Auto Parts store and I took pictures of their orange Megan Racing lowering springs. I was legit going to buy them. What was was.the problem with them bro? I'm planning on putting them on my stock struts on my Corolla Axio. Would you say it was too stiff? I'm looking to lower my car but I daily drive my car and our roads are FILLED with potholes and every sort of road undulation. Also, what's the difference with TRD lowering springs? Do you have a link? Need your advice bro.
@@PrinceJaredJ yeah their way too stiff and it lowered my car too much. I dont know about the corolla ones they could be good. I suggest u watch corolla megan racing springs.
@@cocolopz1 Are they different for each car? I thought the Megam Racing lowering springs were the same for a lot of cars. But I was able to take it out of the box and take a picture. The Manager said it will fit on my Corolla. I also just watched a video of a guy[here on UA-cam] installing it on his 2017 Corolla. He said it was just right, relating that it got slighty stiffer but wasn't as soft and bouncy as before. I also just saw a video on guy's 2007 Civic and he had them on sport shocks and he said they were "soft" and he daily's his car. He even said in his video that it was too soft around corners and didn't chain him to the road so these reviews sound good for me. I hate stuff rides and I'm irritated when I'm in a car and it crashes and bumps you through your body when you hit bumps, potholes and undulations. I daily my car and am a delivery driver but I want a slightly lower look with some comfort. Right now I'm on clouds [it's incredibly comfortable] but I'm too high.
I'm so sad you said you were putting the MacPherson strut back into the car. MacPherson strut is a type of suspension geometry. So even with coilovers, you still have a MacPherson strut, only in the front. The rear isn't a MacPherson strut
Where did you get those torque specs from? They don't match the factory service manual, nor your earlier videos. The biggest differences is 89 on the rear bolts that should really be 59.
What's good brother. Tein street basis is 5kgf/mm front & 6kgf in the rear.you can go +2 on coil overs especially if going lower so your car doesn't get all bouncy and scrape everything.Get more adjustability via a shorter 8kgf spring. The front is a 5-inch spring. The rear is 6 inches I believe. Get a 65mm 5" 8kgf in the rear and a 65mm 4" 8kgf in the front...that's one more inch of gain.
@@bluboi888 ua-cam.com/video/_k0Gjre1QlY/v-deo.html should get you an idea of what it all means. you could spend a night just watching videos on the subject to get a better idea. i never tested the sachs suspension personally.
When a camber bolt isnt enough and you dont want to make the jump to coilovers that have them. However some high end coilovers liek KWs dont come with camber plates. www.ft86speedfactory.com/suspension-38/coilover-systems.html
Is it necessary to get something to raise the diff / subframe after lowering the 86 due to it changing the angle of the axles ? If so can you do an install video for those parts?
Y’all should’ve showed what it looks like on the floor🙄
you should always use a go through or pass through socket and allen key to undo and tighten your top hats. using an impact gun runs the risk of blowing the seals on your dampers/shocks. if you blow them you'll only find that out once you start driving it, then your up for new ones and re-installation. bit more work but could save you some $$ and time later on.
How can I tell if I blew the seals on the damper/shocks? Would there be oil leaking out of the strut or clunking noises?
An FYI: MacPherson strut is a style of suspension - both the stock and aftermarket front coilovers are MacPherson struts. The rear suspension is multi-link (poor-mans double wishbone lol) so they are not MacPherson struts, just regular coil-over-dampers. If it’s got more than 1 bolt hole at the bottom, it’s a MacPherson strut.
AFAIK we colloquially call aftermarket suspension coilovers because OEM stock suspension in the past often separated the spring and damper (still done today in compact cars and trucks) which are typically replaced with one piece coil-overs in the performance aftermarket.
Perfect timing, I’m putting my springs on this weekend🙌🏻
very nice clear and good quality video. I have to do those lowering springs too. Keep it up
I have really been waiting for this video on how to install lowering springs. Thanks so much guys🔥🤙
You couldn't take a shot of the car before/after?
Alexander car had coil overs already
Thank you so much feel much more confident changing my strut
Great vid, though I put Tein lowering springs 15mm drop on my 2012 stock shocks, after a while 2 of them started leaking. So I replaced shocks with Koni yellow shocks and kept the Tein lowering springs. If your lowering with lowering springs, and your stock shocks are a few years old, I’d recommend getting new shocks that are designed to take lowering springs.
At that point you might as well get coilovers though. When you add together the cost of all new shocks + springs you can get a decent set of coilovers for the same price.
I got quoted $1,200 for something that can be done in 20 min 🤣 thank you for this video it was to easy
Since you gonna need a wheel alignement...
Might as well change the rear lower control arms while at it.
So you can dial back all that extra negative camber. Exessive Drop induced Neg. Camber makes Axles snap like twigs on these cars.
(On launches)
Also: Could of been paired up with a set of koni shocks. Stock shocks hates lowering springs to death... quite litteraly.
Stank huh!!! Ahguuuuu !
You guys sure on the torque specs?
What a coincidence. UPS just delivered my Megan racing lowering springs. Iam going to install the lowering springs on my frs tomorrow morning.
How were they on your car? Did you like them?
@@7002Dreamer Did not like them threw them away after 2 weeks of use and got trd lowering springs which are way better
@@cocolopz1 Broo. Please don't say that 😥 I JUST returned from a famous local Auto Parts store and I took pictures of their orange Megan Racing lowering springs. I was legit going to buy them.
What was was.the problem with them bro? I'm planning on putting them on my stock struts on my Corolla Axio.
Would you say it was too stiff? I'm looking to lower my car but I daily drive my car and our roads are FILLED with potholes and every sort of road undulation.
Also, what's the difference with TRD lowering springs? Do you have a link?
Need your advice bro.
@@PrinceJaredJ yeah their way too stiff and it lowered my car too much. I dont know about the corolla ones they could be good. I suggest u watch corolla megan racing springs.
@@cocolopz1 Are they different for each car? I thought the Megam Racing lowering springs were the same for a lot of cars.
But I was able to take it out of the box and take a picture. The Manager said it will fit on my Corolla. I also just watched a video of a guy[here on UA-cam] installing it on his 2017 Corolla. He said it was just right, relating that it got slighty stiffer but wasn't as soft and bouncy as before.
I also just saw a video on guy's 2007 Civic and he had them on sport shocks and he said they were "soft" and he daily's his car. He even said in his video that it was too soft around corners and didn't chain him to the road so these reviews sound good for me. I hate stuff rides and I'm irritated when I'm in a car and it crashes and bumps you through your body when you hit bumps, potholes and undulations. I daily my car and am a delivery driver but I want a slightly lower look with some comfort. Right now I'm on clouds [it's incredibly comfortable] but I'm too high.
the rear is not a mcpherson strut, its just a coil over shock design with a multilink, mcpherson strut refers to the front suspension design
4:57 you say "so this goes from the rear forward", but before (1:20) you had it installed the opposite way. What's the correct way?
+1 wtf? which way do they go back on? good catch
Go look at your car... whichever way they are on there... that's the way they go back on.
Does using and just replacing the springs in the long term cause damage to the car or the suspension system or anything?
bruh i was really hoping you were gonna show some static profile shots with the car on the ground :'(
9:24 - 9:56 Ok but how do you know when all the bolts are torqued down to where they're supposed to be?
can you do this job without a passthrough wrench or an impact drill?
No impact needed. Passthrough will be needed to tighten the strut nuts on the all 4 struts.
I'm so sad you said you were putting the MacPherson strut back into the car. MacPherson strut is a type of suspension geometry. So even with coilovers, you still have a MacPherson strut, only in the front. The rear isn't a MacPherson strut
where can i buy some bump stops? i bought some springs but they didn’t come with them :/
Same here. Is just trimmed the existing ones with the lowering distance the new springs say they have. 🙂
@@erj1993 that’s smart, i just reused mine 😂🤦🏻♂️
Where did you get those torque specs from? They don't match the factory service manual, nor your earlier videos. The biggest differences is 89 on the rear bolts that should really be 59.
^ this. bolts front strut to knuckle is 114 not 129 as well.
Timur Iskhodzhanov Just wondering but what will happen if the bolts aren’t torqued to the proper torque spec?
Bruh literally every place I've looked up says something different what the hell is right
Bc brs are sooooo nice for what you pay for them ride way nicer than oem struts n springs
Quick but dumb question, when buying the springs, do i select 4 in quantity or just 1 as in 1 being a full set of springs or 1 individual spring?
Stank! Lol aghhhhhhh huh!
what made you guys decide to go lowering springs instead of keeping the coilovers?
No reason probably just for a tutorial
Any spring upgrade I can put on the tein street basis? I want to get a lower height then what I have and don’t want to buy whole now coil overs
What's good brother. Tein street basis is 5kgf/mm front & 6kgf in the rear.you can go +2 on coil overs especially if going lower so your car doesn't get all bouncy and scrape everything.Get more adjustability via a shorter 8kgf spring. The front is a 5-inch spring. The rear is 6 inches I believe. Get a 65mm 5" 8kgf in the rear and a 65mm 4" 8kgf in the front...that's one more inch of gain.
Someone explain all the suspension components for my noob self, like whtsthe difference between dampners, strusts, spring etc.
My 2018 86gts came with upgraded sachs suspension and I dunno what it means😂
@@bluboi888 ua-cam.com/video/_k0Gjre1QlY/v-deo.html should get you an idea of what it all means. you could spend a night just watching videos on the subject to get a better idea. i never tested the sachs suspension personally.
@@russellbus9933 thank you👍
When do you actually need to buy camber plates?
When a camber bolt isnt enough and you dont want to make the jump to coilovers that have them. However some high end coilovers liek KWs dont come with camber plates.
www.ft86speedfactory.com/suspension-38/coilover-systems.html
Is it necessary to get something to raise the diff / subframe after lowering the 86 due to it changing the angle of the axles ? If so can you do an install video for those parts?
not necessary unless you are lowered by an absurd amount or a hardcore track rat and want to keep proper geometry of the car
Gain train I see
The right way
8:20 flesh light??
You said you changing the Springs but you just change the whole suspension
He put the stock ones on basically and then put the lowering springs on the factory
No clip of the actual drop????????????? lol
Wassup everyone!
2nd
Well, I guess torque specs are irrelevant
Hyrum Beck he gave all the numbers at the end 😬
It’s torqued to 4 ugga duggas on the impact obviously 😂