You are a Fantastic Instructer in updating us with the Theories and Body Mechanics of Wing Chun. It would be nice if you could explain each technique and applications in the wing chun forms, how to use it in self defence in todays time. As there are a lot of instructors out there are only showing you the forms and no real applications to a street fight. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind message. And I will put some videos on application. But actually its not correct in my opinion to look at the empty hand forms as techniques for fighting. They are actually to develop a state within the body and mind and to embody principles. The techniques are then applied within partner train and chisau and free sparring. I actually have literally dozens of hours of footage on our online school www.mindfulwingchun.online but will eventually get around ot putting some on UA-cam for those who arent on the online program 🙏🙏
cheers and glad you enjoyed it Joseph. looking forward to training with you too. You are probably on it already but if not check out my online school www.mindfulwingchun.online as we're running a free weekly trial there. I've spent 5years on it full-time and still adding content :)
very good video and very informative. I hope one day to meet and learn from you or exchange ideas. if your ever in New York or in the U.S. please let me know thank you
Thanks for the kind words. And yes it was on my plans to visit NY in 2020 but then covid happened. Now Hong Kong is unfortunately the most strictest place in the world with covid and travel rules so probably another couple of years before we can travel again. However, you are probably a;ready on it but if not, I've spent the last 5 years working on our online school and still working on adding videos to it. So if interested in this method definitely check it out www.mindfulwingchun.online We have a free trial on there too so you can give it a try.
Mindful Wing Chun, I assume you are the person giving the demonstration in the video, can you please explain what you meant in the video when you said at 2:45 and beyond, where you say it's not the relaxing of the shoulders that gives the expansion and relaxation it's the coat hanger effect. Can you please explain. Is there a video of you explaining this. I personally find that even after years of training everyone does stiffen their shoulders, especially when they are hit and being hit. It's something i'm trying to "delete" from my muscle memory." I do however completely understand your bone structure and relaxation explaination. It's still strong and using joints and bone structure but you are relaxed and expanding and it's still very strong, but it knows when to also give with the energy. But I'd like more information on what you said about the lowering and relaxing of the shoulders and the Hanger theory you spoke of.
Hi Brian. Yes I (Nima) am the person doing the demo here. So in this method we tap into the joints through Nim Tao (which is the main purpose of practicing SNT). the 'on-switch' for this is Taigung and Seng which basically means we internally relax the hips, and the spine and it feels like when the spine is decompressed and held with the mind, the shoulder girdle h=can hang off and decompress even while under pressure. There should be a couple of videos on this channel talking about Taigung and Seng but honestly without trying to sell the online school, this stuff I present systematically through hours and hours of footage in there so I highly recommend you check it out www.mindfulwingchun.online We have 30day money back guarantee on it so ppl can try it out for a montha nd see if they dig everything about it and if not they get a refund. Noone has stopped their subscription from the 100ppl who have subscribed since 24/12/2018
question? so instead of some lineages that say you should sink your your horse stance I shouldn't sink? but I should straighten my spin as if I were standing straight up? because I would LOVE to learn how to do this! seriously
+masterninja03 yes mate, you should try and allow the muscles of the legs and the lower half relax too rather than sitting down into the legs. The feeling should be very uprightin the spine and all other joints feel open and expanded (rather and sinking and contracted). Through this upright and open postural feeling we can let all the muscles hang like a jacket hanging off. The aim is to search for effortlessness in all we do :)
The only problem with that is that you have a tendency to raise your center of gravity, allowing someone to be able to take you down easier. If you just lower the rear leg just two to three inches, it gives you a stronger structure, allows you to push off better with the back leg, giving you stronger, faster techniques, faster footwork, more power in your strikes, and gives you FORWARD INTENT, which is one of the ten concepts. It pushes the front knee slightly forward, along with body, which maintains a straight up and down position (with the body slightly rolled forward, to flatten the lower back, as if exhaling), which keeps the balance equal. This forward intent makes your opponent, if he is skilled, try to equalize the forward pressure. He does this by leaning forward, unbalancing himself and making it easier to break his structure. If he doesn't equalize the pressure, then your energy, which is moving forward, will override his energy, which is going backwards, and your strike will get through do to overwhelming forward force. This also allows you to kick without losing balance, if you strike someone, without telegraphing your intent.
Hello Sifu Nima.. I am just wondering if is it possible to learn your teachings by just watching your videos (but yeah I do understand that I have to feel it) is it okay to ask for a guidelines to understand the internal works? What's the sensation like? Thank you
+Ryo Hi, I think if you can get a simple idea to work on it will greatly improve your training. But it will be a lot more difficult without some tactile guidance. I think if you can patiently and persistently practice SiuNimTao daily with the intentions of mindful relaxation (and staying upright) you will definitely feel benefits. The degree of benefits will depend on the amount of correct training. I'll try my best to keep the videos coming and I hope it can help people around the world that I can't touch hands with. cheers Ryo, Nima
+Mindful Wing Chun sifu is there a tingling sensation that's rising up the spine up to the head? I can feel something that makes it a really good feeling?? what should be the next step after that sifu? I really wanna get the idea of tai gung but I don't have sufficient money yet to go to hong kong to train with you but one of these days, I'm sure to go there... so for now I'll try my best to understand your teachings.. Thank you!
+Ryo Yes a tingling (releasing) sensation moving up the spine is a good sign. I recommend to just continue practicing the way you are and try to relax deeper and heighten your focus more. Don't try and add to the tingling sensation and don't worry if it goes away. So basically don't try too hard! Just enjoy the training and do more of it. Gradually you will start to sense your body as 1 connected unit and then its time to find it's center of mass through the practice of Chum Kiu :) Would be great to meet you one day too mate. cheers!
Good stuff! the next step is to try and perform every movement with as little muscles as possible. Try and soften all muscles especially the back muscles and those around the spine and pelvis area. By the way we are working on an online course so hopefully by this time next year something will be ready for people like yourself who want to follow this method of wing chun step by step. cheers
@10:13.. leading hand should be pushed in Tan Sao or Bong Sao its depent of the direction of force!. .instead of block with a Bong if u Block whit Bong u mis the point..be like water and adapt force.....
the aim of this exercise it to test the speed of the step and punch. Yes, the partner can use anything they want to try and stop the incoming punch, but the point is, as you can see later when Nima demonstrates, that if its performed fast enough, the partner will not have the chance to even make contact with the incoming punch let alone use a structure to stop it.. So, this exercise is to test the speed of the person stepping and punching...
9:02 the kid doing the bong should be doing it with a shift or stepping turn. Bong is never done directly up like that, even when doing chi sao we should shift or step to the side, even Don chi sao (1handed) it's best when doing exercises to do the bong with a shift properly. But besides that, everyone in the seminars you pull up are very terrible at punching. I don't mean to be insulting. Watching this video makes me feel like i'm better than I am lol. People are either throwing a punch way to stiff or so relaxed it's got no bone structure at all behind it.
Hi Brian, yes everyone in this seminar where pretty much at a beginner level. However, regarding the Bong Sau, once its done properly (using the joint correctly), the Bongsau can attack and defend simultaneously without needing to shift the body. Nearly all other Wing Chun Lineages use Bong Sau the way you described it but not in this lineage and in my seminars at other schools, Bong Sau is usually where I begin to demonstrate the difference in understanding.. I talk about this very briefly in the interview I did with the martial man. Check out this video at the 14th minute: ua-cam.com/video/x-71qg53gVQ/v-deo.html
lol, you sure do spend a lot of time watching every single video on this channel and comment on them. tapping on the keyboard wont lead to growth in this case
Premoving? I think the word you are GROPING for is he is TELEGRAPHING his punch through the movement of the outward elbow, which has to move FIRST before anything else, letting you know the punch is coming! All boxing derivatives telegraph their intent because of the outward elbow, no matter what system it is. Since the elbow in wing chun is BEHIND the fist, and we initiate the movement with the elbow, this makes it very difficult to detect the sudden movement because of the fist, which blocks the elbow, and the fact that most concentrate on the fist and foot instead of the forward elbow and knee! The elbow and knee move at one half speed during a jab or straight kick, and one quarter speed during a hook or roundhouse kick. So you have a much better chance of catching it watching the elbow and knee. Tell me something, why is that so hard to explain? This is the problem I always have with you wing chun instructors! It seems to me that you don't know the system well enough to explain it in a way a rank beginner, someone who has NEVER had a lesson or heard of wing chun, can understand. See how I explained it? That's how YOU and all the others should be explaining your lessons. Or, some just don't speak English well enough to translate it into an explanation that a beginner can understand. This is a major problem and one of the reasons, I believe, that wing chun has lost its effectiveness (the modified version) over the generations. Teaching someone to blast in with chain punches is just wrong and very dangerous! This is what they are teaching in Europe now, especially Germany. The ONLY way wing chun works is when you use INITIAL CONTACT first to determine the type and direction of the strike, then from there you can either push the arm past center, causing an opening you can exploit, or you can MAKE AND MAINTAIN contact, as per the late great MASTER WONG SHUN LEUNG, following in his center of mass, trapping the arm AND leg, and finishing the fight quickly!! I would like to correct this ridiculous thinking that knowing an incomplete system, such as your modified system, is going to work well on the streets. Only ONE modified system works well on the streets, and that system is Wong Shun Leung's system because HE broke the system down to its core and found a way around the missing footwork by maintaining contact and entering in quickly! Modified has been changed and CRUCIAL elements, taken out, making the system much less effective than the original traditional system, which IS a complete system! Elements such as the correct stance (50/50 or 60/40, not 70/30, which sends your energy BACKWARD, not FORWARD) as it should and is a very crucial concept. This allows the opponent to overrun your energy with his, and his attack WILL get through! It is also missing the very crucial footwork (the circle inside the triangle), including the angled step to the outside of the attacking arm and a body rotation towards the attack to not only see it coming, but to stop it as well. THIS movement protects both centers, the center and central line! This isn't taught in modified as well. This simple movement pulls your body away from the attack and allows you to make contact and enter in SAFELY! Modified also only uses six of ten concepts, which adds lawed and stiffness, unlike its traditional cousin, which has NO initial flaws or stiffness due to the use of ALL TEN CONCEPTS AT ONCE! Even taking out ONE, such as the triangle, can weaken the structure, which weakens all other aspects of the system, such as your ability to maintain your structure, move forward quickly without having to RUN in, and weakens your techniques and strikes as well! This is why they don't do so well in ring fighting, because they don't know the whole system (which makes it work most effectively and efficiently). It is also why they don't do too well on the streets as well. For a system to work properly, it must have ALL the elements intact, including wing chun grappling (which uses all ten concepts), complete knowledge and UNDERSTANDING of the system (which, as I said above, many don't have). Only then will you be able to use this system effectively and efficiently against ALL OTHER SYSTEMS!
thanks for taking the time to share your opinion in such depth. In my experience, not all boxers and other martial artists telegraph and non-telegraphing is not only unique to Wing Chun...
Hi mightymeatmonsta, thank you for sharing your experience. I have some questions regarding the Wong Shun Leung lineage vs. the complete wing chun system. What is the best way to contact you?
You are a Fantastic Instructer in updating us with the Theories and Body Mechanics of Wing Chun.
It would be nice if you could explain each technique and applications in the wing chun forms, how to use it in self defence in todays time.
As there are a lot of instructors out there are only showing you the forms and no real applications to a street fight. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind message. And I will put some videos on application. But actually its not correct in my opinion to look at the empty hand forms as techniques for fighting. They are actually to develop a state within the body and mind and to embody principles. The techniques are then applied within partner train and chisau and free sparring. I actually have literally dozens of hours of footage on our online school www.mindfulwingchun.online but will eventually get around ot putting some on UA-cam for those who arent on the online program 🙏🙏
Beautiful teaching. Win Chun is an "inner" art. I like that you mentioned "sensing" the intention. Most teachers don't speak of this.
Many thanks David!!
Very valuable tips and things to take note! really enjoyed your teaching!
thank you for the kind comment and happy to hear you found this useful! All the best in your practice!
Thanks for the tip sifu! I appreciate it!
Cheers.
Happy to hear you liked it. always a pleasure to share with people who appreciate it and put it to practice :)
Very very well explained, Thank you sir
Glad you thought so Vinayak!
Great informative vid as per usual.Many thanks.
thanks and I'm glad your enjoying the videos!!
I love the video, I can't wait until I can get out there to train with you.
cheers and glad you enjoyed it Joseph. looking forward to training with you too. You are probably on it already but if not check out my online school www.mindfulwingchun.online as we're running a free weekly trial there. I've spent 5years on it full-time and still adding content :)
Very good instructor!
Many thanks :)
very good video and very informative. I hope one day to meet and learn from you or exchange ideas. if your ever in New York or in the U.S. please let me know thank you
Thanks for the kind words. And yes it was on my plans to visit NY in 2020 but then covid happened. Now Hong Kong is unfortunately the most strictest place in the world with covid and travel rules so probably another couple of years before we can travel again. However, you are probably a;ready on it but if not, I've spent the last 5 years working on our online school and still working on adding videos to it. So if interested in this method definitely check it out www.mindfulwingchun.online We have a free trial on there too so you can give it a try.
Mindful Wing Chun, I assume you are the person giving the demonstration in the video, can you please explain what you meant in the video when you said at 2:45 and beyond, where you say it's not the relaxing of the shoulders that gives the expansion and relaxation it's the coat hanger effect. Can you please explain. Is there a video of you explaining this. I personally find that even after years of training everyone does stiffen their shoulders, especially when they are hit and being hit. It's something i'm trying to "delete" from my muscle memory." I do however completely understand your bone structure and relaxation explaination. It's still strong and using joints and bone structure but you are relaxed and expanding and it's still very strong, but it knows when to also give with the energy. But I'd like more information on what you said about the lowering and relaxing of the shoulders and the Hanger theory you spoke of.
Hi Brian. Yes I (Nima) am the person doing the demo here. So in this method we tap into the joints through Nim Tao (which is the main purpose of practicing SNT). the 'on-switch' for this is Taigung and Seng which basically means we internally relax the hips, and the spine and it feels like when the spine is decompressed and held with the mind, the shoulder girdle h=can hang off and decompress even while under pressure. There should be a couple of videos on this channel talking about Taigung and Seng but honestly without trying to sell the online school, this stuff I present systematically through hours and hours of footage in there so I highly recommend you check it out www.mindfulwingchun.online We have 30day money back guarantee on it so ppl can try it out for a montha nd see if they dig everything about it and if not they get a refund. Noone has stopped their subscription from the 100ppl who have subscribed since 24/12/2018
question? so instead of some lineages that say you should sink your your horse stance I shouldn't sink? but I should straighten my spin as if I were standing straight up? because I would LOVE to learn how to do this! seriously
+masterninja03 yes mate, you should try and allow the muscles of the legs and the lower half relax too rather than sitting down into the legs. The feeling should be very uprightin the spine and all other joints feel open and expanded (rather and sinking and contracted). Through this upright and open postural feeling we can let all the muscles hang like a jacket hanging off.
The aim is to search for effortlessness in all we do :)
The only problem with that is that you have a tendency to raise your center of gravity, allowing someone to be able to take you down easier. If you just lower the rear leg just two to three inches, it gives you a stronger structure, allows you to push off better with the back leg, giving you stronger, faster techniques, faster footwork, more power in your strikes, and gives you FORWARD INTENT, which is one of the ten concepts. It pushes the front knee slightly forward, along with body, which maintains a straight up and down position (with the body slightly rolled forward, to flatten the lower back, as if exhaling), which keeps the balance equal. This forward intent makes your opponent, if he is skilled, try to equalize the forward pressure. He does this by leaning forward, unbalancing himself and making it easier to break his structure. If he doesn't equalize the pressure, then your energy, which is moving forward, will override his energy, which is going backwards, and your strike will get through do to overwhelming forward force. This also allows you to kick without losing balance, if you strike someone, without telegraphing your intent.
good stuff.
Thank you!
Hello Sifu Nima.. I am just wondering if is it possible to learn your teachings by just watching your videos (but yeah I do understand that I have to feel it) is it okay to ask for a guidelines to understand the internal works? What's the sensation like? Thank you
+Ryo Hi, I think if you can get a simple idea to work on it will greatly improve your training. But it will be a lot more difficult without some tactile guidance. I think if you can patiently and persistently practice SiuNimTao daily with the intentions of mindful relaxation (and staying upright) you will definitely feel benefits. The degree of benefits will depend on the amount of correct training.
I'll try my best to keep the videos coming and I hope it can help people around the world that I can't touch hands with.
cheers Ryo,
Nima
+Mindful Wing Chun sifu is there a tingling sensation that's rising up the spine up to the head? I can feel something that makes it a really good feeling?? what should be the next step after that sifu? I really wanna get the idea of tai gung but I don't have sufficient money yet to go to hong kong to train with you but one of these days, I'm sure to go there... so for now I'll try my best to understand your teachings.. Thank you!
+Ryo Yes a tingling (releasing) sensation moving up the spine is a good sign. I recommend to just continue practicing the way you are and try to relax deeper and heighten your focus more. Don't try and add to the tingling sensation and don't worry if it goes away. So basically don't try too hard! Just enjoy the training and do more of it. Gradually you will start to sense your body as 1 connected unit and then its time to find it's center of mass through the practice of Chum Kiu :)
Would be great to meet you one day too mate. cheers!
Good stuff! the next step is to try and perform every movement with as little muscles as possible. Try and soften all muscles especially the back muscles and those around the spine and pelvis area.
By the way we are working on an online course so hopefully by this time next year something will be ready for people like yourself who want to follow this method of wing chun step by step.
cheers
@10:13.. leading hand should be pushed in Tan Sao or Bong Sao its depent of the direction of force!. .instead of block with a Bong if u Block whit Bong u mis the point..be like water and adapt force.....
the aim of this exercise it to test the speed of the step and punch. Yes, the partner can use anything they want to try and stop the incoming punch, but the point is, as you can see later when Nima demonstrates, that if its performed fast enough, the partner will not have the chance to even make contact with the incoming punch let alone use a structure to stop it.. So, this exercise is to test the speed of the person stepping and punching...
with the punches being lower, why don't you have them practise blocking with outside tan sao
That's definitely an option as well...
Hi Nima at 3:15 you say its by doing "this" and it gets cut off. What was "this"?
Hey Jacobe,
I was referring to activating the 'nim tao' state through applying Taigung and lifting (expanding/decompressing) up the spine.
9:02 the kid doing the bong should be doing it with a shift or stepping turn. Bong is never done directly up like that, even when doing chi sao we should shift or step to the side, even Don chi sao (1handed) it's best when doing exercises to do the bong with a shift properly. But besides that, everyone in the seminars you pull up are very terrible at punching. I don't mean to be insulting. Watching this video makes me feel like i'm better than I am lol. People are either throwing a punch way to stiff or so relaxed it's got no bone structure at all behind it.
Hi Brian, yes everyone in this seminar where pretty much at a beginner level. However, regarding the Bong Sau, once its done properly (using the joint correctly), the Bongsau can attack and defend simultaneously without needing to shift the body. Nearly all other Wing Chun Lineages use Bong Sau the way you described it but not in this lineage and in my seminars at other schools, Bong Sau is usually where I begin to demonstrate the difference in understanding.. I talk about this very briefly in the interview I did with the martial man. Check out this video at the 14th minute: ua-cam.com/video/x-71qg53gVQ/v-deo.html
Black Dynomite
not sure how that's relevant here but sounds great :)
I think someone put magic mushrooms in this guys coffee
lol, you sure do spend a lot of time watching every single video on this channel and comment on them. tapping on the keyboard wont lead to growth in this case
Premoving? I think the word you are GROPING for is he is TELEGRAPHING his punch through the movement of the outward elbow, which has to move FIRST before anything else, letting you know the punch is coming! All boxing derivatives telegraph their intent because of the outward elbow, no matter what system it is. Since the elbow in wing chun is BEHIND the fist, and we initiate the movement with the elbow, this makes it very difficult to detect the sudden movement because of the fist, which blocks the elbow, and the fact that most concentrate on the fist and foot instead of the forward elbow and knee! The elbow and knee move at one half speed during a jab or straight kick, and one quarter speed during a hook or roundhouse kick. So you have a much better chance of catching it watching the elbow and knee. Tell me something, why is that so hard to explain? This is the problem I always have with you wing chun instructors! It seems to me that you don't know the system well enough to explain it in a way a rank beginner, someone who has NEVER had a lesson or heard of wing chun, can understand. See how I explained it? That's how YOU and all the others should be explaining your lessons. Or, some just don't speak English well enough to translate it into an explanation that a beginner can understand. This is a major problem and one of the reasons, I believe, that wing chun has lost its effectiveness (the modified version) over the generations. Teaching someone to blast in with chain punches is just wrong and very dangerous! This is what they are teaching in Europe now, especially Germany. The ONLY way wing chun works is when you use INITIAL CONTACT first to determine the type and direction of the strike, then from there you can either push the arm past center, causing an opening you can exploit, or you can MAKE AND MAINTAIN contact, as per the late great MASTER WONG SHUN LEUNG, following in his center of mass, trapping the arm AND leg, and finishing the fight quickly!! I would like to correct this ridiculous thinking that knowing an incomplete system, such as your modified system, is going to work well on the streets. Only ONE modified system works well on the streets, and that system is Wong Shun Leung's system because HE broke the system down to its core and found a way around the missing footwork by maintaining contact and entering in quickly! Modified has been changed and CRUCIAL elements, taken out, making the system much less effective than the original traditional system, which IS a complete system! Elements such as the correct stance (50/50 or 60/40, not 70/30, which sends your energy BACKWARD, not FORWARD) as it should and is a very crucial concept. This allows the opponent to overrun your energy with his, and his attack WILL get through! It is also missing the very crucial footwork (the circle inside the triangle), including the angled step to the outside of the attacking arm and a body rotation towards the attack to not only see it coming, but to stop it as well. THIS movement protects both centers, the center and central line! This isn't taught in modified as well. This simple movement pulls your body away from the attack and allows you to make contact and enter in SAFELY! Modified also only uses six of ten concepts, which adds lawed and stiffness, unlike its traditional cousin, which has NO initial flaws or stiffness due to the use of ALL TEN CONCEPTS AT ONCE! Even taking out ONE, such as the triangle, can weaken the structure, which weakens all other aspects of the system, such as your ability to maintain your structure, move forward quickly without having to RUN in, and weakens your techniques and strikes as well! This is why they don't do so well in ring fighting, because they don't know the whole system (which makes it work most effectively and efficiently). It is also why they don't do too well on the streets as well. For a system to work properly, it must have ALL the elements intact, including wing chun grappling (which uses all ten concepts), complete knowledge and UNDERSTANDING of the system (which, as I said above, many don't have). Only then will you be able to use this system effectively and efficiently against ALL OTHER SYSTEMS!
thanks for taking the time to share your opinion in such depth. In my experience, not all boxers and other martial artists telegraph and non-telegraphing is not only unique to Wing Chun...
Hi mightymeatmonsta, thank you for sharing your experience.
I have some questions regarding the Wong Shun Leung lineage vs. the complete wing chun system.
What is the best way to contact you?
Hi I'm new to Wing Chun but interested on the different lineages, who is Wong Shun Leung Lineage? @@austinpatrick2978
the more you babble, .....
The more you get excited? !
@@MindfulWingChun Hmm, its too much. Let they more try and feel self.