The Time That Pre-Sliced Bread was Illegal
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In 1943, Claude R. Wickard, the head of the War Foods Administration as well as the Secretary of Agriculture, got the bright idea to ban pre-sliced bread in America, which he did on January 18, 1943. The specific reasons behind this aren’t entirely clear, though it was about conservation of resources, particularly generally thought to have been about conserving wax paper, wheat, and steel.
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Considering that the U.S. currently bans kinder surprise eggs, banning sliced bread back in 1943 seems normal.
You want to put pieces of plastic in chocolate eggs?
Good, we dont.
Joseph Ang Fear the chocolate egg... the new american rally call.
I know there's a concern over children choking on the surprise inside, but I'm sure lawsuits over the choking risk are a factor too. Too many people in the US try to use the courts like a lottery. Look at the guy who sued McDonalds for making him fat. There's no personal responsibility here. Same for reading labels so people know something is inside their food.
It is up to the parents to know if any item or toy can be harmful to their child. But too many jerk their responsibility and then the government goes crazy trying to deal with such things. From what I can find, 3 children have died from choking on a kinder egg toy world wide. 57 children have died choking on lego. Why is Lego not banned? Anything can be dangerous to children when they are not supervised. This is why I say picking one item out of thousands of potential threats and treating it like a crime just shows how stupid the U.S. can be.
America bans kinder eggs but guns are easily bought-hilarious
IF you ever get a chance to see an old bread slicing machine in action then do it. Its actually pretty neat.
landfair123 Just go to a Panera Bread restaurant. They sell loaves and will slice them for you.
I think you missed my point.
That does sound interesting. I had the chance to see an old kneeding machine from a ship. The woman had it I her kitchen and used it on a regular basis. It was large, but she had an old farmhouse kitchen.
Old technology is great and built to last. There are still many factories around the world that have machines that are 100 years old that are still working. Even when they are surrounded by more advanced machines. Sometimes you just can't replace what works the best.
Ah yes, those were the dark days when courageous Americans made the ultimate sacrifice and sliced bread by hand to defeat the Axis powers.
ikr, people taking too much things for granted nowadays, seems like they started off early
It was due to FDR's obsession with central planing.
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"When you shop for sliced bread..._you're shopping with Hitler!_ "
We would have probably surrendered if the ban remained in place. Imagine if we had to fight say... Iran AND have to eat bread with the crust, like savages. No thank you sir.
It could have been worse, if the ban continued there could be a demand for home slicing machine or gadget that in turn created a shortage in steel
It's called a knife. With a proper bread knife it's easy. I often buy unsliced bread as I have the impression it stays fresh longer. But then I cut about 6 slices a day as I don't have a whole family to feed.
It's not just your impression. Unsliced bread stays fresh longer, because it has less surface which is on top the baked crust where mold can't grow as fast because of the burning it's not as nutrietient as the interior.
To be fair, this isn't really at all of value to most people anymore, as generic sliced bread you buy more or less doesn't go stale.
seige-- True enough. I can still remember mould growing on even sliced bread towards the end of the week...
These days, it just kind of mummifies, and/or turns into a sandstone brick!
Bonnie Bosowski-Keys I'm young enough that isn't really the case, but I have baked my own bread on occasion.
Just wondering.....what was the best thing _before_ sliced bread?
best thing since... loaves of bread?
Got to give it to the first human that tried eggs. They're so useful in cooking as they appear in multiple recipes and delicious by themselves
I bet they guy in charge just didn't like sliced bread...
He was the best thing before it was invented.
SAM BRICKELL lmao
SAM BRICKELL damn.
Just like Trump doesn't like pre shredded cheese. He said he wanted to Make America Grate Again.
To my knowledge it was introduced here as late as 90's but I don't know if it existed at some point pre 80's since I was born 1982.
I don't like pre-sliced bread. The slice is too thin and if you stack two it's too thick :D
At some point I wondered if people don't know how to use knives anymore (actually the launching commercial here had to kids in a museum studying a exhibit knife and wondering what that was), but on the other hand I completely understand the pro- standpoint when you have to prepare food for more than one person
You've only touched the tip of the iceberg here. Wickard was named as the government official of record in the famous (or infamous) Supreme Court decision in Wickard vs Filburn (1942). Roscoe Filburn was an Ohio farmer who planted more wheat than was allowed under the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1938. He was fined $117 for this, but fought the ruling, arguing that since the wheat was not sold, it did not fall under federal purview as commercial trade subject to government regulation. In a move that was to have major ramifications on interstate and intrastate trade, both commercial and noncommercial, the SCOTUS upheld the fine, claiming all actions have some impact on commerce, and thus are subject to a degree of federal control. This far reaching decision turned the Commerce Clause on its head and gave extremely broad power to all departments of the federal government for at least the next 50 years, until it was somewhat ameliorated by US vs. Lopez (1995).
Roosevelt was a tyrant and we are still suffering the effects of his regime to this very day.
Our Government tends to ruin every good thing for no good reason everyday.
What a pain to go from pre sliced bread back to unsliced without a choice. Could have started a revolt.
A lot of countries did a lot of very odd things over the course of WWII.
one of the saddest parts of rationing was in WW2 the British government published a pamphlet suggesting methods of caring for pets in wartime and it had details about first aid , suitable emergency foods for pets and other useful advice, unfortunately it also suggested euthanizing animals that couldn't be cared for due to fears that packs of starving dogs could become a problem. And people interpreted this suggestion as an instruction and in the course of one week 750000 pets were put to sleep as well as all of the venomous animals in London Zoo.
www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-unusual-wartime-conservation-measures
0:04 I have never seen someone that excited about pre-sliced bread.
That face was *the best thing since sliced bread!*
Here in Norway, we get out bread unsliced but there's a machine that slices it for you if you want to, for no extra charge. The machine is usually right next to where the bread is sold. That way, you can choose to buy it sliced or slice it yourself at home.
Pre-sliced bread? Yeah, I tried it twice: the first and the last time (which happened to coincide). It just doesn't taste like bread, more like cardboard. So, after some years I started baking my own bread, even. It's not that troublesome, mixing, kneading and making the loaves takes less than an ½ hour, then wait times for leavening (is that the right word?) and baking in the oven. I usually play some game or watch some streamed TV show meanwhile if there's no other homework to do. And hey presto! Warm, delicious fresh bread! Yummy!
I used to make home made bread for a few years but eventually stopped.
Problem was that it went stale after about 2 days. I tried to use preservatives but most had a very salty taste and the bread manufacturers don't really detail what preservatives they use.
You can also buy bread much cheaper these days as well which made home baking uneconomical.
You hit one of the critical nails on the head: baking bread in the home is mostly a lifestyle luxury thing. Pre-made bread tends to be cheaper and longer lasting, so if one just wants bread to do things with than it is a good choice. If one enjoys the process of making bread or gets something else out of it, home made makes sense.
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Quite interesting. I've heard of quite a few food items banned/rationed in the USA during WWII, but this was not one of them. Congrats for telling me some food fact I didn't know about that period.
Maybe he liked thick toast.
Sliced bread kills. Good thing they finally banned military style bread machines and loaves containing more than 10 slices of bread. You also need a permit if you wish to conceal sliced bread in the cupboard.
Assuming that the bread slicing and packaging machines were not yet fully automated (i.e. they needed someone to run them) you could argue that banning sliced bread would free up a few additional persons for either military or more important wartime industrial service.
But as mentioned further below banning pre sliced bread would actually be counterproductive. Since most people would not be able to slice bread as thin as the pre sliced on a regular basis, much more bread would be used. Since the bread itself was rationed, this would either entail raising the ration limit (which kind of defeats the purpose of the rationing) or dealing with a lot of discontent from people who were regularly running out of bread early. Considering that "Wheat less Wednesdays" were already a thing again (and there was a real chance of that having to be increased), neither of them would have been acceptable
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I read somewhere that the goal behind the entire WWII rationing system was to make civilians feel like they were contributing to the War Effort in some way, even though there were no real shortages of commodities at the time. Somehow, thinking they were Sacrificing for the Cause was believed to be good for morale on the Home Front.
Tell me about the butter situation. This is UA-cam gold!
you should do what we did in the UK due to rationing such as the wartime loaf, and the ban on fresh bread... that is it had to be kept for a day before sale to cut down on the impulse of buying a newly baked loaf.a good clue is the 50/50 loafs being produced now..... that would be a good one for you bud.
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Do we even have to remind you, during this bread ban, guns of all sizes were 100% legal?
Bloodbath and Beyond I don't get the equivalence?
Murica.
So was the Second Amendment.
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I would think Banning pre sliced bread would actually make people buy more bread because you won't be able to slice it as thin as it comes pre-sliced so you'll end up slicing it thicker there by using more bread in each slice needing more loaves to make the same number of slices
Similarly, in Canada in the 50s, yellow margarine was illegal. It came white with a pouch of orange dye you had to mix yourself.
I did find this isteresting. Thank you for that. :)
Yet another example of why you never want to put government in control of the economy.
Because private banks didn't collapse the economy with irresponsibly loaning and shady dealing of toxic assets, o wait THEY DID!
tmnsoon
that 'guarantee' is all that saved us.
Because government fools like Barney Frank didn't force banks to allow people without jobs, income or assets to get mortgages everyone knew they couldn't afford.
As an actual person with Economics training. The BIGGEST problem with the housing crisis was the government literally forcing banks to give loans to unqualified people because to not was "racist" and would have cost democrats, like barney frank, the votes of the ignorant and dependent on tax payer handouts paid for with Republican taxes.
Where is your Economics training from? See when I was getting my education in Finance and also Economics, some how I didn't see you. Where were you? Were you sitting in the back during every class?
Are you an economist? Because if you are, I think you've had a stroke. And if you aren't....... Stop talking about things you don't understand.
Sir Aroun SAM BRICKELL Yep. Barney Frank, the Community Reinvestment Act, FNMA, and FHLMC were the primary drivers of the housing bubble and subsequent collapse. Oh, by the way, the officers and board members of FNMA and FHLMC were all well-connected Democrats who were paid tens of millions for doing nothing and still kept their money after we taxpayers bailed out their failed "government sponsored" corporations.
Centrally planned economy is better though.
The machine that slices bread was actually invented about 100 years ago by a baker in Chillicothe, Missouri. (I only know this because I live close to the town.) Every year the town hosts a "Sliced Bread Baking Festival." Chillicothe is also know as the "Home of Sliced Bread." ;-)
do a video on the dark days of the Hello Kitty ban in China in the late 80s to early 90s.She's from Japan so like all Japanese imports she was banned.So a Hello Kitty black market showed up,truth is stranger than fiction.
One of my relatives who served in WWII said that while meat was rationed there was such a glut of meat that ships were dumping it overboard.
When sliced bread was introduced, nobody wanted it and it flopped. It took decades for it to take off.
Not sure about the bread slicing blades used during WWII, but in modern slicers the blades are replaced twice a day. These sets (19 for a medium slice loaf) all 400mm long, stainless steel, razor sharp and thin are thrown away when they start to damage the loaf. Wholemeal loaves are worse, there's a large chance the the slices are uneven, where the wholemeal (whole grain USA) are deflecting the blades! which blunts them faster
That would be a lot of steel that could be used for the war effort. Better to let households sharpen their own thicker bread knives
Since America once banned pre-sliced bread, maybe we should ban pre-shredded cheese. Make America grate again!
"Why did you ban sliced bread?" "Because I can!"
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Plot twist: It was banned because King Charles II didn't like it. It was a subclause to the banning of coffee houses in england.
Fun fact: sliced bread is the best thing since Betty White. She was born before sliced bread was first produced.
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In the UK, the baker charged a Penny more to put the loaf through the machine.
My gran said it was worth it, but still grumbled.
So she went down the street to where a new rival did it for free!
She did like FREE!
Makes more sense than outlawing marijuana
LOL.........Typical Bureaucracy !!!! SMH
Preslicing bread was the single worst thing to happen to bread. I blame if for sandwich bread being garbage in the US.
This video was the best video since.... umm... idk... something.
Don't forget about blades needing replaced constantly. Thats alot of metal. I work at a pork plant and you'd be flabbergasted how many blades we go through.
Claude R. Wickard banned pre-sliced bread! Peridot would say, "What a cloddy idea from a CLOD!"
Not only did it make for terrible inconvenience,
but it probably at least slightly increased the amount of bread consumed
because since it's more difficult to slice thin by hand than by machine,
hand-cut slices would tend to be thicker.
Even if that wasn't the case, it was still a STUPID idea.
That family ate a tremendous amount of bread! Two slices of bread at breakfast and four for lunch! I wonder what else they ate. Was that in huge quantities as well? The mother might have done well to attend a class in nutrition for busy families and get some tips on how to better serve their dietary needs rather than filling up on bread, especially white bread. (There were, in fact, classes like that in that era--how to feed and clothe your family with less wastage, for less money. It was becoming quite scientific, with "home economics" teachers and new discoveries of things like vitamins and knowledge of exactly how improper canning techniques will kill you.) I don't want to pick on the poor woman, who was obviously run off her feet, too tired to be creative, and may have worked at a defense plant after getting hubby and kids their meals, but wouldn't even cold leftovers for lunch have made a change from a solid diet of sandwiches? :) She doesn't sound as if cooking is her strong suit. :)
Damn! That family likes bread!
Do one on the time New Jersey banned runny eggs (over easy, sunny side up...).
2:33 "What's so great about sliced bread? You got a knife, you got a loaf of bread....SLICE THE FUCKING THING!!!... And get on with your life" - George Carlin
I don't know if it's the white balance or what but when you shave your beard your nose disappears and you look like Lord Voldemort.
No, he doesn't. I mean, he has a nose and eyebrows
Why so defensive? It's merely an observation. I know that he has said facial features, it's the fact that on a 40" TV from five feet away which is how my family and I watch his UA-cam videos. The brightness causes his nose and eyebrows to become faint to the point of almost not being there.
MontyKensicle Just making a joke about Voldemorts nose...
Elchi King My apologies, I didn't know it was meant to be humorous.
lmao!!! I didn't realize till now. He does kinda look like Voldemort with a nose
how many chanels does this guy narate for? ither way he has a good voice for it
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I agree with the wax paper reason being stupid. There is no connection between wax paper and commercial loaves of bread.
Oh Gawd I have to slice my own bread. Sorry kids, we can't serve you breakfast.
This regulation is a bit more sane - though not much - if we remember that the US was not only fighting a major war and wanting to make sure that both troops and all citizens did not go hungry, but other things were going on, as well. England was near starvation and close to being invaded. The US was fearing invasion itself. In case of invasion, some food stockpiles would be lost, and it might be many years before farm production resumed and was also under US control. So very large stockpiles of wheat - more than 2 years worth - was an appropriate goal.
The more bread you have, the less shit you have to eat.
you are so happy!
man, America loves sandwiches.
Thats why they have Hamburgers
During WW1 we banned the use of the word "hamburger" and replaced it with FREEDOM SANDWICH!! We couldn't bring ourselves to ban the food outright, so we just gave it a nice dose of Patriotism and called it a day. American appropriation at its most delicious.......Not sure why I told you that, just thought I'd share.
Whitman before ww1, German was almost like how french is in Canada, with huge amounts of people mostly in Pennsylvania and the Midwest speaking it, until WW1 and speaking german was considered unpatriotic.
"it's the most illegal thing since sliced bread!"
You know the irony, it's harder to slice bread thin than thick, so if you're in a rush, you're likely to slice it thicker so it's easier/done faster. Therefore, removing sliced bread would have actually resulted in an increase in wheat consumption, because people weren't going to eat 2/3rds of a piece of toast because the bread's thicker were they!
I honestly didn’t realize that sliced bread was an “innovation”. I thought bread always came presliced (I’m in my mid-20’s and just never thought about it). So you can probably understand how confused I was over “the best thing since sliced bread.” What’s so special about bread?
Great video as always, Simon, but just one correction (and it's minor, really minor--so minor I feel like a "fact nazi" pointing it out); "steel" is not a metal, its an alloy composed of iron (a metal) and a variation of carbon. Therefore not a pure element, like iron, titanium, copper, silver, gold, or nickel (common metals) and thus technically not a metal.
actually, the definition of metal is situation. what i more according to wikipedia only astrophysics clearly define metal as specific element. chemistry defines them based on the nature of the bondes in which case steel does qualify as a metal.
wow! today I found out two things - the sliced bread ban bonanza and and the steel is not a metal thingie :) And an explanation to that, proving that all sciences are bogus mumbo jumbo just making people dumber, because none of the sciences connect to each other, even in such little things like the therms they use. Metal in chemistry doesn't equal metal in physics etc.!
Daniel noland Steel isn't a 'metal' in an elemental sense but it is 'metal' in popular vernacular. Just about every 'metal' you interact with is an alloy, so unless you mean to change the accepted vernacular, it doesn't matter much to point that out.
I know the real reason sliced bread was illegal.
Greedy politicians, 'nough said.
Oh, come on. We both know that any God-fearing, church-going American slices their bread by shooting it with their AR-15 assault rifle...
Aaron Chiafos I just nuke my loafs of bread
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Randy Kuhns yep because any old person owning a gun with not much oversight works out so well for you guys lol
assault rifle? FUCKING SERIOUSLY!?
LEAVE ME ALONE! got that? Triggered
It's just sliced bread, not pre-sliced bread.
SpudHead No, pre-sliced bread is correct because sliced bread wasn't banned. If you sliced your own bread at home it was legal, it was only if the bread manufacturers pre-sliced the bread.
No pre-sliced is grammatically wrong. Bread either comes supplied sliced or not. It's just called "Sliced Bread". If you think about it, pre-sliced means it's been sliced before it's been sliced, which makes no sense. Pre is only correct when placed before a noun as in pre-flight check, not a verb.
SpudHead fuck off
gregistopal And if I don't?
Here's a question: what was the best thing BEFORE sliced bread?
If that woman was so worried about how many slices of bread she had to prepare while everyone was in a hurry..... why didn't she think of slicing it ahead of time?
Wow! Simon now has a beard. He looks much different.
They said, "We have to pass the ban on sliced bread in order to know what's in it."
Give any bureaucrat some power and they will abuse it.
If your smart enough to figure out how many slices you will need on any given day you should be smart enough to cut them ahead of time when your not in such a rush.
Why would anybody buy pre-sliced bread? It spoils so fast! It's like buying pre-opened cans or pre-cracked eggs :D.
danyk666 : because some people/families eat it faster than that can happen? Did you not hear the testemonial in the video?
We ain't planning on keeping it forever. It is made to be eaten not put on a shelf to be admired for its beauty, leaving us wondering if different patterns in the bread is a deeper message from the baker.
Not everyone has enough room to own a bread slicer and slicing it by had is a lot less precise.
Good point.
"That time some idiot did something stupid" so just another typical day then
huh... I've always wondered where that saying came from
out of everything that has ever been done, if it is logical and makes sense, you can be sure it wasn't the government who did it.
I RMEMBER THE TIME AND LOTS OF FUNNY SLICES OF BREAD !!! NO TOASTER BUT HARD TO BUTTER THIS > MY FATHER WAS NOT A HAPPY CAMPER>
john kelly ha ha no one gets what u mean but I know you're old
I'm old too. Can I drool on your toast?
oh, but some of us do; his daddy was probably just a little bit older than mine. Maybe not.
"All is fair in love and war".
This entire channel is the best thing since sliced bread.
I'm unoriginal. ;-;
It sounds like they went resource conservation crazy during a time of war and made some knee jerk decisions.
The 1940s. When four kids was normal.
Oh my god, 22 slices of bread. Think of the dozens and dozens of seconds you are wasting each time
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Do they brand them with hot iron?
I bet the reason was more central planning idiocy that continued to prevent the recovery from the Great Depression. Then again it was working so well in Stalin's Russia at the time.
My great greatfather got caught with sliced bread and was executed.
Why do I have a feeling that guy had stocks in unsliced bread?
Do you have a video on how the US government would poison alcohol during the days of prohibition?
In Soviet Russia they simply ban bread. :'D
That would have been a good idea. If it's banned, there'll be a black market for it. Black market is profitable. If there's profit to be made, the production chain is encouraged to be productive. Productive production chain feeds the population and solves the Soviet Union's food crisis. And the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party can have anyone who's in the way arrested for illegal bread trade. Everyone's happy (except for those dissidents, of course, but who cares about them?).
Obviously it was the bread knife lobby at fault. They buttered him up then promised him dough.
When the government is bored and have nothing better to do. When the statesmen do not see a world war is entertaining enough. When this happens, a ban on sliced bread is inevitable.
go back further to when white bread was illegal