Why are School Buses Yellow and Why Dont They Have Seatbelts
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An estimated twenty-six million students in the United States alone are transported to school every school day via bus-over half the student population in the country. While school buses in countries outside of North America usually look like any other buses, North American school buses are distinctive for their yellow colour.
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Well why would they need seatbelts. It's just a bus. If all the NYC city busses required you to use a seatbelt then my God think about that! And on top of that every single public service bus in my region is school bus chrome anyway, though it still feels like Americans are more overprotective with this kind of stuff. Like if you put all of these safety measures in then the kids will never know how to actually navigate around traffic as a pedestrian which just causes more incidents and more deaths!
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I actually rode in a school bus with seat belts once.
Simon looks so much better without the stubble and glasses. Would wife 10/10.
Well bus can wreck but they usually don’t have seat belts.
Years ago I heard a kid's answer to this: "The kids would beat each other to death with the buckles."
The logic at my high school was that it would be the front of the bus that crashes. These guys were in my physics class too!
Waterlooplein1 XD what??
I drive a schoolbus and it has belts. I can confirm this, some kids actually wave around with the buckles..
My father was an insurance agent and adjuster most of his life, and worked for the local school system for several years before he passed away last year. He gave the same reason for there being no belts on school buses. Compared to other buses SB's are built like tanks. He cited the figure of 27 million students transported by bus, but only 6 deaths nationwide as proof. Safer than flying. Belts would be worth it if it would have saved those six if not for the several dozen who probable be strangled to death. That is actually enough reason not to have them. From a purely liability stand point your school system is worse off with them. Anytime a child gets hurt on a bus the system is sued. If the belts are not being worn are worn improperly, you just made it much worse. If the government mandated that every school bus had belts they would have to rescend it withing months and have the belts ripped out. Belts are one of those things that sounds like a good idea, but would be detrimental in actual use.
Then why do we have mandatory seatbelt laws? Why does the corrupt government get to exempt itself from its stupid "laws"? Hypocrites!
Back in my day I had to walk through 3 feet of snow up hill both ways.
Logan Barnette Now after years of training your legs can kill a coyote in one swift kick.
I walked through six feet
Why do our grandparents describe their trip to school as more difficult than "Homer's Odyssey"?
Logan Barnette back in my day we didn't have legs, we sniffed our asses to school
My Mom, child of The Depression, talked about the deep mud on the roads between her rural home and the school three and a half miles away. Sometimes they would have to get off the bus and walk anyhow.
To be fair, our school bus did have seat belts. But we never wore them. And sometimes we'd even hit each other with the buckles if we got mad.
Damn, fucking brutal LMAO. Those shits hurt
Same here. We would beat the shit out of each other with the belt clips
Jeff Wang ...I would stretch it to the seat across the aisle to fashion a swing and proceed to swing until my stop. My bus driver didn't care. His name was Jay. Jay was cool.
I noticed that one of those school busses had its wheels turning when it drove
91 seconds ago
The school bus design is so good at safely absorbing impacts there was an instance a few years ago where we T-boned a pickup truck... and I slept through the whole thing.
That must have been awkward when you woke up.
"W-Wha? What happened to the bus?"
Ian, Milo Van Arsdel
hahaha 😂
i wish i could sleep like that
My bus got rear-ended by a pick up, literally the ONLY injury was the ONE kid wearing a seat belt. His head smashed into the front seat at a bad angle and gave him a minor concussion/broken nose
Ian, Milo Van Arsdel
*_MULTI-ROAD DRIFTING_*
So called shock obsorbant seats... The buss stopped once and I hit my forehead on what was a metal frame in the seat.
I have done that and also hit my head on the side window.
Man, you have got to start using a spell checker.
Milk Chugger that explained why you spelled bus buss
Yeah, when he started talking about the shock-absorbent seats I called bullshit. It's plastic fake leather you can buy at a fabric store over an eight of an inch of batting (if even that) covering a hard metal frame. My mouth got slammed into the frame part once and my mouth and lips got 5 cuts.
they're supposed to save you from breaking your skull not be comfortable when you bump into them. if i give you a motorcycle helmet and slap you over the head you're not gonna like it, not a single bit! ask me how i know!
"Most children had to rely on walking, uphill both ways, and through a snowstorm, to get to school." Hahahahhahaa
that is what i had to do back in the day, what is your point?
@@nvmapompilivs7635 same here
BAREFOOT!
I would rest my head on the seat ahead of me. Napping for 30 minutes in the morning was nice.
alaskanhybrid Then you wake up in the parking lot and you have your 5th period class.
alaskanhybrid That was me on the way home from school after i pulled an all nighter. Would have an hour nap. Furst two years of highschool
Psyduck same for me but for all of my high school
My dad used to tell me about how he would trek miles to school through the snow.. I'm from Australia...
Doesn't mean ur dad is
Classic 'Stralian shit talk. Love it. Your friendly rival from the republic
maby hes an immigrant to Australia
TacticalBBQSauce Up hill both ways. 😀
Depends where in Australia he was born or where he came from
When I went through Bus Driver training, one of the reasons they gave was that one district tried it. They had to stop because the children were beating each other with the buckle-end of the belts. I don't remember if there were deaths but there were severe injuries.
Although each loss is a terrible one, we can say that the busses are pretty safe, a rate of 6 deaths in the whole country a year is significantly low.
Probably not. That's such a low variable that you likely could not mitigate it any less. It is called diminishing returns and you might save 1 child every 10 years by adding seat belts. Thing is you likely won't be able to prove that in realistically.
But improperly worn belts nationwide would have probably killed 20 others. These are real considerations. When you have such a low casualty rate as you have now, any change that does not have a proven net benefit has the very real chance to double or triple death rates. The seats have no moving or loose parts. Leaves very little to go wrong. Put any loose device in there that requires adjustment or can be pulled out to provide any type slack that can be manipulated to put around someones neck, and out of 27 million students you WILL have deaths because of troubled students. Might as well issue each child a hammer, because they may need to bust a window to escape drowning or burning.
To be fair, if your kid was one of the 6 you would be flipping out too. That being said your kid is much more likely to dying a thousand other things such as not even surviving birth.
Your child is 100 times more likely to die in your own car driven by you, than in a school bus.
+Marque Lethenstrom it's like how people are afraid of being on airplanes but content and even complacent and unaware when driving themselves in their own cars. Even though the pilot is likely infinitely more responsible than many drivers and has much more experience and it's proven you're less likely to die in a plane crash than a car crash, people feel uneasy about it because they are not in control.
For some reason we tend to place a lot of trust in ourselves over more experienced people lol
My uncle had an old broken down school bus when I was a kid, and it was dark green. So while at first I was like "what they weren't all always that colour??" I remembered that one
Kate Speaks *color yeah I know blah blah blah different countries spell words differently blah blah blah
Assuming you are really old fart commenting a long time agoIn most State used school buses used for purpose other than transporting kids are require to be painted something other than school bus yellow. That has been the case for many years. That or your uncle and/or an interim owner hated yellow and liked green.
waswestkan as WhiteBoyWithAnIpod noticed, I'm not American. I'm Canadian, as demonstrated by spelling colour the way literally every other English speaking country does. Including England. The one who invented the damn language.
Anyway. It was kinda blueish, CC, yea. And I'm only 23. I said the thing was broken down, and said uncle is my mom's _older_ sister's husband. So yea, he's old, I'm not.
Kate Speaks no one said anything about age and i didn't attack you so you shouldn't be so defensive. I said myself that different countries spell words differently
WhiteBoyWithAnIpod "Assuming you are an old fart", uh that is kinda mentioning age. I was replying to all three of you in one comment.
Why did you feel the need to comment on/falsely "correct" how I spell colour then?
OTTO: Uh-oh, better fasten your seatbelts, little dudes.
LISA: We don’t have seatbelts.
OTTO: Uh, well then, just try to go limp.
Our school bus has seat belts. I have never seen a single person use one.
Goat Lord I remember at my school (which is kindergarten, primary, and secondary all in one), it was socially unaccepted among schoolmates to wear seatbelts once you graduate from kindergarten. I don't know why, it just is.
Deivyt Toa of Corndogs I use the seatbelt so that I stay in the seat while I sleep (It's a very bumpy ride and it helps keep me grounded to the seat)
Goat Lord its the same with the gaugaus in tenerife... they are manatory by law to wear but not many do
Goat Lord those are commonly for preschoolers
we had the driver do random checks every now and again, to make sure we were wearing them.
I drove a bus for years. Another driver told me about an accident they were in one morning. A truck ran a stop sign and the bus (didn't have a stop sign) ended up hitting him with the front right corner. He said the truck was totaled, the guy wasn't injured too badly but he was going to need a new truck. Meanwhile the kid in the front seat didn't even wake up. They're fuckin TANKS.
+AmaranteStryfe when I was 7 or 8, I begged my mom to let my sister and I go to the Boys & Girls Club, as we hadn't gone in a few months. Sister didn't want to go, mom forced her to go saying "it won't hurt you to go."
Alas, we were in an accident. This was an OLD 1970's bus, where the metal bar for the seat was OUTSIDE the seat (i.e. metal bar, with seat bolted to it). When we hit, I was leaning ewer, talking to someone, and my throat hit the bar.
My sister who had for some reason stood up, went flying, and her eyes slammed into the metal bar that opens the door.
The bus wasn't bad - just a broken light.
The other vehicle (an old Ford 4 door) spun around 3 TIMES (the bus was only going 40kmh) and the rear quarter panels were destroyed. The driver of the car was charged with going through a stop sign.
First words when we got home later that night were my sister to my mom: "It won't hurt you to go. .... F-ck YOU!" and she ran up stairs. Mom looked at step dad, shrugged and said "we'll let it slide ... we did tell her she wouldn't be hurt."
+AmaranteStryfe Oh thank God! When you said "Didn't even wake up", for a split second I thought it was another kind of not waking up! Hahaha!
Micah Philson Ah naw, morning. Kids fall asleep allll the time.
+Allan C-B Wow! Awful! Weren't the parents called and notified at the time of the crash?
Ive always wondered what would happen if two of them hit eachother
Some of my life's biggest questions/mysteries have been answered/solved! To be honest, the history behind the color yellow wasn't one of the questions I had - it's always been the seatbelts. Once again, a compelling and entertaining video.
"Schoolbusses aren't typically driven very fast": I lived in a small town with no high school, and my school bus literally had to take a two-lane highway (80km/h) or a county highway (90km+/h) to get to the school, and she mostly chose the county highway because she had to get us to the high school 30 minutes away and then back into our small town to do her route for the grade school kids, who only started an hour after us. So she'd get on the county highway and definitely push that "+" in 90+. (Technically, the speed limit is 80kms, but everyone from the area uses the road as a speedy shortcut because it's not high traffic and we all act like 90's the actual limit, so then we push our "actual" limit 10kms above as per what's typical everywhere. The thing is, cops don't bother with the road, even though they, like everyone else, know it's entirely populated by speeders. I digress.)
I know 90kms isn't that fast by American standards, but that's pretty fast for a vehicle full of kids with no seat belts.
u sure it's km not miles?
AsHalt No, clearly I've been confused all my life about whether or not every speed sign I've ever seen ever has said "KM/H" or "M/H". This is clearly a tragedy, as 80km/h and 80m/h are incredibly different things and I will get pulled over for speeding by going by miles instead of kms.
Of course it's kms. Of course I'm fucking sure. Friend American, literally everyone else in the world uses kms but you and the internet is international. It's kilometres.
It would surprise me if they're doing 90kmph, most buses around here have rate limiters installed that prevent them from going much above 70.
Also, we had a county bus go off a bridge some years ago and everybody on board except the driver that had been shot and the shooter got out alive. The county buses also lack safety belts because it's virtually impossible to stop a bus fast enough to need them.
Pretty much the only scenario under which a bus having seatbelts would be useful would be if the bus were to flip. But, it's really hard to get a bus to flip.
Also, buses have a rather massive crumplezone which makes it rather unlikely that a bus is going to sustain much damage in a crash, most of the energy that would normally hurt the occupants gets absorbed by the frame.
Chris L Yep, she was. No speed limiters here. :)
MegaKaitouKID1412 That's rather dumb. These buses aren't really designed to be going that fast, even if you ignore the lack of safety belts.
The most dangerous thing on a school bus are the bullies xD
No, the most dangerous thing on a school bus is the interior, and all the germs and viruses that dwell upon it. Rolling plague carts, the lot of 'em.
Well, those don't hassle you for your lunch money and bully you into suicide.
Alyssa Brown no the most dangerous thing on a school bus are commies
I got beat up on the bus once. And then I had to do anger management even though she started the fight.
"they aren't typically driven very fast" lol, yes they are.
Most of them are governed to 50 mph.
@@kdrapertrucker it felt faster when I was a kid, that bus driver was a handbrake short of drifting that shit😂
The first rule of bus safety is always wear your seatbelts.
School buses don't have seatbelts.
Then what protects you if we crash?
A metal bar at tooth level.
Ahh, famous words from someone who knows nothing about how crashes work, nor how buses are built.
Xenguy a bus crash just happened in Tennessee, tell the kids that died how buses work
+born2biscuit You might wanna do some research there friendo, you're making yourself sound like an idiot. That 'metal bar at tooth level' is there for a reason, and if it weren't specifically for how bus seats work, many more children would've likely lost their lives.
Well my not so friendo, sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupid, my initial comment was a stupid quote from the simpsons, so why would you take it so seriously?
Metal bar?! You obviously haven't been on a compliant American school bus since Hubert Humphrey was VP.
When I was a kid, a small car rammed into the side of our school bus, I thought we had ran over a cat. But upon further inspection, the small car was completely deformed and there was barely a scratch on the bus. Seeing no damage to the bus, the driver continued and we all got home safely.
Jasmine Ju Haha
Jasmine Ju except for anyone in that car
Jasmine Ju then your schoolbus driver should have lost her job and been arrested for " fleeing" from a car accedent they were in
Rainbow Dash that's exactly what I was thinking
+Rainbow Dash -- Did he say the driver IMMEDIATELY continued? No. A driver could exchange information as required by law, and THEN continue rather than waiting for a replacement bus.
This actually makes sense. If school buses are already one of the safest means of transportation for students, then added seatbelts would not really be cost effective. Thanks for explaining!
I *HATED* riding the school bus as a kid.
1. I had to be at the bus stop at 7:35 a.m.
2. It took over an hour to get to school.
3. It was very bumpy.
4. I was always teased by other kids.
5. The windows were very hard to open and shut.
ah hah hah, all that but at 6:45 AM for me. spent my bus trip sleeping though so I didn't really notice the time it took
formerevolutionist lucky you 7 is the time I have to get my ass up there
formerevolutionist Well I drive school bus so I have to be on the road at 6 am in the morning and I don't get back till like 9 am. If you think riding a bus is bad, then try driving one for long hours and then put up with bad kids and even worse parents.
hothamandfauri Do you ever drive on dirt and gravel roads?
formerevolutionist yes
Ya, school buses don't need seat belts until you are going though country roads and on a sharp turn, all the kids fall out of the seats.
Whenever you hear "think of the children", you know that there's more to it than meets the eye. ;)
As long as the eye doesn't see me putting my pants back on.
my school bus has seat belts but no one uses them
As part of US-DOT laws, even if outfitted with them(which most seem to be anymore) commercial buses and vans only require seatbelt wear by the driver and the front passenger seat(should the vehicle have one)
Even the newest bus which they bought for the district's DOE still was outfitted with seatbelts, along with literally every school bus I've ever ridden across NJ/NY. Regardless of what company made it or the size.
Maybe a state law?
Same, I'm from Florida.
George Nguyen same
George Nguyen they will kill you if you use them in a crash because of how badly setup it is
I rode the Shortbus to school.
Seeing how your profile is bleach that doesn't surprise me
Jake Hess got*
Hyper past tense, its got
Clorox Bleach is our overlord
ReZisT Lust You're a dumbass.
Government: keep your kids in car seats until they're 4'9"
Also Goverment: it's too much hassle to put them in School busses and they'll be fine.
Your car is not a bus.
Yes! I’m 4’10”
You also don't have to evacuate 77 five-year-olds in the event of a fire.
@@adde9506
Mini-vans don't catch fire?
No, I think car seat manufacturers have a strong lobby. And bus manufacturers don't want to. And government schools don't want to pay for it
@@Michiganman800 Sure minivans catch fire. They do not contain 77 children.
A bus driver is legally responsible for making sure that all students are in their seatbelt at all times. That's hard enough for the parent driving the minivan, but impossible for a school bus driver who can barely see or hear what is going on behind them. Really not fair to make someone criminally liable for the fact that children have free will.
And while the cost of immediately retrofitting an entire fleet of school buses might suck, a law just wouldn't be implemented that way. It also would not matter in the slightest to manufacturers; they charge for that crap. It really comes down to safety.
If something big enough to damage the bus hits it, a kid is actually better off being thrown out of the way, rather than definitively crushed. Then there's evacuations, which happen much more often. I'd like to see you empty a full minivan of clumsy, terrified kids, with locked seatbelts in 60 seconds. Remember a school bus is 77 kids single file through one door that is most likely 4 feet off the ground. Good times.
Our public school district actually considered switching to seatbelts. It was the drivers and parents that told them no. The penny pinchers were perfectly willing to pay for increased 'safety'.
"They have seat belts on my bus !" = They have seat belts all over the world.
"They don't have seat belts on my bus !" = No seat belts anywhere in the world.
What is up with you people ? :I
I know! Some people have such microscopic world views!
color:
Tradition and high visibility
lack of seat belts is mainly due to it being annoying to try to get 40 kids to buckle up.
There is also the possibility that a student would use the seat belt as a weapon.
Stantonv How the fuck do you use it as a weapon?
A rope with a hard metallic end. How could that not be used as a weapon?
F Huber Also they tend to play with things and lack common sense so yeah. You never know with kids.
Everyone who grew up with a sibling has used a seatbelt as a weapon at some point or another
In the UK there was a fleet of American BlueBird AARE school buses painted in the yellow colour but they were right hand drive. I used to get one every day until the gearbox in it broke and it got scrapped. It was run under the stagecoach company and was fleet number 29882.
Every schoolbus I ever rode on in school had a seatbelt; it's just that no one ever used them.
NICKREAPER316 never had em on buses I rode on
Was it a smaller bus? The short buses have them because they weigh less.
NICKREAPER316 I have seen seatbelts on some, but not many.
*"Only an imbecile would fail to use a seat belt if one were available." - johnmburt1960*
Are you not from the U.S.? Because at least 35% of Americans quite comfortably fall within the category of imbecile.
I understand his approval rating falls around 35%. ;)
The 10 second version: Yellow because you notice it more quickly. No seat belts because of cost and are already safe without them.
The Stoic MGTOW lol what? If the driver needs one why not the kids. I have heard may stories of kids getting thrown out windows
@@theweredragon9887 the driver needs one because there is no soft seat in front of him. And the video did not say that seatbelts might not save a child in some cases, but the seatbelts can do more harm than good.
10 seconds ago
@@theweredragon9887 the driver needs to stay in the seat during an accident, what if they had to swerve and got thrown out of the driver seat and then couldn't stop the bus? The kids are packed in like eggs in an egg carton. Seat belts quips be dangerous because kids are stupid and will get stuck in them if the bus catches fire or goes into water.
God bless u🤗
School buses in Fl also have a bright strobe on the top, usually 3/4 back, highly visible even in fog. Easier for aliens to find and abduct the little farts.
I hate those things. They aren't meant to be run all the time, JUST in fog, and a steady light of the same brightness would be just as visible. They are blinding at night and trigger seizures; which is bad for any other vehicle on the road, including other school busses and the students on them.
I heard that busses at one point had seatbelts, but not anymore because there were more injuries from kids using them as weapons then from bus accidents. This was from 1996 or 1997 in the Peninsula School District no. 401 in Gig Harbor, Wa.
Double Dare Fan than not then
I do my best with grammar, though it seems to take a backseat (resulting in occasional slip-ups) to punctuation, which I have taken more seriously these days thanks to the No Punctuation Fad.
this is a comment section.not a essay section.
so grammar and even punctuation doesn't matter to much.think of the comment section like a written version of a casual conversation.casual conversations don't have to follow proper english and so do comments.
I know, I know... soooo many things are too hard for you poor kids these days. Actually writing whole words and coherent sentences must be so taxing on your little brains.
You should use "an" in front of words that start with "e" or "a". An essay...an apple.
To people who understand English and how it's written, it DOES matter. For instance, your "sentence" (if you can call it that) taken as it's written means "one thing does not matter to many of one thing".
If I take the time to figure out what you possibly MEANT to say among those mis-matched words, I THINK you meant to say "grammar and punctuation DON'T matter TOO much". That changes the meaning of the words!. Meaning you do not think these two things make a difference to YOU very much and that you ASSUME, out of your naivete, that these two things should not matter to others. The way that you wrote it proves that it DOES matter. That's the reason languages were invented in the first place. So that everyone could know what everyone else MEANS to say. However, if you wish to be viewed as an uneducated imbecile along with so many others, more power to ya. You're doing a great job at it!.
I can't imagine what you'll be doing when McDonald's goes automated and takes away your "youwantfrieswiththat" job where you have to have a picture so you'll know what button says moo.
you understood what I meant so why be a prick about it.to and too really doesn't matter cause they make the same sound and people understand what you mean regardless of which one you choose cause of context clues.
imagine someone going up to a casual conversation and saying they should say an apple instead of a apple.it just doesn't flow naturally.seriously say some of the things grammar forces you to do out loud and tell me if it sounds right.if it doesn't then that's a failure on grammars part cause it's suppose to mimic natrual speech not the other way around.
you grammar nazis even like to correct idioms.which shows your lack of knowledge of the english language.since you can't reframe from correcting something meant to be illogical.because the stick is shoved so far up your hiney.
also in the real world under normal circumstances grammar really doesn't effect much.not your job or how wealthy you are.all if effects is how well you can write the occasional professional paper and that's it.even book writers don't follow the rules of grammar cause they know it just doesn't flow.
In reference to the average of 6 fatalities a year, most of those involve the student being killed either during loading or unloading and very often being run over by their own bus. Seatbelts are largely moot. Very rarely, there is an extraordinary crash like the one in Chattanooga this week that killed five. The way the bus smashed into the tree leaves some doubt to weather seatbelts would have helped or not.
8:20 - Among those 1000 casualties there must be quite a few kids who end up under the car of distracted parents who are watching UA-cam videos about US schoolbusses and why they don't have seat belts.
the seats are incredibly absorbent? No. Obviously he has never been in a bus that had to slam on the brakes.
James Fraser IKR those seats are hard plastic and stiff "leather"
Sheet metal with a metal frame with fake leather covering it. There often is no padding on the back of the seats and sometimes they don't even have the cover over the metal.
Buses are built like tanks. Seatbelts are pointless. I was in a bus that got hit by a pickup going almost 80 miles per hour. The truck was obliterated the entire front cabin was squished into the back bed. The bus got a small dent in the side of it. Worst injury was a mild case of whiplash.
If the shit flips over and goes off a cliff seatbelts won't do anything.
they will stop you from being flung out of the vehicle in a rollover
konnek Yeah but do you know how hard it is to knock over a bus?
I have seen accidents where a train has hit a bus and it looks like the body actually separated from the fram, but the body remained intact and not crushed. Much, much stronger than cars. A hay farmer friend every few years buys an old bus or two and cuts away the body behind the driver seat to make the rear of the bus a super long flatbed to haul rolls of hay. If you tried that with a car or regular bus you would have to brace what was left of the roof to keep it from collapsing. His school buses require no bracing. It gives him a nice open back driver compartment with a wide open rear deck on a super strong frame.
They don't roll over often, this is a non issue statistically.
Just read this, I'm just speechless
If a bus catches fire those kids need to get out immediatly(no seatbelts),as for the color,hell you can see it from long distances. Great in traffic.
Exactly
Alright, so how do you explain city buses not having/requiring seatbelts? There's no soft, absorbent seat backs to fall towards on a CTA bus in Chicago and no seatbelts to catch you either. The seats have this very thin cloth material with no padding for your butt and back while the rest of the seat is hard plastic and metal.
transit buses typically don't get up to speed. They make frequent stops, and are larger than most other vehicles on the road. Buses are designed to maximize passengers, and seatbelts would only work for those sitting. Plus, they could hinder escape.
Commercial buses can be cited for passenger overload and the company can lose its license to operate a fleet. There is NO reason why buses should be allowed to have standing passengers. There is NO reason why they should not be equipped with seat belts.
One MercilessMing There are plenty of reasons. Good ones? Maybe not, but still reasons.
Cost, practicality, statistical effectiveness, etc.
GlintTheStrong
Until someone you know and love is killed on a bus. When it's your loved one, you'll cry a different tune. By the way, six states now require seat belts on school buses. Perhaps the residents of those states know something you don't. www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0055.htm
I'm from Ontario, where seatbelts aren't required on school buses. I was taught in elementary that they made the buses less safe, for the very same reasons this video explains. I moved to New Jersey after elementary, where seatbelts are required on school buses. Good luck finding a single student there who wears the seatbelt, regardless of whether it's required. When worn, they become a risk to the health of the student because they are lap belts only, which in the event of an accident will cause injury as the head slams directly into the seat in front of the student, jerking it backward and damaging the neck. When not worn, they become flying objects with a metal tip. Either way, the presence of the seatbelt is detrimental.
My school district just got new buses with seatbelts, three for a seat. They're really uncomfortable because no teen can fit between them.
I have a scar on my forehead from where my older brother whacked me in the head with a seat belt. (The metal part, obviously).
@4:22 Tell that to the kids that are tossed to the roof of the bus when they hit a large bump or go off road!
Nysguy2003 if they hit a bump they wouldn't be going that fast and if you go off-road in a school bus your doing something wrong
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Hell yeah your doing something wrong! lol I've seen videos of kids flying up and smashing on the ceiling of the bus.
Lol that is true. I had a private bus which was just a long van. Anyways she was always be rushing to get students home because of the very long range compared to the normal buses. We would never wear seat beat and there was a railroad crossing.The bus being a van didn't have to stop at the railroad. We would always laugh as we caught air. Never had a problem.
I've gotten some air time as a kid riding in the back haha.
Because they weigh 40 Kilograms.
Miss Frizzle has seatbelts...
That bus has rocket engines too...
Safety? With the Frizz? No way!
jet224presents lol.
Her bus is secretly a rocket though...
Carlos Andrade That makes sense
Public transportation (buses, trains) also do not have seat belts. Heck when busy many of the people are standing.
My bus goes 65 in a 50 mph zone. Drivers a savage
Bus routes are regulated to slow zones you liar
Raptor 99 its not common tho
Lmr02 Gaming my bus driver is the exact opposite, she drives at 10 in a 30 zone and takes like 30 to leave school and get back with like 2 stops
Have you reported the driver to your school or bus company? If so and nothing changes go to the police, and newspaper.
As for school buses going in slower streets that isn't true. I've driven for years and am now a driver that covers multiple routes. Some routes actually go on highways to get to the school.
Buses are rigged to go no faster than 55 mph and are gps tracked by dispatch. Nice try.
Next time : Why "School Bus Yellow" is actually orange.
Mark Contini yellow traffic lights are also orange but referred to as yellow.
***** Good point. They've taken this too far :|
Amber?
J. Craig Anderson you're right. my bad.
It actually has varied a bit over the years. Since digital controls came along though it's gotten pretty consistent. The type of paint will also make it look different. Different types of enamel and lacquer paints come out just a bit off.
My school bus has seat belts, but we all comply with the rules. However it also has wifi, Air Conditioning, and USB charging ports, so it isn't that bad.
If it's one that has air conditioning it's probably a short bus, which are required to have them.
JakeSnake07 lol all do
Um where Tf do you live??!! We barely get AC
Rick kid
Our busses have heat and that’s it no belts either n some of the older ones don’t even have heat but some newer bluebirds have ac our bus was out of commission one day for repairs was super surprised when I saw the ac unit
In Dubai school buses have seat belts, tracking devices and CCTV cameras!
What are you talking about? It's just safety features, no need to go out and say something random for no reason
Thats not nice.
Yes, but these children are brought up being taught that if they misbehave some part of their body will be cut off or at least they will be beaten. The tend to do as they are told. The United States school system is completely different. Disipline is viewed as abuse, so the children most school systems act like animals. Giving them belts is giving them just another thing to damage, hurt themselves on, or hurt others with.
That's not what happens in the civilized middle east
Um, Dubai is still building itself on slave labor, you don't get to claim being civilized.
If a school bus is on fire, it completely burns up in fewer than 4 minutes. It already takes some time to evacuate the bus without seat belts.
seriesoftubes88 what about in a 55 mph accident. #Few survivors.
Could you source that fact? It’s pretty interesting
When is a bus going to be going 55 mph? Also, anything with less mass than a truck isnt going to do *that* much damage to a bus, and the majority of the damage done even then is going to be shearing of the bus itself and direct impact into the children inside which a seatbelt wouldn't have done anything to prevent in the first place.
Viy Snjór field trips where the buses have to take the highway. .
Okay but highways are actually safer than higher speed non-highway zones as everyone is traveling in a straight line with no crossing roads.
my school bus has seatbelts but their only used for hitting people in this head while sitting down
They aren't typically driven very fast??? Boi.
Key word here is typically.
In my town buses never go over 35...EVER.
Busses going out of town, however (for like a sport or field trip) will. But those are not "School buses" but are buses that the school uses for this. they are most always painted the school's colors, not school bus yellow and sometimes have seat belts and even AC.
One in my town drives down a highway at about 25. They stop at this apartment building place and stop at every single road connected to it. Essentially my drive to school is elongated having to sit behind this bus that could've easily driven into one of the streets where they should've set up a bus stop.
Out where I'm from, it's a running joke that the buses drive stupid fast and almost recklessly.
where I grew up, busses would do 50-60 down narrow double lane mountain roads... haha
Kraken Fodder
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
The most dangerous part of a school bus ride is getting on and off at the bus stop. Many more children are killed and injured by traffic at the bus stop than are on the bus. Rather than questionable seat belts, it would be better to equip busses with telescoping swinging barrier that extends out the side of the bus like the one that is on the front to keep kids from walking too close the front and keeping them from driver. The one that extends out the side could have another stop sign on it to get drivers attention.
Joseph Nichols all Pennsylvanian school busses have them
Joseph Nichols Rather I think they should just have a sensor for all oncoming traffic and any time some idiot tries to drive by, a giant spike shoots out of the bus and totals the car while completely stopping it at the same time.
+Terra Estrahl Death for safetey
So stupid fucks are more likely to hurt innocent children than a bus crashing?
+Nanis Meelasla *safety
only you can make child death statistics sound charming.........
... seatbelts increasing risk of injury? I call bullshit.
steve1978ger seatbelts are not designed to protect you in a crash, they are designed to prevent you from being ejected from the vehicle. Yes, seat belts can cause more injuries.
He was in part talking about lap belts where they cause your upper body to jerk forwards. If they were 3-point belts then, unless it was adjusted correctly for the child, it could be going across the neck and a mild crash would cause serious injury.
It's adressed in the video: 6:17
Bunny Warren was he? He only showed the 3 point seat belt, and never addressed the difference. Because your head doesn't slam forward with a three point seatbelt.
Kate Given At 4:10 he shows a lap belt and at 6:45 he is talking about a lap belt. He does keep changing between the two though. At 5:08 he even shows a 4-point harness.
As someone who went from being a bus monitor as a child, and a first responder as an adult, I can say that seatbelts would be awwfullll if a bus did turn over anyways. Panicked young kids often can't unbuckle themselves and older-ish kids are more likely to get everyone emotional. Also the EMS would have to go into the bus to cut out any kids who didn't get out, putting the EMS in further danger and keeping some kids in danger for longer. Escape routes are taught from kindergarten. Seatbelts would just be bad.
Piper Vibes we have seat belts where I am but nobody uses them nor does anyone try to enforce them.
I totally agree with you (although I don't have the same experience) but I've heard some stories from people I know who were in a bus that flipped (lost it's grip on an icy road and started to roll. I don't remember the exact details) and everybody just got up and walked from the ground to the windows to the ceiling and on until it stopped. Thankfully it wasn't going very fast, but no one got hurt. If the kids had been strapped in, they would have been hit by each other's backpacks and lunch boxes and some of those can be pretty damn heavy.
my grandpa lived to be 94. He stopped going to school when he was around 11 or 12. It was common in the early 20th century for children to stop going to school without dealing with truancy officers. When I asked why neither the parents or the children got in trouble when they were "taken out" of school, mostly because of the need for farm labor, he replied, "most parents had the idea: I dare you to mess with my kid."
Um, Ok, Cool. But what in Hell does that have to do with school buses?
Seatbelts would impede being able to defend oneself when a fight occurs.
they'll still cram 3 teenagers into those tiny seats to save money.
You know, whenever somebody crashes into one of these large yellow vehicles they always tell the police the same thing. "I didn't see it!"
Why don't school busses have seat belts?
Because my school is too cheap.
School buses aren't owned by your school.
yes some schools buy their own buses. Some rent from companies.
No seatbelts is safer.
New Jersey has seatbelts
The school doesn't own the buses.
here in Australia (at least in Canberra) our school buses are just the discarded old buses from the public lines, and we don't even have to sit down. They just jam us in like tuna in a can hoping other peoples bodies will protect us in case of a crash
I love this...
+Arthur McDowell huh? Why??
+Marabeth F its just humorous the way she worded it. 😂😂
Arthur McDowell she?
Andrew Clarke he* whatever.
It was still funny.
Title should be.. ,"History of School Bus"
If they don't have seatbelts, what have I been super gluing together?
so every year except 8th grade
***** thats weird, one year without seatbelts surrounded by seatbelt years.
Depends entirely on what state you live in. Most (like, the vast majority) states don't require seat belts in school buses
really wtf ever school bus ive road on never had seatbelts
The small buses have seat belts.
In Finland school buses are normal buses that anyone can use, the local government makes a deal with the company to transport students to school/ in cities they give students a card that let´s them use the public transport. I think this is clever since a) Many rural places would not have any public transportation, but thanks to the buses transporting students adults can get by without owning a car. b) If you live in a place with a lot of public transportation you have more options than going with the one, slow school bus.
In some cases (special needs kids that can´t use public transport, not enough students for an actual bus...) there is a school Taxi that can only be used by select students.
Emma Blomqvist do you know how often i wouldve lost that card lol? And it sounds to me like a child predators paradise.
Zach Beckham exactly, if i had a kid i would not let them take public transportation alone
@@zachbeckham6520 My son (11yrs) looses stuff all the time, but the card stays in the same pocket of his backpack so he's actually never lost it
@@Jb-of8tl It's quite common here for children to walk to school or to the playground by themselves. Sure there are some bad people in this world, but incidents are very rare. We also keep an eye on other people's kids just in case.
Also, public transport is used by everyone so there are a lot of parents and responsible adults on the bus. You could argue that a bus without adults is more dangerous since there is no-one except from the driver watching out for bullying or dangerous behavior.
I live in New York City and it's the same. Students take public transportation and are given a card so they can ride for free.
My first niece is now a college sophomore. However when she came back from her first day in kindergarten 14+ years ago the first things she told her mother when she got off the school bus was not to worry about the lack of seat belts as you stick to the seats.
We live in an area where August and early September are very humid and with no air conditionings on the bus combined vinyl seats sweaty skin will stick.
School busses do have seat belts just no one uses them
James nope maybe the few you have ride in all my busses including the one I still ride have none
I've never been on a school bus that hasn't had seatbelts, not that I used them
I am luggin it as you have never been in one that doesn't not have them, I have never been in one that has them. It's just the school that decides wether or not they want to buy it, or it could be a state rule where you live
I am luggin it Seriously? I've never been on a school bus with seatbelts, even Charter buses late at night.
FunFan123Plays New York State requires seat belts in all school busses and that they be used for grade pre-k into there out of elementary school
7:51....he took a breath.....that's a first
As someone who was still taking the school bus relatively recently, they added seat belts in our district a few year back and they *still* made the eighteen-year-olds sit three to a seat.
My Boi be lookin like Voldemort
Thats a little rude
@@Meowbit shut the fuck up
In Sweden we use regular buses as school buses, and they do have seatbelts even though nobody uses them.
School busses in Arizona have had seatbelts since at least 1989, when my family moved from IL to AZ. From grade school to high in both Tucson and Phoenix school busses had seatbelts.
The audio of this video is so damn soft as compared to the other youtube videos I've watched even at 100% :/
New buses have seat belts. No one uses them however
Me in 2nd grade: F*CK THESE SEATBELTS
WHY DO I EVEN NEED THEM?!?!
They still use the 1999 International school bus, which is old and doesn't have seat belts. They even equipped those things with new technology, as in, Stop arm cameras, the yellow thing on the bumper that pops out, etc. I have been on those in 2016 last week man! Those things are scary cause when the bus turns I always think imma fall!
In the 1970's some of the older buses had fiberglass seats thus were particularly slick. So not only was I worried about the bus tipping on a corner, I worried I might end up in the aisle.
My bus driver fucking yells in our ears to put them on, but I don't get in trouble when I don't wear it because I'm considered an older kid.
Adam Smith no they haven't changed the buses since 1999 apart from adding cameras
Back in my day, we would have to push the bus up a hill, in the snow, BOTH WAYS!! AND!...AND, The bus wasn't even a bus! It was just a metal drum full of ROCKS! That was education back then.
I have a scar from a seatbelt on my forehead where my cousin split my head open with one while we were young.. thank god they don’t have them on buses any longer.
Damn
They never have had seat belts on the larger ones while smaller ones are required like cars. Which also usually are used for special needs.
G Unit BLACKBEARD 😱
@@StellaTheKitsuneWatches that's not entirely true
Well the Thomas (freightliner) c2 has belts in the first 5 rows and it’s a full length bus but the c2’s are expensive so we only have like 5 or 6
Walking uphill, both ways! How does that work? 🤔
grahamlive my grandmother would always use that saying and I'd ask her how that works too...lol...but then she'd tell me not to be obtuse...she could never take a joke
grahamlive walking through a valley
grahamlive There is a large hill in between the school and home.
Unless the school is on top of the hill, you'll have to walk up and down the hill both ways if it's between you and your school.
But your still going uphill both ways.
I did and exchange with a New Jersey school 5 years ago and we had the "oportunity" to ride in one of those school buses and it's, by far, the most unconfortable bus i've ever rode. Not only were they quite old (in fact all public transport buses i saw in New Jersey/New York where older than any one in my city, Barcelona) but also the benches were so small and unconfortable to sit on.
Well I'm English so the colour of the bus what whatever company gave the cheapest quote, and we ended up with buses that were only just roadworthy with interiors that would fall apart under heavy braking.
I heard that americans don't have to pay for their school busses? Like they get transport from their homes to school for free? Is this true? Someone told me only yesterday and honestly I find it so difficult to believe.
iona for public school only
iona yea, they aren't public transport buses, they are only for the schools so we don't need to pay. Where do you live that you don't have school buses.
Wait, in other countries you have to pay to ride the school bus??? I rode the bus to school every day in middle school, and l never had to pay, and l have never heard of kids having to pay for riding the school bus. If you rode on a regular old public city bus, then yes, you would have to pay, but if you ride on the busses that belong to the school district and are made specifically for transporting kids to and from school, then you don't have to pay. What country do you live in?
Actually it's paid for through taxes by everyone who lives in that school district.
iona it’s not true. Even in public school it’s one of the payments you have to pay for school(or taxes). You don’t pay when you get on though.
Personally it wasn't wrecks that caused injury on busses, it was potholes and various speed bumps (no matter how slow the bus went over them you still had kids flying, one reason elementary students weren't allowed in the back[too light]).
I think my school bus was designed by a dentist's.
Why?
Yeh why?
same here, XD I get it, there are these handles at the back of each seat, anyway if the bus stops rapitly you crash your teath to that handle XD. That said it has been many many years since my school days :D
+dax roger "I think my school bus was designed by a dentist's."
There's a word missing. You think it was designed by a dentist's WHAT? A dentist's father? A dentist's mechanic?
I think he meant a dentist's probation officer.
in newly implemented seatbelt buses you could get a simple electrical system going that tells you exactly what seatbelts arent fastened
Doesn't change that would decrease the attention paid to the road.
It wouldn't necessarily have to. It could work the same way alarms about kids opening the emergency latches do. When a seatbelt is unfastened while the bus is in motion a buzzer rings and the driver pulls over, turns on the hazards and finds out who messed with it. The system could be built to avoid sounding the buzzer just because a kid got off and left their buckle unfastened behind them. It would be even more expensive than regular seatbelts already are and wouldn't be very practical but it is possible.
***** I think you underestimate how soon drivers have to go to from one route to another. That would lessen the margin even more.
Also, kids could quite simply sit on top of fastened seatbelts.
+bagnome the drive could hit the brakes and see which kids fly foward
Not all buses have A/C. Ours don't have seatbelts. Ours don't have WI-FI or charging ports The windows are tinted so students won't be blinded by the sun and so people can't see the students for privacy purposes. Some have gates at the front so the students have to walk clear in front of the bus to avoid being run-over. Some have 2 stop-signs on the left which swing out. Some have cameras.
New York State has seat belts by law.
that is great to hear
Deathstalkr1 Looked it up and there are 6 states that require it: California, Florida, Louisiana, New Jersey, New York, and Texas.
Peter Gilbert I'm in California, we don't have seat belts, perhaps it's a district thing
Diego Cabral It is supposed to be a state law for those states. All do in my state. Maybe the list was wrong.
True. But commercial transportation vehicles do not require those belts to be worn except by the driver and front passenger seat(should the vehicle have one)
I can only speak to NY law though
They are actually a surprising amount of school busses with seat belts.
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I'm a driver for one of the largest school districts in the USA. A point about seat belts that was NOT addressed was the issue of a significant percentage of kids, (especially on what are euphemistically referred to by administrators as "Challenging Runs") who will use the belts as WEAPONS. You will see LOTS of head gashes and eye injuries. For an administrator to deny a kid transportation for any significant time requires a VERY violent, injurious, act from a kid. A driver can't deny transportation to a violent kid unless the driver wants it to be their last day of employment.
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+Arthur McDowell Thanks!
+Today I Found Out "uphill both ways in the snow" bill cosby
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GTX1080 Gamer No is doesn't? Homophobic much?
They have seat belts, all the school busses I've ever been in had them, and I currently take a school bus to school
Back 7~8 years ago (during my last couple years of high school) the newer busses had lap-belts. That was in one of the wealthiest counties in New Jersey, though. Also, we never wore them, sooo.
+Crapin Falson -- You probably live in California, Florida, Louisiana, New Jersey, New York, or Texas. Or you ride in buses that are less than 10,000 pounds.
Crapin Falcon Not all buses have Seatbelts. Some states require it but most don't and thus the majority do not have Seatbelts.
Lived and studied in California and Texas, and no, not seatbelts.
As a former American school bus driver (back in the early 1980s), we were told that the reasons for school buses not having seat belts are:
- Modern buses are already putting the kids inside a cocoon of sorts that limits their forward motion, and is padded.
- Buses are high off the ground, and in the majority of crashes with other vehicles, those vehicles will be regular cars, which are lower than the floor of the bus, and the bus is a heavy truck that will not decelerate are quickly as a car in a crash, so belts would not be very useful; if there is a collision with a larger truck, then the light construction of ANY bus (not just school buses) would not stand up to the collision and that not having seat belts would be the least likely cause of injury to the school kids.
- Belts themselves are not too expensive, but maintaining them on school buses is expensive. Kids will abuse them, toe them into knots, cut them, burn them, etc; a maintenance nightmare and a significant cost. And as others have commented here, kids will swing the belts so that the buckles hurt other kids, and this is more likely to case significant injuries than not having the belts in the majority of bus crashes.
- If belts are mandated by law, then somebody has to make sure that the law is not violated. Kids will not reliably wear the belts when in a school bus, so this is not an idle concern. Unless the bus has one or two adult chaperones, it then becomes part of the bus driver's job to police and enforce the wearing of belts by every last student on the bus. It is not safe for the driver to have this constant distraction, and once the bus is moving, they are powerless to go back and check if the belts are still being worn, or that the kids are not abusing the belts. It is just not manageable. Some school districts arrange for there to be chaperones on longer bus trips where there is more chance for kids to act up, but this is only marginally effective. And for daily short trips to and from school, it is very burdensome for the school district to always be able to put chaperones on all the buses; what if a chaperone is sick, then who does that job, and if no chaperone is available, then can the bus be legally allowed to travel with the kids? It just does not work out practically in most situations.
- The majority of school buses do most of their travelling within the town where the school is located and near where the kids live. Most never get off of residential, or low speed limit, streets. Statistically, school buses are not likely to suffer serious accidents of the types where seat belts would be effective.
- In emergencies, such as fires, or after an accident, or if the bus gets into a potentially hazardous location, it is necessary to quickly evacuate the kids. This may be done by the front side door or by the rear emergency door. Usually the only adult is the driver, so they will usually be outside helping the kids exit the bus. The bus aisles are only wide enough for one person, so having a driver or chaperone in the aisle can make it more difficult for the kids to quickly exit the bus. In panic situations, many kids fail to remove their belts, or in one way or another have issues with them, and with the driver not in a position to notice the problem or help, this all results in slower exit of the bus when seconds can count.
It is true that some jurisdictions do require their buses to have belts. That is probably a political decision, not a practical one. And based on all the reasoning and statistics, those buses are not really any safer.
In England, school buses are normal commercial buses and all have seat belts.
He literally says that at the video's start.
i had bus drivers that like to turn mega hard and even speed coming from someone who has literally been flung to the opposite seat of the bus they NEED some kind of seat belt
No, they don't. They need a competent driver.
darkespeon64 Yeah, he or she shouldn't even be driving a school bus then.
Psyduck after they hired him he was my driver for 3 years used to go on snapchat and post his speed forgot his record man would actually step on the brakes from time to time
darkespeon64 in English ???
Yeah seat belts would still be impractical because they're so expensive and don't decrease deaths in school bus crashes at all. Why would you put in something that will do no good?
I'll be honest here. I only had buses with seat belts for 4th and 5th grade, and we ALWAYS found ways to trick the bus driver so that he/ she thought we actually had our seat belts on. The pure rebellion factor made it fun.
Every bus I've ever been on in Ireland has had seatbelts.
Diamond Dude30 what about Dublin Bus?
Diamond Dude30 We have them in NYS.
Ian Mullins "same in America"
False. Only six states require seat belts in full-size buses, and in the 44 where they're not required few have them.
***** huh
really? I've only been on one bus that had a seatbelt. I live in California by the way.
26 MILLION KIDS BEING TREATED LIKE PRISONERS?!
Well, if you hadn't had that one child policy, it would have been alot more.
You know how I hate kid's being treated like this it's not giving them enough time to do their work average and above kid's 6/10 below average 4/10 you got to make it up for them they've been treated like trash we all do this need's to stop democrats = all hard working citizens treated like trash. hard working citizens are treated like trash and it needs to stop
I am American and we can still be friends
It's all so hard because of the Obamas it's unfair that kid's come back from school and are mad hungry because of the meals 4 years of hard school and terrible lunches will make your kid have a twisted mind and look like a North Korean this education gonna make your kid a North Korean
My great grandfather was the one of only two bus drivers in our county. He had to drive over 20 x the number of miles ones in our county today have to drive. Every where between macclenny and cuyler Fla.
Watching this from the future Simon looks really weird without a proper beard
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I am a bus driver in NY, some of our newer buses, big bus and mini bus have proper seatbelt. The thing is, it is not mandated by the school system. Most kids don't even need to be in booster seats though the district I drive for "Prekindergarten and kindergarten have to be in a booster seat." Just we are not alowed to force kids to wear them. Only ones that have no choice are wheel chair passengers.
Thebucketfulorats Technically according to law, wheel chair students aren't actually required to wear them if the parent contests. However the company I drive for told us not to make parents or students aware of this fact, so when hooking in a wheelchair I just buckle in the student and don't even let them know they have a choice.
A trainer had told me of a case a few years back in a neighbouring district in which a parent didn't want their wheel chair bound student to wear a seatbelt, so the company had to comply. About seven months later there was a situation in which a car ran into the bus and because the student didn't have a seatbelt he was thrown from his wheel chair and got seriously injured. The parent tried to sue the school, but since she specifically requested her child not wear a seatbelt, she ended up losing the case.
hothamandfauri NY law is that unless we have a doctors note, we have to put a seatbelt on them. Just what I have in the recently updated codes. Kinda sucks though when you see a kid that already looks super uncomfortable.
Thebucketfulorats NY law is different than Wisconsin law then. It seems to me like school bus laws should be universal in every state.
I'm a bus mechanic in New York. DOT requires seat belts in New York and in most states. And the price of the bus does include seat belts for said states