I think age of allowable cast depends on how close to current meta versus how crazy the match was. If the match is absolute insanity then even years later is fine because rule of cool.
That's fair. I would generally say 1 month after a patch and it starts becoming outdated... however there are some old classics like Idra vs Maru when Idra rage quit in 2010 or 2011 that I would still be willing to see as a "time-warp special" or something.
I think you already know this by now, but a lot of your subscribers don't even play the game and haven't for years (I last played SC2 in 2010). I just enjoy your relaxed commentary.
I play a ranked game of sc2 maybe one time every 6 months. I play a lot of custom campaignes (i am a big giant grand games fan) and some coop missions.
I agree with several of the commenters about "if the game is cool enough, it's always castable" but outside of that I'd say anything within the last couple weeks or within the current balance patch & map pool. Half of the viewers probably don't keep up with SC2 via any other method so it's not a big deal to have some older games, and even then, who's gonna complain about another Lowko video?
in that final fight, Serral moved the infestor to the bottom of the ramp, then feigned an attack with the corruptors to pull the ghosts into neural range *then* committed to the final attack. Absolute masterclass
Dude, the amount of precision, micro, macro, multitasking whole map, multitasking zerg tiny variety of units, updating countering army constantly like Serral, if there’s a Terrans Serral, Protoss’s Serral, Zerg wouldnt come out of the water.
Whenever i watch top level Zerg, especially Serral, its insane to me how quickly they switch from early game to late midgame or even lategame units, like we see ONLY zerglings, a few banes and queens for half the game and then at 14:50 BAM! Ultras in the third, vipers yoinking air units, corruptors attacking medevacs.
Cast more Serral games plz. I look forward to them. This guy is just too damm good. I would have been dead a hundred times if a Terran came at me like this
Zerg isn't OP- Serral is. Blizzard's next balance patch needs to include random packet loss for whatever device he plays from. That's the only way to fix the game balance.
@@quinn3745 Maru has made over 1mil as well, very close to the same amount as Rogue and he plays terran. It's the players not the race lol if you look at money made across all tournaments it's actually quite close for all three races.
19:37-19:44 It always amazes me how Serral manages to get the right Ghost to takeover with the Infestor. That one Ghost was perfectly trailing behind the rest of the Ghost squadron, like he was running late for work, because he wanted to sleep in a couple more minutes.
Rule of cool wins every time. Even 2v2 games where something crazy happens, like one guy quits at the start so their ally takes up the mantle and plays only their ally's units. (I won a ZP v TT this way back in WoL days) It's not zerg too strong, please nerf; it's Serral too strong, please nerf.
18:08 “The best word I can come up with to describe his playstyle is surgical.” You mean, surge-ical? Cuz he’s a constant surge of Zerg? Get it? I’ll see myself out.
I wonder why it feels like banes get less attention from Serral and other top zergs. Very often we can see clumps of them being wiped out by Siege Tank targetfire or a lucky mine. Always felt that pre-spreading them out a bit was useful, and these guys certainly have APM and accuracy to do this mid-combat. Maybe it's not worth it because they will clump up during a combat regardless?
@@KidoKoin I think that maybe the banes are too slow, and will just get blown up even with splits. Also splitting them makes them even slower since they aren't taking the most direct path.
I think it is more about content of the game than the age. I personally would love to see any game that has Serral, Reynor, Babymarine, Dark, MaxPax, or Harstem be casted, especially any time Serral or Reynor play something on the smaller scale that I am likely to miss due to my casual following of SC2. Plus, I love you casting Harstem because who doesn't love you two Dutch SC2 players casting and/or judging each other's games?
Actually, all this talk of old game casts made me think, Lowko, would you make a series where you specifically cast old games? If that was possible, I'm not sure if it is, but, I think that would make for an interesting series that gives more perspective on how the game has changed. Just like once in a couple of weeks maybe casting several years old sc2 matches.
would be really funny to go back and cast some games from back in the beginning to see the evolution of the game... perhaps some game with huck and idra come to mind :)
I think the age of allowable cast doesn’t really matter cause you do a really good job on explaining the previous meta and current meta. Love your cast. Keep up the good work!
Hey lowko just started giving you some $ to say thanks for all the content. Your videos are always super and after watching your channel for the past few years I wanted to give back. So thanks again for all the excellent content, don't change too much. I hope all good things come your way. 😉
There is somthing so satisfying about watching someone who is deeply competent play at the top of their game. I hope to see the Serrel around for many more years.
I have never played this game, but I enjoy these casts, and they can be as old as the game is. I find Serral's games amazing pieces of art sometimes. To me, it's hard to fathom how ranged units are not absolutely dominant. They have unlimited ammo... The Serral Swarm is fantastic... Also, Lowko, you are one of the better commentators to keep the attention on the game. Thanks for these uploads!
@@CastielVII really? It is lucky there was not a scan happening, it is lucky the missile turret did not finnish 5s sooner, it was lucky the ghost had enough energy, that the ghosts were not split by default, that they were in range of the EMP, that terran did not make a single raven to follow with ghosts........ you could say it was a missplay by the terran, but I want to believe a profesional can keep a group of 20 units under detection at all times
I swear there should be a late game upgrade for Zerg to increase population limit to 230 or 250. Make it cost 1000 minerals 1000 gas. Terran should have a similar ultimate upgrade that allows for command centers to move and attack like a massive gundam. Protoss should have an ultimate upgrade that allows for ground units and air units to be warped in ANYWHERE.
I think you should create a pool of random great games from the last 10+ years, and then choose one randomly and cast it blind without know what year it was from. Could be fun watching you guess when it was from and then comment on the strategy, etc.
I can and will happily watch games that are over a decade old if the caster is knowledgeable enough to tell me why it was such a giant of its time, and passionate enough to recapture that moment in time.
I guess if the game is within the latest patch it is fair grounds for casting Lowko! Also you are the fricking man and I get so excited in a nerdy way when I hear your intro!
Hey lowko I have a question as zerg when you start to make a structure your supply drops untill it's made, and if you cancelled it goes right back up right (I have not played on a wile) so if you have enough larva and bank you could have drones make say a structure, then make army use up larva then cancel the drones then be over supply right? Or am I wrong I have been thinking about this for years
Interesting to see cure play considering we didn't get to see much of him this current GSL. Always happy to see Serral play regardless. I think the shelf life of this game is about 18 months.
If it is more then 1.5-2 years old, but sometimes if there's an awesome older game that could be a fresh reminder of what SC2 was like back in the day 😅
im new to star craft and i like your content alot, the one thing i felt missing and had to prospect a lot was a "best star craft II games of all time" list or playlist. felt like a waste of good title for a youtube video. the last made was "top10 best star craft 2 games of all time" and it had 8 years old
I think there is a few cases foe old games. If the meta, patch and map pool are the same. It doesn't matter if it is 3 days or 3 months old. Like you said I couldn't have told you if this is from yesterday or a few months back. If it is a good game it deserves to be shown. Now if the game is on a different map pool and patch I'd say it can also be cast sometimes. Especially if it is really old. Start of lotv or hos or even wol (though I think there is issues with old replays.
since we live in a world with essential old maps tournaments or sometimes look back at slightly old metas whenever, i think in the end it doesnt matter as long as we get a fun match no matter what patch or matchup, watching pro level games is always refreshing
Serial just makes zerg look easy but I know from experience that it's probably the hardest 😅 but yeah zerg in the right hands is (OP)overwhelming power. Also I'm fine with any replay as long as it's in the current patch and map pool. I've enjoyed all of your starcraft content since about two years back. keep up the great casting and coaching as I adore it.
I like new games because I like watching the evolution of the meta, but as long as you're casting recent games, and letting us know when a game is older, I see no problem with that.
Serral is a complete monster. I love to see him play. It's not that Zerg is IMBA, Serral is IMBA xD!By the way, for me, up until 3 months, if there has been no major patch in between, if great.
why dont terran players use barracks more as floating walls to protect siege tanks? could prob squeeze 2 siege tanks inbetween 4 barracks to have like a siege tank fort? drop mules for remote repair etc
I think age of allowable cast depends on how close to current meta versus how crazy the match was. If the match is absolute insanity then even years later is fine because rule of cool.
time to cast mvp vs squirtle where all the bcs get archon toileted then
That's fair. I would generally say 1 month after a patch and it starts becoming outdated... however there are some old classics like Idra vs Maru when Idra rage quit in 2010 or 2011 that I would still be willing to see as a "time-warp special" or something.
Yeah indeed, and mention it in the title/description
And something to contemplate on: If the game isn`t patched anymore, does that mean games don`t really get outdated?
@@MrNoodlot The meta can change even without patches
I think you already know this by now, but a lot of your subscribers don't even play the game and haven't for years (I last played SC2 in 2010). I just enjoy your relaxed commentary.
cheers to this and plus, when lowko is casting games like i felt im the one playing game :))
yep
The last time I played an RTS it was Age of Empires 4, and not the remaster.
I play a ranked game of sc2 maybe one time every 6 months. I play a lot of custom campaignes (i am a big giant grand games fan) and some coop missions.
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I agree with several of the commenters about "if the game is cool enough, it's always castable" but outside of that I'd say anything within the last couple weeks or within the current balance patch & map pool. Half of the viewers probably don't keep up with SC2 via any other method so it's not a big deal to have some older games, and even then, who's gonna complain about another Lowko video?
lowko sucks!
Pretty much this. If Lowko thinks its good enough to cast, that's good enough for me.
in that final fight, Serral moved the infestor to the bottom of the ramp, then feigned an attack with the corruptors to pull the ghosts into neural range *then* committed to the final attack.
Absolute masterclass
Such a beautiful game of real time strategy chess. 👏🏻
Zerg isn't too strong, but watching Serral sure doesn't make it feel that way.
When zerg is played near perfect, my god it looks by far the best race, just spamming and over running your enemy
@@MaximumSpice race fantasy perfected
@@MaximumSpice tbh the problem is we rarely ever see other races played perfectly...and no, mass ghost against ultra does not count :D
@@stixinst5791 fair I don't play SC2 anymore but man zerg looks good like that lol
Dude, the amount of precision, micro, macro, multitasking whole map, multitasking zerg tiny variety of units, updating countering army constantly like Serral, if there’s a Terrans Serral, Protoss’s Serral, Zerg wouldnt come out of the water.
Whenever i watch top level Zerg, especially Serral, its insane to me how quickly they switch from early game to late midgame or even lategame units, like we see ONLY zerglings, a few banes and queens for half the game and then at 14:50 BAM! Ultras in the third, vipers yoinking air units, corruptors attacking medevacs.
Cast more Serral games plz. I look forward to them. This guy is just too damm good. I would have been dead a hundred times if a Terran came at me like this
Zerg isn't OP- Serral is. Blizzard's next balance patch needs to include random packet loss for whatever device he plays from. That's the only way to fix the game balance.
Serral plays on Nintendo DS
Isn´t it a problem that when serral doesnt win other zerg players does?
@@pegasisilver6249 IKR, two players have made over $1m and both are zergs, smh
@@quinn3745 Maru has made over 1mil as well, very close to the same amount as Rogue and he plays terran. It's the players not the race lol if you look at money made across all tournaments it's actually quite close for all three races.
@@DeviousNekomata Sir, I was being sarcastic because that guy didn't understand that
19:37-19:44 It always amazes me how Serral manages to get the right Ghost to takeover with the Infestor. That one Ghost was perfectly trailing behind the rest of the Ghost squadron, like he was running late for work, because he wanted to sleep in a couple more minutes.
4:30 Jesus Christ look at Serral's map vision. That's insane. Yeah, he's getting a heads up of anything super early. :D
I always hope for a Serral vs Cure match, thank you Lowko!
Rule of cool wins every time. Even 2v2 games where something crazy happens, like one guy quits at the start so their ally takes up the mantle and plays only their ally's units. (I won a ZP v TT this way back in WoL days)
It's not zerg too strong, please nerf; it's Serral too strong, please nerf.
I love watching Serral replays. Watching him vs. any other zerg player really does feel like a night and day difference.
I guess Serral really was the Heart of the Swarm.
18:08 “The best word I can come up with to describe his playstyle is surgical.”
You mean, surge-ical? Cuz he’s a constant surge of Zerg? Get it?
I’ll see myself out.
Zurgical
serrals ling game is on another level.
it feels like every single ling is a living creature when he plays
That's what 510 AVERAGE apm does to a person I guess. Last few times I had like, 50 ish.
I wonder why it feels like banes get less attention from Serral and other top zergs. Very often we can see clumps of them being wiped out by Siege Tank targetfire or a lucky mine. Always felt that pre-spreading them out a bit was useful, and these guys certainly have APM and accuracy to do this mid-combat. Maybe it's not worth it because they will clump up during a combat regardless?
@@KidoKoin I think that maybe the banes are too slow, and will just get blown up even with splits. Also splitting them makes them even slower since they aren't taking the most direct path.
Love ur commentary you’re the only one I watch but I watch every video lol
It’s not about “balance”. Serral just picked the race that fights in the nude, signaling to his opponent that he knows no fear.
So Serral should play in the nude to be on brand
yeah sometimes you like one unit and just pick the race that has it
I think it is more about content of the game than the age. I personally would love to see any game that has Serral, Reynor, Babymarine, Dark, MaxPax, or Harstem be casted, especially any time Serral or Reynor play something on the smaller scale that I am likely to miss due to my casual following of SC2. Plus, I love you casting Harstem because who doesn't love you two Dutch SC2 players casting and/or judging each other's games?
Thanks for casting this game! seeing a game on this old map is so nostalgic...
You could find the Valencia tournament packs. All of the semifinals to finals were insane.
finally another serral match. it's been ages
Actually, all this talk of old game casts made me think, Lowko, would you make a series where you specifically cast old games? If that was possible, I'm not sure if it is, but, I think that would make for an interesting series that gives more perspective on how the game has changed. Just like once in a couple of weeks maybe casting several years old sc2 matches.
would be really funny to go back and cast some games from back in the beginning to see the evolution of the game... perhaps some game with huck and idra come to mind :)
I see a Serral game and never wonder who is going to win lol
Serrals the kind of zerg that summons the swarm.
Zerg needs a buff. Only Serral can make it work. I mean, 2, 3 Terrans all-ins with a late third and STILL able to get to late game. Fucking hell.
Kerrigan’s got nothing on him.
Serral.
is.
THE SWARM.
The Crossdressed Zerg King hahaha
I think the age of allowable cast doesn’t really matter cause you do a really good job on explaining the previous meta and current meta. Love your cast. Keep up the good work!
Dude that thumbnail was a banger!
Hey lowko just started giving you some $ to say thanks for all the content. Your videos are always super and after watching your channel for the past few years I wanted to give back. So thanks again for all the excellent content, don't change too much. I hope all good things come your way. 😉
Gothic 1 in Poland still got huge fanbase, its 21 yrs old game. We got meetings, LARP festivals and casting players still for today :D
There is somthing so satisfying about watching someone who is deeply competent play at the top of their game. I hope to see the Serrel around for many more years.
Ghosts are so broken that the only way to really deal with ghosts is to use "drumroll" enemy ghosts.
I used the ghosts to destroy the ghosts..
What a game omg, had me on the edge of my seet. Serral plays so beautifully, its immensely satisfying to watch
Serral is super good, love seeing replays with this type of strategy!
I have never played this game, but I enjoy these casts, and they can be as old as the game is. I find Serral's games amazing pieces of art sometimes. To me, it's hard to fathom how ranged units are not absolutely dominant. They have unlimited ammo... The Serral Swarm is fantastic... Also, Lowko, you are one of the better commentators to keep the attention on the game. Thanks for these uploads!
I would absolutely appreciate Lowko casting some SC2 classic games from years ago!
How good is Serral? He's the only Zerg that doesn't make Ghosts look extremely broken.
And even than he needs a lucky neural to shut them down
@@stixinst5791 lucky for you, but not for serral, he made that situation happen.
@@CastielVII really? It is lucky there was not a scan happening, it is lucky the missile turret did not finnish 5s sooner, it was lucky the ghost had enough energy, that the ghosts were not split by default, that they were in range of the EMP, that terran did not make a single raven to follow with ghosts........ you could say it was a missplay by the terran, but I want to believe a profesional can keep a group of 20 units under detection at all times
@@stixinst5791 TRUE
@@stixinst5791 Starcraft has never come down to luck, it comes down to decisions. Whoever makes more good decisions faster wins.
A good game, is a good game. I'm happy to watch any game you choose to cast.
I swear there should be a late game upgrade for Zerg to increase population limit to 230 or 250. Make it cost 1000 minerals 1000 gas. Terran should have a similar ultimate upgrade that allows for command centers to move and attack like a massive gundam. Protoss should have an ultimate upgrade that allows for ground units and air units to be warped in ANYWHERE.
The 200 limit is more of a performance thing.
I think you should create a pool of random great games from the last 10+ years, and then choose one randomly and cast it blind without know what year it was from. Could be fun watching you guess when it was from and then comment on the strategy, etc.
When I saw that cheeky infestor I thought "Man if Serral neurals a ghost and EMPs the clump of ghosts it's gonna be... Yup, GG."
I can and will happily watch games that are over a decade old if the caster is knowledgeable enough to tell me why it was such a giant of its time, and passionate enough to recapture that moment in time.
The sound of Ghosts dying will always be music to my ears.
It’s good to see some old stuff. To remind us. How the game was played early.
That was on an other level. Beautiful
Serral keeps scII alive for me
I guess if the game is within the latest patch it is fair grounds for casting Lowko! Also you are the fricking man and I get so excited in a nerdy way when I hear your intro!
Lowko, as long as it's epic it's timeless
Love to watch Maru nuke his own army or nuke the opponent's entire army anytime, even years later! Love to see their reactions too 😂
18:11 best word i can come up with is zerg-ical
Your casting is good, so casting a game from any time period of the life of the game would be enjoyable.
WOW. Serral have four arms and two brains!
Hey lowko I have a question as zerg when you start to make a structure your supply drops untill it's made, and if you cancelled it goes right back up right (I have not played on a wile) so if you have enough larva and bank you could have drones make say a structure, then make army use up larva then cancel the drones then be over supply right? Or am I wrong I have been thinking about this for years
Yea you 100% can do this and is a fairly common trick people use esp for early game cheese
Serral has it down to a science. Love seeing a turtling terran get rofl stomped.
i would love to see a very old game from time to time with different units, balancing and strats
That infestor neural parasite to EMP Cure's own ghosts was awesome.
Interesting to see cure play considering we didn't get to see much of him this current GSL.
Always happy to see Serral play regardless.
I think the shelf life of this game is about 18 months.
brilliant game, coup de grace delivered with some style points
Watching serral play is always such a treat! lol
Dude, Pig sometimes casts Florencio games that have machine gun cyclones and infested terrans. A game is NEVER uncastable
If it’s a Serral replay it doesn’t matter how long ago it was from bad long as you mention when it was from.
If it is more then 1.5-2 years old, but sometimes if there's an awesome older game that could be a fresh reminder of what SC2 was like back in the day 😅
these games of sc2 make me want to play it again even though i’m a gold league hero
That last point is accurate. People only complain about balance when it’s Serral Reynor or Rouge
Oh cool, this is the first time I've actually had that "video from a subscription doesn't show up in subscription feed" issue.
im new to star craft and i like your content alot, the one thing i felt missing and had to prospect a lot was a "best star craft II games of all time" list or playlist. felt like a waste of good title for a youtube video. the last made was "top10 best star craft 2 games of all time" and it had 8 years old
As long as you mention the date and game version of the match, I'm happy with any time frame.
Lowko, you are slick wit it.
That was a total domination from Serral, nothing else
faclonpaladin casts games from 1999 and I still watch them.
Serral just solidified his position as a Goat
Zerg doesn't need any nervs, Serral does. :D
When I still played SC2, I also always chose the pink color.
I think there is a few cases foe old games.
If the meta, patch and map pool are the same. It doesn't matter if it is 3 days or 3 months old. Like you said I couldn't have told you if this is from yesterday or a few months back. If it is a good game it deserves to be shown.
Now if the game is on a different map pool and patch I'd say it can also be cast sometimes. Especially if it is really old. Start of lotv or hos or even wol (though I think there is issues with old replays.
thank you look for all your hard work!!!
Don’t apologize your vids a great
small detail but cure moved the ghosts who got emp'ed forward to tank the banes for the ones who still had energy LOL
since we live in a world with essential old maps tournaments or sometimes look back at slightly old metas whenever, i think in the end it doesnt matter as long as we get a fun match
no matter what patch or matchup, watching pro level games is always refreshing
You can make Retro section when you cast games from old patches to remind how much Meta/Game changed... It can be interesting, at least for me :)
Two siege tanks inside of a medivac sounds like the beginning of a bar joke
Serral was playing his usual game, Cure was still waking up.
Serial just makes zerg look easy but I know from experience that it's probably the hardest 😅 but yeah zerg in the right hands is (OP)overwhelming power. Also I'm fine with any replay as long as it's in the current patch and map pool. I've enjoyed all of your starcraft content since about two years back. keep up the great casting and coaching as I adore it.
I like new games because I like watching the evolution of the meta, but as long as you're casting recent games, and letting us know when a game is older, I see no problem with that.
epic games never get old.
do like a retro series, where you feature some great games of the past
That Nine-Brain ending!
Cast a protoss game with mothership using a black hole. Nostalgia!
That's why serral is the GOAT
I think a game can never be to old to become uncastable
SERRAL VS THE WORLD
Casting old games are Coolio with me, as long as it's not on an old patch. Knowing blizzard that means you have tons to chose from Papa Lowko 😄
this was a masterclass
That's an insane creep spread
2:20 However ever old Starcraft is + 1 day. Everything is castable as long as its a good game.
Serral is OP
Serral is a complete monster. I love to see him play. It's not that Zerg is IMBA, Serral is IMBA xD!By the way, for me, up until 3 months, if there has been no major patch in between, if great.
why dont terran players use barracks more as floating walls to protect siege tanks? could prob squeeze 2 siege tanks inbetween 4 barracks to have like a siege tank fort? drop mules for remote repair etc
I mean sometimes i go back and watch old championships. But mostly i like to watch so fresh gameplay to see if the players are on theyr a game atm:)