Sauron is the dictator extremist type, for whom the end justifies the means. In his mind he's the good guy. He is trying to fix and heal the world, even if that means destroying it first, and building it again from the ashes. Sauron is very honest to Galadriel. He trully doesn't see any difference between saving the world and dominating it. Because for him that is the only way the world can be fixed. He's not just an evil demon that's evil just for the sake of being evil.
Wait, you don't need to be a dictator extremist type to think the end justifies the means. Pretty much every society is based on making decisions that way.
Gandalf does say "Always follow your nose" in the Mines of Moria in LOTR. Gandalf: I have no memory of this place. (later) Ah, it's this way. Merry: He's remembered! Gandalf: No, but the air doesn't smell so foul down here. If in doubt, Meriadoc, always follow your nose.
The scary part is, that we definitely miss what actually this show were trying to hide from us in this episode. Not the revelation of Sauron and Gandalf. The hiden story, truly, was about question: is he, Sauron, really was trying to bind himself to the light, or it was just a game from the very beginning? That's the real thing about this episode, and if we look closely, we may find multiple clues to version, that whole season was orchestrated by Sauron, and the main instrument in that composition was Galadriel.
Agreed. I think he was. I think he'd been on his way to prostrate himself to Aule, his master, and when he met Galadriel he thought "aha, a task, to help me redeem myself!" and ended up in Numenor, clearly thinking "ah, maybe if I help the Numenoreans, I can redeem myself!" he repeatedly rejected the temptations of power, tried to be friendly and humble for all that it clearly chafed at his pride. Galadriel convinced him he could help people by ruling them as King, and get revenge on Adar for good measure. The temptation of his own strength was too much for him.
In the original lore the Seven and the Nine were made before, with the help of Sauron. But the Three were by the elven smiths only, Sauron never touched them that's why they were free of his influence. I guess they switched, and next season Sauron will be back as Annatar(Lord of Gifts) and helps Celebrimbor make the other rings. Celebrimbor and the smiths of Eregion trusted Annatar, only Galadriel and Elrond did not trust him.
Technically none of the elves trusted him, ie Elrond, Gil-Galad, Galadriel, and the other elven kingdoms, only Eregion run by Celebrimbor trusted him. Trusted him to their demise of course, but I am glad to see a friendly lore bringer here.
@@clownofthetimes6727 I honestly don't know if they have the rights to it. In the Tale of Years (LotR appendix) mentioned that Sauron tried to seduce the eldar and he was successfull with the smiths of Eregion. But the name itself is not there. I don't know how much and what they can use from the other side materials published over the years. But even if they don't say the name, the role can be there and the same. Of course this is all speculation at this point, I'm not saying I know anything :D
Let's be honest,in battle one-on-one,Galadriel would have no chances against Sauron.Yeah-yeah,i know,now you will tell me,that in "Hobbit",Galadriel have cast Sauron's spirit away from Dol-Guldur with help of her magic,yet pay your attention,that in that moment Sauron's spirit was still weakened without his One Ring,he still haven't restored his entire potential,and had no physical body,besides,to cast Sauron away with magic,Galadriel have spent such a huge amount of her energy,that it almost killed her.
Sauron is the most honest character in Season 1. He meant what he said. He does see no difference between saving or ruling because he doesn't see any other way to save it (in his arrogance? or his accurate understanding of the downsides of both Elves and Men?)
@20:30 The Istar are the "Istarion" or the five Wizards sent to Middle Earth in the Second Age by the Valar (The Valar were sub-Gods to the God who created Middle-Earth whose name is escaping me at the moment). The Istar were Saruman, Gandalf, Morinhetar, Aiwendil (aka Radagast The Brown who is friends with the animals and is in the LOTR movies and books), and a fifth. All of this is explained in Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" which is a history of Middle Earth before the Third Age. While I highly recommend reading the LOTR books, I'd really skip the Silmarillion as it is more like reading the Bible or a very dry history books. While I have read the main LOTR books at least 5-6 times, it took my four attempts across a span of 40 years to finally read the Silmarillion all the way through. It explains a lot of Middle Earth history but it is just a painful read.
It was really fun seeing these reactions! The first season wasn’t perfect but I liked it more than I didn’t. If you ever end up doing ones for the LoTR movies I’d love to watch those too.
In The Simarilian Sauron tries to manipulate the elves first and for the most part he succeeds he gets Celebrimbor to help him make the rings of power but there were three elves that didn't trust him Gil Galahad Elrond and Galadriel
I'm betting the Galadriel that's with the Elves at the end of the episode is Sauron in disguise and the real Galadriel has been left floating down the river and left for dead
@@chrism7395 Lol nah the reason why they had Galadriel be deceived by Sauron like that was because she's meant to be the point of view of the audience who only saw the movies and didn't know that he's basically a shapeshifter and they were supposed to find out that Halbrand was Sauron when she did and in some cases it worked I've seen some reactors generally surprised that he was Sauron including this one girl who was like no he's Sauron but I liked him which is exactly the point of his disguise you're supposed to like him at first
Everyone is way overreacting with the bad critics about this show just to farm some internet points and videos. yes yes the show could have been better, hopefully the next one will do better!
When the 3 elven rings were made the 7 and the 9 were already made and tint by Sauron’s evil, the 3 were pure because Sauron wasn’t around and that’s why these 3 rings were hidden from him. I don’t know how TROP is going to move forward with these rings, maybe they were made off camera or somehow after, we’ll see ! 😮
i think the other rings will be made after by Celebrimbor and Sauron. Either he will come back under a new disguise, Annatar, or he will just come back as Halbrand. After all, Galadriel told them not to treat with Halbrand anymore, but she did not tell them why, and Celebrimbor could just ignore her advice, thinking she is probably angry at him for petty reasons. The writers decided to make Galadriel not say why Halbrand is not turstworthy, it will have consequences
5:39 Lore wise it would make the most sense if he'd be on of the blue wizzards. There were 5 Istari in total and 2 of them were blue. I think Gandalf only came to Middle-Earth in the 3rd age and not before that (in the 2nd age).
all signs point to him being Gandalf. They just took creative liberties and included characters that weren't here during that timeline because nostalgia. I mean shit, they have Isildur and Elendil in this show and completely forget that Galadriel is married.
One thing you have to remember about this show is that, other than a few names, it really has nothing to do with The Lord of the Rings or anything Tolkien wrote. If you can get by that, than have fun with what is basically middle-earth 90210.
When Galadriel refused Sauron, ´And that is why i will never be at your side´ it was almost exactly like the "Harbingers - Khadgar", when Khadgar refused the power of Legion - ´I have yearned for the legion to cringe before the fury i would unleash, and that is why i can never accept you offer´
I mean the Sauron reveal is a genuine twist *for the characters* because they don't have access to nearly as much information as we do, but it's something the audience can easily deduce because we *know* there has to be a Sauron reveal and we get a bunch of hints the characters aren't privy to. It makes sense that the characters need more time to figure it out, while the audience is ready for it! Personally I quite like that Adar was telling the truth, as far as he knew.
@@harmanbeing to be fair that is actually a nice trope: you can be a powerful wizard and everything, but a stone to the dome still hurts. I like that they are still grounded, even though obviously in the end that was pretty much just a distraction
The alloy thing is obviously rushed here and I'm not a fan of how clunky that conversation was, but the idea of someone not being used to working with shitty resources hyper focusing on the way he's done things for millennia and not seeing an obvious (to someone else) alternative makes sense. People get stuck in their ways all the time, even brilliant ones. It's just conveyed clumsily in the one scene.
All the people only talking about who is Sauron, who who is are missing on all of the themes that are much more interesting to think and talk about. Its a shame because you two have proven yourself with the better call saul reactions
Kind of an odd pacing decision for The Rings of Power to spend so much time on the creation of Mordor and then 20 minutes on the creation of the Rings of Power.
I'd love to see your reactions to the extended LotR lore from the Simarillion about the time before the 1st age to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th age. The lore about the dragons (like Ancalagon the Black), Ungolian, the Balrogs of Morgoth, Morgoth and so on. Also the "what if" stories like what if Galadriel and Gandalf took the 1 ring for themselves?
I thought the show was entertaining enough, remove the LOTR name and the knowledge of the budget and its a better show I guess, but in the end it is what it is, a solid 7.5 / 8 out of 10 for me. It doesn't deserve the hate it got but it's also far from perfect.
@@ThanatoselNyx Actually, JRRT hesitated whether to represent the 'k' sound from Elvish in the Roman alphabet with 'c' or 'k'. He settled on 'c' for aesthetic reasons (including making the appearance more Latin-like), but knew that it would be mispronounced by readers sometimes. Note that in some editions of LotR, the map in Return of the King shows Cirith Ungol as 'Kirith Ungol' (drawn by Christopher Tolkien).
I do blame Amazon, it was just a money grab on their part. But also Tolkien’s estate has to carry some of the blame as well, they didn’t give Amazon much to work with (not selling the rights to the Silmarillion etc) so how would they expect them to make a film or show that paid decent homage to Tolkien? It was impossible. However, I also blame the viewership of the series and the toxic mentality of “Rings of power haters are just racist and sexist, end of story, they’re not valid” This really shouldn’t have been made, it divided everyone when tolkiens original stories were meant to inspire and unite because it was based around strong histories and the FELLOWSHIP of different races of middle earth coming together to fight for each other.
@@slis3578 Money grab? OMG are you suggesting that Amazon is... is a business? Woah - that's just crazy talk. The only people I've seen upset about it are the fundamentalist Tolkien fans who regard it as some kind of sacred text. What would stop the "division" would be if those people stopped whining and simply didn't watch it.
It's more accurate than the actual Lotr lmao, the 20years search for Gollum, The eye, Horcrux being the ring. Boromir, Faramir, Sarumans death, no Bombadil. I could go on for a very long long time. What did ROP change? Gandalf being in the 2nd age? He's named Olorin in the 2nd age so this is more accurate than the supposed book readers like you thought.
Ugh. 🤦🏼♂️ As you said (23:45), how can a mere mortal know more than the centuries-old elves? What I find truly silly is the specific information he provides, and how it is somehow a revelation to *Celebrimbor.* I'm not even a jewler or a smithy, and yet even _I_ knew about the mixing of metals just as *Halbrand* described. 🙄 _Sheesh!_ I think you asked a question around the start as to whether or not certain predicted aspects would have been at all predictable if a viewer had no previous knowledge. IMO the answer to that would not only be _no,_ as there would likely not even be anything to predict, given their search for *Sauron* is _based on an expectation_ that there will be a *Sauron.* *EDIT:* Wtf? I thought they would at least _try_ to follow the lore when possible. So, why make *Elrond* an orphan?! 🤨 ··•●✺●•··
It's a shame, Mor"mazon" has equavalently sacked the literary Osgiliath equivalent of Professor Tolkien's lore and story with season one, it is a descration of "history of the elvish speaking tongues..Get ready for a long 6 years or, ride out and meet them, the corporate machine theyocracy may have its skinny cow for now, but as we have defined on our channel in Exsurge Tolkien, now is the time to raise the beacons of Tolkien Orthodoxy and stand ready to reject any further support of ROP. To hold fast to the beautiful truth of Professor Tolkien's lore, legends and story, and to get educated and spread the joy of him through the Tolkien-verse awash in schism. Let us cross swords together and do this!.
"Always follow your nose" this phrase isn't Tolkien thing this belongs to PJ adaptation. Those parts are included for PJ movie fans not toxic Tolkien book fans. The real story is that most of the people in this world would not even know who Tolkien is if not for Peter Jackson. Peter Jackson has taken permission to make movies from a person who previously had permission for the books from the Tolkien estate. If it does not happen in time, no one will know that such books exist. One day when Tolkien's greed cannot overcome the digitization of the modern world, those books will have to be eaten by the estate itself. I am very satisfied that a series like this has come true after many years. See you in the second season.
Without Jackson, people wouldn't know who *Tolkien* is? The author of not one, but two of the most best-selling books of all time? More than any of the Harry Potter books? Than Twilight? Than Game of Thrones, the book? Oh, yeah. No-one's ever heard of him. Completely obscure. Seriously, though, why do you think Jackson was so keen to make the movies? Because Tolkien's the GOAT, and everyone knows it.
Will without a doubt go down as the biggest financial failure of tv/movie history and rightly so much like D&D with GoT this should end the incompetent and arrogant writers careers taking such liberties with the story telling and lore told by arguably the greatest story teller of all time J.R.R.Tolkein also its hard to believe these are the same people that gave such excellent reviews of breaking bad and better call saul eating up this garbage like clueless normies 🙄
So basically if galadreil would have excepted to be with helbrand, he would never become evil and would heal the world instead. But she refused and basically all happened in hobbit and lotr is her fault ? Lol It feels the show wanted to tell us that halbrand meant good and had good purposes at first but then he returned to darkness cuz galadriel rejected to be her hoe
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Sauron is the dictator extremist type, for whom the end justifies the means. In his mind he's the good guy. He is trying to fix and heal the world, even if that means destroying it first, and building it again from the ashes. Sauron is very honest to Galadriel. He trully doesn't see any difference between saving the world and dominating it. Because for him that is the only way the world can be fixed. He's not just an evil demon that's evil just for the sake of being evil.
_«Well...if it works...»_
Wait, you don't need to be a dictator extremist type to think the end justifies the means. Pretty much every society is based on making decisions that way.
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That's exactly the problem with "civilized" society; "democracy" is tyranny of the masses.
@@hoon_sol Sure, but I don't think it's wrong that the ends can justify the means.
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Enjoy your fellow tyrants in Omelas; I'll be walking away from that place.
Season 2 has been confirmed to be heavily Sauron backstory centric. We're gonna see our boy scheming all over the place in full sight
well, they already ruined Galadriel.....
No we wont lol
Nu ai nume nici forma slujitor al lui Morgoth..Galadriel rules✌️
@@Ricardo.ES91 Adar actor already left this crap and he was the best (only good) part of s1
Gandalf does say "Always follow your nose" in the Mines of Moria in LOTR.
Gandalf: I have no memory of this place. (later) Ah, it's this way.
Merry: He's remembered!
Gandalf: No, but the air doesn't smell so foul down here. If in doubt, Meriadoc, always follow your nose.
I cannot believe she didn't make a comment about that...
@@derikk321537:14 she did but she didn't know if it was Gandalf or not.
All the rings except the One Ring have jewels. In the book it’s one of the clues Gandalf uses to deduce that Frodos ring is the One
“The have magic, and you have what? No shoes!” Might be one of my favourite reactions to that moment.
The scary part is, that we definitely miss what actually this show were trying to hide from us in this episode. Not the revelation of Sauron and Gandalf. The hiden story, truly, was about question: is he, Sauron, really was trying to bind himself to the light, or it was just a game from the very beginning? That's the real thing about this episode, and if we look closely, we may find multiple clues to version, that whole season was orchestrated by Sauron, and the main instrument in that composition was Galadriel.
And people say she is a mary Sue.
I don't get how anyone can miss that Galadriel is meant to be a walking disaster
Agreed. I think he was. I think he'd been on his way to prostrate himself to Aule, his master, and when he met Galadriel he thought "aha, a task, to help me redeem myself!" and ended up in Numenor, clearly thinking "ah, maybe if I help the Numenoreans, I can redeem myself!" he repeatedly rejected the temptations of power, tried to be friendly and humble for all that it clearly chafed at his pride.
Galadriel convinced him he could help people by ruling them as King, and get revenge on Adar for good measure.
The temptation of his own strength was too much for him.
I think it’s Saruman not Gandalf.
@@Sinewmire revenge on Adar for what?
@@dmgib5239 killing him and taking his place.
Sauron being Australian makes so much sense
How dare you. Not wrong though haha, I've even been told I look like him (shorter hair, but similar). So yeah, not wrong haha
To paraphrase Frodo "a servant of the enemy would look fairer and feel fouler"
In the original lore the Seven and the Nine were made before, with the help of Sauron. But the Three were by the elven smiths only, Sauron never touched them that's why they were free of his influence. I guess they switched, and next season Sauron will be back as Annatar(Lord of Gifts) and helps Celebrimbor make the other rings. Celebrimbor and the smiths of Eregion trusted Annatar, only Galadriel and Elrond did not trust him.
Technically none of the elves trusted him, ie Elrond, Gil-Galad, Galadriel, and the other elven kingdoms, only Eregion run by Celebrimbor trusted him. Trusted him to their demise of course, but I am glad to see a friendly lore bringer here.
I have no idea if they are allowed to use Annatar. Is he in the appendix?
I doubt they have the rights to Annatar.
@@clownofthetimes6727 I honestly don't know if they have the rights to it. In the Tale of Years (LotR appendix) mentioned that Sauron tried to seduce the eldar and he was successfull with the smiths of Eregion. But the name itself is not there. I don't know how much and what they can use from the other side materials published over the years. But even if they don't say the name, the role can be there and the same.
Of course this is all speculation at this point, I'm not saying I know anything :D
Ar fi prea previzibil, au schimbat tot scenariul🤭
"He's not Sauron you bitches. You dumb bitches, he's not Sauron". Classic commentary. Thanks for the laughs.
The video ended very abruptly. Did something go wrong or was it meant to cut off when it did?
Let's be honest,in battle one-on-one,Galadriel would have no chances against Sauron.Yeah-yeah,i know,now you will tell me,that in "Hobbit",Galadriel have cast Sauron's spirit away from Dol-Guldur with help of her magic,yet pay your attention,that in that moment Sauron's spirit was still weakened without his One Ring,he still haven't restored his entire potential,and had no physical body,besides,to cast Sauron away with magic,Galadriel have spent such a huge amount of her energy,that it almost killed her.
Sauron is the most honest character in Season 1. He meant what he said. He does see no difference between saving or ruling because he doesn't see any other way to save it (in his arrogance? or his accurate understanding of the downsides of both Elves and Men?)
i'm still team Halbrand
Did the video cut out at the end?
Lola's mouse, cup, and nails are colour coordinated! I'm guessing that is her favourite colour :)
Both your jaws dropping together at the beginning was hilarious.
You reacted on another of my most fav shows Thanks!! Hella enjoying to watch! I just love you 😭
@20:30 The Istar are the "Istarion" or the five Wizards sent to Middle Earth in the Second Age by the Valar (The Valar were sub-Gods to the God who created Middle-Earth whose name is escaping me at the moment). The Istar were Saruman, Gandalf, Morinhetar, Aiwendil (aka Radagast The Brown who is friends with the animals and is in the LOTR movies and books), and a fifth. All of this is explained in Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" which is a history of Middle Earth before the Third Age. While I highly recommend reading the LOTR books, I'd really skip the Silmarillion as it is more like reading the Bible or a very dry history books. While I have read the main LOTR books at least 5-6 times, it took my four attempts across a span of 40 years to finally read the Silmarillion all the way through. It explains a lot of Middle Earth history but it is just a painful read.
Like button because of Joy Division shirt 👍🏼
"I need you to remember... how to kill bitches" 🤣🤣🤣 Best comment. Great reaction as always 👏🏽
Bro manipulate the whole Audience 😂
I knew it was weird for a finale reaction to only be about 50 minutes long. I wonder if their camera ran out of battery.
I absolutely adored this finale. It made what came before even better IMO. Super excited for the coming seasons!
It was really fun seeing these reactions! The first season wasn’t perfect but I liked it more than I didn’t. If you ever end up doing ones for the LoTR movies I’d love to watch those too.
If you break a man's heart you will suffer the consequences
that broken hearted man
comes and destroys middle earth. Love is a dangerous thing.
I was rewatching the first season and every reaction of you girls before the premiere of the season 2
In The Simarilian Sauron tries to manipulate the elves first and for the most part he succeeds he gets Celebrimbor to help him make the rings of power but there were three elves that didn't trust him Gil Galahad Elrond and Galadriel
I'm betting the Galadriel that's with the Elves at the end of the episode is Sauron in disguise and the real Galadriel has been left floating down the river and left for dead
@@chrism7395 Lol nah the reason why they had Galadriel be deceived by Sauron like that was because she's meant to be the point of view of the audience who only saw the movies and didn't know that he's basically a shapeshifter and they were supposed to find out that Halbrand was Sauron when she did and in some cases it worked I've seen some reactors generally surprised that he was Sauron including this one girl who was like no he's Sauron but I liked him which is exactly the point of his disguise you're supposed to like him at first
Everyone is way overreacting with the bad critics about this show just to farm some internet points and videos.
yes yes the show could have been better, hopefully the next one will do better!
As a Tolkien fan, I loved this series ❤. Roll on season 2 and..f*ck the haters.
When the 3 elven rings were made the 7 and the 9 were already made and tint by Sauron’s evil, the 3 were pure because Sauron wasn’t around and that’s why these 3 rings were hidden from him.
I don’t know how TROP is going to move forward with these rings, maybe they were made off camera or somehow after, we’ll see ! 😮
i think the other rings will be made after by Celebrimbor and Sauron. Either he will come back under a new disguise, Annatar, or he will just come back as Halbrand. After all, Galadriel told them not to treat with Halbrand anymore, but she did not tell them why, and Celebrimbor could just ignore her advice, thinking she is probably angry at him for petty reasons. The writers decided to make Galadriel not say why Halbrand is not turstworthy, it will have consequences
5:39 Lore wise it would make the most sense if he'd be on of the blue wizzards. There were 5 Istari in total and 2 of them were blue. I think Gandalf only came to Middle-Earth in the 3rd age and not before that (in the 2nd age).
Would love this, we have no stories from them or Rhun and it could end up being something great for this show
Also, they call him The Other. Maybe the other blue wizard is already out there causing trouble
all signs point to him being Gandalf. They just took creative liberties and included characters that weren't here during that timeline because nostalgia. I mean shit, they have Isildur and Elendil in this show and completely forget that Galadriel is married.
@@darbs1832 she talks about her husband earlier in the show. I really don’t think he’s been written off
I've been waiting for this reaction for a while. I'd like to hear Milena say if she is looking forward to watching the next season.
Some have theorized that this is another Wizard, much earlier than Gandalf.
Amazing series and amazing reaction
Best of 2022 ❤
One thing you have to remember about this show is that, other than a few names, it really has nothing to do with The Lord of the Rings or anything Tolkien wrote. If you can get by that, than have fun with what is basically middle-earth 90210.
When Galadriel refused Sauron, ´And that is why i will never be at your side´ it was almost exactly like the "Harbingers - Khadgar", when Khadgar refused the power of Legion - ´I have yearned for the legion to cringe before the fury i would unleash, and that is why i can never accept you offer´
I mean the Sauron reveal is a genuine twist *for the characters* because they don't have access to nearly as much information as we do, but it's something the audience can easily deduce because we *know* there has to be a Sauron reveal and we get a bunch of hints the characters aren't privy to. It makes sense that the characters need more time to figure it out, while the audience is ready for it!
Personally I quite like that Adar was telling the truth, as far as he knew.
Are we coming back for season 2?
Imagine the greatest smith in the entire world doesn’t know about alloys 😂
Also, super evil magical beings using ancient powers controlling fire. I know, let’s throw some rocks!
@@harmanbeing to be fair that is actually a nice trope: you can be a powerful wizard and everything, but a stone to the dome still hurts. I like that they are still grounded, even though obviously in the end that was pretty much just a distraction
The alloy thing is obviously rushed here and I'm not a fan of how clunky that conversation was, but the idea of someone not being used to working with shitty resources hyper focusing on the way he's done things for millennia and not seeing an obvious (to someone else) alternative makes sense. People get stuck in their ways all the time, even brilliant ones. It's just conveyed clumsily in the one scene.
To be fair Sauron was a smith way before Celebrimbor.
Sauron is more likeable than Galadriel in this series...smh
All the people only talking about who is Sauron, who who is are missing on all of the themes that are much more interesting to think and talk about. Its a shame because you two have proven yourself with the better call saul reactions
Ei, great reaction!
@6:58 "He's not Sauron, you bitches." 🔥
I like this show, but what a clunky misdirect.
that harvard hoodie looks sick
i love how literally no one was fooled by who sauron was, really amateur writing by the amazon team, LOL
Are you planning on reacting to some movies?
I really hope y’all react to the movies 😩
Kind of an odd pacing decision for The Rings of Power to spend so much time on the creation of Mordor and then 20 minutes on the creation of the Rings of Power.
I'd love to see your reactions to the extended LotR lore from the Simarillion about the time before the 1st age to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th age. The lore about the dragons (like Ancalagon the Black), Ungolian, the Balrogs of Morgoth, Morgoth and so on. Also the "what if" stories like what if Galadriel and Gandalf took the 1 ring for themselves?
I thought the show was entertaining enough, remove the LOTR name and the knowledge of the budget and its a better show I guess, but in the end it is what it is, a solid 7.5 / 8 out of 10 for me. It doesn't deserve the hate it got but it's also far from perfect.
The girl with specs ur accent is just like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
if you liked this show, you should definitely watch The Wheel of Time! Its another Amazon epic fantasy show!
Please react to Sandman!
How does she not kill him? She can’t. He’s a celestial being. She’s an elf
Sunt teorii ca galadrirel si sauron ar fi avut o aventura..stiti ceva ?
Oh, I'm early. First comment. 👋
Pls house of the dragon
Celebrimbor it's pronounced "Kelebrimbor" not "Selebrimbor"
Always been a fan of the amount of hard Cs in Middle Earth
@@mella4376 yeah Tolkien got that from Irish (despite his racism against Irish) which doesn't have a k in it's alphabet.
@@ThanatoselNyx Actually, JRRT hesitated whether to represent the 'k' sound from Elvish in the Roman alphabet with 'c' or 'k'. He settled on 'c' for aesthetic reasons (including making the appearance more Latin-like), but knew that it would be mispronounced by readers sometimes. Note that in some editions of LotR, the map in Return of the King shows Cirith Ungol as 'Kirith Ungol' (drawn by Christopher Tolkien).
Wheres the hotd finale
Try asking nicely
I really feel like you guys should have rewatched the trilogy before this...
This is just an expensive fanfic from Amazon.
Truly a lore breaking shows
Let's gooooooo! I've been waiting for them to see the reveal. LotR extended edition reactions when?
❤️
I was waiting for it!!!
This show was an insult to tolkien
I'm not the biggest Tolkien fan but I stopped watching after episode 3 because of bad writing in general
Damn dude you talk to Tolkien?
I do blame Amazon, it was just a money grab on their part. But also Tolkien’s estate has to carry some of the blame as well, they didn’t give Amazon much to work with (not selling the rights to the Silmarillion etc) so how would they expect them to make a film or show that paid decent homage to Tolkien? It was impossible.
However, I also blame the viewership of the series and the toxic mentality of “Rings of power haters are just racist and sexist, end of story, they’re not valid”
This really shouldn’t have been made, it divided everyone when tolkiens original stories were meant to inspire and unite because it was based around strong histories and the FELLOWSHIP of different races of middle earth coming together to fight for each other.
@@slis3578 Money grab? OMG are you suggesting that Amazon is... is a business? Woah - that's just crazy talk. The only people I've seen upset about it are the fundamentalist Tolkien fans who regard it as some kind of sacred text. What would stop the "division" would be if those people stopped whining and simply didn't watch it.
The rings of power is incredibly inaccurate for the actual lord of the rings. I just wanted to inform
It's more accurate than the actual Lotr lmao, the 20years search for Gollum, The eye, Horcrux being the ring. Boromir, Faramir, Sarumans death, no Bombadil. I could go on for a very long long time. What did ROP change? Gandalf being in the 2nd age? He's named Olorin in the 2nd age so this is more accurate than the supposed book readers like you thought.
Ugh. 🤦🏼♂️ As you said (23:45), how can a mere mortal know more than the centuries-old elves? What I find truly silly is the specific information he provides, and how it is somehow a revelation to *Celebrimbor.* I'm not even a jewler or a smithy, and yet even _I_ knew about the mixing of metals just as *Halbrand* described. 🙄 _Sheesh!_
I think you asked a question around the start as to whether or not certain predicted aspects would have been at all predictable if a viewer had no previous knowledge. IMO the answer to that would not only be _no,_ as there would likely not even be anything to predict, given their search for *Sauron* is _based on an expectation_ that there will be a *Sauron.*
*EDIT:* Wtf? I thought they would at least _try_ to follow the lore when possible. So, why make *Elrond* an orphan?! 🤨
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It's a shame, Mor"mazon" has equavalently sacked the literary Osgiliath equivalent of Professor Tolkien's lore and story with season one, it is a descration of "history of the elvish speaking tongues..Get ready for a long 6 years or, ride out and meet them, the corporate machine theyocracy may have its skinny cow for now, but as we have defined on our channel in Exsurge Tolkien, now is the time to raise the beacons of Tolkien Orthodoxy and stand ready to reject any further support of ROP. To hold fast to the beautiful truth of Professor Tolkien's lore, legends and story, and to get educated and spread the joy of him through the Tolkien-verse awash in schism. Let us cross swords together and do this!.
I'll say this season ended on more of a fizzle than a high note. I'm curious about the next season but I'm not eagerly awaiting it.
I am not sure how anything in that finale could be called a fizzle.
@@dutchkel agreed, there is plenty to critic about the show but the ending was a solid landing.
"Always follow your nose" this phrase isn't Tolkien thing this belongs to PJ adaptation. Those parts are included for PJ movie fans not toxic Tolkien book fans. The real story is that most of the people in this world would not even know who Tolkien is if not for Peter Jackson. Peter Jackson has taken permission to make movies from a person who previously had permission for the books from the Tolkien estate. If it does not happen in time, no one will know that such books exist. One day when Tolkien's greed cannot overcome the digitization of the modern world, those books will have to be eaten by the estate itself. I am very satisfied that a series like this has come true after many years. See you in the second season.
Without Jackson, people wouldn't know who *Tolkien* is?
The author of not one, but two of the most best-selling books of all time? More than any of the Harry Potter books? Than Twilight? Than Game of Thrones, the book?
Oh, yeah. No-one's ever heard of him. Completely obscure.
Seriously, though, why do you think Jackson was so keen to make the movies? Because Tolkien's the GOAT, and everyone knows it.
Will without a doubt go down as the biggest financial failure of tv/movie history and rightly so much like D&D with GoT this should end the incompetent and arrogant writers careers taking such liberties with the story telling and lore told by arguably the greatest story teller of all time J.R.R.Tolkein also its hard to believe these are the same people that gave such excellent reviews of breaking bad and better call saul eating up this garbage like clueless normies 🙄
Oh get a grip
Great show if you look at it without any prejudice.
ROP is so fucking bad and has no basis in the actual lore of LOTR. =\
So basically if galadreil would have excepted to be with helbrand, he would never become evil and would heal the world instead. But she refused and basically all happened in hobbit and lotr is her fault ? Lol
It feels the show wanted to tell us that halbrand meant good and had good purposes at first but then he returned to darkness cuz galadriel rejected to be her hoe
Not at all. He’s called “Sauron the Deceiver” for a reason.
You forgot to react to one important anime series: Naruto Shippuden
Katastrofalno loša serija.
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I’m confused. Did you guys not know of the three eleven rings?? Like what??
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Insult to Tolkien !
Red thumb
you know this was bad
How do you watch this shit with such genuine interest?
You should react to Chainsaw Man it’s ongoing and it’s fun!