I got my two geckos together, they were doing fine till I noticed one was starting to get much fatter till I saw the fatter one attack the skinnier one. Sold 4 of my games to buy a second tank. Now they’re both equal size and equal weight, and just as spoiled as it gets.
Tolerating another female is not the same as benifitting from cohabiting...and I don't want any of my animals to have to "tolerate" their living situation, they deserve better than that
I totally agree that there's always a dominant animal and the submissive animal suffers because of that. They may not kill each other and it would be a very rare circumstances where both animals could be thriving.
Lol I got 4 at the pet store they were all in the same tank and I have kept it that way no fighting at all it has Ben like 8 months no problems I think this video you made is more of your opinion then research if you have different size geckos probably not a good idea. But if they are together from the jump that’s when I think it works the best then bring in a new geckos from different habits but that’s my opinion and understanding of it how it has worked so far sometimes as well with size every one is not the same size it’s in dna some will only grow so big so fast and some will explode with growth it’s all in the dna and the Animals metabolism which is also different lizard to lizard some can burn the food of fast some can’t depending on how active each one is if it’s lazy or it likes to run around hence (lizard personality) but you just got to watch when feeding 2 or more at a time to make sure everyone eats
Oof thank God. The pettubers really have more influence than they think for whatever reason. So I appreciate you advocating and explaining several of the various reasons you should.....just not.
My two females have always been separate. I’ve noticed as well that when they see each other, one of them starts flattening herself out and the other actually will start posturing, There are some very obvious dynamics of dominance even from a distance. I’d never cohab, it’s just not worth the risks to me.
I have 2 geckos cohabitating for almost 2 years they’ve been doing great. They’re always together which i find awesome! They both go under each hide together. From time to time they’re away from each other but they’re doing great!
I strongly recommend separating them ASAP. Always being together is actually a major sign of dominance, not a good sign. They’re solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. Sharing an enclosure is extremely stressful for them (signs of stress are often subtle and not always noticeable). I have seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. Please read this, an article written by someone who had two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8 Some of the many cases I’ve seen of cohabitation going wrong: imgur.com/a/3mRE7qj
We are doing the same. So far. They actually seem to prefer each other company. When I take them out individually (not to be anamorphic) but it really seems like they both have a moment of anxiety as though they are like. Where is the other. They will start to search the take for the other. As though they are scared they can’t find them. Lol
@@goatgamingyt2964awwww they love eachother. Twin flames. You’ve created such a healthy environment for them as well. Cudos to you mom. I have 1 and I’m worried she’s alone. Did you get them at the same time?
This isn't about geckos but about ball pythons, when I first got my baby she came with her sister and this "breeder" said that they "loved living together" thankfully I already had another home set up for her sister before buying them, however I could immediately notice how stressed they were with each other and the smaller one wouldn't eat anything and would constantly be on the cold side of the tank. Advice: No matter how much they seem too "like each other" Do not house certain snakes/geckos together!!
I'm so sorry to hear that 😔 I lost a guinea pig to cancer, it's just the worst because there isn't much a vet can do, and it usually will occur quite randomly. Sorry for your loss 💔
@@leopardgeckotalk thankyou x we have her ashes. She was a rescue gecko, we took her from owners feeding her dead insects and fruit and veg. We like to think that with the help and advice from this channel, her last 4 years were her best years .
This channel is so amazing, the amount of kindness you give toward your animals..wow. You made me want a leopard gecko so i got one , but only after 3 months of research on your channel. my gecko lives happily
I once had 2 females (both different types) in the same tank for close to 10 years. Never saw any issues, they shared the hides n food just fine, and never fought that I knew of. So yeah it can work, I suppose it really just depends on the geckos and their personalities.
I've had two for almodt year now and they've not fought and seem to be chill females except the spotted ones bigger and my yellows smaller for now but she doesn't eat as much as the other
@@PhonePhone-yf5qk I just had to separate the sisters I had together. They are 1 month apart in age, different clutch but same parents... Mind you I had them in a 20 long... If I had a 40 or bigger I bet it would have worked out. Since separating them the shy one is eating more etc so it's a win. I'm still a fan of cohabitation for those who can supervise etc
@@rdnkenki i have a large looking tank, it was for my birthday and for snakes but I'm keeping two leopard geckos in it cuz when I got them I didn't know It was hard to keep them together but they usually are always in the same place and don't fight (that I know of)
As soon as I started watching your videos I separated my females. And they are doing so much better and each of them are now more active. Also every time there is something I worry about, I always check to see if you have a video about it. You have helped become such a better LG keeper. Thank you
I keep a male and two females together in a 40 gallon. So far it is working out. They have their toilet area a large basking rock and separate hides for everyone. They spend some time licking each other but they are mainly spending most of their time in separate hides until it’s dark then they all come out. I do plan to breed them, but it would be nice if I could keep them like this year round.
When I got my first two leopard geckos, both females, I thought they'd do fine together. They were both young. Despite lack of any clear signs of aggression, I decided to separate them anyway, as it didn't seem worth the risk. I'm very glad today that I did. I occasionally allow them to see each other while they're out (typically with the goal of them getting along enough to just hang out together out of their own enclosures) on a desk or couch or something. One of them appears to be very, very territorial. Her initial reaction is to tail wave and strike. So yeah, I'm very glad that I separated them before they became adults.
I got two from someone else. Tried to separate them, they stopped eating. Put them together and both started eating again. We bowl and tong feed to make sure they both get enough food. If you take one out the other one goes to the door waiting for them. They check on each other and share spaces. It is funny to watch even though in the beginning I wanted to split them. They had other plans. They have been living together for three years before I got them.
I have kept 2 leopard geckos in the same cage ever since they were about a few weeks old. The cage is about 35 to 40 gallons long and I feed them seperatley so there is no chance of them fighting over food. I have had them for about 3 and a half years. No problems and completely healthy. Not saying it can’t change. They could all of a sudden start fighting for all I know. Just giving you guys my expirence. And great video. Forgot to mention I have multiple hides
Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful to keep them together. I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. I strongly recommend reading this, an article written by a person who housed two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8
Fiona Shepley thanks for that article. I did read the whole thing through. As I said, they have not shown signs of aggression yet but if they do, I have a small temporary cage that if necessary, I can put one in there. I am constantly monitoring them also. But, if things take a turn for the worse, I can separate them right away
Turner Dischinger it’s great that you’re considering separating them! Although they would only have 18x18 inches of space on either side of the divider, and they need 24x18 or 30x12 square inches minimum. But being housed separately in spaces that are slightly too small would be better than being together.
I’m new to your channel, and may I just say your tanks are so nice and beautiful! I might use them as a reference when adding to my leo’s current setup. He loves his setup Rn but I feel like I could make it more natural for him
Thank you so much. You have such helpful and informative content without judging. I recently rescued two leopard geckos and I have a LOT of questions and things to figure out.
What I'm still not convinced about is the benefits of cohabing for leos. People put it in the context of 'you can' but I havent seen any arguements for 'you should', besides maybe wanting to save space or thinking leos need a friend, which it seems to me like they don't really.
Andrea Carvalho hello ive never commented on a youtube video before lmao, but i have two female leos and ive had them for about two years now i got them from the same breeder and they are about the same age and size and i can easily disagree (not that im saying your wrong lol) , my leos do have different personalities and they may sleep in different hides at times but for the most part they stay together and sleep with each other and sometimes if i take one out the other begins to look for the one i have out, putting my two leos together was the best decision i have made.
I have my two healthy girls in a 40 breader with seven hides (2 warm moist, 2 warm dry, 2 cool dry, and one for climbing) and they seem to do well. I monitor them very closely and monitor their feeding. I have not had any problems so far, but I always prepare for the worst; therefore, I have an extra tank in case things go south.
I mean it sounds like you're definitely more prepared than most. I've heard of 2 being kept in a 10gal with max 2 hides. I think its good you're always prepared in case things go wrong.
@@cokerfamily7918 They seem to be like each other's company. Momo and Mochi will always lay next to each other, given that there enclosure is heated properly, and have never shown any sign of aggression. I am afraid that moving them would stress them out since they have been together since they were young.
Why would you wait until something happens? That’s just dumb. You’re going to wait until one of them gets seriously hurt? Risking your geckos because you’re waiting for something to go wrong is just horrible
I'm a first time owner of a male leopard gecko as I'm only use to bearded dragons as there a little different. I was gonna house my male with a male or a female bUt watching this vide really helped me so I would like to say thank you as I would not wanna wake up and qs dead so thank you hun xx
For about a month, i did house a male and female together. It was before they were of mating age. We did it since the male didn’t have a tank yet. Now, they live separate. In that small amount of time they lived peacefully, and even slept next to each other. The only time they were aggressive towards each other was when we first introduced them, and that was it
I have had my male and female Leos together in a 50 gallon for about 2 years now and 4 or so years in a 20 gallon before I got them. They have never fought for no reason nor have they fought over food as long as I feed them separate with tweesers. Every once in a while I get fertile eggs which I don't mind. Sometimes they get to them and eat them first, other times I get to them and I end up with one or two baby leos up for sale. Sometimes they hang on opposite sides of the terrarium, sometimes they're in the same hide, and sometimes they sleep pig-piled on top of each other. Personally I think that there are special cases where a male and one or two females can live together with enough floor space and even height to get away from each other (my male loves to climb). Obviously it's more work because you cannot just toss some mealworms or super-worms in a dish once a week because they may fight over it, so you have to feed them individually a couple times a week. And if anyone else is to do this and they notice scars, flesh wounds, or fighting, you have to permanently separate them because that won't stop and they can get infected. But mine seem totally fine and one isn't skinnier than the other so I will continue keeping them this way.
Sounds good except for the pig piled part, if they are on top of each other that’s a dominance sign or a fight for warmth and means you need better husbandry or a fight is waiting to happen
So, fun little story. I had to put my adult female in my adult male’s cage for like. Two minutes to quickly swap her carpet out, and I ended up having to break up a stand-off before the two minutes were up. They are not communal creatures and even if it’s breeding season and the female is ovulating, they can still arrack. My male’s lucky he had enough sense to back down slightly.
Your hamster story at 4:30 is literally MY story. I had two dwarf hamsters that lived together their whole lives until one morning I woke up & one had eaten the other one's face clean off.. I was like 7 so this was NOT the business
I have two leopard geckos females in a huge 40 gallon Breeder. I have 8 hides in there and two food and calcium bowls. They are both active and have plenty of space to do their own things. No food aggression or any threat displaces. They oddly enough like to sleep near each other in a multi layer cave or when it’s colder in their tank. They’re about the same age but one turned out to be a giant and one a regular. I would recommend two females but you need to watch how you feed if not hand feeding and make sure you have enough hides. Ps my geckos also go potty on a high up space. They both climb all the way up top to a hammock to go potty on! So funny that they do that both in the wild and in captivity. Side note they have been together since they were 16 grams and have never had issues but I do have extra housing encase problems occur randomly one day. They have also learned a lot from each other one was more shy but has learned it’s okay to be handled from watching and smelling humans on the other gecko.
Sleeping near each other is actually a major sign of dominance. Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful to keep them together. I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. I strongly recommend reading this, an article written by a person who housed two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8xcf
some people will claim hamsters are social, but they are completely solitary outside mating and young babies. both females and males are territorial and as soon as babies are old enough they leave the mom. they don't need other hamsters or human attention to thrive. even if they seem to be tolerating each other, it causes them a ton of stress.
Help! At my local pet store they have one AFT and one leopard gecko in the same tank!! When I told them that it's AFT they told me that breeder told them that it's a leopard gecko!!
Show them pictures of the two. Leopard geckos often (but not always) have spots, afts never do. Afts have stripes (although so can leos, especially young ones). Afts sometimes have a stripe down their spine and leos never have this. The two species have different humidity requirements. The high humidity an aft needs could give a leo a respiratory infection. Not to mention that they’re likely to fight, whether they’re a leo and aft or two leos. They need to be separated ASAP
I have two leopard geckos that are housed separately. I got them from a colleague of my auntie who just wanted to be shot of them. They were housed in one tank for about four years together and we were told they were both females. After what I thought was detailed research and having taken better care of them than the previous owner for about 6 months, I found one of them, Beans, to be quite badly cut up on her tail. I separated the two and after myself and my dad did much more research, found Beans to be female, but her roommate Frigus (Friggie for short) to be male. She is happy in her own vivarium now, situated above the first, and has healed up well. She is also laying fertile eggs which I am attempting to incubate. My point is: I am fairly new to gecko keeping and in my inexperience overlooked various things that led to my beloved pets becoming injured, (Friggie having sustained lighter cuts to the head). While both are doing well and despite the reassurances of my parents that I wasn't to know and that their mating had only come about due to their inproved health under my care, I still feel awful for my mistakes. To all my fellow newbies to reptile keeping, listen well: when doing your research into the care of your animal, when you think you've covered all your bases, keep digging. There is always more to learn.
Ah, from what I’ve read, dwarf hamsters are technically social animals-but in the wild they naturally stray from relationships that aren’t working and they have to be paired up. So it’s surprisingly similar to Leopard Geckos. You don’t know if it’s ever going to work out (or even if they like or just tolerate each other) whether they’re related or not. Personally, I’ve had to separate all of my dwarf hamsters-and you’re definitely right. You MUST prepare for separation of any pet if you’re going to try to keep more than one together. It’s a responsibility for you decision.
Just a note on what you said about Gizmo and Mini, if they haven't been kept together from when they're very young, the chances of fighting/agression is higher than if they were kept together from when they were very young. I'm not saying you should cohab, but this is just a note so that you know it's not the best example. :)
In the wild they do live in loose breeders colonies. In captivity this is a great thing to replicate. A colony should have 2-3 females and a male. This can only work in 75 gallons or bigger but this is the most natural way to keep Leos. Though there is nothing wrong with housing them apart if you choose.
I will pick up in round about 2 weeks three young ladies which will live in the same tank. The breader told me that should work out (they now live together and so on) and where breed at 26°C/~79°F. They should be quite social and easy going. I prepared one cold, one medium/warm and one hot hide including a small slate hide in the hot area, so they can have all there own place including a big solid slate plate underneath the heating lamp which is managed by a exoterra evo. It is my first setup and I invested now a lot of time to improve it step by step (one part because of all your videos) and I think i'm on a good way. they also have a side and back wall which they can climb on, even tho after all videos, I would do it a little different the next time with other materials. I'm very curious how they will behave in there new home and i'm hoping for the best.
I can support, in my experience at least, the theory of recreating a natural environment with separate living areas. I used to have 2 female leopard gecko's who were in a 100 gallon tank (left over from a Boa) and each one had their own cold/warm hide and area basically. They got on fine together, and I think it was partly due to the massively oversized tank they had giving them both enough space to do their own thing. Occasionally I'd find them under the same hide together but not usually. However, this could just have been a one off where the two got on fine and might have had nothing to do with the tank they were in. This is just my experience anyway, and I've never heard of anyone keeping leopard gecko's in such a large tank before anyway so I can't really compare.
I gotta question so can I house 3 leopard geckos in 1 40 or 45 Gallon tank and it’s super wide as well with 4 hides 2 warm hides and 2 water sources 1 1/2 moist hides and things the can crawl around on to go towards the top of the tank ?
Do you use any other lighting than uvb and arcadia jungle dawn for your New Caledonians geckos? (like a heat lamp) I want to buy gargoyle gecko and now I'm reasearchnig everything abou it. Thanks for answer. And nice video btw. :)
I use a deep heat projector with my crestie, which works amazing, but if you can't get that you can always use a ceramic heat emitter (with a thermostat of course lol), and instead of the jungle dawn you can use another type of LED light :)
My father is housing a young male leopard gecko with a adult female leopard gecko in order to breed them I am not sure if that is ok or not, but on my research I can confirm that it is wrong and I have told him they shouldn’t live together but he won’t change his mind and he threatens to take away MY baby leopard gecko away, he also does not do a lot of research and just does whatever he wants, he uses calcium sand, he only have 2 hides and one main light source that is a bright red light, he shakes the table and always stares at them and taps the tank very hard, for me I have a white UVB light with a blue light I turn on at night, I have tile substrate, A moist hide and a dry hid with to others with a fogger, temperature control, and warm and cold side
i have a 3 year old female leopard gecko and i would like to have a second, do i put them together straight away with a spare tank if needed or do i gradually introduce them?
I personally do not condone any form of cohabbing with any gender, I believe Leo's do alot better on their own (besides the ES case) I'm in a group specifically meant for beginners, I have seen tails ripped and bitten off, and two females cohabbed and on suddenly had teeth marks all over her body
yup i remember someone tagging me a pic asking what to do because one gecko had attacked the other and its skin was hanging off. when i said to separate them they said they couldnt afford another setup. I was fuming 😫. I think (though I wouldn't suggest it) if someone were to cohab their females its best done by an experienced owner who can keep an eye on them... but at the end of the day I don't think its worth it.
I 100% agree! It's awesome to hear you are against cohabbing! I've seen it done alright but the risks highly outweigh the benefits. I also get alot of questions of people saying "but the cuddle" which is another form os dominance when they lay on top of each other, but I always try and be as nice as possible when educating people (:
So I got two last year not knowing that I couldn't house then together easily, I have about like a 25-30 (I don't know but it was a big snake tank) gallon and I was wondering if I should put a separation thing in the middle and make each side?
The Grumpy Business Man yeah about that, about 2 months ago, one tried to bite the other... I quickly separated them and they are both in separate, 50 gallon bioactive tanks
I've successfully paired numerous geckos. it all depends on the animals and the way they react based on what they're used to. I've noticed that if they've spent their entire lives together then they usually get along nicely
My geckos live together in 1 terrarium (50 × 100 × 50cm) One male and one female. They have lived together all their lives and share their hiding places. Should I keep them apart too? (They never fought)
I cohab two females and they are doing great… They both eat and share their caves, sometimes they are im separate caves. I have 2 wetboxes and 5 hides for 2 females in a 120x60x60cm I do feed them seperatly ( chrickets, grashoopers etc ) they share a mealworm dish and they both eat from it. I hope it stays like this ✨
My friend who has a gecko himself took care of mine while I was away. He put them in a tank together for a few minutes and under supervision, both female, and they were completely oblivious to each other's presence even when they were close. Just big no-fucks-given energy.
I have two females who currently live together. I was planning on just buying one but when I went to the store there were two with injuries, one with a bad cut on its head and another with a dropped tail and a lame foot, so I got both because their living conditions were horrible. I plan to separate them soon, just didn’t have a second proper set up when I got them. They don’t show any signs of aggression or dominance and I feed them separately by hand so hopefully it’ll be fine until I can get another set up finished. It’s horribly stressing me out in the meantime and I monitor them constantly. FYI they are healing up great and are seen much better
I have two females, about two years apart, living in separate tanks, opposite sides of the room. I have only ever seen them appear to even notice each other once, which looked like a sudden show of dominant posturing from the older gecko, but the few times I have actually introduced them to each other they don't even acknowledge the existence of the other gecko. The younger one actually started to walk over the older like she wasn't there. haha
Please tell me what you think of this idea- I've got a 55 gal that I know is way too big for one and would really like to have a front access terrarium ( 55 gals are so darn deep but narrow). So my idea is to lay it on its side and create front doors (out of materials I'm not sure of yet) and also divide it in the middle, making a two-unit with the heat mat/warm hides in the center so I only need one mat. Can you picture it? It'll be like having two tanks next to each other with the left tank having its warm side on the right, and the right tank's warm side on the left but only needing one (large) heat mat. Probe from thermostat would be centrally located on mat. Whattya think? Yes there's the dilemma of no top ventilation but I'm hoping the materials i use for closing the front access area will solve that. (Screen mesh?)
That could work. But a 55 gallon is not too big for one gecko. There’s no such thing as too big, only too bare. The bigger the better. As long as there’s enough clutter they’ll thrive. I know someone who has one gecko in a 95 gallon and they’re thriving. I’d honestly just use it for one gecko and spoil them.
I'm currently attempting to cohab two young females, but have tempest ups ready for the second things seem to not work out. I'm being very cautious with them and they're getting 2 of everything just to be sure there's no issues with territory. But like you said it's a maybe it will maybe it won't work kind of thing. As of now they seem to be just fine with no signs of stress. I've seen them laying with eachother, not on top of, but just near eachother in the same warm hide even though they have 2 of them.
I have a 75 gallon tank and I'm going to do a bioactive setup with a cleanup crew and everything else I was hoping I could house at least two females and male but I'll have all of their needs met separately I.e having three hides per gecko what y'all's thoughts?
My two female leopard geckos have been living together for months and they are ok with each other. Both eat and I have never noticed something bad between them. They have a big tank but they prefer sleeping together on a rock
I think no matter what, they shouldn't be housed together due to you not knowing whose poop is whose, and that's a really big concern because it is necessary for watching their health.
Lol you can tell whose is whose based on size and can separate if you see watery excrement, not to mention it’s easy to watch and see if it’s healthy as they go potty. Just my experience from keeping Leo’s together for over 20 years. The pros out way the small chance of not knowing whose potty is whose but I’ve always known. Not even really an issue especially with captive bred Leo’s.
@@TooCuteToSell Oh... well by no means would I say that there are any pros to keeping leos together, except in very rare cases as mentioned in this video. Care advice 20 years ago is very different to modern care advice. Good on you for keeping them going good for that long, however!
My two females have been together for nearly 3 years. They’re same weight and size and they share hides. It’s really great because they don’t really mind each other:)
Sharing hides is actually a major sign of dominance. Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful to keep them together. I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. I strongly recommend reading this, an article written by a person who housed two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8xcf
They are fine. They have been together for 5 years since they were young. I don’t know what you think I meant by sharing hides, but I mean they can go in different hides alone without the other getting territorial. If something happens in the future, I’ll move them. But for now, they’re content with each other.
Ireland Jackson I’m sorry, what part of “I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other” do you not understand? Saying they’ve been fine for 5 years is a poor excuse. If you wait until something happens in the future one will likely end up injured or dead, and you’ll have expensive vet bills to pay. Instead of waiting until something happens, why not prevent it entirely before it’s too late and you have regrets? They’re merely tolerating each other, and one day they’ll stop. Another commenter on here made a very good point. If you’re cohabbing “properly” you’ll either have a very large tank or an extra enclosure in case they fight. Why not just use the extra enclosure for one gecko, or put a divider in their large enclosure?
@@fionashepley478 And why can I not simply comment on a video without someone criticizing me for it? You don't know what I have at home. I could have an extra tank or could not, for all you know. I appreciate you trying to deal with MY situation, but please, don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong. They are content and healthy, and if they do fight, I'm not going to force them to live together.
I have a new female gecko I plan on breeding with my male, I'm worried she may be too small. After watching this I plan on keeping them separate, but at the moment they are together. My male is twice her size so I have given her a hide he cannot fit in and she seems like she'll be safe there. Do you have any suggestions for me in the meantime? Is there anything I should be doing differently?
Thank you for this video. I've been telling my husband and kids that sooner or later we will need to separate our 2 female leopard geckos. We got them together as very young juveniles a couple of months ago, and I know that before they are adults they will each have their own habitat. Until then, I have an old smaller tank we can use to separate them immediately if needed until i get a 2nd larger enclosure set up.
What ended up happening? I got two baby sisters who sleep on top of each other in a huge tank but I’m nervous they’ll start fighting and I don’t really have space for two tanks I just want them together
My leopard gecko is so grumpy and is very lazy I take her out and she is so scared I need help she won’t eat as much as she did. She never is walking when I take her out she just acts scared
I have two female leopard geckos who are housed together. To make this work, I have two hides on the colder side and two hides on the warm side. So they can always lay in a warm or cold side at the same time. When I am feeding them, I just put in two mealworms/crickets/etc. at the same time so I am sure that they both eat as much as the other. Until now there's been no problems, but I do have a second 'emergency' tank. If things go wrong, I can place one of them in the second tank and then buy a 'real' permanent tank.
I strongly recommend separating them ASAP! Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s extremely stressful for them (signs of stress can be very subtle and aren’t always noticeable). I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other (I can link some of these cases if necessary). Not worth the risks at all. If you wait until something goes wrong it will be too late. Best to prevent it entirely. Please read this, an article written by someone who had two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/amp/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8
Hey I have an off-topic question... In a video you said you could use like a bottle cap (specifically you said milk caps) to put calcium powder in. Do I still have to dust her food with calcium? Or can I just get D3 and vitamins+minerals? Stuck. Pls help!
I have been housing two female leopard geckos together for about two years now. There were two instances when one of them accidentally bit the other while I was feeding them because she got excited from the crickets. This happens even to me when I put my finger near her.. she just sees it and thinks it is a cricket without looking carefully. So I don't think it was an act of dominance?Now (for about a year since I started housing them together) I feed them separately so that they will both get the same amount of crickets. They share the same warm caves everyday and they are still the same size/weight. They never bite each other. Do you think it's okay for them to keep living together?
Hello leopard gecko Ever since I found your channel I learned a lot about leopard geckos. I seen your video about the arcadia deep heat projector and I wanted to ask a question about it. For a beginner would you suggest them to use the deep heat projector or just a heat mat?
I rescued 2 leos they are quite young i think and one is bigger then the other but the smaller one eats more , I didnt know about leopards before taking them in and they lived in the same hide i got another and now they live in seperate hides but seem to get on and potter about themselves not taking much notice of each other but now im thinking maybe i need to think of seperating but what if they enjoy each others company i dont know what to do for the best as they have obviously lived together for sometime
I was going to let my male get big enough then put him with my full grown female but I think I will keep them separate, thanks for your facts and opinions. You are always so helpful.
About a month or 2 ago I got a female baby leopard gecko and then a friend who bought a baby female leopard gecko had to give hers up so i took it in and i let them meet each other and they were fine and they live in a 40 gal tank together and never fight, and will sometimes sleep in the same hides together, is that normal?
Two of female leopard geckos cohabitate one of them is blind and the one that isnt seams to help her and if i make a loud noise in room by mistake and the blind kne gets scared the other goes over to her and she calms down
My geckos are two females that were housed together already in the shop (the guy told me I have to buy both of them so they dont get sad, I thought like ok, sure, good selling strategy, but I bought both of them anyway). They've been living in the same tank for the last year and they get along really well. Ive never seen them attack each other. They like to have their own heated hide to sleep in, but sometimes they visit each other and sleep in a pile.
Sleeping in a pile is actually a sign of dominance. One gecko will try to sleep on the other to make them leave the hide. This is not a good sign and is a sign you should separate them!
Here is my personal thoughts, if you are housing Leopard Geckos together, they need a very large tank minimum of 30-40 Gallons per gecko. You also always should have backup setups on hand for each of the geckos and much carefully watch them. You must especially make sure all are well fed and getting along. There should also be 2x as many hot hides and hot spots as geckos, so if you have 3 Geckos in a 120 gallon tank there should be a minimum of 6 basking spots and 6 warm hides along with dozens of other hides. Leopard geckos are one of the hardest geckos to co-hab so if your doing it, do your research and use common sense!
I have two female geckos that were born together and a year later still house together. They are very close but they do sleep in different areas of tank but like to get together at the water bowl and fall asleep sometimes.
I had an idea what if you had a 40 or 60 gallon tank couldn’t you house two geckos in it? BUT split it in half with wood walls so each leopard gecko would have 30 or 20 gallons..
This probably sounds a bit naive, but I got two females a week ago and nobody told me that they should be separated (I did my research, visited the breeder and had many informative talks in the pet store where I got the supplies, also I read a book of course; but I never got the info that cohab could be a problem with females.) Of course I knew that not all animals get along so I made sure the breeder held the two together as well (in a very very big tank, but still they knew each other) and the breeder told me they will probably keep getting along just fine (but that I should monitor them of course). For me it looks like they ARE getting along fine. They spend their time in the same warm cave (even though there are two available) and except when both try to get out at the same time they don’t seem to be bothered by each other at all (and even then they do not display any sign of aggressive behavior, one just crawls through under the other or the other way around). So my question now is: Since I just recently got them, would it be a good idea to separate them now and have one them make another stressful move or should I keep them as they are for the time being and just keep monitoring them closely? I’m a student and so I’m at home most of the time in the summer anyway, so that wouldn’t be a problem.
So, i wanted to get a leopard gecko from Petsmart/petco to essentially give them a better life. And ive heard so much about not housing 2 geckos together..but since they all basically are in the same cage at those stores, and a small one at that...i wanted to get a huge tank and save 2 lives and get 6 hides. (2 warm, 2 moist, and 2 cool that way that if one is in a hide they can still have their own... and feed them seperately in a "food bin" to prevent one from eating more than the other. I was also going to every once in a while put some crickets in their terrarium to allow them to use their natural hunting instincts. Do you think this would be okay or would i still be better off buying seperate terrariums?
They must be housed separately. Please don’t buy from petco or petsmart. You may be helping one or two geckos but by giving them your money you’re supporting them and making the situation worse. It just enables them to get more geckos to replace what you buy. By saving a couple you’re condemning many more. I understand you have good intentions and it’s hard not to buy them, but buying them would be hurting more than helping. Either get them for free, at a large discount, or elsewhere.
My geckos are eight years old and sisters, they were housed together for seven years before I got them and refuse to eat without each other. They always share their hides and go in them at the same time, and they even cuddle a lot of the time. It’s not a dominant thing though, it always switches with which one has their head on top. Would this be an example of a pair that should stay together?
Could be an exception, do you notice any of the warning signs she mentioned in the video? Do you feed them separately, or just put food down for both to have?
'cuddling' is a sign of dominance. Leopard geckos don't know how to cuddle, they aren't like humans in the slightest. One of the leos is dominating the other. This is a very passive aggressive situation and you should separate them ASAP.
@@mariaweadge280 They won't eat or drink because they're getting used to their new environment. In a couple days they'll be back to normal. Although your leos could've not been acting like normal to begin with because they were together and leos are really stressed when put together. And like Rebecca said, it's not really ideal that they should be together, it's not natural to them and it is stressful. So why would you keep them in that situation? And you said they were 'cuddling'; this is a huge sign of dominance. And leos can turn on each other any day and you'd never know it was coming.
I have two females I got from a pet store and all the leopard geckos were in one tank. They were all cohabitating well as far as I could see. They clearly are already comfortable together and they almost seem to cuddle. But one is much smaller and I’m concerned that like some say, they could “change their minds” and quickly become aggressive. I’m scared the smaller one being hurt would bother me a ton bc I’m very partial to her💕😂 anyone have advice?
Please separate them ASAP! “Cuddling” is actually a major sign of dominance. This is stressful for them and they will fight sooner or later. I could link many cases of cohabitation going wrong if necessary.
I have two tanks, one with one male and one female lg, and one with one male and two females all of similar morphs. They're all aged between 8-10 years. Haven't had any issues really ever, I'd just say make sure males aren't together and there's plenty of hides/space.
I have the tanks next to eachother with a small separator so they have the choice of looking at eachother or not. The baby is very interested in my large male lol they don’t seem stressed by eachother yet but I’ve got more watching to do.
I mean, I think it might be okay to experiment and if it doesn’t work out then just leave it alone. But they are found in groups in the wild, so I’m trying to keep an open mind. (no hate)
Here in germany its quite common to keep like a 1.2 trio of leopard geckos. But germany has very different standards of reptile housing. A 120x60x60cm with a custom background and multiple hides on each sides is the recommended setup.
Even with a large enclosure and multiple hides they should never be housed together. They are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful for them (signs of stress are often subtle and not always noticeable). I have seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other, even in a large enclosure. Not worth the risks at all
@@fionashepley478 actually they live in loose groups in the wild. Im not saying u should cohab them, but if u do u need a big enclosure and a second Setup in Case they dont get along. Just wanted to Point out that if u attemp to house your Geckos together you really should use a big enclosure, not one thats considered big in the US.
Marvin Bange in the wild they mainly come together to breed. They sometimes live together because there are a finite number of hiding spots. They’re still a solitary species and don’t benefit from it. If they want to get away from each other they have miles of space to do so. In captivity they only have a few feet. If you have a second setup in case they fight, why not just use the second setup in the first place? This is worth a read, an article written by someone who had two females together for a few years before they fought www.google.ca/amp/s/aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/amp/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8
So, im getting a leopard gecko, or GECKOS. If i buy them both as babies, could they get along well? I mean, they could turn on one another, but mainly would they get along?
I strongly recommend not cohabbing. They’re very territorial and sharing an enclosure is often very stressful for them. I have seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Even after growing up together. Not worth the risks at all.
I got my two geckos together, they were doing fine till I noticed one was starting to get much fatter till I saw the fatter one attack the skinnier one. Sold 4 of my games to buy a second tank. Now they’re both equal size and equal weight, and just as spoiled as it gets.
That's really good of you. So many people just think 'meh i can't afford it so i'm not separating them'. Kudos to you!
It’s my job to keep my little ones safe, sound, and happy 😊
I dont think you want to know this but you could of fed them in different places with the same amount of food and it would of probaly been fine
You are a great person
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Tolerating another female is not the same as benifitting from cohabiting...and I don't want any of my animals to have to "tolerate" their living situation, they deserve better than that
exactly!! :) I think everyone's aim is to see their pets thrive not just tolerate the living conditions/just survive.
I totally agree that there's always a dominant animal and the submissive animal suffers because of that. They may not kill each other and it would be a very rare circumstances where both animals could be thriving.
Yep, I'd say most times someone says their geckos are getting on there almost always one gecko that isn't really thriving.
that lion king reference made me laugh super hard lol
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Lol I got 4 at the pet store they were all in the same tank and I have kept it that way no fighting at all it has Ben like 8 months no problems I think this video you made is more of your opinion then research if you have different size geckos probably not a good idea. But if they are together from the jump that’s when I think it works the best then bring in a new geckos from different habits but that’s my opinion and understanding of it how it has worked so far sometimes as well with size every one is not the same size it’s in dna some will only grow so big so fast and some will explode with growth it’s all in the dna and the Animals metabolism which is also different lizard to lizard some can burn the food of fast some can’t depending on how active each one is if it’s lazy or it likes to run around hence (lizard personality) but you just got to watch when feeding 2 or more at a time to make sure everyone eats
Me too I #### my self
I read this as “that lion king reference made me super hard”
Oof thank God. The pettubers really have more influence than they think for whatever reason. So I appreciate you advocating and explaining several of the various reasons you should.....just not.
Haha no problem :)
My two females have always been separate. I’ve noticed as well that when they see each other, one of them starts flattening herself out and the other actually will start posturing, There are some very obvious dynamics of dominance even from a distance. I’d never cohab, it’s just not worth the risks to me.
Yeah you do wonder if they act this way in an open area, imagine the stress one would be under in a tank.
I have 2 geckos cohabitating for almost 2 years they’ve been doing great. They’re always together which i find awesome! They both go under each hide together. From time to time they’re away from each other but they’re doing great!
I strongly recommend separating them ASAP. Always being together is actually a major sign of dominance, not a good sign. They’re solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. Sharing an enclosure is extremely stressful for them (signs of stress are often subtle and not always noticeable). I have seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. Please read this, an article written by someone who had two females together for a few years before they fought:
aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8
Some of the many cases I’ve seen of cohabitation going wrong:
imgur.com/a/3mRE7qj
It's definitely possible but rare or special circumstances 😉. Congratulations on it working out. In general I do not cohab but have done it
We are doing the same. So far. They actually seem to prefer each other company. When I take them out individually (not to be anamorphic) but it really seems like they both have a moment of anxiety as though they are like. Where is the other. They will start to search the take for the other. As though they are scared they can’t find them. Lol
I also have two together both gaining weight and eating equally when I separated them they got sick and quit eating
@@goatgamingyt2964awwww they love eachother. Twin flames. You’ve created such a healthy environment for them as well. Cudos to you mom. I have 1 and I’m worried she’s alone. Did you get them at the same time?
“Have you seen Lion King?!” 😂🤣😭😭
This isn't about geckos but about ball pythons, when I first got my baby she came with her sister and this "breeder" said that they "loved living together" thankfully I already had another home set up for her sister before buying them, however I could immediately notice how stressed they were with each other and the smaller one wouldn't eat anything and would constantly be on the cold side of the tank. Advice: No matter how much they seem too "like each other" Do not house certain snakes/geckos together!!
We lost our leopard gecko to cancer this week. Has been tough, keep doing what your doing, great channel.
That really sucks :( big hugs
Thanks, we know she is in a better place. She hadn't eaten since December so was so thin. #love your lizard kids.
I'm so sorry to hear that 😔 I lost a guinea pig to cancer, it's just the worst because there isn't much a vet can do, and it usually will occur quite randomly. Sorry for your loss 💔
@@leopardgeckotalk thankyou x we have her ashes. She was a rescue gecko, we took her from owners feeding her dead insects and fruit and veg. We like to think that with the help and advice from this channel, her last 4 years were her best years .
Armoured Reaper Poor gecko. :(
Unless they're rescues and can't thrive without each other like Jessica's leos I don't see the point of cohabbing. Too much stress and risk.
Yup same :)
Thank you so much for all your videos, my gecko Lemonade appreciates your expertise :)
thank you :D
My gecko is also named lemonade! >:O
@@H0IidayGirl1225 i have larry- does that count
You are the only person I watch for leopard geckos 🦎
This channel is so amazing, the amount of kindness you give toward your animals..wow. You made me want a leopard gecko so i got one , but only after 3 months of research on your channel. my gecko lives happily
I once had 2 females (both different types) in the same tank for close to 10 years. Never saw any issues, they shared the hides n food just fine, and never fought that I knew of. So yeah it can work, I suppose it really just depends on the geckos and their personalities.
I have 2 females both are 3.5 years old and they have never had any problems
I'd say if you're going to try it make sure to supervise it very very well and have separate tank on stand by
I've had two for almodt year now and they've not fought and seem to be chill females except the spotted ones bigger and my yellows smaller for now but she doesn't eat as much as the other
@@PhonePhone-yf5qk I just had to separate the sisters I had together. They are 1 month apart in age, different clutch but same parents... Mind you I had them in a 20 long... If I had a 40 or bigger I bet it would have worked out. Since separating them the shy one is eating more etc so it's a win. I'm still a fan of cohabitation for those who can supervise etc
@@rdnkenki i have a large looking tank, it was for my birthday and for snakes but I'm keeping two leopard geckos in it cuz when I got them I didn't know It was hard to keep them together but they usually are always in the same place and don't fight (that I know of)
As soon as I started watching your videos I separated my females. And they are doing so much better and each of them are now more active. Also every time there is something I worry about, I always check to see if you have a video about it. You have helped become such a better LG keeper. Thank you
I love her, goherping, and Jessica! I'm glad she mentioned them☺️
Thank you so much for talking about this!! So often I try to talk to folks about this
No problem :)
Why are there 158 views and only 26 likes?! How can you not like her videos?!
😅 thank you
I keep a male and two females together in a 40 gallon. So far it is working out. They have their toilet area a large basking rock and separate hides for everyone. They spend some time licking each other but they are mainly spending most of their time in separate hides until it’s dark then they all come out. I do plan to breed them, but it would be nice if I could keep them like this year round.
When I got my first two leopard geckos, both females, I thought they'd do fine together. They were both young. Despite lack of any clear signs of aggression, I decided to separate them anyway, as it didn't seem worth the risk. I'm very glad today that I did. I occasionally allow them to see each other while they're out (typically with the goal of them getting along enough to just hang out together out of their own enclosures) on a desk or couch or something. One of them appears to be very, very territorial. Her initial reaction is to tail wave and strike. So yeah, I'm very glad that I separated them before they became adults.
Aw yeah I feel i'd always be on edge, worried they'll fight, you did the best thing for them really :)
I got two from someone else. Tried to separate them, they stopped eating. Put them together and both started eating again. We bowl and tong feed to make sure they both get enough food. If you take one out the other one goes to the door waiting for them. They check on each other and share spaces. It is funny to watch even though in the beginning I wanted to split them. They had other plans. They have been living together for three years before I got them.
Well done I completely agree 👏🏻
I have kept 2 leopard geckos in the same cage ever since they were about a few weeks old. The cage is about 35 to 40 gallons long and I feed them seperatley so there is no chance of them fighting over food. I have had them for about 3 and a half years. No problems and completely healthy. Not saying it can’t change. They could all of a sudden start fighting for all I know. Just giving you guys my expirence. And great video. Forgot to mention I have multiple hides
Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful to keep them together. I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. I strongly recommend reading this, an article written by a person who housed two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8
Fiona Shepley thanks for that article. I did read the whole thing through. As I said, they have not shown signs of aggression yet but if they do, I have a small temporary cage that if necessary, I can put one in there. I am constantly monitoring them also. But, if things take a turn for the worse, I can separate them right away
Fiona Shepley after further thought, I am strongly considering creating a natural divider splitting their large exo terra in half.
Turner Dischinger it’s great that you’re considering separating them! Although they would only have 18x18 inches of space on either side of the divider, and they need 24x18 or 30x12 square inches minimum. But being housed separately in spaces that are slightly too small would be better than being together.
I’m new to your channel, and may I just say your tanks are so nice and beautiful! I might use them as a reference when adding to my leo’s current setup. He loves his setup Rn but I feel like I could make it more natural for him
aw thanks so much :)
Thank you so much. You have such helpful and informative content without judging. I recently rescued two leopard geckos and I have a LOT of questions and things to figure out.
What I'm still not convinced about is the benefits of cohabing for leos. People put it in the context of 'you can' but I havent seen any arguements for 'you should', besides maybe wanting to save space or thinking leos need a friend, which it seems to me like they don't really.
Andrea Carvalho hello ive never commented on a youtube video before lmao, but i have two female leos and ive had them for about two years now i got them from the same breeder and they are about the same age and size and i can easily disagree (not that im saying your wrong lol) , my leos do have different personalities and they may sleep in different hides at times but for the most part they stay together and sleep with each other and sometimes if i take one out the other begins to look for the one i have out, putting my two leos together was the best decision i have made.
I have my two healthy girls in a 40 breader with seven hides (2 warm moist, 2 warm dry, 2 cool dry, and one for climbing) and they seem to do well. I monitor them very closely and monitor their feeding. I have not had any problems so far, but I always prepare for the worst; therefore, I have an extra tank in case things go south.
Viviam Ruiz Quintana if you can do all that why not just house them separately
I mean it sounds like you're definitely more prepared than most. I've heard of 2 being kept in a 10gal with max 2 hides. I think its good you're always prepared in case things go wrong.
@@cokerfamily7918 They seem to be like each other's company. Momo and Mochi will always lay next to each other, given that there enclosure is heated properly, and have never shown any sign of aggression. I am afraid that moving them would stress them out since they have been together since they were young.
Why would you wait until something happens? That’s just dumb. You’re going to wait until one of them gets seriously hurt? Risking your geckos because you’re waiting for something to go wrong is just horrible
@@leah-kd1hq Thanks for your advice :) it is very helpful and productive!
Great points made in this video and I like how you incorporated other pet tubers into this video and their opinion
thank you :)
I'm a first time owner of a male leopard gecko as I'm only use to bearded dragons as there a little different. I was gonna house my male with a male or a female bUt watching this vide really helped me so I would like to say thank you as I would not wanna wake up and qs dead so thank you hun xx
For about a month, i did house a male and female together. It was before they were of mating age. We did it since the male didn’t have a tank yet. Now, they live separate. In that small amount of time they lived peacefully, and even slept next to each other. The only time they were aggressive towards each other was when we first introduced them, and that was it
Ah good they have their own tanks now 😊
Same with me, me and family are planning to separate our male and female in the next couple of weeks
I have had my male and female Leos together in a 50 gallon for about 2 years now and 4 or so years in a 20 gallon before I got them. They have never fought for no reason nor have they fought over food as long as I feed them separate with tweesers. Every once in a while I get fertile eggs which I don't mind. Sometimes they get to them and eat them first, other times I get to them and I end up with one or two baby leos up for sale. Sometimes they hang on opposite sides of the terrarium, sometimes they're in the same hide, and sometimes they sleep pig-piled on top of each other. Personally I think that there are special cases where a male and one or two females can live together with enough floor space and even height to get away from each other (my male loves to climb). Obviously it's more work because you cannot just toss some mealworms or super-worms in a dish once a week because they may fight over it, so you have to feed them individually a couple times a week. And if anyone else is to do this and they notice scars, flesh wounds, or fighting, you have to permanently separate them because that won't stop and they can get infected. But mine seem totally fine and one isn't skinnier than the other so I will continue keeping them this way.
Sounds good except for the pig piled part, if they are on top of each other that’s a dominance sign or a fight for warmth and means you need better husbandry or a fight is waiting to happen
So, fun little story. I had to put my adult female in my adult male’s cage for like. Two minutes to quickly swap her carpet out, and I ended up having to break up a stand-off before the two minutes were up. They are not communal creatures and even if it’s breeding season and the female is ovulating, they can still arrack. My male’s lucky he had enough sense to back down slightly.
Your hamster story at 4:30 is literally MY story. I had two dwarf hamsters that lived together their whole lives until one morning I woke up & one had eaten the other one's face clean off.. I was like 7 so this was NOT the business
I have two leopard geckos females in a huge 40 gallon Breeder. I have 8 hides in there and two food and calcium bowls. They are both active and have plenty of space to do their own things. No food aggression or any threat displaces. They oddly enough like to sleep near each other in a multi layer cave or when it’s colder in their tank. They’re about the same age but one turned out to be a giant and one a regular. I would recommend two females but you need to watch how you feed if not hand feeding and make sure you have enough hides. Ps my geckos also go potty on a high up space. They both climb all the way up top to a hammock to go potty on! So funny that they do that both in the wild and in captivity. Side note they have been together since they were 16 grams and have never had issues but I do have extra housing encase problems occur randomly one day. They have also learned a lot from each other one was more shy but has learned it’s okay to be handled from watching and smelling humans on the other gecko.
Sleeping near each other is actually a major sign of dominance. Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful to keep them together. I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. I strongly recommend reading this, an article written by a person who housed two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8xcf
some people will claim hamsters are social, but they are completely solitary outside mating and young babies. both females and males are territorial and as soon as babies are old enough they leave the mom. they don't need other hamsters or human attention to thrive. even if they seem to be tolerating each other, it causes them a ton of stress.
Help! At my local pet store they have one AFT and one leopard gecko in the same tank!! When I told them that it's AFT they told me that breeder told them that it's a leopard gecko!!
Show them pictures of the two. Leopard geckos often (but not always) have spots, afts never do. Afts have stripes (although so can leos, especially young ones). Afts sometimes have a stripe down their spine and leos never have this. The two species have different humidity requirements. The high humidity an aft needs could give a leo a respiratory infection. Not to mention that they’re likely to fight, whether they’re a leo and aft or two leos. They need to be separated ASAP
Same 🤦♀️😢
I have two leopard geckos that are housed separately. I got them from a colleague of my auntie who just wanted to be shot of them. They were housed in one tank for about four years together and we were told they were both females. After what I thought was detailed research and having taken better care of them than the previous owner for about 6 months, I found one of them, Beans, to be quite badly cut up on her tail. I separated the two and after myself and my dad did much more research, found Beans to be female, but her roommate Frigus (Friggie for short) to be male. She is happy in her own vivarium now, situated above the first, and has healed up well. She is also laying fertile eggs which I am attempting to incubate. My point is: I am fairly new to gecko keeping and in my inexperience overlooked various things that led to my beloved pets becoming injured, (Friggie having sustained lighter cuts to the head). While both are doing well and despite the reassurances of my parents that I wasn't to know and that their mating had only come about due to their inproved health under my care, I still feel awful for my mistakes. To all my fellow newbies to reptile keeping, listen well: when doing your research into the care of your animal, when you think you've covered all your bases, keep digging.
There is always more to learn.
Thanks for sharing your story. :)
Ah, from what I’ve read, dwarf hamsters are technically social animals-but in the wild they naturally stray from relationships that aren’t working and they have to be paired up. So it’s surprisingly similar to Leopard Geckos. You don’t know if it’s ever going to work out (or even if they like or just tolerate each other) whether they’re related or not.
Personally, I’ve had to separate all of my dwarf hamsters-and you’re definitely right. You MUST prepare for separation of any pet if you’re going to try to keep more than one together. It’s a responsibility for you decision.
Just a note on what you said about Gizmo and Mini, if they haven't been kept together from when they're very young, the chances of fighting/agression is higher than if they were kept together from when they were very young. I'm not saying you should cohab, but this is just a note so that you know it's not the best example. :)
In the wild they do live in loose breeders colonies. In captivity this is a great thing to replicate. A colony should have 2-3 females and a male. This can only work in 75 gallons or bigger but this is the most natural way to keep Leos. Though there is nothing wrong with housing them apart if you choose.
I will pick up in round about 2 weeks three young ladies which will live in the same tank. The breader told me that should work out (they now live together and so on) and where breed at 26°C/~79°F. They should be quite social and easy going. I prepared one cold, one medium/warm and one hot hide including a small slate hide in the hot area, so they can have all there own place including a big solid slate plate underneath the heating lamp which is managed by a exoterra evo.
It is my first setup and I invested now a lot of time to improve it step by step (one part because of all your videos) and I think i'm on a good way. they also have a side and back wall which they can climb on, even tho after all videos, I would do it a little different the next time with other materials.
I'm very curious how they will behave in there new home and i'm hoping for the best.
Great video 👍🏽 highly informative
I can support, in my experience at least, the theory of recreating a natural environment with separate living areas. I used to have 2 female leopard gecko's who were in a 100 gallon tank (left over from a Boa) and each one had their own cold/warm hide and area basically. They got on fine together, and I think it was partly due to the massively oversized tank they had giving them both enough space to do their own thing. Occasionally I'd find them under the same hide together but not usually.
However, this could just have been a one off where the two got on fine and might have had nothing to do with the tank they were in. This is just my experience anyway, and I've never heard of anyone keeping leopard gecko's in such a large tank before anyway so I can't really compare.
wow big tank, yeah sounds like they had lots of room - but as you said it could just be a one off.
I gotta question so can I house 3 leopard geckos in 1 40 or 45 Gallon tank and it’s super wide as well with 4 hides 2 warm hides and 2 water sources 1 1/2 moist hides and things the can crawl around on to go towards the top of the tank ?
Do you use any other lighting than uvb and arcadia jungle dawn for your New Caledonians geckos? (like a heat lamp) I want to buy gargoyle gecko and now I'm reasearchnig everything abou it.
Thanks for answer.
And nice video btw. :)
I use a deep heat projector with my crestie, which works amazing, but if you can't get that you can always use a ceramic heat emitter (with a thermostat of course lol), and instead of the jungle dawn you can use another type of LED light :)
My father is housing a young male leopard gecko with a adult female leopard gecko in order to breed them I am not sure if that is ok or not, but on my research I can confirm that it is wrong and I have told him they shouldn’t live together but he won’t change his mind and he threatens to take away MY baby leopard gecko away, he also does not do a lot of research and just does whatever he wants, he uses calcium sand, he only have 2 hides and one main light source that is a bright red light, he shakes the table and always stares at them and taps the tank very hard, for me I have a white UVB light with a blue light I turn on at night, I have tile substrate, A moist hide and a dry hid with to others with a fogger, temperature control, and warm and cold side
i have a 3 year old female leopard gecko and i would like to have a second, do i put them together straight away with a spare tank if needed or do i gradually introduce them?
I personally do not condone any form of cohabbing with any gender, I believe Leo's do alot better on their own (besides the ES case) I'm in a group specifically meant for beginners, I have seen tails ripped and bitten off, and two females cohabbed and on suddenly had teeth marks all over her body
yup i remember someone tagging me a pic asking what to do because one gecko had attacked the other and its skin was hanging off. when i said to separate them they said they couldnt afford another setup. I was fuming 😫. I think (though I wouldn't suggest it) if someone were to cohab their females its best done by an experienced owner who can keep an eye on them... but at the end of the day I don't think its worth it.
I 100% agree! It's awesome to hear you are against cohabbing! I've seen it done alright but the risks highly outweigh the benefits. I also get alot of questions of people saying "but the cuddle" which is another form os dominance when they lay on top of each other, but I always try and be as nice as possible when educating people (:
So I got two last year not knowing that I couldn't house then together easily, I have about like a 25-30 (I don't know but it was a big snake tank) gallon and I was wondering if I should put a separation thing in the middle and make each side?
I keep 2 together and they have been fine for about 5 years, they are the same size, and are both fine
This is reassuring as I rescued 2 and the rescue said they lived together.
The Grumpy Business Man yeah about that, about 2 months ago, one tried to bite the other... I quickly separated them and they are both in separate, 50 gallon bioactive tanks
I've successfully paired numerous geckos. it all depends on the animals and the way they react based on what they're used to. I've noticed that if they've spent their entire lives together then they usually get along nicely
My geckos live together in 1 terrarium (50 × 100 × 50cm) One male and one female. They have lived together all their lives and share their hiding places. Should I keep them apart too? (They never fought)
"have you seen the lion king?" 😂
I cohab two females and they are doing great… They both eat and share their caves, sometimes they are im separate caves. I have 2 wetboxes and 5 hides for 2 females in a 120x60x60cm I do feed them seperatly ( chrickets, grashoopers etc ) they share a mealworm dish and they both eat from it. I hope it stays like this ✨
Are they still in 1 Enclosure any update sir? Any sign of aggression? Im planning to cohabitate my leopard gecko
@@stormshadow4797 still all good even added a third one 🙃
My friend who has a gecko himself took care of mine while I was away. He put them in a tank together for a few minutes and under supervision, both female, and they were completely oblivious to each other's presence even when they were close. Just big no-fucks-given energy.
I have two females who currently live together. I was planning on just buying one but when I went to the store there were two with injuries, one with a bad cut on its head and another with a dropped tail and a lame foot, so I got both because their living conditions were horrible. I plan to separate them soon, just didn’t have a second proper set up when I got them. They don’t show any signs of aggression or dominance and I feed them separately by hand so hopefully it’ll be fine until I can get another set up finished. It’s horribly stressing me out in the meantime and I monitor them constantly. FYI they are healing up great and are seen much better
I have two females, about two years apart, living in separate tanks, opposite sides of the room. I have only ever seen them appear to even notice each other once, which looked like a sudden show of dominant posturing from the older gecko, but the few times I have actually introduced them to each other they don't even acknowledge the existence of the other gecko. The younger one actually started to walk over the older like she wasn't there. haha
Yeah I think they just do better alone :)
Please tell me what you think of this idea-
I've got a 55 gal that I know is way too big for one and would really like to have a front access terrarium ( 55 gals are so darn deep but narrow). So my idea is to lay it on its side and create front doors (out of materials I'm not sure of yet) and also divide it in the middle, making a two-unit with the heat mat/warm hides in the center so I only need one mat. Can you picture it? It'll be like having two tanks next to each other with the left tank having its warm side on the right, and the right tank's warm side on the left but only needing one (large) heat mat. Probe from thermostat would be centrally located on mat. Whattya think? Yes there's the dilemma of no top ventilation but I'm hoping the materials i use for closing the front access area will solve that. (Screen mesh?)
That could work. But a 55 gallon is not too big for one gecko. There’s no such thing as too big, only too bare. The bigger the better. As long as there’s enough clutter they’ll thrive. I know someone who has one gecko in a 95 gallon and they’re thriving. I’d honestly just use it for one gecko and spoil them.
I'm currently attempting to cohab two young females, but have tempest ups ready for the second things seem to not work out. I'm being very cautious with them and they're getting 2 of everything just to be sure there's no issues with territory. But like you said it's a maybe it will maybe it won't work kind of thing. As of now they seem to be just fine with no signs of stress. I've seen them laying with eachother, not on top of, but just near eachother in the same warm hide even though they have 2 of them.
I love your videos so much and have learnt so much from this channel! I
aw thank you :D
I have a 75 gallon tank and I'm going to do a bioactive setup with a cleanup crew and everything else I was hoping I could house at least two females and male but I'll have all of their needs met separately I.e having three hides per gecko what y'all's thoughts?
My two female leopard geckos have been living together for months and they are ok with each other. Both eat and I have never noticed something bad between them. They have a big tank but they prefer sleeping together on a rock
I think no matter what, they shouldn't be housed together due to you not knowing whose poop is whose, and that's a really big concern because it is necessary for watching their health.
Lol you can tell whose is whose based on size and can separate if you see watery excrement, not to mention it’s easy to watch and see if it’s healthy as they go potty. Just my experience from keeping Leo’s together for over 20 years. The pros out way the small chance of not knowing whose potty is whose but I’ve always known. Not even really an issue especially with captive bred Leo’s.
@@TooCuteToSell Oh... well by no means would I say that there are any pros to keeping leos together, except in very rare cases as mentioned in this video. Care advice 20 years ago is very different to modern care advice. Good on you for keeping them going good for that long, however!
@@TooCuteToSell lol did you even watch the video?
My two females have been together for nearly 3 years. They’re same weight and size and they share hides. It’s really great because they don’t really mind each other:)
Sharing hides is actually a major sign of dominance. Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful to keep them together. I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Not worth the risks at all. I strongly recommend reading this, an article written by a person who housed two females together for a few years before they fought: aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/page/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8xcf
They are fine. They have been together for 5 years since they were young. I don’t know what you think I meant by sharing hides, but I mean they can go in different hides alone without the other getting territorial. If something happens in the future, I’ll move them. But for now, they’re content with each other.
Ireland Jackson I’m sorry, what part of “I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other” do you not understand? Saying they’ve been fine for 5 years is a poor excuse. If you wait until something happens in the future one will likely end up injured or dead, and you’ll have expensive vet bills to pay. Instead of waiting until something happens, why not prevent it entirely before it’s too late and you have regrets? They’re merely tolerating each other, and one day they’ll stop. Another commenter on here made a very good point. If you’re cohabbing “properly” you’ll either have a very large tank or an extra enclosure in case they fight. Why not just use the extra enclosure for one gecko, or put a divider in their large enclosure?
@@fionashepley478 And why can I not simply comment on a video without someone criticizing me for it? You don't know what I have at home. I could have an extra tank or could not, for all you know. I appreciate you trying to deal with MY situation, but please, don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong. They are content and healthy, and if they do fight, I'm not going to force them to live together.
I have a new female gecko I plan on breeding with my male, I'm worried she may be too small. After watching this I plan on keeping them separate, but at the moment they are together. My male is twice her size so I have given her a hide he cannot fit in and she seems like she'll be safe there. Do you have any suggestions for me in the meantime? Is there anything I should be doing differently?
I have a male and a female in a 128 gallon what’s your thoughts??
Thank you for this video. I've been telling my husband and kids that sooner or later we will need to separate our 2 female leopard geckos. We got them together as very young juveniles a couple of months ago, and I know that before they are adults they will each have their own habitat. Until then, I have an old smaller tank we can use to separate them immediately if needed until i get a 2nd larger enclosure set up.
What ended up happening? I got two baby sisters who sleep on top of each other in a huge tank but I’m nervous they’ll start fighting and I don’t really have space for two tanks I just want them together
My leopard gecko is so grumpy and is very lazy I take her out and she is so scared I need help she won’t eat as much as she did. She never is walking when I take her out she just acts scared
Is she new? She probably isn't grumpy or lazy lol, just a little wary. Also leos do tend to sleep a lot lol
I have two female leopard geckos who are housed together. To make this work, I have two hides on the colder side and two hides on the warm side. So they can always lay in a warm or cold side at the same time. When I am feeding them, I just put in two mealworms/crickets/etc. at the same time so I am sure that they both eat as much as the other. Until now there's been no problems, but I do have a second 'emergency' tank. If things go wrong, I can place one of them in the second tank and then buy a 'real' permanent tank.
I strongly recommend separating them ASAP! Leopard geckos are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s extremely stressful for them (signs of stress can be very subtle and aren’t always noticeable). I’ve seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other (I can link some of these cases if necessary). Not worth the risks at all. If you wait until something goes wrong it will be too late. Best to prevent it entirely. Please read this, an article written by someone who had two females together for a few years before they fought:
aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/amp/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8
Hey I have an off-topic question...
In a video you said you could use like a bottle cap (specifically you said milk caps) to put calcium powder in. Do I still have to dust her food with calcium? Or can I just get D3 and vitamins+minerals? Stuck. Pls help!
Dust with calcium every other feeding and vitamins every three feedings. Don’t leave any supplements in the enclosure.
Fiona Shepley ok thanks!!
Why did my big Leo continuously follow and lick my baby Leo? (Don’t worry I keep them separate I was just curious how they would react to eachother)
Hey Leapord gecko I was wondering were you got these kind of connected tanks cause I wanna get one that’s connected like this
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I have been housing two female leopard geckos together for about two years now. There were two instances when one of them accidentally bit the other while I was feeding them because she got excited from the crickets. This happens even to me when I put my finger near her.. she just sees it and thinks it is a cricket without looking carefully. So I don't think it was an act of dominance?Now (for about a year since I started housing them together) I feed them separately so that they will both get the same amount of crickets. They share the same warm caves everyday and they are still the same size/weight. They never bite each other. Do you think it's okay for them to keep living together?
I already got a 20 gallon tank and is planning on getting two leopard geckos soon what should I do
Hello leopard gecko
Ever since I found your channel I learned a lot about leopard geckos.
I seen your video about the arcadia deep heat projector and I wanted to ask a question about it.
For a beginner would you suggest them to use the deep heat projector or just a heat mat?
Hey there! I think if you're just starting off, go for a heat mat and thermostat (habistat mat stat is a good thermostat).
@@leopardgeckotalk Ok thanks for the info
I rescued 2 leos they are quite young i think and one is bigger then the other but the smaller one eats more , I didnt know about leopards before taking them in and they lived in the same hide i got another and now they live in seperate hides but seem to get on and potter about themselves not taking much notice of each other but now im thinking maybe i need to think of seperating but what if they enjoy each others company i dont know what to do for the best as they have obviously lived together for sometime
I was going to let my male get big enough then put him with my full grown female but I think I will keep them separate, thanks for your facts and opinions. You are always so helpful.
I swear I see you every where, even in those leopard geckos eating pinkie videos
I got 2 males in my 40 gallon and I got like 4 hides but they like one more and I find them together all the time in there
About a month or 2 ago I got a female baby leopard gecko and then a friend who bought a baby female leopard gecko had to give hers up so i took it in and i let them meet each other and they were fine and they live in a 40 gal tank together and never fight, and will sometimes sleep in the same hides together, is that normal?
could I house both my 4 month old leopard gecko's together?
hi , can i put 1 male and 2 females in 1 enclousure , they are all of different breeds
Are lizard and gecko behaviors with eachother different?
Two of female leopard geckos cohabitate one of them is blind and the one that isnt seams to help her and if i make a loud noise in room by mistake and the blind kne gets scared the other goes over to her and she calms down
My geckos are two females that were housed together already in the shop (the guy told me I have to buy both of them so they dont get sad, I thought like ok, sure, good selling strategy, but I bought both of them anyway). They've been living in the same tank for the last year and they get along really well. Ive never seen them attack each other. They like to have their own heated hide to sleep in, but sometimes they visit each other and sleep in a pile.
Sleeping in a pile is actually a sign of dominance. One gecko will try to sleep on the other to make them leave the hide. This is not a good sign and is a sign you should separate them!
Here is my personal thoughts, if you are housing Leopard Geckos together, they need a very large tank minimum of 30-40 Gallons per gecko. You also always should have backup setups on hand for each of the geckos and much carefully watch them. You must especially make sure all are well fed and getting along. There should also be 2x as many hot hides and hot spots as geckos, so if you have 3 Geckos in a 120 gallon tank there should be a minimum of 6 basking spots and 6 warm hides along with dozens of other hides. Leopard geckos are one of the hardest geckos to co-hab so if your doing it, do your research and use common sense!
Yes,ofc😍
I have two female geckos that were born together and a year later still house together. They are very close but they do sleep in different areas of tank but like to get together at the water bowl and fall asleep sometimes.
How are they now?
Could you please make a video on how to breed mealworms?
I had an idea what if you had a 40 or 60 gallon tank couldn’t you house two geckos in it? BUT split it in half with wood walls so each leopard gecko would have 30 or 20 gallons..
Thats one tank with two enclosures.
This probably sounds a bit naive, but I got two females a week ago and nobody told me that they should be separated (I did my research, visited the breeder and had many informative talks in the pet store where I got the supplies, also I read a book of course; but I never got the info that cohab could be a problem with females.) Of course I knew that not all animals get along so I made sure the breeder held the two together as well (in a very very big tank, but still they knew each other) and the breeder told me they will probably keep getting along just fine (but that I should monitor them of course). For me it looks like they ARE getting along fine. They spend their time in the same warm cave (even though there are two available) and except when both try to get out at the same time they don’t seem to be bothered by each other at all (and even then they do not display any sign of aggressive behavior, one just crawls through under the other or the other way around). So my question now is: Since I just recently got them, would it be a good idea to separate them now and have one them make another stressful move or should I keep them as they are for the time being and just keep monitoring them closely? I’m a student and so I’m at home most of the time in the summer anyway, so that wouldn’t be a problem.
So, i wanted to get a leopard gecko from Petsmart/petco to essentially give them a better life. And ive heard so much about not housing 2 geckos together..but since they all basically are in the same cage at those stores, and a small one at that...i wanted to get a huge tank and save 2 lives and get 6 hides. (2 warm, 2 moist, and 2 cool that way that if one is in a hide they can still have their own... and feed them seperately in a "food bin" to prevent one from eating more than the other. I was also going to every once in a while put some crickets in their terrarium to allow them to use their natural hunting instincts. Do you think this would be okay or would i still be better off buying seperate terrariums?
They must be housed separately. Please don’t buy from petco or petsmart. You may be helping one or two geckos but by giving them your money you’re supporting them and making the situation worse. It just enables them to get more geckos to replace what you buy. By saving a couple you’re condemning many more. I understand you have good intentions and it’s hard not to buy them, but buying them would be hurting more than helping. Either get them for free, at a large discount, or elsewhere.
I got two tiny baby sisters who sleep on top of each other. I hope they don’t end up fighting :( I got them a huge tank and went way over my budget.
My geckos are eight years old and sisters, they were housed together for seven years before I got them and refuse to eat without each other. They always share their hides and go in them at the same time, and they even cuddle a lot of the time. It’s not a dominant thing though, it always switches with which one has their head on top. Would this be an example of a pair that should stay together?
Could be an exception, do you notice any of the warning signs she mentioned in the video? Do you feed them separately, or just put food down for both to have?
'cuddling' is a sign of dominance. Leopard geckos don't know how to cuddle, they aren't like humans in the slightest. One of the leos is dominating the other. This is a very passive aggressive situation and you should separate them ASAP.
Kay Sheridan they always change though, and if they’re separated they don’t eat or drink
phelanpt nope! They’re really friendly together
@@mariaweadge280 They won't eat or drink because they're getting used to their new environment. In a couple days they'll be back to normal. Although your leos could've not been acting like normal to begin with because they were together and leos are really stressed when put together.
And like Rebecca said, it's not really ideal that they should be together, it's not natural to them and it is stressful. So why would you keep them in that situation? And you said they were 'cuddling'; this is a huge sign of dominance. And leos can turn on each other any day and you'd never know it was coming.
I have two females I got from a pet store and all the leopard geckos were in one tank. They were all cohabitating well as far as I could see. They clearly are already comfortable together and they almost seem to cuddle. But one is much smaller and I’m concerned that like some say, they could “change their minds” and quickly become aggressive. I’m scared the smaller one being hurt would bother me a ton bc I’m very partial to her💕😂 anyone have advice?
Please separate them ASAP! “Cuddling” is actually a major sign of dominance. This is stressful for them and they will fight sooner or later. I could link many cases of cohabitation going wrong if necessary.
I have two tanks, one with one male and one female lg, and one with one male and two females all of similar morphs. They're all aged between 8-10 years. Haven't had any issues really ever, I'd just say make sure males aren't together and there's plenty of hides/space.
I have the tanks next to eachother with a small separator so they have the choice of looking at eachother or not. The baby is very interested in my large male lol they don’t seem stressed by eachother yet but I’ve got more watching to do.
I mean, I think it might be okay to experiment and if it doesn’t work out then just leave it alone. But they are found in groups in the wild, so I’m trying to keep an open mind. (no hate)
Here in germany its quite common to keep like a 1.2 trio of leopard geckos. But germany has very different standards of reptile housing. A 120x60x60cm with a custom background and multiple hides on each sides is the recommended setup.
Even with a large enclosure and multiple hides they should never be housed together. They are solitary animals and don’t benefit at all. It’s very stressful for them (signs of stress are often subtle and not always noticeable). I have seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other, even in a large enclosure. Not worth the risks at all
@@fionashepley478 actually they live in loose groups in the wild. Im not saying u should cohab them, but if u do u need a big enclosure and a second Setup in Case they dont get along.
Just wanted to Point out that if u attemp to house your Geckos together you really should use a big enclosure, not one thats considered big in the US.
Marvin Bange in the wild they mainly come together to breed. They sometimes live together because there are a finite number of hiding spots. They’re still a solitary species and don’t benefit from it. If they want to get away from each other they have miles of space to do so. In captivity they only have a few feet. If you have a second setup in case they fight, why not just use the second setup in the first place?
This is worth a read, an article written by someone who had two females together for a few years before they fought
www.google.ca/amp/s/aminoapps.com/c/reptiles/amp/item/cohabiting-leopard-geckos/D8Qg_QpxUNIM8BDlKwQwYGZQzgrJ3Q1WWV8
ikr....your gecko just licked its eyeball like 15,00000000000000000000 times in this video!!💜💙🦎🦎
So, im getting a leopard gecko, or GECKOS. If i buy them both as babies, could they get along well? I mean, they could turn on one another, but mainly would they get along?
I strongly recommend not cohabbing. They’re very territorial and sharing an enclosure is often very stressful for them. I have seen countless cases of geckos seeming fine for years, then snapping and seriously injuring or killing each other. Even after growing up together. Not worth the risks at all.