Masters Finals 2023 Pokémon World Championships TORD REKLEV VS VANCE KELLEY
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TCG 2023 Pokémon World Championships Finals
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The composure these players have on such a huge stage with so many people watching is amazing. Incredible game. Congrats to both of them.
Right? I can’t stop shaking when I’m at the pointy end of a match when it’s just a local weekly standard tournament. I don’t know how they can do it when the stakes are so high. It’s impressive
Ok I know these are the rules of the tournament and all but come ooonnn why do you have to put a timer on a finals match?? Those are the greatest players in the world and none of them are using stall strategies. Let them play the third game at its full, let us see them do their best till the end, it feels so disapointing to see the match end because one of them took 4 prices and the other 3. And I am not saying this because Tord lost, I just think both players deserve to play the last game until it is finished.
This was also my initial thoughts. But I realized they need to follow a strict schedule since VGC will come up next.
@@Superaalleexx that's true but I don't think anybody will complain about 10 or 15 minutes more. Some other matches were pretty short
Maybe they can rethink the schedule next year. Hate to see this sort of ending but they need to stay on schedule 😢
@@Superaalleexx Yeah I get why they have time in place generally speaking, although if you think about it, they have 75 minutes +3 additional turns & sudden death in finals right? But the thing is, once time is called, they played infinitely slower because they can to think of the best play, right? So logically speaking they spent so much time additionally after time was over (around 20ish minutes), it makes you wonder why there even is time in the finals in the first place haha.
They really need to rethink time rules for finals matches. I think we all wanted to see this match play through with such top caliber players.
Wow 6 mins of shuffling 😮 this was so intense i could barley stay in my seat
Fr I have ADHD and anger issues, also no patient so yeah this is relatable
I'm so proud of Vance, he's one of my friends and has come a long way. ❤🎉🎉
He doesn't deserve that win. I'm so upset he won because of sudden death
@@derekjeter3654 lmao yeah clearly you're a good judge of deservedness when you're talking shit in a youtube comment section. Truly you are the superior intellect.
@@derekjeter3654 copium
Vance did great
@@derekjeter3654 cope
Such a great finals, literally went down to the wire!
Thanks for uploading these Balthazar.
Sad for Tord obviously, but I can't deny that I think he kind of deserves to lose in this fashion his time play was on the outer border of sportsmanship on so many occasions - the bill always comes due
Amen
what did he do? sorry i am new to tcg :)
@@AlbinKottaram multiple examples of strategic Slowplay from him over the years
@@AlbinKottaram He has slowplayed, stacked and had terrible sportsmanship on multiple occasions
I may be missing something, but what was the point of switching the mew vmax twice? And I only saw one switch cart being played so how was he able to retreat two different times if Mew V had no energies? I only saw power tablet being played 1st then switch cart so I don't understand that part.
Mew VM used Cross Fusion Strike, which copies Genesect V's Techno Blast, however after using it that Pokemon can't attack on it's next turn. In order to reset the attack he has to retreat (Mew has no retreat cost) and then use Switch Cart to get his Mew VM with the energy cards back in the Active slot and then use Genesect's Techno Blast again
One of the best Pokémon TCG games I have seen. Both are amazing players.
Lost zone deck best deck, Comfey LOR, Dragonite V PR-SW and Colress's Experiment LOR.
The Lebron and Jordan of the pokemon work crazy
The way Tord flicked out that Boss’s Order in game 2 was just how do I say it, so boss 😏
for finales they should not put a limited time because at the end both won 1 round. Not sure the point of limiting the play time. Nevertheless both players played very well and clearly are the flagship of the pokemon TCG. Well done both!
As a new fan to the competitive TCG, I have to agree. The calibre of play here is so high and the lines of play that emerge are so compelling. While there is something cool about playing differently because you know you're on your last turn, it is unsatisfying to not see game point in a 1 and 1 match get played all the way through.
its for control, u could literally stall forever and never get a result :)
Very new to the game. Can anyone tell me what the shiny blue and purple round things that Vance put on Genesect are? Thank you
They look like the shiny flip coins you get from PKMN starter deck/boxes. They let everyone know Genesect has used its draw ability for that turn.
1:41:43 vance being so calm
I just started getting into Pokemon TCG but what happened at the last turn at 1:41:10? Why does the match end after he got 2 prize cards?
If the timer goes to zero there are 3 turns added, and after these three turns are over, if they cant finish the game, you check who has taken more prize cards which Vince has after he had knocked out the Zacian.
Sidenote: If both players have taken the same amount of prizes after the added 3 turns, a winner is decided in a sudden death game.
@@NikPkmn Thank you for providing some clarification!
I didnt realize people still did theee tournaments. I used to go when i was younger. That was 20 something years ago.
he should had played the colapse it limits they’re draw potential
I wonder whats going on in Vance 's mind after winning? He looks so sad.. or maybe exhausted? I would scream and jump around holding the shampionship title. Never thought id be watching any sort of card game, but this really is awesome as you can learn how to play these decks. Just got into tcg, so everything is a quite new to me.
13 year olds crying in twitch chat will never get old
Poor tord was so heart broken he couldn't get his world crown and to make it worse they put him up on stage for the award ceremony after that devastating defeat
Tord won if not the dumb rule of sudden death. Tord in reality won.
@@derekjeter3654 Tord himself won top 8 in time so?
@@dankpepe8741Sssh, don't tell them🤫
Don't tell them that if Tord wins the first game, he usually stalls the living hell out of the second and rarely gets punished for slowplaying just because he's too famous to get an adverse judge call 🤫
mew vmax again showing how broken it is. they already printed 3 direct counters (mightyena, drapion, spiritomb) and it's still good enough to win the biggest pokemon tcg tournament of the year. the only thing that can stop it is rotation.
In my opinion, its just like Pikachu&zekrom gx, too strong even countered. Only rotation was enough to remove it from standart.
@@matusfunfalek6642 yeah i guess i would say there's comparisons but looking at it from a game design perspective, its got so much more to offer than pikarom. the fusion strike toolbox nature of the deck allowing you to use several attacks with 1 mon that has 310 hp and can attack for 1 attachment and KO anything in the format and draw as many cards as it wants. In mews early days, it was obviously the BDIF being the flagship deck of fusion strike but it went further than that. There was literally not a single deck in the entire format that you could build that had a win % above .500 against mew. Dark decks aren't an issue because mew outpaces everything. It's a consistency monster. you might as well start the game 4 prizes to 6 with how quick it gets 2 prize KOs. plus its got a shred attack and a 1 prizer that can hit for 360dmg on turn 2 if it really wanted to. fusion strike was everything i hate about the tcg. a prebuilt broken deck designed to dominate. in conclusion, they just gave mew too much in it's kit.
Wanted to watch its been so long but I can't read the card effects :(
Zacian V is always the weak part of this Garde deck. Always losing because the op Boss Orders the Zacian xd
Mew 😍
@@sputacus2864spiritomb
What do they win ? Is there a prize?
Was really hoping Vance wouldn't win cause now my friend is gonna be preaching about mew for the next few weeks
Time to start packing those Spiritomb
Much like chess, at this high level of play time is a factor of the game and skill is required to manage it.
I like that
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Congratulations to both! Very exciting games. Way to go vance. Looking forward to playing the 2023 world championship decks
Me too! The 2022 ones are so fun!
As a new fan make the finals not have a time limit please
Yooo is the commentator Jack Patillo??
1:27:53 It looks like 210 raw damage from Zacian... Why didn't Oricorio protect Genesect from the KO?
Because Genesect has 190. Oricorio only protects 20 damage so it is still a KO.
@@jeremyarcus-goldberg9543 Oops! I thought it was 210. The live-updating hp on tcg live confused me, I guess.
Thanks!
@@Gna-rn7zx TCG Live does a bunch of things that end making the game more confusing for me. Sometimes I can't read part of a card to find out what my attack options are!
I don’t understand how Vance won? There is no time and toes did the last turn and he had less prize card, why did Vance had another turn?
For the last turns of the game, they do a turn based system. It's starts with turn 0, turn 1, turn 2, turn 3. Vance won on turn 3 because he had more prizes taken during the turn clock.
Cause tcg time ruling is dumb. Cannot implement game clock instead both player share the same time and there is a 3 turn final countdown
@@lumwenkang6806If there was a game clock Tord would have lost during G2, he plays slow and never gets a warning for it
Dude Vance had a shitty start for mew/genesect, but he pulled out a win anyways so good for him.
How did the mew win just asking p?
Are they teammates because they are both wearing the same shirt or is everyone in the tournament wearing those shirts?
Gotta say… having the hosts right next to the players as they talk about them is a little awkward 😂😂❤️
I really hope that tord wins
Spoiler he doesn't.
Tord won in my mind. This guy won for a dumb rule
@@derekjeter3654 rules exist for a reason also accept it and hope he can win next year
@@derekjeter3654 Tell Tord to play faster next time.
@@pjcgaming9548 bruh are you kidding...Vance played slow too. With that much on the line who wouldn't. Get rid of a timer for finals
Do we really have to shuffle for so long?
Vance is a graceful victor
1:01:43 why did he took 3 prices if he killed one pokemon??
Vmax Rules When Pokemon knock out opponent take 3 prize
I love pokemon but I never learned the card game and have absolutely no idea
You should, it’s easy to understand.
Why did Tord cut his own deck at 10:15 after his opponent shuffled and presented? I don’t play Pokémon TCG but I play many others and surely that’s not okay after your opponent randomises?
If your opponent shuffles your deck instead of cutting, you're allowed to cut it in the pokemon tcg.
Final cut means just that - final CUT, not final shuffle. It's the best rule to prevent either player from stacking either their own or their opponent's deck.
After you shuffle your deck, you have to present it to the opponent.
If they cut it, that's the end.
If they shuffle it, you get to cut it, and that's the end.
If you had to accept your opponent shuffling your deck without a cut, they could easily see a bad card and put it on top of your deck, or see a good card and put it on the bottom.
Bro we gotta not go to time in the finals of worlds… Tord wins if the game finishes
Ikr
Tord would hav ez won if it wasn’t for thme
Wish the commentators had more to say about the players. There was over 12 hours to prepare content for this match. There should have been interviews with the caster to help add to the color commentary for this final match.
Devestating that it came down to time, I was rooting for Tord this time
Both deck’s that get wreck by Darkrai.
I have no idea whats going on 😂
This just poped up on my recommendation, why? Im not a Nerd. 😅
SPOILER
Mew VMAX proves again to be an absolute power house yet again. Expect to see more of them in ranked mode. The draw power is just insane. Get your drapion and your spiritomb ready.
I mean I beat mew EVERY SINGLE TIME. I use drapion all the time and it's so good when I get paired against that deck because I just feel good I'm gonna get a free dub😂
@@derekjeter3654there are a lot of them online so that definitely makes sense but in tournament I don't think there are as many so it's kind of like a dead card unless you're a turbo lost box
@@derekjeter3654 the reason why mew won was because players didn't respect mew as much as before not many of them played drapion v
Feel like Tord didnt know whole desk of cards.. Vance was master of his desk.. way he played first and last round was super smart
Vencia 100 como eu só para cumprir horário 🙄
The amount of sheep trying to diminish Vance’s win. Tord will never notice you weirdos no matter how much you gas him up on social media. Geesh it’s cringe how people act in the Pokemon community.
Yeah, I mean Vance played exceptionally well, especially in the face of pressure and opponent - nobody should ever discredit that because they're a fan of the other player. I was personally rooting for Tord because I've known him for so long & seen the long-term success, seeing him come so close to winning EUIC and just falling short to see it happen again in time (which of course, is nobodies fault both players have to think and have to make plays etc) was a sad one. But without a doubt Vance is deserving and did a great job to get from Day 1 to get there!
@@Scytheology I respect that! Of course cheer for your buddies and hope for their success, it’s just the people basically saying Vance’s win wasn’t deserved. I don’t know the person personally but to try and take away a valid win from someone at the world championship is pretty wack. Tord is a great player and it was close. Giving respect to both players is what people should be doing.
100% @@spookyvampyre
@@spookyvampyreyou are just a poor little man who never are and never will be as cool as tord. Touch grass dude and learn to be cool like tord
@@Scytheologyofc Vance wins was not clean. He won because the rule of the dumb sudden death. If they play without that rule tord would have won clearly. Tord was robbed but I feel good because I know tord won
I really want to see TPC/Nintendo start paying $1,000,000 to each World Champion. They clearly have the money to do so and being the best should make it so you never have to worry about a thing for the rest of your life.
Yeah, it's insane how little prize money they get compared to other TCGs.
What other TCGs outside of MTG, exactly? It's not like Konami or Bandai rewards any prize money at all.
@@Lox4013 Flesh and Blood?
@@WorldofBlub meanwhile Yugioh gets $0 LOL
@@AngryAyrab Rip 😂
Under rules tord lost like other times he won bcs them . but lets be honest, the rules are a joke , Gardevoir pov wins that ez .
Doesnt matter wat u do against mew , he always come back lol , the amount of consistency genesects give u its insane , they should nerf engines in general , lost box garde and mew are to strong
Could he be anymore enthusiastic 😆😆
Hey I know that guy
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Glad Vance won 🥇 USA! And also get off tords nuts he plays so slow and he got lucky😊
Tord has to win hes the goat
I have no clue what the hell is happening.😂
Tord's hand cam is triggering
Vance didnt even smiled at the end wtf?
vance winning: "😐😐😐" lol
Fr tho. I’m so confused.
Ofc tord had to win but ofc the rules of this game had to give the win to the fastest deck
vance won fairly 👏♥️ great game tho
@@tm2035 he didn't win. Sudden death rules win
@@derekjeter3654 yeah, and for that he won
So disappointed to see Mew Fusion Strike win yet again. And that it is the Gard deck that was opposing it. I despise both of these decks
I have been collecting Pokemon cards for a while…..no clue what the hell is going on!!!! Lol
LMAO🤣🤣🤣
Yugioh commentators are better at describing plays than these guys they aren't really explaing the gameplay card by card
It s probably because it s the world championship, in other tournament we have some other casters that really describes the effect of the cards, here they are describing the gameplan so it s little bit better for average players
The casters are simps for tord
They need a rule that adds 10 minutes if the games goes to round 3
Can someone explain how Vance won? There was still 2 prize cards to be won. Or did Tord concede?? These commentators talk alot but dont explain whats happening.!!
The problem was the time was zero so that means after three turns they go to sudden death and the person who takes more prizes win. Tord could have won but this Vance guy found the ONLY COPY of path to the peak and the ONLY COPY of iono at the PERFECT TIME and he messed up his hand and Tord unfortunately could not find stadium nor lost vacuums and in top of that he had 2 RALTS in the prizes so many things had to happen so tord lose and indeed they happened but thats how this game works
@@derekjeter3654 rules are rules also they both play so slow so that why they have a timer
@@derekjeter3654 ranting about the most consistent deck is wack
This is ridiculous and slow and I have no idea what is happening.. I could never play this card game
Isnt Tord known for being a slow player, on purpose
Dude you are actually right. Tord could have definitely won if he play faster
He for sure could have won. Hopefully he changes up how he plays a little.
He plays like a coward
Yes, most of his 50 min BO3s don't even finish 2 games. Yet he's never given warnings for slow play
Tord never shuffle the cards 🤣🤌
There's no practical need to shuffle after every search. You shuffle after your last search of the turn, or before deck randomization would matter (drawing cards, placing cards at the bottom, etc.) That's just basic tournament etiquette in every TCG. If you were to insist on shuffling after every search, your opponent would correctly call a judge on you for slow playing.
Wth is happening?
Right.. I’m trying to learn so I can play with my kid.. but god damn I’m not getting it
first (:
mew is broken
Bro can this dude not smile and be happy jezus christ looking like his puppy died
Hey like join pokemon tournament beat kids pokemon tournament oh yeah I am ready I am battle kids
It Is so sad you cannot smile. Why They so serious when each got a win
Are you kidding? Biggest stage of Pokemon TCG and they can't just forget the timer...let them finish it out. Completely anticlimatic...
slow play.
tord should have been given penalty cuz of his slow play.
He is continuity making actions. You have no idea what your talking about. 😅
Nah you just impatient. The deck takes a lot of thinking and he never stopped making actions.
If they were consistent they would've given a warning at least. Someone a couple rounds earlier got a 2 prize penalty and was playing faster than Tord. Forgot his name, but it lost him the match.
@@AstoundLikesWoW no. He had a break of not doing anything for like 20 seconds. Tord wasn't having breaks of actions like that.
Tord was robbed. This guy won cuz of the dumb sudden death ruling
Boring
2 gays playing cards
nerds
In reality Tord won. He could have koed mew v max for the last 3 prizes but the game didn't finish because of the time. So Tord really was the one who won but rules are messed up. Tord had so many ways to win: 1) if first game he would have found the triple energy he would have koed mew. 2) in the second game if the Vance dude would have not found the ONLY COPY of path to the peak and the ONLY COPY of iono at the PERFECT TIME tord had game in hand. Also if tord would have found the stadium after iono or the lost vacuums he would have won. 3) tord would have won if he wouldn't prized 2 RALTS. 4) if tord would have teched against mew with spiritomb he would have won. 5) in the first game if he wouldn't discarded that lost vaccum. Omg so many ways tord would have won but Nooooooo the sudden death ruling stole tord victory
In reality, you know the one we live in Tord lost lol move on
again no one expected to go against mew so i believe in his mind if would had been a waste of space in other match ups
or you know, tord could just have played a little faster
Man told I feel for you
Guaru teed nobody wants Vance to win. Sucks
I did. I called it that new would win worlds. Tord has made his mark already so I went with the underdog. I originally wanted Azul to take the whole thing
Mew is the most boring, one set deck in format. Honestly proof that spiritomb is not that good of an answer to mew. Violence is the answer, bring a Drapion V