Why I fell for Wim Hof and Andrew Huberman
Вставка
- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- I needed to do a lot of soul searching to record this video.
#hubermanlab #wimhof #breathwork #icebath
Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @sgcarney
Get Exclusive Updates on Patreon:
/ sgcarney
Substack
sgcarney.subst...
Scott Carney Investigates Podcast
www.scottcarne...
UA-cam / @sgcarney
Books:
The Wedge
www.scottcarne...
What Doesn't Kill Us
www.scottcarne...
The Enlightenment Trap
www.scottcarne...
The Vortex
www.scottcarne...
The Red Market
www.scottcarne...
Listen to the Scott Carney Investigates Podcast on:
UA-cam
• Scott Carney Investigates
Apple:
podcasts.apple...
Spotify:
open.spotify.c...
Anchor:
spotifyanchor-...
Social Media:
Instagram / sgcarney
Facebook / scottcarneyauthor
Twitter / sgcarney
Bluesky staging.bsky.a...
©PokeyBear LLC (2023)
![[UA] Eternal Fire проти NAVI | EPL Season 20 Malta](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/chvlsDygrZM/mqdefault.jpg)
Get Early Access on Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=82207370
Substack: sgcarney.substack.com/
There's no way I'll ever read your books.
@@digital_intel Are the books about Wim Hof? It is not a rhetorical question, I dont know.
When Huberman said you can instantly change your life by moving your eyes laterally I tried it and he was right, I've been side eyeing him and all of these grifters since.
Lol...thats funny, Thanks
This side to side eye movement is called EMDR therapy. It is an approved therapy at my work.
emdr is real but yeah it definitely doesn’t work for everyone (but this comment is quite funny regardless)
My approach to people like Wim and Huberman is that they do offer useful information, but you can't just take them at their word. I have done the breathing and the cold showers, and I certainly get a nice temporary boost from them (physically and mentally). I do not expect them to do anything more than that. I have no interest in doing wacky stuff that takes a bunch of time and energy. I won't be seeking out mountain streams to sit in. I did 3 rounds of wim hof breathing yesterday. I felt more calm and relaxed afterward (for a few minutes anyway). I don't want skepticism to keep me from trying new things. If a benefit is claimed, I say "hmm. I would like that benefit. Maybe i will give it a try for a little while and see what happens". I track the activity, along with what my initial expectations are. If they aren't met, then I can at least say I tried. I can take what I learn and move on. The activity is free. It only takes my time, and not too much of it. I count it as meditation, as well. You are kind of forced to be in the moment when doing it, and that is a good thing. So far in life, I have found that there has been no 'magic pill' that can transform my life. Sad, but true.
@@stevemarsden4472 excellent way to approach new info. I think we need to be careful not to play into people’s natural desire to force things into the good or bad buckets.
The comments are full of people being dualistic. The side eye comment is perfect example. Totally missing the point. In every situation we have the opportunity to use our billions of neurons to tease out the truth from falsehoods.
@@timothyharrison i agree, but the side eye coment is funny. I can also see flaws everywhere… imagine Fauci said “i represent the science” backed by “safe and effective” pharma drugs friends… maybe because the “science” has been transformed in a kind of cult then people search other info fountain …
The reason breath holding provides temporary relief from anxiety is due to the intense feeling of anxiety that is brought on by the very exercise of breath holding. The chemical response within the amygdala that generates the anxiety is lessened afterward due to the chemical fatigue in that particular structure and this gives one a temporary lessening of the baseline anxiety.
@@carlharmeling512 ok thanks
Thank you for this Scott. I began listening to Huberman Lab in Nov 2021, and have listened to nearly every episode. I have taken a lot from them, however as the years progressed and Huberman's fame grew I have become uneasy with the direction this podcast is going in. Before I get to that, there are a few things that always bothered me about him, which I mention here because I have not come across others saying these things and they are worth thinking about now, given all the recent goings on:
-His exceptionalism is everywhere! If you start listening for it you will hear it all over his show. Some are silly things along the lines of (throughout I am paraphrasing) 'I love blueberries more than anybody'. But many are darker: 'A thing nobody gets is....', 'what people don't understand', 'What nobody realizes is...' etc. Why are you assuming your listeners are so uneducated? Why do you think you are the only holder of knowledge? 'When I studied, I would read the text, then underline it, and highlight it, I mean I really studied hard'. Hello? This is not exceptional, this is how anyone with a serious academic mindset studies. And my personal favorite 'I really hate bug bites, I mean I really hate them.' No kidding!
Why does this matter? Because he seems to be going through life thinking that he is living on some higher plane than the rest of us, where his likes and dislikes are greater, more telling, more meaningful than ours, and his knowledge is above others. There is moral fallout from this.
-He frequently will talk about people "dissolving in a puddle of their own tears". He seems obsessed with this idea of weakness, can't hide his disdain for it. But why? Why perseverate on "weakness"? Why keep bringing it up? We are all human, we all have strengths and weaknesses, good moments and bad, why is he so hung up on this concept? I suspect it's a outgrowth of his exceptionalism. He's up here and the losers are dissolving into puddles of their own tears down below. Maybe he needs to learn that having a good cry can be therapeutic, and that tears are not always a sign of weakness or something to fear.
-He makes a lot of faux-contrite statements such as (again, I'm paraphrasing): 'Lord knows I'm not perfect', 'I have many flaws'. He talks about praying to God to be better. [Side note: He's been bringing God up a lot more in recent podcasts, that's part of the directional shift of his content.] Knowing what we know now, the self-deprecation seems highly manipulative. Allowing your partner(s) to think you are monogamous, and thus getting to have unprotected sex with them and others is pure evil. I came of age in the time of HIV/AIDS. Perhaps his younger fans don't understand how truly reprehensible his actions are. You are playing with people's lives. To say things like 'gee shucks I've got flaws' is a clever way to disarm the listener. We are sympathetic to someone who admits to flaws. We naively assume, because of his honesty, that he his speaking about the kind of garden-variety flaws that we all have, not that he is grossly lying and manipulating people and playing with their lives. I do not know a single woman who would have unsafe sex with her partner if she knew they were not monogamous. Maybe I'm showing my age (52), but that's just a hard no.
-Huberman has an unsettling view of women and romantic relationships that he shares with his great friend Lex Fridman. They often wax on about finding love, how they want to start families. Lex will go on about trust being all important. They idealize love, and the perfect woman, in a manner that a) explains why they have not yet created families of their own and b) comes across as misogynist. Stop seeing women as "the other", stop fantasizing about some teenage bro idea of being in a relationship. Start seeing individual women as the people that they are (human, real, wonderful and flawed- all of us) and then perhaps you may find real love. And stop being so paranoid about trust!!! Then again, if you are a serial cheater, maybe you think everyone else lies. That must be a hard way to go through life. Now I'm digressing.
As for the direction Huberman Lab has been going in. You talk about this in this video, so I won't go long here. Just wanted to say that as his popularity grew I watched him veering further away from science and more into the toxic Bro podcast space. All those navy seals and ultra-marathoners. Maybe he's just following the money, but he's a fool if he thinks we don't notice. He is increasingly grasping at straws, trying to get his guests to formulate "protocols" out of their research. I understand the appeal of codifying things, it can give us something to follow that may be beneficial. But to my mind he is trying harder and harder to package bunk as "science" to keep it on brand, when it clearly is not.
-And finally, could he, Lex, et al please stop thinking that because they are experts in one area it makes them qualified to aver on everything. Listen to Lex's latest interview with Elon Musk if you want an example of how dangerous and ridiculous this can get. Elon gets talking about China's history at one point; it's all said with assurance but he's just flat-out wrong about the facts. It goes back to the exceptionalism: they are like little kids who think their success in one area has magically made them all-knowing and given them the right to expound on all things, and that's dangerous and should be called out.
Thank you for reading.
Go touch some grass
I’m shocked @ ur honesty & authenticity. Thank u … I got both those awareness around both of these people…after being mesmerized by their genius slickness & all those they would enroll. Very Landmark _ish! & smooth smokescreens…
@@yezsir715 grow up
Truth! The other thing that really bugs me now is all the name dropping. I have worked in the entertainment industry (in LA) since the early 90s and see this type of person all the time 👀. He’s the dude that shows up at a concert and when his backstage passes aren’t there says, “do you know who I am?”
Someone else said it best when they said, why isn’t his narrative, son of Stanford professor becomes Stanford professor? Instead it’s all about how his mother was a wreck after his parent’s divorce. Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t you have a dad too, dude?
Rant over… you nailed it!
I really agree with your last paragraph. There is too much of that people who "know everything" I see others doing the same.
I just tried to watch an interview on "Diary of a CEO" with Wim Hof about a week ago and I just couldn't make it to the end.
He was yelling his ideas at the audience/interviewer. The basis of his theories are not rational and he screams (literally) lack of objectivity in many statements he makes. He's definitely of a different mentality so what may have worked in his unconventional life, is not a recipe for the average well-adjusted human.
Thanks for having the humility to reverse direction Scott. That's a sign of a true scientific mind!
Same here. Wim hoff makes me nauseous
Stop idolizing these people and you won’t be disappointed. They’re human. Just like all of us. Nobody is perfect. We all have things in our lives that we aren’t happy about. We all make mistakes. We all have done things we would be mortified if the public knew. If you don’t, you’re lying.
Those are all fair observations.
Most adult men don't "idolize" another man. Many of us including the video poster have gotten benefits from huberman's podcasts. no one cares what he does in his private life. it should not take away from his science. this character assassination is irrelevant to his work. we don't care about what he does or doesn't do with women. it's his life and he isn't breaking the law. I will however forever be greatful to huberman for introducing me to cold plunge/sauna and the methodologies and timing on how to use for maximal benefit.
I was Asked to Be Civil And Respectful in this comment.
So I was asked not to be honest about a disgrace of a human being 😅
@@Maverick-jn9ur his "science" is sketchy at best, and yes what he does in his private life does matter, I guess you are one of those ppl supporting P. Diddy or whaever his name nowadays is no matter what he does privately?
Unfortunately, idolizing people is also human.
Scott, I have commented on some of your posts with exactly this. I don’t say this to pat myself on the back. I am saying this because what you yourself are doing is fueling that feedback loop. Where is your cut off when your own success requires you to continue to push the narrative - the algorithm is going to require it at some point.
The pattern of this medium driven phenomena has caused me to question / be sceptical of everyone who has success in the health and wellness space, but also the growing subset of ‘purist scientists’ (for lack of better term) who are gaining momentum with their pseudo moralistic messaging. Make no mistake about it, if you and Dr. Love do not acknowledge you are capitalizing on the current appetite the public has to hammer down on those trapped in the pattern you describe in this video, then you will be those very same people when the algorithm requires you aren’t 100% true to yourself either. You are not infallible.
I’m a huge skeptic and still fell for Huberman. It was the Stanford pedigree, his seemingly humble nature, his seeming focus on and dedication to real science. He never brags about himself, he doesn’t make it all about him, he listens well to his guests. He has a lot of self-awareness and thus was able to create this humble, science-focused character.
After a while I started noticing that his podcasts were getting way too long, he was getting really deep in the weeds of stuff outside his expertise, and that all these protocols were impossible to follow all at once. Some of the stuff he was saying just sounded too far-fetched. It was just too much, and that’s when I started to wonder about him. That and his friendship with Lex Fridman was a huge red flag. Then he went on Jordan Peterson’s podcast - another huge red flag. I’ve been done with him for a year and in that year heard rumblings of his shoddy science and tendency to exaggerate.
I was really shocked by the article. I figured he was a bit off but I never would have imagined all this.
I guess even the biggest skeptics are susceptible to these people who are expert manipulators. Have compassion for yourself, Scott.
thanks
What's wrong with Lex Fridman?
@@minahana1112 Everything
@@SuperFilmregisseur well can you be more specific? I'm really curious
@@minahana1112 actually I can't. You won
Love this channel - real journalism: The world is a complicated place.
Keep TRUTHING, Sir!!
❤
Cold exposure and WH breathing technique has worked wonders for me.
that doesn't mean that huberman and WH didn't turn into charlatans who talk authoritatively about topics they are completely uneducated about.
The point being made here was that that was fine, and both Hof and Huberman would have been fine if they'd stayed modestly and realistically in their lanes, but they have careers and profiles to maintain and that's resulted in more extravagant claims and pronouncements outside their expertise.
Like Jordan Peterson, , I like Huberman when he stays in his lane. The problem is the need to produce content, both to stay relevant and for profit, which dilutes the product. I don't need 2-3 hours of Hubeman a week...there's way to much overlap and redundancy.
As someone who's studied psychology.. I'm not sure JP has a lane. Maybe very very specifically Jung. Freud and Jung aren't part of psychology anymore, just its history. And I've heard Jung scholars say he gets Jung wrong.
He says random things about mental health and addiction which are not based in evidence or in any hypothesis from modern psychology. He says some stuff from psych 101 that's correct, but peppers it with random opinions and doesn't tell you when he's veering into unfounded stuff
@@therabbithat Surely you aren’t discrediting his tenure as a professor? That would reflect more poorly in his employer at the time than on him. Maybe he wasn’t the best psyche prof out there, but he was a professional with the appropriate credentials. Let’s not be dismissive of that. Since then he’s been given a platform to express his opinion on a wide range of things. Who wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to monetize their opinions? I don’t take his opinions as gospel, but I surely do consider them. Why not? He’s intelligent, educated and experienced. Doesn’t mean he’s always right, but at least he’s not afraid to put it out there.
…and that’s not mentioning his vast experience as a clinician.
I agree, the pressure to constantly be popular drives these guys into a potentially dark space. I sometimes watch Jordan Peterson and he is also now touted as a knower of all things, he is a great guy but he is dragged in to talk about everything. But I feel Peterson has great value, Huberman too, I quite like his stuff but he pops up everywhere an d I began to wonder why he seemed to be everywhere.
They are both being paid VERY WELL by VERY SPECIFIC BILLIONAIRES, to spread propaganda and misinformation.
'It's not that I loved Huberman less, it's that I loved truth more.'
That's oddly sweet.
@@charlesjohnson8106 Where have I heard the parallel to that statement before?
Rough times, excellent honesty, well articulated. thank you.
I really appreciate when someone can admit when they’ve made poor judgements. For me, it shows the true measure of a man if he can say that his opinion has grown and changed and my loyalty was misguided. It shows self reflection and personal growth and I can’t see how anyone could fault that. Great work Scott!
Thank you for your honesty! Really appreciated. I agree that taking sponsorships and promoting products is a conflict of interest. Very cool that you choose to make your income on social media through your books.
Scott. Do you still do the wim hof method why or why not?
I hadn’t done it but one thing I stumbled across looking at stuff on tinnitus were a whole slew of people whose tinnitus had come from doing win hof breathing. So I decided to never do it because I already have tinnitus. Just consider that if you do the breathing. Hope that’s helpful.
I was in on it back in 2014, early adopter. But the weird thing was, I could never graduate very far with the cold exposure times (but got great benefits from the breathing and ending all showers on cold). Every single time I slowwwly tried with actual cold dips, I’d get super sick. Like, worst flu of your life sick. So, I finally had to let it go. I was heavily into looking for tips on the wim Facebook group, and most definitely can confirm what the other person here said…lots of people reported either worsening tinnitus, or actually getting it from starting whm. Finally heard enough warnings too about those who are hypothyroid should not do the cold training (and that was me too), that I actually began to worry I’d do myself harm if I kept trying. So, breathing great. Cold, only for some, and for others it truly aggravated a condition. And in the end, the weirdo cult like fighting on the Facebook group during Covid meant I couldn’t ditch it fast enough!
@@tnijoo5109 yeah, it's really strange, but for some reason holding your breath a long time gets your ears to start ringing. I noticed it several times. I wonder if people who developed eternal tinnitus just did way beyond the 3 or 4 rounds typical in WHM. I know they do prolonged breathwork during the in-person retreats with Wim, but I personally get bored after 15-20 minutes. I'm not going to keep doing breathwork for an hour to get some sort of effect somewhat similar to LSD. I already did plenty of LSD and got bored of it.
Scott, utmost respect for you and your work #realjournalism.
You deserve a lot more credit than your followers reflect here.
Keep at it, the truth ALWAYS prevails. 👍🏼
I appreciate that!
So glad to hear that someone else was thinking along similar lines. I initially listened to him because of his Stanford pedigree, his down to earth nature and the fact that he was talking about interesting subjects in a knowledgeable way but gradually fell out of love with him when he started pontificating at great length about subjects he wasn’t an expert in, (2 or 3 hours’ worth - it really sounded like bamboozling, not science communication!) and those embarrassing adverts really put me off. Stopped listening to him last year and was a bit mystified that the longer the videos, the more people seemed to like him.
Wow, didn't realize the AG1 kick backs were that big for Andrew. That means lex Friedman and joe Rogan are printing money like there's no tomorrow as well. I know half the cost of the bag is money for the influencer, but didn't realize that it resulted in that many bags sold. Holy cow. You can then credibly look at the entire huberman podcast as a way to promote AG1.
Yes, indeed.
@@sgcarney I'd be the biggest shit peddler if a green power company paid 20 million a year, not gonna lie there. I'd claim it makes you immortal and open portals to quantic worlds and other dimensions. So he's quite measured still :D
The Wim Hof method dramatically altered the course of my life, for the better. I hardly ever get sick (whereas I used to get colds and flus constantly), I sleep extraordinarily well, and have bundles of energy, and much, much lower stress. Further, it's led to me doing a deep dive into more extensive, time-honoured breathwork, and that too has positively changed my life. Popularising breathwork has been a huge gift to the world - Wim is a very eccentric person, but not a bad person. I don't like that you out him for having low periods in his life - that feels very, very harsh, and exploitative. I've also implemented many positive changes as a result of listening to Andrew Huberman - he has extraordinary levels of knowledge, wisdom and experience, and I couldn't give two hoots that he gets a cut of declared sales a green powder concoction. Scott do you think you might go after the really, really bad guys? Folk who wreck the environment. Folk who deforest, who breed, contain, torture and kill billions of animals. Individuals, sure, but mostly industries that result in destruction of the planet and its living beings, writ large. This whole business model of befriending folk, making profit from those friendships on the way up, then defriending them and profiting from that on the way down - it's soulless and destructive, rather than soulful and constructive, IMHO. It is it's own form of profiteering and manipulation. I think you're a good fella Scott - and I think you can do much, much better than this.
@@Berretotube just want to say that I understand why you want to defend people who have helped your life. But, speaking from the experience of having really believed in a guru and been burned by it, it IS important to go after personalities that become “larger than life” because they end up hurting people. If Wim Hof was being responsible and honest about the misrepresentation of water mixed with hyperventilating and how it has led to DEATHS, this would be a non-issue. But he is NOT being responsible. He is doing the opposite. So this type of journalism is SAVING LIVES. Don’t you think that is important?
Don't pay attention to individuals, pay attention to the information they offer and whether or not it is valid or useful based on your own judgement. Keep your sources of information broad and don't take anyone seriously. There's a high likelihood they are wrong, lying or exaggeration their expertise. Don't over commit your resources (time, money and energy) to any particular individual or they will inevitably gain control of you.
Well said. This one comment is way better than this whole video. He could have saved himself the time.
@@darbrad3952 But that's not his point, his point is to use their names, criticize them and gain clicks.
@@Seany06as he should. He was one of the journalist who legitimised them.
@@canesugar911 This guy has no bearing on whether they are legit or not. He's clearly got a vendetta against Huberman which is pretty sad.
@@Seany06 he was one of the journalist who brought them to the mainstream and an early adopter of their practices. A vendetta? Why?
Use your brain and stop being a Stan.
This is a good question Scott…
In regards to WH and Hooberman or whoever else I certainly don’t think that the baby should be thrown out with the bath water (it doesn’t seem to me you’re saying that either) however, we should be aware that the water is dirty and that the baby needs a check up and possibly antibiotics. Reporting on these things is important.
Thank you for your vulnerability and for your work. I first learned from you that hyperventilation and cold plunge don’t belong together. Lots of my WH friends weren’t aware of the danger either despite having done WH courses. Maybe nothing would’ve happened but maybe you saved lives, who knows. Thanks for your efforts, I can’t imagine what it takes to speak up publicly about wrongdoings of famous people with guru status (who you once endorsed on top of it all). It’s refreshing to see people with integrity in this era of moral relativism.
Now I feel sorry for the baby 😢
I think science is the baby and people like Huberman who misrepresent it and make unfounded claims for profit are the bathwater.
I would feel bad for him if not for the fact qualified people have been politely fact checking him for years and he ignores them and never corrects his many many errors.
Wim Hof himself even tells you to not do the breathing method when you're going to do cold exposure in the tank... like everybody knows the risk of passing out, so why would everyone talk about it as if he's promoting doing both of the same time...
@@dickdilligaf9240 no he doesn’t. Maybe in his latest interviews, I don’t know but wherever I listened to him he never once mentioned it. On one podcast the podcaster (I don’t remember who, I listened to so many with WH) said they do hyperventilating before going into water bc it feels easier to handle freezing water and he didn’t say that there’s anything wrong with it. I had his app where I did intro course where you increase cold exposure little by little and nothing about shallow water black out was mentioned there. Obviously it’s not common knowledge if so many people have died of it. I certainly didn’t know and I’m not a dummy. I’m not saying that WH method doesn’t work nor am I saying that WH is a bad man but informing practitioners about dangers is certainly not what Wim was doing. If he’s more careful now, awesome.
I don't really like the framing of them being "forced by the algorithm." They're "forced" if they are more concerned with fame and attention than they are about truth and reality.
That's also true.
appreciate your candor. Getting harder everyday knowing what is true.
Thank you for sharing vulnerably, for honesty and integrity! Those are the most valued things.
I’m so glad you’re talking about this! I’ve fallen for both of them, unfortunately.
Re your comments on friendship: real friends behave like friends, and we get to choose our friends - we continue to choose them based on their behaviour, actions, values. We have every right - and are correct - to rescind our friendship if a person shows themselves to be not a good person, treats us badly or treats others badly, and is unrepentant. Friendship IS conditional. It's about our integrity to ourselves as well as to others.
exactly.
20 million ? 🤯
Thats some incentive for huber.
Appreciate your ethics and transparency
Not many people are willing to admit their mistakes in public in the way you just did. I Much respect to you.
Thanks for being here.
I agree! That's the mark of being a good journalist. Glad your voice is out there
Do you still do breathing techniques and cold baths/showers at all? Its helped me for a year, but I'm unsure of long term things. It helps me with anxiety and overthinking.
Yea. Still do all the time.
@@sgcarney Thank you for the response. I really appreciate it.
People want if not gurus and masters, then authorities. It's like putting face on a "magic pill ". Distill what works and move on without expecting humans to be perfect. In Wims case I would say showing him to be himself would have been better strategy, showing that even normal (flawed and suffering) person can get a control of himself.
Thank you for having the courage to share what you've learned painful experiences. I appreciate your commitment to journalistic integrity and ethics. I do not have money, but I always engage, comment, share, etc!
I just added a link to this vid to a blog post I wrote yesterday about times I've been fooled--even though I'm an educator who teaches critical thinking/rhetoric!
And let me reiterate: Zelph on the Shelf (exMormon commentary/humor) yters reacted to the fall of AH as his fans the other day. You can watch Tanner's POV shift and his disappointment grow as the veil is lifted. Like you, he rejects the bro code for truth. I'd love to see a collab between your 2 channels!
Be well. Thanks for your service to The People.
thanks for being here.
Also people are adults Scott-when you find that perfect guru who is never wrong and adults who never make bad decisions, let us know !!
Scotts next book: “Click-bait videos that signal virtue while throwing your friends under the bus” 😅
I appreciate your commitment to honesty and having an open mind!
Thanks for showing up here.
@@sgcarney 👍🏻 I’m in a similar place, teaching health practices that are often used to trick the public. It’s why I teach for free, to avoid those conflicts that you mentioned! There’s a treasure here, if you disentangle it from the BS!!
🙏 keep going brother!
Oh, that's such an interesting and relevant topic! And I highly respect you to talk about it, for sharing your truth and sensing what are the right consequences for you to take. Thank you so much for it! I can imagine how hard it might be to realize that one fell for someone who lost their way due too much popularity, expectations, money and so on.
Looking at myself, I know how wonderful it was for me to find Ann Weiser Cornell and Inner Relationship Focusing and have this feeling of... finally finding the answers I was so desperately looking for... And to me, it's still the real thing, because I spent so much time with Ann and she's... real. And it's a really powerful method...
And still... looking up to her as an idol, doesn't feel like.a healthy thing to do for me and it's not fair to her, either. And while practicing Focusing changed my life and still does and I love to share and teach it... I don't want to people blindly believe in it. Just because it's working for me and the people I know in this community doesn't mean it works for everyone. And that's okay. It doesn't matter if you do Focusing, journalling, talking to a very good friend, go to therapy or don't even emotional self-care at all, as long as it's what you consciously choose to do.
And still, this seams to be what many people are looking for. Something to believe in. A god, a famous scientist, an idol, a method of any form... maybe because it makes us feel safe and giving us a sense of clarity in a scary and confusing world...
No wonder...
What just came while I was outside... Setting aside Andrew Huberman and Wim Hof... Working at a University (I studied German linguistics and worked there afterwards) made me very disillusioned about Science in general. There was so much pressure to publish articles and show up at important conferences... and that did something with us. The demand for new findings was much higher than the reality and I've been at conferences in talks with cool sounding titles - just to find out that they didn't even begin the research, it was just a 'that's what we want to do'.
Also, the statistics guy of our department did a study on several articles, finding out that the statistics in most of them (I don't recall the exact number - it's been years ago - but I remember how impressive high it was) was full of errors. And no wonder, unless those scientists in the Psychology department, we Linguists didn't have any statistics training, so most of us had no idea what we were doing. (In German there's a saying: 'Don't trust a statistics you didn't fake yourself.' and yes, that's also there, because if your study isn't successful, there might be no further funding and no chance to publish those articles, so the temptation to play around with the numbers a little bit is high).
So you have papers that were generated under immense pressure, including all these statistics problems and then comes the media that flattens the complexity of the findings to make flashy articles for the general public...
And I don't want to blame any of them. Not the scientists under pressure, not the journalists, not the public. The system, as flawed as it is, it makes sense. And yet, I wish that we would speak about all of this more... So thank you again for this chance to think and write about it.
wim hof breathing is one of the only things to relax me for a good while. better than smoking and alchohol
I’m getting strong “Narcissists duking it out” vibes here. Not saying that everything you bring up won’t play out in the end (you might be 100% correct and fully justified in being this…LOUD…about it?). BUT, something about the way you are delivering this has me ALSO scratching my head over YOU.
And I even followed similar trajectory to yours with them: I was early WHM adopter (2014/15), and early fan of Huberman (pre fame). Left both for same reasons (wim making too many claims and not being safe or humble enough, and Huberman began to feel like more of a narcissistic money grab than good science)….but I still get the heebie jeebies off you AS WELL, guy! 😂 You seem weirdly over animated in your wanting to be distanced from them.
Sorry, but that’s the truth. Something is amiss here and I can’t put my finger on it yet.
But I highly suspect it has a dollar sign stamped on it for you as well.
💯 %
Everyones a grifter
If you're loud when you endorse a person, you'd better also be loud when you notice that they're full of shit.
You can't unring a bell! It seems as soon as the bell rings for you, you have a consciousness that kicks in, and then you act accordingly in a manner that is right and just. This manner can only be based upon what you know at that time. I think the same is true for most people of good and morals and values. Keep moving forward, keep doing good work, and make adjustments and corrections along the way as necessary to continue the work and your purpose. What is wtong with that? Nothing at all, this is the point of learning and growing, and how we do so. Admit wrongdoings, apologize and accept them, learn the lessons, and get better and better each time. This is wisdom. Ok, I need to listen to my own self here lol!
I am a lifestyle medicine educator. I am about to finish my graduate diploma in lifestyle medicine. Next year i plan to start doing my phd. I am based in China but will return to Melbourne. I agree with you 100% that you need to look at what the person is selling to see if they are a charlatan.
I will continue to teach because it is part of my research. I look at ways the Chinese physicians can help Chinese change their lifestyle. I make bugger all from this but it is authentic, true and much needed. It frustrates me that so many people make a fortunate from being snake oil sales people. I do not have sponsors, there are too many products that are ‘iffy’. We can survive on a very simple plant based diet with simple low or no cost exercise.
Hopefully i will get a scholarship next year.
Thanks for your honesty. I would love to find a man like you to whom integrity is important.
Mad props for putting the truth above all else, earned my sub for sure
Thanks for being brave enough to do this series Scott. Regarding health journalism, would you also be able to delve deeper into the current topic of the airborne thing that cannot be mentioned (it rhymes with MARS-Trove-2), which most people now believe is over and done with? For example, anti-masking rhetoric has reached all-time highs, and plenty in the healthy profession (including at top levels) are in denial about the risks of airborne transmission (it's astounding how many places including hospitals often have no regard at all for this anymore despite the numbers of vulnerable patients and visitors and risks of transmission). Interestingly also, after 4 years of denial by the WHO, they've finally properly acknowledged that the thing that cannot be mentioned is airborne.
All the long-term risks (which I'll call "long c") need to be regarded a lot more seriously as it continues to silently decimate workforces around the world. There is plenty of evidence published in reputable journals like The Lancet, Nature, etc, along with thousands of other papers - risks that governments and medical/media personalities don't wish to acknowledge due to perceived risks to the economy (I would have thought good health would lead to a good economy but what would I know). So instead, they push for unproven hypotheses such as so-called hybrid immunity (which doesn't explain why things like EBV reactivation, tuberculosis and shingles is happening), along with other dangerous ideas - much like what Huberman has been suggesting in relation to avoiding such illnesses.
For an example of the disparity, note how different Australia's lackadaisical approach has become (you might be shocked at some of Dr John Gerrard's recent/continuing remarks on this topic) compared to Germany's health minister. This topic is something that apparently very few in media wish to touch upon - it's bizarre; and I dare say, corrupted by personal wealth and social ladder ambitions.
I consider myself to have a very accurate and finely tuned BS detected. I was critical of Elon Musk in the early days when it seemed like everyone thought he was a god. I was critical of Joe Rogan before he became a pariah to polite society. And the first time I laid eyes on Andrew, I knew immediately that this guy is not only an obvious charlatan but bad news. I don't think it should be that hard, people just need to learn how to be honest with themselves.
Everybody makes mistakes, the ability to take on new information, change your opinion, and acknowledge your mistakes is the best we can do.
That’s growth! Good for you. I think as we move forward it’s becoming more crucial that we take a moment to really get a feel for someone, check in on your instincts and intuition. Even if you have no physical evidence, just trust yourself. Can you believe I actually felt bad at one point for not liking Huberman? So many people like him and live by what he says, I kept trying to force myself to watch his videos but every time alarm bells would go off in my stomach, like something is just not right about this guy. Then the article came out, then after I dug into it more I found more scientists and doctors who had made videos months back debunking his science. Now I know just to listen and trust myself with or without proof.
The haters are going to hate. Plain and simple. You dug into what? Have you ever met and shook Hubermans hand?
this!!!! Twice I've had SAME intuitive negative reaction against someone who was revered in my friend group. And both times, I was proven correct when horrible things happened approx two years later. Taught me, I can definitely trust my instincts on people. Regarding AH, I watched maybe 20 of his early vids, but then drifted away as he started blowing up. Not a coincidence
Much preferred this one. Again, cool channel.
You’ve always been my favorite journalist. You had me worried for a minute. But after watching this I am so relieved. And so impressed. Someone once said something like: The most important truths are often paradoxical. Love you, Scott.
I really wish this video had more views. Unfortunately, I think a lot of Huberman’s followers don’t want to feel dumb or foolish for falling for the things he says that are pseudoscience. Anyone who fell for the hype isn’t dumb, they were just excited or hopeful and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s okay to follow someone for a while and stop when it no longer makes sense to do so and this video does a good job demonstrating that
Thanks Scott! Nobody could have said it better!! 👍 And as the proverb says "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Thanks once more! Good work!! 👍👍👍🙏
Basically, you should be circumspect of ANYONE who profits from your trust.
Even creative UA-camrs eventually run ads and say “ sorry, gotta keep the lights on! 😢”
Guys like Huberman say “although I benefit from you buying my product, it’s in YOUR best interest to trust me!”
Both are taking advantage of you in the same way, just presenting it differently
The comments about friendship hit me pretty hard.
I meet my best friend in high school and we stuck together through thick and thin all through college post college things started to come to my attention there was something off about my friends options of women.
He started to talk about how frustrating and angry women influencers on Instagram and Facebook made him, staying stuff like “they should be ashamed of them selves for showing that much skin”, and complain about people being for flippant and open.
He always had a more conservative slant to him but he never pushed those beliefs on to other people. Then the 2016 election came about and he start listening to Ben Shapiro almost every day and other right wing reactionaries.
He became VERY open about his negative beliefs about women. I wanted to stay his friend I wanted his old self back and I didn’t want to stop being his.
Then he yelled at his girlfriend about what bra color she was buying while we were stopping together. I told him he is no longer welcome in my life after that.
He sounds like a problem. It's ok to leave a friend.
Scott Carney Thanks for the honesty
Everybody should watch this video. I'm always super-skeptical when I notice a profit motive creeping in, but I didn't know about Huberman and AG1 - which, as a guy who's been lifting forever and spent a lot of money on supplements that turned out to be worthless, I spotted that AG1 was scammish from the first time I saw an ad.
Because you are a sincere seeker. Take what is good, discard what is bad, and keep doing your excellent work!
I appreciate that!
there are two types of people in this world. people who dedicate their time to tearing other people down and people who work on themselves and not worrying about what other people do and try to bring positive force to the world and preach their own methodologies. no reason to spend time hating on other channels good or bad. this guy is acting like a woman on her period.
Thank you.
Here are two notable podcast appearances by Andrew Huberman:
Podcast with Joe Rogan: Andrew praised David Sinclair as a brilliant scientist and highlighted their collaborative project.
Podcast with Peter Attia: Peter Attia criticized David Sinclair's claims without mentioning him by name and dismissed NMN as a waste of money. Andrew Huberman listened to Attia's critique without challenging his points.
If I were in Andrew's position, I would have defended David Sinclair by mentioning his prestigious position at Harvard and questioning the lack of evidence Attia cited against NMN, given Sinclair's own research. A more balanced discussion could have been valuable, rather than remaining passive and appearing uncritical.
For fans of Andrew Huberman, this inconsistency can be confusing. Should you take NMN or not? It’s challenging when experts seem to contradict each other, so it might be best to consult multiple sources and make an informed decision based on a broader perspective.
#duplicity
Huberman and Attia are in the same camp
Yes. It does seem that way. Interestingly, Peter views Rapamycin as a "magic pill" that the scientific community has largely overlooked, while Layne Norton recently dismissed it as horse shit on a tweet.
Additionally, Andrew Huberman does not use it as a supplement. Btw, I like Layne Norton so I will go with him on this :)
There’s also a concerning claim by Huberman that is misleading and potentially dangerous. He recently claimed in a podcast with Tim Ferriss (ua-cam.com/video/hbNpsmOVGt0/v-deo.html) that exercises targeting the Tibialis Anterior cured his sciatica and strengthened his calves, which is incorrect. I’ve learned a lot from Huberman over the years, so it was disappointing to hear such claims. I tagged Andy Gaplin in my tweet about this, but I’m skeptical that anyone will address it. I have given further insights into Tibialis Anterior muscle and why its mostly not a case of weak tibs but overactivation of this muscle that leads to shin pain. No Reply. Here is the series of 3 tweets that he should have thanked me for :)
x.com/umeshchhikara/status/1826609628106686491
My concern is that while it’s fine to express opinions within your area of expertise, it’s problematic when someone ventures into a field they aren’t familiar with. For example, anyone with basic high school anatomy knowledge knows that the Tibialis Anterior has no connection to sciatica since it is located in the lower leg and doesn’t cross the knee. Anatomy isn’t as flexible as AG1 (pun intended) :)
Sadly even Andy Gaplin will not attend to it because he is promoted by Andrew Huberman.
So, it seems there’s a network of people who, despite being intelligent and contributing positively to the community, also spread misinformation, which can be dangerous. Regardless of who you are, it's important to build a consistent character that reflects in all your actions. Don’t be saint in one aspect of your life and a devil in another. Anybody can be wrong. But acknowledge it. It will not bring your reputation down. Stop selling your expertise in number of sets you do of an exercise. It doesn't work like that in real life.
Anyway...thanks to people like you who sets up a check point. Keep doing the great work and service to the community at large.
Thank you for your devotion to the truth. Your story on Attia’s Oura ring lawsuit was quite eye opening to the amount of money on the table. ($20 million for the AG is even more unbelievable). There used to be frequent posts of his Oura ring scores and how important that was to your wellness. Then they disappeared. Hmmm. Was it important, or just profitable?
I was an early subscriber to Huberman's podcasts. Well before his popularity exploded, I noticed 3 things that convinced me that he was wrong for me:
1) He got a lot of things wrong. Early on he promised that he would spend a month on each topic, with three weeks of him lecturing and the fourth week would be devoted to answering question pertaining to the previous three weeks. He never admitted to making mistakes. I and several others pointed out that he often got his units of measure confused. Things like giving quantity recommendations in units of rate without a corresponding time value. That is a major red flag that indicates a scientist or engineer does not know what he is talking about. The fact that Huberman did not reconcile the measurement units when asked by his listeners indicates to me that he didn't just make a mistake, but that he truly does not understand what he was talking about.
2) Huberman discussed topics that were not in his expertise with the air of great authority, often while not understanding more than whatever he thought he had gleaned from reading a paper or two.
3) His shilling for AG1 is blatantly dishonest. I fell for his spiel and ordered the magical green dust. I didn't expect much, but when I read the ingredients list and nutritional breakdown, the remaining trust I had in Huberman flashed off. I unsubscribed and stopped listening to Huberman instantly.
I've also unsubscribed to every content maker who shills for AG-1. Before I unsubscribe, I let them know why. I received only one reply. It was a fitness "influencer" who claimed that because his muscles were bigger than mine (how would he know?) that he knew more about the benefits of AG1 than I knew. Well, in a way he was right. I don't know how much money AG1 was paying him to lie to his viewers.
Thanks so much for being a critical thinker.
I should make a video “Why I fell for Scott Carney”
Loved your 2 books. Have them displayed next to my ice bath. But I’ve learned since then that you have an obsession with attacking ppl’s flaws. You can call it journalism but it’s just a cumulative need to crap on ppl.
What does Huberman being with multiple women have to do with his science. If that news didn’t come out would you be saying this? No, you wouldn’t. You just kick ppl when they’re down.
32 ppl have died doing Wim Hof. That’s not Wim’s fault, it’s their own fault for not doing it properly and in a safe manner.
P.S. If you were friends with Huberman before all this then yes, you are a crappy friend. Cause a good friend would have called him out much earlier, and to his face, not on social media.
I stand for truth in all things. I’m just telling you like it is. If that makes you want to not like my work anymore that’s on you. My journey has not changed.
That’s not the truth it’s just your truth
When yoga was the cure all for everything claim. Many yoga teachers would warn there students that yoga is not a panacea. I think that is the word your describing for the win off and Huberman methods. They are not Panaceas. I mean come now all physical therapists use ice and ice baths for certain issues. We are looking for natural methods for self empowered ways to heal and have a pain free life outside of pharmaceutical medicine. Scott this a great video we need truthful seekers and like you we are all learning on this life path.
Thanks for watching.
When the body is healing it tells you to slow down. It's sore. Ice works by stopping that process so you can give it your all. It's great before a competition, it's a terrible idea to do it regularly as it prevents recovery and muscle growth from happening during that "sore" process
This is why physios use a cool spray on the pitch during a soccer game but never when you go to see them in clinic with an injury
They'll also use it to give you a break from chronic pain, or when the healing process is going overboard like in an autoimmune condition
Love this, thank you!
You definitely have some valid points in your critique and I appreciate that it’s balanced and seems thought out and fair. I have to say the Andrea Love article falls extremely flat though, I don’t see why you would support that.
She accuses Huberman of using his narrow domain of expertise and broadening his ethos to bad sources and things he’s not an expert in…but the article is literally called “Scientists like me…” which is doing the very same thing. The only difference is he is truly an accomplished scientist with many articles written and >10,000 academic citations on google scholar, a respectable scientific career. Andrea Love on the other hand has 6 articles on Lyme disease and 157 lifetime citations of her work. Hell, I’m a master’s student whose academic contribution literally no one will ever care about and I have nearly that many publications and citations. I’ll say her critique within her field seems warranted and valid, but outside that it’s the same questionable non-expertise she’s accusing Huberman of.
I won’t go too much farther into a dissection of her article but I’d be remiss not to mention that she does an absolutely unacceptable sleight of hand of implying causation from correlation. She says he’s spreading health misinformation then says people who believe one piece of health misinformation are more likely to believe others. The clear implication is causation. If I was being cynical I’d say she knew and is deliberately misleading ley-people. Or she’s just too stupid to understand correlation and causation-which I find unlikely for someone with a PhD in the sciences.
Basically, everything she says about Huberman COULD be true, but how can I trust a clear hypocrite who is either too stupid or careless to differentiate correlation and causation, or else is intentionally being misleading to generate fear in support of a point that ought to stand on its own merits?
I have tried to watch Huberman a couple of times but found he rambles on without getting to the point. After watching Wim Hof I started taking cold showers which I found great but I wasnt going to pay out for one of those expensive ice baths. Even with the cold showers I had a negative experience where I went straight from a 8 mile run into a cold shower. I got tunnel vision and felt dizzy. I think my blood pressure went too high. It has not happened again because if I take a cold shower after a run I let my body recover first. These things have benefits but have to be used in the right way.
Nice disclosure on conflicts of interest. I am suspicious of anyone selling anything online, supplements, ice baths and courses.
Integrity may not pay as much, but at least you can sleep well each night. Though UA-cam decided to play me a supplement advert half way through 😂
LMAO, really? What supplement am I unintentionally shilling?
HUELs daily greens, which ironically i think is like a British rival to AG1. I do watch a bit of “dairy of a ceo” with Steven Bartlett who is always pushing it, someone else with a conflict of interest, as he’s a director in the company.
We have this fallacy, I don't know if it has a name, so I gave a name. I call it the A-hole fallacy. People can be revolutionary in some aspects, even change the world. But this doesn't mean they weren't A-holes, and being an A-hole doesn't take away from the magnitude or veracity of their accomplishment even if it's not pallatable to our sensibilities. And it also doesn't mean that they were RIGHT all the time. Newton was an alchemist, Steve Jobs was a toxic boss, Edison was a gigantic pr!ck. Wim Hoff may be crazy, and many of his methods dangerous. But cold plunge therapy is back in the zeitgeist and it does seem to have a lot of positive health effects. Huberman always rubbed me the wrong way as a person, but he also has some decent podcasts about cannabis and psilocybin that are exhaustive and pretty good. He's wrong about some things, but wild podcasting success tends to steer people off course sooner or later. Joe Rogan has had some great guests, but he's often laughably wrong about things too. Just sayin.' Can't wait to hear what Carney says, my dude who shovels snow in his skivvies.
Newton was notoriously unpleasant.
Its nice to see another sensible human, thank you for your beautiful brain.
@@HikarusVibrator You shouldn't do the breathing right before swimming, especially holding your breath under the water. Some people have blacked out in the water and drowned! I don't know how much time one should wait. I'm just guessing 10 minutes is enough.
Like the Turing test. Mister Turing as a horrible criminal who did time, but that's all ignored now.
What did he say about psilocybin
There's a lot of utility in Wim's work. I still do cold showers and find it fun to test my breath-holding limits.
Don't be so hard on yourself, Scott!
Commitment to the truth!
That's the guiding star. 🌟⭐️
It's just too bad that I have to keep recalibrating where the truth actually is.
@@sgcarney We all have to do that, and it is actually hard work. A mature person does the work and can admit, that they made a mistake. That's the best we can hope for in any person. Congrats on your courage!
Joe Rogan knows how to keep it real, he talks to all these people, adapts to the best info and moves on without worshiping everything they say.
All the gold and money in the world is worthless if you must sacrifice your honor to maintain it. I donnot envy men like Huberman at all. They can keep their money, I'll keep my honor.
"It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation." - Herman Melville
I dislike Huberman as well, but don't let him drown your channel in monotony. Don't lose what made your channel special.
What makes you think that brilliant people and their ideas don’t also have serious flaws as well ? Of course they do and that doesn’t make him less brilliant or credible.
Robin Williams -brilliant and flawed
Sigmund Freud -brilliant and flawed
Everyone
-brilliant and flawed
Just a comment, not a criticism of you or a defense of Hof or Huberman.
"See what products they're endorsing.
See if their advice directly pushes you to purchasing those products.
Figure out how much money those people are making selling those products."
You have six of your books in the background and two of Laura's. Foxtopus. There's a reason for everything and I get it, everyone needs to eat. Keep it real my fellow truth seeker.
I've always been impressed with Wim Hof.
Thank you for having the courage to call out these dudes abusing their influence for personal gain.. no integrity amongst them
thanks
@@sgcarney I'm from Australia, never heard of you before but subscribed now, in light of the Emotionally Unhealthy Western Leadership that you are calling out. 🙏🏽❣️
12:27 While I understand that sentiment because my loyalty is very deep, yet it has its own well-defined borders, e.g. my devotion to a friendship stops when I detect incompatibilities of one-sided gain where I am being actively harmed and I am expected to not challenge the status quo, being loyal to the truth and not the person makes you a bad friend. There is a third way, which is letting your friend know that there is a way to face the truth that is ultimately for everyone's good and helping them on that journey along that sometimes unclear path. It's just something to note and address for future friendships. If you communicate it ahead of time, you can see if other people can work with that or not. Just lead with that before you go beyond acquaintance territory.
Part of the problem with charismatic people like Wim Hof, is they work with something borrowed from traditional and esoteric origin; something outside what is considered scientific and likely never will be. That is the nature of it. They are individuals working from their how experiences. The entire concept is not as holistic or comprehensive as it ideally should be. The meditation techniques I learned more than 20 years ago came with warnings that it was dangerous to explore with out guidance. I was taught that "this" is the safer way to hold the energy, and "this" is the way to earth and calm things down if things should get out of hand. We are often left to our own devices in working with this.
I see how people like Mantak Chia, which I look to more than many others, has attempted to incorporate the ancient techniques into modern science. That is the way alternative practices are explained and interpreted for current times, almost with out exception. I don`t think they ever will be entirely approved by mainstream science nor the medical establishment. However, they can in many cases help when little else does. They come with an element of mystery and intrigue. On the other hand, don`t ever think life is safe or your approved health treatment comes with any warranties either.
Just continue be calm. and enjoy yourself and do what you really want to do
I've watched this video three times (you're welcome! 😊), but most of this video seems to be:
. explaining why OTHER people fell for these phonies (which was interesting),
. how you became skeptical of them (also interesting)
. explaining how you're going to avoid conflicts of interest in the future (laudable).
But you barely grapple with how and why YOU fell for these guys. I've been watching you, off and on, for a while and I really wanted to hear a bit more introspection on that topic. There are lots of videos on UA-cam speculating about why people fall for cults and scams etc, but not much is expressed in the first person. I was hoping for a bit more introspection in this one.
Tbh this is really hard, in terms of pinpointing the specifics. If we knew at the time when we were falling for stuff, we'd know. I'm trying to write something right now about being caught up in a separate unrelated thing and then realising I was wrong and all I remember are the feelings... It's hard!
@@meretriciousinsolent that's a fair comment - introspection is hard, especially when trying to recapture states of mind from the past that one has now rejected. I'm not expecting him to have realised why he feel for them at the time he fell for them, but this video is made with the advantage of hindsight, and the title of the video led me to expect a bit more introspection.
“Faire du bois de chauffage à partir de l'arbre tombé”.
This is a reply I gave to someone but I wanted it to be in the main replies as well. Stop caring about "pedigree". Look, the only case in which "pedigree" is a huge deal is when you have someone who is a complete blind follower. This is what the whole social system wants you to be. Get your news from the professionals. Get your medical advise from the professionals. Outsource everything. But we are now living in an age of information, in which ignorance is a choice. You don't need to "trust" anyone. Do your own research. Don't outsource your health. If Huberman says something that is empirically incorrect, don't do it. Take what he says that is good. Are you that much of a blind follower that you have to completely stay away from all of someone's output because of one mistake? YOU and YOU alone are responsible for the information you act on.
And Huberman is responsible for his actions, too.
@sgcarney journal, what makes your HRV improve, Vo2Max, etc., How can you get fooled if you do?
There are so many parallels between this and people who initially think gender ideology is based in reality. I know that's not your area and it's often a risky career move to dive into (and full of its own shouters on both sides, which makes it a tumultuous space) but if you have the time/headspace to get stuck into it and make the comparison between this and the medicalisation of gender ID - particularly in the US - it all looks like the same pattern repeating. It makes me wonder why we're still like this. We don't seem to be able to evolve to critically think quickly, as a species. (I don't know what that would entail tbh!)
Worth mentioning (has not been brought up yet) , animal testing pertaining to AH.
There is an article called "The Psychopathology of Animal Researcher."
The way we treat animals is the way we treat people.
Sidney Ross Singer 2019
Thank you for your work Scott!
Good point
I knew this at 3 years old, but it's nice to see some research on it.
im contemplating if i should be supportive of animal research, can you tell me exactly what article you meant with the psychopathology of animal researchers?
This rationality helped me on the channel I'm not going to make.
If you have integrity, loyalty to a friend means letting them know when their behavior is not in alignment with their values. How they choose to respond is on them.
A reporter with integrity had loyalty to their audience and the truth. Not their “friends”.
@@sgcarney I just mean that one can be loyal to one’s friends without thereby having to apologize for their bad behavior. I didn’t mean to imply your integrity is lacking.
You are clearly jumping on the cancel bandwagon in order to ensure your own longevity.
Everyone is selfish, aren't they?
You are clearly not being open to debate. Be sceptical about everything and do research. If what you think to be true is challenged then be open enough to fact check. It rained with Wim Hoff at his home in 2019 and I was put off by the tree huggers and crystal nobs. It seems clear that there are mental benefits to his method but his physical claims to health benefits need research and peer review.
So are you😂😂😂
Absolutely at least with him hoff
Tell me you are chronically online without telling me you are chronically online.
Great video Scott. Everything you are saying about conflicts of interest makes sense. And although I'm sad to see your wedge workshops go, that also makes sense... and I wonder if maybe you can do something with it in another way?
I understand you had a falling out but your lengthy post has left me yet wondering what it was that they did wrong that made you fall for them.
I would say you didn’t fall for anything… these guys opened our minds to this type of wellness to explore. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that - if you let them control your life and followed them off a cliff, sure, but use it as needed!
I agree that the 20% can be dangerous, look at Joe Rogan - it’s insane the 180 degree heal turn he’s taken with such bad information, but I don’t view Wim or Huberman in that same light. Wim is a bit more aggressive but Huberman is always just giving you the science / research and never really forces stuff upon you. Again, nothing like Joe Rogan who knows everything and demands you dress the same, think the same, and act the same
You make a very interesting point: someone can be very charismatic when they are in a positive or even manic phase, but that isn't all of them. I teach at a university, and if I am well-rested and excited about the material, I can give a good impression,
but my family knows I am more complicated than that! A popular singer or musician, a psychiatrist, a professor, a movie star,
a politician, a guru all should know these dangers very well, and worst of all that they themselves can get sucked into thinking they actually are that image. For example, a great martial arts or meditation teacher may only truly be "great" when they are in front of the group. Enlightenment in general is only temporary: it is of this moment and can be washed away in the next if
we are not attentive. So it is a mistake by students or followers to attribute that "enlightenment" to the personality. There may be rare exceptions, like Buddha or Jesus, who are enlightened so deeply that they manifest that nearly all the time. For the rest of us, it is a constant practice, a constant discipline, and a challenge to be constantly "woken up" by our own flaws and also by the necessity of helping others in need. It seems to me that for YT influencers there are two huge additional dangers: the addiction to money and power driven by the demands of "the algorithm", and the fact that one naturally edits videos to only show the "great" part.
You're like my gay uncle with his celebrity gossip mags. Except in the health space. Much needed!!
Holy $#@&! That's a crazy amount of speaking fees!
I had no idea they made that much
From my experience a lot of people in your situation would just disappear. It's impressive that you are taking responsibility and trying to fix things. You won't be a millionaire telling the truth but your final breath will be in peace.
Thank you for being here.
bro, it's obvious from your mannerisms, gestures and manner of speaking that you're troubled by something (or a number of things). No shame but I hope you're able to work through it. Take a moment to reflect on your obsessions.
Is that a diagnosis? What's your basis for that?
@@sgcarneyhe probably watched a huberman video
11:26 32 PEOPLE?!?!? I knew some people had died, but I didn't know it was that many. Good heavens, that's nuts.
34, now
Thank you ❤
I ❤buying your books 🎉
Wow what a great video!! Number one, truth is EVERYTHING. I think it’s one of the absolute most important things in life. Then, you’re going to decline sponsorships is so good and true makes sense as to why. Really proud of you thank you for your honesty and speaking the truth!
Thanks.
People who will watch 327 Amber Heard takedown videos in a row are enraged that Joe Neurogan is getting consecutive videos.
that is accurate.
I still love essential oils but was involved in Doterra. I learnt a lot, got a lot of freebies and have a great collection. Made no money, well a bit but mostly just got lots of oils.
Still will buy occasionally but am not involved. I did not like the mlm and cult like aspect.
The ending saddened me in the sense that it rams home the message that the price of virtue is poverty. Obviously taken to an extreme, but it puts into very sharp focus the cost of have strong values especially when contrasted with the folks who have more flexible beliefs
It saddens me, too. Only liars win.
Aha, I actively fight against that sentiment, since I think it's a road which leads to pessimistic nihilism. And I don't think it's necessarily true, youve called out examples like medlife crisis who have been able to "win" without compromising their morals (at least that's my impression based on his UA-cam)
Nonethless I think it's incredibly frustrating to observe the same pattern of unhidden mistruths enriching people who surely must know better. Huberman, Pennies going in raw, Liverking, Logan Paul, ...
But I havent answered the question of why I personally find it frustrating. In many cases these influencers aren't hurting people by selling AlphaBrain power flakes with a free fl*shlight 🔦. I dont believe their audiences are stupid. They have a human desire to believe the claims of a prophet and I think they often want to support creators that they like.
Anyway I came across your channel for the first time today and absolutely love the content. You've gained a new patron. I've been debating starting a UA-cam as a way for me to explore the question "what is the cost of aligning yourself with truth". And in a lot of ways I think your work tackles the inverse of this question which gives me some good pointers.
I appreciate you're hearing this from a random on the internet but given the videos of yours I've watched so far I think you may find it interesting to investigate the incestuous relationships of podcasting and how it influences the scrutiny podcasters put on each other. In my mind they play a game where the incentives are set up in a way which makes it beneficial to be casually ignorant of the BS claims each high value podcaster makes. This ignorance means they can benefit from the reach of their audience by going on their podcast and vice versa. Coffeezilla and Rogan is a good example. As much as I love Rogan his actions are often at odds with his words. In ways that you don't need a microscope to examine. Coffeezilla could easily be critical of him, but if doing so means he draws the ire of Rogan it could have serious ramifications for coffee.
Just a very loose idea at the moment, and it wouldn't make you any friends. But could be an interesting avenue to investigate
Thanks for being here. And yeah I did a video on that very thing a few months back.