Has anyone else noticed that Zach seams to be the only youtuber willing to do video's showing and explaining the really technical bits of tree surgery? I've watch a LOT of tree surgery videos and I'm pretty sure that this was the first one to show and explain controlled speedlines. Awesome to see, thanks 😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Zogg1281 Aw thanks man, I can't imagine I am the first, but I do have a strong interest in sharing techniques and methods I use to make things a little easier. My favorite thing about making youtube videos is sharing my ideas and hearing other people share their ideas in the comments.
@zanzan3244 No problem! Bo was kind enough to switch me positions so I was happy it gave me a chance to show what was going on the ground. Thanks man, as per usual he came out at just the wrong time 😅 to be fair though we shouod have set up cones 😬
@geoffreygreen297 haha Bo and I are good buddies, he has helped me grow a bunch in this industry and I hope I've helped him some too. I always love a good day working for him.
That's pretty scary almost having the ropes come down on your lanyard. Thank God it caught on the wood for ya! Good reminder for the rest of us to watch out for that too! Love the controlled speed line. Was perfect for that without having a crane.
Me too. I'm very thankful the Lord protected me from some more serious disaster there. I should have given that more attention. Definitely some that woukd have been better to prevent than solve 😬😅
4:06. I’m really glad to hear you say “growing phototrophically out this way”…I have been having arguments with coworkers (and bosses) for YEARS that trees like that aren’t “leaning” (implying some sort of defective growth or weak roots and/or structure)…the trees have grown that way in their search for sun and the fact that they are not perfectly vertical does not mean they are inherently weaker/compromised.
Both you Guys Kick Ass! That tree was the real deal! And i agree on what you said about, "We were rushing and We were Tired!" Thats just asking for trouble. Its amazing what a good night sleep will do for the body and the mind the next day!
@@zaccheusmany top leaders in their respective fields mention Decision Fatigue often. Sometimes you just gotta take a break or call it a day when our judgement begins to lapse.
Very nice presentation Zach, that radio voice is really the icing on the cake 😃 nice to see your channel doing well. I’ll be reaching out to you on instagram with an idea. Work safe brother.
I watched the whole thing I was right there with you, I can almost feel the tree moving really good content thank you very much yeah I really enjoy , has been really interesting and ingrossing.
Another great Zach Attack video, showing us how Zach wood take care of those trees! He’s really branching out! Believe it or knot. That young man’s got strong roots… ok time for me to leaf. 😂
@edm3397 You bet! I think the 201 will always be my default climbing saw. The electric saws are getting better and have their place, but I'll never not enjoy a good 201 day.
Sorry to many coments. But wana see how tie it higher dosent matter. Just seems gets more momentem before can control a piece. But often wrong. Great vids
Great job buddy has always very nice work very nice setup amazing job question for you why didn't the customer move that trailer and you could have backed the chipper in right there and just lowered everything right to that point
@br-dj2ti Thanks, Bill! We did move the trailer by hand after the first branch or two. Since there was such a long run and the speedline rope was so heavy (200' of 5/8") we wanted lots of room to run the mini skid back and forth for tensioning the speedline. That's why we kept the chipper back away a little.
Question for you buddy when them ropes on that last piece of brush on the one side almost came across your lanyard in the situation where the ropes would have came across your lanyard what would have been the best situation for you to do I'm just curious thank you buddy God bless
@br-dj2ti oooo, I'm not even sure. Definitely a bad scenario. I had two other ropes on so I probably woukd have had to disconnect my lanyard and deal with it from there. No matter what, it wpukd have not been fun.
Aw I'm sorry Mary. You're probably not the only one. We put it in there to avoid dead audio time. We try to keep the volume low so it doesn't interrupt the more important audio like speaking and such.
@zaccheus Hey, it's your videos. I just watch many videos during the day, and too much music bothers me. But that is my issue. Yes, it is low, but I'd prefer the wind in the leaves and the birds chirping. If there are any. Lol. You are the only one in all the videos who respond to me. I appreciate that. You do what you do, and I will still watch and worry about you as if you are my grandson up there in those trees.
@marymulrooney1334 Haha I appreciate your concern 😊 I figure if someone is willing to share their thoughts with me, it's the least I can do to thank them. If I never replied, I'd have much less opportunity to learn something new. You're definitely not the only one to comment about music. Maybe I'll make one without and see how it turns out.
@jeffschroeder9089 You probably know the answer to that better than I. I know August recommends a static line. I think using the machine as the anchor might have helped, but static or dynamic, the both shpuld require the same amount if tension force to support the load in the middle of the line, right? A static line wouldn't have reduced the load on the tree I don't think. Please share your thoughts if you think otherwise.
You boys do some awsome work…🫲. Age is gettin me and bout every job I look at I’m thinkin lifts….wish I had you to do the climbin and me do the rope work on my big red oak over the house…not that tall just gettin wide and it’s basically touchin the house..I’ve kept it for the roots holdin my hill back and shade too
@charlesmullins3238 ooo touching definitely isn't good. Do you think a little end reduction would do the trick or do you plan tr remove the whole thing? It sounds like a keeper if you can.
@charlesmullins3238 thats great! I take down so many big beautiful oak trees next to houses because folks are concerned about them coming down. I wish I could convince them to let them stay, but I'm just the contract climber and the decision is almost always made before I get there 🤷♂️
@@zaccheus know it to well…made a woman cry after talkin her outta topping her big pin oak out front on a nice street for all to see. Took 7 s10 truck&trailer loads out of it takin out droopers and handsawing for light in the canopy plus a bunch of hacks done the neighbors like she thought she wanted so she got a perfect contrast of what it woulda looked like..
Ughh, just used this on a job. I think it's my third time. I just had an epiphany. I think a lot of time is lost in the lowering due to speedline sling. A little friction is your friend while speedlining, but during a controlled speedline (slowline) I think a trolley or any sort of pulley would really help. I bet a dmm rigger pulley would be awesome for this application. We had a 20" hackberry between two garages. The garage roofs were 22" apart. The other direction was power lines. The other big hangup is the crew, when the next piece is ready you have to get everyone back in position
We started out using a block, we were loosing too much time getting it back to the climber. Speedlines are just slow in general. They have their place, but they're not super fast
Enjoyed the video. I'm thinking I'd avoid that controlled speed line and opt for a line going over to the left hillside through a block anchored maybe 10' in a solid tree running to the machine....letting the trees brake the limbs as they slide from the top. Hard for me to say exactly, not being on site to view the whole scene. I just didn't care for the long controlled line. JMHO
@havespurswillclimb Thats a for consideration! Controlled speedlines just take so much time. Doesn't seem like they should, but they do. Only things I can think of thay might have been reason to avoid a trad speedline would be the temperature of the carsbiners and clearance over the fence. Maybe being off to the left there woukd have avoided the fence though. Thanks for sharing your ideas, I really enjoy hearing other perspectives than my own.
@dancutting8940 Sure thing! I've really be looking for an opportunity to put it to the test with a load cell, but it's really really hard to find a repeatable situation to test both methods in. I'll definitely talk about the theory again sometime soon and keep my eye out for an opportunity to test
Hey Z (or anyone else for that matter), I noticed you using an Oregon bar with the husky battery saw. What are the specs on that bar and chain? The bars that come with that saw seem to get bent easily. Great videos!
@gail0010 Maybe someone else can answer better. That wasn't my saw, it belonged to the fella that I worked for that day. I'm pretty sure it's the Oregon speed cut nano kit. I'm personally nit a huge fan because it's a special pitch and there are no full chisel chain options in that pitch.
You can’t beet a good groundie! Mine just let his first one run and he did great for his fit time ! Just doing it is possibly the best way to learn, it’s a little nerving for the climber!
@randyshaffersr.785 Haha absolutely! Everyone has to start somewhere! I work with a variety of skill levels on the ground and I've learned that you have to climb for the skill on the ground.
@nicolaisvlog8701 haha, I'm going to have to climb a lot of trees to make the millions needed to pay for that 😂 you can rent utility helicopters just like you can rent cranes. I think I've heard of quotes more than $60k for a three hour minimum 😬
@brandon-rustystreecare I thought about sending some that way. We also struggled a little bit woth rope paths and I was afraid of that making things more complex
@SaoPauloNX I've pulled some strands out with the handsaw before, but I've never cut it through. I have been shocked through a steel core flipline when I was working over a pasture fence though 😬😂
Stump grinding is traditionally an extra cost. In this case, it was good ti leave the stump intact because it wasn't an inconvenience to anyone and the root system will help prevent erosion until smaller trees can start helping.
@arbolorian Arborwear Dogwood! Definitely the lightest chainsaw pant I've ever worn. I haven't had them long enough to comment on their longevity. I have heard both good and bad so it might kinda depend on just how hard you are on them.
From the thumbnail, I thought it was the use of a chipper in close proximity to ropes that had you scared! I'm sure the camera doesn't do justice to the amount of movement. Slopes and hills have a hard time showing a true representation on screen.
@bioniclife haha, well a long time ago, I did have someone feed a speedline into the chipper. No it does, I do my best to capture it, but it still doesn't tell the whole story
What a challenge. Very happy to see on day 1 y'all knew when to call it quits. Not worth not having a day 2. Isn't this the property where you worked on the hill on the other end of the house? mud splashed on the windows? Really appreciate all the explanations. If the music was to disappear it would not make your videos less enjoyable to watch. As always, stay safe buddy!
@ClellWise Thanks for your thoughts as always, Clell. This was a different property than the one where I hit the house with mud. Funny enough both houses have the same color steel on the roof though! Good memory!
Hi Zach, even though this was a tough job it made for a great video. I really liked that you had two view from working up in the tree and then the view from working on the ground as well. We usually think of a Zip line for entertainment to fly high over the terrain so it was interesting to see it used for tree limbs instead. It would have made your life a little easier if the customer didn't have that Medal fence as you had to cut some of the branches to maneuver over the fence. The customer meant well to try as assist you get the branch over the fence. It must have been interesting to get the larger pieces of trunk out of the wooded area and cut up and taken out. Thanks to Bo for going up to cut in the tree so we could have the view of the operation from on the ground. How long does it usually take you to setup all of the ropes to do a job like this safely? Thanks Zach for creating these videos and filming when it would be easier not to have to deal with a camera.
@benburns5995 The metal fence was definitely a fragile obstacle to avoid. It was easier for us to avoid it than take it down though. I'm sure he meant well, but I coukd afford the chance of him getting hurt. Setup definitely took longer than I wanted it to. I can say how long, but it was too long
@NickTaylor-lm1lv One more fella certainly wouldnt have hurt! I think the only branches we had to deal with in that green space were those two in the videos so it wasn't too bad.
@randyshaffersr.785 Of course, I'd be happy to share. They are $1,600 and the only place I know thay sells them is this website: hownot2.com/products/z2r?_pos=2&_sid=191d869f2&_ss=r You are supposed to use it with a separate line for life support and I think I'll do that next time becaise it is a challenge to take off of the rope whole your up in the tree. But it's real handy for getting up quick!
I bought a Z2R and love it. I did a video on how I set mine up. Took me along time to get dialed in but it works great. Take a secondary climb line up with you to climb on when you get to the top. After you’re tied in then just lower the whole Z2R system down together so you don’t have to dismantle it in the tree. Also, put a lanyard on the drill. Great work💪🏼🌲
@timbermen11 Oh thats great! I definitely plan on using two ropes next time. It was a hassle to deal with up there. I do have a lanyard on the drill it's just behind my arm.
@@zaccheus I didn’t see the lanyard on your drill. My bad. Been watching you from the beginning and always admire your work ethic and how humble you are. Keep up the good work dude
@jimschaffer9831 Thanks, Jim. I think a lot of climbers are in this industry because they love it. My love for climbing is definitely what brought me here.
@@alasdairneilson1641 hownot2.com/products/z2r?_pos=2&_sid=191d869f2&_ss=r This is the only place I know of that sells them. They're still kinda pricey. I'm hoping they'll get cheaper if someone starts competing with them.
@@zaccheus Thanks mate, I only started tree work last year age 63. All your videos are great and well explained for the unexperienced first timers.... Keep up the great content pal...👍
@alasdairneilson1641 That's awesome man, keep it up! Please let me know about any questions you have about anything in the videos. I often forget about what parts are important for someone getting into the trade.
I love watching these videos, thanks for making them :). I live in japan and I can't help but wonder how much more difficult it would be if the trees were covered in Kuzu vines.. Over hear there are so many giant vines laced between trees some as thick as 15 cm. I wonder if it would make it unpredictable when you are cutting limbs off if they are connected to other trees by one or multiple vines....
@petersvideofile you're absolutely right. I don't have to deal with too many vines. Fellas who work to the south of me have a lot more vines to deal with. Thankfully, lawn trees are more likely to be vine free, but it still happens.
@@zaccheus Thanks so much for your reply. I just had a wild idea, how cool would a arborist tree felling simulator game be with semi-relistic tree physics. I'm in no position to make it happen, but it just seems like the kind of niche game that could get a cult following given how many people watch these videos. You could have a whole system where you use the money to buy new equipment and such, and get graded on how well you did the job, how risky your attack plan was, I wonder if it would be possible for someone to make such a game. I see there are some forestry sim games but the tree felling portion seems pretty basic, I think swinging around in the tree choosing where to cut the various limbs would be the fun part. I'm just trying to imagine the "speed runs" people would do now :)
@petersvideofile thats honestly a brilliant idea. I don't know enough about game marketing to have any idea if it would sell well, but it sure would be fun to mess around with!
@@zaccheus yeah me neither I'm going to suggest it to my friend who makes games and see what he thinks. I think the best possible incarnation of the game would be a vr game like the rock climbing game for occulus rift game the climb, just add a chain saw and rigging and what not. I think the complexity of the game would be quite high though, and you'de have to have a good non-vr mode too to be able to sell enough copies. I'm just imagining the ability to tune weather (wind, etc) and also add elements like rotted wood, etc. I'll let you know if my friend thinks there's any market for it, although I doubt he has the budget or man power to do it.
@petersvideofile There woukd definitely be a lot of physics to factor in. If he needs help woth the tree work side of it, I'd be happy to help as much as I can.
Those battery saws sure are nice! Reeeeeeeeeowww Reow! Man I wish I could hire you to get the 40 ft pecans out from over my house. Some limbs are almost level, some 45 degrees and some almost 15 degrees from being strait up.
@RC-Heli835 They really are! It's so handy to not have to start a saw while in the tree. It might take a little looking, but you might be able to find a contract climber in your area that can do the job a little cheaper than a tree service if you're able to handle the clean up 🤷♂️
The tree is so big with the limbs so far apart and everything spread out. A crane would be nice. Its like 3.5 feet from the house. The bucket truck I have borrowed is still not back up and running I've spent 300 bucks on it. I did get the PTO working yesterday but now there is a bad hydraulic leak. I think some filters and an O ring just might do the trick. I just don't know that I should continue using it when I get it going again. Its been 20 feet over the house since 2 Satdy's ago.
@RC-Heli835 oh nooo, that's sounds rough. Seems like old bucket trucks end up sticking around long after they should have been retired. Maybe give it back to the owner and rent a towable lift?
@@zaccheus Yea its a 96 GMC Topkick with a versalift shv36. Its a good truck but the folks who bought it from my nephew in law don't keep it up. I think your right about handing it back over though cuz I feel somewhat responsible for something I've borrowed. 100 hydraulic line, 200 dollar brake relay 50 bucks worth of hydro filters and 12v relay tonight. I love a bucket thought I could enjoy that a while.
@RC-Heli835 ugh, those old gm truck are hard to find parts for too. A lot of aftermarket stuff has filled in, but they're still a pain to work on. Sounds like you've already spent more than a rental lift costs 😬
@@zaccheus I think you have it back to front. If luck didn't exist you would have been dead long ago. Your commentary suggests how often you have been wrong in an assumption in a game where one wrong assumption can be fatal. Maybe you like to push the boundaries or maybe having your focus divided into working and describing it makes it difficult. Don't get me wrong I like the content I just worry about your safety.
@jonathanbrocklehurst6724 I appreciate your concern. It is a dangerous industry. Every decision is based on a number of assumptions as not a single thing in this trade is certain. Assumptions get better and more accurate with experience and I do have plenty more experience to gain. However, I will always stand by the fact that luck is a fairytale invention by the Irish and supported by people who are afraid of an authoritative higher power. There are a few times that I've been closer to death than I am comfortable with. All of them out of my direct control. I will never credit my survival to a fairytale.
if a branch is leaning to the side, you don't have to make a smile cut... it's enough to cut 1/3 of the branch and then back cut. it's faster and you save battery or gas :) but certainly respect for the work done :)
@radovanflexvidacic9410 Thanks man. You're absolutely right. I typically still stick to a notch and back cut when I want the branch to rotate so that the tips are down and the butt is up. Ideally that rotation wpuld reduce dynamic forces, but it might be a negligible amount 🤷♂️
@radovanflexvidacic9410 of course, it was a matter of stuff getting tangled when we hung it on the blue rope and everything was thrashing around. When you have two tether points, it just introduces more slack to tangle up. I probably should have tried it to be honest. I just wasn't feeling it. Which isn't a good reason.
@@zaccheus I try my best in this job, I started 6-7 years ago and I'm doing well... sometimes I just have to cut a branch so that it literally breaks, sometimes I have to smile cut and so on... just try it when you have branches that are leaning only lower cut and another one from above... :) if it's okay, I expect greetings in the next clip :)
Has anyone else noticed that Zach seams to be the only youtuber willing to do video's showing and explaining the really technical bits of tree surgery? I've watch a LOT of tree surgery videos and I'm pretty sure that this was the first one to show and explain controlled speedlines. Awesome to see, thanks 😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Zogg1281 Aw thanks man, I can't imagine I am the first, but I do have a strong interest in sharing techniques and methods I use to make things a little easier. My favorite thing about making youtube videos is sharing my ideas and hearing other people share their ideas in the comments.
Totally agree. He’s light years ahead of the others when it comes to explaining how things work and what he’s doing.
Thanks for the groundie perspective. The struggle is real.
And I like you you handled the homeowner violating your drop zone
@zanzan3244 No problem! Bo was kind enough to switch me positions so I was happy it gave me a chance to show what was going on the ground.
Thanks man, as per usual he came out at just the wrong time 😅 to be fair though we shouod have set up cones 😬
Smart move on leaving when tired
😂 It is a sure sign that the crew likes working with you when they mess with you during the out take.😂
@geoffreygreen297 haha Bo and I are good buddies, he has helped me grow a bunch in this industry and I hope I've helped him some too. I always love a good day working for him.
That's pretty scary almost having the ropes come down on your lanyard. Thank God it caught on the wood for ya! Good reminder for the rest of us to watch out for that too! Love the controlled speed line. Was perfect for that without having a crane.
Me too. I'm very thankful the Lord protected me from some more serious disaster there. I should have given that more attention. Definitely some that woukd have been better to prevent than solve 😬😅
How cool!!!! You always amaze me at what you can do!!! Be safe, and be careful!!! God Bless!!!!!❤
@grannyshell5425 Thank you! I'll definitely be careful and I 100% believe God will take care of me in the stuff I can't prepare for.
That I bet was a fun job ! Engineering a job like that is what I find most gratifying about being a climber!
@randyshaffersr.785 absolutely man! Figuring out a good rigging system and then watching it work is definitely my favorite part too.
@@zaccheus zaccheus have you ever used a spider leg on a limb ?
@@randyshaffersr.785 I used to do it a bunch, then I got a GRCS
4:06. I’m really glad to hear you say “growing phototrophically out this way”…I have been having arguments with coworkers (and bosses) for YEARS that trees like that aren’t “leaning” (implying some sort of defective growth or weak roots and/or structure)…the trees have grown that way in their search for sun and the fact that they are not perfectly vertical does not mean they are inherently weaker/compromised.
@johns3106 absolutely, if they grew that way, that also grew the appropriate root system and reaction wood to support the the tree where it is.
Both you Guys Kick Ass! That tree was the real deal! And i agree on what you said about, "We were rushing and We were Tired!" Thats just asking for trouble. Its amazing what a good night sleep will do for the body and the mind the next day!
@johnsmith-wd5sq Aw, thanks, man! Absolutely, we only have so many good decisions in a given day. Sometimes it's just best to wait
@@zaccheusmany top leaders in their respective fields mention Decision Fatigue often. Sometimes you just gotta take a break or call it a day when our judgement begins to lapse.
@factsoveremotions6035 decision fatigue. I've never heard it called that, but thays exactly what it is!
Very nice presentation Zach, that radio voice is really the icing on the cake 😃 nice to see your channel doing well. I’ll be reaching out to you on instagram with an idea. Work safe brother.
Haha thanks Kevin!
Whew! Glad all of you handled that scary job perfectly. 🙌
Thanks!
I watched the whole thing I was right there with you, I can almost feel the tree moving really good content thank you very much yeah I really enjoy , has been really interesting and ingrossing.
@oscartheg6674 That's awesome Oscar! I try hard to bring as much of the experience as I can to the viewer so I really appreciate that feedback!
Excellent
Another great Zach Attack video, showing us how Zach wood take care of those trees! He’s really branching out! Believe it or knot. That young man’s got strong roots… ok time for me to leaf. 😂
@@factsoveremotions6035 😂😂😂😂 well played
Nice to see and hear the 201 back on the job. 👍
@edm3397 You bet! I think the 201 will always be my default climbing saw. The electric saws are getting better and have their place, but I'll never not enjoy a good 201 day.
Sorry to many coments. But wana see how tie it higher dosent matter. Just seems gets more momentem before can control a piece. But often wrong. Great vids
The key to it all is that it doesn't fall any further base on where you tie the rope.
Very cool acender. Thanx
Awesome job AND awesome editing!
@paulkelly1702 Thanks, Paul!
Great job buddy has always very nice work very nice setup amazing job question for you why didn't the customer move that trailer and you could have backed the chipper in right there and just lowered everything right to that point
@br-dj2ti Thanks, Bill! We did move the trailer by hand after the first branch or two. Since there was such a long run and the speedline rope was so heavy (200' of 5/8") we wanted lots of room to run the mini skid back and forth for tensioning the speedline. That's why we kept the chipper back away a little.
@@zaccheus I got you buddy thank you so much God bless stay safe buddy great job
Question for you buddy when them ropes on that last piece of brush on the one side almost came across your lanyard in the situation where the ropes would have came across your lanyard what would have been the best situation for you to do I'm just curious thank you buddy God bless
@br-dj2ti oooo, I'm not even sure. Definitely a bad scenario. I had two other ropes on so I probably woukd have had to disconnect my lanyard and deal with it from there. No matter what, it wpukd have not been fun.
@@zaccheus yeah I know buddy I was thinking about that I've had it happen one time to me with one rope but not three and it was not fun
That outro was funny! Good job on a sketchy removal!
@@earndoggy thanks!
Am I the only one who wishes there wasn't any music?
Aw I'm sorry Mary. You're probably not the only one. We put it in there to avoid dead audio time. We try to keep the volume low so it doesn't interrupt the more important audio like speaking and such.
@zaccheus Hey, it's your videos. I just watch many videos during the day, and too much music bothers me. But that is my issue. Yes, it is low, but I'd prefer the wind in the leaves and the birds chirping. If there are any. Lol.
You are the only one in all the videos who respond to me. I appreciate that.
You do what you do, and I will still watch and worry about you as if you are my grandson up there in those trees.
@marymulrooney1334 Haha I appreciate your concern 😊 I figure if someone is willing to share their thoughts with me, it's the least I can do to thank them. If I never replied, I'd have much less opportunity to learn something new. You're definitely not the only one to comment about music. Maybe I'll make one without and see how it turns out.
Great job brother
Thanks Todd!
Great job guy's thanks for sharing 👍
Think a static speed line would have been better?
@jeffschroeder9089 You probably know the answer to that better than I. I know August recommends a static line. I think using the machine as the anchor might have helped, but static or dynamic, the both shpuld require the same amount if tension force to support the load in the middle of the line, right? A static line wouldn't have reduced the load on the tree I don't think. Please share your thoughts if you think otherwise.
@@zaccheus it would have kept the branch up higher but probably would have been harder on the spar
@jeffschroeder9089 I gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks for sharing, Jeff!
Really thorough, knowledgeable videos…. Thx
@@Saymyenameyo thanks!
What a great tool, motorized winch
Souper nice work guys 💯
You boys do some awsome work…🫲. Age is gettin me and bout every job I look at I’m thinkin lifts….wish I had you to do the climbin and me do the rope work on my big red oak over the house…not that tall just gettin wide and it’s basically touchin the house..I’ve kept it for the roots holdin my hill back and shade too
@charlesmullins3238 ooo touching definitely isn't good. Do you think a little end reduction would do the trick or do you plan tr remove the whole thing? It sounds like a keeper if you can.
@@zaccheus your thoughts went straight to mine…end weight is my exact plan of attack
@charlesmullins3238 thats great! I take down so many big beautiful oak trees next to houses because folks are concerned about them coming down. I wish I could convince them to let them stay, but I'm just the contract climber and the decision is almost always made before I get there 🤷♂️
@@zaccheus know it to well…made a woman cry after talkin her outta topping her big pin oak out front on a nice street for all to see. Took 7 s10 truck&trailer loads out of it takin out droopers and handsawing for light in the canopy plus a bunch of hacks done the neighbors like she thought she wanted so she got a perfect contrast of what it woulda looked like..
@@charlesmullins3238 oh nooo 😂 poor lady
Ughh, just used this on a job. I think it's my third time. I just had an epiphany. I think a lot of time is lost in the lowering due to speedline sling. A little friction is your friend while speedlining, but during a controlled speedline (slowline) I think a trolley or any sort of pulley would really help. I bet a dmm rigger pulley would be awesome for this application. We had a 20" hackberry between two garages. The garage roofs were 22" apart. The other direction was power lines. The other big hangup is the crew, when the next piece is ready you have to get everyone back in position
We started out using a block, we were loosing too much time getting it back to the climber. Speedlines are just slow in general. They have their place, but they're not super fast
Enjoyed the video. I'm thinking I'd avoid that controlled speed line and opt for a line going over to the left hillside through a block anchored maybe 10' in a solid tree running to the machine....letting the trees brake the limbs as they slide from the top. Hard for me to say exactly, not being on site to view the whole scene. I just didn't care for the long controlled line. JMHO
@havespurswillclimb Thats a for consideration! Controlled speedlines just take so much time. Doesn't seem like they should, but they do. Only things I can think of thay might have been reason to avoid a trad speedline would be the temperature of the carsbiners and clearance over the fence. Maybe being off to the left there woukd have avoided the fence though. Thanks for sharing your ideas, I really enjoy hearing other perspectives than my own.
Respect bita strane on it. But mint.
I’m curious about the dropping load comment with negative rigging. Hope to hear you explain it in another video.
@dancutting8940 Sure thing! I've really be looking for an opportunity to put it to the test with a load cell, but it's really really hard to find a repeatable situation to test both methods in. I'll definitely talk about the theory again sometime soon and keep my eye out for an opportunity to test
Mmmmm! Ice cream therapy!
Hey Z (or anyone else for that matter), I noticed you using an Oregon bar with the husky battery saw. What are the specs on that bar and chain? The bars that come with that saw seem to get bent easily. Great videos!
@gail0010 Maybe someone else can answer better. That wasn't my saw, it belonged to the fella that I worked for that day. I'm pretty sure it's the Oregon speed cut nano kit. I'm personally nit a huge fan because it's a special pitch and there are no full chisel chain options in that pitch.
Haha not worth. It can cut it n move it
You can’t beet a good groundie! Mine just let his first one run and he did great for his fit time ! Just doing it is possibly the best way to learn, it’s a little nerving for the climber!
@randyshaffersr.785 Haha absolutely! Everyone has to start somewhere! I work with a variety of skill levels on the ground and I've learned that you have to climb for the skill on the ground.
❗❗warning this is a trained professional don't try this at home❗❗
@@evanvandeusen9573 😂
Dude is that pokemon music that you play over the video? Sounds just like it lol
@@JohnWheelerptv haha I don't think it is 😅
I see you caught my cameo appearance!
@osagejon8972 Hahah, you bet!
Nice tool what's the weight rating on it not that you ever see wide asses high up in a tree. Safety is number one in a long career .......
@user-vo9ge7cj7u absolutely! Max load is 440lb according to the website it was purchased from. hownot2.com/products/z2r?_pos=2&_sid=cb5878f47&_ss=r
Maybe a pulley on the sling just bit less friction. But nice n yer gota be safe. Cheers
We did start out with a pulley but it was such a hassle to get the pulley back to the climber for every cycle
Man that drill ascender is $1,599 sheeesh I will just climb lol
@Saymyenameyo haha it's in pricey. And you still have to buy a drill! It still the cheapest lowered ascender put there by far though.
@@zaccheus yea I would definitely use one if I had it but too pricey for me
The second cut he made... was that all poison ivy?
@@joemacdonald8221 nah, just elm sprouts. It does kinda look like it though huh
Happy to see you again Great work Respect
Thank you Hans!
the next thing you need to invest in, is an helicopter 🤩👌
@nicolaisvlog8701 haha, I'm going to have to climb a lot of trees to make the millions needed to pay for that 😂 you can rent utility helicopters just like you can rent cranes. I think I've heard of quotes more than $60k for a three hour minimum 😬
Wow!❤
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Nothing like a controlled speed line some branches looked like may have been easier to send them down flat one on tip one on butt but awesome video
@brandon-rustystreecare I thought about sending some that way. We also struggled a little bit woth rope paths and I was afraid of that making things more complex
@@zaccheus i get it
Being messed with during outro= good outro
@@robertwilliamson6958 haha thanks 😊
did you ever cut into your safety rope by mistake?
@SaoPauloNX I've pulled some strands out with the handsaw before, but I've never cut it through. I have been shocked through a steel core flipline when I was working over a pasture fence though 😬😂
What size bar is on your saw?😊😊😊😊😊
I'm not sure what size was on the battery saw. I think the 500i had a 32" bar and my 201 had a 16" bar
How do you get rid of the whole stump is that an extra coast?
Stump grinding is traditionally an extra cost. In this case, it was good ti leave the stump intact because it wasn't an inconvenience to anyone and the root system will help prevent erosion until smaller trees can start helping.
A day without bouncing is a good day! Blessings
what pants are those man?
@arbolorian Arborwear Dogwood! Definitely the lightest chainsaw pant I've ever worn. I haven't had them long enough to comment on their longevity. I have heard both good and bad so it might kinda depend on just how hard you are on them.
What region are most of these trees in?
This was in north east Ohio
From the thumbnail, I thought it was the use of a chipper in close proximity to ropes that had you scared! I'm sure the camera doesn't do justice to the amount of movement. Slopes and hills have a hard time showing a true representation on screen.
@bioniclife haha, well a long time ago, I did have someone feed a speedline into the chipper.
No it does, I do my best to capture it, but it still doesn't tell the whole story
Cool job nice work 👍
@@dankotos61 thanks Dan!
What a challenge. Very happy to see on day 1 y'all knew when to call it quits. Not worth not having a day 2. Isn't this the property where you worked on the hill on the other end of the house? mud splashed on the windows? Really appreciate all the explanations. If the music was to disappear it would not make your videos less enjoyable to watch. As always, stay safe buddy!
@ClellWise Thanks for your thoughts as always, Clell. This was a different property than the one where I hit the house with mud. Funny enough both houses have the same color steel on the roof though! Good memory!
Hi Zach, even though this was a tough job it made for a great video. I really liked that you had two view from working up in the tree and then the view from working on the ground as well.
We usually think of a Zip line for entertainment to fly high over the terrain so it was interesting to see it used for tree limbs instead.
It would have made your life a little easier if the customer didn't have that Medal fence as you had to cut some of the branches to maneuver over the fence. The customer meant well to try as assist you get the branch over the fence.
It must have been interesting to get the larger pieces of trunk out of the wooded area and cut up and taken out.
Thanks to Bo for going up to cut in the tree so we could have the view of the operation from on the ground.
How long does it usually take you to setup all of the ropes to do a job like this safely?
Thanks Zach for creating these videos and filming when it would be easier not to have to deal with a camera.
@benburns5995 The metal fence was definitely a fragile obstacle to avoid. It was easier for us to avoid it than take it down though.
I'm sure he meant well, but I coukd afford the chance of him getting hurt.
Setup definitely took longer than I wanted it to. I can say how long, but it was too long
Probably could have used one more groundie in the middle to work the fence area. Nice work with the rigging never seen that before
@NickTaylor-lm1lv One more fella certainly wouldnt have hurt! I think the only branches we had to deal with in that green space were those two in the videos so it wasn't too bad.
I love it! And to think I spent $3200 on my wrapter! And it’s so bulky compared to that ! Can I pry and ask what it cost and who did u get it from
@randyshaffersr.785 Of course, I'd be happy to share. They are $1,600 and the only place I know thay sells them is this website: hownot2.com/products/z2r?_pos=2&_sid=191d869f2&_ss=r
You are supposed to use it with a separate line for life support and I think I'll do that next time becaise it is a challenge to take off of the rope whole your up in the tree. But it's real handy for getting up quick!
I bought a Z2R and love it. I did a video on how I set mine up. Took me along time to get dialed in but it works great.
Take a secondary climb line up with you to climb on when you get to the top. After you’re tied in then just lower the whole Z2R system down together so you don’t have to dismantle it in the tree. Also, put a lanyard on the drill.
Great work💪🏼🌲
@timbermen11 Oh thats great! I definitely plan on using two ropes next time. It was a hassle to deal with up there. I do have a lanyard on the drill it's just behind my arm.
@@zaccheus I didn’t see the lanyard on your drill. My bad.
Been watching you from the beginning and always admire your work ethic and how humble you are. Keep up the good work dude
@timbermen11 Not a problem, I really shpuod have made an effort to include it. It is an important part of the kit. Thanks man!
Your job beats a boring 9 to 5 any day . Lot more interesting at least to me.😀 Jim's wood shop.
@jimschaffer9831 Thanks, Jim. I think a lot of climbers are in this industry because they love it. My love for climbing is definitely what brought me here.
Anyone else ever find bullets in the the holding wood?!? Pretty epic ending to a good video demonstrating speed lining tree removal
@Grinch0685 It was a first experience for me! Thanks man!
Where did you get the drill ascender from? Looks just the ticked for us oldies...🙂
@@alasdairneilson1641 hownot2.com/products/z2r?_pos=2&_sid=191d869f2&_ss=r
This is the only place I know of that sells them. They're still kinda pricey. I'm hoping they'll get cheaper if someone starts competing with them.
@@zaccheus Thanks mate, I only started tree work last year age 63. All your videos are great and well explained for the unexperienced first timers.... Keep up the great content pal...👍
@alasdairneilson1641 That's awesome man, keep it up! Please let me know about any questions you have about anything in the videos. I often forget about what parts are important for someone getting into the trade.
Thanks pal I will, it looks a bit expensive for now.... But safety has no price, thanks for sharing your wisdom Zac....👍
@alasdairneilson1641 It does come with a pretty hefty price. I'm afraid it's still the most cost effective powered ascender out there though.
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I love watching these videos, thanks for making them :). I live in japan and I can't help but wonder how much more difficult it would be if the trees were covered in Kuzu vines.. Over hear there are so many giant vines laced between trees some as thick as 15 cm. I wonder if it would make it unpredictable when you are cutting limbs off if they are connected to other trees by one or multiple vines....
@petersvideofile you're absolutely right. I don't have to deal with too many vines. Fellas who work to the south of me have a lot more vines to deal with. Thankfully, lawn trees are more likely to be vine free, but it still happens.
@@zaccheus Thanks so much for your reply. I just had a wild idea, how cool would a arborist tree felling simulator game be with semi-relistic tree physics. I'm in no position to make it happen, but it just seems like the kind of niche game that could get a cult following given how many people watch these videos. You could have a whole system where you use the money to buy new equipment and such, and get graded on how well you did the job, how risky your attack plan was, I wonder if it would be possible for someone to make such a game. I see there are some forestry sim games but the tree felling portion seems pretty basic, I think swinging around in the tree choosing where to cut the various limbs would be the fun part. I'm just trying to imagine the "speed runs" people would do now :)
@petersvideofile thats honestly a brilliant idea. I don't know enough about game marketing to have any idea if it would sell well, but it sure would be fun to mess around with!
@@zaccheus yeah me neither I'm going to suggest it to my friend who makes games and see what he thinks. I think the best possible incarnation of the game would be a vr game like the rock climbing game for occulus rift game the climb, just add a chain saw and rigging and what not. I think the complexity of the game would be quite high though, and you'de have to have a good non-vr mode too to be able to sell enough copies. I'm just imagining the ability to tune weather (wind, etc) and also add elements like rotted wood, etc. I'll let you know if my friend thinks there's any market for it, although I doubt he has the budget or man power to do it.
@petersvideofile There woukd definitely be a lot of physics to factor in. If he needs help woth the tree work side of it, I'd be happy to help as much as I can.
Z2-r is 1600 bucks
I see what you mean about expensive equipment😮
@deadmanswife3625 yeah and it's far from the most expensive powdered ascender. I filmed one at a trade show that was $5k
@@zaccheus mercy 😱
@@deadmanswife3625 it's terrible
Those battery saws sure are nice! Reeeeeeeeeowww Reow!
Man I wish I could hire you to get the 40 ft pecans out from over my house. Some limbs are almost level, some 45 degrees and some almost 15 degrees from being strait up.
@RC-Heli835 They really are! It's so handy to not have to start a saw while in the tree. It might take a little looking, but you might be able to find a contract climber in your area that can do the job a little cheaper than a tree service if you're able to handle the clean up 🤷♂️
The tree is so big with the limbs so far apart and everything spread out. A crane would be nice.
Its like 3.5 feet from the house.
The bucket truck I have borrowed is still not back up and running I've spent 300 bucks on it.
I did get the PTO working yesterday but now there is a bad hydraulic leak. I think some filters and an O ring just might do the trick. I just don't know that I should continue using it when I get it going again.
Its been 20 feet over the house since 2 Satdy's ago.
@RC-Heli835 oh nooo, that's sounds rough. Seems like old bucket trucks end up sticking around long after they should have been retired. Maybe give it back to the owner and rent a towable lift?
@@zaccheus Yea its a 96 GMC Topkick with a versalift shv36. Its a good truck but the folks who bought it from my nephew in law don't keep it up. I think your right about handing it back over though cuz I feel somewhat responsible for something I've borrowed. 100 hydraulic line, 200 dollar brake relay 50 bucks worth of hydro filters and 12v relay tonight.
I love a bucket thought I could enjoy that a while.
@RC-Heli835 ugh, those old gm truck are hard to find parts for too. A lot of aftermarket stuff has filled in, but they're still a pain to work on. Sounds like you've already spent more than a rental lift costs 😬
Gooooood morning
@groundpounder24365 goodmorning GP!
Please give up tree work. I think you have used up all your luck.
@@jonathanbrocklehurst6724 you are out of your mind! Absolutely crazy.
Lol, if I relied on luck, I'd be dead a long time ago as luck does not exist.
@@zaccheus I think you have it back to front. If luck didn't exist you would have been dead long ago. Your commentary suggests how often you have been wrong in an assumption in a game where one wrong assumption can be fatal. Maybe you like to push the boundaries or maybe having your focus divided into working and describing it makes it difficult. Don't get me wrong I like the content I just worry about your safety.
@jonathanbrocklehurst6724 I appreciate your concern. It is a dangerous industry. Every decision is based on a number of assumptions as not a single thing in this trade is certain. Assumptions get better and more accurate with experience and I do have plenty more experience to gain. However, I will always stand by the fact that luck is a fairytale invention by the Irish and supported by people who are afraid of an authoritative higher power. There are a few times that I've been closer to death than I am comfortable with. All of them out of my direct control. I will never credit my survival to a fairytale.
@@zaccheus more power to ya buddy. Keep safe and keep having fun.
if a branch is leaning to the side, you don't have to make a smile cut... it's enough to cut 1/3 of the branch and then back cut. it's faster and you save battery or gas :) but certainly respect for the work done :)
@radovanflexvidacic9410 Thanks man. You're absolutely right. I typically still stick to a notch and back cut when I want the branch to rotate so that the tips are down and the butt is up. Ideally that rotation wpuld reduce dynamic forces, but it might be a negligible amount 🤷♂️
@@zaccheus when the branches are smaller, I don't think there is any danger, they will certainly turn.
@radovanflexvidacic9410 of course, it was a matter of stuff getting tangled when we hung it on the blue rope and everything was thrashing around. When you have two tether points, it just introduces more slack to tangle up. I probably should have tried it to be honest. I just wasn't feeling it. Which isn't a good reason.
@@zaccheus I try my best in this job, I started 6-7 years ago and I'm doing well... sometimes I just have to cut a branch so that it literally breaks, sometimes I have to smile cut and so on... just try it when you have branches that are leaning only lower cut and another one from above... :) if it's okay, I expect greetings in the next clip :)