Audiophile Interconnect cables that won't break the bank
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- In this episode we are going to explore the best #Hi-Fi #audiophile #interconnect RCA cables that have a real life price tag subdivided in 3 groups: Basic, Mid and Top interconnects
1) BASIC
- Oyaide Neo D+ Series (Class B): www.neo-w.com/english/d-class-...
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2) MID
- Oyaide Neo D+ Series (Class A): www.neo-w.com/english/d-rca-se...
Ricable Primus: www.ricable.com/en/prodotto/p...
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- Ramm Audio Elite 7: Very hard to find now!
3) TOP
- Oyaide Neo D+ Series (Class S): www.neo-w.com/english/d-rca-se...
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AMAZON UK: amzn.to/2MFSatY
AMAZON IT: amzn.to/2IJ6v7A
- Arcadia MKII 1877Phono Zavfino:
zavfinousa.com/
www.zavfino1877.com/
Hello!
I got a suggestion to all, if you’re interested.
Take your favorite RCA cables and use an RCA to 1/4” adapter jacks in those cables. Either you or someone you know with a electric guitar, use those cables as a guitar cable. On a clean sound, not distortion, play the guitar through your cable and listen to the change in tone, clarity, noise, volume, EQ, and whatever you notice.
Whatever sounds best as a guitar cable with sound best as an interconnect cable.
It works. It’s easier to hear the low end, midrange, and treble.
No joke, seriously it works!
For myself, Mogami 2524 is still my baseline to judge all unbalanced cables.
Interesting!
Oyaide are absolutely great. Their "highest end" cables - are substantially great.
I've listened critically to a dozen or more interconnect cables, and a viewer on my channel suggested the purple colored Oyaide Class S, and I found them to be the cleanest and clearest cable I have heard, although I believe this cable has been discontinued, and I was buying the last ones the suppliers had in stock.
Bro flat cables gave a flashy sound but it gets tiring after some time
@@IDontExist14 Of course that experience depends entirely on the rest of the system in question. With my system, I found that to be true with Audioquest Ruby cable I purchased in '05. The Oyaide cables actually fixed the problem. You really have to match the components together, just as a speaker manufacturer has to match the various drivers and crossover components together to attain the target tonal character.
Thank you. You really help from a newbies perspective. Ha-ha. 51 and still learning. Love it.
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Thank you for the awesome and unique information. Very helpful.
I just received today the Oyaide Class S, looks very well built - thanks for the suggestion!
Update: Sound test: SO here's de looooong version... I was looking for a good IC cable to replace my CD-PRE actual cable which is too short for the rearrangement I did on the layout of my audio equipment, so based on your video I ordered the Class S 2 meter cable... long enough. So a couple of hours ago when I posted the comment above I thought it would be a better idea to replace not the CD cable but the TT to phono stage cable which was the "poorest quality", "stock" cable that was bundled with my Technics SL1210GR - BAD IDEA!!! I was in panic, a terrible interference noise in the line, volume at zero... WTF???? this is terrible! huge regrets buying this cable, where does this all come? I measured impedance of the cable, I knew this shouldn´t be a problem, so it had to be with shielding? or the absense of, so people be warned! So I changed my old CD cable to the TT, it was fine, no "noise", and fitted the Oyade on the CD-PRE... Bottom line: I think my ignorance, I should never have used a 2m cable between the TT and the phono preamp, I guess; and the oyade Class S on my CD is fantastic, dark background and fantastic clarity, a noticeable improvement! Huuuffhhhh... :-)
Update 2: Revisited the subject, don´t really convinced with my experimentation above. So I put the Oyaide on the Phono-Preamp (instead of TT-Phono) and its great, quiet and with excellent dynamics and clarity, very very good. So I pull back my comments on the shielding, maybe something else was messing and/or is really the lenght/sensitivity of the connection that was making the interference - happy now, thanks!
Cool! Happy it worked out!
Thanks Paulo for your comments, you saved my life! I've been on a constant headache since yesterday, when I connected my 1200GR to my phono stage with a 2m Neo d+ class S cable (and the phono stage to the amp with an 1m of the same brand and class). Some months ago I saw this video and since then this cable was my choice till yesterday that I could purchase a set of 1m and 2m. Once my soundsystem was connected, a horrible background noise was present, just what happened to you. I felt so miserable and stupid for wasting so much money in useless over hyped cables...! But some minutes after reading your comments, I have changed the cables (1m for TT-phono Stage and 2m for Phono stage-amp) and voilà! The noise is gone! I must say this cable is really good, however, I think the connector jacks are not properly isolated because still a very low hum is audible if I raise (very high) the volume. On the other hand, something tells that there's no a big leap between class S and A, which is much cheaper.... Thank you, thank you for healing my hi-fi paranoia!
great reviews on the various cables, thank you
Thanks!
Great recommendations. Just tried class s interconnects with d+ class a usb to great effect!
All my life I used Oelbach and Cordial cables to connect the entire range of audio equipments in my studio. Both Oelbach and Cordial makes very high quality, no nonsense, practical cables and I never had any issues with them either in the studio on in the field.
Great video. Decisions decisions... thank you
I admit Ricable Primus RCA interconnect is far better than others I own (rca to rca) in the same price range. The sound is more smooth without losing details. I'm also very Happy with Supracable EFF-XLR and the phono cable from the same brand.
I enjoyed this vid. It was clearly described and very understandable. Thank you
Thanks for another of your excellent videos. BTW, in Canada we make Hi-end audiophile electronic too.
This was a much-needed video and Mr. 'Anadialog ' did a great job. Most audiophile reviewers shy away from this subject because it is highly controversial and can be overwhelming because there is so many options to choose from. This video is very practical and honest and comes from a true audiophile and someone who probably spent $$$$ (way too much) searching for the right cables. So, I want to thank you (on behalf of all your audience and myself) for being so bold as to come out and pick a few favorites for us. We owe you, man! As a Canadian, I am impressed we have a good cable in the Zavfino (I never heard of it)! But, as human nature goes, I want to try the imported Italian cables (and the Italians probably want the imported Canadian cables). I am also impressed that I already own 2 pairs of Oyaide ClassA (orange) cables. The truth is I threw out so many cables (including expensive Cardas, etc) but I kept these based on the sound quality - I truly liked the sound I was getting from the Oyaide cables - so I was very impressed when these cables were selected for this video. Thanks again!
Wow Tony, thanks for such a nice, hearted and honest comment. Cables are always a problem but after putting out videos on how to do them by your own I felt it was time to take a side and give some suggestions. Yes, you definitely need to check out your Zavfino cables...the technology involved is outstanding! Haha! It is very true...we always look for the imported piece of gear or something rare.
Thank you Tony for expressing how, im sure, many of us feel. Thanks mr. A
Was gonna turn you off, until I saw Hendrix “Bold as Love” behind you. Now you’re one of my top guys!
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Great video my friend ,as always ,and these are great prices ,will do some research on them many thanks as always 😊😊😊
I use Oyaide neo and are very well made looking cables.
I use Infinite Cables in Canada. Their Phantom line is of amazing quality for the price and the build quality is simply top shelf. They can essentially make whatever type of cable you require in any length and termination.
Cool! Are they OCC?
Awesome…awesome…. Love it.
The Arcadia is a solid cable and won't break the bank, thanks !
Wonderful and very detailed review. Thank you so much brother for sharing your most honest and humble opinions.🙏🙏💗 Watching from Sweden.
If you decide not to make cables, Mogami cables are very good and not too expensive
Good info. I'm going to give the Zafino a try.
Good! Let us know the results...!
Yeah, Rich, how did it go?
Hmm, after your first video, I chose a set of Oyaide PA-02TR interconnect cables (used) for 75 euros a set. Really nice! Thanks for that tip! They look more mainstream with a very Japanese pink/purple colour..
Excellent choice...PC-OCC + teflon insulation = can't go wrong!
ANA[DIA]LOG True! They sound a tad warm which I like.. But SO much detail and SO smooth. I love it!
I picked up a couple of Morrow Audio's interconnects and have been very happy with them. My old cables were Blue Jeans which are well made but IMO the morrow's sound better, I got them on sale for $35 for a 1/2 meter pair..
I picked up some solid silver excellent solid furuwaka rca type interconnects 75 quid direct from China. These cables wud be at least 650in UK. they sound very rich detailed loud clear real. Did the same with cables and valve phono stage. This shit cost me 500 quid. 2500 if u go thru money grabbing con men dealers etc in uk
I have been using the Oyaide class B and class A cables for a year or so now, they are the best cables I have... I do not have a ton of expensive ones, honestly I just stopped looking after I found these. I also use their USB cables. To my ears they have distinctly different sounds. The class B is warmer, more musical, the class A ones are very refined Japanese style sound. For my current setup the class B stuff is my favorite, often I use the class A from the transistor only outs from my DAC, and the class B from the Tube output of the DAC. Technical accurate clean and pure for the class A and the soul of Tubes with the class B was my setup with a different set of speeakers, right now it's all the class B. So you can move it around, change things up.
Good to see you are enjoying these cables!
Thank you
The best reason to spend the money for decent cables isn't about how they "sound." It's about durability, corrosion resistance, and connection security. The give-away cables we get boxed with consumer hi-fi gear are often pretty bad in durability and connection terms, but they rarely corrode (at least visibly) and they carry the signal. In short, they work until they stop working, and if they get manipulated a lot, they tend to stop working. I buy a variety of oxygen-free copper RCA interconnects in the $30-50 range for my primary system with, for me, expensive components. For everything else, a step up from in-the-box is good enough. For basic use, I build my own speakers cables using oxygen-free 16 or 14-ga single element primary wire, a black one and a red one, running together through a braided polyethylene sleeve. It's inexpensive, durable, and perfectly workable.
I have the Oyaide class b cable for USB connection. Great. 26 € in Germany by Amazon.
Great video! I have the Oyaide Neo d + RCA class S rev.2 cables and it outperforms(greater transparency) my homemade RCA cables which I made costing me about $200 in raw materials(using Oyaide & Furutech parts). Would like to add that I am using the Oyaide Neo d class S with a Chord DAVE, it is that good.
Thanks for the recommendation! I will try the Arcadia cables once I move back to Canada(currently living in Japan).
The only negative part of the Arcadia are the connectors unfortunately very loose...
@@anadialog That's unfortunate, it might be possible to gently bend the outer teeth part of the connector inwards to help tighten the connection.
Just bought the Zavfina Arcadia's , Awesome!
Just added some Nova speaker cable aswell👍🏼👍🏼
I am currently using the Oyaide Neo d+ class S USB cable for my Esoteric D-02 DAC. I personally don’t believe digital cables make that much of difference but I do like their products. Excellent build quality, great product design plus reasonable prices of entry-level products. Also they have a neet little showa-style electrical parts store in Akihabara which I often visit.
Akiba is like an ultra workout program for my wallet. I arrive in Japan with a George Costanza special full of 10,000yen notes and leave with a mid 90's Kate Moss.
SKW now has "Audiophiles RCA Cable" interconnects that are OCC/6N (single crystal copper), and around the same prices as the Oyaide Class B cables. They sound (imho) super clear and detailed, but without sounding dry or cold... allowing warmth to come through--but not adding any.
Hello! I love the channel and listening to your passion about Hifi and have learned so much! Thanks for sharing your info! Would these cables that you’ve recommended here work just as well in car audio as well for a 6-12 ft long run? I’m really thinking about trying the ramm elite 7 or oyaide neo S series for my truck installation going from my headunit preamp to my digital signal processor via analog rca interconnects
Thanks!
Of course, go ahead and give us your feedback. All three are great choices.
here in Québec, Canada, we have also the cable brand Bis Audio, very good too.
I have to confirm, the Arcadia MK II si an excellent cable.
I usually stick to QED cables. They have different tiers also like d+, I usually stay in the performance - reference range. Built and work really well. I do have a Neo d+ B class also which does the job. (Thankfully Oyaide does hard to find configurations like 1/4 inch to phono like you showed).
Having sold cables for 20 plus years. More is spent on packaging than the cable at retail. Also Chinese cables are fine also but the quality varies and corners are cut. You need to align yourself with a brand that has quality assurance. Example Kimber or Audio Quest or Wire world. Note cable margins at retail are 80 to 125 percent.
I agree...that is why one of my first videos was DIY: ua-cam.com/video/u3EPL6hI_H4/v-deo.html
But for those without time or skill I wanted to suggest a few good purchases IMHO
Thank you
do u think that thickness makes difference ?
@@audiophilipp no. not for the short distance of those cables (1-3 m)
I just picked up a audioquest black lab subwoofer cable that said it used what they called long grain copper, it was a 3 meter cable and it ran me about 50 us.
Hey, they're no longer available. Is there a newer generation?
The idea is to keep the set-up evenly balanced! If it's a mediocre setup well one may as well as go with mediocre cables but if what happens to have a quality setup IMO quality cables are a must.
Quality cables doesn't make the system sound better but what it does do is provide the path for the system to sound its best.
Best thing I ever did was take the punt and swap my £45 audioquest black lab RCA's the more expensive chord shawline RCA's. It was if I was hearing my stereo Rel subwoofers for the first time.
I'll probably make mine (you have a video). This way I know I used good materials but don't feel bad for spending tons of money.
I agree...if you have some skill and time it's the best and more rewarding way to go!
Excellent video Thank You!
A little more advice please. If I'm looking to brighten my slightly warm tube system, which of the two "top-group" cables would you recommend, between the "Oyaide Neo D+ Series Class S" OR the "Zavifino Arcadia OCC." Thanks again for any assistance you can provide. Best regards!
Well, if you need that kind of correction maybe I would look for a good, but not TOTL, silver cable. When perfectly engineered silver does not sound bright, but "normal" silver cables tend to do that...no brand preference
@@anadialog Thanks for your quick response. Yeah, I had heard that too, but TOTL silver can be cost prohibitive. I’ll see what are my options in a short 1m length. Thanks again & keep making great content!👍👌
do you think the class A is worth the extra money form the class B? what do you think about mogami cables like the 2549 for analog interconnects ?
Yes I do because I am firmly convinced that OCC copper does make a difference, which other brands like Mogami don't have.
Like the flat cables it’s known to help!
Indeed!
@@anadialog Thanks guys
Audiophile Interconnect cables that won't break the bank ? Ugreen :)
lol
$30-$40 cables are a pretty fair return on investment. I have been using Audioquest Evergreens and they easily sound better than the crummy red/white ones you get when you buy a component. The only way I'll ever spend more is if I need balanced connections for something.
Balanced connections due to their nature just work better. Hence, you do not need to invest as much as unbalanced...in any case look always for OCC copper and possibly teflon insulation...top high end cables mainly use that!
@@anadialog true. Thanks for the additional info as I had never seen nor heard of the Japanese company mentioned and will certainly give them a try also, everyone gets a fair shot when they are priced this well.
How would the basic option compare to the Schiit PYST? Short so good for gear that's stacked, and great price.
Oyaide is one of the top hifi brands. All its products are extremely high quality. I suggest to go at least OCC copper but even the basic ones are pretty good. I do not have experience with Pyst but to me they seem very simple interconnects with no high quality materials. Then might as well go with a standard good Amazon basics cable or Ugreen IMHO.
This video just cost me $145!!! Just had to get the $70 Oyaide Class A RCA Interconnect for Suwoofer Cable and the $54 Oyaide 3.5 mm to RCA Class B Cable after seeing this video !
🤣🤣🤣 give us some feedback! The good and the bad, no problem!
Do you have a preference between the Ramm or the Zavfino? Trying to find a neutral to warm sounding cable.
I would go Neotech. It’s the only cable I buy when I don’t do mine. The Zavfino is excellent but the RCA cables have terrible connectors and I am not sure it is truly occ copper after what happened with SKW. The xlr are better but still no occ certification
@@anadialogI am leaning towards the OCC copper variant. Neotech has a bunch of different conductor options for OCC. Is it the 3001 that you recommend? My use would be between my integrated amp and my DAC.
What is your current favorite speaker cable in the $300-$500 range?
Good to hear that somebody open the subject on the so called "can of worms" about cables. They do make a difference but are system dependent I feel. I noticed that all your cables were very heavy shielded with Teflon and/or plastics. Do try Anti-cables from the US. A completelyI different approach. I buy them second hand to get an acceptable price. The only shielding on them are an ultra-thin red laquer. I believe that the capacitance is close to non-existing. It's just air around them..
Improvement from my old high priced plastic cables were : better soundstage, better bass, clearer vocals. My Forte 3's became even more Klpsch-like and forward with these cables.
Here we also try to find a reason behind the debate: ua-cam.com/video/63DjmnemI4s/v-deo.html
What is the quality of the connection like for the B+ and the A? I usually like to use locking type connectors because they tend to feel more secure and less likely to just fall out from stress against corners~
Great quality IMO....not too tight like neotech not too lose like zapfino
Shout out to Zafino! Great quality, good range.
As RCA interconnect câble, Wich one between the Oyaide d class serie class B OR the SKW Audiophiles Câble RCA 2RCA ? I am a new customer in the hifi . Excuse my poor english…i am from Québec City.
Oyaide D+ class S or any OCC copper interconnects possibly with teflon (ptfe) insulation!
Awesome!!! Could you please do a similar video for speaker cables?
Thanks man! Yes, that is another one that I need to cover...
Done! ua-cam.com/video/uVKFSquAhwc/v-deo.html
Awesome!!!
Try Mogami, hard to beat them in the same price range. Easy to find, super cheap for DIY.
Yes! Agree. If you are serious about hifi, learn to solder and/or crimp and make your own. You'll save thousands over the years...
ANA(DIA)LOG, what's your experience with burning in the Zavfino Arcadia 2. I bought it upon your review, so far after 40 hours it is still sounding thin and like the handbrake is on. I have experience with an OCC copperSilver loudspeaker cable where burning in took> 100 hours. Same here? Thanks for advice.
Could be, all cables react differently according to which gear you are using, or simply they just don't match...it can happen!
I am considering buying the Oyaide mid ( Class A) orange coloured cable but Oyaide do not provide capacitance measurement. I do not know why they don't do this, have they got something to hide ? Does anyone know what capacitance value is for this cable please ?
Capacitance, inductance and the worse of all, resistance and extremely low values in all our audio cables simply because they are too short. I explained this in detail here: ua-cam.com/video/uVKFSquAhwc/v-deo.html
@@anadialog Thanks, I have just looked at the part of the video you attach the link for about capacitance, so it seems I should not worry too much about the exact value if I am using an interconnect of only about 1metre.
I need a 35 ft length awesome RCA cable, NOT xlr, what do you recommend??? In order to connect an amp with my preamp...
Don't! You'll kill dynamics. That cable is too long for a single ended cable. Try getting a balanced connection if you can! If just can't then you must make your own from bulk. Otherwise you will spend way to much! I did a video on the topic but you should look for something even cheaper considering the length: ua-cam.com/video/u3EPL6hI_H4/v-deo.html
I always make my one cables you cant beat that
What is your opinion on using two independent shielded coaxial cables instead of a standard double RCA cable for connecting a turntable to a photo stage in an EMI+ environment? How would this affect especially the high frequencies?
You can do that but coax cables have a high impedence while standard analog interconnects have it lower so its not such a good idea, the signal will be attenuated and the cable will increase its capacitance and possibly loose its energy on the higher frequencies.
ANA[DIA]LOG Thank you so much for your answer. I intend to place a new turntable pretty much next to a tube amp (due to space limitations) and since I cannot be sure of the effectiveness of the insulation around the amp’s transformers, I was wondering which would be the best way to go...
@@Delkomo don't worry, go for a standard interconnect. Interference takes place with very poorly designed gear. If you are worried of interference get a semi-balanced interconnect with great shielding.
Speaker cables needed to be bounded together for each channel for capacity issue, how about RCA cables, between AVR and amplifier, left and right channel RCA cables needed to be bounded together? thanks!
If they are very long, yes.
Ana (Dia) Log I don't think the Oyaide interconnect cables are shielded. Shielding is usually recommended for interconnect cables and yet you are recommending the Oyaide cables. What is your opinion on this please ?
Of course they are shielded www.neo-w.com/english/d_plus/d_plus_rca_ser/
@@anadialog It does mention shielding in the spec but does not say if it has a copper braided shield. Just mentions aluminium outer cover. It is not a coaxial cable.
every one should listen to duelund straind tinned copper cotton sleeving for speaker cables and for power line cables . they are one of the best sounding cables in midprice .if you wanna go high end well neotech will get the job done for not a high end price .i use a pair of neotech nevd 2001 digital cable as interconnectors.they are amazing and sound like 10 times the price cables.enjoy everyone .....
What method do you use for cleaning your vinyl records
Right here: ua-cam.com/video/xazoibjlnic/v-deo.html
I want balanced or twisted cables for 3 way bass, mid range and highs, would you mind telling me what criteria I should look for in cables when picking?
In my experience, as explained in several of my vidoes, if you look for OCC copper conductors with teflon (PTFE) insulation and good quality connectors (24k gold plated or silver) you practically can't go wrong.
@@anadialog cheers, I was more in the tune of how silver is brighter so with tube amps good for highs, then some materials are good for full bodied midbass for midrange. I'm going to dsp anyway so guess it's not too important. Going for ofc silver filled/coated copper for long runs and occ silver plated for short runs. Interconnects full silver super short for value
Thx Mate, your doin amazing videos! Am realy sad that Neo have only Class B XLR cables...is there a differens between a good XLR and a RCA?
Thank you! Balanced connections, especially for distant cabling are best IMHO. A good RCA may reach that quality though...
That is a good example! XLR is used in pro environment, like recording studios and concerts cabling due to its noise canceling character. Short unbalance interconnects suffer much less.
I need an 7m long rca interconnect between my phono stage and integrated amplifier, what would you suggest? The reason is i want to move my unsuspended ( Rega planar 8 ) turntable away from the speakers.
7m is going to kill the benefits from moving it away. If we are talking balanced cables, ok, but otherwise never go over 2m.
@@anadialog OK, thank you for your answer! this was my latest thoughts also, but i got a reply from an cable making company that told me it would be no problem. So that confused me a bit. And thank you for your videos! I like your down to earth style of dealing with hifi!
I am sure a cable company told you it's ok! More meters more $$$!
@@anadialog Really?Only 2 m?You are funny man!Close the store!
Greatest affordable find so far: SOMMER EPILOGUE for 100 EUR per 1m pair and after 100 hours this is the greatest cable I ever used in my system since 20 years.
Comparable with 5-10x more expensive cables I tried or owned and audibly better than anything below - more details are present in all frequency range, noticeable especially with headphones - connected Violectric 281 or Rega EAR to REGA Elicit-R and... wow!
I am not a cable believer, just go with a reason and what my ears hear ;-)
Thanks for sharing that! I agree with the last line 100%
@@anadialog Funny is I didn't expected anything from this cable. Just needed additional RCA pair to test with headphone amp which I ordered both from Thomann and this was the only good hifi/mastering option available there (others were like Klotz etc. just terminated with RCA). Sommer is well established within music community as great german made instrumental/studio cables but it seems no one knows about this hi-fi Epilogue ugly looking yellow series as there are no reviews, no posts on boards etc. and they are available since many years.
I was sure I will just send them back within 30 days as 100 EUR is still a lot but the wow factor is so big that it's a keeper. It brings alive my cheap Rega EAR headphone amp that it is now fuller than before, almost "blanket out" effect. Rega with this cable for my ears is more pleasant to listen to than Violectric V281 (which is ofcorse better but too perfect/sterile to just enjoy music). Now Epilogue replaces Rega Duet RCA (same price) and Tellurium blacks (costs 3x more here). I also tested Epilogue comparing to some prototype "mil spec mumbo jumbo" very heavy and thick cable which will cost an arm an leg when it will be released or Tellurium ultra and for my ears they all performed the same.
Will check the Oyaide S too, as they are simillar priced to Epilogue.
Does anyone have any input on “Anti Cables” made in Minnesota?
No but I have heard of them. Strange to find this out when I live in Minneapolis and maybe 20 minutes away. I am proud of our states audio companies. Audio Research, Magnapan, Bel Canto, Van Alstine and now I can add this one :)
Well regarded in the Hi Fi community, but stiff cables.
@@angelotig thx angelo. that helps. there are soo many to choose from. plus i need to spend as little as possible. rick
@@briansimmons5363 thank you brian
@@Truthbetold857 thank you jason
I can definitely hear the difference, I would rather pay the $2000, to get the artist in the room sound!
Finally some great practical recommendations! thanks for that.
wish I would have seen this before investing into AQ Water.
I'm curious to give Oyaide d+ S a try, they might even still sound better than AQ water.
Also, since you advocate power cables influence on sound quality, do you have similar recommendation on power cables that can have audible improvements without breaking the bank?
In my opinion the best thing it to make them by your self. With power cables you don't even need to solder, just peel the conductors and attach them in a good connector! Here is an example: ua-cam.com/video/qlQXmQlBaVA/v-deo.html
The important is to use high quality materials like OCC copper and good bulk cable geometry/construction and insulation.
@@anadialog ok great! thanks for the reply I will have a look.
Also, for rca cables between Arcadia MKII 1877Phono Zavfino and Oyaide Neo D+ S and oyaide pa-02 tr v2 which one you would rather go with today? and between Oyaide Neo D+ S and oyaide pa-02 tr v2 is there going to be much difference, or would you choose one over other?
And finally how would you think these compare to my already installed AQ Water?
Thanks!
No problem for matching. Zavfino are very good, don't like the grip of a the connectors though. The best cables are those made by yourself with neotech occ coppper bulk cables and quality connectors: ua-cam.com/video/u3EPL6hI_H4/v-deo.html
Hello, I want to really thank you for this video. Based on your recommendations, I bought Neo d+ RCA Class S Audio Cable (purple, 1.0m) from Japan through ebay and I must say they sound way better than every cable I ever had. I am using them between my DAC and my new Elac Navis ARB-51 active speakers. Although these are designed in Japan, they are currently made in China, but they sound great, details, depth, positioning great in all respect.
Now I need a suggestion from you. I am about to upgrade my DAC and looking forward to buy a pair of XLR cable. I am looking for the absolute best within my budget because probably this will be my last upgrade for while. I am torn apart between two choices - the TUNAMI TERZO XX V2 White XLR and the Audioquest Yukon Series XLR cables which are double the price.
Could you please help me out choose between them?
What do you think about Oyaide Tunami Terzo RR interconnects?
All Tunami versions are great cables. Can't go wrong!
@@anadialog great, I will buy Tunami for my system :) I also ordered Oyaide pa2075 phono cable from eBay. Can't wait for it to arrive!
I tried the oyaide neo, they look and feel very good but I had to replace them because they pick up a lot of interference by nearby power cables
Sorry to hear that
@@anadialog it is a strange issue because it does not happen with every equipment. I replaced the one connecting my turntable to the phono stage
i will try the budget one perhaps to test against my beloved blue jeans since they are in the same range
Ps audio recommended that brand to go with their sprout ($600 integrated amp) I bought
@@Scottlp2 build quality is second to none, good pick.
I would advise Supra cable’s from Sweden; high quality and not expensive. That’s my experience.
All I do know about the interconnect cable is that my home-made cables (made of some cheap and tiny teflon insulated Belden 82761 terminated with Mogami 7551, total cost $30) sound no any worse than $ 350 AudioQuest cables.
can you tell me more about the comparison?
@@Ustaleone Well. That was a long time ago. I've read Jon Risch article about cable building and had soldered a couple short (0.5 meter) IC cables from the materials from the local shop. Then I went to a local Hi-End electronics dealer with my CDs. Prior to that I have bought from that shop a couple of Rotel sets for a friend of mine. So the salesman already knew me. He let me listen to my cables and the top of the line AudioQuest cables they had in stock via McCormack Micro Integrated amp and some Stax electrostatic headphones. I used RCA splitters at a CD player outputs and ran two sets of cables to two sets of amp inputs that I was switching back and forth with a toggle switch at amp's front panel. So I was trying to hear the difference between different cables. As I recall I've tried 4 sets of homemade Belden cables. With rubber insulation, with "Datalene" insulation, with polyethylene insulation and with teflon insulation. With the later I could not hear the difference between my cable and the Audio Quest Lapis 3 (also teflon insulated but about 5 ft long). So I called the salesman and let him listen to both cables. And he told me the phrase that I still remember: "It seems like you don't need to buy cables anymore."
@@Ustaleone If you are interested I just have found the part number of that Belden cable. It's 82761.
Рассматривал к покупке audioquest Sydney.. и твой пост заставил меня крепко задуматься.. Теперь я немного в тупике🤦
@@knightgsv На самом деле, разница в звучании разных межблочных кабелей довольно мала. Я бы сказал, на уровне нюансов. Лучше всего конечно внимательно послушать самому перед покупкой. Но, если Вы сами умеете паять или знаете того, кто умеет, то вполне можно без особых усилий собрать кабели не хуже заводских. Кстати, позже я нашел ещё один кабель от компании Belden (89182), который на мой слух звучит очень неплохо. Он настолько понравился двум продавцам разных магазинов Хай-Энда (в США и России), что они купили у меня по комплекту этих кабелей. Причем, один из продавцов оказался ещё и музыкантом и использует мои кабели для записи композиций своей группы. А с другой стороны, некоторые авторитетные самодельщики из Москвы (участники форума Vegalab) услышали там какие-то искажения. В конечном счете, нужно слушать самому.
I've tried all cables for years on all sorts of high end systems. I've concluded that as long as you have a well built, quality cable, you'll be fine! Everything else is money down the drain.
I have purchased Transparent reference XL rcas for my Plinius SA 102 class A Monobloc amplifiers connecting them to my Plinius M8 preamplifier, also a second run for my Lampizator Lite 7 SET dac dsd, 258 ,356 PCM Dac being fed from my Innuos Zenith mk3 server which is utilising Revelation audio labs prophecy cryogenic silver Ethernet rj45 cat 8 i2s,2 feeds and wireworlds Platinum starlight USB both pure silver cables, better conductor for treble purity and tubes the Transparent copper adds warmth and mid-range beauty as well as synergistic with solid state and base reproduction. Also have Transparent reference phono cables for my VPI white prime super scout turntable, wires make all the difference in the final tuning of quality systems, no doubt about it! Also have various Siltech and Transparent ultras in my hometheatre as well Transparent powercords, speakercables and Shunyata powercords etc Conrad Johnson met 1 multichannel pre-amp etc.. Lots of gear in 2 systems...
Wow man! Congrats for your amazing system!
Completly ridiculous! USB is digital and no physical property will change the sound.
Define an audiophile interconnect cable relative to the $50 XLR cable (very high quality with backed specification) used to record in the million dollar studio.
The Oyaide is really cheap for the price, tried it myself. Good starter RCA that normally costs like 2-5 times more.
Onya🤘
Nice review, Thank You. I am currently looking for both a SPDIF and a USB cable, I will have to check your recommendations out to see if they have digital interconnects as well. I am very sensitive to the differences in digital cables.
They do have USB cables in the Iyaide Neo, plus the normal Oyaide cables have excellent coaxial cables..a little more expensive though...
The problem is this, you are going by what you can see and implement on your own but more than likely you have crossovers that have $30.00 worth of parts and bad wire connecting the speakers. Once you hit the required resistance everything else does not matter. Termination is just if not more important. If you have $10,000.00 speakers and want to spend more then spend $500.00 on wire, or just order some good wire on a spool and some spade or banana plugs and call it even.
I like your perspective sir. Cables are snake oil 75 Ohm coaxial cables are excellent and affordable and have the best shielding but the crimped no solder RCA connectors are elusive and a little pricey so most manufacturers do not use them but you can make your own for a fraction of the price of Audio fool cables
I have exotic Jantzen Alumen Z-caps 6.8 uF capacitor in my crossover..
What's your point again?
Cables matter.. There is diminishing returns here aswell as anywhere else. But some heavy gauge silver-plated OCC Copper really does sound better.
Doesn't need to be crazy expensive. But you should atleast spend 400 $ on your loudspeaker cables.
Will you be able to hear the difference between 50$ vs 400$ cables?? - Absolutely!
Do you need 2000$ dollar cables? Most likely not.
Silver cables has a very different sound signature than Copper cables, I find that silver-plated OCC Copper strikes that perfect balance of anonymity.
Whereas pure Copper cables has a very dark wooly thick sound.
- Silver being very lean and bright.
I love Nordost cables, very detailed and fast cables but the new series are very expensive. Fortunately I bought them when they had "normal" prices.
Nordost is one of the few cable producers I really like. Great cables!
@@anadialog I did the test today. I liked the good words from you for the Oyaide cables and I bought the purple ones. I used them from DAC to preamplifier. I left Nordost SPM reference from preamp to amp. Their rival was Nordost red ones - no more in production, I would say the "Red Dawn" is their analogue in quality now. I didn't want to put them against the SPMs. So.... I got my tester as always.... my wife. (I tried long to convince her to do the test but she wouldn't do it till today). Of course I didn't tell her which cable is which and she has no idea about cables, she just listens with me every Saturday.
Voila! She heard the difference immediately! She told me that the 2nd set (Nordost) had bigger image, more detail, female voices were nearer and more touchy (well not her exact words but she is not in the audiophile i did some little translation).
Now my verdict: a) Very quiet cable, which was stunning because Nordosts are VERY quiet cables and they were MORE quiet b) Excellent place in organs, better than Nordost (werd), these were the very strong points, c) They lacked the detail of Nordosts BUT they had good detail overall but they lacked the "airness" of Nordosts in the highs, the "silkness" etc d) Lower in dynamics and punch e) A little less bass, e) smaller picture and stage , however see (b).
I had them 12 hours playing before the test.
Well that's it.
System: Symphonic Line RG2 ref preamp, 100W SET pure ClassA monoblocks, SPM reference cables but the DUTs, Focal Arias 948.
Thank you so much, very interesting! Well, if the Oyaide stranded against the Nodora Heimdall, I still have two pair of them in my system in key points, it's a great result. For maximum quality you must have occ copper and teflon insulation, geometry is then the third element but that has an enormous variety.
According to Oyaide website, S class now uses the same conductors of A class, 102 SSC, I understand it is technically OFC. So no OCC on that series. Besides Ricable Primus, can you please recommend another relatively affordable cable that uses OCC conductors? Also, Ricable balanced XLR cables only start at one level above the primus, the Magnus, which has a higher price tag.
Yes, some time has passed from the video and things change. I guess only Neotech uses only OCC copper and OCC silver. Check this vid: ua-cam.com/video/rHMFP6IKqvY/v-deo.htmlsi=Ef1e3W6ce8ewstT2
In the video I also presented the Arcadia Zavfino: zavfinousa.com/products/arcadia-pc-occ-interconnect-cable
Anadialog, this is my field, if you want to try a 1 metre set of my ultra hi-end analogue interconnects, they are only to be used on digital, let me know & I'll send you a set, you will be very surprised, let me know, anyway another great video.
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Tweaker man! Thank you very much for your offer! Sure! I would be glad to try them...contact me at anadialog@yahoo.com. Thanks!
I like surfcables.com. Specifically Pro-2 Silver XLR cable.
I would say many can tell the difference and I probably can too but not going to spend this kind of cash for small incremental improvements. Instead I just buy good bulk cable, Mogami or Canare, some good RCA plugs and banana plugs and make my own with silver solder, Techflex and heat shrink. Look great, and fundamentally good materials at the component level so I would say the outcome they should or do deliver to my ears should be fundamentally OK. Fantastic probably not, better than your average Monster cable/Audioquest, possibly. Good value to me.
You probably did not see my first videos where I explain how to do these very same videos but by your self at a fraction of the price: ua-cam.com/video/u3EPL6hI_H4/v-deo.html
Do you have any suggestion on free cables? (i don't know what the name is for cables that do not have connectors). I need cables to connect my amplifier to my speakers that are old Monitor audio (don't know the reference). thanks a lot for this video really instructive!
Respectfully.
Bulk cables! Sure, the best, IMHO, are OCC copper bulk cables, possibly insulated with teflon, regardless the brand. Check out Neotech, Furutech, Viablue...
@@anadialog Tahnk you very much!
Being an electronic bench technician I was so hoping that d+ would post actual measurements on their website. Sadly, like almost all vendors they are afraid to post actual measurements for their products. That's why I'll stick with Blue Jeans Cable until someone can prove they are better.
Your using a faulty point of view. Oyaide uses OCC and OFC copper, great insulation and amazing geometries, finally, at a decent price. By the way, not only Blue Jeans Cables seems a little presumptuous selling standard cables and writing a lot of stuff, I do not see any scientific analysis as you claim. Maybe I am not finding them on the site. Not that it is important for me, I trust my ears and the quality of the materials.
For me its almost ridiculous to claim "we cut a 15 year Belden cable and it was nice and shiny" hence OFC copper is BS. Not very serious.
P.s. they sell cables, I don't! ;-)
@@anadialog I'm just saying that you wouldn't buy an amp or speakers w/o pubished specs. Isn't it odd that cables are the ONLY industry that doesn't publish measurements?? I'm not saying the d+ are bad (how could I know) and I'm not saying every cable maker that uses good materials makes a good cable. Also, BJC isn't presumptious, they use the best industry standard wire available and terminate them to order. No frills, just facts, and they're not pretty. I have decent, pretty cables from Kimber too but I'm frustrated with the lack of transparency and proliferation of BS statements like "corrects distortion from mp3 files". I take you at your word regarding the d+ brand, so much so I plan to order the Class A model for a recent DAC streamer. The Class S is bloated cost w/ special case and premium packaging. Edite: BJC doesn't publish all the data on their site as the cables used are industry standard and you can go to Belden or Canare and see extensive data, same with Mogami. Cheers
@Marzen thanks for your comment. I see your point and trust me I am fed up by the cable industry. That is why, one of my first videos was revealing what are the top materials that they are using and reselling 30 times the actual cost and, in another video, how the best thing you can do is to make them yourself! Here is the link to the second video: ua-cam.com/video/u3EPL6hI_H4/v-deo.html
Did you buy all of those or were they donated?
All mine and tested during time!
Explain how power cables have, as you said, a "great impact" please... How a cable transporting 120/240 V AC @ 60 Hz has an impact on audio signals? What kind of cable is running inside the walls from your power panel all the way to your power socket? As for RCA cables, explains what exactly would make a "great impact" on audio signal, what do those cables have so "special" VS standard quality OFC cables? Talk about RLC circuits Vs Input / Output impedance how an engineer would solve the problem.
would you recommend them for a nakamichi deck?
I use them with my Nakamichi decks!
@@anadialog thanks for the reply, what do you think about the Nakamichi DR-2?
From the specs seems like a good Nack. I never heard one though.
Why Oyaide cables vs Audioquest , chord , Atlas etc . are they better ?
Not necessarily. But these new cables from Oyaide are very good and cheap. Most are OFC, but only one (d+ class S) has OCC copper, which is the best of the best and can rival with high end models or other brands.
What about monster cables interconnect cables 850i , 950i , 1000i advanced and ultimate versions ?
Not a big fan of MC. If they have (finally) introduced OCC Copper and a decent insulation, they are good for me!
In addition I would like to mention the SKW Analog interlinks (RCA): cheaper than Oyaide Neo D and cheaper than Ludic. OCC cables for unimaginable low prices: e.g. SKW BGO4 1meter €34,60. Sound: beyond expectations...
Tried the Oyaide Class A: it's amazing, but imo not as good as the mentioned SKW. The Oyaide Class S should be better (actually OCC) but that's three times the price of SKW.
Ordered also the Ludic Magica interlink; just to find out for myself what they have to offer; looks certainly very promising....
At the end of the day all that matters is what we hear for ourselves, right?
hi. Im a relatiwely new commer on the world of audio file/gear/music liseners and concerning the topic of hi grade cabels I have one question which is: how can I get a significant enprowment on sound quality using no matter what occ silver or different cable connecting my source with lets say the speackers when the equipment producer use inside the gear to produce the signal just reggular "plain jane" normal copper wire?
ps: im enjoing each one of youre youtube eppisodes. keep up the good job.
Thanks! Well, a lot of people in fact rewire speakers and components (with OCC copper usually) to get the maximum from their system but it is very hard to do. A first step is using good quality cables connecting your system. If you feel you wan't to rewire be sure you know what your doing and have the necessary skills...
subaruxrxsti78 There are a lot of company's (not the mainstream companies that are chinese made) that take care to use good, not necessarily expensive wiring in their products. Some, usually speakers, are made with quality cables from company's such as Van den hul, Nordost, etc. Something to keep an eye out for.
Amazon's 10$ RCA cables are more than enough. No need for snake oil cables.
Yawn
Have you tried SKW interconnect cables l would be interested in your views on them ?
I haven't but I am sure they must be quite good, only problem is that they don't have PTFE insulation and that is a killer for me
did u test the cables? what were the results?
I listened to the cables and excluded just as many. The results ARE this video! :-)