Love War Pig. Those guys have awesome communication and customer service and they also send out awesome stickers with their products. Sure, you can complain about prices, but they have some really rare ammo on their site that you can't find anywhere else.
Thank you! We try to focus hard on customer service and communication. We wish we could have better pricing but this stuff is HARD to get.. thank you for being a valuable customer (:
@MyLonewolf25 What does that have to do with the purpose of M80A1? The purpose of M80A1 is to improve performance in defeating light and intermediate barriers found in military combat environments.
7:19 NOOOOOO!!!! Don’t say that about self defense 😭. My shtf mag for my AR10 has +10-M80A1-X5-M993 and X5-M61 Israeli- Mag marked on bottom (for a real FN bad day!) 😂. Thanks for another great video! Most don’t truly appreciate the cost for all this, but I feel your pain!
I love the thumbnail picture. Reminded me of wandering through southeast Asia in the summer of '06. The English skills were good, but sometimes hilarious.
I so love the new M855A1 and M80A1 i was able to get 10 rounds of the M855A1 dang that stuff is 🔥 hot! Unfortunately very hard to get and expensive!! Great video brother
130gr is too light for 308. It packs a punch but the low BC means it loses power rather quickly down range. The British adopted a 155gr round that makes more sense imo.
It depends on what you want it to do. This round was designed to penetrate barriers better than previous rounds and optimized for shorter barreled rifles. It also reliably breaks into two deep-penetrating pieces for better terminal effect. Since the brass, copper and steel components of this bullet are less dense than the lead used in the British bullet or M80, it could not be much heavier and still stabilize in their weapons. The 132 grain M80A1 bullet is already longer than the 147 M80 (30.1mm vs 26,5mm). It seems that the EPR projectiles are roughly 20% longer than equal weight FMJ bullets.
2850 out of a 16 inch barrel? That’s 556 velocity! I’m expecting crazy performance out of this thing lol EDIT: watched to the end and indeed it looks good!
I have about 10, mk319, and 15 mk318 projectiles. These were sourced during the initial rollout from a buddy doing the initial testing. If interested, let me know, Matt.
@@surq0784 I have the projos coming actually so I should be good. It happened to work about all the same, that a follower contacted me about them. I have some loaded so I can compare velocites.
When I got some of this 10 yrs ago to test, I just had the bullets. A friend loaded some a little on the warm side per a known 130gr load in one of the reloading manuals. It was spitting these out at 3300 fps in the 22" :D Needless to say based on factory performance, we were well above the mark!
I’m more impressed with the 13” velocities than anything else! Lol 2700 is crazy for 13”. I have a 13.5 and everything I’ve seen even with 147gr is in the 2500 range. 2700 would be a dream!
This is my first time watching your channel and I'm impressed. You don't waste a lot of the viewers time but get right down to work. I didn't like the 7.62 when I was in the Army I was issued the M14 as an aircraft mechanic in Korea in 1964 and I didn't like the recoil. I love my Windham VEX rifle that weighs in at a hefty eight and an half pounds. You don't feel the recoil and it's fun for plinking.
Doing the math... you must be getting the most out of your retirement! I was in junior high in 64 and quite a bit below your level of accomplishment at that time. Also, thank you for your service!
@@BuffRANGE NICE, i found that the 113gr ammo is trash. i had a 6 moa group from my 16". however the 150gr accubond 3 of my 5 groups were about .5-.8 moa 2 were ~1.1 moa, likely due to user error. i only have a holo and a 3x magnifier when i made those groups as well. i was looking into the patents and sig has much better LF training ammo they are going to sell to the military, they are basically just trying to dump all the old 113gr ammo to the civilian market. They also have new ap ammo with significant accuracy improvements. old ap was 5-7 moa, new ap is 1-2 moa.
@@jpoprules23 I've seen that. looks like they added a boat-tail to the penetrator. Time will tell if I'm able to get any of that. I have the 113gr LF coming, and most others testing have reported less than superb accuracy.
there is something wrong with your SBR at the 1:00 mark. There is shavings of what looks to be metal on the towel. They start to appear right below the ejection port and then seem to come out of the muzzle break on the towel under the muzzle break area.
Buffman as always making TOP TIER tests. We are truly lucky to have him. If you are seeing this man, thank you!
My pleasure!
It’s crazy that it performs better in soft tissue than most hunting bullets in .308.
Love War Pig. Those guys have awesome communication and customer service and they also send out awesome stickers with their products. Sure, you can complain about prices, but they have some really rare ammo on their site that you can't find anywhere else.
Thank you! We try to focus hard on customer service and communication. We wish we could have better pricing but this stuff is HARD to get.. thank you for being a valuable customer (:
@WarPigArmory Just got goodies in the mail from you guys today! Thanks for the candy and the epic stickers 😂
Love how informative these videos are, one of the best guntubers for anybody interested in ammunition performance.
Thank you very much!
How can one not love the harmonics of the M1A? ❤
How does anyone not like .308 @ 3000+ fps?
Being on the receiving end? 🤪
You're barrel life 😂
@@galm47 Barrels are a consumable part. If you never want to replace a barrel, never use your rifle.
The BC on m80a1 isn’t great
It’s only about a 130 grain bullet iirc
@MyLonewolf25 What does that have to do with the purpose of M80A1? The purpose of M80A1 is to improve performance in defeating light and intermediate barriers found in military combat environments.
Protection against the AFT 😏
7:19 NOOOOOO!!!! Don’t say that about self defense 😭. My shtf mag for my AR10 has +10-M80A1-X5-M993 and X5-M61 Israeli- Mag marked on bottom (for a real FN bad day!) 😂.
Thanks for another great video! Most don’t truly appreciate the cost for all this, but I feel your pain!
I would say that mag combo is rock solid :D
I love the thumbnail picture. Reminded me of wandering through southeast Asia in the summer of '06. The English skills were good, but sometimes hilarious.
:D I had my funny Doge mouse pad next to me and played off that :D
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
I have a question: is M2 AP bullet shot to NIJ level IV specification equivalent to an M2 AP shot with a proof 7.62N load?
In my experience yes. I’m right about 27-2800 fps TOPS with my 308 MP2AP
Wish it wasn’t $10 each.
But I do feel taken care of.😊
Well, maybe ammo prices will be coming down in the not impossibly distant future.
@@rre9121 No ammo price won't
Agreed ☝️
To many reasons why ammo cost will not drop some legit some not.
Patent will run out in a couple years.
They are now $10.99 a round.
Yeah there seems to be a gray market huge mark up on these. That's how expensive this video got....
I so love the new M855A1 and M80A1 i was able to get 10 rounds of the M855A1 dang that stuff is 🔥 hot! Unfortunately very hard to get and expensive!! Great video brother
Thank you!
130gr is too light for 308. It packs a punch but the low BC means it loses power rather quickly down range. The British adopted a 155gr round that makes more sense imo.
Except it outperforms M80
I like the PPU 155gr Match.
It depends on what you want it to do. This round was designed to penetrate barriers better than previous rounds and optimized for shorter barreled rifles. It also reliably breaks into two deep-penetrating pieces for better terminal effect. Since the brass, copper and steel components of this bullet are less dense than the lead used in the British bullet or M80, it could not be much heavier and still stabilize in their weapons. The 132 grain M80A1 bullet is already longer than the 147 M80 (30.1mm vs 26,5mm). It seems that the EPR projectiles are roughly 20% longer than equal weight FMJ bullets.
Bear in mind, these have no lead. The bullets are all copper and steel, so they're gonna be lighter than normal bullets of the same length.
@@SaltyMaverick Yup. To get nerdy, copper and brass are about 79% the density of lead and steel is even lighter at about 70% the density of lead.
Heyell yeah!
"308, when you absolutely positively have to shoot through an engine block." Massad Ayoub
3k fps, that's great. Great video bro.
Thanks!
Hey brother, I have some Lake City 7.62x51 NATO MK319 MOD 0.
Ohh HEY! YES! Can you DM me on FB or IG?
@ yep, done
2850 out of a 16 inch barrel? That’s 556 velocity! I’m expecting crazy performance out of this thing lol
EDIT: watched to the end and indeed it looks good!
Very good indeed!
Great content as usual.
Much appreciated!
I have about 10, mk319, and 15 mk318 projectiles. These were sourced during the initial rollout from a buddy doing the initial testing. If interested, let me know, Matt.
Projectiles or loaded ammo?
@BuffRANGE Projectiles, unfortunately. It was a huge risk to pull off that. I might have more, but I've only found 10 so far in 7.62.
@@surq0784 I have the projos coming actually so I should be good. It happened to work about all the same, that a follower contacted me about them. I have some loaded so I can compare velocites.
I don't know why my response didn't go through, but just let me know if you change your mind. I was able to find more.
@@surq0784 Will do! Thanks for the offer!
Imagine loading that bullet in a 300 ultra mag…. 3,600-3,700 FPS… kinda be cool
I get about 3500 in a 24” 300WM
But where is "ruh roh raggy"?
hehe :D
still looking for the mk319?
I am set! I had a few donors and we've got 100rds!
130 grain really is the right weight for 308 . The Barnes 130 grain is king in 308 3006 hunting bullets
They seem to work very well :D
This dude has had like 2-3 guns blow up on him on this channel and here he is shooting an 80 percent SCAR upper lol
:)
I didn't think the velocity would be that high
When I got some of this 10 yrs ago to test, I just had the bullets. A friend loaded some a little on the warm side per a known 130gr load in one of the reloading manuals. It was spitting these out at 3300 fps in the 22" :D Needless to say based on factory performance, we were well above the mark!
I got a stash of mk319
yeah?
I’m more impressed with the 13” velocities than anything else! Lol 2700 is crazy for 13”. I have a 13.5 and everything I’ve seen even with 147gr is in the 2500 range. 2700 would be a dream!
Nice and warm indeed!
The M14 flash hider ring 🤕
This is my first time watching your channel and I'm impressed. You don't waste a lot of the viewers time but get right down to work. I didn't like the 7.62 when I was in the Army I was issued the M14 as an aircraft mechanic in Korea in 1964 and I didn't like the recoil. I love my Windham VEX rifle that weighs in at a hefty eight and an half pounds. You don't feel the recoil and it's fun for plinking.
Thanks for stopping by :D I will say some .308 platforms are a little more recoiling than others, but it's not terrible :D
Doing the math... you must be getting the most out of your retirement! I was in junior high in 64 and quite a bit below your level of accomplishment at that time. Also, thank you for your service!
@@cheryltysver4819 Thanks
Does velocity change when you add or take away gas seems like it should
The loss or gain of velocity going from semi auto to bolt gun is very small. At least in my testing of common calibers.
5,45x39 7N39 ?
If Only..
Thanks Buffman 😀😊 Thanks War Pig Armory 😀👍🏼
Definitely thanks WPA!
any eta on sig fury?
I have it on hand. Need ammo, and optic
@@BuffRANGE NICE, i found that the 113gr ammo is trash. i had a 6 moa group from my 16". however the 150gr accubond 3 of my 5 groups were about .5-.8 moa 2 were ~1.1 moa, likely due to user error. i only have a holo and a 3x magnifier when i made those groups as well. i was looking into the patents and sig has much better LF training ammo they are going to sell to the military, they are basically just trying to dump all the old 113gr ammo to the civilian market. They also have new ap ammo with significant accuracy improvements. old ap was 5-7 moa, new ap is 1-2 moa.
@@jpoprules23 I've seen that. looks like they added a boat-tail to the penetrator. Time will tell if I'm able to get any of that. I have the 113gr LF coming, and most others testing have reported less than superb accuracy.
You definitely get the point with this loading 😎
You got that right!
there is something wrong with your SBR at the 1:00 mark. There is shavings of what looks to be metal on the towel. They start to appear right below the ejection port and then seem to come out of the muzzle break on the towel under the muzzle break area.
Those are leaves :D
I’ve got about 100rds of tge mk319
Wills this go through lvl 3+?
Depends on the type of III+ ceramic. Some of it that has a THICK strike face can, otherwise it will go through
Far better than M80.
I would say so :D
Dammit now I have to buy some., I love hate watching your channel lol
hehe :D
Amazing
Thanks
🔥🔥🔥
Thanks!
Feeding the algorithm!
It's hungry. Hungry for blood, heck it's plain old hungry~!
7.62 as always.
Indeed, 7.62 as always :D
“Too much penetration in my opinion”. Guy, you’re shooting 308 AP. That comment makes zero sense
I mean that's in reference to using this for PP/SD/HD and that's all that is in regards to. This is also not AP ammo..