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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @EASPORTSWRC
    @EASPORTSWRC 2 місяці тому +10

    We always enjoy your breakdowns, good video once again 🙂
    Also, hope all is well with you life-wise, sorry to hear at the start you've been having a rough time 😥

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +4

      @EASPORTSWRC Thank you very much, perhaps I just need some extra large pigeons in my life, lol. I hope improvements keep coming to this game. As I always say, even with all the portions of this game that I don't like, it's still the best rally game currently and only gets better from here.

    • @mattinieminen362
      @mattinieminen362 2 місяці тому

      Yes , this lad should go to look some real footage about rally
      This guy does not understand WRC at all , i have follow all my live since 1977 and seen group b times and etc Creetings from Finland and all good all u ❤

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      @mattinieminen362 lol I've been into rally for many years.

    • @mattinieminen362
      @mattinieminen362 2 місяці тому

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing so u shoul know about those splitters does not break in landings 👏🏼👏🏼

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +2

      @mattinieminen362 they do get worn and damaged. Any material hitting repeatedly like that will get damaged. I was stating there should be a detailed damage system that takes stuff like that into account. Such as maybe a dumbed-down beam NG approach.

  • @Spartancat02
    @Spartancat02 2 місяці тому +10

    Really hope you never dissapear, as you are really fun and interesserting to watch.
    Really deserve a minimum of 10x the subscriber count you have today.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +3

      Thank you very much, Spartan! I actually have a lot of upcoming videos for this channel coming up. I just took a long break from simracing to take it seriously and heal up, and then not having any solid internet for over a month has been really annoying and set me back a lot. I also stopped streaming because it seemed to just not go anywhere here on youtube, and I couldn't gain any traction. Also, got some pretty big things good and bad happening in my life right now so it's been a bit tougher to make content just in general. But off the top of my head, I have 6 pretty sizable SleepyPants videos planned in the near future! :)

    • @Spartancat02
      @Spartancat02 2 місяці тому +2

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing No, wait... scratch that, you deserve minimum 20x or more, for the content and personality you provide for us sim racers.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      Damn man...thank you for that. I sincerely appreciate it.

    • @Spartancat02
      @Spartancat02 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing Really appreciate the replies from a really good youtuber. Looking forward to your future videos.
      And btw, i bought the Simdid push pull shifter After watching your review, comparison and short. Will hopefully recive it very soon.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @Spartancat02 Nice man!!! Ya, they are really nice especially for the price. What version did you get aluminum or carbon, small or big paddle?

  • @Plutoman09
    @Plutoman09 2 місяці тому +2

    Ohhhh . Butterflies I like Butterflies
    Butterflies and Steriod Pigeons. The only reason to get the game !

  • @massolaracing7482
    @massolaracing7482 2 місяці тому +6

    I think its a SHAME that in min 3:12 they clearly dont have ambient occlusion (a permanent black shadow under the car) at higher distance wich makes such a big difference in graphic quality and its not that taxing for one car. Despite the bad glass shader.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +2

      Maybe you pegged one of the issues making the cars look unrealistic in the garages.

  • @Plutoman09
    @Plutoman09 2 місяці тому +1

    BLINK! GOD DAMN IT. BLINK!
    I WANT YOU TO BLINK! JUST ONCE AT LEAST. PLEEEEASE

  • @socks2441
    @socks2441 2 місяці тому +1

    1:28 exactly my thoughts. i was pretty confused. they even had pro wrc drivers test and review the game like it was the first time they played it. i didnt understand. does this mean they have improved the handling as well for the content dlc?

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @socks2441 I mean, when they bring the pros in, they are not going to make a supercut of all the drivers talking shit...lol
      I'm sure they are nudged in the "say nice things direction" based on their affiliates.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing true, although I wasn't saying the physics were bad or anything, just that unless they changed the physics they already had pro wrc drivers test the game a year ago, why get them to test it again now just for the 2024 liveries and 2 new tracks. Unless they did improve/ change the physics?

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      @socks2441 I'm thinking they had to have changed something...or they simply tweaked the physics for the new cars maybe?

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing yeah, that could be it

  • @massolaracing7482
    @massolaracing7482 2 місяці тому +1

    Don't worry! Its incredible how many passions you have and I think its really cool that you literally do youtube just for fun and don't have the pressure to upload as much as you can! Thats how it should be :) and why people like you

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      Thank you man! I recorded a bunch of footage for Just Rally 3 btw. I'm just searching for time to edit something together. :)

    • @massolaracing7482
      @massolaracing7482 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing Wow I am excited!! Porsche with awesome sound and Delta group B coming soon!

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @massolaracing7482 You are doing great man, always super impressed with what you accomplish and you are still a one man operation, correct?

    • @massolaracing7482
      @massolaracing7482 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing Yess thats correct! THank you so much :)

  • @DanielPerryRally
    @DanielPerryRally 2 місяці тому +2

    I gotcha big dawg, service park is what you're thinking of

  • @rudypessotto
    @rudypessotto 2 місяці тому +3

    It's good to see you back, take a look at the physics and cameras inside the car and drivers, install the WRC 7 and test it, take a look at the camera inside the car, hugs.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      I'm assuming wrc 7 is superior? Lol

    • @rudypessotto
      @rudypessotto 2 місяці тому

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing that's not what I meant, it was just to see the cameras inside the car and the movements, of course the wrc 23 is by far better, even the dirts series was better

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @@rudypessotto I see! :) I'm sure I'll miss the marionette people once they update them eventually.

  • @joshwag9136
    @joshwag9136 2 місяці тому +1

    Im still around. Glad to see you back doug

  • @adriansmithmusic
    @adriansmithmusic 2 місяці тому +2

    What are your thoughts on the Assetto Coursy Evo trailer? 😁

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +2

      I'm going to hopefully check it out later today. I have been avoiding seeing anything about it so I can do a similar reaction video once I have some time.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому +1

      im one of the unpopular people that would love a game with completely simulation physics, but instead of circuit racing, maybe some street racing on real roads etc. we cannot do crazy illegal stuff like that irl. so it seems fitting for a game to provide us that experience without endangering lives. circuit racing is fun, but its just not the same. why do games with shitty arcade physics get to have all the fun.

  • @skyrex2465
    @skyrex2465 2 місяці тому

    The black bar on the Rally1 cars front bumper is a rubber skirt. So it is still fine if it goes into the ground and has no effect, they literally sweep a bit dirt away on tthe real cars. The acual bumper starts at the point where there is paint on it too.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      @@skyrex2465 I always thought that was made from plastic or cabon fiber, I feel like rubber would be too soft and heavy...

  • @StonedRambo01
    @StonedRambo01 2 місяці тому +2

    You can go frame by frame with . goes forward one frame and , goes back a frame

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      Yep! I was actually doing that in the video but I wasn't saying anything important so I cut it out cause it's a longer vid. Thank you rambo!!!

  • @SIMRIG412
    @SIMRIG412 2 місяці тому +4

    He is finally back

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @SIMRIG412 :) I've been here, just not streaming anymore. Got some heavy hitting reviews coming up in the future. Glad you got your oktane!

  • @adriansmithmusic
    @adriansmithmusic 2 місяці тому +2

    Sorry to hear about the bad things going on in your life. Keep the head up! As for the pigeons google wood pigeon. Theyre chonky af! Absolute units. If you compare the size of them to the tiled they're perched above it looks right. Its probably just a perspective thang!

  • @hhistertheosis
    @hhistertheosis 2 місяці тому +2

    Hey man, glad to see you back.
    There is still almost no lateral movement on the suspension! The cars look on rails!
    I always thought it's bs when devs talk about a racing game being accessible! Make a realistic game and it will be accessible! Realism doesn't mean harder! GT7 is harder to master than ACC because in ACC physics/feedback make sense! Goddammit. Is this hard to grasp?!

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @hhistertheosis that's a good point, something that is unnatural can be harder to master. Not in all cases but I agree with that statement. Like playing octodad is harder than actually walking. Lol

  • @andrewtsousis3130
    @andrewtsousis3130 2 місяці тому +2

    Welcome back!

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      @andrewtsousis3130 Thank you man! Got a lot of stuff in the works.

  • @EspenFrafalne
    @EspenFrafalne Місяць тому +1

    Tbh, the main things i care about in any racing game, is handling/physics, car and track selection, graphics, and FFB. EA WRC is pretty good in all these areas IMO. I think maybe i prefer the handling Dirt Rally 2.0 has for dirt roads, but EA WRC feel like it has more fine details in the handling/physics, and MUCH more finely detailed graphics. Damage models is not as important IMO, as if i really wanted to, i can pretend it has realistic damage, and drive as carefully as i would IRL, and restart every time i crashed at more than 30km/h. The "hardcore damage" model in EA WRC seem a bit forgiving compared to what i would expect, considering it claims to be "realistic damage", but it is still enough to motivate me to TRY to stay on the road. Id be surprised if rally cars are not built to withstand a lot more than the average family car (or BeamNG damage model), so for all i know, maybe the "hardcore damage" model actually is kinda realistic..?
    No rally game is perfect, and one could spend ones time finding reasons to hate them, or be happy with what we have. Obviously there are limits to what is enjoyable, but both EA WRC, Dirt Rally 2.0, and WRC 10 goes past what i personally need to enjoy a game. I have not yet played Generations, due to the clutch bug/feature, LOL, but i just found your video explaining that there are mods for it, so guess maybe ill try it.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your experiences! I want to clarify by saying I don't think ea wrc is a bad game, its a great game especially now since most of the issues are ironed out, I just am really digging generations at the moment and it's on sale right now! ;)

    • @EspenFrafalne
      @EspenFrafalne Місяць тому +1

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing I already have all the WRC games, from 5 and up. I didnt know there were mods for any of the rally games other than RBR, so it will be intersting to try Generations 👍

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  Місяць тому +1

      @EspenFrafalne oh yes! You should try the open world mod for the wrc 8-gen. I actually have a video on it if you're interested!

    • @EspenFrafalne
      @EspenFrafalne Місяць тому +1

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing Open world 🤯 Ill have to check that out..! I seem to remember that WRC 8 would not recognize my steering wheel, but i also seem to remember finding a workaround 1 minute after i uninstalled it 😂

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  Місяць тому +1

      @EspenFrafalne i believe this mod works with all the wrc games 8-gen although I haven't tested it with gen. ua-cam.com/video/acAllbWmVC8/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @SP.Spittlebug
    @SP.Spittlebug 2 місяці тому +2

    welcome back! still havent tried wrc, and i doubt i will in the future, not interested in something that they want to sell for what its not! on the other side at beamng they made some good ffb changes, have you tried that?

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      @SP.Spittlebug I haven't been racing for a long time due to my internet not working out in the garage as I mentioned. I just got it operating last night actually so I will be starting back up soon. I also need another drive because the videos I've been editing lately are so large I had to delete everything to make room temporarily. Lol

  • @potatoglizzy3212
    @potatoglizzy3212 2 місяці тому +3

    4K? Yes please.

  • @Plutoman09
    @Plutoman09 2 місяці тому +2

    Well After that hyper critical review..
    I think im going to jump off a bridge
    With my PC and the game.
    If there's no blinky blinky.. The game just isnt worthy...

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      Lol I'll join you. Maybe that will make my brain go quiet for a bit.

  • @SackyX
    @SackyX 2 місяці тому +1

    Is there a release date?

  • @JoaoSoares-bh2cq
    @JoaoSoares-bh2cq 2 місяці тому +1

    The people could try to run like in wrc rally evolved in ps2 and the cars crashed in the side of the road or some rocks falling of the mountain

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @JoaoSoares-bh2cq I mean I absolutely hate when people do that. It's selfish and I know it's part of the history of rally and it's an exciting thing but it so inconsiderate to the teams participating. It's like if random fans ran on a basketball court and tried to block players shots occasionally...lol
      But I agree, small details like rocks falling, grass responding to dynamic situations etc. Would really help sell the ambiance of the stages.

    • @JoaoSoares-bh2cq
      @JoaoSoares-bh2cq 4 години тому

      ​@@SleepyPantsSimRacing they run to avoid being run over when you go off the track, they don't go to the middle of the track like here in the Portuguese rally in the past and yes I also think that's fucked up for both the people and the teams

  • @10weslleynereu
    @10weslleynereu 2 місяці тому +3

    It doesnt bother me the lifeless human models - it bothers me that they are bad an still they choose to show them trough a almost transparent wind shield. If it had a reflex would hide more and look much more realistic

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      Good Point!

    • @JSmith73
      @JSmith73 2 місяці тому +1

      @@10weslleynereu after the lifeless models was mentioned I can't unsee it now, thanks I guess. 😅

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +2

      You're welcome...and sorry. Lol

  • @msum23
    @msum23 2 місяці тому +1

    they said the new locations are better optimised especially due to more experience with UE. You can fix pop-in with some .ini file tweaks though... but hopefully we won't have to do that now

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      Ya I have done the ini fixes but it seemed more taxing on my setup, hoping to see more tweaks like that for the better! Great to see though

  • @adriansmithmusic
    @adriansmithmusic 2 місяці тому +2

    Maybe the drivers head doesnt bob down because it has something to do with VR supporr. That would be disorientating in VR!

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      Interesting thought, I'm sure it moves some, I'm going to try to keep an eye out in game now that I brought this topic up. I'm not sure I noticed the head movement before. The eyes are a killer for me too, just looking straight ahead not really following the road. Probably not worth the extra processing power required but would have been nice.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому +1

      im not sure how much the hans device restricts head movement but that could be a factor too maybe.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @socks2441 I considered that, but I have seen much more head movement when it comes to these cars in real life. I would say this is pretty low on the priority list, but it's something I would like to see addressed at some point by

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing ah ok 👍

  • @alles_Freaks
    @alles_Freaks 2 місяці тому +2

    dynamic handling sounds just like an excuse for inconstency. 😆 52 new liveries yeah, lets hope they touched at least that amount of lines in the code to give us some fixes..... But the new content will be very welcome non the less

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @@alles_Freaks I'm excited to see if the game feels the same when this comes out.

    • @zriley7995
      @zriley7995 2 місяці тому +3

      thats ea for ya😂😂😂

  • @JSmith73
    @JSmith73 2 місяці тому +1

    The fixed cockpit view with mega bouncy horizon is the worst part of WRC for me. There's a Horizon option in VR (only) but no good to me on trips, it feels nauseating.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      I think you can adjust that in this game, actually. Also, keep in mind this footage looks kinda zoomed in, but I'm gaming on a super ultrawide, so it doesn't feel this bumpy if you are actually playing on the monitor.

    • @JSmith73
      @JSmith73 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacingthe horizon option is only there for VR, but I found that by moving "camera shake" from zero to 100 the car will actually move a tiny bit vertically in response to the bumps - which makes the nausea I experienced far better. On zero the car cockpit doesn't move a pixel. The option is a bit counter intuitive, from the perspective that the horizon shakes like crazy in this game (vs iRacing).
      I have a full perspective corrected triple qhds 32" display myself, keeping the 4090 plenty busy. 😄

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      @JSmith73 yes, that's the setting I was referring to, lol and how does the game run for you with the 4090? I have the 7900xtx and when I'm not recording on obs I can get some decent fps but while recording I'm only able to achieve 100-120fps on these settings you see here.

  • @ReylordFX
    @ReylordFX 2 місяці тому +1

    It's weird that WRC is the only game that won't be actually another yearly release, I guess the WRC games really don't need that.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      I'm actually really happy about that, I forgot to mention that in this video but I guess it isn't necessary to talk about considering the whole video is specifically about that. Lol

  • @kontoname
    @kontoname 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice to see you back! Hope things turn out well for you
    Now I'll watch the actual video 😉
    Yeah really good points. Agree on all of them except maybe the slow down. Realistically the cars should behave and drive and the same speed as IRL.
    I believe the weird speed effect is because of the horrible external camera and it's FOV. That really, really messes with the brain. I don't like 80% of the auto camera panning shots. Not good looking and as you said too much static around the car for it to look believable.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      The static environment really kills the realism for me, I know it's a lot to ask considering the game already has optimization issues as it is but hopefully one day. :)

  • @socks2441
    @socks2441 2 місяці тому +1

    8:13 "safetly cuture" i dont know why that offends me. i guess being a member of the work force im sick of how overkill and full of red tape everything has become because of 'safety' and yet they push you hard everyday and dont care about things like RSI. which is honestly worse than most actual injuries which heal.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @socks2441 lol I always get a bit triggered by that as well when I see that phrase. I will say that rally cars are some of the safest cars, I think. I mean, they are built for dangerous driving in extreme situations, so I would hope they were not pure death traps, but I feel you. Lol

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing I have no qualms about improving safety for wrc, I just get triggered by health and safety stuff in general.
      Like at work I hear ads multiple times a day on the radio encouraging us not to play cricket, or rugby, or go mountain biking etc etc on the weekend, because then we might not make it into work on Monday. Then it plays the motto "if you get hurt, who gets harmed?"
      I just find it annoying. What you do outside of work is nobody's business. Health and safety has gone too far these days.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      @socks2441 interesting...I can't believe they are discouraging sports...that's crazy to me.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing yeah. technically they just say to be careful, but the way it comes across is that they are discouraging it. i was shocked enough when it was mountain biking etc, but then they came after our national sports: cricket and rugby. (this is in new zealand).

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @socks2441 I mean rugby is pretty brutal lol but people love contact sports, always have and I think most likely always will. Modern day gladiators like ufc and such.

  • @fullnelson2961
    @fullnelson2961 2 місяці тому +3

    vr still broken for me

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      @@fullnelson2961 sad...perhaps one day...lol
      Whays your setup?

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому +1

      for everyone mate. oh well. i guess we are the niche. we can at least still play dirt rally 1, 2 and rbr rsf. and the new rally physics for ac.

  • @fullnelson2961
    @fullnelson2961 2 місяці тому +1

    sup guy

  • @bastonia1156
    @bastonia1156 2 місяці тому +2

    bro still the graphic outdated

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому +1

      Ya...really does. At the end of the day, it looks decent enough but still definitely more of a lateral move graphically from dirt rally 2.0 and even a downgrade in some ways. I bet wooden fences are still impenetrable. Lol

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 2 місяці тому

      @@SleepyPantsSimRacing especially if you play in vr. dirt rally 2.0 looks beautiful in vr. ea erc looks like a blurry ps1 game with low framerates and stuttering. dirt rally 1 looked better in vr with a gtx1060 back in the day than ea wrc could ever hope to achieve with my rtx3080ti. its ridiculous how far backwards we go in some ways. i guess at least it looks acceptable for standard non vr players though. very comparative to dirt rally 2.0. sometimes worse, sometimes better. albeit with more micro stuttering. so for most people its a non issue. for vr players its a complete game breaker. i spent money on this game and it sits there unused. i kind of feel cheated. i should not have bought it. but i saw 'vr support added' and i bought. little did i know it was still unplayable in vr. maybe if you have a 4090. although there are plenty of comments even from 4090 owners saying its not playable in vr.

  • @BRANDON.MUSTANG
    @BRANDON.MUSTANG 2 місяці тому +2

    Im out of this time...because physics and super low damage effect driving experience is fucking awful if compare to rbr...game looks very good so sad to see waisted potential of game...

    • @msum23
      @msum23 2 місяці тому

      it's a licensed game, damage is never going to be severe... can't compare that to a fan-modded game. If you keep it on the track, why would damage matter? There is stage-ending crashes already. Part damage is just calling for inconsistencies with collisions...

    • @BRANDON.MUSTANG
      @BRANDON.MUSTANG 2 місяці тому

      @@msum23 hi yes i know. Even i think om ok driver but i cant still keep car on the track allways example if crash into tree or wall basicly no damage on the car like it realy should be...if want it more realistic and think about your driving more where to take risk and where more safty. But no worriest i drive rbr ofcorse its not good looking as wrc. I hope others find happy in wrc game.

    • @SleepyPantsSimRacing
      @SleepyPantsSimRacing  2 місяці тому

      Damage is very poorly implemented in this game, it really is sad. I always said it would be better to have a hardcore damage mode and then have a soft core damage mode for newer players rather than force a soft meat stick in everyone's mouth...lol I mean I'll take a bite but I want that mouth resistance!!!