Raymond Ibrahim on the Crusades
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- Raymond Ibrahim joins the podcast to discuss his book "Defenders of the West" about the Crusades.
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I have read this book over several times, simply because it seems unbelievable that men were actually that courageous . Vlad Dracula and the mid 15th century warfare is the last chapter. Read each man's story. I like things that humble me and this history truly does.
Humbling and INSPIRATIONAL.
They weren't that courageous. It's more you being a coward.
@@FastestSpeakerscorner I am OK with being a 73 year-old cowardly great-grandmother. I do love to laugh, also.
youre content is so consistently helpful. thank you bro
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Jon, is this guy a time traveler? The dude looks like a crusader himself. Great conversation, btw.
I know 😂
I am not a Catholic, but I believe the Catholic church ought to be praised for defending the West, their faith and their fellow Christians.
So many good books, so little time. It is so important for Christian men to stay in God's word and educate themselves on Christian history. Social institutions and mainstream media are useless, and I actually believe that is by God's grace.
I have listened to several interviews and commentaries on this issue from both sides in the past few weeks. I found this interview to be the most authoritative and extremely helpful. Thank you, Gentlemen, and God bless you both!
I'm going to buy this book as soon as I can
Thank you brother for having this christian scholar on to help make clear what others make murky.
Yeah but what does he bench?
I read this book and it was fantastic. The bibliography says it all. He has done the work and it shows.
I’ve read 3 times both Defenders of the West and Sword and Scimitar written by this guy and they are by far my favorite books on this topic. Support this guy and buy his books!!! They are both available on Amazon!!!
Jon, you're a great interviewer my brother.
Thanks for doing this interview, Jon and Dr. Ibrahim.
Thank you. Excellent topic.
Saved for later! This should be a good one!
I hope you asked him about another crusade to the UK and Ireland??
Thank you for this interview
Great conversation, so important.
In addition to his book, on UA-cam there is (Real Crusades History). Great stuff
Interesting conversation.
He has a slip of the tongue at 49:30-meant “To be an Egyptian was to be a Christian.”
At the time of the Crusades, in Western Europe, there was no Christianity that existed outside of the Catholic Church. So it is kind of dumb for Protestants today to look back at the church at that time with an attitude of "Eeeeew Papists".
The Oriental Orthodox churches split after Chalcedon in the 5th Century. The Eastern Orthodox split in 1054. The 1st Crusade started in 1096. So your statement is blatantly untrue. Western Europe is not the extent of Christianity. It's also irrelevant because none of this affects the primary Protestant arguments against Roman Catholicism
You conflate the visible and invisible Church.
@stephenmolina3650 notice in my comment I was limiting my statement to western Europe.
I am not trying to nullify protestant arguments against catholicism, I am a protestant. My point is that even having a protestant vs. Catholic debate when discussing Christians who lived in a context before that was even a reality is ridiculous.
@@JRRodriguez-nu7po how?
@@PeterSawyer2626 ok, fair enough point. I do agree that the issues of the Reformation don't really come into play in that context. Though, I personally think it reflects part of the danger of the papacy in its role in the world. Especially some of the false promises made to Crusaders. Yet, faithful Christians could still be found all the same
John, you have a good reputation as a Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson style interviewer for Evangelicalism. You interview people, others might not, and these are very informing interviews.
Stay off that Tom Woods index card.
I asked my pastor if the 'Crusades' were something that believers today should own or disavow.
y'all gonna make me read this book aren't ya
Your own assurance of your salvation is most assuredly not the same as my assurance of. Your salvation.
I think of the crusaders as being of the same cloth as David’s mighty men . I don’t believe any of them would be given the keys of the city so to speak.
Yeah what did the Crusaders believe though? 🤔
This episode was an excellent discussion. So was the one on transgenderism.
For those “in the know” - would you recommend the book God’s War by Tyreman on the Crusades, or the Asbridge book, or others?
Jonathan Riley-Smith.
This is off topic… does he have purple hair or is that the video?
I'd follow Raymond into battle.
I absolutely agree modern Christian men have been emasculated.
I'm confused...I've heard that Baptists didn't come from the Catholic Church...so an IFB wouldn't view themselves as Protestant, hence giving a non-Catholic alternative to Christianity prior to Luther. Think I heard this from Spencer Smith. I could be wrong/mistaken. Need to brush up on my history :)
Some people in the IFB movement are ignorant of church history. There are some (not all) in the IFB and some other denominations that are ignorant of church history, that view themselves as the true continuation of the original church in Acts, and they see the other demoninatons as false denominations. It is an ignorant understanding of church history. But the Baptist church owes its origins to the Protestant movement.
Oh goodness
Baptists came out of the Puritan movement within the Church of England. We are essentially Congregationalists that rejected paedobaptism. IFBs are delusional.
You are correct, baptists were around very early, see Donatists and Anabaptists to start.
That’s a VERY controversial debatable issue/perspective!
Basically it’s not so but IFB goofballs will claim it to their dying breath.
No thinking Christian would be above the Just War theory. So were the Crusades a Just War? I don’t think he made the case. Defending our homeland, yes.
"let's wait til the marauding hoard is at our doorsteps before we do anything."
@@philipmurray9796that wont work unless God is on ur side.
Yes the Crusades were just because they reclaimed Christian lands that were conquered by the Arab Muslims.
Really? So the fact that thousands upon thousands, were killed, enslaved, and raped and force into conversions or payment or death doesnt convince you? All the lands that we're Christian taken and conquered?
Are you that dense?
Okay, wait. So who is this guy? He's not catholic, not protestant....is he orthodox? Secular? Doesnt that matter.
I dont understand this motivation to forsake the Biblical categories for what defines a Christian and those who aren't.
If you don't know the gospel or explicitly deny the gospel as Rome did in the 7th century then you arent a Christian.
These Catholic Crusaders could still be justified in their fighting of Islamic jihad without the need to distort what actually makes one a Christian.
Um....I just started this but is his hair purple? Dude c'mon!
Yes! Movie leads in action movies are women, and it’s simply unbelievable and unwatchable
"Christianity is traditionally very robust." Yes, but as Nietzsche noted, most or all of the church's saints were pacifists, not warriors. Their holiest men and women were supposed to be world-deniers, withdrawn ascetics, scholars, et al., not soldiers.
If you read Raymond’s book, there are plenty of “soldier” types too!
Nietzsche was a drug-addled loser who died of STDs.
Why is his hair purple?
It's not. Take your tinted glasses off.
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast I just checked it with a color sampler, and you're right, it's more of a blue.
All the crusaders were calvinists btw
Not sure if it's a joke, but the First Crusade took place in the eleventh century. John Calvin was born in the sixteenth century. Also, pretty weird to have Calvinists marching into the Holy Land at the say-so of the Pope.
57:01
It will almost certainly happen-it can almost certainly be prophesied-that in this saturnalia of sophistry there will at some time or other arise a sophist who desires to idealise cowardice.
GK Chesterton