I never thought, growing up and learning about suffragettes and all the women who paved the way for us, that someday I would have to explain my gender and actually be afraid. Not ever! Thank you Macy Gray for speaking up at what unfortunately could be of a personal cost to you.
What's hilarious is that the woke Left's definition of a woman changes depending on the topic. If the topic is athletics, a trans woman is 100% a woman. If the topic is abortion then a woman goes back to being defined by their vagina and reproductive organs. According to the woke Left's definition of a woman, don't men also have a say in abortion since men can get pregnant too?
It is amazing to me that we are living though a time that there is an element of our society that does not respect the sacrifices that many of our countrymen have made. GOOD BLESS AMERICA!! Respect our flag! Everyone loves each other and respect everyone.
"...Being a little girl is a whole EPIC BOOK, and you can't have that just because you want to be a woman." You can say that again!!! My childhood wasn't dressing up in pink clothes and copying makeup tutorials on UA-cam. I love being a woman, but my life wasn't glamorous at all!!! Males who want to be women do not understand that. They want the good time, phony parts they see on TV, but don't realize how nervewracking and complicated life as a young girl can be.
You think that being a trans woman is glamorous? They are very vulnerable to hate crimes and many of them face discrimination, being disowned by their families/friends, have a hard time finding romantic partners, and general disrespect from the world. As someone that is close to multiple trans people I know that it is not a choice for them and it is so much deeper than the clothes and makeup.
@@KaceDarbouze-Omolade your point ? Using your comparative….White people can have hard lives too it doesnt make them understand the complexities of race as it applies to black people Just because you transition doesnt mean you have experienced the nuances of being biologically female which is Macys point Oranges to apples
@@KaceDarbouze-Omolade I'm pretty sure every group has had to experience hate, ridicule, and dismissal from others due to what they look like, or where they come from, or a variety of different things about themselves that they cannot and should not change. It happens to EVERY group, that doesn't give one group the right to take another group's identity and then dismiss their feelings and rights!
@@KaceDarbouze-Omolade You sort of proved my point!!! Little girls have very different problems than hate crimes or being disowned for being girls, or hard time finding romantic partners for being a bio female. In fact, I work in a field dominated by women, so I can't even remember ever being discriminated against for gender. I'm not saying it's all about clothing or makeup because I've never had to worry about being confused for male no matter how plainly dressed I was. There was disrespect for other reasons sometimes. The transexuals people's problems you mentioned come when they decide to become trans. Our problems/experiences are different and start at birth. That's why they will NEVER know what it really is to be female. Anyway, that's my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own. But just because someone tells you how much emotional pain or things they dealt with are, or how they were treated, does not make what they say correct.
Me too. I don't even agree with half of what she says but she's so sweet I'm happy to listen. I would be interested in a body language expert explaining how she does that.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 You don't agree with what a woman is? You don't think our country is behind? You don't think we need to update our laws or expire very outdated laws.
People needs to remove gags from their mouth and speak the truth , We don't hate transgender , but taking my space , my sport , my freedom to speak as a woman who have a lot on my plate biologically because i will be called trans phobic noo big noo!! I am woman , biologically and all struggles that even if you change genitals you wont have the same struggles that biological women faces .
as a man, I question how "woman" someone could be if they've NEVER had to even contemplate having to deal with a period every month....THAT is PART of being a woman, for better or worse....
Exactly! I knew a person who transitioned. I knew them as male and eventually as female. When I simple brought up biological truths when the Lia Thomas thing came up I was automatically labeled as transphobic and all of the biological facts I stated were deemed to be bigoted. I do t care what ppl do with there own lives as long as it isn’t imposing on others and there is no denying the fact that trans women who go through male puberty have a biological advantage. I’m tired of ppl wanting us to believe the lies
What a delightful interview. The main contribution to it being so is because, for once, you didn’t talk over your guest and you actually listened to what she had to say. How I wish you did this for all your interviews Piers. This interview was really worth watching. Thank you.
This is so refreshing!!!!!! Finally someone said it, she explained it without cutting people down. The experience of being a girl and growing into a woman is something that cannot be duplicated, the same goes for men as well.
Do you want to get in a time machine and go back in time with Macy Gray? That is what she is intimating. If you do, then "Good Luck." You want Civil Rights for yourself but don't give a damn about others. Sad commentary. You may get what you want.
@@jessmorgan7738 I didn't have a problem with anything she said. Please do us all a huge favor and point out what she said specifically that could be an infringement on anyone's civil rights.
When she said "growing up as a little girl" explained it all!! So much goes into that as us being born a woman!!! We go through so much with our emotions and bodies. Well said 👏 👏💜💜
How is transgenderism not cultural appropriation? I remember when you couldn't cook a taco without being accused of cultural appropriation. Now all these males want to become women. I say hell no. You don't get hormones and have a penectomy and get to say you are a woman. Actually what you are is a man who had some medical procedures.
@@ninibugg6203 you can identify as whatever you want but when your choices start to have real life consequences like crushing biological womens skulls or breaking record after record in whatever competition, you'll be reminded of your biology. Stop watering down what it means to be a woman. The damn line should be drawn somewhere. There was a coach, i think they did some sort of track. The coach was telling the trans woman to fucking SLOW down. You can't deny science and reality while claiming you're on the side of science(not you specifically).
@@ninibugg6203 blue isn't male pink isn't female. Sensitivity isn't female. Toughness isn't male. Those are lies you have to believe to hold the ideological belief that gender is a social construct. Let's discard those falsehoods instead of doing the mental gymnastics you've just displayed. It's much simpler and beneficial to all. A woman or man can have any personality type, clothing style, and career but the one thing they can't to is change their gender.
@@ninibugg6203 my mother never forced me to play with dolls or wear pink. I did those things but I also played Nintendo and played with GI Joe's and Star Wars figures and climbed trees and got dirty. Being a girl doesn't boil down to those things. If you are not a woman then I can see how you might not understand, but if you are I am flabbergasted that you think that is all we are! We are the life givers of the world. And now people are trying to belittle us and make us less. WE ARE WOMAN! That is powerful! All of us women should protest this bs before they take the word MOTHER from the dictionary and all birth certificates. It should NOT be allowed to happen.
I love Macy! I was born in 1957 and grew up in a predominantly black community and my family was Caucasian. We were taught that the color of a person's skin was because of the amount of melanin in your skin, we were taught biology! My mom told us to pick our friends based on their integrity as a person, not the color of their skin and through out my 67 years I have always followed that principle.
Despite her soft voice and her childlike artistry people forget that this is a grown woman who’s lived almost 5 decades in this society. She’s earned the right to speak her truth. Period.
She's so childlike and honest in her responses that it's refreshing, endearing and beautiful. No guile, no trying to sound smart, no trying to be superior, just being yourself and being open. She's so beautiful ❤️
she is so earthy, grounded and humble, her energy is so calm and soothing even through the screen! What prince said to her "it's not about you." is something we can all take and adapt into our lives, especially this cristal generation that walks around feeling victimized and offended over everything, thinking the world owes them everything.
"Women go through just a completely unique experience. ... Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know. And you can't have that just because you wanna be a woman."
No one is "pushing" children to transition. Parents don't want their child to transition, but they don't want them to be suicidal or alcoholic either. We can guide and influence a person. Doctors trained in gender dysphoria are qualified to decide when transitioning will help a child. The parents must also give consent. If a misdiagnosed child starts to transition then stops, they generally have very little change to overcome. If a child cannot transition until adulthood they are forced to endure the wrong hormones for years. It's the same as telling a misdiagnosed child then can't stop taking the wrong hormones until they're adults. It's torture beyond imagining. Let's not forget many children are GREATFUL for their time as the opposite sex. THERE IS NO PERFECT SOLUTION. Yes! Exactly true! So choose the path with the most success. That's what doctors continue to do. The regret rate for children transitioning on hormones (age 16+) is around 2%. For some 2% is too much; yet they don't seem to realize that the reverse means 98% have regret to save the 2%.
Transgender women tend to have brain structures that resemble cisgender women, rather than cisgender men. Two sexually dimorphic (differing between men and women) areas of the brain are often compared between men and women. The bed nucleus of the stria terminalus (BSTc) and sexually dimorphic nucleus of transgender women are more similar to those of cisgender woman than to those of cisgender men, suggesting that the general brain structure of these women is in keeping with their gender identity. Several studies have shown that identical twins are more often both transgender than fraternal twins, indicating that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity. So, what genes might be responsible?
@@smokexsmoke99 Cisgender women? man, I hate liberal terminology!! just say "women". Also, if small children are mature enough to decide whether they want to "change" their gender then it's only fair to let children also vote and drive cars.
@@Dah42 Trans is a reality for a lot of people who’s external appearance doesn’t align with their internal thoughts and feelings. With a true trans child where it all really begins is with that internal feelings of being a girl or a boy.
Loved how clear, concise, succinct and genuine her response was on the woman thing. She explained it perfectly. Wanting to be called a woman is not the same thing as actually BEING a woman. You can't duplicate or identify into our experience. It's that simple.
Ok, but people do transition. When they do this, some look virtually indistinguishable from people born from the biological female sex. This means that they are treated by society as women. Due to this, do they not have a similar experience?
@@harigoodman7718 You made a really good point. People act like bleeding once a month or being able to get pregnant are the only real experiences there are for women to have.
@Princess The original poster said that transgender women cannot identify with the “experience” of women. I was making the point that fully transitioned trans women have much of the same experience as cisgender women as they are treated very similarly by society. This means I disagree with the idea that trans women don’t live as women or have a similar experience.
@Princess I’m not talking about transition either. I’m saying how transgender women present after transition is very similar to cisgender women. This results in them having similar and therefore shared experiences which many would consider a part of womanhood. I understand that the experiences of menstruation especially are quite large parts of being women. However, many women do not get periods (some never start a period). But, they are still women aren’t they? So surely living as a woman in society (dealing with how others treat you, gender roles and stereotypes) is a more significant part of being a woman as it is something that all women experience and throughout all stages of their life? The fact that they can’t have kids doesn’t mean anything. Quite a lot of women are infertile due to conditions such as PCOS. They’re still women. Even women who can conceive, they may have different goals and objectives in life and may not want to have kids. A trans woman can still adopt, have a surrogate, have a child biologically if they are a gay couple (using sperm banks before transitioning). There are plenty of ways a trans women can still be a mother.
Just over looking the part where trans women have similar brain chemistry or structure as cis women. That is the reason for the disphoria They don't just think or feel like a woman They have identical brain activity as a typical woman.
As I just said to another privileged woman. All trans women want is a better life and TO NOT GET MURDERED (which is happening at an alarming rate). Nothing is being taken from you. Classifying trans women as "women" or "real women" will not harm you at all, but it has the capacity to help them from being murdered. So, it is your choice . . . murder or let them live? I say that if allowing trans women to be classified as women helps save one life, then let it be. Why are you seeing this as such a threat to your life? You are not in danger like trans women are. You clearly are looking at this from some bias, and that is what is most alarming. If I were the parent of a trans child, I would not allow you to babysit my child.
The things that a woman's body goes through cannot be handled by men, and a woman's body cannot handle the things that a man's body goes through. The things that we go through would absolutely kill a man if he had to experience those things. We are build totally different, and no matter how many surgeries, hormones that are taken, or what someone tells themselves, we will never be able to change DNA. Love yourself and stop pretending to be something that you are not. And a phobia is a fear of something. Since the 50's or 60's people have been messing up the English language and definitions. They are really messing up this generation and future generations by inappropriately using pronouns. Just ridiculous. Macy Gray just spoke truth. People will tell themselves anything to justify their wants.
Agreed! There is a distinct difference between men and women and no amount of surgeries, hormone replacements, or make up can change that. It is disrespectful to not only lay claim to the opposite sex but then to also tell women they shouldn't speak up about their sex. That's why I disagree with entertaining any delusions that someone can change their sex in any capacity. We, as women, need to stand up for our own sex and stop playing pretend to placate their adult feelings.
Thank you, Macy -- being a "Woman" and a girl, encompasses so much more than just the sum of your parts. Going through puberty, the confusion of your first period and beyond that, a history of fighting battles for justice, equity and representation -- all of that being narrowed down to hormones, new fleshy parts and an absence of other parts. It's as if women must reclaim our humanity -- we've been "othered" and made to feel as if we exist in theory only... Bell Hooks might have been canceled & ostracized simply for naming her famous and groundbreaking work: "Ain't I a Woman"... Such strange times we live in...
So you transphobes claim that transgender people just pretend in order to get easy access to the opposite sex? I guess whoever thinks so has no clue about gender dysphoria and not interacted with affected people. I have a transgender boy in my house, and he can't help have a male identity... even though his body is female. There is a mismatch between brain and body, hard-wired into the brain, it is just a biological fact. He can't switch to the identity that matches his biological sex, just as we cis folks can't do the reverse. That's just a stubborn fact
There's a very small segment of society that doesn't identify as their gender at birth. These are people born with female genitals and male genitals who just don't identify with their gender. It's not any kind of assault on woman's rights. It's hard to get housing and a job as a transgender person, it's really just about giving people the dignity of being themselves and not being discriminated against. I think you would be hard pressed to find a transgender individual that doesn't support women's rights. From equal pay to anti-discriminatory policy and beyond. There's a lot of really good people in the transgender community. The vast majority of transgender people just want to work and live normally like everyone else and have healthy relationships.
@@ChocolateShakti Bell Hooks' book title is based on the speech written by Sojourner Truth and it's called "Ain't I a Woman" -- I own the book and it's beautifully written, just as timely and almost as powerful as Sojourner's historic speech!
@@DmanDice when trans women feel the need to put their hands on people for being offended you would backtrack as well if you weren’t walking around with guards 24/7
You probably grew up listening to her music so it's nostalgia. I wasn't a huge R & B fan when I was a child but I remember seeing her on the first spiderman film in 2002 so seeing her always reminds me of my childhood.
macy said nothing malicious. it was sincere and from the heart. I appreciate her braveness. she made me proud to be from USA, black, and a woman. she showed respect to the trans community by saying i don't agree with you but support you. it is okay to not agree yet be respectful as pierce and macy reminded us of with this interview. everyone stop letting our differences define everyone
why don't you agree? JK rowling was also respectful, heartfelt she got so much abuse it was shocking. but no man can ever be a woman, we now have men with sexual fetish for being women end up in prisons with women, raping them. and in their spaces. weilding power to change the defintion of woman. as a biologist major and a woman, and a south asian women in a country where girls get murdered for their sex when they are fetuses. all this lies about gender are pushing womens rights to a difficult position
I don’t know. I feel as though the LQBTQ community isn’t happy or content until people not only let them be, but then have to promote their lifestyle and praise it. I can’t do that. I won’t. I respect their right to be what they want but cannot and will not praise or promote it. To them, if often seems they call you transphobic for that opinion.
She is one of the first celebrities I have seen to actually tell the truth by stating that racism is a personal aspect of an individual. Other than the flag thing I find I agree with a lot of her views. And while I disagree with her about the flag I can see where she is coming from and I don't think she comes at it with malice or hate.
This is the best I have seen on pair’s show. Genuine, real conversation. No arguing or provoking each other. She made a lot of sense and in a calm, lady like way. Thank you for sharing
i give this woman a standing ovation she said we need to let it go well done she hit the nail on the head let go of the hang up's Macy gray certainly is not a snowflake she is a warrior this woman is talking the truth .. bring her back soon
She is living proof that true beauty starts from the inside and then exudes to the outside . I don’t even have to know this woman to know that she is a wonderful person.
Because you strongly agree with her on one topic?? lol I do agree with her too by the way but I wouldn't say she's a "wonderful" person based just on that
@@DmanDice because they're going to do everything in their power to destroy her life for speaking the truth how can anybody in his right mind can even believe because of couple of surgeries a man can become a woman or woman can be man this is the biggest lie in the history of human being on this planet
I'm kind of split down the middle when it comes to transgenderism. On one hand, I agree with Macy Gray when she says trans women and female women are not the same thing. That's a fact, one is male the other is female. However, I also can understand people who state that gender and sex are not the same thing. If you actually research, their argument makes sense. Gender IS a socially constructed thing. For example, females are "supposed" to be Women, who wear pink and womanly things, display softer, "feminine" traits, while males are "supposed" to be men, who wear blue and manly things, display harder, "masculine" traits. These things aren't how some biological males and females are, so it's not fair to force males to be "men" and females to be "women". What if there's a natural born male who caters to being what society considers "womanhood" rather than "manhood", and therefore identifies as a woman? Not as a FEMALE, but as a WOMAN.
@@ninibugg6203 what's wrong with just calling transwomen transwomen? Why try to silence actual biological women just to make room for transwomen? A woman is a female and a male is a man. They can both be transmen or transwomen. When you leave the word trans out, you are going out of your way to muddy the water.
What sucks is that she's actually right about everything, and you can tell that she's approaching all of these issues as an artist/thinker, instead of a politician. That doesn't matter to people that only see politics in everything. Even her more "liberal" points like the flag stuff I agree with her on and I'm glad Piers showed the early American flag so that she had an opportunity to point out how ridiculous it is that people are so precious about our current flag that's only been around for a short time. I don't personally aesthetically like her new flag concept, but that isn't the point.
Don't agree with her on the flag, but so refreshing to see someone not afraid to say what a woman is! This gender ideology woke madness has gone waaaay too far, and it's time for people to speak out against the madness! She sums it up perfectly "But it's the truth!" So great to hear people who may not agree on things, but can have a civil conversation!
Go to your child's school and make it clear that this is NOT OK when your 13.yo. child comes home and says he is bisexual.. Tell them that you are NOT giving any concent to any sexual indoctrination of minors. I did. Every parent must do the same. The woke gone too far.
I agree with this. The stars of the flag represent states, not the color of the people living there. Using her logic, since women are the majority of the country and did not have rights back when the flag was created, should we put a Venus symbol on the flag? No, because it was understood that the flag did not mean power or control over women, it represented all who lived under it, including women of the time.
as a woman, i’m offended that ppl are changing MY identity. trans ppl prove again that no one gives a fk about women, it’s always about other ppl and their feelings. all the shit i go through like periods, period pain, pregnancy, birth, postpartum, breastfeeding are what make me a strong woman. ur not a woman LIKE ME just cuz u changed ur parts. that’s not fair or right. ur not a real woman, ur a transwoman. PERIOD
No ones taking away your identity. Feminism stops when you tear down something to achieve it. Stop being so insecure, if you don’t see them as real women then you shouldn’t be threatened. Weakling.
@@xenogeve8163 oh peak victim blaming! Always women's fault eh? If we notice that a men's sexual rights movement is attempting to (in the US, succeeding) erase our identity & legal rights & speak against that then WE are weaklings? DO ONE
@@xenogeve8163 It’s not about insecurity or viewing them as competition. It’s about how society views biological women. My cousin is a trans woman and they don’t like men at all. They don’t like men because they are abusive towards her for having a feminine appearance and she’s used by misogynistic men to fuel more hate towards the gender/sex they truly believe they are. Please stop trying to invalidate women, in the most stereotypical way, as being “jealous” when trans women are telling us what men are doing themselves.
I could never imagine that these days would come when we are happy if someone dares to say what a woman is. I am very grateful for Macy and J. K. Rowling for being our voice, however it is very sad that we are here in 2022.
What is ironic is that the political party that supports this madness is the same political party that most women support!! This is as ironic as blacks supporting the same political party that used to defend slavery, segregation and then created planned parenthood--which targets black kids in the womb. If nothing changes, the democratic party will succeed at destroying women's sports and many other things that used to belong to women.
This is something I always wonder. How does someone "Know" what being the opposite gender is like when you've never experienced it? How can you feel like something you've never been. I think SOME non binary and trans people have a fantasy of what being the opposite gender is like based on stereotypes. I'm not saying there are no legit cases.
the BEST they can do is SPECULATE....we KNOW men and women think differently. It's preposterous and asinine to think that one could KNOW how the other gender thinks....it's arrogant and conceited....it's irrational and downright CRAZY
its so so SO true. If you remove biology from the equation then what does being a woman even mean? The trans notion of gender is so sexist. its about clothes. Its also very conservative. Girls like pink and wear dresses and if you like pink and wear dresses then you must be a girl. That's absurd.
@@ktwashere5637 Exactly. I saw a fully trans "Man" on youtube complaining he doesn't understand other men or how men think and behave, and wishes he could still play on women's sports teams, and relates to women socially and emotionally. This person clearly doesn't understand men because they're not a man! I don't know how they think they're male.
@@robjohnson9270 Rob Johnson exactly, how can I know what a girl goes through emotionally and physically, with Puberty, periods, emotions, Cramps, body changes, hormones etc. And women's sexual expression is totally different to men, whether gay or straight.
Very good discussion. Macy is so right, the things we women go through as girls and women are sometimes horrific and painful, and I'm pretty sure men couldn't tolerate periods and pregnancy LOL. We love you, Macy!
And there’s a lot women couldn’t tolerate that men have to endure. Men constitute 91.5% of the World’s hard labor, high mortality rate blue collar jobs of the world in areas of transport, construction, sanitation and freight and defense. Women complain about cuts they receive when shaving their legs, while many men must shave their faces daily luckily avoiding the Jugular Vein while enduring barbers rash and other skin afflictions. Why is it that when a ship sinks, it’s women and children that evacuate first? I can certainly understand the children, but why women? Your vagina can’t impregnate itself without support from a penis now can it? Why are women always favored in divorces? Why is it that a young man will give his seat up for an elderly woman or man, yet a young woman will not give up her seat for an elderly man?? Why are women firefighters and female military service members paid the same as their male counterparts yet, their physical test and lift standards are less? This means in a time of war, who has to supplant the difference to complete the mission? A hint; it’s not the female. When are women going to be required to sign up for the nation’s Selective Service Act? It’s mandatory for men, why not you women? Let’s not play the “tradition gender” game as that would put you as a woman, back into the kitchen barefoot and pregnant right? Again, there is no excuse for men to be the only gender to be forced to register for the SSA. Pain? How many pain medications and over the counter pain relievers are there for menstrual cramps? Many!!! Yet, women can’t seem to control their periods or prep themselves for a timed projected monthly bodily function - just a lot more easier to take your mood swings and nasty temperament out on the men around you for a pity party. You do know that men’s kidney stones are so severe that many pass out from the pain - try finding an over the counter pain medication for that. You know what I got for my stones when hospitalized? Yes, Demerol!!! Now who else gets Demerol for their pain during childbirth? When you women equalize out the impartiality of the aforementioned pain and gender comparisons to a 50/50 scale, then come talk to me about what men can’t endure. Now run along… you’re done here
@kizzerd Whatever men have to "endure" isn't inescapably forced on them by biology and occurring like clockwork for your best years. Unless she has some type of disorder or she's pregnant, a woman MUST bleed and experience pain every month that she can't get away from. Just accept that there is no comparison between what women and men have to go through. None. The original comment was about the trials and tribulations of WOMEN, yet you felt the need to chime in about men's struggles, which they usually cause on themselves. Stop trying to compete as if there is any equivalence that men must suffer through. There isn't one. This is not about you. Everything is not about men, you should've sat this one out and just agreed. That's all you can really do, because you have no idea what women have to deal with!
Great interview. Macy seems a really genuine person. I saw her live 23 years ago. Brilliant show, very entertaining, and I'm into my rock and metal. She was playing before a band I wanted to see at a festival, so I watched her show. Glad I did, she's very funny on stage.
Aww bless her. She’s a sweetie. You can tell she’s just being honest. Not trying to fit in with some trendy political agenda. That’s much more rock and roll than most of today’s rockstars.
The fact is, i was born as a woman, I grew up in that role, this is who I am. I gave birth to a beautiful baby girl and that is who she is. No man wanting to be a woman can claim that and take that away from us. If you want I will call you a a transwoman, because that is what you are. You can wear your crown as a transwoman, and be proud of that and I will stand behind you and fight for your rights with you, but I will wear my own crown as a born and raised proud woman and no one will take that from me!
@@elizabethtrainer9732 not from me alone from all of us women, and wr are all trying to hard to be woke that we are loosing sight off what is actually going on, there are people from the trans community trying to tske the title of woman away from actual women and call us baby makers. I support and love all people and everyone has the right to live their authentic life, God bless us all, but i am not going to teach my beautiful daughter that she can no longer be called a woman because it offense transwomen, and if you dont know that this is happening, stand back and just look♥️ i want all trans people to feel safe and that their feelings matter, but so does mine
Everyones experiences are unique, be it a woman or a man. Sure, men can not experience periods but men experience lots of things women can't. But in the end, no two men are equal, the same way no two women are identical. Everyones experience of womanhood or manhood is unique for the matter. We are all human beings, so it is all a valid human experience determined by our genetic heritage. And believe it or not, you can influence your experience by the way you live and present yourself to the world, because humans are social creatures. It is the way we socialise that ultimately provides for the main component of our experience as humans.
@@T-Mello her point was men can not be women. Regardless of any surgery a man may get to present as one. Of course men's experiences are different. I don't want to experience everything a man does because I am a woman. I love that we are different. I also understand what a woman is as does Macy.
Absolutely nothing wrong with what she said. She is right! Especially with the things little girls and women go through! Also, it’s becoming extremely frustrating that we can no longer have individual opinions. Everyone doesn’t have to agree or think alike. If it’s not rooted in hate or inciting violence, stop trippin….. But removing the female symbol from feminine products. Saying “pregnant people” instead of “pregnant women” Getting offended because a nurse calls you a mom after GIVING BIRTH Saying we shouldn’t assign a gender to a baby when….ummm there’s obviously a difference between a boy and a girl It’s becoming absolutely ridiculous! Please stop!
It's scary. The confusing things I see in stores. I went to the mall a few weeks ago and picked out some things from this store there, and there was a sticker taped up on the plastic thing in front of the cashier that said "we prefer they/them to him or her. They/them. I thought about it alot that day, trying to figure out how I would say this to someone without sounding ridiculous. I didn't even know how I was supposed to use these words instead of him or her. Think about it. Think about referring to a person you're talking about in a sentence, and instead of saying "he" or "she", say "they" or "them". It sounds silly. The whole thing is silly, in my opinion, but there are crazy things happening in this world everywhere.
@@Chelsea-lp1gc insanity. I support her 💯 I put a video up in support of her. She was screwed over for nothing. She did nothing wrong. I have seen the they/them labeling too. Insanity. SMH. I'm 51 have been saying woman man half a century.
@@tinastanley4444 I thought I was going crazy for a second with the they/them thing. At first I really thought it was a joke because it was a store in the mall kind of known for not being serious. But no. This is really happening. I'm 28, but I feel like everything going on right now with society is just getting weirder and weirder. And yes, I disagree with this weirdness where nothing makes sense. And I totally stand with her on this too. She was not disrespectful about it, just saying how she feels.
@@Chelsea-lp1gc your not going crazy love the world has gone bonkers sweetheart, when I saw the they/them sticker I was at one of those dollar stores. And like you was confused 😕 . I'm 51 love and have been saying woman man or transgender or Lgbtq but back in my day it was just the LGB community. And women were proud to be women. It breaks my heart young girls like yourself are forced to live in this ever changing WEIRD world. You deserve the peace and freedom I grew up with. MACY as you said did nothing wrong. If anything the person who put her on the spot in this climate we are living in now really pit her in the hot seat by asking her what she thinks a woman is. Of course she has to make a living like most of us and the "hollyweird" "I'm sorry for nothing" thing is out of control. I've been saying woman for half a century. I'm not trying to learn all this identify as language. My memory isn't what it used to be either. Lmao but you feel me. I will show respect 💯 if a person is deserving of respect. Not just put of fear I'll say woman or whatever new wave jargon. I've had my um going to change the world revolution in the 80s and early 90s. I am friends with a transgender Woman. And she fought her whole life to be called WOMAN. You seem like a really nice young woman and I'm with ya 100%
@@MissJade805 By defining us correctly and not going along with this push for MEN to co-opt our identities, spaces in the world, career opportunities (especially in sports), and essentially set any progress we've made back 100 years or more because MEN think that being a woman now only consists of their saying so--no parts even need to change! I actually received college credit in the '80s to learn all about "transexuals" at SF State, used to think I was so ahead of the curve in terms of what I knew about them, was in a punk band with a transwoman (no bottom surgery but at least hormones) and would always address her to reflect how she presented herself. Just like the abortion issue, this shit has gone too far (like abortion AFTER birth) and classical liberal values have been completely exploited for other agendas, like trafficking body parts and pushing for TRANSHUMANISM. F MEN in women's prisons, shelters, lockerrooms, bathrooms, bookclubs, sports or anywhere else that means WOMEN can't be safe, successful or just be themselves. I am still waiting to read about transmen breaking down the doors to compete against real men. Why is that? Because we have systematically lowered the expectations of what it means to be a man and because it is OBVIOUS that it would not be a fair competition and they would be creamed. Maybe for every transwoman who wants to compete, "she" needs to secure a transman to do the same. Or better yet, create trans competitions. That would be entertaining to watch that group decide on the rules!
I am SO grateful that another celebrity finally has the courage to say the truth outloud. J.K. Rowling has had to carry this burden alone for long enough. More public figures and celebrities need to stand up for women, women's rights and the truth. Thank you, Macy and Piers! ❤
Appearantly you have to have a uterus/breast in order to be a woman. Interestingly enough, plenty don’t. So the question is..what makes a woman a woman? (on a cellular level)
Back in the 90s there was a trend to take a Toyota MR2, strip the body off and replace it with a Ferrari body kit. It may look like a Ferrari at quick glance, but when you look closely you knew something didn't look right. The owners could try and fool people that they had a Ferrari, but underneath it will always be a Toyota, the registration documents will call it a Toyota, and when it goes to the scrapyard and the aftermarket parts have been taken off it'll only ever be recognised as a Toyota.
She’s such a doll! Totally agree with her and hate the thought of someone so gentle and authentic being the target of major backlash like she’s revived. Proud of you Macy! 💜✨
I don’t understand how people can expect to be physically accepted as something they aren’t and never ever will be able to be.. it’s nobody’s fault, and we’re not saying it to hurt your feelings, and yes I feel very sorry for you but someone physically born a male can’t and will never be able to fully relate to someone physically born female. It’s due to biology and hormones and the fact that those hormones actually affect a females life very noticeable every single month throughout life.. it is a HUGE part of being a female, and a HUGE part that separates males from females. Female/male, X/Y, call it what you want, but there are two different body types which are unchangeable in terms of function and physical attributes, beyond aesthetics, and no human will ever be able to relate to the other sex in all of those differences, simply because you weren’t born into that body! How anybody can suggest otherwise is beyond me, because even they know these facts are true.. 🤷🏼♀️
Thank you Macy, Bette Midler and JK Rowling for the courage to speak up and tell the truth. These are such sad times we live in, when in order to be "inclusive" towards one group, you have to use disrespectful and demeaning language towards another group, namely women. It has to stop.
@@BassHeadsProduction it's not about "having a true backbone" it's about still maintaining your career after saying those things lol while i still don't see what was offensive about what Macy has said, i still know that others will be offended by it. And by "others" i mean her fans, her record labels, her crew that works for her and so on. There's a long list of people who works for her as well so i guess this is why she had to apologize (Even if she didn't even have to do that) It sucks that the world has come to this but i guess this is the "new normal" nowadays. It's sad but it's true.
Yes, right. She is speaking with solid thought and reasoned intellect. I hope she doesn't get done in by expressing herself in public. She is humble and smart. I dig it.
@@kathyscott9219 destroying something that gave u the freedom to speak about changing is mind boggling. I would want some of these swj to go to north Korea for a year. They'll come back begging for American freedom.
That is not as original as you think it is. You discount and disrespect (along with Macy Gray) a whole group of oppressed people who are murdered at an alarmingly disproportionate rate each year.
@@Lastdayone Nope, trans people just don't want to get murdered. Your are (like many on here "projecting"). I detect some misplaced anger. And who is "they?" You were not real clear because it would make your insensitive comment less cute. So again, why are you in trans people's business? Don't you have something better to do than bother the most oppressed group at this juncture in history? Or do you want to go back in time? It seems like you want the time machine. If you can find one, then please get in it.
@@jessmorgan7738 They are not the most oppressed group. Not at this juncture in history or any other. Whether your contrast refers to socio-cultural or biological groupings, they still are not the most oppressed. I also do not believe they are a biological group, so to compare them to, say, Native Americans is irrelevant and trivializes the oppressive ghettos they still occupy. I also do not see them enduring prison due to a corrupt war on drugs. I believe 100% that trans people should be able to live their lives and find happiness, but I detest these contrasts.
We need middle grown here, transwoman is transwoman, woman is woman, adult human female. Transwoman is a person with body modification and hormones to be like woman. Why embarrassed of who you are, just be proud to be transwoman if you are , and say it out loud, transwoman is transwoman. There is a difference and dont hijack word woman from actual woman.
Totally agree with you, there's nothing wrong with being a transwoman. Why can't anyone have a difference of opinion anymore? There are millions that will never accept a transwoman and the other half who give zf's.
I completely agree with everything that she said . I’m all for everyone being who they want to be , but glorifying being a woman is just getting out of hand .. if you’re not born a biological woman , I’m sorry but you’re not a real woman .. surgery can transform anyone , but what she said saying “being a little girl is a whole epic book & you can’t have that because you want to be a woman” . Well said Macy , finally someone had the gall to speak some truth . If you don’t have the female reproductive system .. sorry but you’re not a woman.
Right ? Is it much more complicated than "Bro, you got a dick, you're a man. If you want to believe you're a woman in your own fantasy world, I don't give a damn f**k. but come on bro, you're a dude :p" ?
@@ninibugg6203 Women are adult human females who produce eggs, men are adult human males who produce sperm. A trans-woman who was a man but transitions his gender to female is still a man because biologically sex can't change. A particular part of his brain may be similar to women that makes him think that he's a woman, but he is not a woman and will never be a woman. Same goes for trans-men who are women and undergo gender transitioning...even with all the voice deepening and beard growth and breast removal, they will never be men because biologically in all their cells and with their egg production and pregnancy capabilities they are women. It's not really that hard of an issue, but extremist ignorant Trans activists don't like the facts of biology e.g. that sex is immutable, sex can't change. You can change gender, but you can't change sex.
are you ladies jealous the "FAKE" ladies will take your men from you? If all the transgendered are considered real women, some of you may be out of business. lol.just kidding
So let me ask you this: If you can't tell the difference between two people/object, is there any difference between them? If there are no experiments that can distinguish the two, then as far as we know, they are identical. Take Jessica Alves. She's a transitioned woman, but you'd never know if she wasn't open about it. Good luck distinguishing her in a group of non-trans cis women. So you might ask: But what about the genitals? Well, she had her penis turned into a vagina. They are extremely skilled at this, and so you'd never know here either. If she wanted, she could have any man she wanted and they would never know. Does she have breasts? Also yes. Femininity is not a birthright. It is a state of mind and a way of presenting yourself that anyone can adopt.
I love Macy. I met her in 2000 when I had just walked off stage after my performance at The Scala in London and she came over and complimented me for my performance and energy on stage. To this day I have always admired her personality and the person she is. She just seems like a really in tune person and I personally don't see anything wrong with what she's saying here. Never change who you are Macy, thats who we all fell in love with from the get go ❤
Why disagree with gender transitioning? It's not your life or your business. You can't know what goes on inside a transgender person. However, cisgender women have lifelong experiences that are different than males. The map of a female's life does not include a lot of male experiences and male privilege is a whole different reality. Expectations for each gender are different whether they should be or not.
@@avriladams4670 because they consistently bully women and invade their spaces. Because some of them suggest gender transitioning for toddlers. Because women can't be called women, they are now "cisgendered." They MADE it everyone else's business and we refuse to give the space we fought to take. Oh AND Because JK Rowling correctly said that you can't change sex. Sex and gender are not interchangeable. And they sent her death threats. If you don't see why everyone else is mad about the gender transitioning, you got some serious blinders
@@avriladams4670 To even ask "why disagree with gender transitioning" shows that you have done nothing but ignore people with differing opinions to yours. If you haven't figured out by now why people disagree with it, then maybe you should open your eyes, think rationally and LISTEN to people, especially women when it comes to this issue.
@@avriladams4670 if it's not our life or our business, do not ask us to participate in your transition by forcing us to call you that which you're not.
Womanhood is not something you can just be inducted into, it's a lifelong process. Just like how you can't claim to be another race just because you ''feel'' like you were that race your whole life. Unlike a lot of ''men'' out there, Macy Gray actually has major balls. Lol jk, no offense to the alphabet people. Just breaking balls here. Kudos to her!
Being created a female. The epoch experience of being a little girl, developing into a teenager. Experiencing menstruation. Having a baby. The stress of having to get a biopsy on your female parts. We earned that. Ya'll didnt.
Don't forget about if you want to have a baby our clock starts ticking down at 30 and after 35, you are very lucky if you are able to conceive. Men don't have clock for having a baby. We do.
I mean, to be honest, transgender men could counter-argue that they had to go through surgeries and hormones and we didn't lol. But I don't think it has to do with "what women go through"...it's just reality. You can feel feminine, dress feminine, have a feminine personality, but that doesn't change your biological sex. And to ignore that is living in denial.
Macy Gray was spot on with her comments about what a Woman is, I can’t believe we are having conversations like this. She speaks up for what she believes in. I watched this interview with her and Piers she came across as a lovely soul.
And other people speak up for what they believe in. She ought to have met my half-brother before he was my half-brother and afterwards. He sure as s#1t isn't a woman, I don't care what he was born as. And that's me speaking up for what I believe in.
I never thought, growing up and learning about suffragettes and all the women who paved the way for us, that someday I would have to explain my gender and actually be afraid. Not ever! Thank you Macy Gray for speaking up at what unfortunately could be of a personal cost to you.
Spot on. ❤️🙏❤️
Crazy isn't it??
What's hilarious is that the woke Left's definition of a woman changes depending on the topic. If the topic is athletics, a trans woman is 100% a woman. If the topic is abortion then a woman goes back to being defined by their vagina and reproductive organs. According to the woke Left's definition of a woman, don't men also have a say in abortion since men can get pregnant too?
It is amazing to me that we are living though a time that there is an element of our society that does not respect the sacrifices that many of our countrymen have made. GOOD BLESS AMERICA!! Respect our flag! Everyone loves each other and respect everyone.
The battle has to be fought again, and it must be women who fight it.
The amount of pure PRIDE and JOY I feel when a beautiful and fearless WOMAN speaks out against this nonsense. THANK YOU MACY!!!
You can also be that person
Bunch of bigots n fascists
Ilsa Schader I am. I have no friends because of it, and half of my family doesn’t speak to me, but I am.
@@dewilew2137 No FREINDS because of it. Same here. But I will always speak truth and fact in the face of losing friends.
@@dewilew2137 I’m with you ….appreciate all those who speak the TRUTH!
"...Being a little girl is a whole EPIC BOOK, and you can't have that just because you want to be a woman."
You can say that again!!! My childhood wasn't dressing up in pink clothes and copying makeup tutorials on UA-cam. I love being a woman, but my life wasn't glamorous at all!!! Males who want to be women do not understand that. They want the good time, phony parts they see on TV, but don't realize how nervewracking and complicated life as a young girl can be.
You think that being a trans woman is glamorous? They are very vulnerable to hate crimes and many of them face discrimination, being disowned by their families/friends, have a hard time finding romantic partners, and general disrespect from the world. As someone that is close to multiple trans people I know that it is not a choice for them and it is so much deeper than the clothes and makeup.
@@KaceDarbouze-Omolade your point ?
Using your comparative….White people can have hard lives too it doesnt make them understand the complexities of race as it applies to black people
Just because you transition doesnt mean you have experienced the nuances of being biologically female which is Macys point
Oranges to apples
@@KaceDarbouze-Omolade I'm pretty sure every group has had to experience hate, ridicule, and dismissal from others due to what they look like, or where they come from, or a variety of different things about themselves that they cannot and should not change. It happens to EVERY group, that doesn't give one group the right to take another group's identity and then dismiss their feelings and rights!
@@KaceDarbouze-Omolade You sort of proved my point!!! Little girls have very different problems than hate crimes or being disowned for being girls, or hard time finding romantic partners for being a bio female. In fact, I work in a field dominated by women, so I can't even remember ever being discriminated against for gender. I'm not saying it's all about clothing or makeup because I've never had to worry about being confused for male no matter how plainly dressed I was. There was disrespect for other reasons sometimes.
The transexuals people's problems you mentioned come when they decide to become trans. Our problems/experiences are different and start at birth. That's why they will NEVER know what it really is to be female.
Anyway, that's my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own. But just because someone tells you how much emotional pain or things they dealt with are, or how they were treated, does not make what they say correct.
@@cu5864 Right!!! You said it more briefly than I could.
“Being a little girl is a whole epic book” is an entire explanation in itself
Thank you for speaking up for women. You’re such a breath of fresh air.
I love her quirky personality. She a honest person and down to earth.
Me too. I don't even agree with half of what she says but she's so sweet I'm happy to listen. I would be interested in a body language expert explaining how she does that.
She has a soulful singing voice too.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 You don't agree with what a woman is? You don't think our country is behind? You don't think we need to update our laws or expire very outdated laws.
@@christineperez7562 no I don't agree the American flag should have different colour stars. The flag is fine as it is.
that’s not quirky that’s tweaker
People needs to remove gags from their mouth and speak the truth , We don't hate transgender , but taking my space , my sport , my freedom to speak as a woman who have a lot on my plate biologically because i will be called trans phobic noo big noo!! I am woman , biologically and all struggles that even if you change genitals you wont have the same struggles that biological women faces .
You took the words out of my mouth!!
I second that
as a man, I question how "woman" someone could be if they've NEVER had to even contemplate having to deal with a period every month....THAT is PART of being a woman, for better or worse....
Exactly! I knew a person who transitioned. I knew them as male and eventually as female. When I simple brought up biological truths when the Lia Thomas thing came up I was automatically labeled as transphobic and all of the biological facts I stated were deemed to be bigoted. I do t care what ppl do with there own lives as long as it isn’t imposing on others and there is no denying the fact that trans women who go through male puberty have a biological advantage. I’m tired of ppl wanting us to believe the lies
PREACH!!!
What a delightful interview. The main contribution to it being so is because, for once, you didn’t talk over your guest and you actually listened to what she had to say. How I wish you did this for all your interviews Piers. This interview was really worth watching. Thank you.
E talked about his interviewing techniques with Jordon Peterson...
Can't be the 1st time they have met. They were comfortable with each other
Were we watching the same video?
This is so refreshing!!!!!! Finally someone said it, she explained it without cutting people down. The experience of being a girl and growing into a woman is something that cannot be duplicated, the same goes for men as well.
She wants to "reboot" the Constitution because "it's a new day". What is refreshing about that?
BEAUTIFULLY SAID💖
There is a vulnerability about her that is so endearing. She speaks from her heart
She has no choice to. Only certain people can get angry.
@@christineperez7562 what ?
Yes it’s very childlike
And that’s the way it should be, speaking from the heart. We cannot agree on everything but that doesn’t make you my enemy.
She speaks from a place of ignorance.
I was never a fan of her music.. but after this very calm debate. I like and admire her alot. She makes alot of sense.
Same. I wanna hug her.
It’s not a debate though 🤔
a lot
"Not a fan of her music, but now that I know she's a transphobe...."
bro, give "i try" a try, and you would be a fan of her music
I really like it when the host and interviewee get on well and appear to have a genuine connection.
Macy Gray has bigger balls than almost all the male celebrities in America.. Speak the truth Macy!
She’s always been based.
She’s never really given a f**k
Nope...she's a real women....that means no balls 🙂
F3males get way more chances than men STOP IT
Dave got em
@@JoshTheTechnoShaman But a man talking about a transexual "Male" is not talking about women he's talking about men cutting off their cucumbers. 🤣
Love Macy Gray and her wonderful unique personality. This attacking people for speaking the truth has got to stop.
The truth is trans people are real. We have been around forever and we're not going anywhere either. Get the fuck over it.
Do you want to get in a time machine and go back in time with Macy Gray? That is what she is intimating. If you do, then "Good Luck." You want Civil Rights for yourself but don't give a damn about others. Sad commentary. You may get what you want.
@@jessmorgan7738 I didn't have a problem with anything she said. Please do us all a huge favor and point out what she said specifically that could be an infringement on anyone's civil rights.
@@jessmorgan7738 Not agreeing with a false statement on sex is infringing on others civil rights? Explain?
Watching Macy on stage is heartwarming the way she reaches out to people and she has had it tough.
When she said "growing up as a little girl" explained it all!! So much goes into that as us being born a woman!!! We go through so much with our emotions and bodies. Well said 👏 👏💜💜
How is transgenderism not cultural appropriation? I remember when you couldn't cook a taco without being accused of cultural appropriation. Now all these males want to become women. I say hell no. You don't get hormones and have a penectomy and get to say you are a woman. Actually what you are is a man who had some medical procedures.
@@ninibugg6203 you can identify as whatever you want but when your choices start to have real life consequences like crushing biological womens skulls or breaking record after record in whatever competition, you'll be reminded of your biology. Stop watering down what it means to be a woman. The damn line should be drawn somewhere. There was a coach, i think they did some sort of track. The coach was telling the trans woman to fucking SLOW down. You can't deny science and reality while claiming you're on the side of science(not you specifically).
@@ninibugg6203 blue isn't male pink isn't female. Sensitivity isn't female. Toughness isn't male. Those are lies you have to believe to hold the ideological belief that gender is a social construct. Let's discard those falsehoods instead of doing the mental gymnastics you've just displayed. It's much simpler and beneficial to all. A woman or man can have any personality type, clothing style, and career but the one thing they can't to is change their gender.
So true.
@@ninibugg6203 my mother never forced me to play with dolls or wear pink. I did those things but I also played Nintendo and played with GI Joe's and Star Wars figures and climbed trees and got dirty. Being a girl doesn't boil down to those things. If you are not a woman then I can see how you might not understand, but if you are I am flabbergasted that you think that is all we are! We are the life givers of the world. And now people are trying to belittle us and make us less. WE ARE WOMAN! That is powerful! All of us women should protest this bs before they take the word MOTHER from the dictionary and all birth certificates. It should NOT be allowed to happen.
I love Macy! I was born in 1957 and grew up in a predominantly black community and my family was Caucasian. We were taught that the color of a person's skin was because of the amount of melanin in your skin, we were taught biology! My mom told us to pick our friends based on their integrity as a person, not the color of their skin and through out my 67 years I have always followed that principle.
Despite her soft voice and her childlike artistry people forget that this is a grown woman who’s lived almost 5 decades in this society.
She’s earned the right to speak her truth.
Period.
No, she got that right from birth.
And is not her truth, is the truth
"her truth" = lies.
The truth.
childlike ? Anyone can see this is an intelligent grown woman ,not what you described as a lesser human being
She's so childlike and honest in her responses that it's refreshing, endearing and beautiful. No guile, no trying to sound smart, no trying to be superior, just being yourself and being open. She's so beautiful ❤️
Yet she managed to sound so profoundly ignorant.
She is predagist
I agree and she said what needed to be said
Authentic, honest, and humble, she’s beautiful.
@@JohnCarterRocks Did she lie about something? What has she ignored?
Macy is amazing - calm, direct, honest - I think she identifies with most of the population around the world.
she is so earthy, grounded and humble, her energy is so calm and soothing even through the screen! What prince said to her "it's not about you." is something we can all take and adapt into our lives, especially this cristal generation that walks around feeling victimized and offended over everything, thinking the world owes them everything.
Two people with different opinions having an adult conversation.How refreshing
Very refreshing 😌
they mostly agreed tho ...
No you said it
Piers has to have a different opinion though otherwise his show is cancelled 😅
You consider this an adult "conversation? You must have very low standards ...or don''t know what ''adult" is, which is more likely.
An interview of someone with common sense, what a treat. Calm, realistic, lovely.
"Women go through just a completely unique experience. ... Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know. And you can't have that just because you wanna be a woman."
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
No one is "pushing" children to transition. Parents don't want their child to transition, but they don't want them to be suicidal or alcoholic either.
We can guide and influence a person. Doctors trained in gender dysphoria are qualified to decide when transitioning will help a child. The parents must also give consent. If a misdiagnosed child starts to transition then stops, they generally have very little change to overcome.
If a child cannot transition until adulthood they are forced to endure the wrong hormones for years. It's the same as telling a misdiagnosed child then can't stop taking the wrong hormones until they're adults. It's torture beyond imagining. Let's not forget many children are GREATFUL for their time as the opposite sex. THERE IS NO PERFECT SOLUTION. Yes! Exactly true! So choose the path with the most success.
That's what doctors continue to do. The regret rate for children transitioning on hormones (age 16+) is around 2%. For some 2% is too much; yet they don't seem to realize that the reverse means 98% have regret to save the 2%.
Transgender women tend to have brain structures that resemble cisgender women, rather than cisgender men. Two sexually dimorphic (differing between men and women) areas of the brain are often compared between men and women. The bed nucleus of the stria terminalus (BSTc) and sexually dimorphic nucleus of transgender women are more similar to those of cisgender woman than to those of cisgender men, suggesting that the general brain structure of these women is in keeping with their gender identity. Several studies have shown that identical twins are more often both transgender than fraternal twins, indicating that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity. So, what genes might be responsible?
@@smokexsmoke99 Cisgender women? man, I hate liberal terminology!! just say "women".
Also, if small children are mature enough to decide whether they want to "change" their gender then it's only fair to let children also vote and drive cars.
@@Dah42 Trans is a reality for a lot of people who’s external appearance doesn’t align with their internal thoughts and feelings. With a true trans child where it all really begins is with that internal feelings of being a girl or a boy.
It's hard not to love Macy for her voice , spirit and for the great person she is !
Loved how clear, concise, succinct and genuine her response was on the woman thing. She explained it perfectly. Wanting to be called a woman is not the same thing as actually BEING a woman. You can't duplicate or identify into our experience. It's that simple.
Ok, but people do transition. When they do this, some look virtually indistinguishable from people born from the biological female sex. This means that they are treated by society as women. Due to this, do they not have a similar experience?
@@harigoodman7718 You made a really good point. People act like bleeding once a month or being able to get pregnant are the only real experiences there are for women to have.
@Princess The original poster said that transgender women cannot identify with the “experience” of women. I was making the point that fully transitioned trans women have much of the same experience as cisgender women as they are treated very similarly by society. This means I disagree with the idea that trans women don’t live as women or have a similar experience.
@Princess I’m not talking about transition either. I’m saying how transgender women present after transition is very similar to cisgender women. This results in them having similar and therefore shared experiences which many would consider a part of womanhood. I understand that the experiences of menstruation especially are quite large parts of being women. However, many women do not get periods (some never start a period). But, they are still women aren’t they? So surely living as a woman in society (dealing with how others treat you, gender roles and stereotypes) is a more significant part of being a woman as it is something that all women experience and throughout all stages of their life? The fact that they can’t have kids doesn’t mean anything. Quite a lot of women are infertile due to conditions such as PCOS. They’re still women. Even women who can conceive, they may have different goals and objectives in life and may not want to have kids. A trans woman can still adopt, have a surrogate, have a child biologically if they are a gay couple (using sperm banks before transitioning). There are plenty of ways a trans women can still be a mother.
@@harigoodman7718 no they don’t. Being born something genetically just hits different.
Seems like a kind soul. I could use a hug from a woman like her. I just need a hug.
🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
*hug*
🤗
Agree
Hug hug hug ☺️☺️
Finally. Thank you Macy Gray! Being a woman is biological not emotional.
Exactly!!
Just over looking the part where trans women have similar brain chemistry or structure as cis women.
That is the reason for the disphoria
They don't just think or feel like a woman
They have identical brain activity as a typical woman.
Total 1000 percent agree!
It's both, plus mental. We are different than men biologically, emotionally, and mentally. A surgeon can't change that
As I just said to another privileged woman. All trans women want is a better life and TO NOT GET MURDERED (which is happening at an alarming rate). Nothing is being taken from you. Classifying trans women as "women" or "real women" will not harm you at all, but it has the capacity to help them from being murdered. So, it is your choice . . . murder or let them live? I say that if allowing trans women to be classified as women helps save one life, then let it be. Why are you seeing this as such a threat to your life? You are not in danger like trans women are. You clearly are looking at this from some bias, and that is what is most alarming. If I were the parent of a trans child, I would not allow you to babysit my child.
its like she tried to say Goodbye, and she chocked.
I have to admit it nice to hear two adults can talk and be civil to each other. Agree to not disagree . Good job to both of you.
It’s nice he’s not speaking over her like he usually does.
Yes I have been wanting to hear something civilized for YEARS.
The things that a woman's body goes through cannot be handled by men, and a woman's body cannot handle the things that a man's body goes through. The things that we go through would absolutely kill a man if he had to experience those things. We are build totally different, and no matter how many surgeries, hormones that are taken, or what someone tells themselves, we will never be able to change DNA. Love yourself and stop pretending to be something that you are not. And a phobia is a fear of something. Since the 50's or 60's people have been messing up the English language and definitions. They are really messing up this generation and future generations by inappropriately using pronouns. Just ridiculous. Macy Gray just spoke truth. People will tell themselves anything to justify their wants.
You definitely are fearful, even if you won't admit it.
DNA is not gender. Keep up.
Agreed! There is a distinct difference between men and women and no amount of surgeries, hormone replacements, or make up can change that. It is disrespectful to not only lay claim to the opposite sex but then to also tell women they shouldn't speak up about their sex. That's why I disagree with entertaining any delusions that someone can change their sex in any capacity. We, as women, need to stand up for our own sex and stop playing pretend to placate their adult feelings.
@@cu5864 Amen!!!! Totally on the same page. I feel insulted when these dudes say that they know what it feels like to be a woman. Impossible.
100%
Thank you, Macy -- being a "Woman" and a girl, encompasses so much more than just the sum of your parts. Going through puberty, the confusion of your first period and beyond that, a history of fighting battles for justice, equity and representation -- all of that being narrowed down to hormones, new fleshy parts and an absence of other parts. It's as if women must reclaim our humanity -- we've been "othered" and made to feel as if we exist in theory only...
Bell Hooks might have been canceled & ostracized simply for naming her famous and groundbreaking work: "Ain't I a Woman"... Such strange times we live in...
"Aint I a Woman" is by Sojourner Truth. And yes agree to all you stated!!!
oh please, you're not suffering because someone else is a transgender.
So you transphobes claim that transgender people just pretend in order to get easy access to the opposite sex? I guess whoever thinks so has no clue about gender dysphoria and not interacted with affected people. I have a transgender boy in my house, and he can't help have a male identity...
even though his body is female. There is a mismatch between brain and body, hard-wired into the brain, it is just a biological fact. He can't switch to the identity that matches his biological sex, just as we cis folks can't do the reverse. That's just a stubborn fact
There's a very small segment of society that doesn't identify as their gender at birth. These are people born with female genitals and male genitals who just don't identify with their gender. It's not any kind of assault on woman's rights.
It's hard to get housing and a job as a transgender person, it's really just about giving people the dignity of being themselves and not being discriminated against. I think you would be hard pressed to find a transgender individual that doesn't support women's rights. From equal pay to anti-discriminatory policy and beyond. There's a lot of really good people in the transgender community.
The vast majority of transgender people just want to work and live normally like everyone else and have healthy relationships.
@@ChocolateShakti Bell Hooks' book title is based on the speech written by Sojourner Truth and it's called "Ain't I a Woman" -- I own the book and it's beautifully written, just as timely and almost as powerful as Sojourner's historic speech!
At least someone had the courage to speak the truth. Weldone Macy, you're such a rare gem
Courage? She's ignorant at best.
This is what bravery looks like, SPEAKING THE TRUTH even when you know you'll be attacked
Exactly I wish more people did this
It’s making a comeback. I am speaking it into existence.
lmao so brave A MAN WHO SOUNDS LIKE A BABY lmao bravery
Come on now you know they all go back on tv and apologize cowering out.
@@DmanDice when trans women feel the need to put their hands on people for being offended you would backtrack as well if you weren’t walking around with guards 24/7
Something about her is so endearing. She seems like a very sweet person.
You probably grew up listening to her music so it's nostalgia. I wasn't a huge R & B fan when I was a child but I remember seeing her on the first spiderman film in 2002 so seeing her always reminds me of my childhood.
Love her ❤️ a woman is not a feeling in a man’s head, a woman is an adult human female!
Great explanation 👍 you are so right its not a feeling
wow you are so smart, what is a female?
Amen to that
@@Chakotay2222 What is a stupid transphobic dogwhistle?
Dog whistling
Her response is legendary💜💜💜 she worded it in a way that no one else was able
yeah but unfortunately she got so much backlsash that she retracted her statement
macy said nothing malicious. it was sincere and from the heart. I appreciate her braveness. she made me proud to be from USA, black, and a woman. she showed respect to the trans community by saying i don't agree with you but support you. it is okay to not agree yet be respectful as pierce and macy reminded us of with this interview. everyone stop letting our differences define everyone
why don't you agree? JK rowling was also respectful, heartfelt she got so much abuse it was shocking. but no man can ever be a woman, we now have men with sexual fetish for being women end up in prisons with women, raping them. and in their spaces. weilding power to change the defintion of woman.
as a biologist major and a woman, and a south asian women in a country where girls get murdered for their sex when they are fetuses. all this lies about gender are pushing womens rights to a difficult position
I don’t know. I feel as though the LQBTQ community isn’t happy or content until people not only let them be, but then have to promote their lifestyle and praise it. I can’t do that. I won’t. I respect their right to be what they want but cannot and will not praise or promote it. To them, if often seems they call you transphobic for that opinion.
@@thefreestate762 It's not about promoting and praising. It's about respect.
@@thefreestate762 LGB has nothing to do with the T.
She is one of the first celebrities I have seen to actually tell the truth by stating that racism is a personal aspect of an individual. Other than the flag thing I find I agree with a lot of her views. And while I disagree with her about the flag I can see where she is coming from and I don't think she comes at it with malice or hate.
She said what you believe does not make it true, and she is absolutely right about the flag thing
What’s wrong with a few brown stars geez
@@juliehirsh1436 why not just put rainbow stars
@@andreilyas1426 Nor does disagreeing with something make it false.
She is right about the flag issue.... The flag should be redesigned to represent what the United States is today.👈🏾
Finally a woman that did not mince her words.
My thoughts exactly.
Bette Midler has indirectly spoken about this too!
Gracy is a woman? Wouldn't know it from the pic.
@@atlantic_love who the hell is gracy?
Finally ? Thousand of women do that for years now
This is the best I have seen on pair’s show. Genuine, real conversation. No arguing or provoking each other. She made a lot of sense and in a calm, lady like way. Thank you for sharing
i give this woman a standing ovation she said we need to let it go well done she hit the nail on the head let go of the hang up's Macy gray certainly is not a snowflake she is a warrior this woman is talking the truth .. bring her back soon
Opinions expressed without facts-because they’re opinions-is not “talking truth.”
@@_artorical_ so what are you saying 😒
She is living proof that true beauty starts from the inside and then exudes to the outside . I don’t even have to know this woman to know that she is a wonderful person.
Yep. She just owns it... And you cant take it away from her. Aged with grace too
Try to say goodbyyye but I choke, try to walk away and I stumbllllllle
Because you strongly agree with her on one topic?? lol
I do agree with her too by the way but I wouldn't say she's a "wonderful" person based just on that
@@jihigh482 based
@@jihigh482 who says I am basing this on just this one opinion? Stop trying to be funny by assuming things … it makes you look ignorant
I love that she’s honest and isn’t afraid to speak the truth.
Until she goes back on tv and apologizes
@@DmanDice because they're going to do everything in their power to destroy her life for speaking the truth how can anybody in his right mind can even believe because of couple of surgeries a man can become a woman or woman can be man this is the biggest lie in the history of human being on this planet
She can't even put a full sentence together for Christ's sake, but sure, go ahead, applaud her for her "truth."
I'm kind of split down the middle when it comes to transgenderism. On one hand, I agree with Macy Gray when she says trans women and female women are not the same thing. That's a fact, one is male the other is female. However, I also can understand people who state that gender and sex are not the same thing. If you actually research, their argument makes sense. Gender IS a socially constructed thing. For example, females are "supposed" to be Women, who wear pink and womanly things, display softer, "feminine" traits, while males are "supposed" to be men, who wear blue and manly things, display harder, "masculine" traits. These things aren't how some biological males and females are, so it's not fair to force males to be "men" and females to be "women". What if there's a natural born male who caters to being what society considers "womanhood" rather than "manhood", and therefore identifies as a woman? Not as a FEMALE, but as a WOMAN.
@@ninibugg6203 what's wrong with just calling transwomen transwomen? Why try to silence actual biological women just to make room for transwomen? A woman is a female and a male is a man. They can both be transmen or transwomen. When you leave the word trans out, you are going out of your way to muddy the water.
What sucks is that she's actually right about everything, and you can tell that she's approaching all of these issues as an artist/thinker, instead of a politician. That doesn't matter to people that only see politics in everything.
Even her more "liberal" points like the flag stuff I agree with her on and I'm glad Piers showed the early American flag so that she had an opportunity to point out how ridiculous it is that people are so precious about our current flag that's only been around for a short time. I don't personally aesthetically like her new flag concept, but that isn't the point.
Don't agree with her on the flag, but so refreshing to see someone not afraid to say what a woman is! This gender ideology woke madness has gone waaaay too far, and it's time for people to speak out against the madness! She sums it up perfectly "But it's the truth!" So great to hear people who may not agree on things, but can have a civil conversation!
Totally agree!!
Go to your child's school and make it clear that this is NOT OK when your 13.yo. child comes home and says he is bisexual..
Tell them that you are NOT giving any concent to any sexual indoctrination of minors.
I did. Every parent must do the same.
The woke gone too far.
I agree with this. The stars of the flag represent states, not the color of the people living there. Using her logic, since women are the majority of the country and did not have rights back when the flag was created, should we put a Venus symbol on the flag? No, because it was understood that the flag did not mean power or control over women, it represented all who lived under it, including women of the time.
@@brokenland5154 you are completely correct and I love seeing people speak the truth.
You clearly didn’t understand what she was saying but ok
Very refreshing to see two grown adults from opposite ends of the spectrum having an open and honest conversation.
as a woman, i’m offended that ppl are changing MY identity. trans ppl prove again that no one gives a fk about women, it’s always about other ppl and their feelings. all the shit i go through like periods, period pain, pregnancy, birth, postpartum, breastfeeding are what make me a strong woman. ur not a woman LIKE ME just cuz u changed ur parts. that’s not fair or right. ur not a real woman, ur a transwoman. PERIOD
Well said!🔒
No ones taking away your identity. Feminism stops when you tear down something to achieve it. Stop being so insecure, if you don’t see them as real women then you shouldn’t be threatened. Weakling.
@@xenogeve8163 oh peak victim blaming! Always women's fault eh? If we notice that a men's sexual rights movement is attempting to (in the US, succeeding) erase our identity & legal rights & speak against that then WE are weaklings? DO ONE
Periods are not easy for any women ... childbirth is hard ...are hormones are difficult ...feel the same ..sick of it ❤️
@@xenogeve8163 It’s not about insecurity or viewing them as competition. It’s about how society views biological women. My cousin is a trans woman and they don’t like men at all. They don’t like men because they are abusive towards her for having a feminine appearance and she’s used by misogynistic men to fuel more hate towards the gender/sex they truly believe they are. Please stop trying to invalidate women, in the most stereotypical way, as being “jealous” when trans women are telling us what men are doing themselves.
Loves the way she says “being a little girl is a whole book” ❤
I could never imagine that these days would come when we are happy if someone dares to say what a woman is. I am very grateful for Macy and J. K. Rowling for being our voice, however it is very sad that we are here in 2022.
What is ironic is that the political party that supports this madness is the same political party that most women support!! This is as ironic as blacks supporting the same political party that used to defend slavery, segregation and then created planned parenthood--which targets black kids in the womb.
If nothing changes, the democratic party will succeed at destroying women's sports and many other things that used to belong to women.
You definitely nailed it!!
This is something I always wonder. How does someone "Know" what being the opposite gender is like when you've never experienced it? How can you feel like something you've never been. I think SOME non binary and trans people have a fantasy of what being the opposite gender is like based on stereotypes. I'm not saying there are no legit cases.
the BEST they can do is SPECULATE....we KNOW men and women think differently. It's preposterous and asinine to think that one could KNOW how the other gender thinks....it's arrogant and conceited....it's irrational and downright CRAZY
its so so SO true. If you remove biology from the equation then what does being a woman even mean? The trans notion of gender is so sexist. its about clothes. Its also very conservative. Girls like pink and wear dresses and if you like pink and wear dresses then you must be a girl. That's absurd.
@@ktwashere5637 Exactly. I saw a fully trans "Man" on youtube complaining he doesn't understand other men or how men think and behave, and wishes he could still play on women's sports teams, and relates to women socially and emotionally. This person clearly doesn't understand men because they're not a man! I don't know how they think they're male.
@@robjohnson9270 Rob Johnson exactly, how can I know what a girl goes through emotionally and physically, with Puberty, periods, emotions, Cramps, body changes, hormones etc. And women's sexual expression is totally different to men, whether gay or straight.
Yes, they have a 'fantasy' of the opposite sex. It's not based in reality at all.
Very good discussion. Macy is so right, the things we women go through as girls and women are sometimes horrific and painful, and I'm pretty sure men couldn't tolerate periods and pregnancy LOL. We love you, Macy!
And Piers Morgan is wrong
Sometimes joyful especially motherhood. Whatever, it's not the experience of men + cosmetics.
@@gypsyaspen1297: No he isn’t.
And there’s a lot women couldn’t tolerate that men have to endure. Men constitute 91.5% of the World’s hard labor, high mortality rate blue collar jobs of the world in areas of transport, construction, sanitation and freight and defense. Women complain about cuts they receive when shaving their legs, while many men must shave their faces daily luckily avoiding the Jugular Vein while enduring barbers rash and other skin afflictions. Why is it that when a ship sinks, it’s women and children that evacuate first? I can certainly understand the children, but why women? Your vagina can’t impregnate itself without support from a penis now can it? Why are women always favored in divorces? Why is it that a young man will give his seat up for an elderly woman or man, yet a young woman will not give up her seat for an elderly man?? Why are women firefighters and female military service members paid the same as their male counterparts yet, their physical test and lift standards are less? This means in a time of war, who has to supplant the difference to complete the mission? A hint; it’s not the female. When are women going to be required to sign up for the nation’s Selective Service Act? It’s mandatory for men, why not you women? Let’s not play the “tradition gender” game as that would put you as a woman, back into the kitchen barefoot and pregnant right? Again, there is no excuse for men to be the only gender to be forced to register for the SSA. Pain? How many pain medications and over the counter pain relievers are there for menstrual cramps? Many!!! Yet, women can’t seem to control their periods or prep themselves for a timed projected monthly bodily function - just a lot more easier to take your mood swings and nasty temperament out on the men around you for a pity party. You do know that men’s kidney stones are so severe that many pass out from the pain - try finding an over the counter pain medication for that. You know what I got for my stones when hospitalized? Yes, Demerol!!! Now who else gets Demerol for their pain during childbirth?
When you women equalize out the impartiality of the aforementioned pain and gender comparisons to a 50/50 scale, then come talk to me about what men can’t endure. Now run along… you’re done here
@kizzerd Whatever men have to "endure" isn't inescapably forced on them by biology and occurring like clockwork for your best years. Unless she has some type of disorder or she's pregnant, a woman MUST bleed and experience pain every month that she can't get away from. Just accept that there is no comparison between what women and men have to go through. None. The original comment was about the trials and tribulations of WOMEN, yet you felt the need to chime in about men's struggles, which they usually cause on themselves. Stop trying to compete as if there is any equivalence that men must suffer through. There isn't one. This is not about you. Everything is not about men, you should've sat this one out and just agreed. That's all you can really do, because you have no idea what women have to deal with!
Great interview. Macy seems a really genuine person.
I saw her live 23 years ago. Brilliant show, very entertaining, and I'm into my rock and metal. She was playing before a band I wanted to see at a festival, so I watched her show. Glad I did, she's very funny on stage.
Aww bless her. She’s a sweetie. You can tell she’s just being honest. Not trying to fit in with some trendy political agenda. That’s much more rock and roll than most of today’s rockstars.
Macy has always understood life better than most.
If I tattoo all of my skin orange, dye my hair green, and stand in a hole in the ground all day, I'm a carrot.
THIS IS THE LOGIC
You got correct bro
Can’t. Stop. Laughing!😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Bugs Bunny will love you lol 😆
Hello Mr Carrot
@Educat ional Me too!!!!!!!!!!
She played a movie role as a drugged-out ghetto woman and she was great. An awesome actress.
The fact is, i was born as a woman, I grew up in that role, this is who I am. I gave birth to a beautiful baby girl and that is who she is. No man wanting to be a woman can claim that and take that away from us. If you want I will call you a a transwoman, because that is what you are. You can wear your crown as a transwoman, and be proud of that and I will stand behind you and fight for your rights with you, but I will wear my own crown as a born and raised proud woman and no one will take that from me!
"Transwomen" already have the same rights as everyone else, they want additional rights to trample over the rights of women.
Well said 👏 👌 👍
Is somebody TRYING to take that away from you?
@@elizabethtrainer9732 not from me alone from all of us women, and wr are all trying to hard to be woke that we are loosing sight off what is actually going on, there are people from the trans community trying to tske the title of woman away from actual women and call us baby makers. I support and love all people and everyone has the right to live their authentic life, God bless us all, but i am not going to teach my beautiful daughter that she can no longer be called a woman because it offense transwomen, and if you dont know that this is happening, stand back and just look♥️ i want all trans people to feel safe and that their feelings matter, but so does mine
@@elizabethtrainer9732 yes they are!
„Being a Women of Girl is a Whole Epic Book and you can‘t change That“ yes!
Thank You , macy gray!!!!
“Can’t Change That” Was The Jam 😊
A brilliant segment my hat is off to you both.
Thank you for describing the beauty of being a little girl and woman Macy, it was perfect.
Facts
She is right, and should never have apologised for speaking the truth. Changing your parts does not make you a woman. This is a fact.
She is an absolute breath of fresh air.
Thank you Macy for speaking truth. A man can never be a woman. Our women experiences are unique! I also am so proud to be an American! She's amazing!
Everyones experiences are unique, be it a woman or a man. Sure, men can not experience periods but men experience lots of things women can't. But in the end, no two men are equal, the same way no two women are identical. Everyones experience of womanhood or manhood is unique for the matter. We are all human beings, so it is all a valid human experience determined by our genetic heritage. And believe it or not, you can influence your experience by the way you live and present yourself to the world, because humans are social creatures. It is the way we socialise that ultimately provides for the main component of our experience as humans.
@@T-Mello her point was men can not be women. Regardless of any surgery a man may get to present as one. Of course men's experiences are different. I don't want to experience everything a man does because I am a woman. I love that we are different. I also understand what a woman is as does Macy.
Absolutely nothing wrong with what she said. She is right! Especially with the things little girls and women go through!
Also, it’s becoming extremely frustrating that we can no longer have individual opinions. Everyone doesn’t have to agree or think alike. If it’s not rooted in hate or inciting violence, stop trippin…..
But removing the female symbol from feminine products.
Saying “pregnant people” instead of “pregnant women”
Getting offended because a nurse calls you a mom after GIVING BIRTH
Saying we shouldn’t assign a gender to a baby when….ummm there’s obviously a difference between a boy and a girl
It’s becoming absolutely ridiculous! Please stop!
Agreed.
It's scary. The confusing things I see in stores. I went to the mall a few weeks ago and picked out some things from this store there, and there was a sticker taped up on the plastic thing in front of the cashier that said "we prefer they/them to him or her. They/them. I thought about it alot that day, trying to figure out how I would say this to someone without sounding ridiculous. I didn't even know how I was supposed to use these words instead of him or her. Think about it. Think about referring to a person you're talking about in a sentence, and instead of saying "he" or "she", say "they" or "them". It sounds silly. The whole thing is silly, in my opinion, but there are crazy things happening in this world everywhere.
@@Chelsea-lp1gc insanity. I support her 💯 I put a video up in support of her. She was screwed over for nothing. She did nothing wrong. I have seen the they/them labeling too. Insanity. SMH. I'm 51 have been saying woman man half a century.
@@tinastanley4444 I thought I was going crazy for a second with the they/them thing. At first I really thought it was a joke because it was a store in the mall kind of known for not being serious. But no. This is really happening. I'm 28, but I feel like everything going on right now with society is just getting weirder and weirder. And yes, I disagree with this weirdness where nothing makes sense. And I totally stand with her on this too. She was not disrespectful about it, just saying how she feels.
@@Chelsea-lp1gc your not going crazy love the world has gone bonkers sweetheart, when I saw the they/them sticker I was at one of those dollar stores. And like you was confused 😕 . I'm 51 love and have been saying woman man or transgender or Lgbtq but back in my day it was just the LGB community. And women were proud to be women. It breaks my heart young girls like yourself are forced to live in this ever changing WEIRD world. You deserve the peace and freedom I grew up with. MACY as you said did nothing wrong. If anything the person who put her on the spot in this climate we are living in now really pit her in the hot seat by asking her what she thinks a woman is. Of course she has to make a living like most of us and the "hollyweird" "I'm sorry for nothing" thing is out of control. I've been saying woman for half a century. I'm not trying to learn all this identify as language. My memory isn't what it used to be either. Lmao but you feel me. I will show respect 💯 if a person is deserving of respect. Not just put of fear I'll say woman or whatever new wave jargon. I've had my um going to change the world revolution in the 80s and early 90s. I am friends with a transgender Woman. And she fought her whole life to be called WOMAN. You seem like a really nice young woman and I'm with ya 100%
What a lovely lady. ☺️ A picture of clarity in a world of chaos.
I don't agree with her stance on the flag, but I appreciate this conversation and happy she is speaking out for women.
Yeah the flag stays put
Brittany Riot how was she speaking out for women?
@@MissJade805 By defining us correctly and not going along with this push for MEN to co-opt our identities, spaces in the world, career opportunities (especially in sports), and essentially set any progress we've made back 100 years or more because MEN think that being a woman now only consists of their saying so--no parts even need to change! I actually received college credit in the '80s to learn all about "transexuals" at SF State, used to think I was so ahead of the curve in terms of what I knew about them, was in a punk band with a transwoman (no bottom surgery but at least hormones) and would always address her to reflect how she presented herself. Just like the abortion issue, this shit has gone too far (like abortion AFTER birth) and classical liberal values have been completely exploited for other agendas, like trafficking body parts and pushing for TRANSHUMANISM. F MEN in women's prisons, shelters, lockerrooms, bathrooms, bookclubs, sports or anywhere else that means WOMEN can't be safe, successful or just be themselves. I am still waiting to read about transmen breaking down the doors to compete against real men. Why is that? Because we have systematically lowered the expectations of what it means to be a man and because it is OBVIOUS that it would not be a fair competition and they would be creamed. Maybe for every transwoman who wants to compete, "she" needs to secure a transman to do the same. Or better yet, create trans competitions. That would be entertaining to watch that group decide on the rules!
The flag WILL change. Whether it's adding Puerto Rico and/or other territories, or states seceding. Count on it
@Utube Fknsucks - why is that?
What a great interview, really enjoyed watching it. She knows what a woman is & she’s wonderful.
Well said!! 😎🙏🏻
I think we all know just afraid to admit.
I am SO grateful that another celebrity finally has the courage to say the truth outloud. J.K. Rowling has had to carry this burden alone for long enough. More public figures and celebrities need to stand up for women, women's rights and the truth. Thank you, Macy and Piers! ❤
Put her entire celebrity on the line. Wow
I'm grateful too.
Appearantly you have to have a uterus/breast in order to be a woman. Interestingly enough, plenty don’t.
So the question is..what makes a woman a woman? (on a cellular level)
@@sgrey2350 Gotta be born as one. If you're not then you're not a woman, female human being.
@@Wolf_90702 oh just how you have to be born with blonde hair in order to be a brunette later in life? Yea I’m gonna go with nope, you’re wrong.
9:17 😹 Cattle Call🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂They ALL LINED UP 😹
Back in the 90s there was a trend to take a Toyota MR2, strip the body off and replace it with a Ferrari body kit. It may look like a Ferrari at quick glance, but when you look closely you knew something didn't look right. The owners could try and fool people that they had a Ferrari, but underneath it will always be a Toyota, the registration documents will call it a Toyota, and when it goes to the scrapyard and the aftermarket parts have been taken off it'll only ever be recognised as a Toyota.
She’s such a doll! Totally agree with her and hate the thought of someone so gentle and authentic being the target of major backlash like she’s revived. Proud of you Macy! 💜✨
I’d choose millions of transwomen over her, beauty and femininity is not determined by gender apparently
brilliant macy for speaking your mind wiithout giving a crap what people think.
That is what freedom is!
I don’t understand how people can expect to be physically accepted as something they aren’t and never ever will be able to be.. it’s nobody’s fault, and we’re not saying it to hurt your feelings, and yes I feel very sorry for you but someone physically born a male can’t and will never be able to fully relate to someone physically born female. It’s due to biology and hormones and the fact that those hormones actually affect a females life very noticeable every single month throughout life.. it is a HUGE part of being a female, and a HUGE part that separates males from females. Female/male, X/Y, call it what you want, but there are two different body types which are unchangeable in terms of function and physical attributes, beyond aesthetics, and no human will ever be able to relate to the other sex in all of those differences, simply because you weren’t born into that body! How anybody can suggest otherwise is beyond me, because even they know these facts are true.. 🤷🏼♀️
Thank you Macy, Bette Midler and JK Rowling for the courage to speak up and tell the truth. These are such sad times we live in, when in order to be "inclusive" towards one group, you have to use disrespectful and demeaning language towards another group, namely women. It has to stop.
Bette couldn't take the heat and changed her narrative very quickly
so did macey rofl. Jk Rowling is the only one with a true backbone.
They can roll, but we know how Macy and Bette really feel.
@@BassHeadsProduction it's not about "having a true backbone" it's about still maintaining your career after saying those things lol while i still don't see what was offensive about what Macy has said, i still know that others will be offended by it. And by "others" i mean her fans, her record labels, her crew that works for her and so on. There's a long list of people who works for her as well so i guess this is why she had to apologize (Even if she didn't even have to do that) It sucks that the world has come to this but i guess this is the "new normal" nowadays. It's sad but it's true.
@@BassHeadsProduction they or their publicists?
She’s great- what a voice, what a character.
Yes, right. She is speaking with solid thought and reasoned intellect. I hope she doesn't get done in by expressing herself in public. She is humble and smart. I dig it.
@@kathyscott9219 destroying something that gave u the freedom to speak about changing is mind boggling. I would want some of these swj to go to north Korea for a year. They'll come back begging for American freedom.
She’s lovely
She talks like a freakin child, are you serious? Look at how she dresses....smh
@@AlexanderKovalenko3377 grow up! Ugh
She is really grounded.. i would say a very likeable person , a natural to interview.....
Just because "I try" is a timeless classic, I'm automatically obligated to agree with Macy Gray
So rare these days, especially with celebrities, that people just say what's on their minds. Feels really refreshing. She's a great lady!
Kudos Macy, refreshing to hear honesty. Cheers again Piers for having honest guests.
Be well, Happy 4th of July from Scotland 🍻❤
I love how Macy express her opinion.
In this PC world we now live in Macy's views on gender might not be for everyone but I make her right.
Being a little girl is a whole epic book, Macy Gray. That's the shot heard around the world, yes mam!
Yep that’s why they’re mad. They did not have the womanhood experience
Those were the most appropriate, powerful well spoken words to describe our experience
That is not as original as you think it is. You discount and disrespect (along with Macy Gray) a whole group of oppressed people who are murdered at an alarmingly disproportionate rate each year.
@@Lastdayone Nope, trans people just don't want to get murdered. Your are (like many on here "projecting"). I detect some misplaced anger. And who is "they?" You were not real clear because it would make your insensitive comment less cute. So again, why are you in trans people's business? Don't you have something better to do than bother the most oppressed group at this juncture in history? Or do you want to go back in time? It seems like you want the time machine. If you can find one, then please get in it.
@@jessmorgan7738 They are not the most oppressed group. Not at this juncture in history or any other. Whether your contrast refers to socio-cultural or biological groupings, they still are not the most oppressed. I also do not believe they are a biological group, so to compare them to, say, Native Americans is irrelevant and trivializes the oppressive ghettos they still occupy. I also do not see them enduring prison due to a corrupt war on drugs. I believe 100% that trans people should be able to live their lives and find happiness, but I detest these contrasts.
We need middle grown here, transwoman is transwoman, woman is woman, adult human female. Transwoman is a person with body modification and hormones to be like woman. Why embarrassed of who you are, just be proud to be transwoman if you are , and say it out loud, transwoman is transwoman. There is a difference and dont hijack word woman from actual woman.
@OCEN well said!
This
Totally agree with you, there's nothing wrong with being a transwoman. Why can't anyone have a difference of opinion anymore? There are millions that will never accept a transwoman and the other half who give zf's.
Transwomen are men ❤
👏🏿 👏🏿👏🏿
She's not transphobic at all, she's only telling the actual truth, why is this an argument
Self-identity makes a person authentic, Macy and Pierce are authentic.
Absolutely spot on, get real people. Well done both for telling the truth!
I completely agree with everything that she said . I’m all for everyone being who they want to be , but glorifying being a woman is just getting out of hand .. if you’re not born a biological woman , I’m sorry but you’re not a real woman .. surgery can transform anyone , but what she said saying “being a little girl is a whole epic book & you can’t have that because you want to be a woman” . Well said Macy , finally someone had the gall to speak some truth . If you don’t have the female reproductive system .. sorry but you’re not a woman.
Right ? Is it much more complicated than "Bro, you got a dick, you're a man. If you want to believe you're a woman in your own fantasy world, I don't give a damn f**k. but come on bro, you're a dude :p" ?
@@ninibugg6203 Women are adult human females who produce eggs, men are adult human males who produce sperm. A trans-woman who was a man but transitions his gender to female is still a man because biologically sex can't change. A particular part of his brain may be similar to women that makes him think that he's a woman, but he is not a woman and will never be a woman. Same goes for trans-men who are women and undergo gender transitioning...even with all the voice deepening and beard growth and breast removal, they will never be men because biologically in all their cells and with their egg production and pregnancy capabilities they are women. It's not really that hard of an issue, but extremist ignorant Trans activists don't like the facts of biology e.g. that sex is immutable, sex can't change. You can change gender, but you can't change sex.
Tiffany Turner, you are correct.
are you ladies jealous the "FAKE" ladies will take your men from you? If all the transgendered are considered real women, some of you may be out of business. lol.just kidding
So let me ask you this: If you can't tell the difference between two people/object, is there any difference between them?
If there are no experiments that can distinguish the two, then as far as we know, they are identical.
Take Jessica Alves. She's a transitioned woman, but you'd never know if she wasn't open about it. Good luck distinguishing her in a group of non-trans cis women.
So you might ask: But what about the genitals? Well, she had her penis turned into a vagina. They are extremely skilled at this, and so you'd never know here either. If she wanted, she could have any man she wanted and they would never know. Does she have breasts? Also yes.
Femininity is not a birthright. It is a state of mind and a way of presenting yourself that anyone can adopt.
I’ve always been attracted to this woman as a person. Not as a professional it’s always been her energy.
Oh she is lovely Piers we want to see Macey again she’s a delight.👍👍👍🤗🤗🤗🤗Nan 85
She’s very good in being herself not minding whether the most powerful people in the world are watching her. That’s so chilling.
What a pleasant conversation, nice to feel good and just enjoy the interaction.👍
I love Macy. I met her in 2000 when I had just walked off stage after my performance at The Scala in London and she came over and complimented me for my performance and energy on stage. To this day I have always admired her personality and the person she is. She just seems like a really in tune person and I personally don't see anything wrong with what she's saying here. Never change who you are Macy, thats who we all fell in love with from the get go ❤
Well said.. just because you dont agree with gender transitioning doesnt mean you have a phobia about transgenders..
Why disagree with gender transitioning? It's not your life or your business. You can't know what goes on inside a transgender person. However, cisgender women have lifelong experiences that are different than males. The map of a female's life does not include a lot of male experiences and male privilege is a whole different reality. Expectations for each gender are different whether they should be or not.
@@avriladams4670 because they consistently bully women and invade their spaces. Because some of them suggest gender transitioning for toddlers. Because women can't be called women, they are now "cisgendered." They MADE it everyone else's business and we refuse to give the space we fought to take.
Oh AND Because JK Rowling correctly said that you can't change sex. Sex and gender are not interchangeable. And they sent her death threats. If you don't see why everyone else is mad about the gender transitioning, you got some serious blinders
@@avriladams4670 you only get to label yourself. Women are not cis gender, have some respect for the original women and stop calling us names.
@@avriladams4670 To even ask "why disagree with gender transitioning" shows that you have done nothing but ignore people with differing opinions to yours.
If you haven't figured out by now why people disagree with it, then maybe you should open your eyes, think rationally and LISTEN to people, especially women when it comes to this issue.
@@avriladams4670 if it's not our life or our business, do not ask us to participate in your transition by forcing us to call you that which you're not.
This woman SINGS when she speaks. It's amazing to listen to.
Womanhood is not something you can just be inducted into, it's a lifelong process. Just like how you can't claim to be another race just because you ''feel'' like you were that race your whole life. Unlike a lot of ''men'' out there, Macy Gray actually has major balls. Lol jk, no offense to the alphabet people. Just breaking balls here. Kudos to her!
Amen!!
what she said was more powerful than what the others tried to say.
Her unique way to honestly articulate is humbling
Being created a female. The epoch experience of being a little girl, developing into a teenager.
Experiencing menstruation. Having a baby. The stress of having to get a biopsy on your female parts. We earned that. Ya'll didnt.
Don't forget about if you want to have a baby our clock starts ticking down at 30 and after 35, you are very lucky if you are able to conceive. Men don't have clock for having a baby. We do.
@@kirbya1596 actually men's fertility does start to wane and become weaker after 40 but they do have more time for sure
yep
I as a man truly respect and appreciate you natural born women. This transgender stuff is getting crazy
I mean, to be honest, transgender men could counter-argue that they had to go through surgeries and hormones and we didn't lol. But I don't think it has to do with "what women go through"...it's just reality. You can feel feminine, dress feminine, have a feminine personality, but that doesn't change your biological sex. And to ignore that is living in denial.
Macy Gray was spot on with her comments about what a Woman is, I can’t believe we are having conversations like this. She speaks up for what she believes in. I watched this interview with her and Piers she came across as a lovely soul.
And other people speak up for what they believe in. She ought to have met my half-brother before he was my half-brother and afterwards. He sure as s#1t isn't a woman, I don't care what he was born as. And that's me speaking up for what I believe in.
I can't believe you still can't mind your own business. 🤣🤣🤣
@@atlantic_love i cant believe you are still trumping women's rights
@@petedavis7970 Your half sister is still a woman.
@@atlantic_love 😂 it is my business when the world and society we live in, is sick.
Such a reasonable and truthful voice standing up for freedom of expression and women 💓
Yeah she’s speaking fact
I love what Macy stands for.
Big 🤗 &💖
I agree With her, this is like saying bleaching my dark skin to white will make me CAUCASIAN LOL!