Vintage transport film - Golden Arrow - 1949
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2022
- This vintage transport film, produced by the Southern Region film unit of British Railways in 1949, depicts the Golden Arrow train service which ran from London via Dover and Calais Maritime to Paris Nord. The Golden Arrow train service came to an end in 1972.
Stood by the engineer with his little oil can at Crewe station in 1955 . To a little boy of 8 it was a monster train very large Wheels ,with a great golden arrow. . Warm memories ..The smells sounds whistles . How lucky a lad I was
Fairly sure you are in the wrong station in the wrong region with the wrong train! memory check please?!
@@simonworman7898 could have been the wrong station .I am almost 80 now .But was with mother..We watched it pull in .Told me how lucky we were to see it. .But do remember standing on the station .In them years you could even talk to the engineer.He was oiling the fittings .In those days we even used to record the train numbers.Wish I still had that little book..
Left England soon after . Cheers from Western Canada. .
@@myuboat45 Although I live in Thailand now I still have with me BR locomotives combined volume from 1959. Went to school by train and even drove a tank engine in the same year that worked in a quarry along the way. Baxter the quarry engine.
So evocative of its time. Complete with narration by Mr Cholmondeley Warner. I remember seeing the GA leaving Victoria when I was a boy. It seemed so exotic.
Lovely to hear Herbert Ashworth-Hope's "Barnacle Bill" before it became well-known as the signature tune of "Blue Peter".
WONDERFUL NOSTALIA. I remember going to Bromley South station during the school holidays to watch the Golden Arrow pass through at 11:15am. On school days it passed my Orpington school on the railway embankment at 11:20am and I would forget the boring lesson and watch out for it, nudging my friend to look at it too. Happy days.
Now our tea and coffee comes out of machine in a plastic cup that’s if the machine is working
The Golden Arrow came past my school in Battersea (Nine Elms) London. Late 50s.
What a great sight.
I'm 43 and I've never heard of this train...every day is a school day
Interesting that though it's a BR production from 1949, the Merchant still carries full Southern livery and number 21C1
Think it was filmed in 1947.
It's a rehash. I've seen this as a Southern Railway Film Unit production from 1946. It was released on VHS back in the 80s. The MN in full Southern livery, plus the signwritten "Golden Arrow" on the Pullman cars clearly dates this as pre- nationalisation. That aside, what a glamorous way of traveling to Paris. Can't help looking at the ships crew , and wondering what hardships they were enduring just a couple of years before these scenes were filmed. Atlantic convoys? Who knows...
Also with lots of films the filming can be done well before the release date. Often the previous year sometimes more.
Editing and release never a quick process further back.
The original Bulleid pacific,Channel Packet,in its first form!.
The night ferry train followed after the Golden Arrow. When travelling to France on a school trip in the 60s. The night ferry train was pulled by a Schools class locomotive, Because one of the teachers pointed it out when we walked through to the ferries.
If you walked through onto the ferry you were not on the Night Ferry train.
Passengers remained sleeping in the train during embarkation and the sea journey.
@@markturner4219 not in second class you got off walked both ends. The night train used to tag the second class at the back on specials like school visit or similar in late 50s early 60s. Remember BR even had a hospital train. We were passengers then not customers.
The train ferries had to have quite a number of design features to carry overnight / sleeper traffic. One of the interesting ones was that they needed to have a water trough with running water under the coaches. As the coaches dropped waste on to the track under normal service, you could not have that happen on a loading deck. So after the train was brought on, a longitudinal cover under the whole length of the train would open up to revel the water trough, with running water, waste then flowed off the back of the ship.
As some of the coaches still had solid fuel stoves in for heating which caused some serious issues when designing post war ferries to meet the fire safety requirements.
Oh to back then on this train. In the Trianon bar. ❤
A cappuccino frappe, did they say? That was shockingly foreign for postwar Britain
Superb upload ,just goes to show though that even so soon after WW2 some people had cash to burn
Agreed, d. One wonders upon whose hard-working backs/deaths these 'grand people' accumulated their financial 'freedom'?
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If war wasn’t profitable, we wouldn’t have them.
Awww i was expecting John Noakes to pop up once it got to the sea, after all the Blue Peter music was playing.
What larks! Was the wine steward on Invicta during the Summer of 1959..... or was it 1960? Thursday nights in Boulogne, after going across empty to bring back breakfast traffic the next morning.
The Glory days of rail travel in beautiful carriages pulled a big steam locomotive!
A gleaming 'spam-can', beautiful coaches. Doesn't get much better.
It ended in 1972? We just saw it today at Penge East going to Victoria and the passengers were waving at our jack russell who is quite adorable ....
21C1 Channel Packet hauling the Golden Arrow
Wow
My grandfather worked on this as a chef
That's pretty cool!
Anyone know the music name when the train passes leaving Victoria and Calais?
Not so much RoRo as HoHo (Hoist on, hoist off)
Non for us plebs, middle upper class only.
So posh. The Trianon Bar for a frappe.
Clearly more like 1939, as locomotive 21C1 'Channel packet' has it pressed small smoke deflectors ( didnt last long, upgraded to big full size ones )& original swept cab ! Tender also has original 'Southern' lettering.
It clearly isn't. Channel Packet didn't enter servuce until june 1941, at wgich time there was no Golden Arrow service.
It is clearly between 1948 and 1951. Although the locomotive is still in Southern livery, this is a British Railways film to promote the service.
Locomotives were repainted as their works visits became due.
The pre war Pullman coaches in the film were replaced in 1951.
@@markturner4219 Could be 1946 or 1947. If the the Southern Railway had already completed some or most of the filming then British Railways would not just throw away the work of what was filmed in expensive colour film so far. With all films the release date is often just when all the editing of pre shot film was finally completed for the release date . The British Railways contribution may have just been just taking over final editing by saying carry on but putting their name on it.
A few precedents for railway films like this this around 1948.
Agree it is not 1939 before these Pacific locomotives were built or wartime conditions when a boat train to France would be unthinkable.
@@markturner4219 I stand rightly corrected , you are right, 21C1 Channel Packet did not enter service until 1941. How ever, this clearly is NOT 1949. Further digging around the archives would suggest 1946 when 'Golden Arrow' was reinstated post war. My previous comments about the other points which render a 1949 date impossible still stand ofcourse .
@@johnd8892 I very much doubt it as there are even BR offices in Paris.
@@markturner4219 Channel Packet was selected to work the inaugural trip of the Golden Arrow on 13 April 1946, and was duly outshopped by Eastleigh in the wonderful Malachite Green. Of course, Bulleid was still the CME and I don't think he or anybody else expected the latest and most modern locomotive on the Southern to take second place! I don't know if this was the first of the post war repaints, but Channel Packet was amongst the first of the Bulleid's to get the treatment. The Southern made the film, and I assume that it was made in May or June 1946- and in colour.
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Did he say 22 coach train ? . How many do they have these days,
9 to 20
Coach lengths were not as long as they are now, probably 60ft or less.
Modern coaches are 22 or 23 metres, 72 or 75 feet, in UK, 26 metres or 85 feet on the continent.
Nevertheless 20 or 22 coaches is still one hell of a train, even if it is only equivalent to 15 or 16 modern coaches.
@Thomas Burke early steam coaches 57ft i think. Mk1 57 to 63ft. mk3 75ft. That's all I know. Can't find out how long those pullmans were.. would have thought those pillmans were a lot heavier than a modern coach.. very impressive for one engine.
Yes. 11 in UK and 11 in France.
No the 22 refers to 22 carrot gold
These were the few brief years post WW2 when Britain was back on track before the Tories got back in by a whisker and naffed it all up!
Bankrupt. Starving. Bread rationing. The empire disintegrating. Prefabs. A population in moth-eaten demob suits, with terrible teeth, working in government- green offices in Nissen huts on bomb sites, all through that terrible winter of 1947, which went on until June.. Back on track? Sure. This film is a piece of pure PR.
@@phaasch certainly life was tough in early post war years, bankrupt yes, but peacefully bankrupt.
@@phaasch The bread was rationed so that we could help feed Ukraine during the famine. No-one starved in this country due to rationing.
@@dolvaran I don't know where you got that from. Stalin refused to outwardly acknowledge the famine, and in fact continued to export grain, despite the dire situation, purely as a pretence. No aid was requested, and would certainly, in any event, have been refused. Britain had it's hands full already with a war-ravaged Europe. Sure, no one died here, but people were still hungry. It was not a good time anywhere, except in America.