Vintage railway film - Second Nature - 1967

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • This vintage railway film, produced by British Transport Films in 1967, deals with electrification and how the raiIway men of Rugby adopt new methods and use new machines. In this film they tell in their own words of the great technological changes and the human problems of adapting which each has to face.

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  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 10 місяців тому +16

    Most of that electrification equipment is still serving the WCML 50+ years later! ...admittely refurbished and updated a bit since then, but you'd still recognise it. The class 86s (AL6s as they were when this was filmed) were also still in regular service (on freight) until a few years ago. Truly flexible, durable and versatile machines that paid for themselves many times over. For all the jokes and public dislike toward BR, they did, sometimes, get it right!

    • @MW-ur1pj
      @MW-ur1pj 17 днів тому +1

      MK1 Inverclyde is still the most reliable around here, highly regarded by the OHLE teams that can with us

  • @pinza0079
    @pinza0079 2 роки тому +59

    Great film and a rare early glimpse of Austin Powers as a tea boy before he became an international man of mystery!

    • @roypalfrey5694
      @roypalfrey5694 2 роки тому +11

      Back in the '60s Dr. Evil went under the name of Beeching.

    • @novakingood3788
      @novakingood3788 2 роки тому +13

      @@roypalfrey5694 Beeching was just Mini Me. The real Dr Evil was Ernest (Blofeld?)Marples.

    • @novakingood3788
      @novakingood3788 2 роки тому +1

      @Caravaggio That's good coming from someone who killed a man in a brawl and had to flee to Naples!

    • @robertwilloughby8050
      @robertwilloughby8050 2 роки тому +3

      He also appears in the film on the introduction of TOPS... He's a tad more senior in that one.....😉

    • @TrysilBoy
      @TrysilBoy 2 роки тому +2

      I watched this based on this comment alone 😂

  • @moshihus
    @moshihus 2 роки тому +24

    Suits, egos, hierarchy and those amazing haircuts......brilliant!!

  • @BazNapper
    @BazNapper 3 місяці тому +1

    Loved driving AL6s/86s.
    Thankfully, two still operate regularly here and even better, the Eastern Europeans recognised a bargain when they became available for use there.

  • @Ass_Burgers_Syndrome
    @Ass_Burgers_Syndrome 2 роки тому +20

    16:10 I love how he takes a piece of gum and gives the other guy the empty wrapper back lol

    • @Rob1Rich
      @Rob1Rich 2 роки тому +1

      So passive aggressive ;-)

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan 2 роки тому

      I was born about this time, and as a kid a few years later, I remember gum wrappers were printed with instructions to bin it. I suspect the tidy britain campaign was started by the time of this film 👍.

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 9 місяців тому

      @@TheScotsalan Started in the 1950s!

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 Рік тому +1

    These old films are a great source of knowledge, systems , attitudes , uniform and elf and fairies . When I started on the tracks it was a yellow vest over blue overalls boots and a flat hat . Everyone for everyone else, kept us safe . Great video 👍🇬🇧 . Nice of the rooks to help .

  • @DoggMa
    @DoggMa 2 роки тому +8

    You'd have to drag this out of the average bloke, but if you got to the heart of it you would find that he does live railway, hes got to live railways. He gives to his job all he has. That is a fine sentiment that is lacking these days.

    • @richmanwisco
      @richmanwisco 2 роки тому +2

      I dare you to say that to a railway employee today. And I want to be there when you do.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 2 роки тому +2

      You arrogant person. So the young people working on the railways today aren’t proud of what they do? You are unbelievable. Hope the oldies in your day said that about you…….

    • @DoggMa
      @DoggMa 2 роки тому +2

      @@richmanwisco Hi Rich i have and do say that to my work colleagues , and yes for the most part we all care and love our railway. but there is a percentage of people that dont give two hoots, put more effort into getting out of doing any work or are just there to get as far up the ladder as possible. its a fact and it exists not just in the railway either but pretty much every big company. but the average bloke like it says and like the old railway boy in the video said. live railway Eat railway and shit railway.

    • @DoggMa
      @DoggMa 2 роки тому

      @@billpugh58 Bill, who said anything about young people? the only thing that i find unbelievable is your lack of engaging brain before allowing your fingers to run wild over a keyboard. if you want to talk and discuss anything that is totally fine. but to just arrogantly assume something and then issuing an insult to me without chance of discussion makes you a troll my friend. have a blessed day.

  • @Pjs75
    @Pjs75 2 роки тому +8

    Excellent. An echo from an earlier time.

  • @bridgerectifier7711
    @bridgerectifier7711 2 роки тому +9

    Thanks again for a great upload. I love these old films and especially as I used to be a driver, the class 86 was my favorite. Great days.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому +1

      Bridge Rectifyer. Surely you must have preferred the 87s. I did

    • @bridgerectifier7711
      @bridgerectifier7711 2 роки тому

      @@arthurrytis6010 - As I recall, the 87 and the 90 drove very much the same and were easy to drive, but the 86 required more handwork tapping up and running down between neutral sections etc.
      Slower than the 87, but you had very fine control for slow movements and shunting.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      @@bridgerectifier7711 if you were a driver you would know that a Class 87 was a tap changer loco similar to the 86 ?!

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      Also, as far as I know there was only one 87 fitted with Thyristor control as per 90

    • @bridgerectifier7711
      @bridgerectifier7711 2 роки тому

      @@arthurrytis6010 Yes it was 87001. We had it sided at Norwich & Ipswich for a while. During the Summer of 2000, we had four 86's fail on us and were borrowing loco's from everywhere.
      I must confess, you have clearly shown my ignorance on the subject of the 87. I worked for Anglia (Norwich) then GNER (Leeds) from 1998 to 2005.

  • @eekamoose
    @eekamoose 2 роки тому +6

    2:07 Richard Sell, research engineer, gets out of his Vauxhall Viva Mk 1. (HA). That's quite a humble car for a man with his position. But then again he does smoke a pipe so his status is intact.

  • @1171karl
    @1171karl 2 роки тому +9

    That music sounds like it should be in a horror movie, I was half expecting workers to meet grisly ends on overhead wires or get hit by trains!

    • @Rich-bb5gp
      @Rich-bb5gp 7 місяців тому +1

      Well, it is a horror movie... if you're a crow!

  • @kevinenticott2206
    @kevinenticott2206 2 роки тому +12

    Excellent, and so nice to see views of Rugby station and surrounding areas back in 1967 too, thanks 👍

  • @Wheels-Wheels-Wheels
    @Wheels-Wheels-Wheels 2 роки тому +7

    Love these old British Transport Films. Thanks for posting them.

  • @nemo6686
    @nemo6686 2 роки тому +14

    It's like Hitchcock meets rail modernisation.

  • @alwynjones3378
    @alwynjones3378 2 роки тому +8

    Fascinating. Also such diversity of accents. Really enjoyed that.

  • @alexanderbartell208
    @alexanderbartell208 10 місяців тому +1

    The irony is that those Rooks have probably been nesting in those same trees long before the overhead wires came along.

  • @stephendines1936
    @stephendines1936 2 роки тому +15

    When we had a proper railway

  • @lufbrex6474
    @lufbrex6474 2 роки тому +7

    Health and safety would have a field day these days seeing the 2 gangers working on those wooden ladders 🤣 loved the video 😀

  • @kimjongbingbongtingtong4430
    @kimjongbingbongtingtong4430 2 роки тому +7

    Grew up around where this was filmed and even remember being scared by the PW horn going off at 2:46 because we used to sit on the embankment in the background on Sunday afternoons having a picnic when the weather allowed it. Still spend many happy hours in this part of the world, walking for fitness and hoping something a bit more interesting than a unit or intermodal might be going past

  • @brianfearn4246
    @brianfearn4246 2 роки тому +6

    Very interesting indeed how smooth things seemed to operate on the railway over 50 years ago.

  • @djtrainspotter
    @djtrainspotter 2 роки тому +2

    Top notch documentary right there!

  • @RobertdMacGregor
    @RobertdMacGregor 2 роки тому +2

    The signaler with the IC Swallow tattooed on his hand at the start is dedicated!

    • @ruane1995
      @ruane1995 2 роки тому +2

      Before IC Swallow existed ;)

  • @western-oud1898
    @western-oud1898 Місяць тому

    Marvelous...1960's 70's documentary film making had a certain atmospheric feeling to them didn't they..they just dont make programming like that anymore

  • @fordson51
    @fordson51 2 роки тому +1

    Bit of a repeat comment, but this is one I have been watching out for. Saw this a few years ago on another channel, then it was deleted. Nice to see it back again.

  • @MrDavil43
    @MrDavil43 2 роки тому +4

    There were definite echoes of the military there in terms of "officers" and "men". The chap demonstrating the springy insulator was hilarious with his smug manner. So interesting to see the changes in technology and attitudes compared with today. And the liberally applied Brylcreem!

    • @ianjones4116
      @ianjones4116 2 роки тому +1

      My dad could lube a Sulzer with his Brylcream lol.
      44yr man was my dad. Loved it when he took me out in the cab. Couldnt do it these days . They would crucify you for it.
      😎👍

  • @spencersmith7266
    @spencersmith7266 2 роки тому +1

    In the distance, the old Railway Inn pub, near Brinklow Marina, to the left side of the over-bridge at 20m 50s in the film. Pub closed back in 2000, I believe. As a kid in the late '70s, it was a great place to watch trains through the rear window, while sipping a glass of coke.

    • @pburr1973
      @pburr1973 Місяць тому +1

      We used to go there a lot in the 1980s - look down on the trains in the car park, they would silently streak through the countryside. Then avoiding getting killed, to cross over the road and walk towards the Oxford Canal.

    • @spencersmith7266
      @spencersmith7266 Місяць тому

      @@pburr1973 Gosh. Yes, that road was more dangerous than the railway line below! Cheers.

  • @eddherring4972
    @eddherring4972 2 роки тому +2

    3:53 now there’s an expression to fill you with confidence! “Don’t panic Mr Mainwaring.”

  • @Rich-bb5gp
    @Rich-bb5gp 7 місяців тому

    I love how the station announcer at about 4' in over-pronounces the names.

  • @Scouser89Liverpool22
    @Scouser89Liverpool22 2 роки тому

    Love these vintage films, glad today’s railway uniforms are lot more visible to people bright orange

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 9 місяців тому

      This film shows the very beginnings of hi vis! I've got a 1990s BR one I got in Crewe; I actually wear it for my litter picking / volunteering!

  • @Rob1Rich
    @Rob1Rich 2 роки тому +4

    12.35 to avoid spending a million we've spent a fiver on this contraption.

  • @nickbarber9502
    @nickbarber9502 2 роки тому +1

    Intriguing music.

  • @tb-cg6vd
    @tb-cg6vd 2 роки тому +2

    In 1967 Star Trek was using eerie, skittering electronica To Boldly Go Where No Man has Gone Before!
    Meanwhile, in the UK it was deemed suitable for British Tranport promotional films. Now I ask, where is the real genius???

  • @simonf8902
    @simonf8902 2 роки тому +1

    The existential signalman. And check the fancy white telephones. Posh. When the relay kicks in with a thunk it sound great. And the birth of hi viz and hard hats.

    • @danielsellers8707
      @danielsellers8707 9 місяців тому

      The birth of hi vis! I've got a 1990s BR hi vis I got in Crewe - I actually wear it!

  • @djcb4190
    @djcb4190 2 роки тому

    All right. First, first train line. Then, if the train you want to send to already collides with another train. Put Double track next to a station. Then add appropriate block signals.

  • @jonmortermusic
    @jonmortermusic 2 роки тому +2

    Legendary unit manager Ted Eggs of course

  • @mark9978
    @mark9978 2 роки тому +2

    A wonderful piece of nostalgia for a lost world. But I agree with the comments about the music - strange and downbeat, completely at odds with the positive nature of the subject.

    • @antdan5787
      @antdan5787 Рік тому

      The music was futuristic and full of suspense especially when they thought Thier colleague was bat **** crazy for saying the birds were the cause of the flash failures. Especially when it kept on happening
      🕊️🕊️🕊️🐧😂🤣

  • @jimthorne304
    @jimthorne304 2 роки тому +1

    A certain amount of entertainment arises if you have the sub-titles on!

  • @gplunk
    @gplunk 7 місяців тому

    Those birds were nothing but trouble for them power lines!

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah staying in the S&T engineering department gave you a blue PT and not much else... station managers got the first class PT's and something like 20 more free tickets anywhere in Europe a year for family plus a hefty discount on Motorail and Sleepers which the blue 2nd class one didn't get. Executive grades at Euston House and other regional centres got 1st class travel anywhere, 1st class brake pass, tube travel free and a whole lot of perks the humble worker never dreamed existed... British Rail was run for the railwaymen hehe

    • @spunkospunko4800
      @spunkospunko4800 2 роки тому

      My sister still got hers at 71 part of her “settlement “ apparently

  • @andybray9791
    @andybray9791 2 роки тому

    Look at the things that changed now

  • @mce_AU
    @mce_AU 2 роки тому

    Nice simple video.

  • @clayton4115
    @clayton4115 2 роки тому +1

    having a smoke in the control room lol

  • @tonyross1230
    @tonyross1230 Рік тому

    Hello from AW Ross Could we see the damaged component would be most welcome Our thanks to all those involved

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 2 роки тому +4

    "The oh nine hours from London Eus-ton to Manchester?" And the narrator, at particularly "in the panel hyahh" at4:09. Were they participating in a competition to see who could do the most caricature posh accent they could get away with?

  • @djcb4190
    @djcb4190 2 роки тому

    Signalling for my instance I experiment with block signals.

  • @johnlarkin2980
    @johnlarkin2980 2 роки тому +1

    I can remember Rugby station when it was like this. Even the woman announcing the trains, she did it for years. It’s interesting the way that people spoke then. By the Middle of the 1970s all them pompous old twats must have retired, because you couldn’t talk down to people like that. As for the 100mph trains, yes they were fast but you would struggle to stand up if you left your seat. They used to swaying all over the place

  • @simonf8902
    @simonf8902 2 роки тому +5

    Loving the silver BR lion and wheel on the electric locos. Shame they lost that for the stupid lines.

  • @patsematary
    @patsematary 2 роки тому +1

    the sixties were twenty years after ww2 it means an evolved modern world but still tied to past and tradition. last 50 years are J.G. Ballard’s worst and most degraded nightmares

  • @MiLLwallpaul231258
    @MiLLwallpaul231258 Рік тому

    When the railways were railways

  • @Slider2732_
    @Slider2732_ Рік тому

    The fix, being to put rubber or plastic sleeves over the top wires at bridges?
    I didn't hear of a fix in the film, but presume they didn't just keep on fixing the lines over and over.

  • @jacquelinelapthorne3920
    @jacquelinelapthorne3920 7 місяців тому

    AL1 AL2 AL3 AL4 AL5 AL6 10 OUT OF 10 THANKS MARK BCFC 1875

  • @ricbchirop4355
    @ricbchirop4355 2 роки тому +2

    20.27 LOL does he say Black Bastards

  • @theonlyantony
    @theonlyantony 2 роки тому

    Music by Radiophonic Workshop?

  • @PaulPavlinovich
    @PaulPavlinovich 2 роки тому

    grand old video

  • @djcb4190
    @djcb4190 2 роки тому

    The Caledonian Sleeper.

  • @Mariazellerbahn
    @Mariazellerbahn 2 роки тому

    They all look ready for retirement.

  • @ianburnett7333
    @ianburnett7333 Рік тому

    When I worked S&T Clapham junction new Signalling Centre opened 1980 in stages, it was a Disaster! Area Signal Engineer was 'Wrong man for the job'had to be paid off, replacement told by Chairman BR Board that he was to be sacked in 6 months time unless failure rate dropped, bought in a man from Swanley led a task force team, found lots of bad working practices, he reduced failure rate. In

  • @hermanmunster3358
    @hermanmunster3358 2 роки тому +2

    Why is it that whenever you hear somebody speak with a 'POSH' accent, it always sounds condescending, and as if they are reading from a script? As opposed to those who speak with localised accents, who usually always sound natural!

    • @eugenemurray2940
      @eugenemurray2940 11 місяців тому

      The accent is clear...
      Was invented so The Brummie could understand someone from Newcastle

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 2 роки тому +2

    Hmm no one should mention it to the signalmen that by 2021 they are all gone pretty much as Network Rail moves to put signalling clerks in the new single signalling centre in Euston... Where the railways always had a man on the ground somewhere to deter criminals etc the station staff gone in favour of machines and cameras, criminals think its abs heaven knowing they can leisurely stroll away from robbing a passenger as the nearest old bill is 45 mins away and no station staff there for women to turn to because the drunken lad is trying to drag her down an alley. Well done Tory's for taking something that worked and turning it into a positive nightmare for many users and workers and of course if we still had all them Railfreight Depots the HGV crisis would never have happened or the fuel crisis... and STILL the benighted fools out there vote them in again and again and again!

  • @ianjones4116
    @ianjones4116 2 роки тому +3

    20.25,,, thank god hes talking about the Crows. !!!
    Get the sack these days, for just thinking that . Lol

    • @AndreiTupolev
      @AndreiTupolev 2 роки тому +1

      🤣

    • @AndreiTupolev
      @AndreiTupolev 2 роки тому +2

      I'm surprised the word "b*stards" was allowed in an official British Transport Films production 🤐

    • @Thornaby37
      @Thornaby37 2 роки тому +1

      I suppose they got away with it because they were referring to creatures of a certain colour, and not the ethnic background of fellow human beings

  • @ericmoorhouse9822
    @ericmoorhouse9822 2 роки тому +1

    Come on wooden ladders are safer , but the speed of other trains is to fast when men are working so close

    • @robhardie6687
      @robhardie6687 2 роки тому

      The 'position of safety' for workers on 125mph lines is still only 6'6" from the track!

  • @donaldhartley1357
    @donaldhartley1357 2 роки тому +1

    A

  • @JintySteam1
    @JintySteam1 2 роки тому

    Fried crows.

  • @wheezypalacemodels7726
    @wheezypalacemodels7726 2 роки тому +11

    When the railways actually worked without the faffing of today… Bosses got the job done without snowflakes that didn’t want to work like nowadays…Great footage..

    • @grahamariss2111
      @grahamariss2111 2 роки тому +10

      That is complete rubbish, the 60s was a time of rail strikes and the WCML featured in this film was only able to handle 25% of the passengers it handles today even without the strikes.

    • @wheezypalacemodels7726
      @wheezypalacemodels7726 2 роки тому +2

      @@grahamariss2111 to be fair, you are probably right actually. I was born in 1967 so never had first hand experience. Perhaps better while steamers then? It all seems so much easier (although dirtier of course!!)…Nostalgia is a great thing to look back on without the hassles of modern day life..be it railway related or departmental issues within. Perhaps I need a history lesson on strikes etc then!! Still great footage though….

    • @grahamariss2111
      @grahamariss2111 2 роки тому +5

      @@wheezypalacemodels7726 It is good footage, but this film is corporate propaganda, all they are going to show is everything working perfectly, as they would today in a cooperate advert for the cinema if such things were still made.

    • @osiris8637
      @osiris8637 2 роки тому +2

      Graham Ariss Hit the nail on the head there. I’ve been working on the rails now for a little while and can say with full confidence it is shambles, especially with management/control. A lot of the people lower down in the hierarchy pyramid are actually pretty good but get so so much shit and get left to hang out to dry by their superiors who never have to deal with some of the horrible passengers you come across or lend a helping hand.

    • @simonf8902
      @simonf8902 2 роки тому

      Sorry. It’s a fun film but it’s pure propaganda.

  • @antdan5787
    @antdan5787 Рік тому

    Warrwintong wigone

  • @TheGlassman63
    @TheGlassman63 2 роки тому

    4:14 Austin Powers.

  • @thomasm1964
    @thomasm1964 2 роки тому

    Love the stilted, scripted dialogues!

  • @nickmagee-brown739
    @nickmagee-brown739 10 місяців тому

    Why do we need HS2 when we already have this fantastic line, good on the conservatives for finally cancelling this labour white elephant. Let's upgrade the WCML instead.

  • @daryl2510
    @daryl2510 2 роки тому

    buggers and bastards... They don't like the crows do they lol

  • @markhylton7278
    @markhylton7278 2 роки тому

    Very bad error the Beeching era