A Man For All Seasons - Paul Scofield, John Hurt

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  • @seaglass22
    @seaglass22 Рік тому +28

    My favourite film of all time.
    "... but for Wales!"

  • @newperve
    @newperve 3 роки тому +104

    Here we see a man given the opportunity to keep his soul, and reject it.

    • @kcuhc84
      @kcuhc84 3 роки тому +19

      To exchange your soul for the world is a bad bargain.
      But for Wales?

    • @SanuJose1273
      @SanuJose1273 10 місяців тому +1

      Great comment, great observation.

    • @pub7496
      @pub7496 3 місяці тому

      Beautifuly put

    • @michaelbayer5094
      @michaelbayer5094 3 місяці тому +1

      "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"
      The Gospel of Mark
      Poor Rich. When More describes the bribes at Court, Rich's desire increases. More should have warned him of the treachery of their perilous times, and how displeasing the King leads to execution.

    • @Easy-Eight
      @Easy-Eight 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelbayer5094 *and how displeasing the King leads to execution* Moore kept his honor. Richard sold his. Seriously, what has changed? We see the former speaker of the house who is worth over $100 million. Her pay per year is less than $200K.

  • @barbararey4337
    @barbararey4337 6 років тому +150

    Scofields' solid, quiet, wise performance is unforgettable.

    • @MrDavey2010
      @MrDavey2010 4 роки тому +7

      Superb actor. Full of sincerity.

    • @furdiebant
      @furdiebant 4 роки тому +6

      Greatest performance which won the Oscar

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 3 роки тому +3

      @@furdiebant yes! Deeply touching!!!❤

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 2 місяці тому

      And a distortion of the reality. For balance, "Wolf Hall."

    • @patty1094
      @patty1094 2 місяці тому +1

      @@andywomack3414 Just as distorted and unbalanced, only from the other side.

  • @1515327E
    @1515327E 2 роки тому +97

    I was a teacher when I saw this and felt exactly the same way as Rich; that what I was doing didn't matter; that it was of no use. To me, I was just another "...brick in the wall." as Pink Floyd put it. It's now 33 years later; I left teaching and then returned, and thankfully, finally know what More meant. God is a great public.

    • @markellott5620
      @markellott5620 Рік тому +12

      I have spent most of my adult life teaching. Adults in a vocational environment and more recently to ride motorcycles. Years after, students will remember you long after you have forgotten them. We make a difference to their lives.

    • @johne.taylor2457
      @johne.taylor2457 9 місяців тому

      Richard (in the movie) portrayed a historical figure who was a very evil politician.
      He should have been a teacher.

    • @nickbarton3191
      @nickbarton3191 3 місяці тому

      Perhaps the most important profession, I would have loved to have the talent for it. Sadly, all that I've learnt will die with me.

    • @iainclark5964
      @iainclark5964 3 місяці тому +1

      A good teacher is worth their weight in gold. The can transform lives, they can help someone create a vision for the lives and help them go about achieving it.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 2 місяці тому +1

      @@johne.taylor2457 They were all evil politicians, it's how one survived in that world as such.
      Rich died in bed, 70+ years old, had many children and a career serving several monarchs with wildly divergent religious views.
      If given a choice I'd rather be Rich than Cromwell or More, even though he is considered an arch villain by modern historic fiction writers. He was a survivor, and thrived in a dangerous place and time. That has a virtue all it's own.
      Remember that what is portrayed in movies is only in the movies. Even in the movies though, I'd rather be Rich.

  • @Dustshoe
    @Dustshoe 3 роки тому +77

    'If I was, who would know about it?'
    'You! Your pupils, your friends. God. Not a bad public, that.'
    In today's terms, the shallowness of celebrity may well involve a terrible public. A shallow bunch of fans and hangers-on. With the death watch beetles ready to hollow out a reputation once a celebrity dies.
    More gives Richard Rich very good advice that is very apt today.

    • @viborgvee8399
      @viborgvee8399 Рік тому

      Oh Lord grant me rest from the constant comparisons with today’s times.

    • @robertstaples3256
      @robertstaples3256 8 місяців тому +2

      @@viborgvee8399 Oh Lord, if only this man understood that the story of humankind is one of consideration of the past to apply its lessons to the present to better our future.

  • @Vesnicie
    @Vesnicie 3 роки тому +70

    I'd say that cup could be melted down to precisely 30 pieces of silver.

    • @NYCZ31
      @NYCZ31 6 місяців тому +1

      Later it is said to have cost 100 shillings.

    • @theresajenislawski
      @theresajenislawski 5 місяців тому +1

      @@NYCZ31 and that the resale value was merely fifty.

  • @seanrcollier
    @seanrcollier 2 роки тому +39

    "You, your pupils, your friends, God... Not a bad public, that."
    Actual great advice that I've actually tried to employ in my own life

  • @Kinopanorama1
    @Kinopanorama1 7 років тому +119

    Paul Scofield acted with effortless art. What a performer.

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 3 роки тому +4

      Wonderful wonderful actor!❤

    • @hellbooks3024
      @hellbooks3024 3 роки тому +3

      Effortlessness. The appearance of which is sometimes the goal. Like George Burns said about sincerity: “If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”

    • @therespectedlex9794
      @therespectedlex9794 Рік тому

      Autistic bargee

  • @johntechwriter
    @johntechwriter 3 роки тому +73

    Even this young, John Hurt holds his own with Britain's finest actor.

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 3 роки тому +9

      The two are brilliant!

    • @ppuh6tfrz646
      @ppuh6tfrz646 2 роки тому +10

      Hurt is good in this but let's not get carried away.
      Scofield eclipsed everybody in this film.

    • @Ruda-n4h
      @Ruda-n4h 2 роки тому +7

      @@ppuh6tfrz646 Yes, but it's also one of those rare films when everyone in it is good.

    • @ppuh6tfrz646
      @ppuh6tfrz646 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ruda-n4h I didn't think Corin Redgrave, Susannah York or Colin Blakely were particularly good.

    • @damonhager7085
      @damonhager7085 2 роки тому +7

      Hurt is outstanding, as usual, but this was a fine ensemble performance. Leo McKern was also excellent as Cromwell.

  • @fporretto
    @fporretto 3 роки тому +58

    The script for this screenplay may be the highest achievement of any screenwriter in history. If he had done nothing else, Robert Bolt would be an immortal for this alone.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 2 місяці тому

      It is every bit as real as "Game of Thrones."

    • @eugeneclasby518
      @eugeneclasby518 Місяць тому

      And he is almost never mentioned as the source of the great drama and brilliant dialogue. Thanks for your comment.

  • @davidm2688
    @davidm2688 5 років тому +63

    Schofield was born to play Sir Thomas More. What a masterful film.

    • @ppuh6tfrz646
      @ppuh6tfrz646 4 роки тому

      Scofield.

    • @westlock
      @westlock 3 роки тому +1

      He had performed the stage version hundreds of times, so he knew the role backwards and forwards. Leo McKern had played Cromwell in many of those performances, so he also was very well rehearsed.

    • @ppuh6tfrz646
      @ppuh6tfrz646 3 роки тому +3

      @@westlock That doesn't alter the fact that Scofield was born to play Thomas More. This is proven further by the fact that Scofield was uncomfortable acting in front of a camera and had to rethink his performance when making the film.

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 3 роки тому +1

      @@ppuh6tfrz646 yes. His finest role!❤

  • @marklivingstone3710
    @marklivingstone3710 Рік тому +20

    One of my favourite lines in this film was when More notices Rich wearing a new office and is told he has been appointed Attorney General of Wales. Mores response was, it profits a man little to sell his soul for the whole world, but for Wales?

  • @noahmcclintock5866
    @noahmcclintock5866 7 років тому +63

    R.I.P. John Hurt (1940-2017)

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 3 роки тому +4

    • @woodwyrm
      @woodwyrm 3 місяці тому

      He is counted, old King Hurt!

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 3 місяці тому

      Greatest English actor. 👍

  • @markwaldron8954
    @markwaldron8954 3 роки тому +44

    Scofield comes across as a genuinely wise man, rather than an actor playing one.

    • @jeffryhammel3035
      @jeffryhammel3035 3 роки тому +3

      Best comment of all. Thanks.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 2 місяці тому +2

      And also distorts the reality of the time, Suggest "Wolf Hall" for a balancing distortion.

  • @deanphilipsaunders775
    @deanphilipsaunders775 3 роки тому +29

    Thank the good Lord for Sir Thomas More......a Catholic man with true faith and supreme conviction.

    • @zachariatekawaare4761
      @zachariatekawaare4761 3 роки тому +5

      I am not certain that the protestants of the developing new faith shared your same enthusiasm for sir Thomas.

    • @jeffryhammel3035
      @jeffryhammel3035 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you. I was raised Catholic, but hold no real heroes; aside from folks like Thomas Moore and Martin Luther. I know your comment may bring some negativism, but I look at it as just a declaration of a fine human being.

    • @jeffryhammel3035
      @jeffryhammel3035 3 роки тому +2

      @@zachariatekawaare4761 Nice comment; but all the same - whether Protestant or Catholic, these are all God's people fighting for humanity. Let's all care the less for perceived differences.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake Рік тому

      @@zachariatekawaare4761 just like Richard Rich.

    • @johnmarcucci1719
      @johnmarcucci1719 5 місяців тому +1

      @@zachariatekawaare4761 I should sooner belong to the faith founded by Christ Himself, whilst He walked upon the Earth, than anything "new and developing".

  • @ppuh6tfrz646
    @ppuh6tfrz646 4 роки тому +52

    0:56 What Thomas More says: 'Well, if you know Cromwell, you don't need my help.'
    What he means: 'Well, if you associate with Cromwell, then God help you.'

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 4 роки тому +2

      Very underrated reply. Props. ☆

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 3 роки тому +2

      A turning point for richard... as Thomas speaks wisdom...

  • @christophergriffin4643
    @christophergriffin4643 Рік тому +5

    John Hurt and Ian Holm - 2 truly superb actors who gave the Alien film a touch of class

  • @ppuh6tfrz646
    @ppuh6tfrz646 2 роки тому +6

    Scofield just exudes honesty and integrity as Sir Thomas More.
    He plays the role perfectly.

  • @furdiebant
    @furdiebant 4 роки тому +13

    The best performance by an actor who won the Best Actor Oscar for such performance

  • @zhongwa
    @zhongwa 8 років тому +114

    The scene is a simple test of character -- and Rich flunked it.

    • @Tehgoat
      @Tehgoat 6 років тому +6

      Try waiting for your boss all night and as soon as they arrive they play fucking mind games
      It wasn't a test, it was a demonstration of More kicking a dog and feeling smug about it

    • @newperve
      @newperve 6 років тому +26

      He didn't ask for him to wait all night and he didn't play games. He stated the offer and why he should take it plainly.

    • @Tehgoat
      @Tehgoat 6 років тому +2

      @@newperve
      He shut down the guy's ambitions of an appointment to Court whilst waving a literal bribe in his face

    • @newperve
      @newperve 6 років тому +47

      @Teh Goat Yes and the bribe was a straightforward demonstration of why he shouldn't seek a place at court. Either Richard Rich could withstand the temptation or he couldn't, and More obviously thought he couldn't (correctly). So he made the argument that he should avoid the temptation, a good argument. He offered him a job, not a kick, and it's not a bad job either. A servant, a house, no danger, reasonable hours and 50 pounds a year isn't bad. Indeed More might have preferred it to his own job. Yes Richard Rich had ambitions, but he didn't have the character to justify them and everyone knew it. More told him as straight as he could, the opposite of game playing.

    • @zhongwa
      @zhongwa 5 років тому +21

      I'll re-state it slightly -- it's a test of Rich's Christian character. Do not covet worldly things, seek your final treasure in Heaven with God. More knows in his heart Rich can't withstand even the simplest temptations of this material world. What's more, he likes Rich and wants him to live a "good" life (again, in the Christian sense) which is why he suggested the teaching job and to live the "simple life."
      But Sir Thomas needed to show Rich WHY teaching would be the better option for him, hence the test with the silver goblet.

  • @shahramtoopal3332
    @shahramtoopal3332 2 роки тому +4

    One of best scene ever I have seen.

  • @fiandrhi
    @fiandrhi 5 років тому +12

    What a wonderful scene. I should see this movie.

    • @stevenverb5665
      @stevenverb5665 4 роки тому +1

      Have you seen it yet? I know it got somewhat mixed reviews on its release, personally I really enjoyed it

    • @fiandrhi
      @fiandrhi 4 роки тому +3

      @MaGuffintop I did not regret it!

    • @MrDavey2010
      @MrDavey2010 4 роки тому

      This is a must-see movie. Classic.

    • @mikeriesco6174
      @mikeriesco6174 3 роки тому +1

      Lucky You -- who has not seen it, and can therefore have that amazing experience to look forward to!

  • @LawrencetheMinstrel
    @LawrencetheMinstrel 15 років тому +25

    I wish there was a good man to advise me what to do, like Thomas More. *sigh* Thanks for posting this.

    • @jeffreykalb9752
      @jeffreykalb9752 3 роки тому +2

      Then watch the movie again.

    • @DanBeech-ht7sw
      @DanBeech-ht7sw 6 місяців тому

      Did you ever get a resolution to the problem that was besetting you?

  • @jeffreykalb9752
    @jeffreykalb9752 3 роки тому +4

    Incredible movie. Incredible acting.

  • @tomservo5347
    @tomservo5347 3 роки тому +12

    Rich is one of those dangerous types who'll do anything for advancement. Much like in Julius Caesar where Caesar points out Cassius stating "Cassius has a lean and hungry look about him-such men are dangerous." Of all the Shakespeare we read in high school that quote is the one that stuck with me. I've seen plenty of it in my 20 years in the workforce.

  • @jimstanga6390
    @jimstanga6390 4 роки тому +30

    Scofield would have made a good Vulcan...

  • @wikipediaintellectual7088
    @wikipediaintellectual7088 5 років тому +22

    “Sir Thomas, thank you.”
    “........... Be a teacher.”

  • @e1ay3dme12
    @e1ay3dme12 3 роки тому +16

    Brilliant. The first camera shot says it all. Rich has been waiting for 2 days, scheming in his head. He is immediately rebuked by a lowly boatmen. "Mind the way, sir." He walks away dejected. Perfect example of the mediocre type that is attracted to politics and the Faustian bargain he must make.

  • @stnicholas54
    @stnicholas54 5 років тому +24

    2.01 - "A man should go where he won't be tempted". I'd love to know of such a place.

    • @Joe-uw5rv
      @Joe-uw5rv 4 роки тому +9

      I think he meant beyond the measure of his limit

    • @blackbird5634
      @blackbird5634 3 роки тому +3

      @@Joe-uw5rv very well said.

    • @kh_qft762
      @kh_qft762 3 роки тому +3

      @@Joe-uw5rv Wise Joe

    • @Joe-uw5rv
      @Joe-uw5rv 3 роки тому +6

      Thanks guys. Occasionally I get things right.

    • @spiritofseventysix1155
      @spiritofseventysix1155 2 роки тому

      🤔l luv your insightful comment here that is indeed a challenge for many a man; reminded of Alexa Zorba in Zorba The Greek when Basil his Boss asks are you married Zorba, and Zorba's response:
      Is a man not Stupid,
      am I not a man,
      I am a man...
      So I married: wife, children, house, everything,
      the full catastrophe 😏🙃😉
      Who wouldn't be tempted...
      Perhaps only a man like Alexa Zorba, now wiser with ageless experiences and perception on what life has to offer and who he is...a man that knows sometime you have to undue your belt and go out and look for trouble...

  • @Lytton333
    @Lytton333 5 років тому +13

    To travel by boat along the snaking Thames from Hampton Court to Chelsea would be approximately 18 miles. Assuming the boatman could row at 5mph non stop (a very brisk walking pace) it would take over three and a half hours. Then travelling back of course. So that's seven hours rowing almost non stop at 5mph, without a break. Would have to be a superman with tireless arms of iron to achieve that!

    • @Mathemagical55
      @Mathemagical55 4 роки тому +6

      Eighteen miles seems a bit high looking at a map but it's certainly at least fifteen or sixteen miles. However, a professional oarsman could maintain 3 mph for hours and with the tide in your favour you could easily pick up another 5 mph. Going upstream would take much longer of course.

    • @coolcat1684
      @coolcat1684 2 роки тому +1

      He should have given the silver goblet to him …

  • @vinsvids1
    @vinsvids1 Рік тому +4

    More knew the measure of the man in an instant, and it had nothing to do with his stature. It had to do with his appetites.

  • @albi55uk
    @albi55uk 5 місяців тому +1

    The growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.
    Eliot, George

  • @redsquirrel1086
    @redsquirrel1086 5 років тому +13

    The acting in this scene is sublime.
    John Hurt must have been about 12 when this film was made!

    • @ambrosemclaren145
      @ambrosemclaren145 4 роки тому +4

      Red Squirrel The acting is superb because the casting is superb. Robert Bolt's genius in using the actual court transcripts is icing on the cake.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 3 роки тому +4

      About 26.

  • @Kitiwake
    @Kitiwake Рік тому +5

    This scene defines the character of both men.
    Rich received the bribe and effectively converted it to his own use, rather than treating it for what was...a corrupted, putrid, sinful temptation.
    No just cause arises from a wrongful act.
    Ex turpi causa non oriter actio". A legal maxim today derived from Catholic teaching.
    So Rich should have tried to return it, if not, give it to someone else... Generally dispose of it.
    More knew that. That's why he tested Rich, who failed miserably.

  • @Necron990
    @Necron990 2 місяці тому +2

    Norfolk:"... the moment he realized it was a bribe he dropped it into the nearest gutter."

  • @ppuh6tfrz646
    @ppuh6tfrz646 2 роки тому +2

    I love the look More gives Rich at 1:22.
    It's brilliant and so understated.

    • @Ruda-n4h
      @Ruda-n4h 2 роки тому +1

      I like the look More gives him at 1.46 when he asks him about the cup - 'what will you do with it?'

  • @shanekilpatrick3378
    @shanekilpatrick3378 2 місяці тому +1

    I can watch this movie forever. One of the greatest political films ever. Great scene. Your pupils, family and friends, God. Not a bad public that. Brilliant. Instead he sold his soul for Wales.

  • @heidilikez2sing
    @heidilikez2sing 14 років тому +18

    John Hurt used to look like Ringo Starr... How cute!

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 7 років тому +12

      Well, the movie was filmed in the mid '60s, the height of Beatlemania.
      Back then, EVERYONE wanted to look like a Beatle :-)

  • @vinsvids1
    @vinsvids1 2 роки тому +6

    Who today could have written this script?
    Few scribes remain with the character, decency and talent to do so.

    • @eugeneclasby518
      @eugeneclasby518 Місяць тому

      His name is Robert Bolt. Almost everyone has forgotten that he wrote all this wonderful drama and dialogue. May he rest in peace.

  • @bigkahunauk1
    @bigkahunauk1 7 років тому +6

    RIP John Hurt

  • @Air-Striegler
    @Air-Striegler 5 років тому +1

    Magnificent.

  • @ericscottstevens
    @ericscottstevens 7 років тому +9

    I'm related to Richard Rich and proud of it!

    • @TDPDK1
      @TDPDK1 4 роки тому +4

      You twoo, be a teacher😂

    • @mikegoodwin2386
      @mikegoodwin2386 3 роки тому

      I'm descended from Richard Rich. Not too sure how proud we should be of that, lol.
      RICHARD RICH, 1ST BARON OF LEEZ (1496-1567) 14TH GREAT GRANDFATHER
      WINIFRED RICH (1534-1578) DAUGHTER OF RICHARD
      JOHN NORTH (1551-1597) SON OF WINIFRED
      JOHN NORTH (1570-1619) SON OF JOHN
      RICHARD NORTH (1595-1667) SON OF JOHN
      SUSANNA NORTH (1621-1692) DAUGHTER OF RICHARD
      JANE MARTIN (1656-1684) DAUGHTER OF SUSANNA
      ESTHER HADLEY (1676-1729) DAUGHTER OF JANE
      NATHAN GOODWIN (1714-1821) SON OF ESTHER
      BENJAMIN GOODWIN (1748-?) SON OF NATHAN
      BENJAMIN C GOODWIN (1780-1856) SON OF BENJAMIN
      ARCHIBALD BENJAMIN GOODWIN (1815-1896) SON OF BENJAMIN C
      CHRISTOPHER RANKIN GOODWIN (1846-1930) SON OF ARCHIBALD BENJAMIN
      ELLIS BRITTON GOODWIN (1870-1937) SON OF CHRISTOPHER RANKIN
      VERNON GOODWIN (1917-1985) SON OF ELLIS BRITTON
      MAURICE ROSS GOODWIN (1936-2002) SON OF VERNON
      MICHAEL ROSS GOODWIN (me) (1968- ) SON OF MAURICE ROSS

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@mikegoodwin2386 We split after John North (1551-1597)
      John North (your ancestor)
      his brother Dudley North 1581-1666 (is my ancestor).
      I think we are about 18th cousins or so.

    • @mikegoodwin2386
      @mikegoodwin2386 3 роки тому

      @@ericscottstevens that's amazing that we can trace this stuff.

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens 3 роки тому +1

      @@mikegoodwin2386 Just think what Richard would think, 15,000 + descendants. Even the North family who may have larger numbers of lineage. Crazy math if you think about it. I got my info from LDS when it was free online in the late 1990s.

  • @jamessheridan4306
    @jamessheridan4306 3 роки тому +1

    This is the only film dealing with Tudor England that I have ever encountered which features Richard Rich as a main character. Very strange when you consider the extraordinary lengths of his career. What a politician he must have been!

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 4 роки тому +1

    Please - tad higher volume. Merci. Love the scene.

  • @krisscanlon4051
    @krisscanlon4051 Рік тому +2

    Man, Hurt had to be in his 20s wow

  • @mlawlor472
    @mlawlor472 7 місяців тому +2

    The cup was a test. Rich failed. Hence why he was encouraged to become a teacher, not in government

  • @winstonsmith9533
    @winstonsmith9533 4 роки тому

    Great movie!

  • @colinlavelle7806
    @colinlavelle7806 Рік тому

    St Thoma More a man of principle.

  • @christopherpietsch147
    @christopherpietsch147 2 роки тому +1

    0:23 Start here:)

  • @starguy2718
    @starguy2718 3 роки тому +1

    John Hurt as Richie Rich, from the comic books?

  • @goodbarbenie5477
    @goodbarbenie5477 2 роки тому

    Friends....must always treated that will in one day they will become your greatest enemy... Napoleon Bonaparte...

  • @aljackson5086
    @aljackson5086 8 років тому +10

    I swear, john hurt always looked old

    • @angliase
      @angliase 7 років тому +3

      Al Jackson
      watch the Wild & the Willing when he was 20! Its on youtube..

    • @MrDavey2010
      @MrDavey2010 4 роки тому

      Like an old person inside waiting to get out.

    • @LordZontar
      @LordZontar 4 роки тому +1

      Just a little makeup was enough to make him look like he was on the point of death in a movie.

    • @Vesnicie
      @Vesnicie 3 роки тому

      I don't like to say old so much as he had a face that was "well lived in".

    • @LucyLCast
      @LucyLCast 3 місяці тому +1

      Not a handsome man, in fact I think as a younger man he was downright ugly, but a marvelous actor, with an enchanting voice, and a compelling look. He didn't shy away from difficult roles; I can't always handle them but I often end up watching anyway. What a loss it was when he passed away, but what a body of work he left behind. One of my favorites.

  • @TOMMOT1
    @TOMMOT1 8 років тому +1

    nice

  • @Paul-ie1xp
    @Paul-ie1xp 3 роки тому +1

    It probably wasn't intended in the script.... It may just have been John Hurt's terrific performance, but I think that Rich would have been loyal to More.

    • @1515327E
      @1515327E 2 роки тому +4

      He wasn't, even to himself.

    • @NH1973
      @NH1973 Рік тому +3

      He couldn't answer for himself, even so far as tonight

  • @timikopollard7867
    @timikopollard7867 7 місяців тому

    Trust me I'm running to my post April2024 DowntownLosAngeles,California UnitedStatesOfAmerica

  • @Akatosh86
    @Akatosh86 3 роки тому +4

    Paul Scofield looked like Jordan Peterson with a more commanding voice and much better ideas in this film

    • @blackbird5634
      @blackbird5634 3 роки тому +6

      if condescension and arrogance fixed things Peterson would be a force for good in this world.

    • @NothingHumanisAlientoMe
      @NothingHumanisAlientoMe 3 роки тому +2

      Tidy that room bucko

    • @Gauch36
      @Gauch36 3 роки тому +4

      Jordan Peterson doesn't deserve to be in any conversation about these two fine men. Simply no comparison.

    • @coolcat1684
      @coolcat1684 2 роки тому +1

      Hehe Peterson sounds like Kermit the frog…

    • @PeterDivine
      @PeterDivine 2 роки тому

      Please. Condescension and arrogance run rampant in the Internet Age, and JP is one of the only people even _trying_ to tell people to be less than their online popularity.

  • @eliterry3785
    @eliterry3785 2 роки тому +1

    By accepting that silver Richard highlights exactly why he’s not suited for higher office. Weakness exposed.

  • @hiltz0007
    @hiltz0007 2 роки тому +1

    Scofield looks tired! He must of done this literally truly when not enough sleep! In the movie he had been up all nite

  • @RobertClolery
    @RobertClolery Місяць тому

    Mandatory for all want a be actors and directors.

  • @broskibroski798
    @broskibroski798 6 років тому +3

    Why didn’t he listen.........

    • @Tridhos
      @Tridhos 6 років тому +1

      Well he did a lot better and died of old age in his bed,a far better ending than More's.

    • @sirderam1
      @sirderam1 6 років тому +6

      Tridhos. A better ending, perhaps, but Rich kept his head and lost his eternal character, More lost his head but preserved his eternal character. I suppose that whichever a person thinks better is one measure of that person. Not that I personally would claim to stand beside Sir Thomas More, but there is, perhaps, a middle ground? "Be a teacher." Perhaps an unremarkable, remembered, but honourable life is better than an eternity of damnation in the mouths of men.

    • @nottmjas
      @nottmjas 3 роки тому

      @@Tridhos but he's gone down as one of the most despicable individuals in English/British history.

    • @Ruda-n4h
      @Ruda-n4h 2 роки тому

      @@Tridhos A dreadful geezer - the Tony Blair of his age.

  • @sacradotjoannes
    @sacradotjoannes 3 місяці тому

    Wasted his words on this most devious and malicious of creatures Richard 1st Baron Rich. One devoid of love of God or the True Faith!

    • @Pdmc-vu5gj
      @Pdmc-vu5gj 3 місяці тому

      Protestants are the true Faith

  • @Theogenerang
    @Theogenerang Місяць тому

    Great lines but Sir Thomas wasn't content to remain a great lawyer. An ambitious man telling someone else to restrain their own ambition is inviting trouble.

  • @SammytheStampede
    @SammytheStampede 4 місяці тому

    Sadly, Rich took the Ring, er bribe.

  • @RussellAlami
    @RussellAlami 2 місяці тому

    Keir Starmer

  • @lease2coach170
    @lease2coach170 7 років тому +12

    Worth noting that the real-life Thomas More was an enthusiastic burner of heretics...
    This was still a great play/film, though.

    • @broskibroski798
      @broskibroski798 6 років тому +6

      lease2coach1 what’s wrong with that?

    • @Tridhos
      @Tridhos 6 років тому +4

      and some whose only crime was wanting to print the bible in English.

    • @aremgee3898
      @aremgee3898 6 років тому +6

      Tridhos Yeah print tge Bible in English, twist its interpretation to fool people into heresy and gather enough numbers to overthrow the government and remake the country, like what the Puritans and Huguenots did.

    • @ambrosemclaren145
      @ambrosemclaren145 4 роки тому +8

      Elizabeth l had Catholic priests who refused to give up their faith for the novel protestant anti-biblical doctrines hunted down and butchered by drawing and quartering. Look it up and see what gruesome thing it is.
      Under her reign an expectant mother who harbored such priests was placed on a stone floor with a pointed rock under her back. A very heavy door was placed over her. Large stones were placed on top of the door until she was crushed.
      I have never read in a single history book and I have read many written by protestants, that St Thomas More ever had anyone burned at the stake.
      Please provide references.

    • @Mathemagical55
      @Mathemagical55 4 роки тому +1

      @@ambrosemclaren145 Well you clearly need to do some more research. Any academic history of More will cover his prosecution of heretics and his apparent satisfaction with their fate. You can read More's own Apologia or modern biographies by Richard Marius or Peter Ackroyd.

  • @davidjamessheets
    @davidjamessheets 3 роки тому

    Scofield might be a master, but Hurt was capable of this: ua-cam.com/video/SEEwAvlJOcI/v-deo.html&=90s

  • @EmperorCaligula_EC
    @EmperorCaligula_EC 3 місяці тому

    Alas, the real Thomas More was not so kind a man.

  • @robertfield5904
    @robertfield5904 3 місяці тому

    Deute. 18:10-14,

  • @PeterT-i1w
    @PeterT-i1w 3 місяці тому

    oh, Saint Thomas, the burner of heretics

  • @XKT035
    @XKT035 7 років тому +4

    those that can, do; those that can't, teach

    • @CheshireFeline
      @CheshireFeline 4 роки тому +3

      Those that excel do both.

    • @ilokivi
      @ilokivi 3 роки тому

      Those that can't teach, lecture. And those that can't lecture, administrate.

    • @Ruda-n4h
      @Ruda-n4h 2 роки тому

      @@ilokivi A lot of witless cliches.

    • @nicklevitt6395
      @nicklevitt6395 2 місяці тому

      I'd forgotten what a masterpiece this film truly is

  • @avernvrey7422
    @avernvrey7422 6 років тому +4

    Rich passed with flying colors, both in the test and real life. It's More who actually wasn't suitable for the compromises required of public office. He's the one who should have been a teacher.

    • @zvonimirtosic6171
      @zvonimirtosic6171 5 років тому +14

      Thank you for your opinion, Thomas Cromwell.

    • @jonathanheidenreich8565
      @jonathanheidenreich8565 5 років тому +4

      Considering Moore's enthusiasm for burning "heretics" (Which included those who read the Bible in English), and his unwillingness to see past his own moral obsessions for the good of state (being a statesman), I agree. He should have been the Schoolhouse zealot, but clearly he had a pride and a desire to impose his power on others, otherwise he would never have sought the political ascension he achieved.

    • @maryanna348
      @maryanna348 5 років тому +6

      "Few historical accounts have managed to make the tale of Rich's career anything better than despicable in its opportunism and chameleon-like profession of religious belief." Diarmaid MacCulloch from Thomas Cromwell: A Revolutiohary Life, 2018.

    • @brandonwainscott7491
      @brandonwainscott7491 4 роки тому +5

      @@zvonimirtosic6171 I think the idea of the OP was More was too morally noble the dishonest world of politics was beneath his superior moral character. He should have entered into a more quiet, private life is the argument. Not that he wasn't fit or a great statesman. Of course, one needs honest statesmen, but maybe More's disposition wasn't that kind of honesty. Maybe his was that more fit for a quiet life without the troubles he underwent.

    • @njmccormackgmail
      @njmccormackgmail 3 роки тому

      @@jonathanheidenreich8565 Source?

  • @MrPicklerwoof
    @MrPicklerwoof Рік тому +1

    It's important for people to get an idea of just how terrible a person Thomas More was. There are no decent men in this film if you know your history. In reality, he was literally no better than Rich - regardless of how this fictional film chooses to portray him.

    • @Jordan22220
      @Jordan22220 Рік тому +4

      Wrong. Thomas More was a great man, a saint! He's in Heaven now

    • @MrPicklerwoof
      @MrPicklerwoof Рік тому +1

      @@Jordan22220 I'm not sure those he personally had burned at the stake would agree! But I guess being an evil murderer is fine as long as it's all done in the name of the church.

    • @ryangianan1439
      @ryangianan1439 8 місяців тому +1

      Heretics were a threat to society, in an age where freedom of religion and separation of church and state was non-existent. If the state allowed heretics to gain followers they would eventually threaten the monarch himself, as they would want to put one of their own on the throne, like what happened with the Huguenots in France, and the struggle between the Anglicans and Puritans in Britain. Your statement that More was an "enthusiastic" burner of heretics couldnt be farther from the truth as he was tasked as chancellor to implement laws against heresy. It was his job, not his hobby. It seems that its you who dont know squat about history😂

    • @ryangianan1439
      @ryangianan1439 8 місяців тому

      Heretics were a threat to society, in an age where freedom of religion and separation of church and state was non-existent. If the state allowed heretics to gain followers they would eventually threaten the monarch himself, as they would want to put one of their own on the throne, like what happened with the Huguenots in France, and the struggle between the Anglicans and Puritans in Britain. Your statement that More was an "enthusiastic" burner of heretics couldnt be farther from the truth as he was tasked as chancellor to implement laws against heresy. It was his job, not his hobby. It seems that its you who dont know squat about history😂

    • @Pdmc-vu5gj
      @Pdmc-vu5gj 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@ryangianan1439No. More had no issue with burning heretics and wrote passages praising it - the burning of the flesh. It was cruel and evil. Simply because the Protestants had a different interpretation of Christianity than the Catholic Church, which was extremely corrupt and sold indulgences. The fact that you would defend the vicious murder of people by burning simply because they espoused a different religious belief than you tells me all I need to know about your personal character. And your fundamental lack of morality and empathy.

  • @vondas1480
    @vondas1480 6 місяців тому +1

    2:11