The Life of Saint Thomas More (Documentary)
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God bless St. Thomas More and all those who have the courage to stand -up against oppression.
What about all those burned at the stake? God bless the murderer Thomas More.
@@ThurstonWhore1 Burning at the stake was an awful, awful practice. Thomas More though, out of all the hideous characters of that era (especially Henry VIIIth) was a good man and strived to be righteous - for that alone, he deserves our respect.
Someone who sent people to burn alive for owning a Bible in English (their own native tongue) does not deserve any form of respect, the man was a murderer yet thanks to religion he's become a Patrion Saint.
Religion makes good people do & say bad things, all you need to do is read the comments on here to realise this, "Oh burning people was very bad, he might have burnt a few, but he was a righteous man who deserved our respect"
I think it's fair to say we both differ on who we choose to respect.
@@ThurstonWhore1 So what are you saying, that we have to respect the protestant reformers? people like Cranmer and Cromwell who sent people to their deaths? Later, Oliver Cromwell committed genocide by murdering hundreds and thousands of children, women and men in Ireland - simply because they were Catholic. In one night alone, in 1527 over 8,000 Catholics were slaughtered by Protestants in Rome. Is this acceptable to you? If you had said both sides were evil, I would have agreed with you.
@@candyclews4047 No, what i am saying is Anyone who puts another on the rack or setences them to be burned alive does not deserve any form of respect, i'm not on any particular side per-say, i just have my own morals & common sense & don't take them from the same book as most people seem to on these comments here. He was a murderer, if you want to glorify him like the rest of the sheep on here then Shame on you too!
I cannot imagine any other actor to portray Thomas More other than Paul Scofield. Such a class act.
captainmorgan 757, NO ARGUMENT HERE!!🌞🌞🌞✌✌✌✌
Oh yes indeed so, magnificent. I don't know if Paul Scofield is Roman Catholic or not, but his Performance as St Thomas More was brilliant, and a great film, and a much better portrayel of the role than the modern TV version of St Thomas More
The guy from wolf hall was great he was qyburn in game of those and Harold
Macmillan in the crown.
Charlton Heston played him too, in a later version of 'A Man For All Seasons.'
True, and he is good, but not compared to Paul Scofield 😊
It's interesting to note that he St Thomas More is remembered much more favourably than King Henry the 8th, or Anne Bolyn, Cromwell, I think that speaks for itself
No, it speaks to the power of Roman Catholic propaganda.
His courage and bravery is something we should all wish to attain when it comes to our death. All the apostles, sir Thomas and Bishop fisher, I could only hope and pray I could be that strong in my faith.
His strength was one of a kind ⚔️
I highly respect this brave and honorable man, who deared to stand for truth and justice, even though it cost him his life !!!
What "truth"? And what "justice" did accord ro himself and not others? All historical figures are arseholes. To respect him is to belive that ethics don't change (and hopefully advance) and to believe that saying so gives tiu a gravitas you axiomatically wish to construct. What shear bunkum. Grow up. And gain just a modicum of education.
@@vebesese5632 the church is the pillar and foundation of truth and justice based on natural law... Both refer to and are the basis of the Catholic church.
Sir Thomas More, a man of great conscience, we need his type in this world today
We have them in the world. In fact very many but they are all ignored.
Dr. Jordan Peterson.
Like Sir Thomas, a man of conscience who uncompromisingly stands by politically-incorrect Truth -- and is persecuted for it.
Some things don't change.
I am not Catholic, but "A Man for All Seasons" is among my favorite movies.
The scene of him dying in The Tudors was so dignified and beautiful.
Great mini-documentary! And on a great man. :)
I can't say I agree with many of the practices of the Catholic Church myself, I'm more of a nondenominational Christian, but I do admire Sir Thomas More for standing on his principles, and he's called "A Man For All Seasons" because he was constant, consistent, in his beliefs, stuck with them until the bitter end. He was not afraid of anyone who thought differently of him, and he always did what he believed was right. It's no wonder to me why the Catholic Church has deemed him a saint, he does deserve some kind of high recognition for such virtue. :)
I think for the sake of religious freedom, there needed to be something along the lines of a Church of England, but in the way it was formed, according to what I see here, it was a terrible way to do it. More was persecuted for not buying into the corruptions of what he saw King Henry bringing into the church. And honestly, I can't blame him, because the real reason Henry created the Church of England in the first place was just so he could justify his divorce from Catherine and marry his mistress Anne, from how I see it. If I were More, I'd be pretty turned off by the new church, too, just for that reason.
I hope I meet Sir Thomas More in Heaven one day, and until that day comes, I want to be someone who's a lot like him, who knows how to be confident in his principles and not being afraid to say and do what's right. :)
What did Christ say to you lukewarm followers?..." I will spit you out of my mouth"
@@Kitiwake golly gee Pat where's all that Christian mercy and love I keep hearing about???
AishaVonFossen I do hope and pray that you one day become Catholic.
@@Powerranger-le4up why? why do you want him to become Catholic? what about all those molested boys?
@@suzycreamcheesez4371 Hey Suzy, thank you for defending me here. For the record, I don't mind anyone who is Catholic, I'm friends with a few Catholics and I think they're great Christians, but all I wanted to do here was peacefully state my opinion on Sir Thomas More. Also, I'm a woman. LOL
Certainly a man of tremendous courage and principles.
What should it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his own soul.
God bless him.
Ten years?! It's 2020 and we're still talking about him!
Just found out on Ancestry he is my 15th great grandfather....wow...so proud of him
Ora pro nobis, Sancte Thoma More
Yeah also mention how Sir Thomos had people burned alive for hersey or speaking out against the church. He was no different then other men of power, if you disagreed with his beliefs he had you kill just like Henry or other powerful men
When was that?
St. Thomas More was everything who could do it all and be so loved and never forgotten.
I love Thomas More. He was a truly inspirational man. If only there were more courageous and moral men and woman like him in the Senate and in Congress. America and our whole world would be a much better place.
You need to read some history books before making such a comment , more was not the saint he tried to portray, he conspired behind the king claiming silence when in truth he did nothing but write pamphlets and books condemning what the king was doing . The Catholic church at that time was in everyone's pockets and controlled counties as puppets , Henry broke with that , not with God but against the pope the whole of Europe was fighting the pipe at this time , it was not a new concept.
Tulsi Gabbard is just that kind of person! And look what they did to her!
In the debate? She Put every one of them in their place! Event knocking out
the actual vice president Kamala Harris! Politics = a big soap opera with very
shady actor playing a role!
A moral torturer?
@@32shumble yes
@@ceoofracism12based
Sir Thomas moore was a devout Roman Catholic his Catholic faith and his heart ♥ wouldn't let him renounce catholicism and the Pope as head of the church Thomas more was a true Englishman born in London and loyal to the king 👑 he died the King's good servant but God's first sir Thomas moore died for his faith in Christ's universal holy Catholic Church and truly believed in his heart that the Pope was the vicar of Christ head of the English church Thomas moore was a saint who died for his faith for Christ and his universal holy Catholic Church
REALLY !!!!!!!
He wasn't a Roman Catholic he was an English Catholic.
Roman Catholics live in the diocese of Rome. As a catholic he followed the Roman rite.
Thomas More personally had people racked in the Tower of London and two men burned alive as heretics.Some Saint.
Robert Lea Because he was part of the civil authorities who gave the orders. It was Henry VIII who executed them, not St. Thomas More.
Powerranger6342 Wrong.He was Lord Chancellor,he personally tortured men and women because of their faith.It wasn't Henry who turned the rack handle,it was More.
St. Thomas Moore pray for us.
you're insane
Sir Thomas Moore cannot hear you nor pray for you because God's Word says so. God also says we who believe in His Son our Beloved Saviour Lord Jesus Christ that we are ALL saints. In Paul's 2nd letter to the people of Corinth, chapter 5, verse 8, the Holy Spirit had Paul write: Absent from the body, present with the Lord. Once we are dead and in Christ's presence - that is IT. There is NO mediator, God says in His Word, for man on earth but the Man Jesus Christ - the Son of the Living God - our Redeeming Lord, Yeshua Ha Mashiach. So pray to God our Father in Jesus's Name, as Jesus taught His disciples. To do otherwise is blaspheming the Name and existence of God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit. PERIOD.
You know, you don't need him to pray for you, God will hear your prayers if you ask him. He is your Father in Heaven and He loves you. Make sure you do this in the name of Jesus Christ.
I love reading the quotws of peole more mentally ill than I am mentally ill.
@@FriendofRamblinJack You're so cute in not having a psychiatrist.
He was my 17th great grandfather
God bless!
Really??
I’m here because I found out on ancestry.com he’s my 14th great grandfather lol
@@tseringchemiyeaton3581 yes! Its so fascinating!
@@daltonmoore8124 whoa! So maybe we are related as well!
Thank you "Victor ALexiev" for sharing this post. God Bless You.
Thanks, Thao. God bless you too.
This is how the (Norman) English aristocracy have always dealt with "turbulent priests" (or anyone else for that matter).
How "Norman" was Henry, do you think?
Complex my arse, he was as inflexible as he was incorruptible. Considering the lack of moral fibre in the English court no wonder he stood out. The Cato of his time.
The nearer one gets to God, the simpler one becomes. - St. Therese of Lisieux.
👏👏👏👌👌
Very nicely put.
Sometimes what looks like the most simple can be the most complex: A simple act of 'not following others' might give rise to volumes of fundamental questions about self, society, ethics, ideas etc.
An incredible Saint🙏
His life has so much to teach us for these crazy times when aggressive atheism seeks to enslave people by Godless authority🙏
So many people are going to face such choices in the times ahead- history keeps repeating itself 🙏
Like how to torture and burn people who worship God slightly differently to you ?
@@manbearpig7359 ? No, like to what extent to comply with gov't dictates that lack legal, lawful, or moral authority.
@@teach-learn4078 Ah, but then who is the arbiter of what is legal, lawful, and moral?
@@manbearpig7359 On the first two, Nuremberg Code i.e. having to do with consent to experimentation, and the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is "a fundamental constitutive document of the United Nations and, by extension, all 193 parties of the UN Charter." The nature of "informed consent" has been clarified in case law in various countries, e.g. in Canada three relevant cases which went to the Supreme Court are referenced. To clarify, I'm talking about laws compelling people to be vaxed against their will. So yes, this s*** is illegal/against the law and unlawful/not authorized by law.
As far as whether it's moral, it's fashionable to question the existence of morality. But if we take the Buddhist notion of moral action being that which leads to long-term benefit for self and other, then the arbiter's work is easier. Using that definition to compare public health responses and public health outcomes in various countries (e.g. Japan, Sweden), we get a picture of cost/benefit ratios which says, yes the response has been largely immoral.
@@manbearpig7359 he didn't do that. He was the Chancellor ffs.
Imagine the same accusation being leveled at the Chancellor today? Same difference.
So I'm calling you out on your BS.
a man of hounour , a man of courage , a god fearing man , a honest man i go to ST THOMAS MORE church seaford ,
hes my saint the one i chose on my confirmation , last easter, he new he was RIGHT AMEN
Utopia is in many ways an ideal society - except for two issues: 1. although he allows for freedom of religion in some respects, he was unable to see that true freedom must include the freedom not to worship or believe, and 2. He was unable to imagine a world without slaves. Still, for the time, it was a remarkable vision.
honeychurchgipsy6 I think if you read Utopia, no land, as an ideal society you are reading it wrong. It is a nation with no property, no family that wages endless war with it's neighbors to build a slave empire. To me Utopia sounds more like a stalinist nighmare than a utopia. The man relating the story of Utopia is named Hythloday, literally meaning peddler of nonsense in Greek, and More ends the story with a character named Thomas More explaining why Utopia is entirely unrealistic.
Henry was asking the Pope to "Dispense with his dispensation." LOL
Elizabeth F., in wanting to reverse the dispensation, didn't Henry VIII, also, say that his marriage to Catherine of Aragon hadn't been "consummated "? He tried to make Princess Mary a "non-person" because she wasn't male.🤔🤔🤔✌✌✌✌
The same Henry VIII wrote a great document defending Holy Church, then the flesh got him.
In fact the pope liked it so much that he was labelled defender of the faith.
I'm very proud that in my paternal line (father's,father's,father,etc,etc) it ends with St. Thomas More and his father through Thomas More's son John More and his wife Anne Cresacre (whom Sir Thomas More was actually the guardian of interestingly enough). A lot of the same views survive in the family thankfully. Even a few of us can speak Latin still.
We must be related then my family has the same line to Sir Thomas via John More and Anne Cresacre.
We need someone like St. Thomas More with us today
Why? So he can torture and publicly burn people at the stake who don't believe in God the way he does?
@@manbearpig7359 Read your history. He didn't torture or burn anyone at the stake. He questioned them, but he never executed them.
@@jennywc I am a bit of a history nerd, so yes I have "read my history ". All of it, not just the parts written by Catholics.
Saying that More just questioned them but left the actual torturing and burning to his underlings is equivalent to arguing that it wasn't HItlers fault that all those Jews died.
This article would be a good start for you. spartacus-educational.com/spartacus-blogURL49.htm
It's more of a summary, presents both views and has references to the biographers works. Eg The Statesman and the Fanatic by Jasper Ridley.
So I repeat the question. In today's modern world, already divided by religion fundamentalism, why would we want another religious fanatic who would have people murdered simply because they worshipped their God differently from him ?
@@jennywc He didn't execute them no, people lower down the chain did that, but he played his part in it. I mean if you consider someone a good man who sent people to be burned alive for reading a bible in their own native tongue then more fool you. It's about bloody time you religious fanatics woke up to reality the rest of us seem to be in.
Go read a science book, please.
@@manbearpig7359
I don't get it. When did St Thomas Moore murder people?
Also, you are mistaken if you think we are divided by religious fundamentalism. We are living in the least religious times in the history of mankind. We are also living in the most secular time.
We are more divided by political disagreements than religion or religious fundamentalism.
I think he was pompous and violent. When it came to those who did'nt believe as he did. He was reponsible for torturing and burning people alive. Not sure why folks think he was all that.
Dont martyr yourself for your belief , as you are probably wrong
He's with almighty God in heaven
@Snaggle Toothed Snaggle boy what specifically do you object to ? No ones judging you, your comment says a lot about you. Lol.
Come on Snaggle. What makes you think they play a harp in the first place ? You watch too many cartoons. They sing acapella, and I'll bet pretty well at that. And I'm pretty sure iit come supernaturally. Now grab a popsicle or something.
LOL Prove it
@Some Guy your last words will not be so confident please visit vaticancatholic.com
he's not don't worry
The trial scene is one of the great ones in cinema history. And More was, without doubt, a great man of his time. Yet we mustn't forget (and it is particularly regrettable since he was such a remarkable man), that he authorized the hunting down and brutal execution of those who were involved in the dissemination of the Holy Bible in English, that the common people might be able to read it and evaluate it for themselves. Richard Baysfield, who was executed for distributing Tyndale's English language Bible, was described by More as having been, 'well and worthely burned'. Whoever we are are, whether we are of Roman Catholic faith, Protestant, Muslim, or, say, no faith, we must unequivocally condemn the killing of people for their conscience.
..and I dismiss him as he dismissed the rights of those--dickhead. I hated him all thru the film-with Henry all the way!--unpleasant stuff in there...
Without giving you the well worn rebuttal to your comments about More, and the fact that the bible in English was first commissioned by the Catholic church ( which you erroneously call the "Roman" Catholic church)... Please confirm the literacy rates of these common people of the time who so eagerly thirsted to read Tyndale's rendition?
I'l save you the bother. Less then 30%.
Gauged on how many could sign their names. Mostly males.
Significantly less women.
Therefore, the vast majority of common people didn't crave the bible in English, even given that the scriptures had been translated already and even further assuming that English was widely spoken.
Henry VIII was a blood thirsty maniac who had more than 57,000 people executed in the most barbaric way during his reign.
A travesty of justice, the classic kangaroo court. Thomas was a man of intellect, ethics and morals. This injustice demonstrates Henry’s venal ego - he was a monster and did not deserve Thomas’ support or friendship.
But do you reckon that the heretics More had tortured didn't think him also a monster? What do you reckon William Tyndale thought of Thomas More?
You see the movie version of him not the real life version
He gave William tyndale no mercy did he.
He was truly a "man for all seasons", indeed!
I WISH I COULD HAVE KILLED HIM MY SELF
@@tonycostanzo4276pitiful loser
He stood up to oppression but today in 2023 we have more support..God bkess St.Thomas❤
Thomas More WAS the oppression -- he was the head of the what was essentially the English inquisition -- sending people to their deaths for owning or simply reading books he thought to be anti-Roman Catholic. I understand that you may like the idea of murdering people of different faiths than you - but most of us see that is pretty evil.
I really admire him!
A true ENGLISHMAN!!!! WE all should try too emulate!!!
The real Englishman
How many people did Sir Thomas burn at the stake?
Just sayin...
Six during his chancellorship. It was a different time of religious upheaval which culminated in disasters like the peasants revolt on the continent. It was greatly feared something similar would happen in England, hence the harsh punishment for heresy
God bless the two friends together may they in the Kingdom praying for us 🙏.
Another brilliant film.😁❤️❤️👌👌👏👏👏
idk but he may be a 14th great grandfather
of mine
tracing back from my 4th great grandfather
judge samuel dalton john moore
or his uncle gabriel moore
can anyone help me find out
if this infact is true?
trace from sdj moore or gabriel moore
there is a samuel moore of virginia
who either was from ireland
or in possibly thomas more's line
a samuel from reading berkshire england
Yes … and in turn the nation state served its purpose as an idol for you all to worship and now that is done with, you’ve found other idols to worship. Odd how one side of the argument remains eternal while the other constantly shifts elsewhere. Wonder why that is.
St Thomas More patron saint of all lawyers
He must have been kicking himself as the flames licked higher that it never occurred to him to say "I recant my Catholicism."
Curious, a man of conscience who was quite happy to have people burned alive for a difference in religion. Odd sort of man to make a saint.
Sir Thomas Moore is my relation. So blessed to be in his line.
I just found out that he’s my 15th Great Grandfather.
Actually, I often wonder, was the creation of the Nation -State a positive and good thing.
He was a tyrant and a monster and leader of the English Inquisition and is paying for his sins now.
I understand that King John didn't actually sign the Magna Carta but consented to it by the use of the royal seal.
My parish is also called St thomas more. Great story but sad ending he was a true follower of christ
A portrait painting from 1995?
More persecuted Christians such as William Tyndale who was burnt at the stake.
Hands down my favorite movie
It was a murder disguised as an execution.
He was incredibly oppressive if you had the wrong religion you were oppressed
He burned people for reading the Bible in English. And Peter was never Bishop of Rome. Which means he died for nothing.
What is the documentary that this has been taken from please?
Man for all sesions dvd
More still presents the problem of persecuting Protestants. He had 8 burned at the stake and imposed harsh punishments on those who would distribute the Bible. I find, although he piously resisted denouncing his church, he lacks humility and kindness. A Saint? Really?
If you think of it in the context of the times its not extreme at all, religion and subsequently heresy were taken deathly serious. And given how the tables turned rapidly in the following decades and Catholics became the persecuted, you could easily say (once again in the context of the times) that those measures taken weren't enough. Looking at heresy from the perspective of a 16th c. devout Catholic, executing a handful of heretics to prevent the loss of innumerable souls to said heresy was easily justifiable.
Yes, punishment was brutal in the 16th century. But I wonder if the ordinary man didn’t view it as repugnant. I would have to study More more carefully to say he wasn’t culpable. I have never thought of him as a “Man for All Seasons.” Being a Protestant, I am unfamiliar with much of Catholic Church doctrine. Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I appreciate it very much.
So much to learn.
What about him burning people alive. Did we just forget about that?
That’s what I’d like to know. Someone like that has no business being made a saint. Burning people alive is certainly not very saintly.
Isn’t it crazy? All these religious fanatics in the comments telling us how he was such a great man, let’s no forget the people burned alive at the stake for reading a bible in their own native tongue.
As one great man once said Religion makes good people do bad things.
@@astardustparade Saints are not perfected people, The Catholic Church states this. But Saint Thomas More is now a saint in heaven.
However he burned Protestants at the stake.
He really was a hypocrite
He very well may have ordered such terrible deeds but one would need more reliable reporters than the charlatans that cosied up to Henry VIII after his break with More. There was a Bloody Henry, a Bloody Mary and a Bloody Elizabeth but Anglo-Tudor history records only a "Bloody Mary". You will forgive us here in Ireland if we take a slightly jaundiced view.
He really never give John tindale any mercy.
He ensured the extremely painful execution of others for religious consciousness (as simple as owning a bible in the 'incorrect' language) and was himself eventually executed for his religious feelings. The king spared him a painful death though.
I believe the King was privately ashamed. He respected More's sound judgement and moral virtue which he could not himself emulate. The rest is history.
History we need to share with our children.
St Thomas Pray For Us!
Henry VIII was a butcher.
In a point of law More was correct ... pertaining to the so called authority of the Church (Bride of Christ) being bestowed upon on a man he is mistaken... Christ Himself is the Head of the Body of Christ not a pope nor any other human being...
Christ is indeed the head of the mystical body and he delegated authority to Peter
There is only One head (leader) of the Body. The Lord Jesus Himself. The Catholic Church is sadly a Christianized apostate Judaism. The worship of Mary, the need for a priesthood, the burning of incense. Holy water. Alters. Not to mention the praying to "saints".. and in years past the penalty of death to those who dared own or translate the Word into their own language... All true believers in Jesus Christ are ambassadors. Do unbelievers enter the Kingdom? The Pope says they do. False teachings, false hopes for those that are perishing...
@@71superbee3 lol. youve got it all wrong
@@captasus687 You go out of your way to say you've got it all wrong, but then you don't explain how he's wrong!!
@@71superbee3 Well said sir .
He tortured and burned people with different beliefs. It makes him human with flaws--not a saint.
I just found out I am related to Sir Thomas More! So exciting to know I am related to such an amazing being.
St. Thomas More was a great man indeed.
May the Lord be with you that you may follow him as well as St. Thomas More did.
You're a daughter of God too :)
So what? I’m descended from King Henry II of England and Robert the Bruce.
@@astardustparade that’s amazing! I never knew I was related to someone so great as well. Exciting news.
nevermind
it may be a john moore
from reading berkshire england
my 10th great grandfather??
www.wikitree.com/wiki/Moore-2884
the 5th great grandfather? of
edward william kulm lee? moore
the 6th great grandfather? of judge
samuel dalton john moore
here is a better link for john samuel moore
ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LB9N-LCG/captain-john-samuel-moore-1584-1676
yes right it is not just john moore
or just samuel moore
but a john samuel moore
I am here as I just found out Sir Thomas is my 15x great grandfather thru Anne Irene More his great granddaughter born 1553. I knew who he was as soon as I saw his name with the title Lord High Chancellor of England. Great man even though I am Protestant...lol
My 12 great grampa. Brave Man! Patron Saint of Judges, Lawyers and Politicians. RIP Brave grandfather!
I truly have no idea why Alison Weir was in this documentary. She is not a historian and virulently anti-Catholic. She has a very odd obsession with the blood thirsty Tudor dynasty.
When a church mingles with politics it turns to vomit,
If scriptures are hidden or misinterpreted, darkness sweeps in.
Excellent.
actually i cant hear some words with british accent clearly so it would be better if it has subtitle too..
All those people he had burnt- for thinking free- gee, that's tough...
Leo played #2 in The Prisoner and Moore's issue is obviously Central to #6 right to be a free man. My life is my own. I resigned, it is a matter of conscience.
I went to st Thomas more Chelsea had a great picture of st Thomas in the entrance.
He was also a man who tortured and put to death people who wanted to have the Bible in English.
Guys Thomas more was a Bernie supporter idk I’m second guessing my thoughts on him
i think that there was an error at approx 16:07 where the text states that the Magna Carta Was "signed" by King John in 1215. I believe that was an error, my understanding was that King John couldn't write, and he affixed his seal to the document. (Someone, please correct me if I am wrong)
It's the same as signing when an employee today signs any document on behalf of their employer.
the Truth stands alone-always and forever ✝️
nice movie of the lifr of saint thomas more thank you arte
“...an act of parliament which is directly repugnant to the law of god and his holy church, the supreme government of which no temporal person may, by any law, presume to take upon him.” A statement made sincerely and with conviction. I admire Sir Thomas for his courage in choosing death over compromising his principles. However, I strongly disagree with this quote as it is a statement against the separation of church and state. The state law that convicted him was certainly unjust but not because it went against god’s law. In reality, no one knows a thing about so-called god’s law and those who think they do have no rightful power of enforcement over anyone but themselves.
Yes we all do..as a lawyer I can tell you that it still exists to some extent in the legal area known as chancery and is superior to the common law.
Christ never gave that title to the Pope.
Matthew 16:17-19
“16:17 And Jesus answering said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
16:18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
16:19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”
Yes he did and now the English Church will pay for it's disobedience.
@@dwightschrute900 churches are a waste of time, only Christ's teachings are worthwhile. Keep your churches and your satanic popes.
Yes, but the oath and MC says the English Church, not the Roman Church. An Engineers view, yes I am Anglian and sadden by the liberalizing of the Church lately. It is degrading.
Rich Ryan have you seen that Bishop in sweden who wants Christian iconography taken down in the churches and parts of the church used as a mosque, with directions towards mecca. I'm Irish and even though I don't consider myself Catholic I concur with what you're saying. Where's the Templars when you need them.
No man has Divine authority to create a church and then bind others to it.
Not even Peter? He was given authority from Christ.
Rich R. That’s the logical consequence of schism and heresy.
are you serious? you cant read that by your eyes of this time..it was written 800 years ago, in those days there was only one Church..it wasnt called roman because there wasnt need to do so since it is THE ONLY Church...after all those reformations people started to call it roman
I have wondered if it really was legal then and today, that King Henry VIII created 'The Church of England'?
Yes it was 100% legal but also 100% immoral.
So while the CofE is legal it is fundamentally spiritually flawed.
Uh, don't want to put a spanner in the love-in of TM here, but what about all the bad press? What about all the torture he was (reputed) to be more than happy to take part in, what about they way he (reputedly) treated his family? And before the reputeds are picked upon, remember, historical reports are interpreted, largely dependent on personal agenda.
I liked this documentary ! But I wouldn’t mind seeing one that shines some light on those rumors(and fact I know of the torture but nothing about his family life)
He is a Catholic Saint. Basta.
The thing that I struggle with is that Islam came with a superior way to govern way before all of this ,
To quote on this particular matter ,
Ziyyad ibn Abihi ( governer of busra - Iraq ) at Ommayad caliphate said :
“ Hatred towards myself I do not punish, but only crime. “
And bigger character in Islam Omar bin Al khattab the second caliphate , once in office so to speak met a guy and confessed that he despised him to his face , the man simply replied “ it’s women that cry over such pitty things “ and Omar didn’t hold grudge against him or misused his power towards him .
Nor he did towards any other , Omar is a beacon for justice .
They all were taught in the school of the prophet peace and blessings be upon him
Whom he himself when once in battle ordering men to straighten the line ,
One man wouldn’t listen so the prophet would straighten him with a stick , the man told the prophet that ( you injured me )
So at that time before battle , the prophet , supreme leader , would show his stomach and say ( hit me back as I hit you ) .
The prophet raised free men ,
Even I would argue Islam called earlier than all to free slaves by actions and deeds , dignified them , and good treatment of women .
Im african ametican my maiden name is moore
I wonder if he's my 14 great grandaddy
IMAGINE HIM AS PRESIDENT OF THE USA! WHAT WORLD WOULD WE BE LIVING IN??
If Thomas More was President of USA now he’d have anyone that didn’t abide by the Catholic religion burnt at the stake for heresy. He was not the saintly character depicted in the film, but he was a man of his times. Brilliant film nonetheless !
Let’s not forget about the countless people who were burned alive at the stake in his name. I admire his resilience in the face of such a test against his conscious, whilst knowing that his life is ultimately the price he would pay. I’m not sure whether I can honestly say that I would have been as resolute, but it is worth noting that most people are not anywhere near as pious or righteous in their beliefs of either religion, or the monarchy. Although, I am not inclined to view him as an “English hero”
Haha he's my school section in grade 10
amogus
I am a harris but my mother's maiden name
is moore
Maybe you are related to Roger or Demi.
@@jamesparson who are Roger and Demi?
my moore line on my mom's side is not thomas more I traced it back not too long ago but it is england, moore place benenden or someting kent england
Standing up and even dying for what you believe does not make you a Saint.
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