I like hiding in my bedroom and making crappy beats. I couldn't imagine being in this industry for real the stress would kill me. Mad respect to ya'll who do.
Everybody's trying to sell something. Including this guy. He probably has something worth buying, depending on your circumstances, but what is the cost?
I think this is a common problem with tutorials, advice videos etc. on any topic. I've been hobbyist programmer for past 15 years and as my skills on that front have gotten better I've noticed that most programming tutorials on youtube are total bs. which teach very bad habits and techiques. There is too much content, most of which is really bad. What makes it worse is that beginners on any topic usually don't know how to discern good tutorials from awful ones.
Much of it is intentionally bad (or intentionally misleading) in order to drive engagement, and (the more insidious one) to drive revenue through whatever the creator is shilling (a plugin, a paid course, etc). This is why, only 30 seconds in, I have to disagree with the opening statement of this video or at least make an addendum: #3 THAT THEY ARE NOT SHILLING ANYTHING.
@@logitchy There are loads, but it depends what you want to learn: if programming, what language? Are you a FE guy or a BE guy, or a systems integration guy, or a devops guy, or a support guy, or a networks guy .. there's room for everybody who has the inclination, capacity and discipline to learn by watching but crucially also, to learn by doing. Just start searching, start watching, and read the comments, look at other videos etc.
Honestly, 80% of the tutorials or advice I follow, come from producers whose tracks I listen to (just to name one who all know, Virtual Riot). At the same time, tutorials must be learned, I don't know if you know what I mean: you don't have to memorize what the producer who is giving you advice is doing, but you have to understand what he is doing and then implement it in your style, for example, there they are techniques, "rules" or approaches that work for some genres, but not for others (to put it simply, a Lo-Fi track does not follow the same "logic" as a Dubstep track). I don't know if I explained myself well (I know my English isn't the best).
The way i go about putting it out there is only releasing what i think isnt ready to youtube and then when i feel like my music is ready to really be put out there ill distribute it to spotify and apple music
The first one is just a bulshit take 💀 When they say to "put things out there", they mean to get feedback, not to instantly get famous. The idea is that if you get feedback earlier, you can quickly advance as a producer, becoming better as you go on. And then you can look at those previous tracks to see how far you've come, usually in places where you're in self-doubt (such as a beat-block).
The problem with finding information on Internet, on a forum, on videos (or asking an AI which many times hallucinates) is that you already need to know the answer or at least have the critical sense to discard the wrong or bad info...
People always say Martin Garrix is an outlier in the way that he went straight to the top. But what people see to forget is that he had been producing almost ten years when he released Animals at 17. He says what inspired him to start was Tiësto performing at the 2004 Olympics. Animals was released in 2014. We all love his music now, it just takes time.
0:20 Those are some valid points and I realized that myself a couple of years ago. I compose epic orchestral music, stuff like Two Steps From Hell, Hans Zimmer etc... (atleast I try to, lol) I've seen many many videos that were supposed to teach you how to do realistic tracks. It's always stuff like ''How to do realistic Mock-up'', or ''How to achieve realism'' and I tell you, I turn off 99% of those videos the second I hear their ''realism''. It saves me a lot of time;)
Don't sign to labels. It might be right for some people, but if you want to keep all the rights and royalties to your music, you can promote your own stuff far more effectively and personally than if you went to a label. I know a few people who got screwed over by labels. Don't make the same mistake!
see this is honestly why I hate trying to learn how to use a DAW. "Beginner" tutorials are loaded with jargon, assume I own stacks of equipment and software, they blast through settings without explaining them. It's trash.
I don't necessarily agree with this. personally I learned a lot from 10 minute youtube videos. a million of them, but I did, and I don't regret it. the chaotic experience actually entangled with the way I create, and after years it guided me towards discovering music by myself. and now when I create, I don't think similarly to any "master", but also I'm not clueless (you can check my music on my channel) either. I'd use 10 20 different ideas and each would be coming from a different inspirator that I don't even remember. it's not necessarily a "oh, Idk what this is, I'm just copying a youtube tutorial" anymore. after a while I developed my own ears. I could use a compressor in a certain way and get what I want, without even knowing I actually did that. years later I went through "courses" and 80% of what they were telling me, I was already doing. hell, even right now when I get a film project to compose for, I do check youtube for 4 minute 5 minute videos about random music things just to get a new random approach to try as my starting point and it helps.
Best advice is stop music prod and get a job/higher education and make stable healthy future. I took this advice at the right time and now I have more time to relax and enjoy with my loved ones.
The don't release your music advice, is the worst I ever heard. I mix FOH at everything local that has no budget, like charities, town fests, fairs, things like that. Where you cant hire a "professional" who takes thousands of euros for a day, but still have hundreds or thousands of guests and many bands playing live. And often I also have to help selecting the bands. Usually there are like 50 requests for the small audience gigs (like two slots), and hundreds for the big audience (4 to 10 slots). And if I get that many inquiries from new bands, I have to see what they bring. Do they have musical quality, would it be fitting, etc. So you either send some mp3s to me (but usually that doesn't cut if), or you better have a Spotify (because if there are 50 bands, at lest 10 of them will have some music out, be the quality better of worse). If you finally get a record deal, you will delete all of your old stuff any way and rerelease everything that they feel fitting. Happens with every small musician. But if you want to play live, and don't know the guys at the venues, it increases your chances dramatically. I really don't find any reason, why you should not release.
Started trying this shit 10 years ago , thought I had come far then heard the non linear eq making phase changes made everything sound like it was underwater. Anyway atleast I know when and how to use it now.
He first said they had over 800 students over the 12 years they been working on, but later on he says they have over 100 students a month so then is thousands a year... Somethinh seems odd...
Students are different than Applicants… 800 students in 12 years… 100 applicants a week… 1000s of applicants a year… we only take a small % of applicants to become students
I have to agree and disagree. I´m producing Music since 1998, and my sound never improved much. But with youtube and many many videos, my music evolved into some pretty good sounding shit. I never had a problem with chord progressions, or ideas and how to bring them in the program. My main problem was frequency masking, dull or muddy sound. General mixing and eq and mastering techniques. My sound was never defined, never punchy. And with the help of many youtube videos, i got it. BUT, for beginners its not a good idea to start with videos on youtube. Most of them are not going deep enough. So if you have no clue what your plugins are doing and how to use them, you wont learn a thing. And one important thing that most beginners forget, are good speakers for the production. You cant produce good sounding tracks with your 20 dollar PC Speakers. Its also not needed to spend 500 bucks on speakers. Every good company has entry level speakers (for example, Edifier MR4), go for them! Buy speakers, buy a DAW, maybe a MIDI Keyboard and go. Most DAW´s come with starter Plugins like EQ´s, Compressors, Delay, Reeverb, Synth, Samples for Kicks and more... Get the basics right and start your career.
Was watching Riordan’s vlog the other day and he claims to have been producing for only a short time. Maybe he’s an outlier vs John Summit who has put years of work into his craft. We went from his first release Girl in 2017 to now a full length album in 2024 with songs like Shiver and Go back. Song structure, arrangement and mixing, you can see the progression in 7 years.
This video is brilliant, I agree so much, been composing for more than 10 years, playing the piano and guitar before as a kid, yet I only started composing stuff I am really proud of the last 2 years, and released very little music publicly, yet still I can spend a year on one tune perfecting each bit and listening to a bar on repeat, the biggest problem for me is that there is so much composers that suck ass, and it is really hard to gain that trust for someone new, also another thing I really do not like is they often want soundcloud links, and I want them to listen to good bitrate... I wish I knew how to find labels and how to introduce yourself, sadly sending a 320 kbps mp3 would get you ignored, I am working on huge projects for like 3 years almost daily, no job, yet I am nervous about me getting rejected Basically to sum up - I am confident in my music yet I dont know where to send my it :/
Yeah!! I'm so lit of some good zooms and this video was perfect!!! I finally turned a corner and I've been burying haters on the regular with my super charged bass weapons. You're the best!!🎉
I have literally seen all of your videos like 3 times now on repeat and I just want to say that I have learned so much valuable information and even now starting to practice it. Thanks for all you do Justin and keep uploading more videos ❤
I think all ptoducer should be do other things without music production like real life. Just learn more and do something with other hobbies or job. Not only producers, i mean standard person need read books, meet friends in real life and go to GYM. Also learn other stuff
Stuck with your music career? Need PERSONALIZED help and development? Apply to our program… www.cosmicacademy.com
I like hiding in my bedroom and making crappy beats. I couldn't imagine being in this industry for real the stress would kill me. Mad respect to ya'll who do.
Me too. It's a hobby for me.
ahhh
@@BillyTheKidsGhost ❤
Relatable. I'm not even interested in business. I'd need someone to do that for me
Whatever you do, don't put it out there... without good marketing.
I disagree. Someone can be a great teacher, but not be a great producer. Teaching people is a skill on its own.
thats why you need the other criteria
i started releasing music in 2021 and heard all those tracks had no bass kkkk. music is a journey of mistakes
i can relate xD
mine is complete opposite, it had too much bass and ruined everything XD
"...And Justice For All" moment
I am actively making music from 2009
For like the first year I always had my tracks too quiet lol
Everybody's trying to sell something. Including this guy. He probably has something worth buying, depending on your circumstances, but what is the cost?
I noticed there's a lot of contradictions on youtube. One person will say "do this" and another will say "you shouldn't do it that way".
noticed that too.. i guess we just gotta find out what works best for us, not just in music but in othwr things in life
i think you should put music out there, and get feedback and responses from people, its probably the most useful thing ive done
If you have to tell people to release music 😂
Who and where are you supposed to get good feedback from. Most people either just say "fire" or "trash"
@@x4Kai lol im dead , so fucking true and frustrating
@@x4Kai do you not have friends! it's not hard to ask them!
but you need professionals to give you feedback, not wannabes...
I think this is a common problem with tutorials, advice videos etc. on any topic.
I've been hobbyist programmer for past 15 years and as my skills on that front have gotten better I've noticed that most programming tutorials on youtube are total bs. which teach very bad habits and techiques.
There is too much content, most of which is really bad. What makes it worse is that beginners on any topic usually don't know how to discern good tutorials from awful ones.
Much of it is intentionally bad (or intentionally misleading) in order to drive engagement, and (the more insidious one) to drive revenue through whatever the creator is shilling (a plugin, a paid course, etc).
This is why, only 30 seconds in, I have to disagree with the opening statement of this video or at least make an addendum: #3 THAT THEY ARE NOT SHILLING ANYTHING.
Most programming tutorials on UA-cam are total BS? That itself is nonsense.
im trying to get into programming. are there any youtube tutorials/series that you think are good?
@@logitchy There are loads, but it depends what you want to learn: if programming, what language? Are you a FE guy or a BE guy, or a systems integration guy, or a devops guy, or a support guy, or a networks guy .. there's room for everybody who has the inclination, capacity and discipline to learn by watching but crucially also, to learn by doing. Just start searching, start watching, and read the comments, look at other videos etc.
Honestly, 80% of the tutorials or advice I follow, come from producers whose tracks I listen to (just to name one who all know, Virtual Riot). At the same time, tutorials must be learned, I don't know if you know what I mean: you don't have to memorize what the producer who is giving you advice is doing, but you have to understand what he is doing and then implement it in your style, for example, there they are techniques, "rules" or approaches that work for some genres, but not for others (to put it simply, a Lo-Fi track does not follow the same "logic" as a Dubstep track).
I don't know if I explained myself well (I know my English isn't the best).
Take advices from people you want to become and often times the best advice is not what they say but what they do.
3 years, 63 finished tracks, still not released....
Start release only after 500 tracks.
Those previous 🐕 💩 for sure
no doubt.
If after 63 tracks you haven’t written one you want to release. Try 64 or maybe 164. Keep writing I hope to hear it one day
The way i go about putting it out there is only releasing what i think isnt ready to youtube and then when i feel like my music is ready to really be put out there ill distribute it to spotify and apple music
The first one is just a bulshit take 💀
When they say to "put things out there", they mean to get feedback, not to instantly get famous.
The idea is that if you get feedback earlier, you can quickly advance as a producer, becoming better as you go on.
And then you can look at those previous tracks to see how far you've come, usually in places where you're in self-doubt (such as a beat-block).
but you need feedback from the right people, professionals... not wannabes
The problem with finding information on Internet, on a forum, on videos (or asking an AI which many times hallucinates) is that you already need to know the answer or at least have the critical sense to discard the wrong or bad info...
People always say Martin Garrix is an outlier in the way that he went straight to the top. But what people see to forget is that he had been producing almost ten years when he released Animals at 17. He says what inspired him to start was Tiësto performing at the 2004 Olympics. Animals was released in 2014. We all love his music now, it just takes time.
0:20 Those are some valid points and I realized that myself a couple of years ago. I compose epic orchestral music, stuff like Two Steps From Hell, Hans Zimmer etc... (atleast I try to, lol) I've seen many many videos that were supposed to teach you how to do realistic tracks. It's always stuff like ''How to do realistic Mock-up'', or ''How to achieve realism'' and I tell you, I turn off 99% of those videos the second I hear their ''realism''. It saves me a lot of time;)
Don't sign to labels. It might be right for some people, but if you want to keep all the rights and royalties to your music, you can promote your own stuff far more effectively and personally than if you went to a label. I know a few people who got screwed over by labels. Don't make the same mistake!
see this is honestly why I hate trying to learn how to use a DAW. "Beginner" tutorials are loaded with jargon, assume I own stacks of equipment and software, they blast through settings without explaining them. It's trash.
I don't necessarily agree with this.
personally I learned a lot from 10 minute youtube videos. a million of them, but I did, and I don't regret it. the chaotic experience actually entangled with the way I create, and after years it guided me towards discovering music by myself. and now when I create, I don't think similarly to any "master", but also I'm not clueless (you can check my music on my channel) either. I'd use 10 20 different ideas and each would be coming from a different inspirator that I don't even remember. it's not necessarily a "oh, Idk what this is, I'm just copying a youtube tutorial" anymore.
after a while I developed my own ears. I could use a compressor in a certain way and get what I want, without even knowing I actually did that. years later I went through "courses" and 80% of what they were telling me, I was already doing.
hell, even right now when I get a film project to compose for, I do check youtube for 4 minute 5 minute videos about random music things just to get a new random approach to try as my starting point and it helps.
Best advice is stop music prod and get a job/higher education and make stable healthy future.
I took this advice at the right time and now I have more time to relax and enjoy with my loved ones.
what if sumone jus tryin make it big but jus as a hobby. ian all abt the money lmao
I agree. I hate my older stuff
The don't release your music advice, is the worst I ever heard.
I mix FOH at everything local that has no budget, like charities, town fests, fairs, things like that. Where you cant hire a "professional" who takes thousands of euros for a day, but still have hundreds or thousands of guests and many bands playing live. And often I also have to help selecting the bands. Usually there are like 50 requests for the small audience gigs (like two slots), and hundreds for the big audience (4 to 10 slots). And if I get that many inquiries from new bands, I have to see what they bring. Do they have musical quality, would it be fitting, etc. So you either send some mp3s to me (but usually that doesn't cut if), or you better have a Spotify (because if there are 50 bands, at lest 10 of them will have some music out, be the quality better of worse). If you finally get a record deal, you will delete all of your old stuff any way and rerelease everything that they feel fitting. Happens with every small musician. But if you want to play live, and don't know the guys at the venues, it increases your chances dramatically.
I really don't find any reason, why you should not release.
Started trying this shit 10 years ago , thought I had come far then heard the non linear eq making phase changes made everything sound like it was underwater. Anyway atleast I know when and how to use it now.
He first said they had over 800 students over the 12 years they been working on, but later on he says they have over 100 students a month so then is thousands a year... Somethinh seems odd...
Students are different than Applicants… 800 students in 12 years… 100 applicants a week… 1000s of applicants a year… we only take a small % of applicants to become students
"JUST PUT IT OUT THERE"
Well.. May or may not be guilty of that one..
Best piece of advice i got?: BE AWARE OF BAD ADVICE!!! 😂
I have to agree and disagree. I´m producing Music since 1998, and my sound never improved much. But with youtube and many many videos, my music evolved into some pretty good sounding shit. I never had a problem with chord progressions, or ideas and how to bring them in the program. My main problem was frequency masking, dull or muddy sound. General mixing and eq and mastering techniques. My sound was never defined, never punchy. And with the help of many youtube videos, i got it.
BUT, for beginners its not a good idea to start with videos on youtube. Most of them are not going deep enough. So if you have no clue what your plugins are doing and how to use them, you wont learn a thing.
And one important thing that most beginners forget, are good speakers for the production. You cant produce good sounding tracks with your 20 dollar PC Speakers. Its also not needed to spend 500 bucks on speakers. Every good company has entry level speakers (for example, Edifier MR4), go for them!
Buy speakers, buy a DAW, maybe a MIDI Keyboard and go. Most DAW´s come with starter Plugins like EQ´s, Compressors, Delay, Reeverb, Synth, Samples for Kicks and more... Get the basics right and start your career.
Was watching Riordan’s vlog the other day and he claims to have been producing for only a short time. Maybe he’s an outlier vs John Summit who has put years of work into his craft. We went from his first release Girl in 2017 to now a full length album in 2024 with songs like Shiver and Go back. Song structure, arrangement and mixing, you can see the progression in 7 years.
Young producer here and Im hella confused of how this all works...i just wanna start a type beat channel and post my beats and earn from yt as a side
This video is brilliant, I agree so much, been composing for more than 10 years, playing the piano and guitar before as a kid, yet I only started composing stuff I am really proud of the last 2 years, and released very little music publicly, yet still I can spend a year on one tune perfecting each bit and listening to a bar on repeat, the biggest problem for me is that there is so much composers that suck ass, and it is really hard to gain that trust for someone new, also another thing I really do not like is they often want soundcloud links, and I want them to listen to good bitrate... I wish I knew how to find labels and how to introduce yourself, sadly sending a 320 kbps mp3 would get you ignored, I am working on huge projects for like 3 years almost daily, no job, yet I am nervous about me getting rejected
Basically to sum up - I am confident in my music yet I dont know where to send my it :/
would you give the same advice for a guitar player or a band?
Yeah!! I'm so lit of some good zooms and this video was perfect!!!
I finally turned a corner and I've been burying haters on the regular with my super charged bass weapons.
You're the best!!🎉
I have literally seen all of your videos like 3 times now on repeat and I just want to say that I have learned so much valuable information and even now starting to practice it. Thanks for all you do Justin and keep uploading more videos ❤
you just made my day, thank you :)
Hello I'm starting out and most of my music was pretty much good when doing it and then once time passed it's kinda sucks
Did He just edited a part twice in the beginning
I think all ptoducer should be do other things without music production like real life. Just learn more and do something with other hobbies or job. Not only producers, i mean standard person need read books, meet friends in real life and go to GYM. Also learn other stuff
I love the honesty on this channel. keep it up chief
best advice i got as a producer is to take everyones elses advice with a grain of salt because it may or may not benefit you
but for hobbyist like me somehow to watch all is good tbh...
Technically... you haven't done what I want to do :P
But I can tell you're credible through other means. So don't worry. 💛
I hate the "just put it out" tip. Why flood everybodies space with crap? You'll know when other people will want to hear your work.
yessssss!!!! agreed with everything in this video
Spot on
Really good advice, appreciate it
Solid advice 👏🏾
Such a great video that a lot of people needed to hear
❤ ❤ ❤
I don’t usually listen to speech-vids, but you talkin facts💯
ONE OF THE BIGGEST GRIPE I HAVE WITH UA-cam IS THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY - "NO QUALITY cCONTROL:.....😎
ElectricEddie